• Keynesians ... like all the blabbers

    From da pickle@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 18 10:47:03 2022
    There is a quiet conversation in upper academic and economic policy
    levels that looks at the debt and thinks 4% inflation is what we need.
    This of course will slow the economy down but what if we are going to
    run deficits? They were worried back then US government debt was getting
    too high. Since debt is nominal, 4% inflation cuts it in half in 18
    years. It also cuts your assets and income by half in that same time.
    They didn’t seem worried by the effect on middle America. They were
    trying to figure out how to kick the can down the road rather than
    balance budgets, which they felt would be too restrictive to the
    economy. Uber Keynesians all of them. Note that all of the Fed types
    seem to be Keynesians.

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to da pickle on Sun Dec 18 22:30:04 2022
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 11:47:13 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    There is a quiet conversation in upper academic and economic policy
    levels that looks at the debt and thinks 4% inflation is what we need.
    This of course will slow the economy down but what if we are going to
    run deficits? They were worried back then US government debt was getting
    too high. Since debt is nominal, 4% inflation cuts it in half in 18
    years. It also cuts your assets and income by half in that same time.
    They didn’t seem worried by the effect on middle America. They were
    trying to figure out how to kick the can down the road rather than
    balance budgets, which they felt would be too restrictive to the
    economy. Uber Keynesians all of them. Note that all of the Fed types
    seem to be Keynesians.

    Isn't a great deal of inflation due to external causes (other countries)? In that case, it is very hard to control at all.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Mon Dec 19 06:25:33 2022
    On 12/19/2022 12:30 AM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 11:47:13 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    There is a quiet conversation in upper academic and economic policy
    levels that looks at the debt and thinks 4% inflation is what we need.
    This of course will slow the economy down but what if we are going to
    run deficits? They were worried back then US government debt was getting
    too high. Since debt is nominal, 4% inflation cuts it in half in 18
    years. It also cuts your assets and income by half in that same time.
    They didn’t seem worried by the effect on middle America. They were
    trying to figure out how to kick the can down the road rather than
    balance budgets, which they felt would be too restrictive to the
    economy. Uber Keynesians all of them. Note that all of the Fed types
    seem to be Keynesians.

    Isn't a great deal of inflation due to external causes (other countries)? In that case, it is very hard to control at all.

    So ... what do you think ... it is too hard so do no try ... or those in control are doing the best that can be done ... or maybe you just wanted
    to said nothing about it at all. Success

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to da pickle on Mon Dec 19 07:27:29 2022
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 4:25:43 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/19/2022 12:30 AM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 11:47:13 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    There is a quiet conversation in upper academic and economic policy
    levels that looks at the debt and thinks 4% inflation is what we need.
    This of course will slow the economy down but what if we are going to
    run deficits? They were worried back then US government debt was getting >> too high. Since debt is nominal, 4% inflation cuts it in half in 18
    years. It also cuts your assets and income by half in that same time.
    They didn’t seem worried by the effect on middle America. They were
    trying to figure out how to kick the can down the road rather than
    balance budgets, which they felt would be too restrictive to the
    economy. Uber Keynesians all of them. Note that all of the Fed types
    seem to be Keynesians.

    Isn't a great deal of inflation due to external causes (other countries)? In that case, it is very hard to control at all.
    So ... what do you think ... it is too hard so do no try ... or those in control are doing the best that can be done ... or maybe you just wanted
    to said nothing about it at all. Success
    .

    (You were warned, Tim..)

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Mon Dec 19 09:48:26 2022
    On 12/19/2022 9:27 AM, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 4:25:43 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/19/2022 12:30 AM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 11:47:13 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    There is a quiet conversation in upper academic and economic policy
    levels that looks at the debt and thinks 4% inflation is what we need. >>>> This of course will slow the economy down but what if we are going to
    run deficits? They were worried back then US government debt was getting >>>> too high. Since debt is nominal, 4% inflation cuts it in half in 18
    years. It also cuts your assets and income by half in that same time.
    They didn’t seem worried by the effect on middle America. They were
    trying to figure out how to kick the can down the road rather than
    balance budgets, which they felt would be too restrictive to the
    economy. Uber Keynesians all of them. Note that all of the Fed types
    seem to be Keynesians.

    Isn't a great deal of inflation due to external causes (other countries)? In that case, it is very hard to control at all.
    So ... what do you think ... it is too hard so do no try ... or those in
    control are doing the best that can be done ... or maybe you just wanted
    to said nothing about it at all. Success
    .

    (You were warned, Tim..)

    Yeah, Tim ... hope Jerry can help ... can it be controlled? I do not
    think it can be controlled, do you?

    Jerry apparently is hiding his solution.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Mon Dec 19 08:06:02 2022
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:30:08 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    Isn't a great deal of inflation due to external causes (other countries)? In that case, it is very hard to control at all.


    That's a stupid remark. Our inflation is our spending. Easy to solve. Stop spending, stop printing.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to paulpo...@sbcglobal.net on Mon Dec 19 12:02:11 2022
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 8:06:06 AM UTC-8, paulpo...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:30:08 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    Isn't a great deal of inflation due to external causes (other countries)? In that case, it is very hard to control at all.
    That's a stupid remark. Our inflation is our spending. Easy to solve. Stop spending, stop printing.
    .

    Rather than addressing this complex problem with, “Easy to solve;” make that,
    “It ain’t nothing for us simply minded…”

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to da pickle on Mon Dec 19 14:42:38 2022
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 7:25:43 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/19/2022 12:30 AM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 11:47:13 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    There is a quiet conversation in upper academic and economic policy
    levels that looks at the debt and thinks 4% inflation is what we need.
    This of course will slow the economy down but what if we are going to
    run deficits? They were worried back then US government debt was getting >> too high. Since debt is nominal, 4% inflation cuts it in half in 18
    years. It also cuts your assets and income by half in that same time.
    They didn’t seem worried by the effect on middle America. They were
    trying to figure out how to kick the can down the road rather than
    balance budgets, which they felt would be too restrictive to the
    economy. Uber Keynesians all of them. Note that all of the Fed types
    seem to be Keynesians.

    Isn't a great deal of inflation due to external causes (other countries)? In that case, it is very hard to control at all.
    So ... what do you think ... it is too hard so do no try ... or those in control are doing the best that can be done ... or maybe you just wanted
    to said nothing about it at all. Success

    No. But trying to do everything by manipulating the US economy cannot work. The rest of the world is quite big, if you hadn't noticed.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Tue Dec 20 02:50:40 2022
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 12:02:16 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:


    Rather than addressing this complex problem with, “Easy to solve;” make that,
    “It ain’t nothing for us simply minded…”

    You didn't even know who Keynes was until the name came up in this thread, you simple stupid fuck. It's not a complex problem. You make me sick.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Tue Dec 20 02:47:33 2022
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 2:42:42 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    No. But trying to do everything by manipulating the US economy cannot work. The rest of the world is quite big, if you hadn't noticed.


    Quit printing worthless unbacked paper, you stupid mutherfucker. It's that fucking easy. Ignoramus.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net on Tue Dec 20 11:45:19 2022
    Paul Popinjay <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 2:42:42 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    No. But trying to do everything by manipulating the US economy cannot
    work. The rest of the world is quite big, if you hadn't noticed.


    Quit printing worthless unbacked paper, you stupid mutherfucker. It's
    that fucking easy. Ignoramus.

    I was at Safeway and the mangoes from Peru were beautiful and
    the sign said they were on sale at for 88 cents each. When I
    got to the checker I discovered she wouldn't take my beloved
    bitcoin, nor even gold dust! But she accepted my worthless,
    unbacked $100 bill. "Keep the change," I said, and I laughed
    all the way to the door at my clever joke. Those morons!

    --bks

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Tue Dec 20 07:40:59 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 3:45:26 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:

    I was at Safeway and the mangoes from Peru were beautiful and
    the sign said they were on sale at for 88 cents each. When I
    got to the checker I discovered she wouldn't take my beloved
    bitcoin, nor even gold dust! But she accepted my worthless,
    unbacked $100 bill. "Keep the change," I said, and I laughed
    all the way to the door at my clever joke. Those morons!



    Mangoes have worms. And you are a worm. Interesting.

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