• History of creeper

    From Juniper@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 26 19:35:58 2023
    I'm wondering if anyone knows where any publicly accessible versions of the sources from https://corewar.co.uk/creeper.htm are?
    I'm doing a research project on the history of computer malware and i'm looking specifically for "Kirk, Kelley E, ed. Transcription of All ARC Meeting 3 November 1972. California: Stanford Research Institute, Dec 1972." or "Shoch, John F. and John A.
    Hupp. Notes on the "Worm" programs -- some early experience with a distributed computation. California: Xerox Corporation, May 1980."

    So very sorry if this is not the right place to ask! if so could you direct me to a better place? Thank you!!

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  • From John Metcalf@21:1/5 to Juniper on Mon Feb 27 16:56:53 2023
    On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 19:35:58 -0800, Juniper wrote:

    I'm wondering if anyone knows where any publicly accessible versions of
    the sources from https://corewar.co.uk/creeper.htm are?
    I'm doing a research project on the history of computer malware and i'm looking specifically for "Kirk, Kelley E, ed. Transcription of All ARC Meeting 3 November 1972. California: Stanford Research Institute, Dec
    1972." or "Shoch, John F. and John A. Hupp. Notes on the "Worm" programs
    -- some early experience with a distributed computation. California:
    Xerox Corporation, May 1980."

    So very sorry if this is not the right place to ask! if so could you
    direct me to a better place? Thank you!!

    Hi,

    There are two versions of Notes on the Worm Programs available here:

    * https://archive.org/details/bitsavers_xeroxaltoermProgramsSep80_1334681/ mode/2up

    * https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download? doi=10.1.1.137.9511&rep=rep1&type=pdf

    I can't find the transcript, but I think it was on computerhistory.org.
    It's only a brief mention, but significant because it's the earliest
    reference to Creeper. It also has a vague comment about an earlier worm, possibly the Fortran worm written by Gregory Benford (author of Timescape)
    in 1969. I'll check to see if I have a local copy.

    If you discover any more early references, I'd be interested to hear.
    Also note, there are multiple sources which mention computer viruses in
    the 1970s - the term wasn't coined at USC in the mid-80s.

    John

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  • From Juniper@21:1/5 to Juniper on Mon Feb 27 12:49:20 2023
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 3:47:10 PM UTC-5, Juniper wrote:
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 11:56:56 AM UTC-5, John Metcalf wrote:
    On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 19:35:58 -0800, Juniper wrote:

    I'm wondering if anyone knows where any publicly accessible versions of the sources from https://corewar.co.uk/creeper.htm are?
    I'm doing a research project on the history of computer malware and i'm looking specifically for "Kirk, Kelley E, ed. Transcription of All ARC Meeting 3 November 1972. California: Stanford Research Institute, Dec 1972." or "Shoch, John F. and John A. Hupp. Notes on the "Worm" programs -- some early experience with a distributed computation. California: Xerox Corporation, May 1980."

    So very sorry if this is not the right place to ask! if so could you direct me to a better place? Thank you!!
    Hi,

    There are two versions of Notes on the Worm Programs available here:

    * https://archive.org/details/bitsavers_xeroxaltoermProgramsSep80_1334681/ mode/2up

    * https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download? doi=10.1.1.137.9511&rep=rep1&type=pdf

    I can't find the transcript, but I think it was on computerhistory.org. It's only a brief mention, but significant because it's the earliest reference to Creeper. It also has a vague comment about an earlier worm, possibly the Fortran worm written by Gregory Benford (author of Timescape) in 1969. I'll check to see if I have a local copy.

    If you discover any more early references, I'd be interested to hear.
    Also note, there are multiple sources which mention computer viruses in the 1970s - the term wasn't coined at USC in the mid-80s.

    John
    Wow! thank you!! i've looked at something on computer history.org, but it seems to be from 1973 onwards and doesn't contain the 1972 transcript.
    https://users.soe.ucsc.edu/~sbrandt/221/Papers/Dist/shoch-cacm82.pdf seems to have the Paper published in a magazine as another source.

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  • From Juniper@21:1/5 to John Metcalf on Mon Feb 27 12:47:08 2023
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 11:56:56 AM UTC-5, John Metcalf wrote:
    On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 19:35:58 -0800, Juniper wrote:

    I'm wondering if anyone knows where any publicly accessible versions of the sources from https://corewar.co.uk/creeper.htm are?
    I'm doing a research project on the history of computer malware and i'm looking specifically for "Kirk, Kelley E, ed. Transcription of All ARC Meeting 3 November 1972. California: Stanford Research Institute, Dec 1972." or "Shoch, John F. and John A. Hupp. Notes on the "Worm" programs -- some early experience with a distributed computation. California:
    Xerox Corporation, May 1980."

    So very sorry if this is not the right place to ask! if so could you direct me to a better place? Thank you!!
    Hi,

    There are two versions of Notes on the Worm Programs available here:

    * https://archive.org/details/bitsavers_xeroxaltoermProgramsSep80_1334681/ mode/2up

    * https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download? doi=10.1.1.137.9511&rep=rep1&type=pdf

    I can't find the transcript, but I think it was on computerhistory.org.
    It's only a brief mention, but significant because it's the earliest reference to Creeper. It also has a vague comment about an earlier worm, possibly the Fortran worm written by Gregory Benford (author of Timescape) in 1969. I'll check to see if I have a local copy.

    If you discover any more early references, I'd be interested to hear.
    Also note, there are multiple sources which mention computer viruses in
    the 1970s - the term wasn't coined at USC in the mid-80s.

    John

    Wow! thank you!! i've looked at something on computer history.org, but it seems to be from 1973 onwards and doesn't contain the 1972 transcript.

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