• let's re-populate this newsgroup

    From ~lkh@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 26 10:49:35 2022
    Hey, anyone reading here?

    I just posted a call to action over on mastodon:

    https://tabletop.social/web/@wandererbill/108713232989174473

    It's an experiment, I guess :D

    Cheers!

    --
    lkh@sdfeu.org
    SDF-EU Public Access UNIX System - http://sdfeu.org

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  • From Eric Gillespie@21:1/5 to lkh@sdf-eu.org on Tue Jul 26 11:03:47 2022
    lkh@sdf-eu.org (~lkh) writes:

    Hey, anyone reading here?

    Lurkers unite!

    I just posted a call to action over on mastodon:

    https://tabletop.social/web/@wandererbill/108713232989174473

    It's an experiment, I guess :D

    I starred and shared. Hope springs eternal...

    (I was a GURPS GM for many years, don't think I
    ever posted here though.)

    --
    Eric Gillespie <*> epg@pretzelnet.org

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  • From Lafe@21:1/5 to lkh@sdf-eu.org on Tue Jul 26 21:02:34 2022
    lkh@sdf-eu.org (~lkh) wrote in news:tbogrv$ug1$1@gioia.aioe.org:

    Hey, anyone reading here?

    I just posted a call to action over on mastodon:

    https://tabletop.social/web/@wandererbill/108713232989174473

    It's an experiment, I guess :D

    Cheers!

    I'm still reading here. Would love to see this place get more active!

    Lafe

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  • From CBRPunk@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 26 17:37:57 2022
    On 7/26/2022 6:49 AM, ~lkh wrote:
    Hey, anyone reading here?

    I just posted a call to action over on mastodon:

    https://tabletop.social/web/@wandererbill/108713232989174473

    It's an experiment, I guess :D

    Cheers!

    I'm in the lurker camp (here, rec.games.frp.dnd, rec.games.frp.gurps,
    and a few alt.games.frp groups), along with some others unrelated to games.

    I'll try to post here too, instead of just on mastodon or my blog.

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  • From ~lkh@21:1/5 to Eric Gillespie on Tue Jul 26 21:46:06 2022
    Eric Gillespie <epg@pretzelnet.org> wrote:
    lkh@sdf-eu.org (~lkh) writes:

    Hey, anyone reading here?

    Lurkers unite!

    Woohoooo!!!


    I starred and shared. Hope springs eternal...

    we'll see XD


    (I was a GURPS GM for many years, don't think I
    ever posted here though.)


    Cool, I'm going to run a second session of DF Adventure 3: "Deep
    Night and the Star", this upcoming friday. I haven't run a lot of
    GURPS so far, but it kind of amazes me every time.

    Yay!

    --
    lkh@sdfeu.org
    SDF-EU Public Access UNIX System - http://sdfeu.org

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  • From ~lkh@21:1/5 to Lafe on Tue Jul 26 21:47:34 2022
    Lafe <lafe@lafes.invalid> wrote:
    I'm still reading here. Would love to see this place get more active!

    so, what do we do? Some kind of #introductions thread?

    lkh

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    lkh@sdfeu.org
    SDF-EU Public Access UNIX System - http://sdfeu.org

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  • From ~lkh@21:1/5 to CBRPunk on Tue Jul 26 21:49:45 2022
    CBRPunk <cbrpunk@hotmail.com> wrote:
    I'm in the lurker camp (here, rec.games.frp.dnd, rec.games.frp.gurps,
    and a few alt.games.frp groups), along with some others unrelated to games.

    Ah, cool, I didn't know about the alt.games.frp groupsi, will have a look.

    I'll try to post here too, instead of just on mastodon or my blog.

    yay, please do!

    lkh

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    lkh@sdfeu.org
    SDF-EU Public Access UNIX System - http://sdfeu.org

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  • From Arnaud Gomes@21:1/5 to lkh@sdf-eu.org on Tue Aug 2 23:12:16 2022
    lkh@sdf-eu.org (~lkh) writes:

    Hey, anyone reading here?

    Yep, still around. :-)

    --
    Arnaud
    http://blogs.glou.org/arnaud/

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  • From Laurens Kils-Huetten@21:1/5 to Arnaud Gomes on Wed Aug 3 05:04:14 2022
    Arnaud Gomes <nono-posting-on-usenet+rgfm@oook.fr> wrote:
    lkh@sdf-eu.org (~lkh) writes:

    Hey, anyone reading here?

    Yep, still around. :-)

    Hey Nono,

    good to see you over here ;-)

    I'll try to post something interesting eventually.

    lkh



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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 19 07:40:18 2022
    On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 3:49:37 AM UTC-7, ~lkh wrote:
    Hey, anyone reading here?

    I just posted a call to action over on mastodon:

    https://tabletop.social/web/@wandererbill/108713232989174473

    It's an experiment, I guess :D

    Cheers!

    --
    l...@sdfeu.org
    SDF-EU Public Access UNIX System - http://sdfeu.org

    I was just thinking randomly I should check here. Glad to see more than one person as I still post rarely to RGFD, but it's dead dead.

    - Justisaur

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  • From Lafe@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Mon Aug 22 11:41:29 2022
    Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote in news:6df213d3-745b-4dd6-8b76-4339f3a2078bn@googlegroups.com:

    I was just thinking randomly I should check here. Glad to see more than
    one person as I still post rarely to RGFD, but it's dead dead.

    - Justisaur

    I mean, it's only as dead as we allow it to be.

    Lafe

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  • From JG@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 28 15:52:08 2022
    On 26/07/2022 12:49, ~lkh wrote:
    Hey, anyone reading here?

    I just posted a call to action over on mastodon:

    https://tabletop.social/web/@wandererbill/108713232989174473

    It's an experiment, I guess :D

    Cheers!


    Oh wow, I don't read this group for like a year and all of a sudden
    there's stuff here.

    I guess I should try to boost that Mastodon post as well. Or maybe not, considering the audience by this point is drastically different.

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to gmk...@gmail.com on Mon Nov 28 10:29:23 2022
    On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 6:52:10 AM UTC-8, gmk...@gmail.com wrote:
    On 26/07/2022 12:49, ~lkh wrote:
    Hey, anyone reading here?

    I just posted a call to action over on mastodon:

    https://tabletop.social/web/@wandererbill/108713232989174473

    It's an experiment, I guess :D

    Cheers!

    Oh wow, I don't read this group for like a year and all of a sudden
    there's stuff here.

    I guess I should try to boost that Mastodon post as well. Or maybe not, considering the audience by this point is drastically different.

    2 months between activity isn't exactly alive.

    Though my virtual 'tabletop' gaming is about as alive. :(

    - Justisaur

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  • From kyonshi@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Tue Nov 29 10:30:49 2022
    On 28/11/2022 19:29, Justisaur wrote:
    On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 6:52:10 AM UTC-8, gmk...@gmail.com wrote:
    On 26/07/2022 12:49, ~lkh wrote:
    Hey, anyone reading here?

    I just posted a call to action over on mastodon:

    https://tabletop.social/web/@wandererbill/108713232989174473

    It's an experiment, I guess :D

    Cheers!

    Oh wow, I don't read this group for like a year and all of a sudden
    there's stuff here.

    I guess I should try to boost that Mastodon post as well. Or maybe not,
    considering the audience by this point is drastically different.

    2 months between activity isn't exactly alive.

    Though my virtual 'tabletop' gaming is about as alive. :(

    - Justisaur


    I have mostly seen usenet after it's glory days, so 2 months is like
    bustling with activity here. :D

    I actually haven't played a proper game since early in the pandemic.
    After a few tries over Discord I noticed that just making time to be
    able to play was a chore with kids around.

    I really should start something again, but I might be a bit stuck in my
    ways right now.

    The only roleplaying I did was introducing my kid to it. He normally
    tries to gang up with the orcs and steal all the treasures in the dungeon.

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to gmk...@gmail.com on Wed Nov 30 09:45:19 2022
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 1:30:52 AM UTC-8, gmk...@gmail.com wrote:
    On 28/11/2022 19:29, Justisaur wrote:
    On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 6:52:10 AM UTC-8, gmk...@gmail.com wrote:
    On 26/07/2022 12:49, ~lkh wrote:
    Hey, anyone reading here?

    I just posted a call to action over on mastodon:

    https://tabletop.social/web/@wandererbill/108713232989174473

    It's an experiment, I guess :D

    Cheers!

    Oh wow, I don't read this group for like a year and all of a sudden
    there's stuff here.

    I guess I should try to boost that Mastodon post as well. Or maybe not,
    considering the audience by this point is drastically different.

    2 months between activity isn't exactly alive.

    Though my virtual 'tabletop' gaming is about as alive. :(

    - Justisaur

    I have mostly seen usenet after it's glory days, so 2 months is like
    bustling with activity here. :D

    Usenet was 'dying' when I joined, but it was pretty bustling in the
    groups I was following. RGFD sometimes had hundreds of posts in some
    threads within days, and I couldn't keep up with all of it. The only
    one I'm in with much left going on with posts almost every day is comp.sys.ibm.pc.gaming.action. The monthly 'what have you been playing
    this month' threads are usually pretty active. The Elden Ring thread
    reached over a hundred posts too. No one limits it to action any more
    though, any pc gaming, and even a little console/mobile has leaked in,
    and even a touch of tabletop once in a blue moon. The monthly thread
    typically has a bit of neighbor like non-gaming updates too.


    I actually haven't played a proper game since early in the pandemic.
    After a few tries over Discord I noticed that just making time to be
    able to play was a chore with kids around.

    I really should start something again, but I might be a bit stuck in my
    ways right now.

    Same here, kids. I tried discord with r20 with the locals, wow that
    was over a year ago now! It went a bit too late and I kept falling
    asleep, it was also 5e D&D which I find slow and boring which didn't
    help with the falling asleep. I never used to fall asleep at games,
    even in my college days when they'd go to morning, but I'm getting on
    in years.

    I also tried running some PBP. I did get a couple months running
    FASERIP a couple months ago. It's was fun, but I was having trouble
    coming up with things to do, and finding reading modules and sources
    too boring.

    I keep thinking of trying some AD&D on PBP again as I'm intimately
    familiar and could run that off the top of my head endlessly, but I've
    tried in the past and players just don't give me enough info eventually
    and it peters out.

    My favorite was before covid when I ran some chat D&D & Mutant Future
    (Gamma World clone) games on roll20, that was voice though, and
    scheduling was rough again. Getting people for text chat seems to be
    more difficult now. Also my last one imploded spectacularly due to
    some conflicts amongst players and playstyles.


    The only roleplaying I did was introducing my kid to it. He normally
    tries to gang up with the orcs and steal all the treasures in the dungeon.

    Awesome! I tried a little with the kids right before covid, didn't get
    very far. My son doesn't want to play, even though he was a natural.
    My daughter does, but she wasn't far enough along to do much last
    time. Also we moved into a small space temporarily 2 years ago, the
    it's really cramped, there's nowhere I could put a battlemat down any
    more, which I prefer to play with. I was going to try to run Star Wars original d6 for them, as my son reluctantly agreed to try that, but I
    couldn't even get through the book myself.

    - Justisaur

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  • From kyonshi@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Wed Nov 30 20:02:47 2022
    On 30/11/2022 18:45, Justisaur wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 1:30:52 AM UTC-8, gmk...@gmail.com wrote:
    On 28/11/2022 19:29, Justisaur wrote:
    On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 6:52:10 AM UTC-8, gmk...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> On 26/07/2022 12:49, ~lkh wrote:
    Hey, anyone reading here?

    I just posted a call to action over on mastodon:

    https://tabletop.social/web/@wandererbill/108713232989174473

    It's an experiment, I guess :D

    Cheers!

    Oh wow, I don't read this group for like a year and all of a sudden
    there's stuff here.

    I guess I should try to boost that Mastodon post as well. Or maybe not, >>>> considering the audience by this point is drastically different.

    2 months between activity isn't exactly alive.

    Though my virtual 'tabletop' gaming is about as alive. :(

    - Justisaur

    I have mostly seen usenet after it's glory days, so 2 months is like
    bustling with activity here. :D

    Usenet was 'dying' when I joined, but it was pretty bustling in the
    groups I was following. RGFD sometimes had hundreds of posts in some
    threads within days, and I couldn't keep up with all of it. The only
    one I'm in with much left going on with posts almost every day is comp.sys.ibm.pc.gaming.action. The monthly 'what have you been playing
    this month' threads are usually pretty active. The Elden Ring thread
    reached over a hundred posts too. No one limits it to action any more though, any pc gaming, and even a little console/mobile has leaked in,
    and even a touch of tabletop once in a blue moon. The monthly thread typically has a bit of neighbor like non-gaming updates too

    Every time I come back it's a bit less than before. rec.games.frp.dnd
    used to be more or less active, but even that seems a bit slow right
    now. Maybe I should check on comp.sys.ibm.pc.gaming.action as well.



    Same here, kids. I tried discord with r20 with the locals, wow that
    was over a year ago now! It went a bit too late and I kept falling
    asleep, it was also 5e D&D which I find slow and boring which didn't
    help with the falling asleep. I never used to fall asleep at games,
    even in my college days when they'd go to morning, but I'm getting on
    in years.

    I think 5e must be quite nice as a game, but it really isn't what I want
    to be playing. I am more into the whole OSR thing with faster and more
    minimal rules. I got burned out on 3rd edition at one point and just
    don't want to spend time grokking three giant books anymore.


    My favorite was before covid when I ran some chat D&D & Mutant Future
    (Gamma World clone) games on roll20, that was voice though, and
    scheduling was rough again. Getting people for text chat seems to be
    more difficult now. Also my last one imploded spectacularly due to
    some conflicts amongst players and playstyles.

    My last campaign I noticed that they expected Critical Role and got.
    Well. Labyrinth Lord Keep on the Borderlands. It went over well, but
    thue pandemic killed that. I noticed I have to make allowances for the
    fact that players now are coming with preconceived notions of how play
    works, even if they never played before.


    The only roleplaying I did was introducing my kid to it. He normally
    tries to gang up with the orcs and steal all the treasures in the dungeon.

    Awesome! I tried a little with the kids right before covid, didn't get
    very far. My son doesn't want to play, even though he was a natural.
    My daughter does, but she wasn't far enough along to do much last
    time. Also we moved into a small space temporarily 2 years ago, the
    it's really cramped, there's nowhere I could put a battlemat down any
    more, which I prefer to play with. I was going to try to run Star Wars original d6 for them, as my son reluctantly agreed to try that, but I couldn't even get through the book myself.

    I think it helps that I was using both my old HeroQuest copy and some
    terrain from Mantic Games for that. Also a few assorted minis. I think
    the whole physicality is something kids really respond to. I remember I
    was completely smitten with HeroQuest at the same age, when I saw it at
    my best friend's house, even though I didn't have a clue how it worked
    (and quickly found it to be way too limited to what I wanted to do).

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  • From news@zzo38computer.org.invalid@21:1/5 to kyonshi on Wed Nov 30 11:01:35 2022
    kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
    I have mostly seen usenet after it's glory days, so 2 months is like
    bustling with activity here. :D

    Well, I think that NNTP is better than mailing lists.

    I actually haven't played a proper game since early in the pandemic.
    After a few tries over Discord I noticed that just making time to be
    able to play was a chore with kids around.

    In the beginning of the pandemic, I have still played GURPS, on the
    computer, using a direct connection (since I am the only player and
    there is the GM, we do not need something more such as IRC). I used
    a command like:

    ts '%.s>' | tee -a send.log | nc -Clvt 15154 | ts '%.s<' | tee -a recv.log | sed 's/$/\x1B]0;CONNECTED\a/'

    The other side just used PuTTY (since they were on Windows, while I used Linux), and sent a bell upon connection to notify me they were ready. (I
    could also see the window title, which is what the "sed" at the end does.)

    Afterward, I used a command like the following to combine the logs:

    cat send.log recv.log | sort > full.log

    If you want to play by computer, this is a simple way to do it.

    However, that has not been used in a while; these days I play in person,
    and do not need to do it by computer. We both prefer to do it in person,
    rather than by computer.

    I also would hope this and other newsgroups would continue to be used. I
    have written some ideas before, and perhaps with communication, will be
    able to work together to make them. (I wanted to make up "Scientific Role Playing System", which is fully public domain; I have already partially
    done so. I use TeX for typesetting.)

    --
    Don't laugh at the moon when it is day time in France.

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  • From kyonshi@21:1/5 to news@zzo38computer.org.invalid on Wed Nov 30 20:18:21 2022
    On 30/11/2022 20:01, news@zzo38computer.org.invalid wrote:
    kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
    I have mostly seen usenet after it's glory days, so 2 months is like
    bustling with activity here. :D

    Well, I think that NNTP is better than mailing lists.

    Well, it is. Mailing lists have their uses, but they also have a
    tendency to die off at one point or another when they become
    inconvenient to the hosts (see the old ADND lists, or Yahoo Groups)

    I actually haven't played a proper game since early in the pandemic.
    After a few tries over Discord I noticed that just making time to be
    able to play was a chore with kids around.

    In the beginning of the pandemic, I have still played GURPS, on the
    computer, using a direct connection (since I am the only player and
    there is the GM, we do not need something more such as IRC). I used
    a command like:

    ts '%.s>' | tee -a send.log | nc -Clvt 15154 | ts '%.s<' | tee -a recv.log | sed 's/$/\x1B]0;CONNECTED\a/'

    The other side just used PuTTY (since they were on Windows, while I used Linux), and sent a bell upon connection to notify me they were ready. (I could also see the window title, which is what the "sed" at the end does.)

    Afterward, I used a command like the following to combine the logs:

    cat send.log recv.log | sort > full.log

    If you want to play by computer, this is a simple way to do it.

    That's a very low tech method for something that still uses a computer.
    I am impressed.


    However, that has not been used in a while; these days I play in person,
    and do not need to do it by computer. We both prefer to do it in person, rather than by computer.

    I also would hope this and other newsgroups would continue to be used. I
    have written some ideas before, and perhaps with communication, will be
    able to work together to make them. (I wanted to make up "Scientific Role Playing System", which is fully public domain; I have already partially
    done so. I use TeX for typesetting.)


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  • From Laurens =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kils=2DH=FCt@21:1/5 to kyonshi on Tue Dec 6 17:23:38 2022
    kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
    The only roleplaying I did was introducing my kid to it. He normally
    tries to gang up with the orcs and steal all the treasures in the dungeon.

    But isnt't that what most D&D players like to do? :D

    --
    Laurens Kils-Hütten
    https://sdf-eu.org/~lkh

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  • From kyonshi@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 6 19:55:56 2022
    On 06/12/2022 18:23, Laurens Kils-Hütten wrote:
    kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
    The only roleplaying I did was introducing my kid to it. He normally
    tries to gang up with the orcs and steal all the treasures in the dungeon.

    But isnt't that what most D&D players like to do? :D


    Most murderhobos I think murder the denizens instead of trying to build
    their own little domain with orc minions

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  • From Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha@21:1/5 to kyonshi on Tue Dec 6 13:13:02 2022
    kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:tmo37s$9tlf$3@dont-email.me:

    On 06/12/2022 18:23, Laurens Kils-Hütten wrote:
    kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
    The only roleplaying I did was introducing my kid to it. He
    normally tries to gang up with the orcs and steal all the
    treasures in the dungeon.

    But isnt't that what most D&D players like to do? :D


    Most murderhobos I think murder the denizens instead of trying
    to build their own little domain with orc minions

    That comes later, after enough murder hoboing for it get boring.

    (And it's not like there isn't precedent in mythology. Have you ever
    read Beowulf?)

    --
    Terry Austin

    "Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

    Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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  • From kyonshi@21:1/5 to Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha on Wed Dec 7 19:45:51 2022
    On 06/12/2022 21:13, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
    kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:tmo37s$9tlf$3@dont-email.me:

    On 06/12/2022 18:23, Laurens Kils-Hütten wrote:
    kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
    The only roleplaying I did was introducing my kid to it. He
    normally tries to gang up with the orcs and steal all the
    treasures in the dungeon.

    But isnt't that what most D&D players like to do? :D


    Most murderhobos I think murder the denizens instead of trying
    to build their own little domain with orc minions

    That comes later, after enough murder hoboing for it get boring.

    (And it's not like there isn't precedent in mythology. Have you ever
    read Beowulf?)


    I think he doesn't actually want to play the usual DnD conflict game, he
    rather wants to skip ahead to the part where he builds fortresses, or
    when he is the dungeon master.
    Which might be good. He wants to play DnD because I got some terrain for
    it and he is fascinated with that. But what I think he might be much
    more interested in games that are much less about conflict. Not that I
    play DnD as a combat simulator anyway.

    I have to think what sort of things might hook him into some adventure.
    The rules for now are just something for me anyway. Maybe something
    about exploration, or a game where he has to build something up somewhere.

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  • From Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha@21:1/5 to kyonshi on Wed Dec 7 13:33:23 2022
    kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:tmqn0v$k9gb$1@dont-email.me:

    On 06/12/2022 21:13, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
    kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:tmo37s$9tlf$3@dont-email.me:

    On 06/12/2022 18:23, Laurens Kils-Hütten wrote:
    kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
    The only roleplaying I did was introducing my kid to it. He
    normally tries to gang up with the orcs and steal all the
    treasures in the dungeon.

    But isnt't that what most D&D players like to do? :D


    Most murderhobos I think murder the denizens instead of trying
    to build their own little domain with orc minions

    That comes later, after enough murder hoboing for it get
    boring.

    (And it's not like there isn't precedent in mythology. Have you
    ever read Beowulf?)


    I think he doesn't actually want to play the usual DnD conflict
    game, he rather wants to skip ahead to the part where he builds
    fortresses, or when he is the dungeon master.

    More experienced players often do, until they reach their "second
    childhood" phase, and pine of the "good old days" of breaking into
    people's homes, murderign the inhabitants and stealing all their
    stuff, usually after a night of drinking beer and telling old
    gaming stories.

    Which might be good. He wants to play DnD because I got some
    terrain for it and he is fascinated with that. But what I think
    he might be much more interested in games that are much less
    about conflict. Not that I play DnD as a combat simulator
    anyway.

    I have to think what sort of things might hook him into some
    adventure. The rules for now are just something for me anyway.
    Maybe something about exploration, or a game where he has to
    build something up somewhere.

    There are a lot of mystery/investigation oriented games out there,
    though fantasy ones are less common. Swords of the Serpentine is
    based on Gumshoe, which is very narrative in nature and designed
    specifically for investigation games. "The rules adapt the GUMSHOE
    system to create a fantasy RPG with a focus on high-action
    roleplaying and investigation inspired by the stories of Fritz
    Leiber, Terry Pratchett, and Robert E. Howard." I suspect one could
    easily do a Discworld City Guard setting with it.

    (Gumshoe *can* get pretty . . . out of hand and violence oriented,
    if you want it to. I refer you to the tale of Old Man Henderson, a
    Call of Chtulu game using it, for an example. https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Old_Man_Henderson )

    There are also heist games out there, and a heist is pretty much a
    failure if there's combat. The joy of a good heist scenario is the
    careful planning. If it's done right, the actual heist is an
    afterthought. Setting up the scenario can be a *lot* of work for
    the GM, though.

    If you want to stick with D&D specifically, you can mine those
    other games for ideas, and just . . . not use the combat rules
    much, if at all.

    And, of course, pure exploration, and building things settings.
    Both of which can also be a lot of work to set up.

    --
    Terry Austin

    "Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

    Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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  • From gbbgu@21:1/5 to kyonshi on Sun Jul 2 07:36:07 2023
    On 29 Nov 2022 at 19:30:49 AEDT, "kyonshi" <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

    The only roleplaying I did was introducing my kid to it. He normally
    tries to gang up with the orcs and steal all the treasures in the dungeon.

    Ha, I tried a quick one shot with the two teenage boys:

    You're in a tavern, there's a distressed lady, lost son etc etc, what do you do?

    I cast magic missile at my brother!

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  • From Alex Schroeder@21:1/5 to gbbgu on Sun Jul 2 20:09:42 2023
    gbbgu <john.doe@myemail.invalid> wrote:
    I cast magic missile at my brother!

    Love it! Well, not really, of course. But it made me laugh.
    :D

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  • From Lafe@21:1/5 to gbbgu on Thu Jul 6 02:26:35 2023
    gbbgu <john.doe@myemail.invalid> wrote in
    news:HN9oM.10675$W7d4.4345@fx18.iad:
    Ha, I tried a quick one shot with the two teenage boys:

    You're in a tavern, there's a distressed lady, lost son etc etc, what do
    you do?

    I cast magic missile at my brother!

    I did a one-shot with a 9 year old son and 12 year old daughter.

    "You're standing outside a cave on the side of an active volcano. There are numerous holes in the ground around you, some of them are venting noxious gasses. What do you do?"

    Son: "I look at the holes, what's coming out of them?"

    "Roll a perception check." (dice rolling instructions ensue)

    "You notice that one of the holes is releasing wood smoke instead of volcanic fumes."

    Son: "I poop in that hole."

    I'm not sure what I expected, really.

    Lafe

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  • From gbbgu@21:1/5 to Lafe on Thu Jul 6 05:57:35 2023
    On 6 Jul 2023, Lafe wrote:

    I'm not sure what I expected, really.

    Ha, that gave me a good laugh.

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