600 ml lukewarm water
70 g white flour
70 g common sugar
10 g salt

Put them in a plastic basin, in that order, don't mix. Cover
with a cloth.
After 24 hrs, mix gently 2x a day.

After 5 days, there is a lot of activity.

Take 200 g of the mixture above, put it in a loosely covered
jar (I used a 1 liter plastic coke bottle with a loose plastic top)
and add
400 g warm water
70 g white flour
70 g sugar
5 g salt

Mix well.
The next day it's fermenting so fast you can make bread with
it, as long as you add a generous amount of sugar to the recipe.
It smells yeasty, sweetish, and slightly alcoholic, but not
sour.
Anyone have any idea what the biological agents are ?
TIA
[]'s

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On 19-Jul-16 19:12, Shadow wrote:

600 ml lukewarm water
70 g white flour
70 g common sugar
10 g salt

Put them in a plastic basin, in that order, don't mix. Cover
with a cloth.
After 24 hrs, mix gently 2x a day.

After 5 days, there is a lot of activity.

Take 200 g of the mixture above, put it in a loosely covered
jar (I used a 1 liter plastic coke bottle with a loose plastic top)
and add
400 g warm water
70 g white flour
70 g sugar
5 g salt

Mix well.
The next day it's fermenting so fast you can make bread with
it, as long as you add a generous amount of sugar to the recipe.
It smells yeasty, sweetish, and slightly alcoholic, but not
sour.
Anyone have any idea what the biological agents are ?
TIA
[]'s

Wow! Not at all sure. Never heard of a scheme like that. If you've
made it, how's it doing?

Dusty
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me new courage to face life cheerfully, have been Kindness, Beauty, and
Truth." - Albert Einstein

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On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 20:57:56 -0000 (UTC), Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> wrote:

In article <2kmtobp0ofnmtb3j9n4elsrs7ecd35jvk9@4ax.com>,
Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:

600 ml lukewarm water
70 g white flour
70 g common sugar
10 g salt

Put them in a plastic basin, in that order, don't mix. Cover
with a cloth.
After 24 hrs, mix gently 2x a day.

After 5 days, there is a lot of activity.

Take 200 g of the mixture above, put it in a loosely covered
jar (I used a 1 liter plastic coke bottle with a loose plastic top)
and add
400 g warm water
70 g white flour
70 g sugar
5 g salt

Mix well.
The next day it's fermenting so fast you can make bread with
it, as long as you add a generous amount of sugar to the recipe.
It smells yeasty, sweetish, and slightly alcoholic, but not
sour.
Anyone have any idea what the biological agents are ?

It seems similar to the Herman friendship cake/bread thing, although
some of them also have milk in.

Yes, it's something like what we call "Christ's Yeast". The
smell is a little different though. Sweeter.
Still interested in the biology of the yeast, and if it's in
any way related to sourdough/commercial yeast.
[]'s
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In article <2kmtobp0ofnmtb3j9n4elsrs7ecd35jvk9@4ax.com>,
Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:

600 ml lukewarm water
70 g white flour
70 g common sugar
10 g salt

Put them in a plastic basin, in that order, don't mix. Cover
with a cloth.
After 24 hrs, mix gently 2x a day.

After 5 days, there is a lot of activity.

Take 200 g of the mixture above, put it in a loosely covered
jar (I used a 1 liter plastic coke bottle with a loose plastic top)
and add
400 g warm water
70 g white flour
70 g sugar
5 g salt

Mix well.
The next day it's fermenting so fast you can make bread with
it, as long as you add a generous amount of sugar to the recipe.
It smells yeasty, sweetish, and slightly alcoholic, but not
sour.
Anyone have any idea what the biological agents are ?

It seems similar to the Herman friendship cake/bread thing, although
some of them also have milk in.

Gordon

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Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:

600 ml lukewarm water
70 g white flour
70 g common sugar
10 g salt

The inclusion of salt is surprising. Shouldn't it inhibit the
micro-organisms, at least a little?

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gopher://retro-net.org/1/dnied/ , http://devio.us/~ndr/

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On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 10:30:30 -0700, Dusty
<DustySN@InnerLodgeREMOVETHIS.com> wrote:

On 19-Jul-16 19:12, Shadow wrote:

600 ml lukewarm water
70 g white flour
70 g common sugar
10 g salt

Put them in a plastic basin, in that order, don't mix. Cover
with a cloth.
After 24 hrs, mix gently 2x a day.

After 5 days, there is a lot of activity.

Take 200 g of the mixture above, put it in a loosely covered
jar (I used a 1 liter plastic coke bottle with a loose plastic top)
and add
400 g warm water
70 g white flour
70 g sugar
5 g salt

Mix well.
The next day it's fermenting so fast you can make bread with
it, as long as you add a generous amount of sugar to the recipe.
It smells yeasty, sweetish, and slightly alcoholic, but not
sour.
Anyone have any idea what the biological agents are ?
TIA
[]'s

Wow! Not at all sure. Never heard of a scheme like that. If you've
made it, how's it doing?

Made dough with it last night, baked it this morning. It
almost quadrupled in size( almost tripled with the rise, then
increased > 1/3 from oven spring). The gluten did not deteriorate at
all, I could have let it rise more, it seems to feed on sugar only.
But not as nice as sourdough, it has a slightly unpleasant
after-taste, not noticeable if you eat it with jam, but quite definite
if you eat it with only butter.
I'll see what happens to the after-taste when I toast it.
[]'s

PS try making it, it might be some "regional yeast" I picked up in
Brazil. Not exactly expensive or labor-intensive. I'd be interested to
know if this is a yeast present in all flour that gets killed off by
the sourdough acidity.
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On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 02:05:59 +0200, Dario Niedermann
<dnied@tiscali.it> wrote:

Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:

600 ml lukewarm water
70 g white flour
70 g common sugar
10 g salt

The inclusion of salt is surprising. Shouldn't it inhibit the >micro-organisms, at least a little?

It probably does. But it's so fast that's a "feature", not a
"bug".
;)
[]'s
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