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  • What is Executive Order #14067?

    From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 3 15:15:18 2023
    This is a United States issue, so don't bother asking a Canadian.

    Executive Order 14067

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 4 22:01:55 2023
    On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 3:15:21 PM UTC-8, paulpo...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

    ~ This is a United States issue, so don't bother asking a Canadian.

    Executive Order 14067


    Not so fast, Paul. For all you know, Blabbermouth may have been studying Executive Order 14067 for 30 years.

    In fact, that's a near certainty.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Wed Jan 4 22:44:27 2023
    On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 10:01:59 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 3:15:21 PM UTC-8, paulpo...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

    ~ This is a United States issue, so don't bother asking a Canadian.

    Executive Order 14067


    Not so fast, Paul. For all you know, Blabbermouth may have been studying Executive Order 14067 for 30 years.

    In fact, that's a near certainty.

    No, it doesn't ring a bell, but I could read it and then explain it to him. Or maybe I'd just have to look up the subject matter to refresh my memory. I won't do any of that because he made it clear he did not want the help of a Canadian, which would
    presumably include even someone of my caliber.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Thu Jan 5 05:58:24 2023
    On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 10:44:30 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 10:01:59 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 3:15:21 PM UTC-8, paulpo...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

    ~ This is a United States issue, so don't bother asking a Canadian.

    Executive Order 14067



    Not so fast, Paul. For all you know, Blabbermouth may have been studying Executive Order 14067 for 30 years.


    In fact, that's a near certainty.

    ~ No, it doesn't ring a bell, but I could read it and then explain it to him. Or maybe I'd just have to look up the subject matter to refresh my memory. I won't do any of that because he made it clear he did not want the help of a Canadian, which would
    presumably include even someone of my caliber.


    Consider investing more energy in growing up. Better late than never.

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to paulpo...@sbcglobal.net on Fri Jan 6 19:27:15 2023
    On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 6:15:21 PM UTC-5, paulpo...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
    This is a United States issue, so don't bother asking a Canadian.

    Executive Order 14067

    Killing all of the Jedi?

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Sat Jan 7 08:00:25 2023
    On 1/3/2023 5:15 PM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    This is a United States issue, so don't bother asking a Canadian.

    Executive Order 14067


    Lots of possible things to say "what" it is ... depends on your source
    of information. If you decide on any specific line of thought, you can
    make it "what" you want it to be. Like most things government, what
    really matters is "who" gets to decide "what" it means.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to da pickle on Sat Jan 7 07:27:57 2023
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 6:00:31 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 1/3/2023 5:15 PM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    This is a United States issue, so don't bother asking a Canadian.

    Executive Order 14067

    Lots of possible things to say "what" it is ... depends on your source
    of information. If you decide on any specific line of thought, you can
    make it "what" you want it to be. Like most things government, what
    really matters is "who" gets to decide "what" it means.

    ^^ absolutely useless lawyer

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 7 10:19:58 2023
    ~ On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 7:28:02 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    ~ ^^ absolutely useless lawyer


    You finally admitted it. Don't you feel better now?

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Sat Jan 7 11:18:48 2023
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:20:02 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 7:28:02 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    ~ ^^ absolutely useless lawyer


    You finally admitted it. Don't you feel better now?

    I have admitted for decades that pickle and his standard "everything means nothing therefore nothing means anything" copout makes him look stupid. That's not what people pay lawyers $500/hr to hear.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to risky biz on Sun Jan 8 07:19:03 2023
    On 1/7/2023 12:19 PM, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 7:28:02 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    ~ ^^ absolutely useless lawyer


    You finally admitted it. Don't you feel better now?

    Funny, Blab actually believes that everything he believes is everything
    there is to believe and nothing anyone else believes is anything ...
    most fanatics are convinced that their truth is the truth ... so many
    side to any discussion, but only the fanatics have the one and only true
    side. That he says what he says is the truth does not make it the truth
    ... other than the truth is that he said it.

    It is obvious that he does not have any useful thing to say at all about Executive Order #14067.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Jan 9 11:51:31 2023
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 11:18:52 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:20:02 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 7:28:02 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:


    ~ ^^ absolutely useless lawyer



    You finally admitted it. Don't you feel better now?

    ~ I have admitted for decades that pickle and his standard "everything means nothing therefore nothing means anything" copout makes him look stupid. That's not what people pay lawyers $500/hr to hear.


    Blabbermouth, 12/30/22: 'I have a Juris Doctor from a common law jurisdiction and I have been studying Canadian and US comparative law for over 30 years.
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/eiSUduTpwPc/m/YxZm1FcWCwAJ


    At $500 an hour? LOLOLOLOL

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to paulpo...@sbcglobal.net on Mon Jan 9 12:09:03 2023
    On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 6:15:21 PM UTC-5, paulpo...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
    This is a United States issue, so don't bother asking a Canadian.

    Executive Order 14067

    What do you think it says? I have read stuff about it, and it just looks like the administration is looking ahead.

    Did you fall for these falsehoods?

    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/sep/08/tiktok-posts/executive-order-14067-does-not-allow-federal-gover/
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/executive-order-14067-biden-bucks/

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jan 9 12:33:58 2023
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 11:51:35 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 11:18:52 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:20:02 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 7:28:02 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:


    ~ ^^ absolutely useless lawyer



    You finally admitted it. Don't you feel better now?
    ~ I have admitted for decades that pickle and his standard "everything means nothing therefore nothing means anything" copout makes him look stupid. That's not what people pay lawyers $500/hr to hear.


    Blabbermouth, 12/30/22: 'I have a Juris Doctor from a common law jurisdiction and I have been studying Canadian and US comparative law for over 30 years.
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/eiSUduTpwPc/m/YxZm1FcWCwAJ


    At $500 an hour? LOLOLOLOL

    Can't you read? I was referring to pickle. I really don't know what lawyers in Louisiana who were around before the dinosaurs charge per hour. I just picked what I thought was a reasonable round number. The exact amount was not important. Of course, the
    central point flew right over your head.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jan 9 15:05:52 2023
    On 1/9/2023 1:51 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 11:18:52 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:20:02 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 7:28:02 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:


    ~ ^^ absolutely useless lawyer



    You finally admitted it. Don't you feel better now?

    ~ I have admitted for decades that pickle and his standard "everything means nothing therefore nothing means anything" copout makes him look stupid. That's not what people pay lawyers $500/hr to hear.


    Blabbermouth, 12/30/22: 'I have a Juris Doctor from a common law jurisdiction and I have been studying Canadian and US comparative law for over 30 years.
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/eiSUduTpwPc/m/YxZm1FcWCwAJ


    At $500 an hour? LOLOLOLOL

    Blab is unlikely to have attended a good law school, if he attended one
    at all. He seems to actually believe he has "the" answer to a legal
    question, no matter what the question might be. If he had read the
    book, or even saw the movie, he would know there are no answers ... only results. ONE L ... "Contracts" is the initial fail out course.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Jan 9 16:24:49 2023
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 12:34:02 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 11:51:35 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 11:18:52 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:20:02 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 7:28:02 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:


    ~ ^^ absolutely useless lawyer



    You finally admitted it. Don't you feel better now?
    ~ I have admitted for decades that pickle and his standard "everything means nothing therefore nothing means anything" copout makes him look stupid. That's not what people pay lawyers $500/hr to hear.


    Blabbermouth, 12/30/22: 'I have a Juris Doctor from a common law jurisdiction and I have been studying Canadian and US comparative law for over 30 years.
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/eiSUduTpwPc/m/YxZm1FcWCwAJ


    At $500 an hour? LOLOLOLOL
    Can't you read? I was referring to pickle. I really don't know what lawyers in Louisiana who were around before the dinosaurs charge per hour. I just picked what I thought was a reasonable round number. The exact amount was not important. Of course,
    the central point flew right over your head.
    .

    I had to pay twice that for our Trust.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to da pickle on Mon Jan 9 17:22:17 2023
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 1:05:58 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 1/9/2023 1:51 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 11:18:52 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:20:02 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 7:28:02 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:


    ~ ^^ absolutely useless lawyer



    You finally admitted it. Don't you feel better now?

    ~ I have admitted for decades that pickle and his standard "everything means nothing therefore nothing means anything" copout makes him look stupid. That's not what people pay lawyers $500/hr to hear.


    Blabbermouth, 12/30/22: 'I have a Juris Doctor from a common law jurisdiction and I have been studying Canadian and US comparative law for over 30 years.
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/eiSUduTpwPc/m/YxZm1FcWCwAJ


    At $500 an hour? LOLOLOLOL


    ~ Blab is unlikely to have attended a good law school, if he attended one
    at all. He seems to actually believe he has "the" answer to a legal question, no matter what the question might be. If he had read the
    book, or even saw the movie, he would know there are no answers ... only results. ONE L ... "Contracts" is the initial fail out course.


    What? Didn't he attend a very, very selective law school that is far better than American law schools and finish near the top of his class? When I asked him to name the law school he shit the bed and pleaded that no one reveal it to me if he let it slip
    in the past.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Tue Jan 10 01:41:08 2023
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 12:09:07 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    What do you think it says? I have read stuff about it, and it just looks like the administration is looking ahead.

    Did you fall for these falsehoods?

    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/sep/08/tiktok-posts/executive-order-14067-does-not-allow-federal-gover/
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/executive-order-14067-biden-bucks/


    Well that settles it. If Politifact and Snopes says it's false, then it's true. Count on it. And Tim Norfolk thinks it's false, that's icing on the cake.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to da pickle on Tue Jan 10 03:42:49 2023
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 1:05:58 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 1/9/2023 1:51 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 11:18:52 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:20:02 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 7:28:02 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:


    ~ ^^ absolutely useless lawyer



    You finally admitted it. Don't you feel better now?

    ~ I have admitted for decades that pickle and his standard "everything means nothing therefore nothing means anything" copout makes him look stupid. That's not what people pay lawyers $500/hr to hear.


    Blabbermouth, 12/30/22: 'I have a Juris Doctor from a common law jurisdiction and I have been studying Canadian and US comparative law for over 30 years.
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/eiSUduTpwPc/m/YxZm1FcWCwAJ


    At $500 an hour? LOLOLOLOL
    Blab is unlikely to have attended a good law school, if he attended one
    at all. He seems to actually believe he has "the" answer to a legal
    question, no matter what the question might be. If he had read the
    book, or even saw the movie, he would know there are no answers ... only results. ONE L ... "Contracts" is the initial fail out course.

    Please don't put words in my mouth. You aren't nearly intelligent enough to speak for me. But I will say that if a banking executive came to you asking for advice on the meaning and potential impact of Executive Order 14067, and your response was,

    "Lots of possible things to say "what" it is ... depends on your source
    of information. If you decide on any specific line of thought, you can
    make it "what" you want it to be. Like most things government, what
    really matters is "who" gets to decide "what" it means,"

    they would find another lawyer who was far more competent and confident in his or her knowledge and opinions, and you would very likely never hear from them again.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Jan 10 03:35:15 2023
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 5:22:21 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 1:05:58 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 1/9/2023 1:51 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 11:18:52 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:20:02 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 7:28:02 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:


    ~ ^^ absolutely useless lawyer



    You finally admitted it. Don't you feel better now?

    ~ I have admitted for decades that pickle and his standard "everything means nothing therefore nothing means anything" copout makes him look stupid. That's not what people pay lawyers $500/hr to hear.


    Blabbermouth, 12/30/22: 'I have a Juris Doctor from a common law jurisdiction and I have been studying Canadian and US comparative law for over 30 years.
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/eiSUduTpwPc/m/YxZm1FcWCwAJ


    At $500 an hour? LOLOLOLOL
    ~ Blab is unlikely to have attended a good law school, if he attended one
    at all. He seems to actually believe he has "the" answer to a legal question, no matter what the question might be. If he had read the
    book, or even saw the movie, he would know there are no answers ... only results. ONE L ... "Contracts" is the initial fail out course.

    What? Didn't he attend a very, very selective law school

    I don't know what "very, very selective" means (seems awfully subjective), but its median GPA and LSAT scores would be on par with most Tier 1 law schools in the US. Of course, none of that mattered to me because I had the GPA and LSAT score to have a
    competitive application at any law school in North America.

    that is far better than American law schools

    I didn't say that. In fact, I believe I said it it would fall a tier below America's best law schools, comparable to the middle of Tier 1 American law schools or the top of Tier 2 American law schools. I did say that the US differs from Canada in that
    it has Tier 3 and 4 schools whose students would have no chance of being admitted to any Canadian law schools. I believe I backed that up with the requisite data at that time.

    and finish near the top of his class?

    I did say that, but when I later disclosed I graduated just above the 90th percentile (I think it was 91st) you informed me that does not qualify as "near the top," so I guess in your alternate reality I graduated near the middle. I do have some regrets
    that I didn't take law school quite as seriously as I should have. You might recall in the yearbook photo that I posted my classmates commented that "by third year 'there was a sighting' (of Bill) was heard less and less often." That phrase was a running
    joke with my classmates every time I was seen around the law school or in class. I was little preoccupied with entertaining and travelling with my new wife.

    When I asked him to name the law school he shit the bed and pleaded that no one reveal it to me if he let it slip in the past.

    I have said several times here what law school I went to, but when a creepy, apparently mentally ill stalker-guy like you started demanding to know, someone who had previously stated that he had searched every legal database on the internet to find
    information about me ( <<== triple creepy!), I declined to disclose it to you. I didn't understand why you would be demanding such information or what you planned to do with it. I certainly didn't want you calling my ex-classmates and friends to
    investigate me further. That would have been awkward and embarrassing.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Tue Jan 10 07:05:41 2023
    On 1/10/2023 3:41 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 12:09:07 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    What do you think it says? I have read stuff about it, and it just looks like the administration is looking ahead.

    Did you fall for these falsehoods?

    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/sep/08/tiktok-posts/executive-order-14067-does-not-allow-federal-gover/
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/executive-order-14067-biden-bucks/


    Well that settles it. If Politifact and Snopes says it's false, then it's true. Count on it. And Tim Norfolk thinks it's false, that's icing on the cake.

    Actually, if you read the two referenced comments on the one referenced
    comment ... it appears that with a lot of spin, Tim is correct about the "falsehoods" he references.

    If you look closely, even snopes says that while 14067 does not
    "replace" the dollar with digital, it only allow the federal government
    to study the idea ... and when the fed does replace the current paper
    "dollar" with the new digital "dollar", there might come a time when
    what you fear will start ... small steps ... small steps.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Jan 10 08:26:29 2023
    ~ On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 3:35:20 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    When I asked him to name the law school he shit the bed and pleaded that no one reveal it to me if he let it slip in the past.


    ~ I have said several times here what law school I went to, but when a creepy, apparently mentally ill stalker-guy like you


    BillBlabbermouth enthusiastically participating in the death threats against and doxing of 'Bea Foroni':

    Ramashiva, 3/26/12:
    'I am not 100% sure this is correct, but the evidence is pretty damn
    compelling --
    Kristin Jensen
    6116 North Greeley Avenue
    Portland, Oregon 97217
    Let's see if Bitch Bea will confirm or deny.' https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/fQZDHcHA_QM/m/4ulbs0rLFu4J

    Ramashiva, 3/26/12:
    'Eventually the low life scumbags on this newsgroup who lie about me and threadstalk me with nasty insults will figure out that I am a man with whom you should never fuck.'

    'Hopefully it won't be necessary for obituaries to be published before they get the message.'
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/fQZDHcHA_QM/m/HcD-OAwN_tsJ

    brewmaster, 3/26/12:
    'I wouldn't mind if a stalker saw the posted address and came to her house and shot her
    'https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/fQZDHcHA_QM/m/qN28wyiYE2AJ

    Brewmaster, 3/26/12:
    'I DO have a violent criminal conviction on my record, unlike Coleman.' https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.gambling.poker/fQZDHcHA_QM/dvFmaH04FywJ

    Ramashiva, 3/26/12:
    'Bitch Bea has been attacking me for years by making up the most
    degrading insulting nonsense about me she can think of and posting it
    as fact. I have asked her many times to just leave me the fuck alone,
    but she won't. When you fuck with people like this and won't stop,
    you have to realize there will eventually be consequences.

    Bitch Bea has stated many times that she lives in Portland. What are
    the chances this is not Bitch Bea --
    http://www.zillow.com/profile/Bea-Foroni/
    Property records show that the owner of 6116 North Greeley Avenue is
    Kristin Jensen.
    2 + 2 = 4.
    William Coleman (ramashiva)'

    BillBlabbermouth, 3/26/12, responding to Ramashiva threat directly above: 'Never mind years...how about just the things she said about you *yesterday*! I don't know what makes these submorons think they can harass us day after day and get away with it forever.'
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/fQZDHcHA_QM/m/kf41QpniqSEJ

    BillBlabbermouth, Jan 18, 2022: 'All he did was post her address.' https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/BZPsF4vIBGg/m/jPN1LnClAwAJ


    ~ started demanding to know, someone who had previously stated that he had searched every legal database on the internet to find information about me ( <<== triple creepy!), I declined to disclose it to you.


    I never stated (nor did I) 'search every legal database on the internet to find information about' you. You claimed that your name appears on the rolls of the Law Societies of Manitoba and British Columbia. It took about 3 minutes to see that you are not
    listed on the B.C. online law directory. You had a spastic fit for weeks about that. You clearly do not like fact-checking no matter how limited.


    ~ I didn't understand why you would be demanding such information or what you planned to do with it. I certainly didn't want you calling my ex-classmates and friends to investigate me further. That would have been awkward and embarrassing.


    I'll bet. It could be real emabrrassing. How embarrassed are you that I revealed in this post just how much of a hypocrite you are?

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Jan 10 12:11:34 2023
    On 1/10/2023 10:26 AM, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 3:35:20 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    When I asked him to name the law school he shit the bed and pleaded that no one reveal it to me if he let it slip in the past.


    ~ I have said several times here what law school I went to, but when a creepy, apparently mentally ill stalker-guy like you


    BillBlabbermouth enthusiastically participating in the death threats against and doxing of 'Bea Foroni':

    Ramashiva, 3/26/12:
    'I am not 100% sure this is correct, but the evidence is pretty damn compelling --
    Kristin Jensen
    6116 North Greeley Avenue
    Portland, Oregon 97217
    Let's see if Bitch Bea will confirm or deny.' https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/fQZDHcHA_QM/m/4ulbs0rLFu4J

    Ramashiva, 3/26/12:
    'Eventually the low life scumbags on this newsgroup who lie about me and threadstalk me with nasty insults will figure out that I am a man with whom you should never fuck.'

    'Hopefully it won't be necessary for obituaries to be published before they get the message.'
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/fQZDHcHA_QM/m/HcD-OAwN_tsJ

    brewmaster, 3/26/12:
    'I wouldn't mind if a stalker saw the posted address and came to her house and shot her
    'https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/fQZDHcHA_QM/m/qN28wyiYE2AJ

    Brewmaster, 3/26/12:
    'I DO have a violent criminal conviction on my record, unlike Coleman.' https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.gambling.poker/fQZDHcHA_QM/dvFmaH04FywJ

    Ramashiva, 3/26/12:
    'Bitch Bea has been attacking me for years by making up the most
    degrading insulting nonsense about me she can think of and posting it
    as fact. I have asked her many times to just leave me the fuck alone,
    but she won't. When you fuck with people like this and won't stop,
    you have to realize there will eventually be consequences.

    Bitch Bea has stated many times that she lives in Portland. What are
    the chances this is not Bitch Bea -- http://www.zillow.com/profile/Bea-Foroni/
    Property records show that the owner of 6116 North Greeley Avenue is
    Kristin Jensen.
    2 + 2 = 4.
    William Coleman (ramashiva)'

    BillBlabbermouth, 3/26/12, responding to Ramashiva threat directly above: 'Never mind years...how about just the things she said about you *yesterday*! I don't know what makes these submorons think they can harass us day after day and get away with it forever.'
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/fQZDHcHA_QM/m/kf41QpniqSEJ

    BillBlabbermouth, Jan 18, 2022: 'All he did was post her address.' https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/BZPsF4vIBGg/m/jPN1LnClAwAJ


    ~ started demanding to know, someone who had previously stated that he had searched every legal database on the internet to find information about me ( <<== triple creepy!), I declined to disclose it to you.


    I never stated (nor did I) 'search every legal database on the internet to find information about' you. You claimed that your name appears on the rolls of the Law Societies of Manitoba and British Columbia. It took about 3 minutes to see that you are
    not listed on the B.C. online law directory. You had a spastic fit for weeks about that. You clearly do not like fact-checking no matter how limited.


    ~ I didn't understand why you would be demanding such information or what you planned to do with it. I certainly didn't want you calling my ex-classmates and friends to investigate me further. That would have been awkward and embarrassing.


    I'll bet. It could be real emabrrassing. How embarrassed are you that I revealed in this post just how much of a hypocrite you are?

    S(He) might be so embarrassed that (s)he just ignores it completely.
    That would be the safest bet. Such things will just go away and be
    forgotten.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Jan 10 11:47:53 2023
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 8:26:33 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 3:35:20 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    When I asked him to name the law school he shit the bed and pleaded that no one reveal it to me if he let it slip in the past.
    ~ I have said several times here what law school I went to, but when a creepy, apparently mentally ill stalker-guy like you


    BillBlabbermouth enthusiastically participating in the death threats against and doxing of 'Bea Foroni':

    Ramashiva, 3/26/12:
    'I am not 100% sure this is correct, but the evidence is pretty damn compelling --
    Kristin Jensen
    6116 North Greeley Avenue
    Portland, Oregon 97217
    Let's see if Bitch Bea will confirm or deny.' https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/fQZDHcHA_QM/m/4ulbs0rLFu4J

    Ramashiva, 3/26/12:
    'Eventually the low life scumbags on this newsgroup who lie about me and threadstalk me with nasty insults will figure out that I am a man with whom you should never fuck.'

    'Hopefully it won't be necessary for obituaries to be published before they get the message.'
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/fQZDHcHA_QM/m/HcD-OAwN_tsJ

    brewmaster, 3/26/12:
    'I wouldn't mind if a stalker saw the posted address and came to her house and shot her
    'https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/fQZDHcHA_QM/m/qN28wyiYE2AJ

    Brewmaster, 3/26/12:
    'I DO have a violent criminal conviction on my record, unlike Coleman.' https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.gambling.poker/fQZDHcHA_QM/dvFmaH04FywJ

    Ramashiva, 3/26/12:
    'Bitch Bea has been attacking me for years by making up the most
    degrading insulting nonsense about me she can think of and posting it
    as fact. I have asked her many times to just leave me the fuck alone,
    but she won't. When you fuck with people like this and won't stop,
    you have to realize there will eventually be consequences.

    Bitch Bea has stated many times that she lives in Portland. What are
    the chances this is not Bitch Bea -- http://www.zillow.com/profile/Bea-Foroni/
    Property records show that the owner of 6116 North Greeley Avenue is
    Kristin Jensen.
    2 + 2 = 4.
    William Coleman (ramashiva)'

    BillBlabbermouth, 3/26/12, responding to Ramashiva threat directly above: 'Never mind years...how about just the things she said about you *yesterday*! I don't know what makes these submorons think they can harass us day after day and get away with it forever.'
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/fQZDHcHA_QM/m/kf41QpniqSEJ

    BillBlabbermouth, Jan 18, 2022: 'All he did was post her address.' https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/BZPsF4vIBGg/m/jPN1LnClAwAJ

    I didn't participate in anything. I chimed in AFTER THE FACT when Ramashiva turned the tables on HIS stalker, well after he begged her time and again to just leave him alone.


    ~ started demanding to know, someone who had previously stated that he had searched every legal database on the internet to find information about me ( <<== triple creepy!), I declined to disclose it to you.


    I never stated (nor did I) 'search every legal database on the internet to find information about' you. You claimed that your name appears on the rolls of the Law Societies of Manitoba and British Columbia. It took about 3 minutes to see that you are
    not listed on the B.C. online law directory. You had a spastic fit for weeks about that. You clearly do not like fact-checking no matter how limited.


    Yes, you did claim you searched every legal database on the internet. Why lie? Are you now embarrassed by your stalking behavior?


    ~ I didn't understand why you would be demanding such information or what you planned to do with it. I certainly didn't want you calling my ex-classmates and friends to investigate me further. That would have been awkward and embarrassing.


    I'll bet. It could be real emabrrassing. How embarrassed are you that I revealed in this post just how much of a hypocrite you are?

    You didn't reveal anything except that you are a pathological liar.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John_Brian_K@21:1/5 to BillB on Thu Jan 12 13:52:51 2023
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 2:47:57 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 8:26:33 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 3:35:20 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    When I asked him to name the law school he shit the bed and pleaded that no one reveal it to me if he let it slip in the past.
    ~ I have said several times here what law school I went to, but when a creepy, apparently mentally ill stalker-guy like you


    BillBlabbermouth enthusiastically participating in the death threats against and doxing of 'Bea Foroni':

    Ramashiva, 3/26/12:
    'I am not 100% sure this is correct, but the evidence is pretty damn compelling --
    Kristin Jensen
    6116 North Greeley Avenue
    Portland, Oregon 97217
    Let's see if Bitch Bea will confirm or deny.' https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/fQZDHcHA_QM/m/4ulbs0rLFu4J

    Ramashiva, 3/26/12:
    'Eventually the low life scumbags on this newsgroup who lie about me and threadstalk me with nasty insults will figure out that I am a man with whom you should never fuck.'

    'Hopefully it won't be necessary for obituaries to be published before they get the message.'
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/fQZDHcHA_QM/m/HcD-OAwN_tsJ

    brewmaster, 3/26/12:
    'I wouldn't mind if a stalker saw the posted address and came to her house and shot her
    'https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/fQZDHcHA_QM/m/qN28wyiYE2AJ

    Brewmaster, 3/26/12:
    'I DO have a violent criminal conviction on my record, unlike Coleman.' https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.gambling.poker/fQZDHcHA_QM/dvFmaH04FywJ

    Ramashiva, 3/26/12:
    'Bitch Bea has been attacking me for years by making up the most
    degrading insulting nonsense about me she can think of and posting it
    as fact. I have asked her many times to just leave me the fuck alone,
    but she won't. When you fuck with people like this and won't stop,
    you have to realize there will eventually be consequences.

    Bitch Bea has stated many times that she lives in Portland. What are
    the chances this is not Bitch Bea -- http://www.zillow.com/profile/Bea-Foroni/
    Property records show that the owner of 6116 North Greeley Avenue is Kristin Jensen.
    2 + 2 = 4.
    William Coleman (ramashiva)'

    BillBlabbermouth, 3/26/12, responding to Ramashiva threat directly above: 'Never mind years...how about just the things she said about you *yesterday*! I don't know what makes these submorons think they can harass us day after day and get away with it forever.'
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/fQZDHcHA_QM/m/kf41QpniqSEJ

    BillBlabbermouth, Jan 18, 2022: 'All he did was post her address.' https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/BZPsF4vIBGg/m/jPN1LnClAwAJ
    I didn't participate in anything. I chimed in AFTER THE FACT when Ramashiva turned the tables on HIS stalker, well after he begged her time and again to just leave him alone.
    ~ started demanding to know, someone who had previously stated that he had searched every legal database on the internet to find information about me ( <<== triple creepy!), I declined to disclose it to you.


    I never stated (nor did I) 'search every legal database on the internet to find information about' you. You claimed that your name appears on the rolls of the Law Societies of Manitoba and British Columbia. It took about 3 minutes to see that you are
    not listed on the B.C. online law directory. You had a spastic fit for weeks about that. You clearly do not like fact-checking no matter how limited.

    Yes, you did claim you searched every legal database on the internet. Why lie? Are you now embarrassed by your stalking behavior?
    ~ I didn't understand why you would be demanding such information or what you planned to do with it. I certainly didn't want you calling my ex-classmates and friends to investigate me further. That would have been awkward and embarrassing.


    I'll bet. It could be real emabrrassing. How embarrassed are you that I revealed in this post just how much of a hypocrite you are?
    You didn't reveal anything except that you are a pathological liar.

    I cannot imagine Ram "begging" anyone to do anything.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 12 14:16:48 2023
    On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 1:52:55 PM UTC-8, John_Brian_K wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 2:47:57 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 8:26:33 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 3:35:20 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    When I asked him to name the law school he shit the bed and pleaded that no one reveal it to me if he let it slip in the past.
    ~ I have said several times here what law school I went to, but when a creepy, apparently mentally ill stalker-guy like you


    BillBlabbermouth enthusiastically participating in the death threats against and doxing of 'Bea Foroni':

    Ramashiva, 3/26/12:
    'I am not 100% sure this is correct, but the evidence is pretty damn compelling --
    Kristin Jensen
    6116 North Greeley Avenue
    Portland, Oregon 97217
    Let's see if Bitch Bea will confirm or deny.' https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/fQZDHcHA_QM/m/4ulbs0rLFu4J

    Ramashiva, 3/26/12:
    'Eventually the low life scumbags on this newsgroup who lie about me and threadstalk me with nasty insults will figure out that I am a man with whom you should never fuck.'

    'Hopefully it won't be necessary for obituaries to be published before they get the message.'
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/fQZDHcHA_QM/m/HcD-OAwN_tsJ

    brewmaster, 3/26/12:
    'I wouldn't mind if a stalker saw the posted address and came to her house and shot her
    'https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/fQZDHcHA_QM/m/qN28wyiYE2AJ

    Brewmaster, 3/26/12:
    'I DO have a violent criminal conviction on my record, unlike Coleman.' https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.gambling.poker/fQZDHcHA_QM/dvFmaH04FywJ

    Ramashiva, 3/26/12:
    'Bitch Bea has been attacking me for years by making up the most degrading insulting nonsense about me she can think of and posting it
    as fact. I have asked her many times to just leave me the fuck alone, but she won't. When you fuck with people like this and won't stop,
    you have to realize there will eventually be consequences.

    Bitch Bea has stated many times that she lives in Portland. What are
    the chances this is not Bitch Bea -- http://www.zillow.com/profile/Bea-Foroni/
    Property records show that the owner of 6116 North Greeley Avenue is Kristin Jensen.
    2 + 2 = 4.
    William Coleman (ramashiva)'

    BillBlabbermouth, 3/26/12, responding to Ramashiva threat directly above:
    'Never mind years...how about just the things she said about you *yesterday*! I don't know what makes these submorons think they can harass us day after day and get away with it forever.'
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/fQZDHcHA_QM/m/kf41QpniqSEJ

    BillBlabbermouth, Jan 18, 2022: 'All he did was post her address.' https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/BZPsF4vIBGg/m/jPN1LnClAwAJ
    I didn't participate in anything. I chimed in AFTER THE FACT when Ramashiva turned the tables on HIS stalker, well after he begged her time and again to just leave him alone.
    ~ started demanding to know, someone who had previously stated that he had searched every legal database on the internet to find information about me ( <<== triple creepy!), I declined to disclose it to you.


    I never stated (nor did I) 'search every legal database on the internet to find information about' you. You claimed that your name appears on the rolls of the Law Societies of Manitoba and British Columbia. It took about 3 minutes to see that you
    are not listed on the B.C. online law directory. You had a spastic fit for weeks about that. You clearly do not like fact-checking no matter how limited.

    Yes, you did claim you searched every legal database on the internet. Why lie? Are you now embarrassed by your stalking behavior?
    ~ I didn't understand why you would be demanding such information or what you planned to do with it. I certainly didn't want you calling my ex-classmates and friends to investigate me further. That would have been awkward and embarrassing.


    I'll bet. It could be real emabrrassing. How embarrassed are you that I revealed in this post just how much of a hypocrite you are?
    You didn't reveal anything except that you are a pathological liar.
    I cannot imagine Ram "begging" anyone to do anything.

    My recollection is that he practically did (but yes, I did wrestle with that word choice -- I changed it, but then decided to change it back because "requested" just wasn't strong enough). I remember him trying to make a deal with her that if she would
    just finally leave him alone he would never respond to her or refer to her again. He was clearly distressed about it, and I am quite certain he told her several times that if she persisted he would retaliate (I think I recall him saying that she was "
    fucking with a man with whom you do not fuck"). That just encouraged her to double and triple down on the abuse. So yes, I do still feel she had ample warnings and got the very least of what she was asking for.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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