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  • Hydra / Return of the Living Dead

    From Stephen Gunnell@21:1/5 to John Metcalf on Thu Nov 19 20:22:13 2020
    On Thursday, 19 November 2020 at 10:47:03 pm UTC+8, John Metcalf wrote:
    Hi,

    I haven't had much luck on the 94 hills, but managed to enter the 88 hill with a RotLD-style warrior with 8 binary launched anti-imp clears:

    spl 0, <2
    mov 0, <1
    djn -2, #-5

    I wonder if there's anything similar for the limited-process hill.

    There's also Hordes of Microwarriors which continuously launches clears.
    I used a version of this in Cloudburst which did okay on the 94nop hill.

    https://users.obs.carnegiescience.edu/birk/COREWAR/88/HILL/
    smallbombers.red

    John
    On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 14:22:51 -0800, Stephen Gunnell wrote:

    On Monday, 16 November 2020 at 5:37:01 pm UTC+8, John Metcalf wrote:
    Hi,

    Are there any other warriors similar to Hydra and the Living Dead
    series which launch multiple copies of very similar tiny bombers /
    clears.

    Thanks,

    John
    I have had a number of those but they haven't gone anywhere because of disappointing performance. Most of my paper optimisers have the
    possibility to plug in a stone as the end strategy but again they always get de-selected. I've tried randomly placed and synchronously placed.
    I've also tried variable step patterns. But in the end they are no
    better at killing than a single bomber but a lot more vulnerable to
    papers and scanners.
    Steveg

    It has made #1 on the 88 hill, well done!
    I'll have to throw some optimiser cycles at Hydra/RotLD to see if I can make anything of them. :)
    Steveg

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  • From John Metcalf@21:1/5 to Stephen Gunnell on Tue Dec 8 23:45:43 2020
    On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 20:22:13 -0800, Stephen Gunnell wrote:

    It has made #1 on the 88 hill, well done!
    I'll have to throw some optimiser cycles at Hydra/RotLD to see if I can
    make anything of them. :)
    Steveg

    Thanks. I'm really pleased to see how well it performed. It's been ~25
    years since there's been a Hydra-style warrior on the hill so it's
    interesting to see they're still viable.

    I found another couple of warriors which launch multiple small bombers / clears:

    http://para.inria.fr/~doligez/corewar/rc/Paratroopsv1.2.txt

    and possibly the earliest example:

    http://para.inria.fr/~doligez/corewar/post/QUARTER.txt

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  • From Stephen Gunnell@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 23 15:30:47 2020
    So I've been playing with using the binary launch. Hydroid uses 7 or 8 copies of a 3 line clear in various configurations and hasn't gone anywhere.
    Lithobolia uses a 4 line stone with a paper and is more successful.
    Lithobolia C phrl uses 7 copies of a spl -1 stone and a 6 process paper that drops 5pt vortex launchers.
    But the real bonus for me was the qscan! It makes some of my struggling warriors viable. I don't think i'm using your step sizes anywhere, Lithobolia C phrl uses a qstep of 1246 for example.

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