Local news item:
female motorist driving erratically, stopped by police,
claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged
with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative.
Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to
sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering
sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her
settlement, not tacked on extra.
*****************************
And, latest on FTX, the kid's parents are under scrutiny,
aiding and abetting, probably.
They're professors at Stanford law school! Dad
specializes in tax law, expert on the so-called
'loop holes'. A pretty handy counselor for his cub's
venture, incorporated in Bahamas. A random choice
of location, I'm sure -
When the FTX collapsed, they hustled out to
Bahamas to return the deed on their $15 million
chalet, to FTX. hmmmm... if someone is legal owner,
why would he return the property?
Anyway, story is he hired some criminal attorneys.
A colleague said he might be bankrupted. A lawyer's
wallet emptied by legal fees! Which proves there is a
Jesus, and he doesn't forgive all sins -
--
Rich
On December 14, risky biz wrote:
female motorist driving erratically, stopped by police,
claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged
with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative.
Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to
sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering
sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Inevitable lawsuit, and she gets a $750,000 settlement.
Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her
settlement, not tacked on extra.
Most likely 30-40%, maybe more.$350 grand
For a single case!
Which makes me wonder, do the plaintiffs in these cases shop
around, solicit quotes from lawyers?
--
Rich
female motorist driving erratically, stopped by police,
claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged
with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative.
Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to
sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering
sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Inevitable lawsuit, and she gets a $750,000 settlement.
Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her
settlement, not tacked on extra.
Most likely 30-40%, maybe more.
On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 2:35:41 PM UTC-8, RichD wrote:by the hour from the outset and living with the outcome no matter which way it goes. Most people choose the former route, putting much of the risk of prosecuting the case on their counsel.
On December 14, risky biz wrote:
female motorist driving erratically, stopped by police,
claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged
with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative.
Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to
sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering
sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Inevitable lawsuit, and she gets a $750,000 settlement.
Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her
settlement, not tacked on extra.
Most likely 30-40%, maybe more.$350 grand
For a single case!
Which makes me wonder, do the plaintiffs in these cases shop
around, solicit quotes from lawyers?
--We used to charge 20% if a case settled before examinations for discovery, 25% after examinations for discovery, and 33% after the start of the trial. Of course, if a plaintiff wants to bet on their own case, there is nothing stopping them from paying
Rich
On December 14, risky biz wrote:
female motorist driving erratically, stopped by police,
claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged
with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative.
Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to
sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering
sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Inevitable lawsuit, and she gets a $750,000 settlement.
Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her
settlement, not tacked on extra.
Most likely 30-40%, maybe more.
$350 grand
For a single case!
Which makes me wonder, do the plaintiffs in these cases shop
around, solicit quotes from lawyers?
female motorist driving erratically, stopped by police,
claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged
with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative.
Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to
sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering
sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Inevitable lawsuit, and she gets a $750,000 settlement.
Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her
settlement, not tacked on extra.
Most likely 30-40%, maybe more.
$350 grand For a single case!
Which makes me wonder, do the plaintiffs in these cases shop
around, solicit quotes from lawyers?
Most plaintiff lawyers charge 33% (plus expenses ...
On 12/15/2022 4:35 PM, RichD wrote:
On December 14, risky biz wrote:
female motorist driving erratically, stopped by police,
claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged
with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative.
Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to
sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering
sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Inevitable lawsuit, and she gets a $750,000 settlement.
Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her
settlement, not tacked on extra.
Most likely 30-40%, maybe more.
$350 grand
For a single case!
Which makes me wonder, do the plaintiffs in these cases shop
around, solicit quotes from lawyers?
fees) ... most plaintiffs watch television and see the commercials.
[Lawyers that lose the case do not get anything and must pay for the
expenses themselves.]
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 5:50:07 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
On 12/15/2022 4:35 PM, RichD wrote:
On December 14, risky biz wrote:
female motorist driving erratically, stopped by police,
claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged
with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative.
Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to
sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering
sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Inevitable lawsuit, and she gets a $750,000 settlement.
Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her
settlement, not tacked on extra.
Most likely 30-40%, maybe more.
$350 grand
For a single case!
Which makes me wonder, do the plaintiffs in these cases shop
around, solicit quotes from lawyers?
~ Most plaintiff lawyers charge 33% (plus expenses ... like expert witness
fees) ... most plaintiffs watch television and see the commercials.
[Lawyers that lose the case do not get anything and must pay for the
expenses themselves.]
An attorney will rarely take a case on a contingency fee unless they have a high degree of confidence they will win.
See if several attorneys will accept the case on contingency. If so, then hire a good attorney on retainer.
If someone can't afford a retainer fee (i.e. most people) then you have discovered a principle of the modern social structure: courtroom redress is for those who can afford it.
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 5:50:07 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:.
On 12/15/2022 4:35 PM, RichD wrote:
On December 14, risky biz wrote:
female motorist driving erratically, stopped by police,
claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged
with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative.
Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to
sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering
sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Inevitable lawsuit, and she gets a $750,000 settlement.
Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her
settlement, not tacked on extra.
Most likely 30-40%, maybe more.
$350 grand
For a single case!
~ Most plaintiff lawyers charge 33% (plus expenses ... like expert witnessWhich makes me wonder, do the plaintiffs in these cases shop
around, solicit quotes from lawyers?
fees) ... most plaintiffs watch television and see the commercials. [Lawyers that lose the case do not get anything and must pay for the expenses themselves.]An attorney will rarely take a case on a contingency fee unless they have a high degree of confidence they will win.
See if several attorneys will accept the case on contingency. If so, then hire a good attorney on retainer.
If someone can't afford a retainer fee (i.e. most people) then you have discovered a principle of the modern social structure: courtroom redress is for those who can afford it.
On 12/16/2022 2:57 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 5:50:07 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
On 12/15/2022 4:35 PM, RichD wrote:
On December 14, risky biz wrote:
female motorist driving erratically, stopped by police,
claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged
with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative.
Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to
sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering
sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Inevitable lawsuit, and she gets a $750,000 settlement.
Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her
settlement, not tacked on extra.
Most likely 30-40%, maybe more.
$350 grand
For a single case!
Which makes me wonder, do the plaintiffs in these cases shop
around, solicit quotes from lawyers?
~ Most plaintiff lawyers charge 33% (plus expenses ... like expert witness
fees) ... most plaintiffs watch television and see the commercials.
[Lawyers that lose the case do not get anything and must pay for the
expenses themselves.]
.An attorney will rarely take a case on a contingency fee unless they have a high degree of confidence they will win.
See if several attorneys will accept the case on contingency. If so, then hire a good attorney on retainer.
If someone can't afford a retainer fee (i.e. most people) then you have discovered a principle of the modern social structure: courtroom redress is for those who can afford it.Sorry, risky, only defense attorneys work by the hour. [Juries know
that an injured person only gets two thirds of the amount they award, if they award anything.]
The tort system in the USA is broken but it not likely ever to be fixed
... even if it could be fixed.
On 12/16/2022 2:57 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 5:50:07 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
On 12/15/2022 4:35 PM, RichD wrote:
On December 14, risky biz wrote:
female motorist driving erratically, stopped by police,
claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged
with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative.
Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to
sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering
sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Inevitable lawsuit, and she gets a $750,000 settlement.
Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her
settlement, not tacked on extra.
Most likely 30-40%, maybe more.
$350 grand
For a single case!
Which makes me wonder, do the plaintiffs in these cases shop
around, solicit quotes from lawyers?
~ Most plaintiff lawyers charge 33% (plus expenses ... like expert witness
fees) ... most plaintiffs watch television and see the commercials.
[Lawyers that lose the case do not get anything and must pay for the
expenses themselves.]
An attorney will rarely take a case on a contingency fee unless they have a high degree of confidence they will win.
See if several attorneys will accept the case on contingency. If so, then hire a good attorney on retainer.
If someone can't afford a retainer fee (i.e. most people) then you have discovered a principle of the modern social structure: courtroom redress is for those who can afford it.
that an injured person only gets two thirds of the amount they award, if they award anything.]
The tort system in the USA is broken but it not likely ever to be fixed
... even if it could be fixed.
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:06:58 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
On 12/16/2022 2:57 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 5:50:07 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
On 12/15/2022 4:35 PM, RichD wrote:
On December 14, risky biz wrote:
female motorist driving erratically, stopped by police,
claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged
with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative.
Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to
sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering
sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Inevitable lawsuit, and she gets a $750,000 settlement.
Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her
settlement, not tacked on extra.
Most likely 30-40%, maybe more.
$350 grand
For a single case!
Which makes me wonder, do the plaintiffs in these cases shop
around, solicit quotes from lawyers?
~ Most plaintiff lawyers charge 33% (plus expenses ... like expert witness >>>> fees) ... most plaintiffs watch television and see the commercials.
[Lawyers that lose the case do not get anything and must pay for the
expenses themselves.]
An attorney will rarely take a case on a contingency fee unless they have a high degree of confidence they will win.
See if several attorneys will accept the case on contingency. If so, then hire a good attorney on retainer.
If someone can't afford a retainer fee (i.e. most people) then you have discovered a principle of the modern social structure: courtroom redress is for those who can afford it.
~ Sorry, risky, only defense attorneys work by the hour.
Really?be higher in major urban areas, and in matters requiring special legal expertise (e.g., admiralty, tax, patent law).'
'The most common form of charging legal clients is through an hourly rate. Most attorneys charge a rate between $100 and $300 per hour. Top legal counsel, with a reputation for success in complex or highly visible cases, may charge more. Rates tend to
https://attorneys.uslegal.com/attorney-fees/types-of-fee-arrangements/hourly-fees/
[Juries know
that an injured person only gets two thirds of the amount they award, if
they award anything.]
The tort system in the USA is broken but it not likely ever to be fixed
... even if it could be fixed.
On 12/16/2022 10:35 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:06:58 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
On 12/16/2022 2:57 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 5:50:07 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
On 12/15/2022 4:35 PM, RichD wrote:
On December 14, risky biz wrote:
female motorist driving erratically, stopped by police,
claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged
with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative.
Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to
sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering
sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Inevitable lawsuit, and she gets a $750,000 settlement.
Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her
settlement, not tacked on extra.
Most likely 30-40%, maybe more.
$350 grand
For a single case!
Which makes me wonder, do the plaintiffs in these cases shop
around, solicit quotes from lawyers?
~ Most plaintiff lawyers charge 33% (plus expenses ... like expert witness
fees) ... most plaintiffs watch television and see the commercials. >>>> [Lawyers that lose the case do not get anything and must pay for the >>>> expenses themselves.]
An attorney will rarely take a case on a contingency fee unless they have a high degree of confidence they will win.
See if several attorneys will accept the case on contingency. If so, then hire a good attorney on retainer.
If someone can't afford a retainer fee (i.e. most people) then you have discovered a principle of the modern social structure: courtroom redress is for those who can afford it.
~ Sorry, risky, only defense attorneys work by the hour.
to be higher in major urban areas, and in matters requiring special legal expertise (e.g., admiralty, tax, patent law).'Really?
'The most common form of charging legal clients is through an hourly rate. Most attorneys charge a rate between $100 and $300 per hour. Top legal counsel, with a reputation for success in complex or highly visible cases, may charge more. Rates tend
https://attorneys.uslegal.com/attorney-fees/types-of-fee-arrangements/hourly-fees/
[Juries know
that an injured person only gets two thirds of the amount they award, if >> they award anything.]
The tort system in the USA is broken but it not likely ever to be fixed >> ... even if it could be fixed.
On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 7:20:10 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:to be higher in major urban areas, and in matters requiring special legal expertise (e.g., admiralty, tax, patent law).'
On 12/16/2022 10:35 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:06:58 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
On 12/16/2022 2:57 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 5:50:07 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
On 12/15/2022 4:35 PM, RichD wrote:
On December 14, risky biz wrote:
female motorist driving erratically, stopped by police,
claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged
with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative.
Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to
sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering
sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Inevitable lawsuit, and she gets a $750,000 settlement.
Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her
settlement, not tacked on extra.
Most likely 30-40%, maybe more.
$350 grand
For a single case!
Which makes me wonder, do the plaintiffs in these cases shop
around, solicit quotes from lawyers?
~ Most plaintiff lawyers charge 33% (plus expenses ... like expert witness
fees) ... most plaintiffs watch television and see the commercials. >>>>>> [Lawyers that lose the case do not get anything and must pay for the >>>>>> expenses themselves.]
An attorney will rarely take a case on a contingency fee unless they have a high degree of confidence they will win.
See if several attorneys will accept the case on contingency. If so, then hire a good attorney on retainer.
If someone can't afford a retainer fee (i.e. most people) then you have discovered a principle of the modern social structure: courtroom redress is for those who can afford it.
~ Sorry, risky, only defense attorneys work by the hour.
Really?
'The most common form of charging legal clients is through an hourly rate. Most attorneys charge a rate between $100 and $300 per hour. Top legal counsel, with a reputation for success in complex or highly visible cases, may charge more. Rates tend
https://attorneys.uslegal.com/attorney-fees/types-of-fee-arrangements/hourly-fees/
[Juries know
that an injured person only gets two thirds of the amount they award, if >>>> they award anything.]
The tort system in the USA is broken but it not likely ever to be fixed >>>> ... even if it could be fixed.
~ risky, we were talking torts ...
I didn't specify defense attorneys. What we were talking about was the OP. In the OP, the person in question was the plaintiff. No?
On 12/17/2022 1:06 PM, risky biz wrote:to be higher in major urban areas, and in matters requiring special legal expertise (e.g., admiralty, tax, patent law).'
On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 7:20:10 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
On 12/16/2022 10:35 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:06:58 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
On 12/16/2022 2:57 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 5:50:07 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 12/15/2022 4:35 PM, RichD wrote:
On December 14, risky biz wrote:
female motorist driving erratically, stopped by police,
claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged
with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative.
Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to
sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering
sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Inevitable lawsuit, and she gets a $750,000 settlement.
Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her
settlement, not tacked on extra.
Most likely 30-40%, maybe more.
$350 grand
For a single case!
Which makes me wonder, do the plaintiffs in these cases shop
around, solicit quotes from lawyers?
~ Most plaintiff lawyers charge 33% (plus expenses ... like expert witness
fees) ... most plaintiffs watch television and see the commercials. >>>>>> [Lawyers that lose the case do not get anything and must pay for the >>>>>> expenses themselves.]
An attorney will rarely take a case on a contingency fee unless they have a high degree of confidence they will win.
See if several attorneys will accept the case on contingency. If so, then hire a good attorney on retainer.
If someone can't afford a retainer fee (i.e. most people) then you have discovered a principle of the modern social structure: courtroom redress is for those who can afford it.
~ Sorry, risky, only defense attorneys work by the hour.
Really?
'The most common form of charging legal clients is through an hourly rate. Most attorneys charge a rate between $100 and $300 per hour. Top legal counsel, with a reputation for success in complex or highly visible cases, may charge more. Rates tend
https://attorneys.uslegal.com/attorney-fees/types-of-fee-arrangements/hourly-fees/
[Juries know
that an injured person only gets two thirds of the amount they award, if
they award anything.]
The tort system in the USA is broken but it not likely ever to be fixed >>>> ... even if it could be fixed.
~ risky, we were talking torts ...
I didn't specify defense attorneys. What we were talking about was the OP. In the OP, the person in question was the plaintiff. No?Correct ... we were talking torts. Attorneys representing plaintiffs
work on contingency ... defense attorneys work by the hour. [We can
talk about how long an "hour" is another "time".]
On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 7:22:50 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:to be higher in major urban areas, and in matters requiring special legal expertise (e.g., admiralty, tax, patent law).'
On 12/17/2022 1:06 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 7:20:10 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
On 12/16/2022 10:35 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:06:58 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
On 12/16/2022 2:57 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 5:50:07 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>> On 12/15/2022 4:35 PM, RichD wrote:
On December 14, risky biz wrote:
female motorist driving erratically, stopped by police,
claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged
with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative.
Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to
sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering >>>>>>>>>>> sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Inevitable lawsuit, and she gets a $750,000 settlement.
Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her
settlement, not tacked on extra.
Most likely 30-40%, maybe more.
$350 grand
For a single case!
Which makes me wonder, do the plaintiffs in these cases shop >>>>>>>>> around, solicit quotes from lawyers?
~ Most plaintiff lawyers charge 33% (plus expenses ... like expert witness
fees) ... most plaintiffs watch television and see the commercials. >>>>>>>> [Lawyers that lose the case do not get anything and must pay for the >>>>>>>> expenses themselves.]
An attorney will rarely take a case on a contingency fee unless they have a high degree of confidence they will win.
See if several attorneys will accept the case on contingency. If so, then hire a good attorney on retainer.
If someone can't afford a retainer fee (i.e. most people) then you have discovered a principle of the modern social structure: courtroom redress is for those who can afford it.
~ Sorry, risky, only defense attorneys work by the hour.
Really?
'The most common form of charging legal clients is through an hourly rate. Most attorneys charge a rate between $100 and $300 per hour. Top legal counsel, with a reputation for success in complex or highly visible cases, may charge more. Rates tend
Correct ... we were talking torts. Attorneys representing plaintiffshttps://attorneys.uslegal.com/attorney-fees/types-of-fee-arrangements/hourly-fees/
[Juries know
that an injured person only gets two thirds of the amount they award, if >>>>>> they award anything.]
The tort system in the USA is broken but it not likely ever to be fixed >>>>>> ... even if it could be fixed.
~ risky, we were talking torts ...
I didn't specify defense attorneys. What we were talking about was the OP. In the OP, the person in question was the plaintiff. No?
work on contingency ... defense attorneys work by the hour. [We can
talk about how long an "hour" is another "time".]
That's not true. Countless tort cases are handled on an hourly billing basis by the plaintiff's lawyer.
On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 7:22:50 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:tend to be higher in major urban areas, and in matters requiring special legal expertise (e.g., admiralty, tax, patent law).'
On 12/17/2022 1:06 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 7:20:10 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
On 12/16/2022 10:35 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:06:58 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>> On 12/16/2022 2:57 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 5:50:07 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 12/15/2022 4:35 PM, RichD wrote:
On December 14, risky biz wrote:
female motorist driving erratically, stopped by police, >>>>>>>>> claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged
with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative.
Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to
sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering >>>>>>>>> sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Inevitable lawsuit, and she gets a $750,000 settlement. >>>>>>>>> Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her
settlement, not tacked on extra.
Most likely 30-40%, maybe more.
$350 grand
For a single case!
Which makes me wonder, do the plaintiffs in these cases shop >>>>>>> around, solicit quotes from lawyers?
~ Most plaintiff lawyers charge 33% (plus expenses ... like expert witness
fees) ... most plaintiffs watch television and see the commercials. >>>>>> [Lawyers that lose the case do not get anything and must pay for the
expenses themselves.]
An attorney will rarely take a case on a contingency fee unless they have a high degree of confidence they will win.
See if several attorneys will accept the case on contingency. If so, then hire a good attorney on retainer.
If someone can't afford a retainer fee (i.e. most people) then you have discovered a principle of the modern social structure: courtroom redress is for those who can afford it.
~ Sorry, risky, only defense attorneys work by the hour.
Really?
'The most common form of charging legal clients is through an hourly rate. Most attorneys charge a rate between $100 and $300 per hour. Top legal counsel, with a reputation for success in complex or highly visible cases, may charge more. Rates
https://attorneys.uslegal.com/attorney-fees/types-of-fee-arrangements/hourly-fees/
[Juries know
that an injured person only gets two thirds of the amount they award, if
they award anything.]
The tort system in the USA is broken but it not likely ever to be fixed
... even if it could be fixed.
~ risky, we were talking torts ...
.I didn't specify defense attorneys. What we were talking about was the OP. In the OP, the person in question was the plaintiff. No?Correct ... we were talking torts. Attorneys representing plaintiffs
work on contingency ... defense attorneys work by the hour. [We can
talk about how long an "hour" is another "time".]
That's not true. Countless tort cases are handled on an hourly billing basis by the plaintiff's lawyer..
On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 8:36:03 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:tend to be higher in major urban areas, and in matters requiring special legal expertise (e.g., admiralty, tax, patent law).'
On 12/18/2022 9:41 AM, BillB wrote:
On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 7:22:50 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
On 12/17/2022 1:06 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 7:20:10 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 12/16/2022 10:35 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:06:58 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>> On 12/16/2022 2:57 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 5:50:07 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 12/15/2022 4:35 PM, RichD wrote:
On December 14, risky biz wrote:
female motorist driving erratically, stopped by police, >>>>>>>>>>>>> claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged >>>>>>>>>>>>> with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative.
Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to >>>>>>>>>>>>> sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering >>>>>>>>>>>>> sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Inevitable lawsuit, and she gets a $750,000 settlement. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her >>>>>>>>>>>>> settlement, not tacked on extra.
Most likely 30-40%, maybe more.
$350 grand
For a single case!
Which makes me wonder, do the plaintiffs in these cases shop >>>>>>>>>>> around, solicit quotes from lawyers?
~ Most plaintiff lawyers charge 33% (plus expenses ... like expert witness
fees) ... most plaintiffs watch television and see the commercials. >>>>>>>>>> [Lawyers that lose the case do not get anything and must pay for the >>>>>>>>>> expenses themselves.]
An attorney will rarely take a case on a contingency fee unless they have a high degree of confidence they will win.
See if several attorneys will accept the case on contingency. If so, then hire a good attorney on retainer.
If someone can't afford a retainer fee (i.e. most people) then you have discovered a principle of the modern social structure: courtroom redress is for those who can afford it.
~ Sorry, risky, only defense attorneys work by the hour.
Really?
'The most common form of charging legal clients is through an hourly rate. Most attorneys charge a rate between $100 and $300 per hour. Top legal counsel, with a reputation for success in complex or highly visible cases, may charge more. Rates
.Correct ... we were talking torts. Attorneys representing plaintiffshttps://attorneys.uslegal.com/attorney-fees/types-of-fee-arrangements/hourly-fees/
[Juries know
that an injured person only gets two thirds of the amount they award, if
they award anything.]
The tort system in the USA is broken but it not likely ever to be fixed
... even if it could be fixed.
~ risky, we were talking torts ...
I didn't specify defense attorneys. What we were talking about was the OP. In the OP, the person in question was the plaintiff. No?
work on contingency ... defense attorneys work by the hour. [We can
talk about how long an "hour" is another "time".]
That's not true. Countless tort cases are handled on an hourly billing basis by the plaintiff's lawyer.
Maybe in Canada ....
But then again...
Maybe if the case is...
But some...
The crooked ones....
See?
On 12/18/2022 9:41 AM, BillB wrote:tend to be higher in major urban areas, and in matters requiring special legal expertise (e.g., admiralty, tax, patent law).'
On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 7:22:50 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
On 12/17/2022 1:06 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 7:20:10 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>> On 12/16/2022 10:35 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:06:58 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 12/16/2022 2:57 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 5:50:07 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>> On 12/15/2022 4:35 PM, RichD wrote:
On December 14, risky biz wrote:
female motorist driving erratically, stopped by police, >>>>>>>>>>> claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged >>>>>>>>>>> with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative.
Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to >>>>>>>>>>> sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering >>>>>>>>>>> sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Inevitable lawsuit, and she gets a $750,000 settlement. >>>>>>>>>>> Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her >>>>>>>>>>> settlement, not tacked on extra.
Most likely 30-40%, maybe more.
$350 grand
For a single case!
Which makes me wonder, do the plaintiffs in these cases shop >>>>>>>>> around, solicit quotes from lawyers?
~ Most plaintiff lawyers charge 33% (plus expenses ... like expert witness
fees) ... most plaintiffs watch television and see the commercials. >>>>>>>> [Lawyers that lose the case do not get anything and must pay for the
expenses themselves.]
An attorney will rarely take a case on a contingency fee unless they have a high degree of confidence they will win.
See if several attorneys will accept the case on contingency. If so, then hire a good attorney on retainer.
If someone can't afford a retainer fee (i.e. most people) then you have discovered a principle of the modern social structure: courtroom redress is for those who can afford it.
~ Sorry, risky, only defense attorneys work by the hour.
Really?
'The most common form of charging legal clients is through an hourly rate. Most attorneys charge a rate between $100 and $300 per hour. Top legal counsel, with a reputation for success in complex or highly visible cases, may charge more. Rates
.Correct ... we were talking torts. Attorneys representing plaintiffshttps://attorneys.uslegal.com/attorney-fees/types-of-fee-arrangements/hourly-fees/
[Juries know
that an injured person only gets two thirds of the amount they award, if
they award anything.]
The tort system in the USA is broken but it not likely ever to be fixed
... even if it could be fixed.
~ risky, we were talking torts ...
I didn't specify defense attorneys. What we were talking about was the OP. In the OP, the person in question was the plaintiff. No?
work on contingency ... defense attorneys work by the hour. [We can
talk about how long an "hour" is another "time".]
That's not true. Countless tort cases are handled on an hourly billing basis by the plaintiff's lawyer.
Maybe in Canada ....
But then again...
Maybe if the case is...
But some...
The crooked ones....
On 12/18/2022 10:45 AM, VegasJerry wrote:
On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 8:36:03 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
On 12/18/2022 9:41 AM, BillB wrote:.
On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 7:22:50 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
On 12/17/2022 1:06 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 7:20:10 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>> On 12/16/2022 10:35 PM, risky biz wrote:Correct ... we were talking torts. Attorneys representing plaintiffs >>>>> work on contingency ... defense attorneys work by the hour. [We can
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:06:58 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 12/16/2022 2:57 PM, risky biz wrote:
~ Sorry, risky, only defense attorneys work by the hour.On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 5:50:07 AM UTC-8, da pickle >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On 12/15/2022 4:35 PM, RichD wrote:
On December 14, risky biz wrote:
female motorist driving erratically, stopped by police, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Inevitable lawsuit, and she gets a $750,000 settlement. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her >>>>>>>>>>>>>> settlement, not tacked on extra.
Most likely 30-40%, maybe more.
$350 grand
For a single case!
Which makes me wonder, do the plaintiffs in these cases shop >>>>>>>>>>>> around, solicit quotes from lawyers?
~ Most plaintiff lawyers charge 33% (plus expenses ... like >>>>>>>>>> expert witness
fees) ... most plaintiffs watch television and see the
commercials.
[Lawyers that lose the case do not get anything and must pay >>>>>>>>>>> for the
expenses themselves.]
An attorney will rarely take a case on a contingency fee
unless they have a high degree of confidence they will win. >>>>>>>>>>
See if several attorneys will accept the case on contingency. >>>>>>>>>> If so, then hire a good attorney on retainer.
If someone can't afford a retainer fee (i.e. most people) then >>>>>>>>>> you have discovered a principle of the modern social
structure: courtroom redress is for those who can afford it. >>>>>>>>
Really?
'The most common form of charging legal clients is through an
hourly rate. Most attorneys charge a rate between $100 and $300 >>>>>>>> per hour. Top legal counsel, with a reputation for success in
complex or highly visible cases, may charge more. Rates tend to >>>>>>>> be higher in major urban areas, and in matters requiring special >>>>>>>> legal expertise (e.g., admiralty, tax, patent law).'
https://attorneys.uslegal.com/attorney-fees/types-of-fee-arrangements/hourly-fees/
[Juries know
that an injured person only gets two thirds of the amount they >>>>>>>>> award, if
they award anything.]
The tort system in the USA is broken but it not likely ever to >>>>>>>>> be fixed
... even if it could be fixed.
~ risky, we were talking torts ...
I didn't specify defense attorneys. What we were talking about was >>>>>> the OP. In the OP, the person in question was the plaintiff. No?
talk about how long an "hour" is another "time".]
That's not true. Countless tort cases are handled on an hourly
billing basis by the plaintiff's lawyer.
Maybe in Canada ....
But then again...
Maybe if the case is...
But some...
The crooked ones....
See?
Jerry and Billie sitting in a tree ... k i s s i n g
Get a life, Jerry
On 12/18/2022 9:41 AM, BillB wrote:tend to be higher in major urban areas, and in matters requiring special legal expertise (e.g., admiralty, tax, patent law).'
On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 7:22:50 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
On 12/17/2022 1:06 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 7:20:10 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>> On 12/16/2022 10:35 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:06:58 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 12/16/2022 2:57 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 5:50:07 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>> On 12/15/2022 4:35 PM, RichD wrote:
On December 14, risky biz wrote:
female motorist driving erratically, stopped by police, >>>>>>>>>>> claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged >>>>>>>>>>> with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative.
Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to >>>>>>>>>>> sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering >>>>>>>>>>> sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Inevitable lawsuit, and she gets a $750,000 settlement. >>>>>>>>>>> Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her >>>>>>>>>>> settlement, not tacked on extra.
Most likely 30-40%, maybe more.
$350 grand
For a single case!
Which makes me wonder, do the plaintiffs in these cases shop >>>>>>>>> around, solicit quotes from lawyers?
~ Most plaintiff lawyers charge 33% (plus expenses ... like expert witness
fees) ... most plaintiffs watch television and see the commercials. >>>>>>>> [Lawyers that lose the case do not get anything and must pay for the
expenses themselves.]
An attorney will rarely take a case on a contingency fee unless they have a high degree of confidence they will win.
See if several attorneys will accept the case on contingency. If so, then hire a good attorney on retainer.
If someone can't afford a retainer fee (i.e. most people) then you have discovered a principle of the modern social structure: courtroom redress is for those who can afford it.
~ Sorry, risky, only defense attorneys work by the hour.
Really?
'The most common form of charging legal clients is through an hourly rate. Most attorneys charge a rate between $100 and $300 per hour. Top legal counsel, with a reputation for success in complex or highly visible cases, may charge more. Rates
Correct ... we were talking torts. Attorneys representing plaintiffshttps://attorneys.uslegal.com/attorney-fees/types-of-fee-arrangements/hourly-fees/
[Juries know
that an injured person only gets two thirds of the amount they award, if
they award anything.]
The tort system in the USA is broken but it not likely ever to be fixed
... even if it could be fixed.
~ risky, we were talking torts ...
I didn't specify defense attorneys. What we were talking about was the OP. In the OP, the person in question was the plaintiff. No?
work on contingency ... defense attorneys work by the hour. [We can
talk about how long an "hour" is another "time".]
That's not true. Countless tort cases are handled on an hourly billing basis by the plaintiff's lawyer.Maybe in Canada ... but then again, how would "you" know.
Not in the USA. [OK ... maybe if the case is not worth the trouble,
someone might find some new lawyer to take it by the hour.]
All those signs along the highway ... those guys are all plaintiffs
lawyers begging for your case. They will all charge the same, but some
are much better than the others. The crooked ones make the most money.
On 12/18/2022 10:48 AM, da pickle wrote:
On 12/18/2022 10:45 AM, VegasJerry wrote:
On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 8:36:03 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
On 12/18/2022 9:41 AM, BillB wrote:.
On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 7:22:50 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
On 12/17/2022 1:06 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 7:20:10 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>> On 12/16/2022 10:35 PM, risky biz wrote:Correct ... we were talking torts. Attorneys representing plaintiffs >>>>> work on contingency ... defense attorneys work by the hour. [We can >>>>> talk about how long an "hour" is another "time".]
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:06:58 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 12/16/2022 2:57 PM, risky biz wrote:
~ Sorry, risky, only defense attorneys work by the hour.On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 5:50:07 AM UTC-8, da pickle >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On 12/15/2022 4:35 PM, RichD wrote:
On December 14, risky biz wrote:
female motorist driving erratically, stopped by police, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Inevitable lawsuit, and she gets a $750,000 settlement. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her >>>>>>>>>>>>>> settlement, not tacked on extra.
Most likely 30-40%, maybe more.
$350 grand
For a single case!
Which makes me wonder, do the plaintiffs in these cases shop >>>>>>>>>>>> around, solicit quotes from lawyers?
~ Most plaintiff lawyers charge 33% (plus expenses ... like >>>>>>>>>> expert witness
fees) ... most plaintiffs watch television and see the >>>>>>>>>>> commercials.
[Lawyers that lose the case do not get anything and must pay >>>>>>>>>>> for the
expenses themselves.]
An attorney will rarely take a case on a contingency fee >>>>>>>>>> unless they have a high degree of confidence they will win. >>>>>>>>>>
See if several attorneys will accept the case on contingency. >>>>>>>>>> If so, then hire a good attorney on retainer.
If someone can't afford a retainer fee (i.e. most people) then >>>>>>>>>> you have discovered a principle of the modern social
structure: courtroom redress is for those who can afford it. >>>>>>>>
Really?
'The most common form of charging legal clients is through an >>>>>>>> hourly rate. Most attorneys charge a rate between $100 and $300 >>>>>>>> per hour. Top legal counsel, with a reputation for success in >>>>>>>> complex or highly visible cases, may charge more. Rates tend to >>>>>>>> be higher in major urban areas, and in matters requiring special >>>>>>>> legal expertise (e.g., admiralty, tax, patent law).'
https://attorneys.uslegal.com/attorney-fees/types-of-fee-arrangements/hourly-fees/
[Juries know
that an injured person only gets two thirds of the amount they >>>>>>>>> award, if
they award anything.]
The tort system in the USA is broken but it not likely ever to >>>>>>>>> be fixed
... even if it could be fixed.
~ risky, we were talking torts ...
I didn't specify defense attorneys. What we were talking about was >>>>>> the OP. In the OP, the person in question was the plaintiff. No?
That's not true. Countless tort cases are handled on an hourly
billing basis by the plaintiff's lawyer.
Maybe in Canada ....
But then again...
Maybe if the case is...
But some...
The crooked ones....
See?
Jerry and Billie sitting in a tree ... k i s s i n g
Get a life, Jerry
Just one example ... search all you want
https://jminjurylawyer.com/blog/what-percentage-do-lawyers-take-for-personal-injury/
Jerry and Billie sitting in a tree ... k i s s i n g
On 12/18/2022 10:45 AM, VegasJerry wrote:tend to be higher in major urban areas, and in matters requiring special legal expertise (e.g., admiralty, tax, patent law).'
On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 8:36:03 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
On 12/18/2022 9:41 AM, BillB wrote:
On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 7:22:50 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
On 12/17/2022 1:06 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 7:20:10 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 12/16/2022 10:35 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:06:58 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>> On 12/16/2022 2:57 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 5:50:07 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 12/15/2022 4:35 PM, RichD wrote:
On December 14, risky biz wrote:
female motorist driving erratically, stopped by police, >>>>>>>>>>>>> claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged >>>>>>>>>>>>> with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to >>>>>>>>>>>>> sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering >>>>>>>>>>>>> sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Inevitable lawsuit, and she gets a $750,000 settlement. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her >>>>>>>>>>>>> settlement, not tacked on extra.
Most likely 30-40%, maybe more.
$350 grand
For a single case!
Which makes me wonder, do the plaintiffs in these cases shop >>>>>>>>>>> around, solicit quotes from lawyers?
~ Most plaintiff lawyers charge 33% (plus expenses ... like expert witness
fees) ... most plaintiffs watch television and see the commercials.
[Lawyers that lose the case do not get anything and must pay for the
expenses themselves.]
An attorney will rarely take a case on a contingency fee unless they have a high degree of confidence they will win.
See if several attorneys will accept the case on contingency. If so, then hire a good attorney on retainer.
If someone can't afford a retainer fee (i.e. most people) then you have discovered a principle of the modern social structure: courtroom redress is for those who can afford it.
~ Sorry, risky, only defense attorneys work by the hour.
Really?
'The most common form of charging legal clients is through an hourly rate. Most attorneys charge a rate between $100 and $300 per hour. Top legal counsel, with a reputation for success in complex or highly visible cases, may charge more. Rates
..Correct ... we were talking torts. Attorneys representing plaintiffs >>>> work on contingency ... defense attorneys work by the hour. [We can >>>> talk about how long an "hour" is another "time".]https://attorneys.uslegal.com/attorney-fees/types-of-fee-arrangements/hourly-fees/
[Juries know
that an injured person only gets two thirds of the amount they award, if
they award anything.]
The tort system in the USA is broken but it not likely ever to be fixed
... even if it could be fixed.
~ risky, we were talking torts ...
I didn't specify defense attorneys. What we were talking about was the OP. In the OP, the person in question was the plaintiff. No?
That's not true. Countless tort cases are handled on an hourly billing basis by the plaintiff's lawyer.
Maybe in Canada ....
But then again...
Maybe if the case is...
But some...
The crooked ones....
See?Jerry and Billie sitting in a tree ... k i s s i n g
Get a life, Jerry
On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 8:49:03 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
Jerry and Billie sitting in a tree ... k i s s i n gLOL! Says the guy who was just kissing the ass of a proud and admitted white nationalist and anti-Semite. You just can't make this stuff up.
On Sunday, 18 December 2022 at 20:16:01 UTC, BillB wrote:
On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 8:49:03 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
Do you think I would call myself a racist or an anti-Semite unironically?Jerry and Billie sitting in a tree ... k i s s i n gLOL! Says the guy who was just kissing the ass of a proud and admitted white nationalist and anti-Semite. You just can't make this stuff up.
Wait, don't answer that.. You *are* that stupid.
On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 7:57:05 PM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:
On Sunday, 18 December 2022 at 20:16:01 UTC, BillB wrote:
On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 8:49:03 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
Do you think I would call myself a racist or an anti-Semite unironically?Jerry and Billie sitting in a tree ... k i s s i n gLOL! Says the guy who was just kissing the ass of a proud and admitted white nationalist and anti-Semite. You just can't make this stuff up.
Wait, don't answer that.. You *are* that stupid.Why?
BTW, what happened to your white nationalist, anti-Semite hero Millennial Woes? He seems to have disappeared from the scene.
On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 8:32:11 PM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:
On Monday, 19 December 2022 at 04:21:49 UTC, BillB wrote:
On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 7:57:05 PM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:
On Sunday, 18 December 2022 at 20:16:01 UTC, BillB wrote:
On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 8:49:03 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
Do you think I would call myself a racist or an anti-Semite unironically?Jerry and Billie sitting in a tree ... k i s s i n gLOL! Says the guy who was just kissing the ass of a proud and admitted white nationalist and anti-Semite. You just can't make this stuff up.
Wow, I forgot how low your IQ is. The implied question was, "Why would you be surprised that I would believe you when you claimed to be a white nationalist anti-Semite?"Why what? Make some you sense you far left Canadian moron.Wait, don't answer that.. You *are* that stupid.Why?
BTW, what happened to your white nationalist, anti-Semite hero Millennial Woes? He seems to have disappeared from the scene.Yet Mellinniyule 8 (Eight) is going on right now.
Yes, he's "off the scene".. on censored platforms, e.g. Youtube, or anything you'd watch, you stupid cunt.Mellinniyule 8. LOLOLOL Good grief.
"Colin Robertson, known as Millennial Woes or simply Woes,[3][4] is a Scottish former YouTuber, white supremacist, and antisemitic conspiracy theorist.[5][6][7]"
So I am supposed to think you are being "ironic" when you claim to be a white nationalist, anti-Semite when your hero is one? Stop being ashamed of what you are, loser.
On Monday, 19 December 2022 at 04:21:49 UTC, BillB wrote:
On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 7:57:05 PM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:
On Sunday, 18 December 2022 at 20:16:01 UTC, BillB wrote:
On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 8:49:03 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
Do you think I would call myself a racist or an anti-Semite unironically?Jerry and Billie sitting in a tree ... k i s s i n gLOL! Says the guy who was just kissing the ass of a proud and admitted white nationalist and anti-Semite. You just can't make this stuff up.
Why what? Make some you sense you far left Canadian moron.Wait, don't answer that.. You *are* that stupid.Why?
BTW, what happened to your white nationalist, anti-Semite hero Millennial Woes? He seems to have disappeared from the scene.Yet Mellinniyule 8 (Eight) is going on right now.
Yes, he's "off the scene".. on censored platforms, e.g. Youtube, or anything you'd watch, you stupid cunt.
On Monday, 19 December 2022 at 04:39:30 UTC, BillB wrote:And imagine believing that the most famous black person in America is deplatformed, dehumanised and had billions wiped out by some powerless, persecuted minority.
On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 8:32:11 PM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:
On Monday, 19 December 2022 at 04:21:49 UTC, BillB wrote:
On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 7:57:05 PM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:
On Sunday, 18 December 2022 at 20:16:01 UTC, BillB wrote:
On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 8:49:03 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
Do you think I would call myself a racist or an anti-Semite unironically?Jerry and Billie sitting in a tree ... k i s s i n gLOL! Says the guy who was just kissing the ass of a proud and admitted white nationalist and anti-Semite. You just can't make this stuff up.
Because you're too stupid to understand, already said thatWow, I forgot how low your IQ is. The implied question was, "Why would you be surprised that I would believe you when you claimed to be a white nationalist anti-Semite?"Why what? Make some you sense you far left Canadian moron.Wait, don't answer that.. You *are* that stupid.Why?
BTW, what happened to your white nationalist, anti-Semite hero Millennial Woes? He seems to have disappeared from the scene.Yet Mellinniyule 8 (Eight) is going on right now.
Yes, he's "off the scene".. on censored platforms, e.g. Youtube, or anything you'd watch, you stupid cunt.Mellinniyule 8. LOLOLOL Good grief.
"Colin Robertson, known as Millennial Woes or simply Woes,[3][4] is a Scottish former YouTuber, white supremacist, and antisemitic conspiracy theorist.[5][6][7]"
So I am supposed to think you are being "ironic" when you claim to be a white nationalist, anti-Semite when your hero is one? Stop being ashamed of what you are, loser.Wow, a wiki link, I see that you're the same far left useless Canadian cunt that you've always been.
On December 14, risky biz wrote:
female motorist driving erratically, stopped by police,
claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged
with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative.
Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to
sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering
sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Inevitable lawsuit, and she gets a $750,000 settlement.
Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her
settlement, not tacked on extra.
Most likely 30-40%, maybe more.$350 grand
For a single case!
Which makes me wonder, do the plaintiffs in these cases shop
around, solicit quotes from lawyers?
--
Rich
On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 4:35:41 PM UTC-6, RichD wrote:docs. The story goes that the head of this firm would go to Vegas. If he had a bunch of markers to settle when he returned the word went out to settle cases. He needed the cash to pay the markers.
On December 14, risky biz wrote:
$350 grandfemale motorist driving erratically, stopped by police,
claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged
with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative.
Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to
sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering
sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Inevitable lawsuit, and she gets a $750,000 settlement.
Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her
settlement, not tacked on extra.
Most likely 30-40%, maybe more.
For a single case!
Which makes me wonder, do the plaintiffs in these cases shop
around, solicit quotes from lawyers?
--
Rich
I had a buddy who went to law school. He came back to Chicago in the summers to work for a PI attorney. One of his duties was bag man to pay off the chasers... the people who brought in the business. I don't remember if he dealt with any of the
C
On 12/23/2022 9:46 AM, C Mayhem wrote:The story goes that the head of this firm would go to Vegas. If he had a bunch of markers to settle when he returned the word went out to settle cases. He needed the cash to pay the markers.
On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 4:35:41 PM UTC-6, RichD wrote:
On December 14, risky biz wrote:
$350 grandfemale motorist driving erratically, stopped by police,
claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged
with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative.
Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to
sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering
sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Inevitable lawsuit, and she gets a $750,000 settlement.
Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her
settlement, not tacked on extra.
Most likely 30-40%, maybe more.
For a single case!
Which makes me wonder, do the plaintiffs in these cases shop
around, solicit quotes from lawyers?
--
Rich
I had a buddy who went to law school. He came back to Chicago in the summers to work for a PI attorney. One of his duties was bag man to pay off the chasers... the people who brought in the business. I don't remember if he dealt with any of the docs.
CThere are honest lawyers ... many of them advertise their firms. It is likely impossible for the general public to find out which is which.
Same thing for politicians, except there are likely more questionable politicians than lawyers, but who knows for sure. Maybe Blab knows everything there is to know about lawyers in the USA.
On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 8:03:33 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:The story goes that the head of this firm would go to Vegas. If he had a bunch of markers to settle when he returned the word went out to settle cases. He needed the cash to pay the markers.
On 12/23/2022 9:46 AM, C Mayhem wrote:
On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 4:35:41 PM UTC-6, RichD wrote:
On December 14, risky biz wrote:
$350 grandfemale motorist driving erratically, stopped by police,
claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged
with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative.
Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to
sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering
sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Inevitable lawsuit, and she gets a $750,000 settlement.
Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her
settlement, not tacked on extra.
Most likely 30-40%, maybe more.
For a single case!
Which makes me wonder, do the plaintiffs in these cases shop
around, solicit quotes from lawyers?
--
Rich
I had a buddy who went to law school. He came back to Chicago in the summers to work for a PI attorney. One of his duties was bag man to pay off the chasers... the people who brought in the business. I don't remember if he dealt with any of the docs.
fairness, I don't think you would encounter much tort law with a practice focusing on mudbug pond leases.There are honest lawyers ... many of them advertise their firms. It is
C
likely impossible for the general public to find out which is which.
Same thing for politicians, except there are likely more questionable
politicians than lawyers, but who knows for sure. Maybe Blab knows
everything there is to know about lawyers in the USA.
No, I do not know everything. I top out at about 98%. I obviously know far more than you though, as you didn't even know that MANY tort cases are handled on an hourly billing basis, which is VERY basic knowledge. That basic fact eluded you but, in
On 12/23/2022 9:46 AM, C Mayhem wrote:The story goes that the head of this firm would go to Vegas. If he had a bunch of markers to settle when he returned the word went out to settle cases. He needed the cash to pay the markers.
On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 4:35:41 PM UTC-6, RichD wrote:
On December 14, risky biz wrote:
$350 grandfemale motorist driving erratically, stopped by police,
claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged
with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative.
Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to
sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering
sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Inevitable lawsuit, and she gets a $750,000 settlement.
Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her
settlement, not tacked on extra.
Most likely 30-40%, maybe more.
For a single case!
Which makes me wonder, do the plaintiffs in these cases shop
around, solicit quotes from lawyers?
--
Rich
I had a buddy who went to law school. He came back to Chicago in the summers to work for a PI attorney. One of his duties was bag man to pay off the chasers... the people who brought in the business. I don't remember if he dealt with any of the docs.
People love to hate lawyers until they need one. It's just a trade. This was in the 80s. Pretty sure, at the time, lawyers could not advertise. That's why you needed to pay off chasers to bring in PI clients, whether legitimate or not. Of courseCThere are honest lawyers ... many of them advertise their firms. It is likely impossible for the general public to find out which is which.
Same thing for politicians, except there are likely more questionable politicians than lawyers, but who knows for sure. Maybe Blab knows everything there is to know about lawyers in the USA.
On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 10:03:33 AM UTC-6, da pickle wrote:docs. The story goes that the head of this firm would go to Vegas. If he had a bunch of markers to settle when he returned the word went out to settle cases. He needed the cash to pay the markers.
On 12/23/2022 9:46 AM, C Mayhem wrote:
On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 4:35:41 PM UTC-6, RichD wrote:
On December 14, risky biz wrote:
$350 grandfemale motorist driving erratically, stopped by police,
claims she is very ill. Fails a sobriety test, charged
with DUI, even though the breathalyzer is negative.
Spends a night in jail, deteriorates, pigs tell her to
sleep it off. Next day, she's to the hospital, suffering
sepsis, a life threatening infection.
Inevitable lawsuit, and she gets a $750,000 settlement.
Her attorney's fee is... guess? It's deducted from her
settlement, not tacked on extra.
Most likely 30-40%, maybe more.
For a single case!
Which makes me wonder, do the plaintiffs in these cases shop
around, solicit quotes from lawyers?
--
Rich
I had a buddy who went to law school. He came back to Chicago in the summers to work for a PI attorney. One of his duties was bag man to pay off the chasers... the people who brought in the business. I don't remember if he dealt with any of the
the chasers was verbotten also, which necessitated the bag man and under the table cash payments to said chasers. Now PI attorneys advertise all over the airwaves and on every billboard. The adverts are ubiquitous and fucking inescapable. The buddyPeople love to hate lawyers until they need one. It's just a trade. This was in the 80s. Pretty sure, at the time, lawyers could not advertise. That's why you needed to pay off chasers to bring in PI clients, whether legitimate or not. Of course payingCThere are honest lawyers ... many of them advertise their firms. It is likely impossible for the general public to find out which is which.
Same thing for politicians, except there are likely more questionable politicians than lawyers, but who knows for sure. Maybe Blab knows everything there is to know about lawyers in the USA.
Maybe 15 years ago I got called for Jury duty. Not the first time, but this was at a particularly inconvenient time. I was scheduled for an overdue vacation to Mexico in a week and I needed to get things done at my business... Not getting that stuffdone would cost me and my business thousands of dollars. I explained this to the judge and the attorneys during the selection process. They didn't give a fuck. They selected me anyway. I did my duty and got a check that didn't cover my train fare and
C.
People love to hate lawyers until they need one. It's just a trade. This was in the 80s.
Pretty sure, at the time, lawyers could not advertise. That's why you needed to pay off chasers
to bring in PI clients, whether legitimate or not. Of course paying the chasers was verbotten also,
Now PI attorneys advertise all over the airwaves and on every billboard.
On December 24, drwhod...@gmail.com wrote:
> People love to hate lawyers until they need one. It's just a trade. This was in the 80s.
Pretty sure, at the time, lawyers could not advertise. That's why you needed to pay off chasers
to bring in PI clients, whether legitimate or not. Of course paying the chasers was verbotten also,
Now PI attorneys advertise all over the airwaves and on every billboard.
I saw an ad recently, on the side of a bus: "Motorcycle injury? Call ... "
Is there really a demand for such a specialty, that this lawyer can make a living?
--
Rich
And, latest on FTX, the kid's parents are under scrutiny,
aiding and abetting, probably.
They're professors at Stanford law school! Dad
specializes in tax law, expert on the so-called
'loop holes'. A pretty handy counselor for his cub's
venture, incorporated in Bahamas.
When the FTX collapsed, they hustled out to
Bahamas to return the deed on their $15 million
chalet, to FTX. hmmmm... if someone is legal owner,
why would he return the property?
Anyway, story is he hired some criminal attorneys.
A colleague said he might be bankrupted.
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