• Re: The SECOND oldest roleplaying game

    From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to gmkeros@gmail.com on Tue Feb 6 04:30:50 2024
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    gmkeros@gmail.com wrote:

    We were joking around on Mastodon about posting slightly wrong
    information to get people to interact, when I remembered this particular
    gem from Peterson's site: Rules for the Game of DUNGEON (1974) is likely
    the second roleplaying game ever published, and the author did so
    without knowing of the existence of Dungeons and Dragons.

    Was FANTASY ROLE PLAYING before or after D&D?

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to kyonshi on Tue Feb 6 08:19:56 2024
    On 1/19/2024 8:58 AM, kyonshi wrote:
    We were joking around on Mastodon about posting slightly wrong
    information to get people to interact, when I remembered this particular
    gem from Peterson's site: Rules for the Game of DUNGEON (1974) is likely
    the second roleplaying game ever published, and the author did so
    without knowing of the existence of Dungeons and Dragons.
    It was likely not someone coming up with the idea independently though,
    a local gamer had played with Dave Arneson's group before and brought
    the concept to Minneapolis. The author of DUNGEON Craig VanGrasstek
    collected the variants into a ruleset and published them to share with
    the wider world. But of course the existence of DnD brought all that to
    an end.
    I wonder if other variants were around at the time as well.

    http://playingattheworld.blogspot.com/2012/08/rules-to-game-of-dungeon-1974.html

    and here is a copy of the rules as pdf

    http://playingattheworld.blogspot.com/2014/08/1974-dungeon-variant-now-for-download.html

    Does anyone have some more information about that old Minneapolis scene?

    Empire of the Petal Throne was published originally (only 50 copies,
    self published) in 1974 as well. Closest I've been able to find for a
    time in the year is "spring" so probably predates DUNGEON.

    That first print is available in PDF

    https://preview.drivethrurpg.com/en/product/99646/empire-of-the-petal-throne-original-manuscript

    The author is from England though, not Minneapolis as far as I can tell.

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