• rec.food.cooking FAQ and conversion file (4/4)

    From Victor Sack@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 20 23:31:22 2015
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    Clean the wok with hot water and some form of scrubbing tool. The
    bamboo things they sometimes include actually work or one can use a
    nylon scrubbing pad (no brillo, SOS, or equivalent). After the wok is
    cleaned, put it back on the burner for a few minutes to heat it up and evaporate any moisture. Then, add a little oil to it and rub it around
    with a paper towel to keep it shiny and from rusting with any moisture
    it may attract in between uses.

    Another thing, when you are done cooking in the wok, put some water in
    it to soak while you eat. Cleanup takes just a few work with a nylon
    scrubbing pad and some hot water.

    Taking good care of your cookware only requires a few minutes of time
    and makes it much easier to use and cleanup. Food doesn't stick to a
    well seasoned wok. If it starts to stick, scrub it well with something
    like an S.O.S. pad and re-season.

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    5.2 Cast Iron (thank you to Tom Rankin)

    Summary:
    Make sure your cast iron is clean down to bare metal.
    Coat with fat, heat, repeat.
    Look after by never washing in soapy water and scrubbing as little as
    possible.

    Details:

    Initial cleaning: get off all the packaging oil, burnt food or
    whatever the pan has on it. Some suggestions for achieving this are
    - Wash in hot soapy water, dry thoroughly
    - Boil undiluted white vinegar in the pan for while
    - Commercial beadblasting (not sandblasting)
    - Steel wool
    - Hot embers
    - Kosher salt baked in the pan at 500°F (260°C) for 4 hours and
    scraped out again
    - Put in self-cleaning oven and turn on clean cycle

    Fats to use: a solid vegetable fat, or lard. Oil is not as suitable.

    Seasoning process: Wipe pot inside and out with melted fat. Do the lid
    too (if it's cast iron). At this point, authorities seem to diverge.
    The common theme is "get it hot and keep it hot for considerably more
    than an hour" (optionally followed by "re-coat it with fat during the process"). Two hours at 350°F (175°C), re-wiping with fat every
    30 minutes, seems sensible.

    When this has been done, the seasoning process has been begun but not
    yet completed. The first few times the pan is used, it should be for
    fairly fatty foods. Fried eggs rather than tomato soup, for example.

    Each time the pan is used, rinse with hot water and scrub if necessary.
    Don't scour or use detergent - otherwise you will need to re-season.
    Some people coat their cast iron very lightly with oil after washing,
    then wipe out after an initial heating next time they use it.

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    6 History and Lore of rec.food.cooking

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    6.1 Origins of rec.food.cooking (thank you to Max Hauser)

    rec.food.cooking began as net.cooks, launched by friend and fellow food
    fanatic Steve Upstill in Berkeley in January 1982 with a posting on
    pragmatic pasta sauces, something Steve was then often cooking,
    including at my place. We were all cranking out a lot of fresh ribbon
    pasta with Atlas 150 (150mm) roller/cutter machines and we needed things
    to do with it. net.cooks became rec.food.cooking in the general Great
    Renaming (late 1986). Current Google archives show Steve's original
    29-Jan-82 posting, and also his 31-Jan-82 net.general announcement of net.cooks, "All about food, cooking, cookbooks, recipes and other
    alimentary effluvia." That was the "charter" of this newsgroup.
    (Discussions by the way using the specific language of newsgroup
    "charter" on net.cooks or rec.food.cooking don't appear until five years
    later in 1987, an exchange between Terry Sterkel, me, and Spafford,
    referring anyway to a different newsgroup.) Posted statistics also
    showed that net.cooks became popular immediately, one of the most
    popular newsgroups at the time. After the 1986 renaming, a Gene
    Spafford active-newsgroups list included rec.food.cooking with summary
    "Food, cooking, cookbooks, and recipes." Steve Upstill continued to
    contribute occasionally, and also to work on recipe-formatting software.
    I recall him commercializing a typesetting macro package ("-MU"), and
    recipe software for Mac platforms.

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    6.2 Some Higlights in the Life of rec.food.cooking

    - There have been quite a few rec.food.cooking cook-ins all over the
    USA, as well as a small one in Germany. The first one was hosted by
    Anne Bourget in Sacramento, California, in 1994.

    - Early in 1997, a rec.food.cooking T-shirt was produced, with the
    proceeds donated to charity. Some 220 T-shirts were sold to rfc'ers.

    - In 2002-3, a rec.food.cooking Cook.Book was published, also with the proceeds donated to charity (City Harvest, a NYC affiliate of Second
    Harvest) to help the victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. There were
    two printings, one late in 2002, the other early in 2003, and a total of
    about 740 copies were sold, also to rfc'ers.


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    6.3 What's all this about xxxx? (much of this section was copied
    verbatim from the rec.food.cooking MiniFAQ that the
    invaluable Amy Gale used to post - thank you, Amy)

    This section tries to cover a few of the most commonly confusing
    topics that may come up on the newsgroup.

    aluminium : has not been linked to Alzheimer's Disease in a
    reproducible experiment.

    Elbonia : a mythical country (probably in Eastern Europe). Comes
    from Scott Adams' "Dilbert", syndicated in newspapers and
    available at http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/

    Ingrid : Anne Bourget's Volvo, used for flattening chicken breasts.
    Now deceased, but the memory lives on.

    j/nghlm : a joke ingredient. Spelling varies.

    WWT : (Weekend With Tammy). Once upon a time, a long-time rfc
    poster named Tammy spent a weekend with another long-time
    poster who posted a long article describing their mainly
    food-related adventures. Some people took exception to
    that posting, complaining about the lack of recipes (which
    were posted separately). Many people now use the WWT
    acronym in the subject header to indicate a posting of
    similar nature.

    ObFood : 'obligatory food reference'. An old rfc tradition.
    Many people hold that, whenever one happens to post off
    topic, one is supposed to add something that has to do
    with food, ideally something that is actually interesting
    and/or useful.

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    7 This has come up once too often....

    This list is a (futile?) attempt to keep certain well-worn subjects from
    coming up yet again. Further suggestions always welcome.

    The $250 cookie recipe

    This recipe comes up often, usually here but also on other newsgroups
    (where it is even less appropriate). The story goes that a woman had a
    cookie at [usually Mrs. Field's or Neiman Marcus' cafe], and liked it
    so much she wanted the recipe. The clerk said "It will cost you
    two-fifty"; the woman thought that meant $2.50 and was shocked to find
    it meant $250. She is now spreading it to get revenge, since it was not returnable.

    There are a number of holes in the story, and no one has ever brought
    forth any evidence that it really happened. (If you want to argue that
    you know someone who knows someone who this really happened to, take it
    over to alt.folklore.urban, where they will proceed to have you for
    breakfast if you have no evidence.) More importantly, it has been
    posted more than enough times by now. Some people have tried the recipe
    and pronounced it good, but it ain't Mrs. Field's. If you would like
    the recipe, ask for someone to mail it to you.

    It has been pointed out to me that the recipe is in the standard source distribution for GNU Emacs and XEmacs. If your site has that source,
    look in the "etc" directory for a file named COOKIES.

    Most importantly, please DO NOT post it any more. There is also a Mrs
    Fields cookbook, published by Time-Life. This has recipes, but not the
    exact ones for the ones sold in the stores, as those recipes are not
    well suited to home baking.

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    8 Recipe archives and other cooking/food sites

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    8.1 Recipe archives

    There are hundreds, if not thousands, of recipe archives on the net.
    Here are some of the more popular and larger ones.

    * http://recipes.alastra.com/
    The official rec.food.recipes archive, maintained by Stephanie da
    Silva.

    * http://www.lysator.liu.se/etexts/recept/us/main.html
    Usenet Cookbook, a collection of old alt.gourmand recipes.

    * http://www.recipesource.com/
    SOAR - Searchable Online Archive of Recipes.

    * http://www.ichef.com/ichef-recipes/

    * http://www.cs.cmu.edu/%7Emjw/recipes/
    Amy Gale's recipe archives.

    * http://recipes.wenzel.net/
    RecipeLand.com's archive with 25000+ recipes.

    * http://www.astray.com/recipes/
    A searchable database of 76,000+ recipes, maintained by Leon
    Brocard.

    * http://www.recipecenter.com
    100,000+ recipes.

    * http://allrecipes.com/
    A large, searchable recipe archive.

    * http://home.uni-one.nl/the-cooking-page/
    The Cooking Page. Numerous recipe links classified by language
    (English, French, German, Dutch), by food course, and by cuisine.

    * http://www.oingo.com/topic/14/14336.html
    A well designed and functional searchable database of thousands of
    food and recipe links.

    * http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/topics/cook.htm
    Ancient and medieval recipes, and cooking and food links.

    * http://www.ajlc.waterloo.on.ca/Recipes/index.html
    A very large, meticulous index of recipes, with a search engine.

    * http://www.cdkitchen.com/
    A comprehensive cooking Web site with over 200,000 recipes,
    including a rec.food.recipes archive. By Valerie Whitmore.

    * http://www.lingualearn.co.uk/food.htm
    A collection of links to recipes, etc. of varius countries.

    * "http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm
    A Boke of Gode Cookery. A collection of Medieval recipes by James
    Matterer.

    * Copycat recipes or links to them are often requested on rfc. Two of
    the better known sites with such recipes are
    http://www.copykat.com
    and
    http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/.

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    8.2 Other cooking/food sites

    * http://www.epicurious.com/
    A general food site with a dictionary (THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION,
    by Sharon Tyler Herbst), recipes from well-known food magazines,
    etc.

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/
    Mimi's Cyber Kitchen, a general food site maintained by Mimi
    Hiller.

    * http://www-ang.kfunigraz.ac.at/~katzer/engl/index.html
    Gernot Katzer's Spice Pages, a Web spice encyclopedia, by Gernot
    Katzer.

    * http://www.foodsubs.com/ (and numerous mirrors)
    The Cook's Thesaurus. By Lori Alden. Suggests substitutions for
    thousands of cooking ingredients.

    * http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Island/3012/glossary.htm
    An A-Z glossary of Indian spices and cooking terms.

    * http://www.EuropeanCuisines.com/
    and
    http://www.owlsprings.com/the_balti_page/
    "European Cuisines" and "The Balti Page".
    By Peter Morwood & Diane Duane.

    * http://www.virtualquincy.com/quincy/recreation/recipes.html
    Directory listing of over 375 recipe and cooking websites.

    * http://www.reluctantgourmet.com/
    Cooking guide for beginner cooks.

    * http://labsoftware.com/cookbook/default.htm
    "Cooking for Graduate Students and and other beginning Kitchen
    Dwellers".

    * http://vsack.homepage.t-online.de/afa_faq.html
    Links to sites related to Asian food and cooking, as posted
    regularly to alt.food.asian by blacksalt.

    * http://www.whatscookingamerica.net/Glossary/GlossaryIndex2.htm
    Linda's Culinary Dictionary. By Linda Stradley. A listing and
    history of cooking, food, and beverage terms.

    * http://www.todine.net/dictionary.html
    Italian-English-French-Spanish-German Gastronomical Dictionary.

    * http://www.xs4all.nl/~margjos/
    English-French-German-Danish-Dutch food dictionary. By Jos and
    Marg Sparreboom.

    * http://www.theepicentre.com/glossary.html
    A glossary of spices, etc.

    * http://www.soupsong.com/ifoodta.html
    "Food tales, or everything you always wanted to know about the
    migration and lore of food."

    * http://www.breadworld.com/canada/tips/glossary/glossary.asp
    A glossary of baking terms maintained by Fleischmann's Yeast, a
    commercial entity.

    * http://www.mhr-viandes.com/en/docu/docu/d9000003.htm
    Multilingual meat and poultry glossaries.

    * http://www.aboutproduce.com/
    Recipes, nutrition info, selection tips for vegetables, fruits, nuts
    and herbs. By the Produce Marketing Association.

    * http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/rfe0.html
    Comprehensive, illustrated fish encylopaedia. An FDA resource.

    * http://navigator.tufts.edu/
    Tufts University Nutrition Navigator. Reviews and rating of
    nutrition information Web sites.

    * http://food.oregonstate.edu/glossary/all.html
    Science of Foods Glossary.

    * http://www.cahe.nmsu.edu/pubs/_e/e-131.pdf
    In A Pinch - Ingredient Substitution, a PDF file.

    * http://www.thousandeggs.com/cookbooks.html
    Links to old culinary & brewing documents online, by Cindy Renfrow.

    * http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/egg/fdnews.html
    A humongous list of culinary newsletters, magazines and journals.

    * http://www.azcentral.com/home/cooking101/
    Cooking 101.

    * http://www.gortons.com/cookbook/
    Gorton's fisherman's cookbook and fish glossary.

    * http://www.pipeline.com/~rosskat/
    A wealth of culinary information, resources, recipes, etc. on a
    rather disorganised site.

    * http://members.aol.com/Jwmike101/home.html
    Culinary resource desk. Lots of useful links.

    * http://www.psgrill.net/Encyclopedia/ENCYCLOPEDIA.html
    Large, useful food dictionary (but with some annoying
    mistranslations and misspellings).

    * http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/glossary/
    BBC's food glossary.

    * http://www.calacademy.org/research/anthropology/utensil/
    The History of Eating Utensils.

    * http://www.astaspice.org/history/history_main.htm
    ASTA's World of Spice - The history of the Spice Trade. By The
    American Spice Trade Association.

    * http://www.usmef.org/TradeLibrary/InternationalMeatManual.asp
    International Meat Manual. Corn-fed beef, grass-fed beef, veal,
    pork and lamb. In English, Japanese, Korean, Mandarin Chinese and
    Spanish. By the U.S. Meat Export Federation.

    * http://www.carnegielibrary.org/subject/food/
    Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh -- comprehensive Food and Cooking
    resource guide

    * http://www.bakingbusiness.com/refbook.asp
    The Encyclopedia of Baking offers reference, formulations and
    troubleshooting for common baking ingredients.

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    9 Food newsgroups and mailing lists

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    9.1 rec.food.cooking

    a.k.a. us: A group for the discussion of cooking in general. Recipes
    and requests for recipes are welcome here, as are discussions of cooking techniques, equipment, etc. In short, if it has to do with cooking, it probably belongs here - though that doesn't mean it doesn't belong
    somewhere else, too!

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    9.2 rec.food.recipes

    A moderated newsgroup for recipes and requests for recipes. Each week a
    FAQ explains how to post recipes or requests. The lead moderator is
    Tracy Carman, <recipes@swcp.com>.
    The rfr moderators' software automatically sets followups to rfc.
    The reason is, no discussion is allowed in rfr - only recipes or
    requests for same. Since some people might wish to publicly discuss
    posted recipes notwithstanding, followups to rfc serve a useful purpose.

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    9.3 rec.food.drink, rec.food.drink.beer, rec.food.drink.tea,
    rec.food.restaurants, rec.food.drink.coffee
    rec.food.sourdough, rec.food.historic

    Pretty self-explanatory.

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    9.4 rec.food.veg

    About vegetarianism. It also has its own FAQ list, with questions about
    the myths and truths of the vegetarian diet, information on where to get "cruelty-free" products, etc.

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    9.5 rec.food.veg.cooking

    A moderated version of rec.food.veg

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    9.6 rec.food.preserving

    "Rec.food.preserving is a newsgroup devoted to the discussion of
    recipes, equipment, and techniques of food preservation. Current food preservation techniques that rightly should be discussed in this forum
    include canning, freezing, dehydration, pickling, smoking, salting,
    distilling, and potting. Foodstuffs are defined as produce (both fruits
    and vegetables), meat, fish, dairy products, culinary and medicinal
    herbs. Discussions should be limited to home-grown or home-preserved
    foods." (From the rec.food.preserving FAQ)

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    9.7 also...

    rec.crafts.winemaking
    rec.crafts.brewing
    alt.food
    alt.food.wine
    alt.coffee
    alt.food.asian
    alt.food.fat-free
    alt.food.low-fat
    alt.bacchus
    alt.food.mcdonalds (an oxymoron if ever I heard one)
    alt.food.coca-cola (mmmm....coca cola...)
    alt.food.chocolate
    alt.food.taco.bell
    alt.creative-cook
    alt.creative-cooking
    alt.cooking-chat
    alt.food.barbecue
    alt.2eggs.sausage.beans.tomatoes.2toast.largetea.cheerslove alt.food.mexican-cooking
    alt.food.sushi

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    9.8 mailing lists

    A very popular mailing list is

    Chile-Heads

    Purpose: The Chile-Heads list is intended to provide a forum
    for discussion of matters relating to chile peppers; including,
    but not limited to:

    o Growing peppers
    o Seed and plant sources
    o Exchanges of seeds/plants/pods/etc.
    o Exotic varieties
    o Storing and preserving chiles
    o Recipes using chiles
    o Other related posts

    http://globalgarden.com/Chile-Heads/list_info.phtml

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List
    All messages posted to the list are emailed immediately to
    everyone on the list.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List
    The digest will save all email messages posted to the list for
    the day and send in one email message.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from
    ftp.globalgarden.com, in pub/Chile-Heads/digest/vNN.nMMM
    (where "NN" is the volume number, and "MMM" is the issue number).

    How to Unsubscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List or Digest
    Mailing List
    To unsubscribe send email to Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    or Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    (depending on which version of the list you are subscribed to)
    with the body of the message containing:
    UNSUBSCRIBE


    Another popular mailing list is

    Bread-Bakers

    The bread-bakers digest and daily-bread mailing lists are for the
    free exchange of recipes and information related to any and all
    aspects of bread baking, by hand or by machine.
    http://www.bread-bakers.com/

    To join the bread-bakers mailing list, send mail to
    bread-bakers-request@lists.bread-bakers.com In the body of the
    message, place, in lower case with no indentation, the single word:

    subscribe

    This will subscribe you at the address that your message is sent
    from. This is almost certainly your correct address. Bestserv will
    send you a message asking you to confirm your subscription request.
    You must reply to the message changing the word REJECT in the
    subject to ACCEPT. You will get a confirmation when your
    subscription has been accepted. If you have problems subscribing,
    please write to us at bread-bakers-owner@lists.bread-bakers.com
    and we will assist you.

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    10 Other culinary FAQs (thank you to Damsel in dis Dress)

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    10.1 Foods

    * ftp://ftp.michvhf.com/pub/rec.food.baking/FAQ
    (rec.food.baking FAQ, by B. Keith Ryder)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/sourdough/faq/preamble.html
    (rec.food.sourdough FAQ, maintained by Darrell Greenwood)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/index2.html#faq
    (Meat FAQs: Foie gras, Pig processing, Venison processing, Elk and
    caribou, Wagyu and Kobe beef; by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.macscouter.com/Cooking/DutchOven.html
    (Dutch oven cooking)

    * http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/index.html
    (BBQ FAQ, by William W. Wight)

    * http://www.bbqguide.com/meat_smoking_and_curing_faq.htm
    (Meat smoking and curing FAQ, maintained by Richard Thead)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/preserving/part1/
    (rec.food.preserving FAQ, maintained by Eric Decker)

    * http://edible-complex.home.att.net/faq-spices.html
    (Spices FAQ, by Daniel M. Germán)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/culinary-herbs/part1/
    (Culinary herbs FAQ, maintained by Henriette Kress)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/truffles.html
    (Truffles (fungi) FAQ, by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/chocolate/faq/
    (Chocolate FAQ, by Monee Kidd)

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    10.2 Beverages

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/caffeine-faq/
    (Coffee and caffeine FAQ, by Alex Lopez-Ortiz)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/tea/faq/
    (Tea FAQ, by Christopher Roberson)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/wine-faq/part1/
    (Wine FAQ, by Bradford S. Brown)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/crafts/winemaking-faq/
    (Winemaking FAQ, by Don Buchan)

    * http://www.beerinfo.com/rfdb/faq.html
    (Beer FAQ, by John A. Lock)

    * http://hbd.org/brewery/library/absfaq.html
    (Absinthe FAQ, by Matthew Baggott)

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    10.3 Religion, lifestyle and special diets

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/rfcj/kosherfaq.htm
    (Kosher food, by Pat Gold, Beth Greenfeld, and Ruth Heiges)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/vegetarian/faq/
    (rec.food.veg (vegetarian) FAQ, by Michael Traub)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/fatfree/faq/
    (Fat-free FAQ, by Michelle Dick)

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    10.4 Miscellaneous

    * http://FAQs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/cooking/common-topics
    (Commonly discussed topics, by Stephanie da Silva)

    * http://www.thepurplehouse.net/wedding/cookware.txt
    (Cookware FAQ, by Oliver Sharp)

    * http://www.sff.net/people/pff/sharp.txt
    (Knife FAQs: Plain vs. serrated edges, Knife sharpening,
    Steel types, by Joe Talmadge)

    * http://www.survival-center.com/foodfaq/ff1-toc.htm
    (Food storage FAQ, by Alan T. Hagan)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sci/food-science-faq/part1/
    (Food science FAQ, by Rachel Zemser, J. Ralph Blanchfield, and Paul
    King)

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    10.5 Humour

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/kool-aid-faq/
    (Kool-Aid FAQ, by Paul and Bess Dawson-Schmidt)

    * http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/bofh-food-faq
    (bofh.food FAQ, by J.D. Falk)

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    11 "Unofficial" rec.food.cooking Web site

    Damsel in dis Dress used to maintain what many people regarded as the 'unofficial' rec.food.cooking site, with sections devoted to rfc chat,
    rfc 'signature' dishes, rfc cook-in reports, and rfc birthdays.
    Chatty Cathy is currently in charge of the site, which contains all of
    the above and more, particularly a link to the rfc map set up by
    Christine Dabney. The site is located at
    http://www.recfoodcooking.org

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    12 Sources

    Lots of wonderful people helped compile this list - again, much
    acknowledgement is due to Cindy Kandolf for putting this entire thing
    together and to Amy Gale for maintaining it and adding to it for many
    years.

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    12.1 Contributors

    The other wonderful people are :

    carolynd(at)sail.labs.tek.com
    ekman(at)netc.om.com
    arielle(at)aronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
    rs7x+(at)andrew.cmu.edu
    jane(at)cse.lbl.gov
    jonog(at)g2syd.genasys.com.au anita(at)devvax.mincom.oz.au sbookey(at)ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey) ccd(at)ccdadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au pmmuggli(at)uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu chu(at)acsu.buffalo.edu cdfk(at)otter.hpl.hp.com dudek(at)ksr.com aem(at)symbiosis.ahp.com wald(at)theory.lcs.mit.edu harvey(at)indyvax.iupui.edu ed(at)pa.dec.com ndkj(at)vax5.cit.cornell.edu ekman(at)netc.om.com
    otten(at)icase.edu jane(at)cse.lbl.gov loosemore-sandra(at)cs.yale.edu mworley(at)mathcs.emory.edu kts(at)michael.udev.cdc.com cc(at)dcs.edinburgh.ac.uk leander(at)ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
    cduff(at)sugar.NeoSoft.COM
    lvirden(at)cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
    hammond(at)niwot.scd.ucar.EDU (Steve Hammond)
    dfw(at)thumper.bellcore.com (Doris Woods)
    gibbsm(at)ll.mit.edu (MargAret D Gibbs)
    rickert(at)cco.caltech.edu (Keith Warren Rickert)
    Simon Kershaw Simon.Kershaw(at)Smallworld.co.uk
    Joel Offenberg offenbrg(at)trifle.gsfc.nasa.gov
    grant(at)oj.rsmas.miami.edu (Grant Basham)
    lmak(at)cbnewsf.cb.att.com (louisa.l.mak)
    twain(at)carson.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin) hz225wu(at)unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Micaela Pantke)
    sfisher(at)megatest.com (Scott Fisher)
    byrne(at)rcf.rsmas.miami.edu (Charlie Byrne)
    jmk5u(at)Virginia.EDU
    bae(at)gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Beverly Erlebacher) rlwilliams(at)gallua.gallaudet.edu (Skip) hwalden(at)science-store.chem.wayne.edu (Heather Walden)
    mcenter(at)amoco.com (Mike Center, PSC)
    kevin(at)eye.com (Kevin Stokker)
    steven(at)surya.cs.ucla.edu (Steven Berson)
    eric.decker(at)canrem.com (Eric Decker)
    peteo(at)ford.wpd.sgi.com (Peter Orelup)
    sk10003(at)cus.cam.ac.uk (Scott Kleinman)
    David Casseres casseres(at)apple.com Ted.Taylor(at)p4214.f104.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Taylor)
    george(at)dfds.ml.com (George Minkovsky)
    Alison(at)moose.demon.co.uk (Alison Scott)
    jae(at)world.std.com (Jon A Edelston)
    conrad(at)qpsx.oz.au (Conrad Drake)
    nadel(at)attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel)
    patricia(at)cs.utexas.edu (Patricia M. Burson)
    betsey(at)columbia.edu (Elizabeth Fike)
    leah(at)smith.chi.il.us (Leah Smith)
    steve(at)unipalm.co.uk (Steve Ladlow)
    STEVE SKHNY(at)CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
    "Sudheer Apte" apte(at)loki.hks.com
    Diane Ferrell, Leslie Basel
    rankin(at)scubed.com (Tom Rankin)
    vev(at)msen.com (Vince Vielhaber)
    HUYQ78A(at)prodigy.com (MS PHYLLIS T SPAETH)
    lenf(at)netc.om.com (Len Freedman)
    apforz(at)pfood.win.net (Andy Pforzheimer)
    wnukoski(at)crypt.erie.ge.com (George Wnukoski)
    Dan_Masi(at)Warren.mentorg.com
    robinc(at)oanet.com (Robin Cowdrey)
    merlin(at)ion.com.au (Merlin Zener)
    "Frank Fileccia" surplus(at)telusplanet.net
    "Rodger Whitlock" totototo(at)mail.pacificcoast.net
    Damsel in dis Dress damsel.in.dis.dress(at)gmail.com
    Shankar Bhattacharyya sbhattac(at)idt.net
    Sophie Laplante laplante(at)lri.fr
    Andrew Nicholson andrewn(at)lesto.com
    Ed Keith edkeith(at)home.com
    Read rweaver(at)igc.org
    T. Terrell Banks terry(at)banks-usa.com
    William Chuang wchuang(at)MIT.EDU
    Scott Jordan sjordan(at)ntrnet.net
    Terry Simpson terry(at)connected-systems.com
    Bill Boylan bill.boylan(at)cox.net
    Max Hauser maxREMOVE(at)THIStdl.com
    Vilco a(at)b.invalid
    Lyndon Watson teile(at)clear.net.nz

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    12.2 Bibliography

    This is a new section composed of the acknowledgements previously
    sprinkled through the text. More information on these books will be
    welcomed.

    1) "Trolldom in the Kitchen"
    Pat Bjaaland and Melody Favish

    2) "Larousse Gastronomique"
    ISBN 0 7493 0316 6

    Larousse Gastronomique
    The New American Edition of the World's Greatest Culinary
    Encyclopedia
    By Jenifer Harvey Lang
    Hardcover, 1193 pages
    ISBN: 0517570327
    List Price: $60.00
    Random House
    Publication Date: 10/01/88

    3) "Still Life with Menu" (K)
    Mollie Katzen
    Revised trade paperback 1995
    Still Life with Menu Cookbook
    Trade Paperback, 256 Pages, Revised, Ten Speed, March 1995
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk)
    Author: Katzen, Mollie
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk.)

    Still Life With Menu Cookbook by Katzen, Mollie
    fifty new meatless menus with original art
    Berkeley, California, Ten Speed Press, 1988
    ISBN 0898152569

    4) "Cookery in Colour" (P)
    Marguerite Patten

    5) "The Rotation Diet" (RD)

    6) "My Fun-to-cook-book" (S)
    Ursula Sedgwick

    7) "The New Food Lover's Companion"

    8) "Michel Guérard's Cuisine Minceur"
    Michel Guérard

    9) "Mastering the Art of French Cooking"
    Julia Child

    10) "The Oxford Companion to Food"
    Alan Davidson

    11) "Julia and Jacques Cooking At Home"
    by Julia Child and Jacques Pépin

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    Clean the wok with hot water and some form of scrubbing tool. The
    bamboo things they sometimes include actually work or one can use a
    nylon scrubbing pad (no brillo, SOS, or equivalent). After the wok is
    cleaned, put it back on the burner for a few minutes to heat it up and evaporate any moisture. Then, add a little oil to it and rub it around
    with a paper towel to keep it shiny and from rusting with any moisture
    it may attract in between uses.

    Another thing, when you are done cooking in the wok, put some water in
    it to soak while you eat. Cleanup takes just a few work with a nylon
    scrubbing pad and some hot water.

    Taking good care of your cookware only requires a few minutes of time
    and makes it much easier to use and cleanup. Food doesn't stick to a
    well seasoned wok. If it starts to stick, scrub it well with something
    like an S.O.S. pad and re-season.

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    5.2 Cast Iron (thank you to Tom Rankin)

    Summary:
    Make sure your cast iron is clean down to bare metal.
    Coat with fat, heat, repeat.
    Look after by never washing in soapy water and scrubbing as little as
    possible.

    Details:

    Initial cleaning: get off all the packaging oil, burnt food or
    whatever the pan has on it. Some suggestions for achieving this are
    - Wash in hot soapy water, dry thoroughly
    - Boil undiluted white vinegar in the pan for while
    - Commercial beadblasting (not sandblasting)
    - Steel wool
    - Hot embers
    - Kosher salt baked in the pan at 500°F (260°C) for 4 hours and
    scraped out again
    - Put in self-cleaning oven and turn on clean cycle

    Fats to use: a solid vegetable fat, or lard. Oil is not as suitable.

    Seasoning process: Wipe pot inside and out with melted fat. Do the lid
    too (if it's cast iron). At this point, authorities seem to diverge.
    The common theme is "get it hot and keep it hot for considerably more
    than an hour" (optionally followed by "re-coat it with fat during the process"). Two hours at 350°F (175°C), re-wiping with fat every
    30 minutes, seems sensible.

    When this has been done, the seasoning process has been begun but not
    yet completed. The first few times the pan is used, it should be for
    fairly fatty foods. Fried eggs rather than tomato soup, for example.

    Each time the pan is used, rinse with hot water and scrub if necessary.
    Don't scour or use detergent - otherwise you will need to re-season.
    Some people coat their cast iron very lightly with oil after washing,
    then wipe out after an initial heating next time they use it.

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    6 History and Lore of rec.food.cooking

    ----------------------------------------
    6.1 Origins of rec.food.cooking (thank you to Max Hauser)

    rec.food.cooking began as net.cooks, launched by friend and fellow food
    fanatic Steve Upstill in Berkeley in January 1982 with a posting on
    pragmatic pasta sauces, something Steve was then often cooking,
    including at my place. We were all cranking out a lot of fresh ribbon
    pasta with Atlas 150 (150mm) roller/cutter machines and we needed things
    to do with it. net.cooks became rec.food.cooking in the general Great
    Renaming (late 1986). Current Google archives show Steve's original
    29-Jan-82 posting, and also his 31-Jan-82 net.general announcement of net.cooks, "All about food, cooking, cookbooks, recipes and other
    alimentary effluvia." That was the "charter" of this newsgroup.
    (Discussions by the way using the specific language of newsgroup
    "charter" on net.cooks or rec.food.cooking don't appear until five years
    later in 1987, an exchange between Terry Sterkel, me, and Spafford,
    referring anyway to a different newsgroup.) Posted statistics also
    showed that net.cooks became popular immediately, one of the most
    popular newsgroups at the time. After the 1986 renaming, a Gene
    Spafford active-newsgroups list included rec.food.cooking with summary
    "Food, cooking, cookbooks, and recipes." Steve Upstill continued to
    contribute occasionally, and also to work on recipe-formatting software.
    I recall him commercializing a typesetting macro package ("-MU"), and
    recipe software for Mac platforms.

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    6.2 Some Higlights in the Life of rec.food.cooking

    - There have been quite a few rec.food.cooking cook-ins all over the
    USA, as well as a small one in Germany. The first one was hosted by
    Anne Bourget in Sacramento, California, in 1994.

    - Early in 1997, a rec.food.cooking T-shirt was produced, with the
    proceeds donated to charity. Some 220 T-shirts were sold to rfc'ers.

    - In 2002-3, a rec.food.cooking Cook.Book was published, also with the proceeds donated to charity (City Harvest, a NYC affiliate of Second
    Harvest) to help the victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. There were
    two printings, one late in 2002, the other early in 2003, and a total of
    about 740 copies were sold, also to rfc'ers.


    ----------------------------------------
    6.3 What's all this about xxxx? (much of this section was copied
    verbatim from the rec.food.cooking MiniFAQ that the
    invaluable Amy Gale used to post - thank you, Amy)

    This section tries to cover a few of the most commonly confusing
    topics that may come up on the newsgroup.

    aluminium : has not been linked to Alzheimer's Disease in a
    reproducible experiment.

    Elbonia : a mythical country (probably in Eastern Europe). Comes
    from Scott Adams' "Dilbert", syndicated in newspapers and
    available at http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/

    Ingrid : Anne Bourget's Volvo, used for flattening chicken breasts.
    Now deceased, but the memory lives on.

    j/nghlm : a joke ingredient. Spelling varies.

    WWT : (Weekend With Tammy). Once upon a time, a long-time rfc
    poster named Tammy spent a weekend with another long-time
    poster who posted a long article describing their mainly
    food-related adventures. Some people took exception to
    that posting, complaining about the lack of recipes (which
    were posted separately). Many people now use the WWT
    acronym in the subject header to indicate a posting of
    similar nature.

    ObFood : 'obligatory food reference'. An old rfc tradition.
    Many people hold that, whenever one happens to post off
    topic, one is supposed to add something that has to do
    with food, ideally something that is actually interesting
    and/or useful.

    ----------------------------------------
    7 This has come up once too often....

    This list is a (futile?) attempt to keep certain well-worn subjects from
    coming up yet again. Further suggestions always welcome.

    The $250 cookie recipe

    This recipe comes up often, usually here but also on other newsgroups
    (where it is even less appropriate). The story goes that a woman had a
    cookie at [usually Mrs. Field's or Neiman Marcus' cafe], and liked it
    so much she wanted the recipe. The clerk said "It will cost you
    two-fifty"; the woman thought that meant $2.50 and was shocked to find
    it meant $250. She is now spreading it to get revenge, since it was not returnable.

    There are a number of holes in the story, and no one has ever brought
    forth any evidence that it really happened. (If you want to argue that
    you know someone who knows someone who this really happened to, take it
    over to alt.folklore.urban, where they will proceed to have you for
    breakfast if you have no evidence.) More importantly, it has been
    posted more than enough times by now. Some people have tried the recipe
    and pronounced it good, but it ain't Mrs. Field's. If you would like
    the recipe, ask for someone to mail it to you.

    It has been pointed out to me that the recipe is in the standard source distribution for GNU Emacs and XEmacs. If your site has that source,
    look in the "etc" directory for a file named COOKIES.

    Most importantly, please DO NOT post it any more. There is also a Mrs
    Fields cookbook, published by Time-Life. This has recipes, but not the
    exact ones for the ones sold in the stores, as those recipes are not
    well suited to home baking.

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    8 Recipe archives and other cooking/food sites

    ----------------------------------------
    8.1 Recipe archives

    There are hundreds, if not thousands, of recipe archives on the net.
    Here are some of the more popular and larger ones.

    * http://recipes.alastra.com/
    The official rec.food.recipes archive, maintained by Stephanie da
    Silva.

    * http://www.lysator.liu.se/etexts/recept/us/main.html
    Usenet Cookbook, a collection of old alt.gourmand recipes.

    * http://www.recipesource.com/
    SOAR - Searchable Online Archive of Recipes.

    * http://www.ichef.com/ichef-recipes/

    * http://www.cs.cmu.edu/%7Emjw/recipes/
    Amy Gale's recipe archives.

    * http://recipes.wenzel.net/
    RecipeLand.com's archive with 25000+ recipes.

    * http://www.astray.com/recipes/
    A searchable database of 76,000+ recipes, maintained by Leon
    Brocard.

    * http://www.recipecenter.com
    100,000+ recipes.

    * http://allrecipes.com/
    A large, searchable recipe archive.

    * http://home.uni-one.nl/the-cooking-page/
    The Cooking Page. Numerous recipe links classified by language
    (English, French, German, Dutch), by food course, and by cuisine.

    * http://www.oingo.com/topic/14/14336.html
    A well designed and functional searchable database of thousands of
    food and recipe links.

    * http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/topics/cook.htm
    Ancient and medieval recipes, and cooking and food links.

    * http://www.ajlc.waterloo.on.ca/Recipes/index.html
    A very large, meticulous index of recipes, with a search engine.

    * http://www.cdkitchen.com/
    A comprehensive cooking Web site with over 200,000 recipes,
    including a rec.food.recipes archive. By Valerie Whitmore.

    * http://www.lingualearn.co.uk/food.htm
    A collection of links to recipes, etc. of varius countries.

    * "http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm
    A Boke of Gode Cookery. A collection of Medieval recipes by James
    Matterer.

    * Copycat recipes or links to them are often requested on rfc. Two of
    the better known sites with such recipes are
    http://www.copykat.com
    and
    http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/.

    ----------------------------------------
    8.2 Other cooking/food sites

    * http://www.epicurious.com/
    A general food site with a dictionary (THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION,
    by Sharon Tyler Herbst), recipes from well-known food magazines,
    etc.

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/
    Mimi's Cyber Kitchen, a general food site maintained by Mimi
    Hiller.

    * http://www-ang.kfunigraz.ac.at/~katzer/engl/index.html
    Gernot Katzer's Spice Pages, a Web spice encyclopedia, by Gernot
    Katzer.

    * http://www.foodsubs.com/ (and numerous mirrors)
    The Cook's Thesaurus. By Lori Alden. Suggests substitutions for
    thousands of cooking ingredients.

    * http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Island/3012/glossary.htm
    An A-Z glossary of Indian spices and cooking terms.

    * http://www.EuropeanCuisines.com/
    and
    http://www.owlsprings.com/the_balti_page/
    "European Cuisines" and "The Balti Page".
    By Peter Morwood & Diane Duane.

    * http://www.virtualquincy.com/quincy/recreation/recipes.html
    Directory listing of over 375 recipe and cooking websites.

    * http://www.reluctantgourmet.com/
    Cooking guide for beginner cooks.

    * http://labsoftware.com/cookbook/default.htm
    "Cooking for Graduate Students and and other beginning Kitchen
    Dwellers".

    * http://vsack.homepage.t-online.de/afa_faq.html
    Links to sites related to Asian food and cooking, as posted
    regularly to alt.food.asian by blacksalt.

    * http://www.whatscookingamerica.net/Glossary/GlossaryIndex2.htm
    Linda's Culinary Dictionary. By Linda Stradley. A listing and
    history of cooking, food, and beverage terms.

    * http://www.todine.net/dictionary.html
    Italian-English-French-Spanish-German Gastronomical Dictionary.

    * http://www.xs4all.nl/~margjos/
    English-French-German-Danish-Dutch food dictionary. By Jos and
    Marg Sparreboom.

    * http://www.theepicentre.com/glossary.html
    A glossary of spices, etc.

    * http://www.soupsong.com/ifoodta.html
    "Food tales, or everything you always wanted to know about the
    migration and lore of food."

    * http://www.breadworld.com/canada/tips/glossary/glossary.asp
    A glossary of baking terms maintained by Fleischmann's Yeast, a
    commercial entity.

    * http://www.mhr-viandes.com/en/docu/docu/d9000003.htm
    Multilingual meat and poultry glossaries.

    * http://www.aboutproduce.com/
    Recipes, nutrition info, selection tips for vegetables, fruits, nuts
    and herbs. By the Produce Marketing Association.

    * http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/rfe0.html
    Comprehensive, illustrated fish encylopaedia. An FDA resource.

    * http://navigator.tufts.edu/
    Tufts University Nutrition Navigator. Reviews and rating of
    nutrition information Web sites.

    * http://food.oregonstate.edu/glossary/all.html
    Science of Foods Glossary.

    * http://www.cahe.nmsu.edu/pubs/_e/e-131.pdf
    In A Pinch - Ingredient Substitution, a PDF file.

    * http://www.thousandeggs.com/cookbooks.html
    Links to old culinary & brewing documents online, by Cindy Renfrow.

    * http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/egg/fdnews.html
    A humongous list of culinary newsletters, magazines and journals.

    * http://www.azcentral.com/home/cooking101/
    Cooking 101.

    * http://www.gortons.com/cookbook/
    Gorton's fisherman's cookbook and fish glossary.

    * http://www.pipeline.com/~rosskat/
    A wealth of culinary information, resources, recipes, etc. on a
    rather disorganised site.

    * http://members.aol.com/Jwmike101/home.html
    Culinary resource desk. Lots of useful links.

    * http://www.psgrill.net/Encyclopedia/ENCYCLOPEDIA.html
    Large, useful food dictionary (but with some annoying
    mistranslations and misspellings).

    * http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/glossary/
    BBC's food glossary.

    * http://www.calacademy.org/research/anthropology/utensil/
    The History of Eating Utensils.

    * http://www.astaspice.org/history/history_main.htm
    ASTA's World of Spice - The history of the Spice Trade. By The
    American Spice Trade Association.

    * http://www.usmef.org/TradeLibrary/InternationalMeatManual.asp
    International Meat Manual. Corn-fed beef, grass-fed beef, veal,
    pork and lamb. In English, Japanese, Korean, Mandarin Chinese and
    Spanish. By the U.S. Meat Export Federation.

    * http://www.carnegielibrary.org/subject/food/
    Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh -- comprehensive Food and Cooking
    resource guide

    * http://www.bakingbusiness.com/refbook.asp
    The Encyclopedia of Baking offers reference, formulations and
    troubleshooting for common baking ingredients.

    ----------------------------------------
    9 Food newsgroups and mailing lists

    ----------------------------------------
    9.1 rec.food.cooking

    a.k.a. us: A group for the discussion of cooking in general. Recipes
    and requests for recipes are welcome here, as are discussions of cooking techniques, equipment, etc. In short, if it has to do with cooking, it probably belongs here - though that doesn't mean it doesn't belong
    somewhere else, too!

    ----------------------------------------
    9.2 rec.food.recipes

    A moderated newsgroup for recipes and requests for recipes. Each week a
    FAQ explains how to post recipes or requests. The lead moderator is
    Tracy Carman, <recipes@swcp.com>.
    The rfr moderators' software automatically sets followups to rfc.
    The reason is, no discussion is allowed in rfr - only recipes or
    requests for same. Since some people might wish to publicly discuss
    posted recipes notwithstanding, followups to rfc serve a useful purpose.

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    9.3 rec.food.drink, rec.food.drink.beer, rec.food.drink.tea,
    rec.food.restaurants, rec.food.drink.coffee
    rec.food.sourdough, rec.food.historic

    Pretty self-explanatory.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.4 rec.food.veg

    About vegetarianism. It also has its own FAQ list, with questions about
    the myths and truths of the vegetarian diet, information on where to get "cruelty-free" products, etc.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.5 rec.food.veg.cooking

    A moderated version of rec.food.veg

    ----------------------------------------
    9.6 rec.food.preserving

    "Rec.food.preserving is a newsgroup devoted to the discussion of
    recipes, equipment, and techniques of food preservation. Current food preservation techniques that rightly should be discussed in this forum
    include canning, freezing, dehydration, pickling, smoking, salting,
    distilling, and potting. Foodstuffs are defined as produce (both fruits
    and vegetables), meat, fish, dairy products, culinary and medicinal
    herbs. Discussions should be limited to home-grown or home-preserved
    foods." (From the rec.food.preserving FAQ)

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    9.7 also...

    rec.crafts.winemaking
    rec.crafts.brewing
    alt.food
    alt.food.wine
    alt.coffee
    alt.food.asian
    alt.food.fat-free
    alt.food.low-fat
    alt.bacchus
    alt.food.mcdonalds (an oxymoron if ever I heard one)
    alt.food.coca-cola (mmmm....coca cola...)
    alt.food.chocolate
    alt.food.taco.bell
    alt.creative-cook
    alt.creative-cooking
    alt.cooking-chat
    alt.food.barbecue
    alt.2eggs.sausage.beans.tomatoes.2toast.largetea.cheerslove alt.food.mexican-cooking
    alt.food.sushi

    ----------------------------------------
    9.8 mailing lists

    A very popular mailing list is

    Chile-Heads

    Purpose: The Chile-Heads list is intended to provide a forum
    for discussion of matters relating to chile peppers; including,
    but not limited to:

    o Growing peppers
    o Seed and plant sources
    o Exchanges of seeds/plants/pods/etc.
    o Exotic varieties
    o Storing and preserving chiles
    o Recipes using chiles
    o Other related posts

    http://globalgarden.com/Chile-Heads/list_info.phtml

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List
    All messages posted to the list are emailed immediately to
    everyone on the list.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List
    The digest will save all email messages posted to the list for
    the day and send in one email message.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from
    ftp.globalgarden.com, in pub/Chile-Heads/digest/vNN.nMMM
    (where "NN" is the volume number, and "MMM" is the issue number).

    How to Unsubscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List or Digest
    Mailing List
    To unsubscribe send email to Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    or Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    (depending on which version of the list you are subscribed to)
    with the body of the message containing:
    UNSUBSCRIBE


    Another popular mailing list is

    Bread-Bakers

    The bread-bakers digest and daily-bread mailing lists are for the
    free exchange of recipes and information related to any and all
    aspects of bread baking, by hand or by machine.
    http://www.bread-bakers.com/

    To join the bread-bakers mailing list, send mail to
    bread-bakers-request@lists.bread-bakers.com In the body of the
    message, place, in lower case with no indentation, the single word:

    subscribe

    This will subscribe you at the address that your message is sent
    from. This is almost certainly your correct address. Bestserv will
    send you a message asking you to confirm your subscription request.
    You must reply to the message changing the word REJECT in the
    subject to ACCEPT. You will get a confirmation when your
    subscription has been accepted. If you have problems subscribing,
    please write to us at bread-bakers-owner@lists.bread-bakers.com
    and we will assist you.

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    10 Other culinary FAQs (thank you to Damsel in dis Dress)

    ----------------------------------------
    10.1 Foods

    * ftp://ftp.michvhf.com/pub/rec.food.baking/FAQ
    (rec.food.baking FAQ, by B. Keith Ryder)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/sourdough/faq/preamble.html
    (rec.food.sourdough FAQ, maintained by Darrell Greenwood)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/index2.html#faq
    (Meat FAQs: Foie gras, Pig processing, Venison processing, Elk and
    caribou, Wagyu and Kobe beef; by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.macscouter.com/Cooking/DutchOven.html
    (Dutch oven cooking)

    * http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/index.html
    (BBQ FAQ, by William W. Wight)

    * http://www.bbqguide.com/meat_smoking_and_curing_faq.htm
    (Meat smoking and curing FAQ, maintained by Richard Thead)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/preserving/part1/
    (rec.food.preserving FAQ, maintained by Eric Decker)

    * http://edible-complex.home.att.net/faq-spices.html
    (Spices FAQ, by Daniel M. Germán)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/culinary-herbs/part1/
    (Culinary herbs FAQ, maintained by Henriette Kress)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/truffles.html
    (Truffles (fungi) FAQ, by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/chocolate/faq/
    (Chocolate FAQ, by Monee Kidd)

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    10.2 Beverages

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/caffeine-faq/
    (Coffee and caffeine FAQ, by Alex Lopez-Ortiz)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/tea/faq/
    (Tea FAQ, by Christopher Roberson)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/wine-faq/part1/
    (Wine FAQ, by Bradford S. Brown)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/crafts/winemaking-faq/
    (Winemaking FAQ, by Don Buchan)

    * http://www.beerinfo.com/rfdb/faq.html
    (Beer FAQ, by John A. Lock)

    * http://hbd.org/brewery/library/absfaq.html
    (Absinthe FAQ, by Matthew Baggott)

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    10.3 Religion, lifestyle and special diets

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/rfcj/kosherfaq.htm
    (Kosher food, by Pat Gold, Beth Greenfeld, and Ruth Heiges)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/vegetarian/faq/
    (rec.food.veg (vegetarian) FAQ, by Michael Traub)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/fatfree/faq/
    (Fat-free FAQ, by Michelle Dick)

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    10.4 Miscellaneous

    * http://FAQs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/cooking/common-topics
    (Commonly discussed topics, by Stephanie da Silva)

    * http://www.thepurplehouse.net/wedding/cookware.txt
    (Cookware FAQ, by Oliver Sharp)

    * http://www.sff.net/people/pff/sharp.txt
    (Knife FAQs: Plain vs. serrated edges, Knife sharpening,
    Steel types, by Joe Talmadge)

    * http://www.survival-center.com/foodfaq/ff1-toc.htm
    (Food storage FAQ, by Alan T. Hagan)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sci/food-science-faq/part1/
    (Food science FAQ, by Rachel Zemser, J. Ralph Blanchfield, and Paul
    King)

    ----------------------------------------
    10.5 Humour

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/kool-aid-faq/
    (Kool-Aid FAQ, by Paul and Bess Dawson-Schmidt)

    * http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/bofh-food-faq
    (bofh.food FAQ, by J.D. Falk)

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    11 "Unofficial" rec.food.cooking Web site

    Damsel in dis Dress used to maintain what many people regarded as the 'unofficial' rec.food.cooking site, with sections devoted to rfc chat,
    rfc 'signature' dishes, rfc cook-in reports, and rfc birthdays.
    Chatty Cathy is currently in charge of the site, which contains all of
    the above and more, particularly a link to the rfc map set up by
    Christine Dabney. The site is located at
    http://www.recfoodcooking.org

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    12 Sources

    Lots of wonderful people helped compile this list - again, much
    acknowledgement is due to Cindy Kandolf for putting this entire thing
    together and to Amy Gale for maintaining it and adding to it for many
    years.

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    12.1 Contributors

    The other wonderful people are :

    carolynd(at)sail.labs.tek.com
    ekman(at)netc.om.com
    arielle(at)aronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
    rs7x+(at)andrew.cmu.edu
    jane(at)cse.lbl.gov
    jonog(at)g2syd.genasys.com.au anita(at)devvax.mincom.oz.au sbookey(at)ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey) ccd(at)ccdadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au pmmuggli(at)uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu chu(at)acsu.buffalo.edu cdfk(at)otter.hpl.hp.com dudek(at)ksr.com aem(at)symbiosis.ahp.com wald(at)theory.lcs.mit.edu harvey(at)indyvax.iupui.edu ed(at)pa.dec.com ndkj(at)vax5.cit.cornell.edu ekman(at)netc.om.com
    otten(at)icase.edu jane(at)cse.lbl.gov loosemore-sandra(at)cs.yale.edu mworley(at)mathcs.emory.edu kts(at)michael.udev.cdc.com cc(at)dcs.edinburgh.ac.uk leander(at)ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
    cduff(at)sugar.NeoSoft.COM
    lvirden(at)cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
    hammond(at)niwot.scd.ucar.EDU (Steve Hammond)
    dfw(at)thumper.bellcore.com (Doris Woods)
    gibbsm(at)ll.mit.edu (MargAret D Gibbs)
    rickert(at)cco.caltech.edu (Keith Warren Rickert)
    Simon Kershaw Simon.Kershaw(at)Smallworld.co.uk
    Joel Offenberg offenbrg(at)trifle.gsfc.nasa.gov
    grant(at)oj.rsmas.miami.edu (Grant Basham)
    lmak(at)cbnewsf.cb.att.com (louisa.l.mak)
    twain(at)carson.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin) hz225wu(at)unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Micaela Pantke)
    sfisher(at)megatest.com (Scott Fisher)
    byrne(at)rcf.rsmas.miami.edu (Charlie Byrne)
    jmk5u(at)Virginia.EDU
    bae(at)gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Beverly Erlebacher) rlwilliams(at)gallua.gallaudet.edu (Skip) hwalden(at)science-store.chem.wayne.edu (Heather Walden)
    mcenter(at)amoco.com (Mike Center, PSC)
    kevin(at)eye.com (Kevin Stokker)
    steven(at)surya.cs.ucla.edu (Steven Berson)
    eric.decker(at)canrem.com (Eric Decker)
    peteo(at)ford.wpd.sgi.com (Peter Orelup)
    sk10003(at)cus.cam.ac.uk (Scott Kleinman)
    David Casseres casseres(at)apple.com Ted.Taylor(at)p4214.f104.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Taylor)
    george(at)dfds.ml.com (George Minkovsky)
    Alison(at)moose.demon.co.uk (Alison Scott)
    jae(at)world.std.com (Jon A Edelston)
    conrad(at)qpsx.oz.au (Conrad Drake)
    nadel(at)attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel)
    patricia(at)cs.utexas.edu (Patricia M. Burson)
    betsey(at)columbia.edu (Elizabeth Fike)
    leah(at)smith.chi.il.us (Leah Smith)
    steve(at)unipalm.co.uk (Steve Ladlow)
    STEVE SKHNY(at)CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
    "Sudheer Apte" apte(at)loki.hks.com
    Diane Ferrell, Leslie Basel
    rankin(at)scubed.com (Tom Rankin)
    vev(at)msen.com (Vince Vielhaber)
    HUYQ78A(at)prodigy.com (MS PHYLLIS T SPAETH)
    lenf(at)netc.om.com (Len Freedman)
    apforz(at)pfood.win.net (Andy Pforzheimer)
    wnukoski(at)crypt.erie.ge.com (George Wnukoski)
    Dan_Masi(at)Warren.mentorg.com
    robinc(at)oanet.com (Robin Cowdrey)
    merlin(at)ion.com.au (Merlin Zener)
    "Frank Fileccia" surplus(at)telusplanet.net
    "Rodger Whitlock" totototo(at)mail.pacificcoast.net
    Damsel in dis Dress damsel.in.dis.dress(at)gmail.com
    Shankar Bhattacharyya sbhattac(at)idt.net
    Sophie Laplante laplante(at)lri.fr
    Andrew Nicholson andrewn(at)lesto.com
    Ed Keith edkeith(at)home.com
    Read rweaver(at)igc.org
    T. Terrell Banks terry(at)banks-usa.com
    William Chuang wchuang(at)MIT.EDU
    Scott Jordan sjordan(at)ntrnet.net
    Terry Simpson terry(at)connected-systems.com
    Bill Boylan bill.boylan(at)cox.net
    Max Hauser maxREMOVE(at)THIStdl.com
    Vilco a(at)b.invalid
    Lyndon Watson teile(at)clear.net.nz

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    12.2 Bibliography

    This is a new section composed of the acknowledgements previously
    sprinkled through the text. More information on these books will be
    welcomed.

    1) "Trolldom in the Kitchen"
    Pat Bjaaland and Melody Favish

    2) "Larousse Gastronomique"
    ISBN 0 7493 0316 6

    Larousse Gastronomique
    The New American Edition of the World's Greatest Culinary
    Encyclopedia
    By Jenifer Harvey Lang
    Hardcover, 1193 pages
    ISBN: 0517570327
    List Price: $60.00
    Random House
    Publication Date: 10/01/88

    3) "Still Life with Menu" (K)
    Mollie Katzen
    Revised trade paperback 1995
    Still Life with Menu Cookbook
    Trade Paperback, 256 Pages, Revised, Ten Speed, March 1995
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk)
    Author: Katzen, Mollie
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk.)

    Still Life With Menu Cookbook by Katzen, Mollie
    fifty new meatless menus with original art
    Berkeley, California, Ten Speed Press, 1988
    ISBN 0898152569

    4) "Cookery in Colour" (P)
    Marguerite Patten

    5) "The Rotation Diet" (RD)

    6) "My Fun-to-cook-book" (S)
    Ursula Sedgwick

    7) "The New Food Lover's Companion"

    8) "Michel Guérard's Cuisine Minceur"
    Michel Guérard

    9) "Mastering the Art of French Cooking"
    Julia Child

    10) "The Oxford Companion to Food"
    Alan Davidson

    11) "Julia and Jacques Cooking At Home"
    by Julia Child and Jacques Pépin

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    Clean the wok with hot water and some form of scrubbing tool. The
    bamboo things they sometimes include actually work or one can use a
    nylon scrubbing pad (no brillo, SOS, or equivalent). After the wok is
    cleaned, put it back on the burner for a few minutes to heat it up and evaporate any moisture. Then, add a little oil to it and rub it around
    with a paper towel to keep it shiny and from rusting with any moisture
    it may attract in between uses.

    Another thing, when you are done cooking in the wok, put some water in
    it to soak while you eat. Cleanup takes just a few work with a nylon
    scrubbing pad and some hot water.

    Taking good care of your cookware only requires a few minutes of time
    and makes it much easier to use and cleanup. Food doesn't stick to a
    well seasoned wok. If it starts to stick, scrub it well with something
    like an S.O.S. pad and re-season.

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    5.2 Cast Iron (thank you to Tom Rankin)

    Summary:
    Make sure your cast iron is clean down to bare metal.
    Coat with fat, heat, repeat.
    Look after by never washing in soapy water and scrubbing as little as
    possible.

    Details:

    Initial cleaning: get off all the packaging oil, burnt food or
    whatever the pan has on it. Some suggestions for achieving this are
    - Wash in hot soapy water, dry thoroughly
    - Boil undiluted white vinegar in the pan for while
    - Commercial beadblasting (not sandblasting)
    - Steel wool
    - Hot embers
    - Kosher salt baked in the pan at 500°F (260°C) for 4 hours and
    scraped out again
    - Put in self-cleaning oven and turn on clean cycle

    Fats to use: a solid vegetable fat, or lard. Oil is not as suitable.

    Seasoning process: Wipe pot inside and out with melted fat. Do the lid
    too (if it's cast iron). At this point, authorities seem to diverge.
    The common theme is "get it hot and keep it hot for considerably more
    than an hour" (optionally followed by "re-coat it with fat during the process"). Two hours at 350°F (175°C), re-wiping with fat every
    30 minutes, seems sensible.

    When this has been done, the seasoning process has been begun but not
    yet completed. The first few times the pan is used, it should be for
    fairly fatty foods. Fried eggs rather than tomato soup, for example.

    Each time the pan is used, rinse with hot water and scrub if necessary.
    Don't scour or use detergent - otherwise you will need to re-season.
    Some people coat their cast iron very lightly with oil after washing,
    then wipe out after an initial heating next time they use it.

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    6 History and Lore of rec.food.cooking

    ----------------------------------------
    6.1 Origins of rec.food.cooking (thank you to Max Hauser)

    rec.food.cooking began as net.cooks, launched by friend and fellow food
    fanatic Steve Upstill in Berkeley in January 1982 with a posting on
    pragmatic pasta sauces, something Steve was then often cooking,
    including at my place. We were all cranking out a lot of fresh ribbon
    pasta with Atlas 150 (150mm) roller/cutter machines and we needed things
    to do with it. net.cooks became rec.food.cooking in the general Great
    Renaming (late 1986). Current Google archives show Steve's original
    29-Jan-82 posting, and also his 31-Jan-82 net.general announcement of net.cooks, "All about food, cooking, cookbooks, recipes and other
    alimentary effluvia." That was the "charter" of this newsgroup.
    (Discussions by the way using the specific language of newsgroup
    "charter" on net.cooks or rec.food.cooking don't appear until five years
    later in 1987, an exchange between Terry Sterkel, me, and Spafford,
    referring anyway to a different newsgroup.) Posted statistics also
    showed that net.cooks became popular immediately, one of the most
    popular newsgroups at the time. After the 1986 renaming, a Gene
    Spafford active-newsgroups list included rec.food.cooking with summary
    "Food, cooking, cookbooks, and recipes." Steve Upstill continued to
    contribute occasionally, and also to work on recipe-formatting software.
    I recall him commercializing a typesetting macro package ("-MU"), and
    recipe software for Mac platforms.

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    6.2 Some Higlights in the Life of rec.food.cooking

    - There have been quite a few rec.food.cooking cook-ins all over the
    USA, as well as a small one in Germany. The first one was hosted by
    Anne Bourget in Sacramento, California, in 1994.

    - Early in 1997, a rec.food.cooking T-shirt was produced, with the
    proceeds donated to charity. Some 220 T-shirts were sold to rfc'ers.

    - In 2002-3, a rec.food.cooking Cook.Book was published, also with the proceeds donated to charity (City Harvest, a NYC affiliate of Second
    Harvest) to help the victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. There were
    two printings, one late in 2002, the other early in 2003, and a total of
    about 740 copies were sold, also to rfc'ers.


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    6.3 What's all this about xxxx? (much of this section was copied
    verbatim from the rec.food.cooking MiniFAQ that the
    invaluable Amy Gale used to post - thank you, Amy)

    This section tries to cover a few of the most commonly confusing
    topics that may come up on the newsgroup.

    aluminium : has not been linked to Alzheimer's Disease in a
    reproducible experiment.

    Elbonia : a mythical country (probably in Eastern Europe). Comes
    from Scott Adams' "Dilbert", syndicated in newspapers and
    available at http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/

    Ingrid : Anne Bourget's Volvo, used for flattening chicken breasts.
    Now deceased, but the memory lives on.

    j/nghlm : a joke ingredient. Spelling varies.

    WWT : (Weekend With Tammy). Once upon a time, a long-time rfc
    poster named Tammy spent a weekend with another long-time
    poster who posted a long article describing their mainly
    food-related adventures. Some people took exception to
    that posting, complaining about the lack of recipes (which
    were posted separately). Many people now use the WWT
    acronym in the subject header to indicate a posting of
    similar nature.

    ObFood : 'obligatory food reference'. An old rfc tradition.
    Many people hold that, whenever one happens to post off
    topic, one is supposed to add something that has to do
    with food, ideally something that is actually interesting
    and/or useful.

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    7 This has come up once too often....

    This list is a (futile?) attempt to keep certain well-worn subjects from
    coming up yet again. Further suggestions always welcome.

    The $250 cookie recipe

    This recipe comes up often, usually here but also on other newsgroups
    (where it is even less appropriate). The story goes that a woman had a
    cookie at [usually Mrs. Field's or Neiman Marcus' cafe], and liked it
    so much she wanted the recipe. The clerk said "It will cost you
    two-fifty"; the woman thought that meant $2.50 and was shocked to find
    it meant $250. She is now spreading it to get revenge, since it was not returnable.

    There are a number of holes in the story, and no one has ever brought
    forth any evidence that it really happened. (If you want to argue that
    you know someone who knows someone who this really happened to, take it
    over to alt.folklore.urban, where they will proceed to have you for
    breakfast if you have no evidence.) More importantly, it has been
    posted more than enough times by now. Some people have tried the recipe
    and pronounced it good, but it ain't Mrs. Field's. If you would like
    the recipe, ask for someone to mail it to you.

    It has been pointed out to me that the recipe is in the standard source distribution for GNU Emacs and XEmacs. If your site has that source,
    look in the "etc" directory for a file named COOKIES.

    Most importantly, please DO NOT post it any more. There is also a Mrs
    Fields cookbook, published by Time-Life. This has recipes, but not the
    exact ones for the ones sold in the stores, as those recipes are not
    well suited to home baking.

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    8 Recipe archives and other cooking/food sites

    ----------------------------------------
    8.1 Recipe archives

    There are hundreds, if not thousands, of recipe archives on the net.
    Here are some of the more popular and larger ones.

    * http://recipes.alastra.com/
    The official rec.food.recipes archive, maintained by Stephanie da
    Silva.

    * http://www.lysator.liu.se/etexts/recept/us/main.html
    Usenet Cookbook, a collection of old alt.gourmand recipes.

    * http://www.recipesource.com/
    SOAR - Searchable Online Archive of Recipes.

    * http://www.ichef.com/ichef-recipes/

    * http://www.cs.cmu.edu/%7Emjw/recipes/
    Amy Gale's recipe archives.

    * http://recipes.wenzel.net/
    RecipeLand.com's archive with 25000+ recipes.

    * http://www.astray.com/recipes/
    A searchable database of 76,000+ recipes, maintained by Leon
    Brocard.

    * http://www.recipecenter.com
    100,000+ recipes.

    * http://allrecipes.com/
    A large, searchable recipe archive.

    * http://home.uni-one.nl/the-cooking-page/
    The Cooking Page. Numerous recipe links classified by language
    (English, French, German, Dutch), by food course, and by cuisine.

    * http://www.oingo.com/topic/14/14336.html
    A well designed and functional searchable database of thousands of
    food and recipe links.

    * http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/topics/cook.htm
    Ancient and medieval recipes, and cooking and food links.

    * http://www.ajlc.waterloo.on.ca/Recipes/index.html
    A very large, meticulous index of recipes, with a search engine.

    * http://www.cdkitchen.com/
    A comprehensive cooking Web site with over 200,000 recipes,
    including a rec.food.recipes archive. By Valerie Whitmore.

    * http://www.lingualearn.co.uk/food.htm
    A collection of links to recipes, etc. of varius countries.

    * "http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm
    A Boke of Gode Cookery. A collection of Medieval recipes by James
    Matterer.

    * Copycat recipes or links to them are often requested on rfc. Two of
    the better known sites with such recipes are
    http://www.copykat.com
    and
    http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/.

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    8.2 Other cooking/food sites

    * http://www.epicurious.com/
    A general food site with a dictionary (THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION,
    by Sharon Tyler Herbst), recipes from well-known food magazines,
    etc.

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/
    Mimi's Cyber Kitchen, a general food site maintained by Mimi
    Hiller.

    * http://www-ang.kfunigraz.ac.at/~katzer/engl/index.html
    Gernot Katzer's Spice Pages, a Web spice encyclopedia, by Gernot
    Katzer.

    * http://www.foodsubs.com/ (and numerous mirrors)
    The Cook's Thesaurus. By Lori Alden. Suggests substitutions for
    thousands of cooking ingredients.

    * http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Island/3012/glossary.htm
    An A-Z glossary of Indian spices and cooking terms.

    * http://www.EuropeanCuisines.com/
    and
    http://www.owlsprings.com/the_balti_page/
    "European Cuisines" and "The Balti Page".
    By Peter Morwood & Diane Duane.

    * http://www.virtualquincy.com/quincy/recreation/recipes.html
    Directory listing of over 375 recipe and cooking websites.

    * http://www.reluctantgourmet.com/
    Cooking guide for beginner cooks.

    * http://labsoftware.com/cookbook/default.htm
    "Cooking for Graduate Students and and other beginning Kitchen
    Dwellers".

    * http://vsack.homepage.t-online.de/afa_faq.html
    Links to sites related to Asian food and cooking, as posted
    regularly to alt.food.asian by blacksalt.

    * http://www.whatscookingamerica.net/Glossary/GlossaryIndex2.htm
    Linda's Culinary Dictionary. By Linda Stradley. A listing and
    history of cooking, food, and beverage terms.

    * http://www.todine.net/dictionary.html
    Italian-English-French-Spanish-German Gastronomical Dictionary.

    * http://www.xs4all.nl/~margjos/
    English-French-German-Danish-Dutch food dictionary. By Jos and
    Marg Sparreboom.

    * http://www.theepicentre.com/glossary.html
    A glossary of spices, etc.

    * http://www.soupsong.com/ifoodta.html
    "Food tales, or everything you always wanted to know about the
    migration and lore of food."

    * http://www.breadworld.com/canada/tips/glossary/glossary.asp
    A glossary of baking terms maintained by Fleischmann's Yeast, a
    commercial entity.

    * http://www.mhr-viandes.com/en/docu/docu/d9000003.htm
    Multilingual meat and poultry glossaries.

    * http://www.aboutproduce.com/
    Recipes, nutrition info, selection tips for vegetables, fruits, nuts
    and herbs. By the Produce Marketing Association.

    * http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/rfe0.html
    Comprehensive, illustrated fish encylopaedia. An FDA resource.

    * http://navigator.tufts.edu/
    Tufts University Nutrition Navigator. Reviews and rating of
    nutrition information Web sites.

    * http://food.oregonstate.edu/glossary/all.html
    Science of Foods Glossary.

    * http://www.cahe.nmsu.edu/pubs/_e/e-131.pdf
    In A Pinch - Ingredient Substitution, a PDF file.

    * http://www.thousandeggs.com/cookbooks.html
    Links to old culinary & brewing documents online, by Cindy Renfrow.

    * http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/egg/fdnews.html
    A humongous list of culinary newsletters, magazines and journals.

    * http://www.azcentral.com/home/cooking101/
    Cooking 101.

    * http://www.gortons.com/cookbook/
    Gorton's fisherman's cookbook and fish glossary.

    * http://www.pipeline.com/~rosskat/
    A wealth of culinary information, resources, recipes, etc. on a
    rather disorganised site.

    * http://members.aol.com/Jwmike101/home.html
    Culinary resource desk. Lots of useful links.

    * http://www.psgrill.net/Encyclopedia/ENCYCLOPEDIA.html
    Large, useful food dictionary (but with some annoying
    mistranslations and misspellings).

    * http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/glossary/
    BBC's food glossary.

    * http://www.calacademy.org/research/anthropology/utensil/
    The History of Eating Utensils.

    * http://www.astaspice.org/history/history_main.htm
    ASTA's World of Spice - The history of the Spice Trade. By The
    American Spice Trade Association.

    * http://www.usmef.org/TradeLibrary/InternationalMeatManual.asp
    International Meat Manual. Corn-fed beef, grass-fed beef, veal,
    pork and lamb. In English, Japanese, Korean, Mandarin Chinese and
    Spanish. By the U.S. Meat Export Federation.

    * http://www.carnegielibrary.org/subject/food/
    Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh -- comprehensive Food and Cooking
    resource guide

    * http://www.bakingbusiness.com/refbook.asp
    The Encyclopedia of Baking offers reference, formulations and
    troubleshooting for common baking ingredients.

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    9 Food newsgroups and mailing lists

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    9.1 rec.food.cooking

    a.k.a. us: A group for the discussion of cooking in general. Recipes
    and requests for recipes are welcome here, as are discussions of cooking techniques, equipment, etc. In short, if it has to do with cooking, it probably belongs here - though that doesn't mean it doesn't belong
    somewhere else, too!

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    9.2 rec.food.recipes

    A moderated newsgroup for recipes and requests for recipes. Each week a
    FAQ explains how to post recipes or requests. The lead moderator is
    Tracy Carman, <recipes@swcp.com>.
    The rfr moderators' software automatically sets followups to rfc.
    The reason is, no discussion is allowed in rfr - only recipes or
    requests for same. Since some people might wish to publicly discuss
    posted recipes notwithstanding, followups to rfc serve a useful purpose.

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    9.3 rec.food.drink, rec.food.drink.beer, rec.food.drink.tea,
    rec.food.restaurants, rec.food.drink.coffee
    rec.food.sourdough, rec.food.historic

    Pretty self-explanatory.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.4 rec.food.veg

    About vegetarianism. It also has its own FAQ list, with questions about
    the myths and truths of the vegetarian diet, information on where to get "cruelty-free" products, etc.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.5 rec.food.veg.cooking

    A moderated version of rec.food.veg

    ----------------------------------------
    9.6 rec.food.preserving

    "Rec.food.preserving is a newsgroup devoted to the discussion of
    recipes, equipment, and techniques of food preservation. Current food preservation techniques that rightly should be discussed in this forum
    include canning, freezing, dehydration, pickling, smoking, salting,
    distilling, and potting. Foodstuffs are defined as produce (both fruits
    and vegetables), meat, fish, dairy products, culinary and medicinal
    herbs. Discussions should be limited to home-grown or home-preserved
    foods." (From the rec.food.preserving FAQ)

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    9.7 also...

    rec.crafts.winemaking
    rec.crafts.brewing
    alt.food
    alt.food.wine
    alt.coffee
    alt.food.asian
    alt.food.fat-free
    alt.food.low-fat
    alt.bacchus
    alt.food.mcdonalds (an oxymoron if ever I heard one)
    alt.food.coca-cola (mmmm....coca cola...)
    alt.food.chocolate
    alt.food.taco.bell
    alt.creative-cook
    alt.creative-cooking
    alt.cooking-chat
    alt.food.barbecue
    alt.2eggs.sausage.beans.tomatoes.2toast.largetea.cheerslove alt.food.mexican-cooking
    alt.food.sushi

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    9.8 mailing lists

    A very popular mailing list is

    Chile-Heads

    Purpose: The Chile-Heads list is intended to provide a forum
    for discussion of matters relating to chile peppers; including,
    but not limited to:

    o Growing peppers
    o Seed and plant sources
    o Exchanges of seeds/plants/pods/etc.
    o Exotic varieties
    o Storing and preserving chiles
    o Recipes using chiles
    o Other related posts

    http://globalgarden.com/Chile-Heads/list_info.phtml

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List
    All messages posted to the list are emailed immediately to
    everyone on the list.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List
    The digest will save all email messages posted to the list for
    the day and send in one email message.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from
    ftp.globalgarden.com, in pub/Chile-Heads/digest/vNN.nMMM
    (where "NN" is the volume number, and "MMM" is the issue number).

    How to Unsubscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List or Digest
    Mailing List
    To unsubscribe send email to Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    or Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    (depending on which version of the list you are subscribed to)
    with the body of the message containing:
    UNSUBSCRIBE


    Another popular mailing list is

    Bread-Bakers

    The bread-bakers digest and daily-bread mailing lists are for the
    free exchange of recipes and information related to any and all
    aspects of bread baking, by hand or by machine.
    http://www.bread-bakers.com/

    To join the bread-bakers mailing list, send mail to
    bread-bakers-request@lists.bread-bakers.com In the body of the
    message, place, in lower case with no indentation, the single word:

    subscribe

    This will subscribe you at the address that your message is sent
    from. This is almost certainly your correct address. Bestserv will
    send you a message asking you to confirm your subscription request.
    You must reply to the message changing the word REJECT in the
    subject to ACCEPT. You will get a confirmation when your
    subscription has been accepted. If you have problems subscribing,
    please write to us at bread-bakers-owner@lists.bread-bakers.com
    and we will assist you.

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    10 Other culinary FAQs (thank you to Damsel in dis Dress)

    ----------------------------------------
    10.1 Foods

    * ftp://ftp.michvhf.com/pub/rec.food.baking/FAQ
    (rec.food.baking FAQ, by B. Keith Ryder)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/sourdough/faq/preamble.html
    (rec.food.sourdough FAQ, maintained by Darrell Greenwood)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/index2.html#faq
    (Meat FAQs: Foie gras, Pig processing, Venison processing, Elk and
    caribou, Wagyu and Kobe beef; by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.macscouter.com/Cooking/DutchOven.html
    (Dutch oven cooking)

    * http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/index.html
    (BBQ FAQ, by William W. Wight)

    * http://www.bbqguide.com/meat_smoking_and_curing_faq.htm
    (Meat smoking and curing FAQ, maintained by Richard Thead)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/preserving/part1/
    (rec.food.preserving FAQ, maintained by Eric Decker)

    * http://edible-complex.home.att.net/faq-spices.html
    (Spices FAQ, by Daniel M. Germán)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/culinary-herbs/part1/
    (Culinary herbs FAQ, maintained by Henriette Kress)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/truffles.html
    (Truffles (fungi) FAQ, by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/chocolate/faq/
    (Chocolate FAQ, by Monee Kidd)

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    10.2 Beverages

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/caffeine-faq/
    (Coffee and caffeine FAQ, by Alex Lopez-Ortiz)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/tea/faq/
    (Tea FAQ, by Christopher Roberson)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/wine-faq/part1/
    (Wine FAQ, by Bradford S. Brown)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/crafts/winemaking-faq/
    (Winemaking FAQ, by Don Buchan)

    * http://www.beerinfo.com/rfdb/faq.html
    (Beer FAQ, by John A. Lock)

    * http://hbd.org/brewery/library/absfaq.html
    (Absinthe FAQ, by Matthew Baggott)

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    10.3 Religion, lifestyle and special diets

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/rfcj/kosherfaq.htm
    (Kosher food, by Pat Gold, Beth Greenfeld, and Ruth Heiges)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/vegetarian/faq/
    (rec.food.veg (vegetarian) FAQ, by Michael Traub)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/fatfree/faq/
    (Fat-free FAQ, by Michelle Dick)

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    10.4 Miscellaneous

    * http://FAQs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/cooking/common-topics
    (Commonly discussed topics, by Stephanie da Silva)

    * http://www.thepurplehouse.net/wedding/cookware.txt
    (Cookware FAQ, by Oliver Sharp)

    * http://www.sff.net/people/pff/sharp.txt
    (Knife FAQs: Plain vs. serrated edges, Knife sharpening,
    Steel types, by Joe Talmadge)

    * http://www.survival-center.com/foodfaq/ff1-toc.htm
    (Food storage FAQ, by Alan T. Hagan)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sci/food-science-faq/part1/
    (Food science FAQ, by Rachel Zemser, J. Ralph Blanchfield, and Paul
    King)

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    10.5 Humour

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/kool-aid-faq/
    (Kool-Aid FAQ, by Paul and Bess Dawson-Schmidt)

    * http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/bofh-food-faq
    (bofh.food FAQ, by J.D. Falk)

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    11 "Unofficial" rec.food.cooking Web site

    Damsel in dis Dress used to maintain what many people regarded as the 'unofficial' rec.food.cooking site, with sections devoted to rfc chat,
    rfc 'signature' dishes, rfc cook-in reports, and rfc birthdays.
    Chatty Cathy is currently in charge of the site, which contains all of
    the above and more, particularly a link to the rfc map set up by
    Christine Dabney. The site is located at
    http://www.recfoodcooking.org

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    12 Sources

    Lots of wonderful people helped compile this list - again, much
    acknowledgement is due to Cindy Kandolf for putting this entire thing
    together and to Amy Gale for maintaining it and adding to it for many
    years.

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    12.1 Contributors

    The other wonderful people are :

    carolynd(at)sail.labs.tek.com
    ekman(at)netc.om.com
    arielle(at)aronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
    rs7x+(at)andrew.cmu.edu
    jane(at)cse.lbl.gov
    jonog(at)g2syd.genasys.com.au anita(at)devvax.mincom.oz.au sbookey(at)ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey) ccd(at)ccdadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au pmmuggli(at)uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu chu(at)acsu.buffalo.edu cdfk(at)otter.hpl.hp.com dudek(at)ksr.com aem(at)symbiosis.ahp.com wald(at)theory.lcs.mit.edu harvey(at)indyvax.iupui.edu ed(at)pa.dec.com ndkj(at)vax5.cit.cornell.edu ekman(at)netc.om.com
    otten(at)icase.edu jane(at)cse.lbl.gov loosemore-sandra(at)cs.yale.edu mworley(at)mathcs.emory.edu kts(at)michael.udev.cdc.com cc(at)dcs.edinburgh.ac.uk leander(at)ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
    cduff(at)sugar.NeoSoft.COM
    lvirden(at)cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
    hammond(at)niwot.scd.ucar.EDU (Steve Hammond)
    dfw(at)thumper.bellcore.com (Doris Woods)
    gibbsm(at)ll.mit.edu (MargAret D Gibbs)
    rickert(at)cco.caltech.edu (Keith Warren Rickert)
    Simon Kershaw Simon.Kershaw(at)Smallworld.co.uk
    Joel Offenberg offenbrg(at)trifle.gsfc.nasa.gov
    grant(at)oj.rsmas.miami.edu (Grant Basham)
    lmak(at)cbnewsf.cb.att.com (louisa.l.mak)
    twain(at)carson.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin) hz225wu(at)unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Micaela Pantke)
    sfisher(at)megatest.com (Scott Fisher)
    byrne(at)rcf.rsmas.miami.edu (Charlie Byrne)
    jmk5u(at)Virginia.EDU
    bae(at)gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Beverly Erlebacher) rlwilliams(at)gallua.gallaudet.edu (Skip) hwalden(at)science-store.chem.wayne.edu (Heather Walden)
    mcenter(at)amoco.com (Mike Center, PSC)
    kevin(at)eye.com (Kevin Stokker)
    steven(at)surya.cs.ucla.edu (Steven Berson)
    eric.decker(at)canrem.com (Eric Decker)
    peteo(at)ford.wpd.sgi.com (Peter Orelup)
    sk10003(at)cus.cam.ac.uk (Scott Kleinman)
    David Casseres casseres(at)apple.com Ted.Taylor(at)p4214.f104.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Taylor)
    george(at)dfds.ml.com (George Minkovsky)
    Alison(at)moose.demon.co.uk (Alison Scott)
    jae(at)world.std.com (Jon A Edelston)
    conrad(at)qpsx.oz.au (Conrad Drake)
    nadel(at)attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel)
    patricia(at)cs.utexas.edu (Patricia M. Burson)
    betsey(at)columbia.edu (Elizabeth Fike)
    leah(at)smith.chi.il.us (Leah Smith)
    steve(at)unipalm.co.uk (Steve Ladlow)
    STEVE SKHNY(at)CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
    "Sudheer Apte" apte(at)loki.hks.com
    Diane Ferrell, Leslie Basel
    rankin(at)scubed.com (Tom Rankin)
    vev(at)msen.com (Vince Vielhaber)
    HUYQ78A(at)prodigy.com (MS PHYLLIS T SPAETH)
    lenf(at)netc.om.com (Len Freedman)
    apforz(at)pfood.win.net (Andy Pforzheimer)
    wnukoski(at)crypt.erie.ge.com (George Wnukoski)
    Dan_Masi(at)Warren.mentorg.com
    robinc(at)oanet.com (Robin Cowdrey)
    merlin(at)ion.com.au (Merlin Zener)
    "Frank Fileccia" surplus(at)telusplanet.net
    "Rodger Whitlock" totototo(at)mail.pacificcoast.net
    Damsel in dis Dress damsel.in.dis.dress(at)gmail.com
    Shankar Bhattacharyya sbhattac(at)idt.net
    Sophie Laplante laplante(at)lri.fr
    Andrew Nicholson andrewn(at)lesto.com
    Ed Keith edkeith(at)home.com
    Read rweaver(at)igc.org
    T. Terrell Banks terry(at)banks-usa.com
    William Chuang wchuang(at)MIT.EDU
    Scott Jordan sjordan(at)ntrnet.net
    Terry Simpson terry(at)connected-systems.com
    Bill Boylan bill.boylan(at)cox.net
    Max Hauser maxREMOVE(at)THIStdl.com
    Vilco a(at)b.invalid
    Lyndon Watson teile(at)clear.net.nz

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    12.2 Bibliography

    This is a new section composed of the acknowledgements previously
    sprinkled through the text. More information on these books will be
    welcomed.

    1) "Trolldom in the Kitchen"
    Pat Bjaaland and Melody Favish

    2) "Larousse Gastronomique"
    ISBN 0 7493 0316 6

    Larousse Gastronomique
    The New American Edition of the World's Greatest Culinary
    Encyclopedia
    By Jenifer Harvey Lang
    Hardcover, 1193 pages
    ISBN: 0517570327
    List Price: $60.00
    Random House
    Publication Date: 10/01/88

    3) "Still Life with Menu" (K)
    Mollie Katzen
    Revised trade paperback 1995
    Still Life with Menu Cookbook
    Trade Paperback, 256 Pages, Revised, Ten Speed, March 1995
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk)
    Author: Katzen, Mollie
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk.)

    Still Life With Menu Cookbook by Katzen, Mollie
    fifty new meatless menus with original art
    Berkeley, California, Ten Speed Press, 1988
    ISBN 0898152569

    4) "Cookery in Colour" (P)
    Marguerite Patten

    5) "The Rotation Diet" (RD)

    6) "My Fun-to-cook-book" (S)
    Ursula Sedgwick

    7) "The New Food Lover's Companion"

    8) "Michel Guérard's Cuisine Minceur"
    Michel Guérard

    9) "Mastering the Art of French Cooking"
    Julia Child

    10) "The Oxford Companion to Food"
    Alan Davidson

    11) "Julia and Jacques Cooking At Home"
    by Julia Child and Jacques Pépin

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    Clean the wok with hot water and some form of scrubbing tool. The
    bamboo things they sometimes include actually work or one can use a
    nylon scrubbing pad (no brillo, SOS, or equivalent). After the wok is
    cleaned, put it back on the burner for a few minutes to heat it up and evaporate any moisture. Then, add a little oil to it and rub it around
    with a paper towel to keep it shiny and from rusting with any moisture
    it may attract in between uses.

    Another thing, when you are done cooking in the wok, put some water in
    it to soak while you eat. Cleanup takes just a few work with a nylon
    scrubbing pad and some hot water.

    Taking good care of your cookware only requires a few minutes of time
    and makes it much easier to use and cleanup. Food doesn't stick to a
    well seasoned wok. If it starts to stick, scrub it well with something
    like an S.O.S. pad and re-season.

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    5.2 Cast Iron (thank you to Tom Rankin)

    Summary:
    Make sure your cast iron is clean down to bare metal.
    Coat with fat, heat, repeat.
    Look after by never washing in soapy water and scrubbing as little as
    possible.

    Details:

    Initial cleaning: get off all the packaging oil, burnt food or
    whatever the pan has on it. Some suggestions for achieving this are
    - Wash in hot soapy water, dry thoroughly
    - Boil undiluted white vinegar in the pan for while
    - Commercial beadblasting (not sandblasting)
    - Steel wool
    - Hot embers
    - Kosher salt baked in the pan at 500°F (260°C) for 4 hours and
    scraped out again
    - Put in self-cleaning oven and turn on clean cycle

    Fats to use: a solid vegetable fat, or lard. Oil is not as suitable.

    Seasoning process: Wipe pot inside and out with melted fat. Do the lid
    too (if it's cast iron). At this point, authorities seem to diverge.
    The common theme is "get it hot and keep it hot for considerably more
    than an hour" (optionally followed by "re-coat it with fat during the process"). Two hours at 350°F (175°C), re-wiping with fat every
    30 minutes, seems sensible.

    When this has been done, the seasoning process has been begun but not
    yet completed. The first few times the pan is used, it should be for
    fairly fatty foods. Fried eggs rather than tomato soup, for example.

    Each time the pan is used, rinse with hot water and scrub if necessary.
    Don't scour or use detergent - otherwise you will need to re-season.
    Some people coat their cast iron very lightly with oil after washing,
    then wipe out after an initial heating next time they use it.

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    6 History and Lore of rec.food.cooking

    ----------------------------------------
    6.1 Origins of rec.food.cooking (thank you to Max Hauser)

    rec.food.cooking began as net.cooks, launched by friend and fellow food
    fanatic Steve Upstill in Berkeley in January 1982 with a posting on
    pragmatic pasta sauces, something Steve was then often cooking,
    including at my place. We were all cranking out a lot of fresh ribbon
    pasta with Atlas 150 (150mm) roller/cutter machines and we needed things
    to do with it. net.cooks became rec.food.cooking in the general Great
    Renaming (late 1986). Current Google archives show Steve's original
    29-Jan-82 posting, and also his 31-Jan-82 net.general announcement of net.cooks, "All about food, cooking, cookbooks, recipes and other
    alimentary effluvia." That was the "charter" of this newsgroup.
    (Discussions by the way using the specific language of newsgroup
    "charter" on net.cooks or rec.food.cooking don't appear until five years
    later in 1987, an exchange between Terry Sterkel, me, and Spafford,
    referring anyway to a different newsgroup.) Posted statistics also
    showed that net.cooks became popular immediately, one of the most
    popular newsgroups at the time. After the 1986 renaming, a Gene
    Spafford active-newsgroups list included rec.food.cooking with summary
    "Food, cooking, cookbooks, and recipes." Steve Upstill continued to
    contribute occasionally, and also to work on recipe-formatting software.
    I recall him commercializing a typesetting macro package ("-MU"), and
    recipe software for Mac platforms.

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    6.2 Some Higlights in the Life of rec.food.cooking

    - There have been quite a few rec.food.cooking cook-ins all over the
    USA, as well as a small one in Germany. The first one was hosted by
    Anne Bourget in Sacramento, California, in 1994.

    - Early in 1997, a rec.food.cooking T-shirt was produced, with the
    proceeds donated to charity. Some 220 T-shirts were sold to rfc'ers.

    - In 2002-3, a rec.food.cooking Cook.Book was published, also with the proceeds donated to charity (City Harvest, a NYC affiliate of Second
    Harvest) to help the victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. There were
    two printings, one late in 2002, the other early in 2003, and a total of
    about 740 copies were sold, also to rfc'ers.


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    6.3 What's all this about xxxx? (much of this section was copied
    verbatim from the rec.food.cooking MiniFAQ that the
    invaluable Amy Gale used to post - thank you, Amy)

    This section tries to cover a few of the most commonly confusing
    topics that may come up on the newsgroup.

    aluminium : has not been linked to Alzheimer's Disease in a
    reproducible experiment.

    Elbonia : a mythical country (probably in Eastern Europe). Comes
    from Scott Adams' "Dilbert", syndicated in newspapers and
    available at http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/

    Ingrid : Anne Bourget's Volvo, used for flattening chicken breasts.
    Now deceased, but the memory lives on.

    j/nghlm : a joke ingredient. Spelling varies.

    WWT : (Weekend With Tammy). Once upon a time, a long-time rfc
    poster named Tammy spent a weekend with another long-time
    poster who posted a long article describing their mainly
    food-related adventures. Some people took exception to
    that posting, complaining about the lack of recipes (which
    were posted separately). Many people now use the WWT
    acronym in the subject header to indicate a posting of
    similar nature.

    ObFood : 'obligatory food reference'. An old rfc tradition.
    Many people hold that, whenever one happens to post off
    topic, one is supposed to add something that has to do
    with food, ideally something that is actually interesting
    and/or useful.

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    7 This has come up once too often....

    This list is a (futile?) attempt to keep certain well-worn subjects from
    coming up yet again. Further suggestions always welcome.

    The $250 cookie recipe

    This recipe comes up often, usually here but also on other newsgroups
    (where it is even less appropriate). The story goes that a woman had a
    cookie at [usually Mrs. Field's or Neiman Marcus' cafe], and liked it
    so much she wanted the recipe. The clerk said "It will cost you
    two-fifty"; the woman thought that meant $2.50 and was shocked to find
    it meant $250. She is now spreading it to get revenge, since it was not returnable.

    There are a number of holes in the story, and no one has ever brought
    forth any evidence that it really happened. (If you want to argue that
    you know someone who knows someone who this really happened to, take it
    over to alt.folklore.urban, where they will proceed to have you for
    breakfast if you have no evidence.) More importantly, it has been
    posted more than enough times by now. Some people have tried the recipe
    and pronounced it good, but it ain't Mrs. Field's. If you would like
    the recipe, ask for someone to mail it to you.

    It has been pointed out to me that the recipe is in the standard source distribution for GNU Emacs and XEmacs. If your site has that source,
    look in the "etc" directory for a file named COOKIES.

    Most importantly, please DO NOT post it any more. There is also a Mrs
    Fields cookbook, published by Time-Life. This has recipes, but not the
    exact ones for the ones sold in the stores, as those recipes are not
    well suited to home baking.

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    8 Recipe archives and other cooking/food sites

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    8.1 Recipe archives

    There are hundreds, if not thousands, of recipe archives on the net.
    Here are some of the more popular and larger ones.

    * http://recipes.alastra.com/
    The official rec.food.recipes archive, maintained by Stephanie da
    Silva.

    * http://www.lysator.liu.se/etexts/recept/us/main.html
    Usenet Cookbook, a collection of old alt.gourmand recipes.

    * http://www.recipesource.com/
    SOAR - Searchable Online Archive of Recipes.

    * http://www.ichef.com/ichef-recipes/

    * http://www.cs.cmu.edu/%7Emjw/recipes/
    Amy Gale's recipe archives.

    * http://recipes.wenzel.net/
    RecipeLand.com's archive with 25000+ recipes.

    * http://www.astray.com/recipes/
    A searchable database of 76,000+ recipes, maintained by Leon
    Brocard.

    * http://www.recipecenter.com
    100,000+ recipes.

    * http://allrecipes.com/
    A large, searchable recipe archive.

    * http://home.uni-one.nl/the-cooking-page/
    The Cooking Page. Numerous recipe links classified by language
    (English, French, German, Dutch), by food course, and by cuisine.

    * http://www.oingo.com/topic/14/14336.html
    A well designed and functional searchable database of thousands of
    food and recipe links.

    * http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/topics/cook.htm
    Ancient and medieval recipes, and cooking and food links.

    * http://www.ajlc.waterloo.on.ca/Recipes/index.html
    A very large, meticulous index of recipes, with a search engine.

    * http://www.cdkitchen.com/
    A comprehensive cooking Web site with over 200,000 recipes,
    including a rec.food.recipes archive. By Valerie Whitmore.

    * http://www.lingualearn.co.uk/food.htm
    A collection of links to recipes, etc. of varius countries.

    * "http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm
    A Boke of Gode Cookery. A collection of Medieval recipes by James
    Matterer.

    * Copycat recipes or links to them are often requested on rfc. Two of
    the better known sites with such recipes are
    http://www.copykat.com
    and
    http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/.

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    8.2 Other cooking/food sites

    * http://www.epicurious.com/
    A general food site with a dictionary (THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION,
    by Sharon Tyler Herbst), recipes from well-known food magazines,
    etc.

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/
    Mimi's Cyber Kitchen, a general food site maintained by Mimi
    Hiller.

    * http://www-ang.kfunigraz.ac.at/~katzer/engl/index.html
    Gernot Katzer's Spice Pages, a Web spice encyclopedia, by Gernot
    Katzer.

    * http://www.foodsubs.com/ (and numerous mirrors)
    The Cook's Thesaurus. By Lori Alden. Suggests substitutions for
    thousands of cooking ingredients.

    * http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Island/3012/glossary.htm
    An A-Z glossary of Indian spices and cooking terms.

    * http://www.EuropeanCuisines.com/
    and
    http://www.owlsprings.com/the_balti_page/
    "European Cuisines" and "The Balti Page".
    By Peter Morwood & Diane Duane.

    * http://www.virtualquincy.com/quincy/recreation/recipes.html
    Directory listing of over 375 recipe and cooking websites.

    * http://www.reluctantgourmet.com/
    Cooking guide for beginner cooks.

    * http://labsoftware.com/cookbook/default.htm
    "Cooking for Graduate Students and and other beginning Kitchen
    Dwellers".

    * http://vsack.homepage.t-online.de/afa_faq.html
    Links to sites related to Asian food and cooking, as posted
    regularly to alt.food.asian by blacksalt.

    * http://www.whatscookingamerica.net/Glossary/GlossaryIndex2.htm
    Linda's Culinary Dictionary. By Linda Stradley. A listing and
    history of cooking, food, and beverage terms.

    * http://www.todine.net/dictionary.html
    Italian-English-French-Spanish-German Gastronomical Dictionary.

    * http://www.xs4all.nl/~margjos/
    English-French-German-Danish-Dutch food dictionary. By Jos and
    Marg Sparreboom.

    * http://www.theepicentre.com/glossary.html
    A glossary of spices, etc.

    * http://www.soupsong.com/ifoodta.html
    "Food tales, or everything you always wanted to know about the
    migration and lore of food."

    * http://www.breadworld.com/canada/tips/glossary/glossary.asp
    A glossary of baking terms maintained by Fleischmann's Yeast, a
    commercial entity.

    * http://www.mhr-viandes.com/en/docu/docu/d9000003.htm
    Multilingual meat and poultry glossaries.

    * http://www.aboutproduce.com/
    Recipes, nutrition info, selection tips for vegetables, fruits, nuts
    and herbs. By the Produce Marketing Association.

    * http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/rfe0.html
    Comprehensive, illustrated fish encylopaedia. An FDA resource.

    * http://navigator.tufts.edu/
    Tufts University Nutrition Navigator. Reviews and rating of
    nutrition information Web sites.

    * http://food.oregonstate.edu/glossary/all.html
    Science of Foods Glossary.

    * http://www.cahe.nmsu.edu/pubs/_e/e-131.pdf
    In A Pinch - Ingredient Substitution, a PDF file.

    * http://www.thousandeggs.com/cookbooks.html
    Links to old culinary & brewing documents online, by Cindy Renfrow.

    * http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/egg/fdnews.html
    A humongous list of culinary newsletters, magazines and journals.

    * http://www.azcentral.com/home/cooking101/
    Cooking 101.

    * http://www.gortons.com/cookbook/
    Gorton's fisherman's cookbook and fish glossary.

    * http://www.pipeline.com/~rosskat/
    A wealth of culinary information, resources, recipes, etc. on a
    rather disorganised site.

    * http://members.aol.com/Jwmike101/home.html
    Culinary resource desk. Lots of useful links.

    * http://www.psgrill.net/Encyclopedia/ENCYCLOPEDIA.html
    Large, useful food dictionary (but with some annoying
    mistranslations and misspellings).

    * http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/glossary/
    BBC's food glossary.

    * http://www.calacademy.org/research/anthropology/utensil/
    The History of Eating Utensils.

    * http://www.astaspice.org/history/history_main.htm
    ASTA's World of Spice - The history of the Spice Trade. By The
    American Spice Trade Association.

    * http://www.usmef.org/TradeLibrary/InternationalMeatManual.asp
    International Meat Manual. Corn-fed beef, grass-fed beef, veal,
    pork and lamb. In English, Japanese, Korean, Mandarin Chinese and
    Spanish. By the U.S. Meat Export Federation.

    * http://www.carnegielibrary.org/subject/food/
    Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh -- comprehensive Food and Cooking
    resource guide

    * http://www.bakingbusiness.com/refbook.asp
    The Encyclopedia of Baking offers reference, formulations and
    troubleshooting for common baking ingredients.

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    9 Food newsgroups and mailing lists

    ----------------------------------------
    9.1 rec.food.cooking

    a.k.a. us: A group for the discussion of cooking in general. Recipes
    and requests for recipes are welcome here, as are discussions of cooking techniques, equipment, etc. In short, if it has to do with cooking, it probably belongs here - though that doesn't mean it doesn't belong
    somewhere else, too!

    ----------------------------------------
    9.2 rec.food.recipes

    A moderated newsgroup for recipes and requests for recipes. Each week a
    FAQ explains how to post recipes or requests. The lead moderator is
    Tracy Carman, <recipes@swcp.com>.
    The rfr moderators' software automatically sets followups to rfc.
    The reason is, no discussion is allowed in rfr - only recipes or
    requests for same. Since some people might wish to publicly discuss
    posted recipes notwithstanding, followups to rfc serve a useful purpose.

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    9.3 rec.food.drink, rec.food.drink.beer, rec.food.drink.tea,
    rec.food.restaurants, rec.food.drink.coffee
    rec.food.sourdough, rec.food.historic

    Pretty self-explanatory.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.4 rec.food.veg

    About vegetarianism. It also has its own FAQ list, with questions about
    the myths and truths of the vegetarian diet, information on where to get "cruelty-free" products, etc.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.5 rec.food.veg.cooking

    A moderated version of rec.food.veg

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    9.6 rec.food.preserving

    "Rec.food.preserving is a newsgroup devoted to the discussion of
    recipes, equipment, and techniques of food preservation. Current food preservation techniques that rightly should be discussed in this forum
    include canning, freezing, dehydration, pickling, smoking, salting,
    distilling, and potting. Foodstuffs are defined as produce (both fruits
    and vegetables), meat, fish, dairy products, culinary and medicinal
    herbs. Discussions should be limited to home-grown or home-preserved
    foods." (From the rec.food.preserving FAQ)

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    9.7 also...

    rec.crafts.winemaking
    rec.crafts.brewing
    alt.food
    alt.food.wine
    alt.coffee
    alt.food.asian
    alt.food.fat-free
    alt.food.low-fat
    alt.bacchus
    alt.food.mcdonalds (an oxymoron if ever I heard one)
    alt.food.coca-cola (mmmm....coca cola...)
    alt.food.chocolate
    alt.food.taco.bell
    alt.creative-cook
    alt.creative-cooking
    alt.cooking-chat
    alt.food.barbecue
    alt.2eggs.sausage.beans.tomatoes.2toast.largetea.cheerslove alt.food.mexican-cooking
    alt.food.sushi

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    9.8 mailing lists

    A very popular mailing list is

    Chile-Heads

    Purpose: The Chile-Heads list is intended to provide a forum
    for discussion of matters relating to chile peppers; including,
    but not limited to:

    o Growing peppers
    o Seed and plant sources
    o Exchanges of seeds/plants/pods/etc.
    o Exotic varieties
    o Storing and preserving chiles
    o Recipes using chiles
    o Other related posts

    http://globalgarden.com/Chile-Heads/list_info.phtml

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List
    All messages posted to the list are emailed immediately to
    everyone on the list.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List
    The digest will save all email messages posted to the list for
    the day and send in one email message.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from
    ftp.globalgarden.com, in pub/Chile-Heads/digest/vNN.nMMM
    (where "NN" is the volume number, and "MMM" is the issue number).

    How to Unsubscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List or Digest
    Mailing List
    To unsubscribe send email to Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    or Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    (depending on which version of the list you are subscribed to)
    with the body of the message containing:
    UNSUBSCRIBE


    Another popular mailing list is

    Bread-Bakers

    The bread-bakers digest and daily-bread mailing lists are for the
    free exchange of recipes and information related to any and all
    aspects of bread baking, by hand or by machine.
    http://www.bread-bakers.com/

    To join the bread-bakers mailing list, send mail to
    bread-bakers-request@lists.bread-bakers.com In the body of the
    message, place, in lower case with no indentation, the single word:

    subscribe

    This will subscribe you at the address that your message is sent
    from. This is almost certainly your correct address. Bestserv will
    send you a message asking you to confirm your subscription request.
    You must reply to the message changing the word REJECT in the
    subject to ACCEPT. You will get a confirmation when your
    subscription has been accepted. If you have problems subscribing,
    please write to us at bread-bakers-owner@lists.bread-bakers.com
    and we will assist you.

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    10 Other culinary FAQs (thank you to Damsel in dis Dress)

    ----------------------------------------
    10.1 Foods

    * ftp://ftp.michvhf.com/pub/rec.food.baking/FAQ
    (rec.food.baking FAQ, by B. Keith Ryder)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/sourdough/faq/preamble.html
    (rec.food.sourdough FAQ, maintained by Darrell Greenwood)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/index2.html#faq
    (Meat FAQs: Foie gras, Pig processing, Venison processing, Elk and
    caribou, Wagyu and Kobe beef; by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.macscouter.com/Cooking/DutchOven.html
    (Dutch oven cooking)

    * http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/index.html
    (BBQ FAQ, by William W. Wight)

    * http://www.bbqguide.com/meat_smoking_and_curing_faq.htm
    (Meat smoking and curing FAQ, maintained by Richard Thead)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/preserving/part1/
    (rec.food.preserving FAQ, maintained by Eric Decker)

    * http://edible-complex.home.att.net/faq-spices.html
    (Spices FAQ, by Daniel M. Germán)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/culinary-herbs/part1/
    (Culinary herbs FAQ, maintained by Henriette Kress)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/truffles.html
    (Truffles (fungi) FAQ, by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/chocolate/faq/
    (Chocolate FAQ, by Monee Kidd)

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    10.2 Beverages

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/caffeine-faq/
    (Coffee and caffeine FAQ, by Alex Lopez-Ortiz)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/tea/faq/
    (Tea FAQ, by Christopher Roberson)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/wine-faq/part1/
    (Wine FAQ, by Bradford S. Brown)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/crafts/winemaking-faq/
    (Winemaking FAQ, by Don Buchan)

    * http://www.beerinfo.com/rfdb/faq.html
    (Beer FAQ, by John A. Lock)

    * http://hbd.org/brewery/library/absfaq.html
    (Absinthe FAQ, by Matthew Baggott)

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    10.3 Religion, lifestyle and special diets

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/rfcj/kosherfaq.htm
    (Kosher food, by Pat Gold, Beth Greenfeld, and Ruth Heiges)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/vegetarian/faq/
    (rec.food.veg (vegetarian) FAQ, by Michael Traub)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/fatfree/faq/
    (Fat-free FAQ, by Michelle Dick)

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    10.4 Miscellaneous

    * http://FAQs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/cooking/common-topics
    (Commonly discussed topics, by Stephanie da Silva)

    * http://www.thepurplehouse.net/wedding/cookware.txt
    (Cookware FAQ, by Oliver Sharp)

    * http://www.sff.net/people/pff/sharp.txt
    (Knife FAQs: Plain vs. serrated edges, Knife sharpening,
    Steel types, by Joe Talmadge)

    * http://www.survival-center.com/foodfaq/ff1-toc.htm
    (Food storage FAQ, by Alan T. Hagan)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sci/food-science-faq/part1/
    (Food science FAQ, by Rachel Zemser, J. Ralph Blanchfield, and Paul
    King)

    ----------------------------------------
    10.5 Humour

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/kool-aid-faq/
    (Kool-Aid FAQ, by Paul and Bess Dawson-Schmidt)

    * http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/bofh-food-faq
    (bofh.food FAQ, by J.D. Falk)

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    11 "Unofficial" rec.food.cooking Web site

    Damsel in dis Dress used to maintain what many people regarded as the 'unofficial' rec.food.cooking site, with sections devoted to rfc chat,
    rfc 'signature' dishes, rfc cook-in reports, and rfc birthdays.
    Chatty Cathy is currently in charge of the site, which contains all of
    the above and more, particularly a link to the rfc map set up by
    Christine Dabney. The site is located at
    http://www.recfoodcooking.org

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    12 Sources

    Lots of wonderful people helped compile this list - again, much
    acknowledgement is due to Cindy Kandolf for putting this entire thing
    together and to Amy Gale for maintaining it and adding to it for many
    years.

    ----------------------------------------
    12.1 Contributors

    The other wonderful people are :

    carolynd(at)sail.labs.tek.com
    ekman(at)netc.om.com
    arielle(at)aronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
    rs7x+(at)andrew.cmu.edu
    jane(at)cse.lbl.gov
    jonog(at)g2syd.genasys.com.au anita(at)devvax.mincom.oz.au sbookey(at)ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey) ccd(at)ccdadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au pmmuggli(at)uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu chu(at)acsu.buffalo.edu cdfk(at)otter.hpl.hp.com dudek(at)ksr.com aem(at)symbiosis.ahp.com wald(at)theory.lcs.mit.edu harvey(at)indyvax.iupui.edu ed(at)pa.dec.com ndkj(at)vax5.cit.cornell.edu ekman(at)netc.om.com
    otten(at)icase.edu jane(at)cse.lbl.gov loosemore-sandra(at)cs.yale.edu mworley(at)mathcs.emory.edu kts(at)michael.udev.cdc.com cc(at)dcs.edinburgh.ac.uk leander(at)ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
    cduff(at)sugar.NeoSoft.COM
    lvirden(at)cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
    hammond(at)niwot.scd.ucar.EDU (Steve Hammond)
    dfw(at)thumper.bellcore.com (Doris Woods)
    gibbsm(at)ll.mit.edu (MargAret D Gibbs)
    rickert(at)cco.caltech.edu (Keith Warren Rickert)
    Simon Kershaw Simon.Kershaw(at)Smallworld.co.uk
    Joel Offenberg offenbrg(at)trifle.gsfc.nasa.gov
    grant(at)oj.rsmas.miami.edu (Grant Basham)
    lmak(at)cbnewsf.cb.att.com (louisa.l.mak)
    twain(at)carson.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin) hz225wu(at)unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Micaela Pantke)
    sfisher(at)megatest.com (Scott Fisher)
    byrne(at)rcf.rsmas.miami.edu (Charlie Byrne)
    jmk5u(at)Virginia.EDU
    bae(at)gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Beverly Erlebacher) rlwilliams(at)gallua.gallaudet.edu (Skip) hwalden(at)science-store.chem.wayne.edu (Heather Walden)
    mcenter(at)amoco.com (Mike Center, PSC)
    kevin(at)eye.com (Kevin Stokker)
    steven(at)surya.cs.ucla.edu (Steven Berson)
    eric.decker(at)canrem.com (Eric Decker)
    peteo(at)ford.wpd.sgi.com (Peter Orelup)
    sk10003(at)cus.cam.ac.uk (Scott Kleinman)
    David Casseres casseres(at)apple.com Ted.Taylor(at)p4214.f104.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Taylor)
    george(at)dfds.ml.com (George Minkovsky)
    Alison(at)moose.demon.co.uk (Alison Scott)
    jae(at)world.std.com (Jon A Edelston)
    conrad(at)qpsx.oz.au (Conrad Drake)
    nadel(at)attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel)
    patricia(at)cs.utexas.edu (Patricia M. Burson)
    betsey(at)columbia.edu (Elizabeth Fike)
    leah(at)smith.chi.il.us (Leah Smith)
    steve(at)unipalm.co.uk (Steve Ladlow)
    STEVE SKHNY(at)CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
    "Sudheer Apte" apte(at)loki.hks.com
    Diane Ferrell, Leslie Basel
    rankin(at)scubed.com (Tom Rankin)
    vev(at)msen.com (Vince Vielhaber)
    HUYQ78A(at)prodigy.com (MS PHYLLIS T SPAETH)
    lenf(at)netc.om.com (Len Freedman)
    apforz(at)pfood.win.net (Andy Pforzheimer)
    wnukoski(at)crypt.erie.ge.com (George Wnukoski)
    Dan_Masi(at)Warren.mentorg.com
    robinc(at)oanet.com (Robin Cowdrey)
    merlin(at)ion.com.au (Merlin Zener)
    "Frank Fileccia" surplus(at)telusplanet.net
    "Rodger Whitlock" totototo(at)mail.pacificcoast.net
    Damsel in dis Dress damsel.in.dis.dress(at)gmail.com
    Shankar Bhattacharyya sbhattac(at)idt.net
    Sophie Laplante laplante(at)lri.fr
    Andrew Nicholson andrewn(at)lesto.com
    Ed Keith edkeith(at)home.com
    Read rweaver(at)igc.org
    T. Terrell Banks terry(at)banks-usa.com
    William Chuang wchuang(at)MIT.EDU
    Scott Jordan sjordan(at)ntrnet.net
    Terry Simpson terry(at)connected-systems.com
    Bill Boylan bill.boylan(at)cox.net
    Max Hauser maxREMOVE(at)THIStdl.com
    Vilco a(at)b.invalid
    Lyndon Watson teile(at)clear.net.nz

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    12.2 Bibliography

    This is a new section composed of the acknowledgements previously
    sprinkled through the text. More information on these books will be
    welcomed.

    1) "Trolldom in the Kitchen"
    Pat Bjaaland and Melody Favish

    2) "Larousse Gastronomique"
    ISBN 0 7493 0316 6

    Larousse Gastronomique
    The New American Edition of the World's Greatest Culinary
    Encyclopedia
    By Jenifer Harvey Lang
    Hardcover, 1193 pages
    ISBN: 0517570327
    List Price: $60.00
    Random House
    Publication Date: 10/01/88

    3) "Still Life with Menu" (K)
    Mollie Katzen
    Revised trade paperback 1995
    Still Life with Menu Cookbook
    Trade Paperback, 256 Pages, Revised, Ten Speed, March 1995
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk)
    Author: Katzen, Mollie
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk.)

    Still Life With Menu Cookbook by Katzen, Mollie
    fifty new meatless menus with original art
    Berkeley, California, Ten Speed Press, 1988
    ISBN 0898152569

    4) "Cookery in Colour" (P)
    Marguerite Patten

    5) "The Rotation Diet" (RD)

    6) "My Fun-to-cook-book" (S)
    Ursula Sedgwick

    7) "The New Food Lover's Companion"

    8) "Michel Guérard's Cuisine Minceur"
    Michel Guérard

    9) "Mastering the Art of French Cooking"
    Julia Child

    10) "The Oxford Companion to Food"
    Alan Davidson

    11) "Julia and Jacques Cooking At Home"
    by Julia Child and Jacques Pépin

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    Clean the wok with hot water and some form of scrubbing tool. The
    bamboo things they sometimes include actually work or one can use a
    nylon scrubbing pad (no brillo, SOS, or equivalent). After the wok is
    cleaned, put it back on the burner for a few minutes to heat it up and evaporate any moisture. Then, add a little oil to it and rub it around
    with a paper towel to keep it shiny and from rusting with any moisture
    it may attract in between uses.

    Another thing, when you are done cooking in the wok, put some water in
    it to soak while you eat. Cleanup takes just a few work with a nylon
    scrubbing pad and some hot water.

    Taking good care of your cookware only requires a few minutes of time
    and makes it much easier to use and cleanup. Food doesn't stick to a
    well seasoned wok. If it starts to stick, scrub it well with something
    like an S.O.S. pad and re-season.

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    5.2 Cast Iron (thank you to Tom Rankin)

    Summary:
    Make sure your cast iron is clean down to bare metal.
    Coat with fat, heat, repeat.
    Look after by never washing in soapy water and scrubbing as little as
    possible.

    Details:

    Initial cleaning: get off all the packaging oil, burnt food or
    whatever the pan has on it. Some suggestions for achieving this are
    - Wash in hot soapy water, dry thoroughly
    - Boil undiluted white vinegar in the pan for while
    - Commercial beadblasting (not sandblasting)
    - Steel wool
    - Hot embers
    - Kosher salt baked in the pan at 500°F (260°C) for 4 hours and
    scraped out again
    - Put in self-cleaning oven and turn on clean cycle

    Fats to use: a solid vegetable fat, or lard. Oil is not as suitable.

    Seasoning process: Wipe pot inside and out with melted fat. Do the lid
    too (if it's cast iron). At this point, authorities seem to diverge.
    The common theme is "get it hot and keep it hot for considerably more
    than an hour" (optionally followed by "re-coat it with fat during the process"). Two hours at 350°F (175°C), re-wiping with fat every
    30 minutes, seems sensible.

    When this has been done, the seasoning process has been begun but not
    yet completed. The first few times the pan is used, it should be for
    fairly fatty foods. Fried eggs rather than tomato soup, for example.

    Each time the pan is used, rinse with hot water and scrub if necessary.
    Don't scour or use detergent - otherwise you will need to re-season.
    Some people coat their cast iron very lightly with oil after washing,
    then wipe out after an initial heating next time they use it.

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    6 History and Lore of rec.food.cooking

    ----------------------------------------
    6.1 Origins of rec.food.cooking (thank you to Max Hauser)

    rec.food.cooking began as net.cooks, launched by friend and fellow food
    fanatic Steve Upstill in Berkeley in January 1982 with a posting on
    pragmatic pasta sauces, something Steve was then often cooking,
    including at my place. We were all cranking out a lot of fresh ribbon
    pasta with Atlas 150 (150mm) roller/cutter machines and we needed things
    to do with it. net.cooks became rec.food.cooking in the general Great
    Renaming (late 1986). Current Google archives show Steve's original
    29-Jan-82 posting, and also his 31-Jan-82 net.general announcement of net.cooks, "All about food, cooking, cookbooks, recipes and other
    alimentary effluvia." That was the "charter" of this newsgroup.
    (Discussions by the way using the specific language of newsgroup
    "charter" on net.cooks or rec.food.cooking don't appear until five years
    later in 1987, an exchange between Terry Sterkel, me, and Spafford,
    referring anyway to a different newsgroup.) Posted statistics also
    showed that net.cooks became popular immediately, one of the most
    popular newsgroups at the time. After the 1986 renaming, a Gene
    Spafford active-newsgroups list included rec.food.cooking with summary
    "Food, cooking, cookbooks, and recipes." Steve Upstill continued to
    contribute occasionally, and also to work on recipe-formatting software.
    I recall him commercializing a typesetting macro package ("-MU"), and
    recipe software for Mac platforms.

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    6.2 Some Higlights in the Life of rec.food.cooking

    - There have been quite a few rec.food.cooking cook-ins all over the
    USA, as well as a small one in Germany. The first one was hosted by
    Anne Bourget in Sacramento, California, in 1994.

    - Early in 1997, a rec.food.cooking T-shirt was produced, with the
    proceeds donated to charity. Some 220 T-shirts were sold to rfc'ers.

    - In 2002-3, a rec.food.cooking Cook.Book was published, also with the proceeds donated to charity (City Harvest, a NYC affiliate of Second
    Harvest) to help the victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. There were
    two printings, one late in 2002, the other early in 2003, and a total of
    about 740 copies were sold, also to rfc'ers.


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    6.3 What's all this about xxxx? (much of this section was copied
    verbatim from the rec.food.cooking MiniFAQ that the
    invaluable Amy Gale used to post - thank you, Amy)

    This section tries to cover a few of the most commonly confusing
    topics that may come up on the newsgroup.

    aluminium : has not been linked to Alzheimer's Disease in a
    reproducible experiment.

    Elbonia : a mythical country (probably in Eastern Europe). Comes
    from Scott Adams' "Dilbert", syndicated in newspapers and
    available at http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/

    Ingrid : Anne Bourget's Volvo, used for flattening chicken breasts.
    Now deceased, but the memory lives on.

    j/nghlm : a joke ingredient. Spelling varies.

    WWT : (Weekend With Tammy). Once upon a time, a long-time rfc
    poster named Tammy spent a weekend with another long-time
    poster who posted a long article describing their mainly
    food-related adventures. Some people took exception to
    that posting, complaining about the lack of recipes (which
    were posted separately). Many people now use the WWT
    acronym in the subject header to indicate a posting of
    similar nature.

    ObFood : 'obligatory food reference'. An old rfc tradition.
    Many people hold that, whenever one happens to post off
    topic, one is supposed to add something that has to do
    with food, ideally something that is actually interesting
    and/or useful.

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    7 This has come up once too often....

    This list is a (futile?) attempt to keep certain well-worn subjects from
    coming up yet again. Further suggestions always welcome.

    The $250 cookie recipe

    This recipe comes up often, usually here but also on other newsgroups
    (where it is even less appropriate). The story goes that a woman had a
    cookie at [usually Mrs. Field's or Neiman Marcus' cafe], and liked it
    so much she wanted the recipe. The clerk said "It will cost you
    two-fifty"; the woman thought that meant $2.50 and was shocked to find
    it meant $250. She is now spreading it to get revenge, since it was not returnable.

    There are a number of holes in the story, and no one has ever brought
    forth any evidence that it really happened. (If you want to argue that
    you know someone who knows someone who this really happened to, take it
    over to alt.folklore.urban, where they will proceed to have you for
    breakfast if you have no evidence.) More importantly, it has been
    posted more than enough times by now. Some people have tried the recipe
    and pronounced it good, but it ain't Mrs. Field's. If you would like
    the recipe, ask for someone to mail it to you.

    It has been pointed out to me that the recipe is in the standard source distribution for GNU Emacs and XEmacs. If your site has that source,
    look in the "etc" directory for a file named COOKIES.

    Most importantly, please DO NOT post it any more. There is also a Mrs
    Fields cookbook, published by Time-Life. This has recipes, but not the
    exact ones for the ones sold in the stores, as those recipes are not
    well suited to home baking.

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    8 Recipe archives and other cooking/food sites

    ----------------------------------------
    8.1 Recipe archives

    There are hundreds, if not thousands, of recipe archives on the net.
    Here are some of the more popular and larger ones.

    * http://recipes.alastra.com/
    The official rec.food.recipes archive, maintained by Stephanie da
    Silva.

    * http://www.lysator.liu.se/etexts/recept/us/main.html
    Usenet Cookbook, a collection of old alt.gourmand recipes.

    * http://www.recipesource.com/
    SOAR - Searchable Online Archive of Recipes.

    * http://www.ichef.com/ichef-recipes/

    * http://www.cs.cmu.edu/%7Emjw/recipes/
    Amy Gale's recipe archives.

    * http://recipes.wenzel.net/
    RecipeLand.com's archive with 25000+ recipes.

    * http://www.astray.com/recipes/
    A searchable database of 76,000+ recipes, maintained by Leon
    Brocard.

    * http://www.recipecenter.com
    100,000+ recipes.

    * http://allrecipes.com/
    A large, searchable recipe archive.

    * http://home.uni-one.nl/the-cooking-page/
    The Cooking Page. Numerous recipe links classified by language
    (English, French, German, Dutch), by food course, and by cuisine.

    * http://www.oingo.com/topic/14/14336.html
    A well designed and functional searchable database of thousands of
    food and recipe links.

    * http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/topics/cook.htm
    Ancient and medieval recipes, and cooking and food links.

    * http://www.ajlc.waterloo.on.ca/Recipes/index.html
    A very large, meticulous index of recipes, with a search engine.

    * http://www.cdkitchen.com/
    A comprehensive cooking Web site with over 200,000 recipes,
    including a rec.food.recipes archive. By Valerie Whitmore.

    * http://www.lingualearn.co.uk/food.htm
    A collection of links to recipes, etc. of varius countries.

    * "http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm
    A Boke of Gode Cookery. A collection of Medieval recipes by James
    Matterer.

    * Copycat recipes or links to them are often requested on rfc. Two of
    the better known sites with such recipes are
    http://www.copykat.com
    and
    http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/.

    ----------------------------------------
    8.2 Other cooking/food sites

    * http://www.epicurious.com/
    A general food site with a dictionary (THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION,
    by Sharon Tyler Herbst), recipes from well-known food magazines,
    etc.

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/
    Mimi's Cyber Kitchen, a general food site maintained by Mimi
    Hiller.

    * http://www-ang.kfunigraz.ac.at/~katzer/engl/index.html
    Gernot Katzer's Spice Pages, a Web spice encyclopedia, by Gernot
    Katzer.

    * http://www.foodsubs.com/ (and numerous mirrors)
    The Cook's Thesaurus. By Lori Alden. Suggests substitutions for
    thousands of cooking ingredients.

    * http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Island/3012/glossary.htm
    An A-Z glossary of Indian spices and cooking terms.

    * http://www.EuropeanCuisines.com/
    and
    http://www.owlsprings.com/the_balti_page/
    "European Cuisines" and "The Balti Page".
    By Peter Morwood & Diane Duane.

    * http://www.virtualquincy.com/quincy/recreation/recipes.html
    Directory listing of over 375 recipe and cooking websites.

    * http://www.reluctantgourmet.com/
    Cooking guide for beginner cooks.

    * http://labsoftware.com/cookbook/default.htm
    "Cooking for Graduate Students and and other beginning Kitchen
    Dwellers".

    * http://vsack.homepage.t-online.de/afa_faq.html
    Links to sites related to Asian food and cooking, as posted
    regularly to alt.food.asian by blacksalt.

    * http://www.whatscookingamerica.net/Glossary/GlossaryIndex2.htm
    Linda's Culinary Dictionary. By Linda Stradley. A listing and
    history of cooking, food, and beverage terms.

    * http://www.todine.net/dictionary.html
    Italian-English-French-Spanish-German Gastronomical Dictionary.

    * http://www.xs4all.nl/~margjos/
    English-French-German-Danish-Dutch food dictionary. By Jos and
    Marg Sparreboom.

    * http://www.theepicentre.com/glossary.html
    A glossary of spices, etc.

    * http://www.soupsong.com/ifoodta.html
    "Food tales, or everything you always wanted to know about the
    migration and lore of food."

    * http://www.breadworld.com/canada/tips/glossary/glossary.asp
    A glossary of baking terms maintained by Fleischmann's Yeast, a
    commercial entity.

    * http://www.mhr-viandes.com/en/docu/docu/d9000003.htm
    Multilingual meat and poultry glossaries.

    * http://www.aboutproduce.com/
    Recipes, nutrition info, selection tips for vegetables, fruits, nuts
    and herbs. By the Produce Marketing Association.

    * http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/rfe0.html
    Comprehensive, illustrated fish encylopaedia. An FDA resource.

    * http://navigator.tufts.edu/
    Tufts University Nutrition Navigator. Reviews and rating of
    nutrition information Web sites.

    * http://food.oregonstate.edu/glossary/all.html
    Science of Foods Glossary.

    * http://www.cahe.nmsu.edu/pubs/_e/e-131.pdf
    In A Pinch - Ingredient Substitution, a PDF file.

    * http://www.thousandeggs.com/cookbooks.html
    Links to old culinary & brewing documents online, by Cindy Renfrow.

    * http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/egg/fdnews.html
    A humongous list of culinary newsletters, magazines and journals.

    * http://www.azcentral.com/home/cooking101/
    Cooking 101.

    * http://www.gortons.com/cookbook/
    Gorton's fisherman's cookbook and fish glossary.

    * http://www.pipeline.com/~rosskat/
    A wealth of culinary information, resources, recipes, etc. on a
    rather disorganised site.

    * http://members.aol.com/Jwmike101/home.html
    Culinary resource desk. Lots of useful links.

    * http://www.psgrill.net/Encyclopedia/ENCYCLOPEDIA.html
    Large, useful food dictionary (but with some annoying
    mistranslations and misspellings).

    * http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/glossary/
    BBC's food glossary.

    * http://www.calacademy.org/research/anthropology/utensil/
    The History of Eating Utensils.

    * http://www.astaspice.org/history/history_main.htm
    ASTA's World of Spice - The history of the Spice Trade. By The
    American Spice Trade Association.

    * http://www.usmef.org/TradeLibrary/InternationalMeatManual.asp
    International Meat Manual. Corn-fed beef, grass-fed beef, veal,
    pork and lamb. In English, Japanese, Korean, Mandarin Chinese and
    Spanish. By the U.S. Meat Export Federation.

    * http://www.carnegielibrary.org/subject/food/
    Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh -- comprehensive Food and Cooking
    resource guide

    * http://www.bakingbusiness.com/refbook.asp
    The Encyclopedia of Baking offers reference, formulations and
    troubleshooting for common baking ingredients.

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    9 Food newsgroups and mailing lists

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    9.1 rec.food.cooking

    a.k.a. us: A group for the discussion of cooking in general. Recipes
    and requests for recipes are welcome here, as are discussions of cooking techniques, equipment, etc. In short, if it has to do with cooking, it probably belongs here - though that doesn't mean it doesn't belong
    somewhere else, too!

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    9.2 rec.food.recipes

    A moderated newsgroup for recipes and requests for recipes. Each week a
    FAQ explains how to post recipes or requests. The lead moderator is
    Tracy Carman, <recipes@swcp.com>.
    The rfr moderators' software automatically sets followups to rfc.
    The reason is, no discussion is allowed in rfr - only recipes or
    requests for same. Since some people might wish to publicly discuss
    posted recipes notwithstanding, followups to rfc serve a useful purpose.

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    9.3 rec.food.drink, rec.food.drink.beer, rec.food.drink.tea,
    rec.food.restaurants, rec.food.drink.coffee
    rec.food.sourdough, rec.food.historic

    Pretty self-explanatory.

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    9.4 rec.food.veg

    About vegetarianism. It also has its own FAQ list, with questions about
    the myths and truths of the vegetarian diet, information on where to get "cruelty-free" products, etc.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.5 rec.food.veg.cooking

    A moderated version of rec.food.veg

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    9.6 rec.food.preserving

    "Rec.food.preserving is a newsgroup devoted to the discussion of
    recipes, equipment, and techniques of food preservation. Current food preservation techniques that rightly should be discussed in this forum
    include canning, freezing, dehydration, pickling, smoking, salting,
    distilling, and potting. Foodstuffs are defined as produce (both fruits
    and vegetables), meat, fish, dairy products, culinary and medicinal
    herbs. Discussions should be limited to home-grown or home-preserved
    foods." (From the rec.food.preserving FAQ)

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    9.7 also...

    rec.crafts.winemaking
    rec.crafts.brewing
    alt.food
    alt.food.wine
    alt.coffee
    alt.food.asian
    alt.food.fat-free
    alt.food.low-fat
    alt.bacchus
    alt.food.mcdonalds (an oxymoron if ever I heard one)
    alt.food.coca-cola (mmmm....coca cola...)
    alt.food.chocolate
    alt.food.taco.bell
    alt.creative-cook
    alt.creative-cooking
    alt.cooking-chat
    alt.food.barbecue
    alt.2eggs.sausage.beans.tomatoes.2toast.largetea.cheerslove alt.food.mexican-cooking
    alt.food.sushi

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    9.8 mailing lists

    A very popular mailing list is

    Chile-Heads

    Purpose: The Chile-Heads list is intended to provide a forum
    for discussion of matters relating to chile peppers; including,
    but not limited to:

    o Growing peppers
    o Seed and plant sources
    o Exchanges of seeds/plants/pods/etc.
    o Exotic varieties
    o Storing and preserving chiles
    o Recipes using chiles
    o Other related posts

    http://globalgarden.com/Chile-Heads/list_info.phtml

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List
    All messages posted to the list are emailed immediately to
    everyone on the list.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List
    The digest will save all email messages posted to the list for
    the day and send in one email message.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from
    ftp.globalgarden.com, in pub/Chile-Heads/digest/vNN.nMMM
    (where "NN" is the volume number, and "MMM" is the issue number).

    How to Unsubscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List or Digest
    Mailing List
    To unsubscribe send email to Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    or Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    (depending on which version of the list you are subscribed to)
    with the body of the message containing:
    UNSUBSCRIBE


    Another popular mailing list is

    Bread-Bakers

    The bread-bakers digest and daily-bread mailing lists are for the
    free exchange of recipes and information related to any and all
    aspects of bread baking, by hand or by machine.
    http://www.bread-bakers.com/

    To join the bread-bakers mailing list, send mail to
    bread-bakers-request@lists.bread-bakers.com In the body of the
    message, place, in lower case with no indentation, the single word:

    subscribe

    This will subscribe you at the address that your message is sent
    from. This is almost certainly your correct address. Bestserv will
    send you a message asking you to confirm your subscription request.
    You must reply to the message changing the word REJECT in the
    subject to ACCEPT. You will get a confirmation when your
    subscription has been accepted. If you have problems subscribing,
    please write to us at bread-bakers-owner@lists.bread-bakers.com
    and we will assist you.

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    10 Other culinary FAQs (thank you to Damsel in dis Dress)

    ----------------------------------------
    10.1 Foods

    * ftp://ftp.michvhf.com/pub/rec.food.baking/FAQ
    (rec.food.baking FAQ, by B. Keith Ryder)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/sourdough/faq/preamble.html
    (rec.food.sourdough FAQ, maintained by Darrell Greenwood)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/index2.html#faq
    (Meat FAQs: Foie gras, Pig processing, Venison processing, Elk and
    caribou, Wagyu and Kobe beef; by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.macscouter.com/Cooking/DutchOven.html
    (Dutch oven cooking)

    * http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/index.html
    (BBQ FAQ, by William W. Wight)

    * http://www.bbqguide.com/meat_smoking_and_curing_faq.htm
    (Meat smoking and curing FAQ, maintained by Richard Thead)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/preserving/part1/
    (rec.food.preserving FAQ, maintained by Eric Decker)

    * http://edible-complex.home.att.net/faq-spices.html
    (Spices FAQ, by Daniel M. Germán)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/culinary-herbs/part1/
    (Culinary herbs FAQ, maintained by Henriette Kress)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/truffles.html
    (Truffles (fungi) FAQ, by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/chocolate/faq/
    (Chocolate FAQ, by Monee Kidd)

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    10.2 Beverages

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/caffeine-faq/
    (Coffee and caffeine FAQ, by Alex Lopez-Ortiz)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/tea/faq/
    (Tea FAQ, by Christopher Roberson)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/wine-faq/part1/
    (Wine FAQ, by Bradford S. Brown)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/crafts/winemaking-faq/
    (Winemaking FAQ, by Don Buchan)

    * http://www.beerinfo.com/rfdb/faq.html
    (Beer FAQ, by John A. Lock)

    * http://hbd.org/brewery/library/absfaq.html
    (Absinthe FAQ, by Matthew Baggott)

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    10.3 Religion, lifestyle and special diets

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/rfcj/kosherfaq.htm
    (Kosher food, by Pat Gold, Beth Greenfeld, and Ruth Heiges)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/vegetarian/faq/
    (rec.food.veg (vegetarian) FAQ, by Michael Traub)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/fatfree/faq/
    (Fat-free FAQ, by Michelle Dick)

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    10.4 Miscellaneous

    * http://FAQs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/cooking/common-topics
    (Commonly discussed topics, by Stephanie da Silva)

    * http://www.thepurplehouse.net/wedding/cookware.txt
    (Cookware FAQ, by Oliver Sharp)

    * http://www.sff.net/people/pff/sharp.txt
    (Knife FAQs: Plain vs. serrated edges, Knife sharpening,
    Steel types, by Joe Talmadge)

    * http://www.survival-center.com/foodfaq/ff1-toc.htm
    (Food storage FAQ, by Alan T. Hagan)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sci/food-science-faq/part1/
    (Food science FAQ, by Rachel Zemser, J. Ralph Blanchfield, and Paul
    King)

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    10.5 Humour

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/kool-aid-faq/
    (Kool-Aid FAQ, by Paul and Bess Dawson-Schmidt)

    * http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/bofh-food-faq
    (bofh.food FAQ, by J.D. Falk)

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    11 "Unofficial" rec.food.cooking Web site

    Damsel in dis Dress used to maintain what many people regarded as the 'unofficial' rec.food.cooking site, with sections devoted to rfc chat,
    rfc 'signature' dishes, rfc cook-in reports, and rfc birthdays.
    Chatty Cathy is currently in charge of the site, which contains all of
    the above and more, particularly a link to the rfc map set up by
    Christine Dabney. The site is located at
    http://www.recfoodcooking.org

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    12 Sources

    Lots of wonderful people helped compile this list - again, much
    acknowledgement is due to Cindy Kandolf for putting this entire thing
    together and to Amy Gale for maintaining it and adding to it for many
    years.

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    12.1 Contributors

    The other wonderful people are :

    carolynd(at)sail.labs.tek.com
    ekman(at)netc.om.com
    arielle(at)aronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
    rs7x+(at)andrew.cmu.edu
    jane(at)cse.lbl.gov
    jonog(at)g2syd.genasys.com.au anita(at)devvax.mincom.oz.au sbookey(at)ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey) ccd(at)ccdadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au pmmuggli(at)uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu chu(at)acsu.buffalo.edu cdfk(at)otter.hpl.hp.com dudek(at)ksr.com aem(at)symbiosis.ahp.com wald(at)theory.lcs.mit.edu harvey(at)indyvax.iupui.edu ed(at)pa.dec.com ndkj(at)vax5.cit.cornell.edu ekman(at)netc.om.com
    otten(at)icase.edu jane(at)cse.lbl.gov loosemore-sandra(at)cs.yale.edu mworley(at)mathcs.emory.edu kts(at)michael.udev.cdc.com cc(at)dcs.edinburgh.ac.uk leander(at)ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
    cduff(at)sugar.NeoSoft.COM
    lvirden(at)cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
    hammond(at)niwot.scd.ucar.EDU (Steve Hammond)
    dfw(at)thumper.bellcore.com (Doris Woods)
    gibbsm(at)ll.mit.edu (MargAret D Gibbs)
    rickert(at)cco.caltech.edu (Keith Warren Rickert)
    Simon Kershaw Simon.Kershaw(at)Smallworld.co.uk
    Joel Offenberg offenbrg(at)trifle.gsfc.nasa.gov
    grant(at)oj.rsmas.miami.edu (Grant Basham)
    lmak(at)cbnewsf.cb.att.com (louisa.l.mak)
    twain(at)carson.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin) hz225wu(at)unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Micaela Pantke)
    sfisher(at)megatest.com (Scott Fisher)
    byrne(at)rcf.rsmas.miami.edu (Charlie Byrne)
    jmk5u(at)Virginia.EDU
    bae(at)gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Beverly Erlebacher) rlwilliams(at)gallua.gallaudet.edu (Skip) hwalden(at)science-store.chem.wayne.edu (Heather Walden)
    mcenter(at)amoco.com (Mike Center, PSC)
    kevin(at)eye.com (Kevin Stokker)
    steven(at)surya.cs.ucla.edu (Steven Berson)
    eric.decker(at)canrem.com (Eric Decker)
    peteo(at)ford.wpd.sgi.com (Peter Orelup)
    sk10003(at)cus.cam.ac.uk (Scott Kleinman)
    David Casseres casseres(at)apple.com Ted.Taylor(at)p4214.f104.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Taylor)
    george(at)dfds.ml.com (George Minkovsky)
    Alison(at)moose.demon.co.uk (Alison Scott)
    jae(at)world.std.com (Jon A Edelston)
    conrad(at)qpsx.oz.au (Conrad Drake)
    nadel(at)attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel)
    patricia(at)cs.utexas.edu (Patricia M. Burson)
    betsey(at)columbia.edu (Elizabeth Fike)
    leah(at)smith.chi.il.us (Leah Smith)
    steve(at)unipalm.co.uk (Steve Ladlow)
    STEVE SKHNY(at)CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
    "Sudheer Apte" apte(at)loki.hks.com
    Diane Ferrell, Leslie Basel
    rankin(at)scubed.com (Tom Rankin)
    vev(at)msen.com (Vince Vielhaber)
    HUYQ78A(at)prodigy.com (MS PHYLLIS T SPAETH)
    lenf(at)netc.om.com (Len Freedman)
    apforz(at)pfood.win.net (Andy Pforzheimer)
    wnukoski(at)crypt.erie.ge.com (George Wnukoski)
    Dan_Masi(at)Warren.mentorg.com
    robinc(at)oanet.com (Robin Cowdrey)
    merlin(at)ion.com.au (Merlin Zener)
    "Frank Fileccia" surplus(at)telusplanet.net
    "Rodger Whitlock" totototo(at)mail.pacificcoast.net
    Damsel in dis Dress damsel.in.dis.dress(at)gmail.com
    Shankar Bhattacharyya sbhattac(at)idt.net
    Sophie Laplante laplante(at)lri.fr
    Andrew Nicholson andrewn(at)lesto.com
    Ed Keith edkeith(at)home.com
    Read rweaver(at)igc.org
    T. Terrell Banks terry(at)banks-usa.com
    William Chuang wchuang(at)MIT.EDU
    Scott Jordan sjordan(at)ntrnet.net
    Terry Simpson terry(at)connected-systems.com
    Bill Boylan bill.boylan(at)cox.net
    Max Hauser maxREMOVE(at)THIStdl.com
    Vilco a(at)b.invalid
    Lyndon Watson teile(at)clear.net.nz

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    12.2 Bibliography

    This is a new section composed of the acknowledgements previously
    sprinkled through the text. More information on these books will be
    welcomed.

    1) "Trolldom in the Kitchen"
    Pat Bjaaland and Melody Favish

    2) "Larousse Gastronomique"
    ISBN 0 7493 0316 6

    Larousse Gastronomique
    The New American Edition of the World's Greatest Culinary
    Encyclopedia
    By Jenifer Harvey Lang
    Hardcover, 1193 pages
    ISBN: 0517570327
    List Price: $60.00
    Random House
    Publication Date: 10/01/88

    3) "Still Life with Menu" (K)
    Mollie Katzen
    Revised trade paperback 1995
    Still Life with Menu Cookbook
    Trade Paperback, 256 Pages, Revised, Ten Speed, March 1995
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk)
    Author: Katzen, Mollie
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk.)

    Still Life With Menu Cookbook by Katzen, Mollie
    fifty new meatless menus with original art
    Berkeley, California, Ten Speed Press, 1988
    ISBN 0898152569

    4) "Cookery in Colour" (P)
    Marguerite Patten

    5) "The Rotation Diet" (RD)

    6) "My Fun-to-cook-book" (S)
    Ursula Sedgwick

    7) "The New Food Lover's Companion"

    8) "Michel Guérard's Cuisine Minceur"
    Michel Guérard

    9) "Mastering the Art of French Cooking"
    Julia Child

    10) "The Oxford Companion to Food"
    Alan Davidson

    11) "Julia and Jacques Cooking At Home"
    by Julia Child and Jacques Pépin

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    Clean the wok with hot water and some form of scrubbing tool. The
    bamboo things they sometimes include actually work or one can use a
    nylon scrubbing pad (no brillo, SOS, or equivalent). After the wok is
    cleaned, put it back on the burner for a few minutes to heat it up and evaporate any moisture. Then, add a little oil to it and rub it around
    with a paper towel to keep it shiny and from rusting with any moisture
    it may attract in between uses.

    Another thing, when you are done cooking in the wok, put some water in
    it to soak while you eat. Cleanup takes just a few work with a nylon
    scrubbing pad and some hot water.

    Taking good care of your cookware only requires a few minutes of time
    and makes it much easier to use and cleanup. Food doesn't stick to a
    well seasoned wok. If it starts to stick, scrub it well with something
    like an S.O.S. pad and re-season.

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    5.2 Cast Iron (thank you to Tom Rankin)

    Summary:
    Make sure your cast iron is clean down to bare metal.
    Coat with fat, heat, repeat.
    Look after by never washing in soapy water and scrubbing as little as
    possible.

    Details:

    Initial cleaning: get off all the packaging oil, burnt food or
    whatever the pan has on it. Some suggestions for achieving this are
    - Wash in hot soapy water, dry thoroughly
    - Boil undiluted white vinegar in the pan for while
    - Commercial beadblasting (not sandblasting)
    - Steel wool
    - Hot embers
    - Kosher salt baked in the pan at 500°F (260°C) for 4 hours and
    scraped out again
    - Put in self-cleaning oven and turn on clean cycle

    Fats to use: a solid vegetable fat, or lard. Oil is not as suitable.

    Seasoning process: Wipe pot inside and out with melted fat. Do the lid
    too (if it's cast iron). At this point, authorities seem to diverge.
    The common theme is "get it hot and keep it hot for considerably more
    than an hour" (optionally followed by "re-coat it with fat during the process"). Two hours at 350°F (175°C), re-wiping with fat every
    30 minutes, seems sensible.

    When this has been done, the seasoning process has been begun but not
    yet completed. The first few times the pan is used, it should be for
    fairly fatty foods. Fried eggs rather than tomato soup, for example.

    Each time the pan is used, rinse with hot water and scrub if necessary.
    Don't scour or use detergent - otherwise you will need to re-season.
    Some people coat their cast iron very lightly with oil after washing,
    then wipe out after an initial heating next time they use it.

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    6 History and Lore of rec.food.cooking

    ----------------------------------------
    6.1 Origins of rec.food.cooking (thank you to Max Hauser)

    rec.food.cooking began as net.cooks, launched by friend and fellow food
    fanatic Steve Upstill in Berkeley in January 1982 with a posting on
    pragmatic pasta sauces, something Steve was then often cooking,
    including at my place. We were all cranking out a lot of fresh ribbon
    pasta with Atlas 150 (150mm) roller/cutter machines and we needed things
    to do with it. net.cooks became rec.food.cooking in the general Great
    Renaming (late 1986). Current Google archives show Steve's original
    29-Jan-82 posting, and also his 31-Jan-82 net.general announcement of net.cooks, "All about food, cooking, cookbooks, recipes and other
    alimentary effluvia." That was the "charter" of this newsgroup.
    (Discussions by the way using the specific language of newsgroup
    "charter" on net.cooks or rec.food.cooking don't appear until five years
    later in 1987, an exchange between Terry Sterkel, me, and Spafford,
    referring anyway to a different newsgroup.) Posted statistics also
    showed that net.cooks became popular immediately, one of the most
    popular newsgroups at the time. After the 1986 renaming, a Gene
    Spafford active-newsgroups list included rec.food.cooking with summary
    "Food, cooking, cookbooks, and recipes." Steve Upstill continued to
    contribute occasionally, and also to work on recipe-formatting software.
    I recall him commercializing a typesetting macro package ("-MU"), and
    recipe software for Mac platforms.

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    6.2 Some Higlights in the Life of rec.food.cooking

    - There have been quite a few rec.food.cooking cook-ins all over the
    USA, as well as a small one in Germany. The first one was hosted by
    Anne Bourget in Sacramento, California, in 1994.

    - Early in 1997, a rec.food.cooking T-shirt was produced, with the
    proceeds donated to charity. Some 220 T-shirts were sold to rfc'ers.

    - In 2002-3, a rec.food.cooking Cook.Book was published, also with the proceeds donated to charity (City Harvest, a NYC affiliate of Second
    Harvest) to help the victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. There were
    two printings, one late in 2002, the other early in 2003, and a total of
    about 740 copies were sold, also to rfc'ers.


    ----------------------------------------
    6.3 What's all this about xxxx? (much of this section was copied
    verbatim from the rec.food.cooking MiniFAQ that the
    invaluable Amy Gale used to post - thank you, Amy)

    This section tries to cover a few of the most commonly confusing
    topics that may come up on the newsgroup.

    aluminium : has not been linked to Alzheimer's Disease in a
    reproducible experiment.

    Elbonia : a mythical country (probably in Eastern Europe). Comes
    from Scott Adams' "Dilbert", syndicated in newspapers and
    available at http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/

    Ingrid : Anne Bourget's Volvo, used for flattening chicken breasts.
    Now deceased, but the memory lives on.

    j/nghlm : a joke ingredient. Spelling varies.

    WWT : (Weekend With Tammy). Once upon a time, a long-time rfc
    poster named Tammy spent a weekend with another long-time
    poster who posted a long article describing their mainly
    food-related adventures. Some people took exception to
    that posting, complaining about the lack of recipes (which
    were posted separately). Many people now use the WWT
    acronym in the subject header to indicate a posting of
    similar nature.

    ObFood : 'obligatory food reference'. An old rfc tradition.
    Many people hold that, whenever one happens to post off
    topic, one is supposed to add something that has to do
    with food, ideally something that is actually interesting
    and/or useful.

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    7 This has come up once too often....

    This list is a (futile?) attempt to keep certain well-worn subjects from
    coming up yet again. Further suggestions always welcome.

    The $250 cookie recipe

    This recipe comes up often, usually here but also on other newsgroups
    (where it is even less appropriate). The story goes that a woman had a
    cookie at [usually Mrs. Field's or Neiman Marcus' cafe], and liked it
    so much she wanted the recipe. The clerk said "It will cost you
    two-fifty"; the woman thought that meant $2.50 and was shocked to find
    it meant $250. She is now spreading it to get revenge, since it was not returnable.

    There are a number of holes in the story, and no one has ever brought
    forth any evidence that it really happened. (If you want to argue that
    you know someone who knows someone who this really happened to, take it
    over to alt.folklore.urban, where they will proceed to have you for
    breakfast if you have no evidence.) More importantly, it has been
    posted more than enough times by now. Some people have tried the recipe
    and pronounced it good, but it ain't Mrs. Field's. If you would like
    the recipe, ask for someone to mail it to you.

    It has been pointed out to me that the recipe is in the standard source distribution for GNU Emacs and XEmacs. If your site has that source,
    look in the "etc" directory for a file named COOKIES.

    Most importantly, please DO NOT post it any more. There is also a Mrs
    Fields cookbook, published by Time-Life. This has recipes, but not the
    exact ones for the ones sold in the stores, as those recipes are not
    well suited to home baking.

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    8 Recipe archives and other cooking/food sites

    ----------------------------------------
    8.1 Recipe archives

    There are hundreds, if not thousands, of recipe archives on the net.
    Here are some of the more popular and larger ones.

    * http://recipes.alastra.com/
    The official rec.food.recipes archive, maintained by Stephanie da
    Silva.

    * http://www.lysator.liu.se/etexts/recept/us/main.html
    Usenet Cookbook, a collection of old alt.gourmand recipes.

    * http://www.recipesource.com/
    SOAR - Searchable Online Archive of Recipes.

    * http://www.ichef.com/ichef-recipes/

    * http://www.cs.cmu.edu/%7Emjw/recipes/
    Amy Gale's recipe archives.

    * http://recipes.wenzel.net/
    RecipeLand.com's archive with 25000+ recipes.

    * http://www.astray.com/recipes/
    A searchable database of 76,000+ recipes, maintained by Leon
    Brocard.

    * http://www.recipecenter.com
    100,000+ recipes.

    * http://allrecipes.com/
    A large, searchable recipe archive.

    * http://home.uni-one.nl/the-cooking-page/
    The Cooking Page. Numerous recipe links classified by language
    (English, French, German, Dutch), by food course, and by cuisine.

    * http://www.oingo.com/topic/14/14336.html
    A well designed and functional searchable database of thousands of
    food and recipe links.

    * http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/topics/cook.htm
    Ancient and medieval recipes, and cooking and food links.

    * http://www.ajlc.waterloo.on.ca/Recipes/index.html
    A very large, meticulous index of recipes, with a search engine.

    * http://www.cdkitchen.com/
    A comprehensive cooking Web site with over 200,000 recipes,
    including a rec.food.recipes archive. By Valerie Whitmore.

    * http://www.lingualearn.co.uk/food.htm
    A collection of links to recipes, etc. of varius countries.

    * "http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm
    A Boke of Gode Cookery. A collection of Medieval recipes by James
    Matterer.

    * Copycat recipes or links to them are often requested on rfc. Two of
    the better known sites with such recipes are
    http://www.copykat.com
    and
    http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/.

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    8.2 Other cooking/food sites

    * http://www.epicurious.com/
    A general food site with a dictionary (THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION,
    by Sharon Tyler Herbst), recipes from well-known food magazines,
    etc.

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/
    Mimi's Cyber Kitchen, a general food site maintained by Mimi
    Hiller.

    * http://www-ang.kfunigraz.ac.at/~katzer/engl/index.html
    Gernot Katzer's Spice Pages, a Web spice encyclopedia, by Gernot
    Katzer.

    * http://www.foodsubs.com/ (and numerous mirrors)
    The Cook's Thesaurus. By Lori Alden. Suggests substitutions for
    thousands of cooking ingredients.

    * http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Island/3012/glossary.htm
    An A-Z glossary of Indian spices and cooking terms.

    * http://www.EuropeanCuisines.com/
    and
    http://www.owlsprings.com/the_balti_page/
    "European Cuisines" and "The Balti Page".
    By Peter Morwood & Diane Duane.

    * http://www.virtualquincy.com/quincy/recreation/recipes.html
    Directory listing of over 375 recipe and cooking websites.

    * http://www.reluctantgourmet.com/
    Cooking guide for beginner cooks.

    * http://labsoftware.com/cookbook/default.htm
    "Cooking for Graduate Students and and other beginning Kitchen
    Dwellers".

    * http://vsack.homepage.t-online.de/afa_faq.html
    Links to sites related to Asian food and cooking, as posted
    regularly to alt.food.asian by blacksalt.

    * http://www.whatscookingamerica.net/Glossary/GlossaryIndex2.htm
    Linda's Culinary Dictionary. By Linda Stradley. A listing and
    history of cooking, food, and beverage terms.

    * http://www.todine.net/dictionary.html
    Italian-English-French-Spanish-German Gastronomical Dictionary.

    * http://www.xs4all.nl/~margjos/
    English-French-German-Danish-Dutch food dictionary. By Jos and
    Marg Sparreboom.

    * http://www.theepicentre.com/glossary.html
    A glossary of spices, etc.

    * http://www.soupsong.com/ifoodta.html
    "Food tales, or everything you always wanted to know about the
    migration and lore of food."

    * http://www.breadworld.com/canada/tips/glossary/glossary.asp
    A glossary of baking terms maintained by Fleischmann's Yeast, a
    commercial entity.

    * http://www.mhr-viandes.com/en/docu/docu/d9000003.htm
    Multilingual meat and poultry glossaries.

    * http://www.aboutproduce.com/
    Recipes, nutrition info, selection tips for vegetables, fruits, nuts
    and herbs. By the Produce Marketing Association.

    * http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/rfe0.html
    Comprehensive, illustrated fish encylopaedia. An FDA resource.

    * http://navigator.tufts.edu/
    Tufts University Nutrition Navigator. Reviews and rating of
    nutrition information Web sites.

    * http://food.oregonstate.edu/glossary/all.html
    Science of Foods Glossary.

    * http://www.cahe.nmsu.edu/pubs/_e/e-131.pdf
    In A Pinch - Ingredient Substitution, a PDF file.

    * http://www.thousandeggs.com/cookbooks.html
    Links to old culinary & brewing documents online, by Cindy Renfrow.

    * http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/egg/fdnews.html
    A humongous list of culinary newsletters, magazines and journals.

    * http://www.azcentral.com/home/cooking101/
    Cooking 101.

    * http://www.gortons.com/cookbook/
    Gorton's fisherman's cookbook and fish glossary.

    * http://www.pipeline.com/~rosskat/
    A wealth of culinary information, resources, recipes, etc. on a
    rather disorganised site.

    * http://members.aol.com/Jwmike101/home.html
    Culinary resource desk. Lots of useful links.

    * http://www.psgrill.net/Encyclopedia/ENCYCLOPEDIA.html
    Large, useful food dictionary (but with some annoying
    mistranslations and misspellings).

    * http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/glossary/
    BBC's food glossary.

    * http://www.calacademy.org/research/anthropology/utensil/
    The History of Eating Utensils.

    * http://www.astaspice.org/history/history_main.htm
    ASTA's World of Spice - The history of the Spice Trade. By The
    American Spice Trade Association.

    * http://www.usmef.org/TradeLibrary/InternationalMeatManual.asp
    International Meat Manual. Corn-fed beef, grass-fed beef, veal,
    pork and lamb. In English, Japanese, Korean, Mandarin Chinese and
    Spanish. By the U.S. Meat Export Federation.

    * http://www.carnegielibrary.org/subject/food/
    Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh -- comprehensive Food and Cooking
    resource guide

    * http://www.bakingbusiness.com/refbook.asp
    The Encyclopedia of Baking offers reference, formulations and
    troubleshooting for common baking ingredients.

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    9 Food newsgroups and mailing lists

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    9.1 rec.food.cooking

    a.k.a. us: A group for the discussion of cooking in general. Recipes
    and requests for recipes are welcome here, as are discussions of cooking techniques, equipment, etc. In short, if it has to do with cooking, it probably belongs here - though that doesn't mean it doesn't belong
    somewhere else, too!

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    9.2 rec.food.recipes

    A moderated newsgroup for recipes and requests for recipes. Each week a
    FAQ explains how to post recipes or requests. The lead moderator is
    Tracy Carman, <recipes@swcp.com>.
    The rfr moderators' software automatically sets followups to rfc.
    The reason is, no discussion is allowed in rfr - only recipes or
    requests for same. Since some people might wish to publicly discuss
    posted recipes notwithstanding, followups to rfc serve a useful purpose.

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    9.3 rec.food.drink, rec.food.drink.beer, rec.food.drink.tea,
    rec.food.restaurants, rec.food.drink.coffee
    rec.food.sourdough, rec.food.historic

    Pretty self-explanatory.

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    9.4 rec.food.veg

    About vegetarianism. It also has its own FAQ list, with questions about
    the myths and truths of the vegetarian diet, information on where to get "cruelty-free" products, etc.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.5 rec.food.veg.cooking

    A moderated version of rec.food.veg

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    9.6 rec.food.preserving

    "Rec.food.preserving is a newsgroup devoted to the discussion of
    recipes, equipment, and techniques of food preservation. Current food preservation techniques that rightly should be discussed in this forum
    include canning, freezing, dehydration, pickling, smoking, salting,
    distilling, and potting. Foodstuffs are defined as produce (both fruits
    and vegetables), meat, fish, dairy products, culinary and medicinal
    herbs. Discussions should be limited to home-grown or home-preserved
    foods." (From the rec.food.preserving FAQ)

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    9.7 also...

    rec.crafts.winemaking
    rec.crafts.brewing
    alt.food
    alt.food.wine
    alt.coffee
    alt.food.asian
    alt.food.fat-free
    alt.food.low-fat
    alt.bacchus
    alt.food.mcdonalds (an oxymoron if ever I heard one)
    alt.food.coca-cola (mmmm....coca cola...)
    alt.food.chocolate
    alt.food.taco.bell
    alt.creative-cook
    alt.creative-cooking
    alt.cooking-chat
    alt.food.barbecue
    alt.2eggs.sausage.beans.tomatoes.2toast.largetea.cheerslove alt.food.mexican-cooking
    alt.food.sushi

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    9.8 mailing lists

    A very popular mailing list is

    Chile-Heads

    Purpose: The Chile-Heads list is intended to provide a forum
    for discussion of matters relating to chile peppers; including,
    but not limited to:

    o Growing peppers
    o Seed and plant sources
    o Exchanges of seeds/plants/pods/etc.
    o Exotic varieties
    o Storing and preserving chiles
    o Recipes using chiles
    o Other related posts

    http://globalgarden.com/Chile-Heads/list_info.phtml

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List
    All messages posted to the list are emailed immediately to
    everyone on the list.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List
    The digest will save all email messages posted to the list for
    the day and send in one email message.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from
    ftp.globalgarden.com, in pub/Chile-Heads/digest/vNN.nMMM
    (where "NN" is the volume number, and "MMM" is the issue number).

    How to Unsubscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List or Digest
    Mailing List
    To unsubscribe send email to Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    or Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    (depending on which version of the list you are subscribed to)
    with the body of the message containing:
    UNSUBSCRIBE


    Another popular mailing list is

    Bread-Bakers

    The bread-bakers digest and daily-bread mailing lists are for the
    free exchange of recipes and information related to any and all
    aspects of bread baking, by hand or by machine.
    http://www.bread-bakers.com/

    To join the bread-bakers mailing list, send mail to
    bread-bakers-request@lists.bread-bakers.com In the body of the
    message, place, in lower case with no indentation, the single word:

    subscribe

    This will subscribe you at the address that your message is sent
    from. This is almost certainly your correct address. Bestserv will
    send you a message asking you to confirm your subscription request.
    You must reply to the message changing the word REJECT in the
    subject to ACCEPT. You will get a confirmation when your
    subscription has been accepted. If you have problems subscribing,
    please write to us at bread-bakers-owner@lists.bread-bakers.com
    and we will assist you.

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    10 Other culinary FAQs (thank you to Damsel in dis Dress)

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    10.1 Foods

    * ftp://ftp.michvhf.com/pub/rec.food.baking/FAQ
    (rec.food.baking FAQ, by B. Keith Ryder)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/sourdough/faq/preamble.html
    (rec.food.sourdough FAQ, maintained by Darrell Greenwood)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/index2.html#faq
    (Meat FAQs: Foie gras, Pig processing, Venison processing, Elk and
    caribou, Wagyu and Kobe beef; by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.macscouter.com/Cooking/DutchOven.html
    (Dutch oven cooking)

    * http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/index.html
    (BBQ FAQ, by William W. Wight)

    * http://www.bbqguide.com/meat_smoking_and_curing_faq.htm
    (Meat smoking and curing FAQ, maintained by Richard Thead)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/preserving/part1/
    (rec.food.preserving FAQ, maintained by Eric Decker)

    * http://edible-complex.home.att.net/faq-spices.html
    (Spices FAQ, by Daniel M. Germán)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/culinary-herbs/part1/
    (Culinary herbs FAQ, maintained by Henriette Kress)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/truffles.html
    (Truffles (fungi) FAQ, by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/chocolate/faq/
    (Chocolate FAQ, by Monee Kidd)

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    10.2 Beverages

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/caffeine-faq/
    (Coffee and caffeine FAQ, by Alex Lopez-Ortiz)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/tea/faq/
    (Tea FAQ, by Christopher Roberson)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/wine-faq/part1/
    (Wine FAQ, by Bradford S. Brown)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/crafts/winemaking-faq/
    (Winemaking FAQ, by Don Buchan)

    * http://www.beerinfo.com/rfdb/faq.html
    (Beer FAQ, by John A. Lock)

    * http://hbd.org/brewery/library/absfaq.html
    (Absinthe FAQ, by Matthew Baggott)

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    10.3 Religion, lifestyle and special diets

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/rfcj/kosherfaq.htm
    (Kosher food, by Pat Gold, Beth Greenfeld, and Ruth Heiges)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/vegetarian/faq/
    (rec.food.veg (vegetarian) FAQ, by Michael Traub)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/fatfree/faq/
    (Fat-free FAQ, by Michelle Dick)

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    10.4 Miscellaneous

    * http://FAQs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/cooking/common-topics
    (Commonly discussed topics, by Stephanie da Silva)

    * http://www.thepurplehouse.net/wedding/cookware.txt
    (Cookware FAQ, by Oliver Sharp)

    * http://www.sff.net/people/pff/sharp.txt
    (Knife FAQs: Plain vs. serrated edges, Knife sharpening,
    Steel types, by Joe Talmadge)

    * http://www.survival-center.com/foodfaq/ff1-toc.htm
    (Food storage FAQ, by Alan T. Hagan)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sci/food-science-faq/part1/
    (Food science FAQ, by Rachel Zemser, J. Ralph Blanchfield, and Paul
    King)

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    10.5 Humour

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/kool-aid-faq/
    (Kool-Aid FAQ, by Paul and Bess Dawson-Schmidt)

    * http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/bofh-food-faq
    (bofh.food FAQ, by J.D. Falk)

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    11 "Unofficial" rec.food.cooking Web site

    Damsel in dis Dress used to maintain what many people regarded as the 'unofficial' rec.food.cooking site, with sections devoted to rfc chat,
    rfc 'signature' dishes, rfc cook-in reports, and rfc birthdays.
    Chatty Cathy is currently in charge of the site, which contains all of
    the above and more, particularly a link to the rfc map set up by
    Christine Dabney. The site is located at
    http://www.recfoodcooking.org

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    12 Sources

    Lots of wonderful people helped compile this list - again, much
    acknowledgement is due to Cindy Kandolf for putting this entire thing
    together and to Amy Gale for maintaining it and adding to it for many
    years.

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    12.1 Contributors

    The other wonderful people are :

    carolynd(at)sail.labs.tek.com
    ekman(at)netc.om.com
    arielle(at)aronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
    rs7x+(at)andrew.cmu.edu
    jane(at)cse.lbl.gov
    jonog(at)g2syd.genasys.com.au anita(at)devvax.mincom.oz.au sbookey(at)ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey) ccd(at)ccdadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au pmmuggli(at)uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu chu(at)acsu.buffalo.edu cdfk(at)otter.hpl.hp.com dudek(at)ksr.com aem(at)symbiosis.ahp.com wald(at)theory.lcs.mit.edu harvey(at)indyvax.iupui.edu ed(at)pa.dec.com ndkj(at)vax5.cit.cornell.edu ekman(at)netc.om.com
    otten(at)icase.edu jane(at)cse.lbl.gov loosemore-sandra(at)cs.yale.edu mworley(at)mathcs.emory.edu kts(at)michael.udev.cdc.com cc(at)dcs.edinburgh.ac.uk leander(at)ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
    cduff(at)sugar.NeoSoft.COM
    lvirden(at)cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
    hammond(at)niwot.scd.ucar.EDU (Steve Hammond)
    dfw(at)thumper.bellcore.com (Doris Woods)
    gibbsm(at)ll.mit.edu (MargAret D Gibbs)
    rickert(at)cco.caltech.edu (Keith Warren Rickert)
    Simon Kershaw Simon.Kershaw(at)Smallworld.co.uk
    Joel Offenberg offenbrg(at)trifle.gsfc.nasa.gov
    grant(at)oj.rsmas.miami.edu (Grant Basham)
    lmak(at)cbnewsf.cb.att.com (louisa.l.mak)
    twain(at)carson.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin) hz225wu(at)unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Micaela Pantke)
    sfisher(at)megatest.com (Scott Fisher)
    byrne(at)rcf.rsmas.miami.edu (Charlie Byrne)
    jmk5u(at)Virginia.EDU
    bae(at)gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Beverly Erlebacher) rlwilliams(at)gallua.gallaudet.edu (Skip) hwalden(at)science-store.chem.wayne.edu (Heather Walden)
    mcenter(at)amoco.com (Mike Center, PSC)
    kevin(at)eye.com (Kevin Stokker)
    steven(at)surya.cs.ucla.edu (Steven Berson)
    eric.decker(at)canrem.com (Eric Decker)
    peteo(at)ford.wpd.sgi.com (Peter Orelup)
    sk10003(at)cus.cam.ac.uk (Scott Kleinman)
    David Casseres casseres(at)apple.com Ted.Taylor(at)p4214.f104.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Taylor)
    george(at)dfds.ml.com (George Minkovsky)
    Alison(at)moose.demon.co.uk (Alison Scott)
    jae(at)world.std.com (Jon A Edelston)
    conrad(at)qpsx.oz.au (Conrad Drake)
    nadel(at)attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel)
    patricia(at)cs.utexas.edu (Patricia M. Burson)
    betsey(at)columbia.edu (Elizabeth Fike)
    leah(at)smith.chi.il.us (Leah Smith)
    steve(at)unipalm.co.uk (Steve Ladlow)
    STEVE SKHNY(at)CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
    "Sudheer Apte" apte(at)loki.hks.com
    Diane Ferrell, Leslie Basel
    rankin(at)scubed.com (Tom Rankin)
    vev(at)msen.com (Vince Vielhaber)
    HUYQ78A(at)prodigy.com (MS PHYLLIS T SPAETH)
    lenf(at)netc.om.com (Len Freedman)
    apforz(at)pfood.win.net (Andy Pforzheimer)
    wnukoski(at)crypt.erie.ge.com (George Wnukoski)
    Dan_Masi(at)Warren.mentorg.com
    robinc(at)oanet.com (Robin Cowdrey)
    merlin(at)ion.com.au (Merlin Zener)
    "Frank Fileccia" surplus(at)telusplanet.net
    "Rodger Whitlock" totototo(at)mail.pacificcoast.net
    Damsel in dis Dress damsel.in.dis.dress(at)gmail.com
    Shankar Bhattacharyya sbhattac(at)idt.net
    Sophie Laplante laplante(at)lri.fr
    Andrew Nicholson andrewn(at)lesto.com
    Ed Keith edkeith(at)home.com
    Read rweaver(at)igc.org
    T. Terrell Banks terry(at)banks-usa.com
    William Chuang wchuang(at)MIT.EDU
    Scott Jordan sjordan(at)ntrnet.net
    Terry Simpson terry(at)connected-systems.com
    Bill Boylan bill.boylan(at)cox.net
    Max Hauser maxREMOVE(at)THIStdl.com
    Vilco a(at)b.invalid
    Lyndon Watson teile(at)clear.net.nz

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    12.2 Bibliography

    This is a new section composed of the acknowledgements previously
    sprinkled through the text. More information on these books will be
    welcomed.

    1) "Trolldom in the Kitchen"
    Pat Bjaaland and Melody Favish

    2) "Larousse Gastronomique"
    ISBN 0 7493 0316 6

    Larousse Gastronomique
    The New American Edition of the World's Greatest Culinary
    Encyclopedia
    By Jenifer Harvey Lang
    Hardcover, 1193 pages
    ISBN: 0517570327
    List Price: $60.00
    Random House
    Publication Date: 10/01/88

    3) "Still Life with Menu" (K)
    Mollie Katzen
    Revised trade paperback 1995
    Still Life with Menu Cookbook
    Trade Paperback, 256 Pages, Revised, Ten Speed, March 1995
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk)
    Author: Katzen, Mollie
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk.)

    Still Life With Menu Cookbook by Katzen, Mollie
    fifty new meatless menus with original art
    Berkeley, California, Ten Speed Press, 1988
    ISBN 0898152569

    4) "Cookery in Colour" (P)
    Marguerite Patten

    5) "The Rotation Diet" (RD)

    6) "My Fun-to-cook-book" (S)
    Ursula Sedgwick

    7) "The New Food Lover's Companion"

    8) "Michel Guérard's Cuisine Minceur"
    Michel Guérard

    9) "Mastering the Art of French Cooking"
    Julia Child

    10) "The Oxford Companion to Food"
    Alan Davidson

    11) "Julia and Jacques Cooking At Home"
    by Julia Child and Jacques Pépin

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    Clean the wok with hot water and some form of scrubbing tool. The
    bamboo things they sometimes include actually work or one can use a
    nylon scrubbing pad (no brillo, SOS, or equivalent). After the wok is
    cleaned, put it back on the burner for a few minutes to heat it up and evaporate any moisture. Then, add a little oil to it and rub it around
    with a paper towel to keep it shiny and from rusting with any moisture
    it may attract in between uses.

    Another thing, when you are done cooking in the wok, put some water in
    it to soak while you eat. Cleanup takes just a few work with a nylon
    scrubbing pad and some hot water.

    Taking good care of your cookware only requires a few minutes of time
    and makes it much easier to use and cleanup. Food doesn't stick to a
    well seasoned wok. If it starts to stick, scrub it well with something
    like an S.O.S. pad and re-season.

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    5.2 Cast Iron (thank you to Tom Rankin)

    Summary:
    Make sure your cast iron is clean down to bare metal.
    Coat with fat, heat, repeat.
    Look after by never washing in soapy water and scrubbing as little as
    possible.

    Details:

    Initial cleaning: get off all the packaging oil, burnt food or
    whatever the pan has on it. Some suggestions for achieving this are
    - Wash in hot soapy water, dry thoroughly
    - Boil undiluted white vinegar in the pan for while
    - Commercial beadblasting (not sandblasting)
    - Steel wool
    - Hot embers
    - Kosher salt baked in the pan at 500°F (260°C) for 4 hours and
    scraped out again
    - Put in self-cleaning oven and turn on clean cycle

    Fats to use: a solid vegetable fat, or lard. Oil is not as suitable.

    Seasoning process: Wipe pot inside and out with melted fat. Do the lid
    too (if it's cast iron). At this point, authorities seem to diverge.
    The common theme is "get it hot and keep it hot for considerably more
    than an hour" (optionally followed by "re-coat it with fat during the process"). Two hours at 350°F (175°C), re-wiping with fat every
    30 minutes, seems sensible.

    When this has been done, the seasoning process has been begun but not
    yet completed. The first few times the pan is used, it should be for
    fairly fatty foods. Fried eggs rather than tomato soup, for example.

    Each time the pan is used, rinse with hot water and scrub if necessary.
    Don't scour or use detergent - otherwise you will need to re-season.
    Some people coat their cast iron very lightly with oil after washing,
    then wipe out after an initial heating next time they use it.

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    6 History and Lore of rec.food.cooking

    ----------------------------------------
    6.1 Origins of rec.food.cooking (thank you to Max Hauser)

    rec.food.cooking began as net.cooks, launched by friend and fellow food
    fanatic Steve Upstill in Berkeley in January 1982 with a posting on
    pragmatic pasta sauces, something Steve was then often cooking,
    including at my place. We were all cranking out a lot of fresh ribbon
    pasta with Atlas 150 (150mm) roller/cutter machines and we needed things
    to do with it. net.cooks became rec.food.cooking in the general Great
    Renaming (late 1986). Current Google archives show Steve's original
    29-Jan-82 posting, and also his 31-Jan-82 net.general announcement of net.cooks, "All about food, cooking, cookbooks, recipes and other
    alimentary effluvia." That was the "charter" of this newsgroup.
    (Discussions by the way using the specific language of newsgroup
    "charter" on net.cooks or rec.food.cooking don't appear until five years
    later in 1987, an exchange between Terry Sterkel, me, and Spafford,
    referring anyway to a different newsgroup.) Posted statistics also
    showed that net.cooks became popular immediately, one of the most
    popular newsgroups at the time. After the 1986 renaming, a Gene
    Spafford active-newsgroups list included rec.food.cooking with summary
    "Food, cooking, cookbooks, and recipes." Steve Upstill continued to
    contribute occasionally, and also to work on recipe-formatting software.
    I recall him commercializing a typesetting macro package ("-MU"), and
    recipe software for Mac platforms.

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    6.2 Some Higlights in the Life of rec.food.cooking

    - There have been quite a few rec.food.cooking cook-ins all over the
    USA, as well as a small one in Germany. The first one was hosted by
    Anne Bourget in Sacramento, California, in 1994.

    - Early in 1997, a rec.food.cooking T-shirt was produced, with the
    proceeds donated to charity. Some 220 T-shirts were sold to rfc'ers.

    - In 2002-3, a rec.food.cooking Cook.Book was published, also with the proceeds donated to charity (City Harvest, a NYC affiliate of Second
    Harvest) to help the victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. There were
    two printings, one late in 2002, the other early in 2003, and a total of
    about 740 copies were sold, also to rfc'ers.


    ----------------------------------------
    6.3 What's all this about xxxx? (much of this section was copied
    verbatim from the rec.food.cooking MiniFAQ that the
    invaluable Amy Gale used to post - thank you, Amy)

    This section tries to cover a few of the most commonly confusing
    topics that may come up on the newsgroup.

    aluminium : has not been linked to Alzheimer's Disease in a
    reproducible experiment.

    Elbonia : a mythical country (probably in Eastern Europe). Comes
    from Scott Adams' "Dilbert", syndicated in newspapers and
    available at http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/

    Ingrid : Anne Bourget's Volvo, used for flattening chicken breasts.
    Now deceased, but the memory lives on.

    j/nghlm : a joke ingredient. Spelling varies.

    WWT : (Weekend With Tammy). Once upon a time, a long-time rfc
    poster named Tammy spent a weekend with another long-time
    poster who posted a long article describing their mainly
    food-related adventures. Some people took exception to
    that posting, complaining about the lack of recipes (which
    were posted separately). Many people now use the WWT
    acronym in the subject header to indicate a posting of
    similar nature.

    ObFood : 'obligatory food reference'. An old rfc tradition.
    Many people hold that, whenever one happens to post off
    topic, one is supposed to add something that has to do
    with food, ideally something that is actually interesting
    and/or useful.

    ----------------------------------------
    7 This has come up once too often....

    This list is a (futile?) attempt to keep certain well-worn subjects from
    coming up yet again. Further suggestions always welcome.

    The $250 cookie recipe

    This recipe comes up often, usually here but also on other newsgroups
    (where it is even less appropriate). The story goes that a woman had a
    cookie at [usually Mrs. Field's or Neiman Marcus' cafe], and liked it
    so much she wanted the recipe. The clerk said "It will cost you
    two-fifty"; the woman thought that meant $2.50 and was shocked to find
    it meant $250. She is now spreading it to get revenge, since it was not returnable.

    There are a number of holes in the story, and no one has ever brought
    forth any evidence that it really happened. (If you want to argue that
    you know someone who knows someone who this really happened to, take it
    over to alt.folklore.urban, where they will proceed to have you for
    breakfast if you have no evidence.) More importantly, it has been
    posted more than enough times by now. Some people have tried the recipe
    and pronounced it good, but it ain't Mrs. Field's. If you would like
    the recipe, ask for someone to mail it to you.

    It has been pointed out to me that the recipe is in the standard source distribution for GNU Emacs and XEmacs. If your site has that source,
    look in the "etc" directory for a file named COOKIES.

    Most importantly, please DO NOT post it any more. There is also a Mrs
    Fields cookbook, published by Time-Life. This has recipes, but not the
    exact ones for the ones sold in the stores, as those recipes are not
    well suited to home baking.

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    8 Recipe archives and other cooking/food sites

    ----------------------------------------
    8.1 Recipe archives

    There are hundreds, if not thousands, of recipe archives on the net.
    Here are some of the more popular and larger ones.

    * http://recipes.alastra.com/
    The official rec.food.recipes archive, maintained by Stephanie da
    Silva.

    * http://www.lysator.liu.se/etexts/recept/us/main.html
    Usenet Cookbook, a collection of old alt.gourmand recipes.

    * http://www.recipesource.com/
    SOAR - Searchable Online Archive of Recipes.

    * http://www.ichef.com/ichef-recipes/

    * http://www.cs.cmu.edu/%7Emjw/recipes/
    Amy Gale's recipe archives.

    * http://recipes.wenzel.net/
    RecipeLand.com's archive with 25000+ recipes.

    * http://www.astray.com/recipes/
    A searchable database of 76,000+ recipes, maintained by Leon
    Brocard.

    * http://www.recipecenter.com
    100,000+ recipes.

    * http://allrecipes.com/
    A large, searchable recipe archive.

    * http://home.uni-one.nl/the-cooking-page/
    The Cooking Page. Numerous recipe links classified by language
    (English, French, German, Dutch), by food course, and by cuisine.

    * http://www.oingo.com/topic/14/14336.html
    A well designed and functional searchable database of thousands of
    food and recipe links.

    * http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/topics/cook.htm
    Ancient and medieval recipes, and cooking and food links.

    * http://www.ajlc.waterloo.on.ca/Recipes/index.html
    A very large, meticulous index of recipes, with a search engine.

    * http://www.cdkitchen.com/
    A comprehensive cooking Web site with over 200,000 recipes,
    including a rec.food.recipes archive. By Valerie Whitmore.

    * http://www.lingualearn.co.uk/food.htm
    A collection of links to recipes, etc. of varius countries.

    * "http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm
    A Boke of Gode Cookery. A collection of Medieval recipes by James
    Matterer.

    * Copycat recipes or links to them are often requested on rfc. Two of
    the better known sites with such recipes are
    http://www.copykat.com
    and
    http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/.

    ----------------------------------------
    8.2 Other cooking/food sites

    * http://www.epicurious.com/
    A general food site with a dictionary (THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION,
    by Sharon Tyler Herbst), recipes from well-known food magazines,
    etc.

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/
    Mimi's Cyber Kitchen, a general food site maintained by Mimi
    Hiller.

    * http://www-ang.kfunigraz.ac.at/~katzer/engl/index.html
    Gernot Katzer's Spice Pages, a Web spice encyclopedia, by Gernot
    Katzer.

    * http://www.foodsubs.com/ (and numerous mirrors)
    The Cook's Thesaurus. By Lori Alden. Suggests substitutions for
    thousands of cooking ingredients.

    * http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Island/3012/glossary.htm
    An A-Z glossary of Indian spices and cooking terms.

    * http://www.EuropeanCuisines.com/
    and
    http://www.owlsprings.com/the_balti_page/
    "European Cuisines" and "The Balti Page".
    By Peter Morwood & Diane Duane.

    * http://www.virtualquincy.com/quincy/recreation/recipes.html
    Directory listing of over 375 recipe and cooking websites.

    * http://www.reluctantgourmet.com/
    Cooking guide for beginner cooks.

    * http://labsoftware.com/cookbook/default.htm
    "Cooking for Graduate Students and and other beginning Kitchen
    Dwellers".

    * http://vsack.homepage.t-online.de/afa_faq.html
    Links to sites related to Asian food and cooking, as posted
    regularly to alt.food.asian by blacksalt.

    * http://www.whatscookingamerica.net/Glossary/GlossaryIndex2.htm
    Linda's Culinary Dictionary. By Linda Stradley. A listing and
    history of cooking, food, and beverage terms.

    * http://www.todine.net/dictionary.html
    Italian-English-French-Spanish-German Gastronomical Dictionary.

    * http://www.xs4all.nl/~margjos/
    English-French-German-Danish-Dutch food dictionary. By Jos and
    Marg Sparreboom.

    * http://www.theepicentre.com/glossary.html
    A glossary of spices, etc.

    * http://www.soupsong.com/ifoodta.html
    "Food tales, or everything you always wanted to know about the
    migration and lore of food."

    * http://www.breadworld.com/canada/tips/glossary/glossary.asp
    A glossary of baking terms maintained by Fleischmann's Yeast, a
    commercial entity.

    * http://www.mhr-viandes.com/en/docu/docu/d9000003.htm
    Multilingual meat and poultry glossaries.

    * http://www.aboutproduce.com/
    Recipes, nutrition info, selection tips for vegetables, fruits, nuts
    and herbs. By the Produce Marketing Association.

    * http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/rfe0.html
    Comprehensive, illustrated fish encylopaedia. An FDA resource.

    * http://navigator.tufts.edu/
    Tufts University Nutrition Navigator. Reviews and rating of
    nutrition information Web sites.

    * http://food.oregonstate.edu/glossary/all.html
    Science of Foods Glossary.

    * http://www.cahe.nmsu.edu/pubs/_e/e-131.pdf
    In A Pinch - Ingredient Substitution, a PDF file.

    * http://www.thousandeggs.com/cookbooks.html
    Links to old culinary & brewing documents online, by Cindy Renfrow.

    * http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/egg/fdnews.html
    A humongous list of culinary newsletters, magazines and journals.

    * http://www.azcentral.com/home/cooking101/
    Cooking 101.

    * http://www.gortons.com/cookbook/
    Gorton's fisherman's cookbook and fish glossary.

    * http://www.pipeline.com/~rosskat/
    A wealth of culinary information, resources, recipes, etc. on a
    rather disorganised site.

    * http://members.aol.com/Jwmike101/home.html
    Culinary resource desk. Lots of useful links.

    * http://www.psgrill.net/Encyclopedia/ENCYCLOPEDIA.html
    Large, useful food dictionary (but with some annoying
    mistranslations and misspellings).

    * http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/glossary/
    BBC's food glossary.

    * http://www.calacademy.org/research/anthropology/utensil/
    The History of Eating Utensils.

    * http://www.astaspice.org/history/history_main.htm
    ASTA's World of Spice - The history of the Spice Trade. By The
    American Spice Trade Association.

    * http://www.usmef.org/TradeLibrary/InternationalMeatManual.asp
    International Meat Manual. Corn-fed beef, grass-fed beef, veal,
    pork and lamb. In English, Japanese, Korean, Mandarin Chinese and
    Spanish. By the U.S. Meat Export Federation.

    * http://www.carnegielibrary.org/subject/food/
    Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh -- comprehensive Food and Cooking
    resource guide

    * http://www.bakingbusiness.com/refbook.asp
    The Encyclopedia of Baking offers reference, formulations and
    troubleshooting for common baking ingredients.

    ----------------------------------------
    9 Food newsgroups and mailing lists

    ----------------------------------------
    9.1 rec.food.cooking

    a.k.a. us: A group for the discussion of cooking in general. Recipes
    and requests for recipes are welcome here, as are discussions of cooking techniques, equipment, etc. In short, if it has to do with cooking, it probably belongs here - though that doesn't mean it doesn't belong
    somewhere else, too!

    ----------------------------------------
    9.2 rec.food.recipes

    A moderated newsgroup for recipes and requests for recipes. Each week a
    FAQ explains how to post recipes or requests. The lead moderator is
    Tracy Carman, <recipes@swcp.com>.
    The rfr moderators' software automatically sets followups to rfc.
    The reason is, no discussion is allowed in rfr - only recipes or
    requests for same. Since some people might wish to publicly discuss
    posted recipes notwithstanding, followups to rfc serve a useful purpose.

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    9.3 rec.food.drink, rec.food.drink.beer, rec.food.drink.tea,
    rec.food.restaurants, rec.food.drink.coffee
    rec.food.sourdough, rec.food.historic

    Pretty self-explanatory.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.4 rec.food.veg

    About vegetarianism. It also has its own FAQ list, with questions about
    the myths and truths of the vegetarian diet, information on where to get "cruelty-free" products, etc.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.5 rec.food.veg.cooking

    A moderated version of rec.food.veg

    ----------------------------------------
    9.6 rec.food.preserving

    "Rec.food.preserving is a newsgroup devoted to the discussion of
    recipes, equipment, and techniques of food preservation. Current food preservation techniques that rightly should be discussed in this forum
    include canning, freezing, dehydration, pickling, smoking, salting,
    distilling, and potting. Foodstuffs are defined as produce (both fruits
    and vegetables), meat, fish, dairy products, culinary and medicinal
    herbs. Discussions should be limited to home-grown or home-preserved
    foods." (From the rec.food.preserving FAQ)

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    9.7 also...

    rec.crafts.winemaking
    rec.crafts.brewing
    alt.food
    alt.food.wine
    alt.coffee
    alt.food.asian
    alt.food.fat-free
    alt.food.low-fat
    alt.bacchus
    alt.food.mcdonalds (an oxymoron if ever I heard one)
    alt.food.coca-cola (mmmm....coca cola...)
    alt.food.chocolate
    alt.food.taco.bell
    alt.creative-cook
    alt.creative-cooking
    alt.cooking-chat
    alt.food.barbecue
    alt.2eggs.sausage.beans.tomatoes.2toast.largetea.cheerslove alt.food.mexican-cooking
    alt.food.sushi

    ----------------------------------------
    9.8 mailing lists

    A very popular mailing list is

    Chile-Heads

    Purpose: The Chile-Heads list is intended to provide a forum
    for discussion of matters relating to chile peppers; including,
    but not limited to:

    o Growing peppers
    o Seed and plant sources
    o Exchanges of seeds/plants/pods/etc.
    o Exotic varieties
    o Storing and preserving chiles
    o Recipes using chiles
    o Other related posts

    http://globalgarden.com/Chile-Heads/list_info.phtml

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List
    All messages posted to the list are emailed immediately to
    everyone on the list.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List
    The digest will save all email messages posted to the list for
    the day and send in one email message.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from
    ftp.globalgarden.com, in pub/Chile-Heads/digest/vNN.nMMM
    (where "NN" is the volume number, and "MMM" is the issue number).

    How to Unsubscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List or Digest
    Mailing List
    To unsubscribe send email to Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    or Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    (depending on which version of the list you are subscribed to)
    with the body of the message containing:
    UNSUBSCRIBE


    Another popular mailing list is

    Bread-Bakers

    The bread-bakers digest and daily-bread mailing lists are for the
    free exchange of recipes and information related to any and all
    aspects of bread baking, by hand or by machine.
    http://www.bread-bakers.com/

    To join the bread-bakers mailing list, send mail to
    bread-bakers-request@lists.bread-bakers.com In the body of the
    message, place, in lower case with no indentation, the single word:

    subscribe

    This will subscribe you at the address that your message is sent
    from. This is almost certainly your correct address. Bestserv will
    send you a message asking you to confirm your subscription request.
    You must reply to the message changing the word REJECT in the
    subject to ACCEPT. You will get a confirmation when your
    subscription has been accepted. If you have problems subscribing,
    please write to us at bread-bakers-owner@lists.bread-bakers.com
    and we will assist you.

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    10 Other culinary FAQs (thank you to Damsel in dis Dress)

    ----------------------------------------
    10.1 Foods

    * ftp://ftp.michvhf.com/pub/rec.food.baking/FAQ
    (rec.food.baking FAQ, by B. Keith Ryder)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/sourdough/faq/preamble.html
    (rec.food.sourdough FAQ, maintained by Darrell Greenwood)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/index2.html#faq
    (Meat FAQs: Foie gras, Pig processing, Venison processing, Elk and
    caribou, Wagyu and Kobe beef; by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.macscouter.com/Cooking/DutchOven.html
    (Dutch oven cooking)

    * http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/index.html
    (BBQ FAQ, by William W. Wight)

    * http://www.bbqguide.com/meat_smoking_and_curing_faq.htm
    (Meat smoking and curing FAQ, maintained by Richard Thead)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/preserving/part1/
    (rec.food.preserving FAQ, maintained by Eric Decker)

    * http://edible-complex.home.att.net/faq-spices.html
    (Spices FAQ, by Daniel M. Germán)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/culinary-herbs/part1/
    (Culinary herbs FAQ, maintained by Henriette Kress)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/truffles.html
    (Truffles (fungi) FAQ, by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/chocolate/faq/
    (Chocolate FAQ, by Monee Kidd)

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    10.2 Beverages

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/caffeine-faq/
    (Coffee and caffeine FAQ, by Alex Lopez-Ortiz)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/tea/faq/
    (Tea FAQ, by Christopher Roberson)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/wine-faq/part1/
    (Wine FAQ, by Bradford S. Brown)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/crafts/winemaking-faq/
    (Winemaking FAQ, by Don Buchan)

    * http://www.beerinfo.com/rfdb/faq.html
    (Beer FAQ, by John A. Lock)

    * http://hbd.org/brewery/library/absfaq.html
    (Absinthe FAQ, by Matthew Baggott)

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    10.3 Religion, lifestyle and special diets

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/rfcj/kosherfaq.htm
    (Kosher food, by Pat Gold, Beth Greenfeld, and Ruth Heiges)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/vegetarian/faq/
    (rec.food.veg (vegetarian) FAQ, by Michael Traub)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/fatfree/faq/
    (Fat-free FAQ, by Michelle Dick)

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    10.4 Miscellaneous

    * http://FAQs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/cooking/common-topics
    (Commonly discussed topics, by Stephanie da Silva)

    * http://www.thepurplehouse.net/wedding/cookware.txt
    (Cookware FAQ, by Oliver Sharp)

    * http://www.sff.net/people/pff/sharp.txt
    (Knife FAQs: Plain vs. serrated edges, Knife sharpening,
    Steel types, by Joe Talmadge)

    * http://www.survival-center.com/foodfaq/ff1-toc.htm
    (Food storage FAQ, by Alan T. Hagan)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sci/food-science-faq/part1/
    (Food science FAQ, by Rachel Zemser, J. Ralph Blanchfield, and Paul
    King)

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    10.5 Humour

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/kool-aid-faq/
    (Kool-Aid FAQ, by Paul and Bess Dawson-Schmidt)

    * http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/bofh-food-faq
    (bofh.food FAQ, by J.D. Falk)

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    11 "Unofficial" rec.food.cooking Web site

    Damsel in dis Dress used to maintain what many people regarded as the 'unofficial' rec.food.cooking site, with sections devoted to rfc chat,
    rfc 'signature' dishes, rfc cook-in reports, and rfc birthdays.
    Chatty Cathy is currently in charge of the site, which contains all of
    the above and more, particularly a link to the rfc map set up by
    Christine Dabney. The site is located at
    http://www.recfoodcooking.org

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    12 Sources

    Lots of wonderful people helped compile this list - again, much
    acknowledgement is due to Cindy Kandolf for putting this entire thing
    together and to Amy Gale for maintaining it and adding to it for many
    years.

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    12.1 Contributors

    The other wonderful people are :

    carolynd(at)sail.labs.tek.com
    ekman(at)netc.om.com
    arielle(at)aronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
    rs7x+(at)andrew.cmu.edu
    jane(at)cse.lbl.gov
    jonog(at)g2syd.genasys.com.au anita(at)devvax.mincom.oz.au sbookey(at)ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey) ccd(at)ccdadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au pmmuggli(at)uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu chu(at)acsu.buffalo.edu cdfk(at)otter.hpl.hp.com dudek(at)ksr.com aem(at)symbiosis.ahp.com wald(at)theory.lcs.mit.edu harvey(at)indyvax.iupui.edu ed(at)pa.dec.com ndkj(at)vax5.cit.cornell.edu ekman(at)netc.om.com
    otten(at)icase.edu jane(at)cse.lbl.gov loosemore-sandra(at)cs.yale.edu mworley(at)mathcs.emory.edu kts(at)michael.udev.cdc.com cc(at)dcs.edinburgh.ac.uk leander(at)ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
    cduff(at)sugar.NeoSoft.COM
    lvirden(at)cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
    hammond(at)niwot.scd.ucar.EDU (Steve Hammond)
    dfw(at)thumper.bellcore.com (Doris Woods)
    gibbsm(at)ll.mit.edu (MargAret D Gibbs)
    rickert(at)cco.caltech.edu (Keith Warren Rickert)
    Simon Kershaw Simon.Kershaw(at)Smallworld.co.uk
    Joel Offenberg offenbrg(at)trifle.gsfc.nasa.gov
    grant(at)oj.rsmas.miami.edu (Grant Basham)
    lmak(at)cbnewsf.cb.att.com (louisa.l.mak)
    twain(at)carson.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin) hz225wu(at)unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Micaela Pantke)
    sfisher(at)megatest.com (Scott Fisher)
    byrne(at)rcf.rsmas.miami.edu (Charlie Byrne)
    jmk5u(at)Virginia.EDU
    bae(at)gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Beverly Erlebacher) rlwilliams(at)gallua.gallaudet.edu (Skip) hwalden(at)science-store.chem.wayne.edu (Heather Walden)
    mcenter(at)amoco.com (Mike Center, PSC)
    kevin(at)eye.com (Kevin Stokker)
    steven(at)surya.cs.ucla.edu (Steven Berson)
    eric.decker(at)canrem.com (Eric Decker)
    peteo(at)ford.wpd.sgi.com (Peter Orelup)
    sk10003(at)cus.cam.ac.uk (Scott Kleinman)
    David Casseres casseres(at)apple.com Ted.Taylor(at)p4214.f104.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Taylor)
    george(at)dfds.ml.com (George Minkovsky)
    Alison(at)moose.demon.co.uk (Alison Scott)
    jae(at)world.std.com (Jon A Edelston)
    conrad(at)qpsx.oz.au (Conrad Drake)
    nadel(at)attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel)
    patricia(at)cs.utexas.edu (Patricia M. Burson)
    betsey(at)columbia.edu (Elizabeth Fike)
    leah(at)smith.chi.il.us (Leah Smith)
    steve(at)unipalm.co.uk (Steve Ladlow)
    STEVE SKHNY(at)CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
    "Sudheer Apte" apte(at)loki.hks.com
    Diane Ferrell, Leslie Basel
    rankin(at)scubed.com (Tom Rankin)
    vev(at)msen.com (Vince Vielhaber)
    HUYQ78A(at)prodigy.com (MS PHYLLIS T SPAETH)
    lenf(at)netc.om.com (Len Freedman)
    apforz(at)pfood.win.net (Andy Pforzheimer)
    wnukoski(at)crypt.erie.ge.com (George Wnukoski)
    Dan_Masi(at)Warren.mentorg.com
    robinc(at)oanet.com (Robin Cowdrey)
    merlin(at)ion.com.au (Merlin Zener)
    "Frank Fileccia" surplus(at)telusplanet.net
    "Rodger Whitlock" totototo(at)mail.pacificcoast.net
    Damsel in dis Dress damsel.in.dis.dress(at)gmail.com
    Shankar Bhattacharyya sbhattac(at)idt.net
    Sophie Laplante laplante(at)lri.fr
    Andrew Nicholson andrewn(at)lesto.com
    Ed Keith edkeith(at)home.com
    Read rweaver(at)igc.org
    T. Terrell Banks terry(at)banks-usa.com
    William Chuang wchuang(at)MIT.EDU
    Scott Jordan sjordan(at)ntrnet.net
    Terry Simpson terry(at)connected-systems.com
    Bill Boylan bill.boylan(at)cox.net
    Max Hauser maxREMOVE(at)THIStdl.com
    Vilco a(at)b.invalid
    Lyndon Watson teile(at)clear.net.nz

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    12.2 Bibliography

    This is a new section composed of the acknowledgements previously
    sprinkled through the text. More information on these books will be
    welcomed.

    1) "Trolldom in the Kitchen"
    Pat Bjaaland and Melody Favish

    2) "Larousse Gastronomique"
    ISBN 0 7493 0316 6

    Larousse Gastronomique
    The New American Edition of the World's Greatest Culinary
    Encyclopedia
    By Jenifer Harvey Lang
    Hardcover, 1193 pages
    ISBN: 0517570327
    List Price: $60.00
    Random House
    Publication Date: 10/01/88

    3) "Still Life with Menu" (K)
    Mollie Katzen
    Revised trade paperback 1995
    Still Life with Menu Cookbook
    Trade Paperback, 256 Pages, Revised, Ten Speed, March 1995
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk)
    Author: Katzen, Mollie
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk.)

    Still Life With Menu Cookbook by Katzen, Mollie
    fifty new meatless menus with original art
    Berkeley, California, Ten Speed Press, 1988
    ISBN 0898152569

    4) "Cookery in Colour" (P)
    Marguerite Patten

    5) "The Rotation Diet" (RD)

    6) "My Fun-to-cook-book" (S)
    Ursula Sedgwick

    7) "The New Food Lover's Companion"

    8) "Michel Guérard's Cuisine Minceur"
    Michel Guérard

    9) "Mastering the Art of French Cooking"
    Julia Child

    10) "The Oxford Companion to Food"
    Alan Davidson

    11) "Julia and Jacques Cooking At Home"
    by Julia Child and Jacques Pépin

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    Clean the wok with hot water and some form of scrubbing tool. The
    bamboo things they sometimes include actually work or one can use a
    nylon scrubbing pad (no brillo, SOS, or equivalent). After the wok is
    cleaned, put it back on the burner for a few minutes to heat it up and evaporate any moisture. Then, add a little oil to it and rub it around
    with a paper towel to keep it shiny and from rusting with any moisture
    it may attract in between uses.

    Another thing, when you are done cooking in the wok, put some water in
    it to soak while you eat. Cleanup takes just a few work with a nylon
    scrubbing pad and some hot water.

    Taking good care of your cookware only requires a few minutes of time
    and makes it much easier to use and cleanup. Food doesn't stick to a
    well seasoned wok. If it starts to stick, scrub it well with something
    like an S.O.S. pad and re-season.

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    5.2 Cast Iron (thank you to Tom Rankin)

    Summary:
    Make sure your cast iron is clean down to bare metal.
    Coat with fat, heat, repeat.
    Look after by never washing in soapy water and scrubbing as little as
    possible.

    Details:

    Initial cleaning: get off all the packaging oil, burnt food or
    whatever the pan has on it. Some suggestions for achieving this are
    - Wash in hot soapy water, dry thoroughly
    - Boil undiluted white vinegar in the pan for while
    - Commercial beadblasting (not sandblasting)
    - Steel wool
    - Hot embers
    - Kosher salt baked in the pan at 500°F (260°C) for 4 hours and
    scraped out again
    - Put in self-cleaning oven and turn on clean cycle

    Fats to use: a solid vegetable fat, or lard. Oil is not as suitable.

    Seasoning process: Wipe pot inside and out with melted fat. Do the lid
    too (if it's cast iron). At this point, authorities seem to diverge.
    The common theme is "get it hot and keep it hot for considerably more
    than an hour" (optionally followed by "re-coat it with fat during the process"). Two hours at 350°F (175°C), re-wiping with fat every
    30 minutes, seems sensible.

    When this has been done, the seasoning process has been begun but not
    yet completed. The first few times the pan is used, it should be for
    fairly fatty foods. Fried eggs rather than tomato soup, for example.

    Each time the pan is used, rinse with hot water and scrub if necessary.
    Don't scour or use detergent - otherwise you will need to re-season.
    Some people coat their cast iron very lightly with oil after washing,
    then wipe out after an initial heating next time they use it.

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    6 History and Lore of rec.food.cooking

    ----------------------------------------
    6.1 Origins of rec.food.cooking (thank you to Max Hauser)

    rec.food.cooking began as net.cooks, launched by friend and fellow food
    fanatic Steve Upstill in Berkeley in January 1982 with a posting on
    pragmatic pasta sauces, something Steve was then often cooking,
    including at my place. We were all cranking out a lot of fresh ribbon
    pasta with Atlas 150 (150mm) roller/cutter machines and we needed things
    to do with it. net.cooks became rec.food.cooking in the general Great
    Renaming (late 1986). Current Google archives show Steve's original
    29-Jan-82 posting, and also his 31-Jan-82 net.general announcement of net.cooks, "All about food, cooking, cookbooks, recipes and other
    alimentary effluvia." That was the "charter" of this newsgroup.
    (Discussions by the way using the specific language of newsgroup
    "charter" on net.cooks or rec.food.cooking don't appear until five years
    later in 1987, an exchange between Terry Sterkel, me, and Spafford,
    referring anyway to a different newsgroup.) Posted statistics also
    showed that net.cooks became popular immediately, one of the most
    popular newsgroups at the time. After the 1986 renaming, a Gene
    Spafford active-newsgroups list included rec.food.cooking with summary
    "Food, cooking, cookbooks, and recipes." Steve Upstill continued to
    contribute occasionally, and also to work on recipe-formatting software.
    I recall him commercializing a typesetting macro package ("-MU"), and
    recipe software for Mac platforms.

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    6.2 Some Higlights in the Life of rec.food.cooking

    - There have been quite a few rec.food.cooking cook-ins all over the
    USA, as well as a small one in Germany. The first one was hosted by
    Anne Bourget in Sacramento, California, in 1994.

    - Early in 1997, a rec.food.cooking T-shirt was produced, with the
    proceeds donated to charity. Some 220 T-shirts were sold to rfc'ers.

    - In 2002-3, a rec.food.cooking Cook.Book was published, also with the proceeds donated to charity (City Harvest, a NYC affiliate of Second
    Harvest) to help the victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. There were
    two printings, one late in 2002, the other early in 2003, and a total of
    about 740 copies were sold, also to rfc'ers.


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    6.3 What's all this about xxxx? (much of this section was copied
    verbatim from the rec.food.cooking MiniFAQ that the
    invaluable Amy Gale used to post - thank you, Amy)

    This section tries to cover a few of the most commonly confusing
    topics that may come up on the newsgroup.

    aluminium : has not been linked to Alzheimer's Disease in a
    reproducible experiment.

    Elbonia : a mythical country (probably in Eastern Europe). Comes
    from Scott Adams' "Dilbert", syndicated in newspapers and
    available at http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/

    Ingrid : Anne Bourget's Volvo, used for flattening chicken breasts.
    Now deceased, but the memory lives on.

    j/nghlm : a joke ingredient. Spelling varies.

    WWT : (Weekend With Tammy). Once upon a time, a long-time rfc
    poster named Tammy spent a weekend with another long-time
    poster who posted a long article describing their mainly
    food-related adventures. Some people took exception to
    that posting, complaining about the lack of recipes (which
    were posted separately). Many people now use the WWT
    acronym in the subject header to indicate a posting of
    similar nature.

    ObFood : 'obligatory food reference'. An old rfc tradition.
    Many people hold that, whenever one happens to post off
    topic, one is supposed to add something that has to do
    with food, ideally something that is actually interesting
    and/or useful.

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    7 This has come up once too often....

    This list is a (futile?) attempt to keep certain well-worn subjects from
    coming up yet again. Further suggestions always welcome.

    The $250 cookie recipe

    This recipe comes up often, usually here but also on other newsgroups
    (where it is even less appropriate). The story goes that a woman had a
    cookie at [usually Mrs. Field's or Neiman Marcus' cafe], and liked it
    so much she wanted the recipe. The clerk said "It will cost you
    two-fifty"; the woman thought that meant $2.50 and was shocked to find
    it meant $250. She is now spreading it to get revenge, since it was not returnable.

    There are a number of holes in the story, and no one has ever brought
    forth any evidence that it really happened. (If you want to argue that
    you know someone who knows someone who this really happened to, take it
    over to alt.folklore.urban, where they will proceed to have you for
    breakfast if you have no evidence.) More importantly, it has been
    posted more than enough times by now. Some people have tried the recipe
    and pronounced it good, but it ain't Mrs. Field's. If you would like
    the recipe, ask for someone to mail it to you.

    It has been pointed out to me that the recipe is in the standard source distribution for GNU Emacs and XEmacs. If your site has that source,
    look in the "etc" directory for a file named COOKIES.

    Most importantly, please DO NOT post it any more. There is also a Mrs
    Fields cookbook, published by Time-Life. This has recipes, but not the
    exact ones for the ones sold in the stores, as those recipes are not
    well suited to home baking.

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    8 Recipe archives and other cooking/food sites

    ----------------------------------------
    8.1 Recipe archives

    There are hundreds, if not thousands, of recipe archives on the net.
    Here are some of the more popular and larger ones.

    * http://recipes.alastra.com/
    The official rec.food.recipes archive, maintained by Stephanie da
    Silva.

    * http://www.lysator.liu.se/etexts/recept/us/main.html
    Usenet Cookbook, a collection of old alt.gourmand recipes.

    * http://www.recipesource.com/
    SOAR - Searchable Online Archive of Recipes.

    * http://www.ichef.com/ichef-recipes/

    * http://www.cs.cmu.edu/%7Emjw/recipes/
    Amy Gale's recipe archives.

    * http://recipes.wenzel.net/
    RecipeLand.com's archive with 25000+ recipes.

    * http://www.astray.com/recipes/
    A searchable database of 76,000+ recipes, maintained by Leon
    Brocard.

    * http://www.recipecenter.com
    100,000+ recipes.

    * http://allrecipes.com/
    A large, searchable recipe archive.

    * http://home.uni-one.nl/the-cooking-page/
    The Cooking Page. Numerous recipe links classified by language
    (English, French, German, Dutch), by food course, and by cuisine.

    * http://www.oingo.com/topic/14/14336.html
    A well designed and functional searchable database of thousands of
    food and recipe links.

    * http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/topics/cook.htm
    Ancient and medieval recipes, and cooking and food links.

    * http://www.ajlc.waterloo.on.ca/Recipes/index.html
    A very large, meticulous index of recipes, with a search engine.

    * http://www.cdkitchen.com/
    A comprehensive cooking Web site with over 200,000 recipes,
    including a rec.food.recipes archive. By Valerie Whitmore.

    * http://www.lingualearn.co.uk/food.htm
    A collection of links to recipes, etc. of varius countries.

    * "http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm
    A Boke of Gode Cookery. A collection of Medieval recipes by James
    Matterer.

    * Copycat recipes or links to them are often requested on rfc. Two of
    the better known sites with such recipes are
    http://www.copykat.com
    and
    http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/.

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    8.2 Other cooking/food sites

    * http://www.epicurious.com/
    A general food site with a dictionary (THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION,
    by Sharon Tyler Herbst), recipes from well-known food magazines,
    etc.

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/
    Mimi's Cyber Kitchen, a general food site maintained by Mimi
    Hiller.

    * http://www-ang.kfunigraz.ac.at/~katzer/engl/index.html
    Gernot Katzer's Spice Pages, a Web spice encyclopedia, by Gernot
    Katzer.

    * http://www.foodsubs.com/ (and numerous mirrors)
    The Cook's Thesaurus. By Lori Alden. Suggests substitutions for
    thousands of cooking ingredients.

    * http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Island/3012/glossary.htm
    An A-Z glossary of Indian spices and cooking terms.

    * http://www.EuropeanCuisines.com/
    and
    http://www.owlsprings.com/the_balti_page/
    "European Cuisines" and "The Balti Page".
    By Peter Morwood & Diane Duane.

    * http://www.virtualquincy.com/quincy/recreation/recipes.html
    Directory listing of over 375 recipe and cooking websites.

    * http://www.reluctantgourmet.com/
    Cooking guide for beginner cooks.

    * http://labsoftware.com/cookbook/default.htm
    "Cooking for Graduate Students and and other beginning Kitchen
    Dwellers".

    * http://vsack.homepage.t-online.de/afa_faq.html
    Links to sites related to Asian food and cooking, as posted
    regularly to alt.food.asian by blacksalt.

    * http://www.whatscookingamerica.net/Glossary/GlossaryIndex2.htm
    Linda's Culinary Dictionary. By Linda Stradley. A listing and
    history of cooking, food, and beverage terms.

    * http://www.todine.net/dictionary.html
    Italian-English-French-Spanish-German Gastronomical Dictionary.

    * http://www.xs4all.nl/~margjos/
    English-French-German-Danish-Dutch food dictionary. By Jos and
    Marg Sparreboom.

    * http://www.theepicentre.com/glossary.html
    A glossary of spices, etc.

    * http://www.soupsong.com/ifoodta.html
    "Food tales, or everything you always wanted to know about the
    migration and lore of food."

    * http://www.breadworld.com/canada/tips/glossary/glossary.asp
    A glossary of baking terms maintained by Fleischmann's Yeast, a
    commercial entity.

    * http://www.mhr-viandes.com/en/docu/docu/d9000003.htm
    Multilingual meat and poultry glossaries.

    * http://www.aboutproduce.com/
    Recipes, nutrition info, selection tips for vegetables, fruits, nuts
    and herbs. By the Produce Marketing Association.

    * http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/rfe0.html
    Comprehensive, illustrated fish encylopaedia. An FDA resource.

    * http://navigator.tufts.edu/
    Tufts University Nutrition Navigator. Reviews and rating of
    nutrition information Web sites.

    * http://food.oregonstate.edu/glossary/all.html
    Science of Foods Glossary.

    * http://www.cahe.nmsu.edu/pubs/_e/e-131.pdf
    In A Pinch - Ingredient Substitution, a PDF file.

    * http://www.thousandeggs.com/cookbooks.html
    Links to old culinary & brewing documents online, by Cindy Renfrow.

    * http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/egg/fdnews.html
    A humongous list of culinary newsletters, magazines and journals.

    * http://www.azcentral.com/home/cooking101/
    Cooking 101.

    * http://www.gortons.com/cookbook/
    Gorton's fisherman's cookbook and fish glossary.

    * http://www.pipeline.com/~rosskat/
    A wealth of culinary information, resources, recipes, etc. on a
    rather disorganised site.

    * http://members.aol.com/Jwmike101/home.html
    Culinary resource desk. Lots of useful links.

    * http://www.psgrill.net/Encyclopedia/ENCYCLOPEDIA.html
    Large, useful food dictionary (but with some annoying
    mistranslations and misspellings).

    * http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/glossary/
    BBC's food glossary.

    * http://www.calacademy.org/research/anthropology/utensil/
    The History of Eating Utensils.

    * http://www.astaspice.org/history/history_main.htm
    ASTA's World of Spice - The history of the Spice Trade. By The
    American Spice Trade Association.

    * http://www.usmef.org/TradeLibrary/InternationalMeatManual.asp
    International Meat Manual. Corn-fed beef, grass-fed beef, veal,
    pork and lamb. In English, Japanese, Korean, Mandarin Chinese and
    Spanish. By the U.S. Meat Export Federation.

    * http://www.carnegielibrary.org/subject/food/
    Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh -- comprehensive Food and Cooking
    resource guide

    * http://www.bakingbusiness.com/refbook.asp
    The Encyclopedia of Baking offers reference, formulations and
    troubleshooting for common baking ingredients.

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    9 Food newsgroups and mailing lists

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    9.1 rec.food.cooking

    a.k.a. us: A group for the discussion of cooking in general. Recipes
    and requests for recipes are welcome here, as are discussions of cooking techniques, equipment, etc. In short, if it has to do with cooking, it probably belongs here - though that doesn't mean it doesn't belong
    somewhere else, too!

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    9.2 rec.food.recipes

    A moderated newsgroup for recipes and requests for recipes. Each week a
    FAQ explains how to post recipes or requests. The lead moderator is
    Tracy Carman, <recipes@swcp.com>.
    The rfr moderators' software automatically sets followups to rfc.
    The reason is, no discussion is allowed in rfr - only recipes or
    requests for same. Since some people might wish to publicly discuss
    posted recipes notwithstanding, followups to rfc serve a useful purpose.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.3 rec.food.drink, rec.food.drink.beer, rec.food.drink.tea,
    rec.food.restaurants, rec.food.drink.coffee
    rec.food.sourdough, rec.food.historic

    Pretty self-explanatory.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.4 rec.food.veg

    About vegetarianism. It also has its own FAQ list, with questions about
    the myths and truths of the vegetarian diet, information on where to get "cruelty-free" products, etc.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.5 rec.food.veg.cooking

    A moderated version of rec.food.veg

    ----------------------------------------
    9.6 rec.food.preserving

    "Rec.food.preserving is a newsgroup devoted to the discussion of
    recipes, equipment, and techniques of food preservation. Current food preservation techniques that rightly should be discussed in this forum
    include canning, freezing, dehydration, pickling, smoking, salting,
    distilling, and potting. Foodstuffs are defined as produce (both fruits
    and vegetables), meat, fish, dairy products, culinary and medicinal
    herbs. Discussions should be limited to home-grown or home-preserved
    foods." (From the rec.food.preserving FAQ)

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    9.7 also...

    rec.crafts.winemaking
    rec.crafts.brewing
    alt.food
    alt.food.wine
    alt.coffee
    alt.food.asian
    alt.food.fat-free
    alt.food.low-fat
    alt.bacchus
    alt.food.mcdonalds (an oxymoron if ever I heard one)
    alt.food.coca-cola (mmmm....coca cola...)
    alt.food.chocolate
    alt.food.taco.bell
    alt.creative-cook
    alt.creative-cooking
    alt.cooking-chat
    alt.food.barbecue
    alt.2eggs.sausage.beans.tomatoes.2toast.largetea.cheerslove alt.food.mexican-cooking
    alt.food.sushi

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    9.8 mailing lists

    A very popular mailing list is

    Chile-Heads

    Purpose: The Chile-Heads list is intended to provide a forum
    for discussion of matters relating to chile peppers; including,
    but not limited to:

    o Growing peppers
    o Seed and plant sources
    o Exchanges of seeds/plants/pods/etc.
    o Exotic varieties
    o Storing and preserving chiles
    o Recipes using chiles
    o Other related posts

    http://globalgarden.com/Chile-Heads/list_info.phtml

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List
    All messages posted to the list are emailed immediately to
    everyone on the list.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List
    The digest will save all email messages posted to the list for
    the day and send in one email message.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from
    ftp.globalgarden.com, in pub/Chile-Heads/digest/vNN.nMMM
    (where "NN" is the volume number, and "MMM" is the issue number).

    How to Unsubscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List or Digest
    Mailing List
    To unsubscribe send email to Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    or Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    (depending on which version of the list you are subscribed to)
    with the body of the message containing:
    UNSUBSCRIBE


    Another popular mailing list is

    Bread-Bakers

    The bread-bakers digest and daily-bread mailing lists are for the
    free exchange of recipes and information related to any and all
    aspects of bread baking, by hand or by machine.
    http://www.bread-bakers.com/

    To join the bread-bakers mailing list, send mail to
    bread-bakers-request@lists.bread-bakers.com In the body of the
    message, place, in lower case with no indentation, the single word:

    subscribe

    This will subscribe you at the address that your message is sent
    from. This is almost certainly your correct address. Bestserv will
    send you a message asking you to confirm your subscription request.
    You must reply to the message changing the word REJECT in the
    subject to ACCEPT. You will get a confirmation when your
    subscription has been accepted. If you have problems subscribing,
    please write to us at bread-bakers-owner@lists.bread-bakers.com
    and we will assist you.

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    10 Other culinary FAQs (thank you to Damsel in dis Dress)

    ----------------------------------------
    10.1 Foods

    * ftp://ftp.michvhf.com/pub/rec.food.baking/FAQ
    (rec.food.baking FAQ, by B. Keith Ryder)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/sourdough/faq/preamble.html
    (rec.food.sourdough FAQ, maintained by Darrell Greenwood)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/index2.html#faq
    (Meat FAQs: Foie gras, Pig processing, Venison processing, Elk and
    caribou, Wagyu and Kobe beef; by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.macscouter.com/Cooking/DutchOven.html
    (Dutch oven cooking)

    * http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/index.html
    (BBQ FAQ, by William W. Wight)

    * http://www.bbqguide.com/meat_smoking_and_curing_faq.htm
    (Meat smoking and curing FAQ, maintained by Richard Thead)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/preserving/part1/
    (rec.food.preserving FAQ, maintained by Eric Decker)

    * http://edible-complex.home.att.net/faq-spices.html
    (Spices FAQ, by Daniel M. Germán)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/culinary-herbs/part1/
    (Culinary herbs FAQ, maintained by Henriette Kress)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/truffles.html
    (Truffles (fungi) FAQ, by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/chocolate/faq/
    (Chocolate FAQ, by Monee Kidd)

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    10.2 Beverages

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/caffeine-faq/
    (Coffee and caffeine FAQ, by Alex Lopez-Ortiz)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/tea/faq/
    (Tea FAQ, by Christopher Roberson)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/wine-faq/part1/
    (Wine FAQ, by Bradford S. Brown)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/crafts/winemaking-faq/
    (Winemaking FAQ, by Don Buchan)

    * http://www.beerinfo.com/rfdb/faq.html
    (Beer FAQ, by John A. Lock)

    * http://hbd.org/brewery/library/absfaq.html
    (Absinthe FAQ, by Matthew Baggott)

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    10.3 Religion, lifestyle and special diets

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/rfcj/kosherfaq.htm
    (Kosher food, by Pat Gold, Beth Greenfeld, and Ruth Heiges)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/vegetarian/faq/
    (rec.food.veg (vegetarian) FAQ, by Michael Traub)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/fatfree/faq/
    (Fat-free FAQ, by Michelle Dick)

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    10.4 Miscellaneous

    * http://FAQs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/cooking/common-topics
    (Commonly discussed topics, by Stephanie da Silva)

    * http://www.thepurplehouse.net/wedding/cookware.txt
    (Cookware FAQ, by Oliver Sharp)

    * http://www.sff.net/people/pff/sharp.txt
    (Knife FAQs: Plain vs. serrated edges, Knife sharpening,
    Steel types, by Joe Talmadge)

    * http://www.survival-center.com/foodfaq/ff1-toc.htm
    (Food storage FAQ, by Alan T. Hagan)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sci/food-science-faq/part1/
    (Food science FAQ, by Rachel Zemser, J. Ralph Blanchfield, and Paul
    King)

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    10.5 Humour

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/kool-aid-faq/
    (Kool-Aid FAQ, by Paul and Bess Dawson-Schmidt)

    * http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/bofh-food-faq
    (bofh.food FAQ, by J.D. Falk)

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    11 "Unofficial" rec.food.cooking Web site

    Damsel in dis Dress used to maintain what many people regarded as the 'unofficial' rec.food.cooking site, with sections devoted to rfc chat,
    rfc 'signature' dishes, rfc cook-in reports, and rfc birthdays.
    Chatty Cathy is currently in charge of the site, which contains all of
    the above and more, particularly a link to the rfc map set up by
    Christine Dabney. The site is located at
    http://www.recfoodcooking.org

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    12 Sources

    Lots of wonderful people helped compile this list - again, much
    acknowledgement is due to Cindy Kandolf for putting this entire thing
    together and to Amy Gale for maintaining it and adding to it for many
    years.

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    12.1 Contributors

    The other wonderful people are :

    carolynd(at)sail.labs.tek.com
    ekman(at)netc.om.com
    arielle(at)aronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
    rs7x+(at)andrew.cmu.edu
    jane(at)cse.lbl.gov
    jonog(at)g2syd.genasys.com.au anita(at)devvax.mincom.oz.au sbookey(at)ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey) ccd(at)ccdadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au pmmuggli(at)uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu chu(at)acsu.buffalo.edu cdfk(at)otter.hpl.hp.com dudek(at)ksr.com aem(at)symbiosis.ahp.com wald(at)theory.lcs.mit.edu harvey(at)indyvax.iupui.edu ed(at)pa.dec.com ndkj(at)vax5.cit.cornell.edu ekman(at)netc.om.com
    otten(at)icase.edu jane(at)cse.lbl.gov loosemore-sandra(at)cs.yale.edu mworley(at)mathcs.emory.edu kts(at)michael.udev.cdc.com cc(at)dcs.edinburgh.ac.uk leander(at)ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
    cduff(at)sugar.NeoSoft.COM
    lvirden(at)cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
    hammond(at)niwot.scd.ucar.EDU (Steve Hammond)
    dfw(at)thumper.bellcore.com (Doris Woods)
    gibbsm(at)ll.mit.edu (MargAret D Gibbs)
    rickert(at)cco.caltech.edu (Keith Warren Rickert)
    Simon Kershaw Simon.Kershaw(at)Smallworld.co.uk
    Joel Offenberg offenbrg(at)trifle.gsfc.nasa.gov
    grant(at)oj.rsmas.miami.edu (Grant Basham)
    lmak(at)cbnewsf.cb.att.com (louisa.l.mak)
    twain(at)carson.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin) hz225wu(at)unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Micaela Pantke)
    sfisher(at)megatest.com (Scott Fisher)
    byrne(at)rcf.rsmas.miami.edu (Charlie Byrne)
    jmk5u(at)Virginia.EDU
    bae(at)gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Beverly Erlebacher) rlwilliams(at)gallua.gallaudet.edu (Skip) hwalden(at)science-store.chem.wayne.edu (Heather Walden)
    mcenter(at)amoco.com (Mike Center, PSC)
    kevin(at)eye.com (Kevin Stokker)
    steven(at)surya.cs.ucla.edu (Steven Berson)
    eric.decker(at)canrem.com (Eric Decker)
    peteo(at)ford.wpd.sgi.com (Peter Orelup)
    sk10003(at)cus.cam.ac.uk (Scott Kleinman)
    David Casseres casseres(at)apple.com Ted.Taylor(at)p4214.f104.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Taylor)
    george(at)dfds.ml.com (George Minkovsky)
    Alison(at)moose.demon.co.uk (Alison Scott)
    jae(at)world.std.com (Jon A Edelston)
    conrad(at)qpsx.oz.au (Conrad Drake)
    nadel(at)attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel)
    patricia(at)cs.utexas.edu (Patricia M. Burson)
    betsey(at)columbia.edu (Elizabeth Fike)
    leah(at)smith.chi.il.us (Leah Smith)
    steve(at)unipalm.co.uk (Steve Ladlow)
    STEVE SKHNY(at)CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
    "Sudheer Apte" apte(at)loki.hks.com
    Diane Ferrell, Leslie Basel
    rankin(at)scubed.com (Tom Rankin)
    vev(at)msen.com (Vince Vielhaber)
    HUYQ78A(at)prodigy.com (MS PHYLLIS T SPAETH)
    lenf(at)netc.om.com (Len Freedman)
    apforz(at)pfood.win.net (Andy Pforzheimer)
    wnukoski(at)crypt.erie.ge.com (George Wnukoski)
    Dan_Masi(at)Warren.mentorg.com
    robinc(at)oanet.com (Robin Cowdrey)
    merlin(at)ion.com.au (Merlin Zener)
    "Frank Fileccia" surplus(at)telusplanet.net
    "Rodger Whitlock" totototo(at)mail.pacificcoast.net
    Damsel in dis Dress damsel.in.dis.dress(at)gmail.com
    Shankar Bhattacharyya sbhattac(at)idt.net
    Sophie Laplante laplante(at)lri.fr
    Andrew Nicholson andrewn(at)lesto.com
    Ed Keith edkeith(at)home.com
    Read rweaver(at)igc.org
    T. Terrell Banks terry(at)banks-usa.com
    William Chuang wchuang(at)MIT.EDU
    Scott Jordan sjordan(at)ntrnet.net
    Terry Simpson terry(at)connected-systems.com
    Bill Boylan bill.boylan(at)cox.net
    Max Hauser maxREMOVE(at)THIStdl.com
    Vilco a(at)b.invalid
    Lyndon Watson teile(at)clear.net.nz

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    12.2 Bibliography

    This is a new section composed of the acknowledgements previously
    sprinkled through the text. More information on these books will be
    welcomed.

    1) "Trolldom in the Kitchen"
    Pat Bjaaland and Melody Favish

    2) "Larousse Gastronomique"
    ISBN 0 7493 0316 6

    Larousse Gastronomique
    The New American Edition of the World's Greatest Culinary
    Encyclopedia
    By Jenifer Harvey Lang
    Hardcover, 1193 pages
    ISBN: 0517570327
    List Price: $60.00
    Random House
    Publication Date: 10/01/88

    3) "Still Life with Menu" (K)
    Mollie Katzen
    Revised trade paperback 1995
    Still Life with Menu Cookbook
    Trade Paperback, 256 Pages, Revised, Ten Speed, March 1995
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk)
    Author: Katzen, Mollie
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk.)

    Still Life With Menu Cookbook by Katzen, Mollie
    fifty new meatless menus with original art
    Berkeley, California, Ten Speed Press, 1988
    ISBN 0898152569

    4) "Cookery in Colour" (P)
    Marguerite Patten

    5) "The Rotation Diet" (RD)

    6) "My Fun-to-cook-book" (S)
    Ursula Sedgwick

    7) "The New Food Lover's Companion"

    8) "Michel Guérard's Cuisine Minceur"
    Michel Guérard

    9) "Mastering the Art of French Cooking"
    Julia Child

    10) "The Oxford Companion to Food"
    Alan Davidson

    11) "Julia and Jacques Cooking At Home"
    by Julia Child and Jacques Pépin

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    Clean the wok with hot water and some form of scrubbing tool. The
    bamboo things they sometimes include actually work or one can use a
    nylon scrubbing pad (no brillo, SOS, or equivalent). After the wok is
    cleaned, put it back on the burner for a few minutes to heat it up and evaporate any moisture. Then, add a little oil to it and rub it around
    with a paper towel to keep it shiny and from rusting with any moisture
    it may attract in between uses.

    Another thing, when you are done cooking in the wok, put some water in
    it to soak while you eat. Cleanup takes just a few work with a nylon
    scrubbing pad and some hot water.

    Taking good care of your cookware only requires a few minutes of time
    and makes it much easier to use and cleanup. Food doesn't stick to a
    well seasoned wok. If it starts to stick, scrub it well with something
    like an S.O.S. pad and re-season.

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    5.2 Cast Iron (thank you to Tom Rankin)

    Summary:
    Make sure your cast iron is clean down to bare metal.
    Coat with fat, heat, repeat.
    Look after by never washing in soapy water and scrubbing as little as
    possible.

    Details:

    Initial cleaning: get off all the packaging oil, burnt food or
    whatever the pan has on it. Some suggestions for achieving this are
    - Wash in hot soapy water, dry thoroughly
    - Boil undiluted white vinegar in the pan for while
    - Commercial beadblasting (not sandblasting)
    - Steel wool
    - Hot embers
    - Kosher salt baked in the pan at 500°F (260°C) for 4 hours and
    scraped out again
    - Put in self-cleaning oven and turn on clean cycle

    Fats to use: a solid vegetable fat, or lard. Oil is not as suitable.

    Seasoning process: Wipe pot inside and out with melted fat. Do the lid
    too (if it's cast iron). At this point, authorities seem to diverge.
    The common theme is "get it hot and keep it hot for considerably more
    than an hour" (optionally followed by "re-coat it with fat during the process"). Two hours at 350°F (175°C), re-wiping with fat every
    30 minutes, seems sensible.

    When this has been done, the seasoning process has been begun but not
    yet completed. The first few times the pan is used, it should be for
    fairly fatty foods. Fried eggs rather than tomato soup, for example.

    Each time the pan is used, rinse with hot water and scrub if necessary.
    Don't scour or use detergent - otherwise you will need to re-season.
    Some people coat their cast iron very lightly with oil after washing,
    then wipe out after an initial heating next time they use it.

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    6 History and Lore of rec.food.cooking

    ----------------------------------------
    6.1 Origins of rec.food.cooking (thank you to Max Hauser)

    rec.food.cooking began as net.cooks, launched by friend and fellow food
    fanatic Steve Upstill in Berkeley in January 1982 with a posting on
    pragmatic pasta sauces, something Steve was then often cooking,
    including at my place. We were all cranking out a lot of fresh ribbon
    pasta with Atlas 150 (150mm) roller/cutter machines and we needed things
    to do with it. net.cooks became rec.food.cooking in the general Great
    Renaming (late 1986). Current Google archives show Steve's original
    29-Jan-82 posting, and also his 31-Jan-82 net.general announcement of net.cooks, "All about food, cooking, cookbooks, recipes and other
    alimentary effluvia." That was the "charter" of this newsgroup.
    (Discussions by the way using the specific language of newsgroup
    "charter" on net.cooks or rec.food.cooking don't appear until five years
    later in 1987, an exchange between Terry Sterkel, me, and Spafford,
    referring anyway to a different newsgroup.) Posted statistics also
    showed that net.cooks became popular immediately, one of the most
    popular newsgroups at the time. After the 1986 renaming, a Gene
    Spafford active-newsgroups list included rec.food.cooking with summary
    "Food, cooking, cookbooks, and recipes." Steve Upstill continued to
    contribute occasionally, and also to work on recipe-formatting software.
    I recall him commercializing a typesetting macro package ("-MU"), and
    recipe software for Mac platforms.

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    6.2 Some Higlights in the Life of rec.food.cooking

    - There have been quite a few rec.food.cooking cook-ins all over the
    USA, as well as a small one in Germany. The first one was hosted by
    Anne Bourget in Sacramento, California, in 1994.

    - Early in 1997, a rec.food.cooking T-shirt was produced, with the
    proceeds donated to charity. Some 220 T-shirts were sold to rfc'ers.

    - In 2002-3, a rec.food.cooking Cook.Book was published, also with the proceeds donated to charity (City Harvest, a NYC affiliate of Second
    Harvest) to help the victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. There were
    two printings, one late in 2002, the other early in 2003, and a total of
    about 740 copies were sold, also to rfc'ers.


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    6.3 What's all this about xxxx? (much of this section was copied
    verbatim from the rec.food.cooking MiniFAQ that the
    invaluable Amy Gale used to post - thank you, Amy)

    This section tries to cover a few of the most commonly confusing
    topics that may come up on the newsgroup.

    aluminium : has not been linked to Alzheimer's Disease in a
    reproducible experiment.

    Elbonia : a mythical country (probably in Eastern Europe). Comes
    from Scott Adams' "Dilbert", syndicated in newspapers and
    available at http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/

    Ingrid : Anne Bourget's Volvo, used for flattening chicken breasts.
    Now deceased, but the memory lives on.

    j/nghlm : a joke ingredient. Spelling varies.

    WWT : (Weekend With Tammy). Once upon a time, a long-time rfc
    poster named Tammy spent a weekend with another long-time
    poster who posted a long article describing their mainly
    food-related adventures. Some people took exception to
    that posting, complaining about the lack of recipes (which
    were posted separately). Many people now use the WWT
    acronym in the subject header to indicate a posting of
    similar nature.

    ObFood : 'obligatory food reference'. An old rfc tradition.
    Many people hold that, whenever one happens to post off
    topic, one is supposed to add something that has to do
    with food, ideally something that is actually interesting
    and/or useful.

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    7 This has come up once too often....

    This list is a (futile?) attempt to keep certain well-worn subjects from
    coming up yet again. Further suggestions always welcome.

    The $250 cookie recipe

    This recipe comes up often, usually here but also on other newsgroups
    (where it is even less appropriate). The story goes that a woman had a
    cookie at [usually Mrs. Field's or Neiman Marcus' cafe], and liked it
    so much she wanted the recipe. The clerk said "It will cost you
    two-fifty"; the woman thought that meant $2.50 and was shocked to find
    it meant $250. She is now spreading it to get revenge, since it was not returnable.

    There are a number of holes in the story, and no one has ever brought
    forth any evidence that it really happened. (If you want to argue that
    you know someone who knows someone who this really happened to, take it
    over to alt.folklore.urban, where they will proceed to have you for
    breakfast if you have no evidence.) More importantly, it has been
    posted more than enough times by now. Some people have tried the recipe
    and pronounced it good, but it ain't Mrs. Field's. If you would like
    the recipe, ask for someone to mail it to you.

    It has been pointed out to me that the recipe is in the standard source distribution for GNU Emacs and XEmacs. If your site has that source,
    look in the "etc" directory for a file named COOKIES.

    Most importantly, please DO NOT post it any more. There is also a Mrs
    Fields cookbook, published by Time-Life. This has recipes, but not the
    exact ones for the ones sold in the stores, as those recipes are not
    well suited to home baking.

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    8 Recipe archives and other cooking/food sites

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    8.1 Recipe archives

    There are hundreds, if not thousands, of recipe archives on the net.
    Here are some of the more popular and larger ones.

    * http://recipes.alastra.com/
    The official rec.food.recipes archive, maintained by Stephanie da
    Silva.

    * http://www.lysator.liu.se/etexts/recept/us/main.html
    Usenet Cookbook, a collection of old alt.gourmand recipes.

    * http://www.recipesource.com/
    SOAR - Searchable Online Archive of Recipes.

    * http://www.ichef.com/ichef-recipes/

    * http://www.cs.cmu.edu/%7Emjw/recipes/
    Amy Gale's recipe archives.

    * http://recipes.wenzel.net/
    RecipeLand.com's archive with 25000+ recipes.

    * http://www.astray.com/recipes/
    A searchable database of 76,000+ recipes, maintained by Leon
    Brocard.

    * http://www.recipecenter.com
    100,000+ recipes.

    * http://allrecipes.com/
    A large, searchable recipe archive.

    * http://home.uni-one.nl/the-cooking-page/
    The Cooking Page. Numerous recipe links classified by language
    (English, French, German, Dutch), by food course, and by cuisine.

    * http://www.oingo.com/topic/14/14336.html
    A well designed and functional searchable database of thousands of
    food and recipe links.

    * http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/topics/cook.htm
    Ancient and medieval recipes, and cooking and food links.

    * http://www.ajlc.waterloo.on.ca/Recipes/index.html
    A very large, meticulous index of recipes, with a search engine.

    * http://www.cdkitchen.com/
    A comprehensive cooking Web site with over 200,000 recipes,
    including a rec.food.recipes archive. By Valerie Whitmore.

    * http://www.lingualearn.co.uk/food.htm
    A collection of links to recipes, etc. of varius countries.

    * "http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm
    A Boke of Gode Cookery. A collection of Medieval recipes by James
    Matterer.

    * Copycat recipes or links to them are often requested on rfc. Two of
    the better known sites with such recipes are
    http://www.copykat.com
    and
    http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/.

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    8.2 Other cooking/food sites

    * http://www.epicurious.com/
    A general food site with a dictionary (THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION,
    by Sharon Tyler Herbst), recipes from well-known food magazines,
    etc.

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/
    Mimi's Cyber Kitchen, a general food site maintained by Mimi
    Hiller.

    * http://www-ang.kfunigraz.ac.at/~katzer/engl/index.html
    Gernot Katzer's Spice Pages, a Web spice encyclopedia, by Gernot
    Katzer.

    * http://www.foodsubs.com/ (and numerous mirrors)
    The Cook's Thesaurus. By Lori Alden. Suggests substitutions for
    thousands of cooking ingredients.

    * http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Island/3012/glossary.htm
    An A-Z glossary of Indian spices and cooking terms.

    * http://www.EuropeanCuisines.com/
    and
    http://www.owlsprings.com/the_balti_page/
    "European Cuisines" and "The Balti Page".
    By Peter Morwood & Diane Duane.

    * http://www.virtualquincy.com/quincy/recreation/recipes.html
    Directory listing of over 375 recipe and cooking websites.

    * http://www.reluctantgourmet.com/
    Cooking guide for beginner cooks.

    * http://labsoftware.com/cookbook/default.htm
    "Cooking for Graduate Students and and other beginning Kitchen
    Dwellers".

    * http://vsack.homepage.t-online.de/afa_faq.html
    Links to sites related to Asian food and cooking, as posted
    regularly to alt.food.asian by blacksalt.

    * http://www.whatscookingamerica.net/Glossary/GlossaryIndex2.htm
    Linda's Culinary Dictionary. By Linda Stradley. A listing and
    history of cooking, food, and beverage terms.

    * http://www.todine.net/dictionary.html
    Italian-English-French-Spanish-German Gastronomical Dictionary.

    * http://www.xs4all.nl/~margjos/
    English-French-German-Danish-Dutch food dictionary. By Jos and
    Marg Sparreboom.

    * http://www.theepicentre.com/glossary.html
    A glossary of spices, etc.

    * http://www.soupsong.com/ifoodta.html
    "Food tales, or everything you always wanted to know about the
    migration and lore of food."

    * http://www.breadworld.com/canada/tips/glossary/glossary.asp
    A glossary of baking terms maintained by Fleischmann's Yeast, a
    commercial entity.

    * http://www.mhr-viandes.com/en/docu/docu/d9000003.htm
    Multilingual meat and poultry glossaries.

    * http://www.aboutproduce.com/
    Recipes, nutrition info, selection tips for vegetables, fruits, nuts
    and herbs. By the Produce Marketing Association.

    * http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/rfe0.html
    Comprehensive, illustrated fish encylopaedia. An FDA resource.

    * http://navigator.tufts.edu/
    Tufts University Nutrition Navigator. Reviews and rating of
    nutrition information Web sites.

    * http://food.oregonstate.edu/glossary/all.html
    Science of Foods Glossary.

    * http://www.cahe.nmsu.edu/pubs/_e/e-131.pdf
    In A Pinch - Ingredient Substitution, a PDF file.

    * http://www.thousandeggs.com/cookbooks.html
    Links to old culinary & brewing documents online, by Cindy Renfrow.

    * http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/egg/fdnews.html
    A humongous list of culinary newsletters, magazines and journals.

    * http://www.azcentral.com/home/cooking101/
    Cooking 101.

    * http://www.gortons.com/cookbook/
    Gorton's fisherman's cookbook and fish glossary.

    * http://www.pipeline.com/~rosskat/
    A wealth of culinary information, resources, recipes, etc. on a
    rather disorganised site.

    * http://members.aol.com/Jwmike101/home.html
    Culinary resource desk. Lots of useful links.

    * http://www.psgrill.net/Encyclopedia/ENCYCLOPEDIA.html
    Large, useful food dictionary (but with some annoying
    mistranslations and misspellings).

    * http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/glossary/
    BBC's food glossary.

    * http://www.calacademy.org/research/anthropology/utensil/
    The History of Eating Utensils.

    * http://www.astaspice.org/history/history_main.htm
    ASTA's World of Spice - The history of the Spice Trade. By The
    American Spice Trade Association.

    * http://www.usmef.org/TradeLibrary/InternationalMeatManual.asp
    International Meat Manual. Corn-fed beef, grass-fed beef, veal,
    pork and lamb. In English, Japanese, Korean, Mandarin Chinese and
    Spanish. By the U.S. Meat Export Federation.

    * http://www.carnegielibrary.org/subject/food/
    Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh -- comprehensive Food and Cooking
    resource guide

    * http://www.bakingbusiness.com/refbook.asp
    The Encyclopedia of Baking offers reference, formulations and
    troubleshooting for common baking ingredients.

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    9 Food newsgroups and mailing lists

    ----------------------------------------
    9.1 rec.food.cooking

    a.k.a. us: A group for the discussion of cooking in general. Recipes
    and requests for recipes are welcome here, as are discussions of cooking techniques, equipment, etc. In short, if it has to do with cooking, it probably belongs here - though that doesn't mean it doesn't belong
    somewhere else, too!

    ----------------------------------------
    9.2 rec.food.recipes

    A moderated newsgroup for recipes and requests for recipes. Each week a
    FAQ explains how to post recipes or requests. The lead moderator is
    Tracy Carman, <recipes@swcp.com>.
    The rfr moderators' software automatically sets followups to rfc.
    The reason is, no discussion is allowed in rfr - only recipes or
    requests for same. Since some people might wish to publicly discuss
    posted recipes notwithstanding, followups to rfc serve a useful purpose.

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    9.3 rec.food.drink, rec.food.drink.beer, rec.food.drink.tea,
    rec.food.restaurants, rec.food.drink.coffee
    rec.food.sourdough, rec.food.historic

    Pretty self-explanatory.

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    9.4 rec.food.veg

    About vegetarianism. It also has its own FAQ list, with questions about
    the myths and truths of the vegetarian diet, information on where to get "cruelty-free" products, etc.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.5 rec.food.veg.cooking

    A moderated version of rec.food.veg

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    9.6 rec.food.preserving

    "Rec.food.preserving is a newsgroup devoted to the discussion of
    recipes, equipment, and techniques of food preservation. Current food preservation techniques that rightly should be discussed in this forum
    include canning, freezing, dehydration, pickling, smoking, salting,
    distilling, and potting. Foodstuffs are defined as produce (both fruits
    and vegetables), meat, fish, dairy products, culinary and medicinal
    herbs. Discussions should be limited to home-grown or home-preserved
    foods." (From the rec.food.preserving FAQ)

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    9.7 also...

    rec.crafts.winemaking
    rec.crafts.brewing
    alt.food
    alt.food.wine
    alt.coffee
    alt.food.asian
    alt.food.fat-free
    alt.food.low-fat
    alt.bacchus
    alt.food.mcdonalds (an oxymoron if ever I heard one)
    alt.food.coca-cola (mmmm....coca cola...)
    alt.food.chocolate
    alt.food.taco.bell
    alt.creative-cook
    alt.creative-cooking
    alt.cooking-chat
    alt.food.barbecue
    alt.2eggs.sausage.beans.tomatoes.2toast.largetea.cheerslove alt.food.mexican-cooking
    alt.food.sushi

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    9.8 mailing lists

    A very popular mailing list is

    Chile-Heads

    Purpose: The Chile-Heads list is intended to provide a forum
    for discussion of matters relating to chile peppers; including,
    but not limited to:

    o Growing peppers
    o Seed and plant sources
    o Exchanges of seeds/plants/pods/etc.
    o Exotic varieties
    o Storing and preserving chiles
    o Recipes using chiles
    o Other related posts

    http://globalgarden.com/Chile-Heads/list_info.phtml

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List
    All messages posted to the list are emailed immediately to
    everyone on the list.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List
    The digest will save all email messages posted to the list for
    the day and send in one email message.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from
    ftp.globalgarden.com, in pub/Chile-Heads/digest/vNN.nMMM
    (where "NN" is the volume number, and "MMM" is the issue number).

    How to Unsubscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List or Digest
    Mailing List
    To unsubscribe send email to Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    or Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    (depending on which version of the list you are subscribed to)
    with the body of the message containing:
    UNSUBSCRIBE


    Another popular mailing list is

    Bread-Bakers

    The bread-bakers digest and daily-bread mailing lists are for the
    free exchange of recipes and information related to any and all
    aspects of bread baking, by hand or by machine.
    http://www.bread-bakers.com/

    To join the bread-bakers mailing list, send mail to
    bread-bakers-request@lists.bread-bakers.com In the body of the
    message, place, in lower case with no indentation, the single word:

    subscribe

    This will subscribe you at the address that your message is sent
    from. This is almost certainly your correct address. Bestserv will
    send you a message asking you to confirm your subscription request.
    You must reply to the message changing the word REJECT in the
    subject to ACCEPT. You will get a confirmation when your
    subscription has been accepted. If you have problems subscribing,
    please write to us at bread-bakers-owner@lists.bread-bakers.com
    and we will assist you.

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    10 Other culinary FAQs (thank you to Damsel in dis Dress)

    ----------------------------------------
    10.1 Foods

    * ftp://ftp.michvhf.com/pub/rec.food.baking/FAQ
    (rec.food.baking FAQ, by B. Keith Ryder)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/sourdough/faq/preamble.html
    (rec.food.sourdough FAQ, maintained by Darrell Greenwood)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/index2.html#faq
    (Meat FAQs: Foie gras, Pig processing, Venison processing, Elk and
    caribou, Wagyu and Kobe beef; by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.macscouter.com/Cooking/DutchOven.html
    (Dutch oven cooking)

    * http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/index.html
    (BBQ FAQ, by William W. Wight)

    * http://www.bbqguide.com/meat_smoking_and_curing_faq.htm
    (Meat smoking and curing FAQ, maintained by Richard Thead)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/preserving/part1/
    (rec.food.preserving FAQ, maintained by Eric Decker)

    * http://edible-complex.home.att.net/faq-spices.html
    (Spices FAQ, by Daniel M. Germán)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/culinary-herbs/part1/
    (Culinary herbs FAQ, maintained by Henriette Kress)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/truffles.html
    (Truffles (fungi) FAQ, by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/chocolate/faq/
    (Chocolate FAQ, by Monee Kidd)

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    10.2 Beverages

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/caffeine-faq/
    (Coffee and caffeine FAQ, by Alex Lopez-Ortiz)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/tea/faq/
    (Tea FAQ, by Christopher Roberson)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/wine-faq/part1/
    (Wine FAQ, by Bradford S. Brown)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/crafts/winemaking-faq/
    (Winemaking FAQ, by Don Buchan)

    * http://www.beerinfo.com/rfdb/faq.html
    (Beer FAQ, by John A. Lock)

    * http://hbd.org/brewery/library/absfaq.html
    (Absinthe FAQ, by Matthew Baggott)

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    10.3 Religion, lifestyle and special diets

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/rfcj/kosherfaq.htm
    (Kosher food, by Pat Gold, Beth Greenfeld, and Ruth Heiges)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/vegetarian/faq/
    (rec.food.veg (vegetarian) FAQ, by Michael Traub)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/fatfree/faq/
    (Fat-free FAQ, by Michelle Dick)

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    10.4 Miscellaneous

    * http://FAQs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/cooking/common-topics
    (Commonly discussed topics, by Stephanie da Silva)

    * http://www.thepurplehouse.net/wedding/cookware.txt
    (Cookware FAQ, by Oliver Sharp)

    * http://www.sff.net/people/pff/sharp.txt
    (Knife FAQs: Plain vs. serrated edges, Knife sharpening,
    Steel types, by Joe Talmadge)

    * http://www.survival-center.com/foodfaq/ff1-toc.htm
    (Food storage FAQ, by Alan T. Hagan)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sci/food-science-faq/part1/
    (Food science FAQ, by Rachel Zemser, J. Ralph Blanchfield, and Paul
    King)

    ----------------------------------------
    10.5 Humour

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/kool-aid-faq/
    (Kool-Aid FAQ, by Paul and Bess Dawson-Schmidt)

    * http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/bofh-food-faq
    (bofh.food FAQ, by J.D. Falk)

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    11 "Unofficial" rec.food.cooking Web site

    Damsel in dis Dress used to maintain what many people regarded as the 'unofficial' rec.food.cooking site, with sections devoted to rfc chat,
    rfc 'signature' dishes, rfc cook-in reports, and rfc birthdays.
    Chatty Cathy is currently in charge of the site, which contains all of
    the above and more, particularly a link to the rfc map set up by
    Christine Dabney. The site is located at
    http://www.recfoodcooking.org

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    12 Sources

    Lots of wonderful people helped compile this list - again, much
    acknowledgement is due to Cindy Kandolf for putting this entire thing
    together and to Amy Gale for maintaining it and adding to it for many
    years.

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    12.1 Contributors

    The other wonderful people are :

    carolynd(at)sail.labs.tek.com
    ekman(at)netc.om.com
    arielle(at)aronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
    rs7x+(at)andrew.cmu.edu
    jane(at)cse.lbl.gov
    jonog(at)g2syd.genasys.com.au anita(at)devvax.mincom.oz.au sbookey(at)ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey) ccd(at)ccdadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au pmmuggli(at)uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu chu(at)acsu.buffalo.edu cdfk(at)otter.hpl.hp.com dudek(at)ksr.com aem(at)symbiosis.ahp.com wald(at)theory.lcs.mit.edu harvey(at)indyvax.iupui.edu ed(at)pa.dec.com ndkj(at)vax5.cit.cornell.edu ekman(at)netc.om.com
    otten(at)icase.edu jane(at)cse.lbl.gov loosemore-sandra(at)cs.yale.edu mworley(at)mathcs.emory.edu kts(at)michael.udev.cdc.com cc(at)dcs.edinburgh.ac.uk leander(at)ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
    cduff(at)sugar.NeoSoft.COM
    lvirden(at)cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
    hammond(at)niwot.scd.ucar.EDU (Steve Hammond)
    dfw(at)thumper.bellcore.com (Doris Woods)
    gibbsm(at)ll.mit.edu (MargAret D Gibbs)
    rickert(at)cco.caltech.edu (Keith Warren Rickert)
    Simon Kershaw Simon.Kershaw(at)Smallworld.co.uk
    Joel Offenberg offenbrg(at)trifle.gsfc.nasa.gov
    grant(at)oj.rsmas.miami.edu (Grant Basham)
    lmak(at)cbnewsf.cb.att.com (louisa.l.mak)
    twain(at)carson.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin) hz225wu(at)unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Micaela Pantke)
    sfisher(at)megatest.com (Scott Fisher)
    byrne(at)rcf.rsmas.miami.edu (Charlie Byrne)
    jmk5u(at)Virginia.EDU
    bae(at)gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Beverly Erlebacher) rlwilliams(at)gallua.gallaudet.edu (Skip) hwalden(at)science-store.chem.wayne.edu (Heather Walden)
    mcenter(at)amoco.com (Mike Center, PSC)
    kevin(at)eye.com (Kevin Stokker)
    steven(at)surya.cs.ucla.edu (Steven Berson)
    eric.decker(at)canrem.com (Eric Decker)
    peteo(at)ford.wpd.sgi.com (Peter Orelup)
    sk10003(at)cus.cam.ac.uk (Scott Kleinman)
    David Casseres casseres(at)apple.com Ted.Taylor(at)p4214.f104.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Taylor)
    george(at)dfds.ml.com (George Minkovsky)
    Alison(at)moose.demon.co.uk (Alison Scott)
    jae(at)world.std.com (Jon A Edelston)
    conrad(at)qpsx.oz.au (Conrad Drake)
    nadel(at)attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel)
    patricia(at)cs.utexas.edu (Patricia M. Burson)
    betsey(at)columbia.edu (Elizabeth Fike)
    leah(at)smith.chi.il.us (Leah Smith)
    steve(at)unipalm.co.uk (Steve Ladlow)
    STEVE SKHNY(at)CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
    "Sudheer Apte" apte(at)loki.hks.com
    Diane Ferrell, Leslie Basel
    rankin(at)scubed.com (Tom Rankin)
    vev(at)msen.com (Vince Vielhaber)
    HUYQ78A(at)prodigy.com (MS PHYLLIS T SPAETH)
    lenf(at)netc.om.com (Len Freedman)
    apforz(at)pfood.win.net (Andy Pforzheimer)
    wnukoski(at)crypt.erie.ge.com (George Wnukoski)
    Dan_Masi(at)Warren.mentorg.com
    robinc(at)oanet.com (Robin Cowdrey)
    merlin(at)ion.com.au (Merlin Zener)
    "Frank Fileccia" surplus(at)telusplanet.net
    "Rodger Whitlock" totototo(at)mail.pacificcoast.net
    Damsel in dis Dress damsel.in.dis.dress(at)gmail.com
    Shankar Bhattacharyya sbhattac(at)idt.net
    Sophie Laplante laplante(at)lri.fr
    Andrew Nicholson andrewn(at)lesto.com
    Ed Keith edkeith(at)home.com
    Read rweaver(at)igc.org
    T. Terrell Banks terry(at)banks-usa.com
    William Chuang wchuang(at)MIT.EDU
    Scott Jordan sjordan(at)ntrnet.net
    Terry Simpson terry(at)connected-systems.com
    Bill Boylan bill.boylan(at)cox.net
    Max Hauser maxREMOVE(at)THIStdl.com
    Vilco a(at)b.invalid
    Lyndon Watson teile(at)clear.net.nz

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    12.2 Bibliography

    This is a new section composed of the acknowledgements previously
    sprinkled through the text. More information on these books will be
    welcomed.

    1) "Trolldom in the Kitchen"
    Pat Bjaaland and Melody Favish

    2) "Larousse Gastronomique"
    ISBN 0 7493 0316 6

    Larousse Gastronomique
    The New American Edition of the World's Greatest Culinary
    Encyclopedia
    By Jenifer Harvey Lang
    Hardcover, 1193 pages
    ISBN: 0517570327
    List Price: $60.00
    Random House
    Publication Date: 10/01/88

    3) "Still Life with Menu" (K)
    Mollie Katzen
    Revised trade paperback 1995
    Still Life with Menu Cookbook
    Trade Paperback, 256 Pages, Revised, Ten Speed, March 1995
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk)
    Author: Katzen, Mollie
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk.)

    Still Life With Menu Cookbook by Katzen, Mollie
    fifty new meatless menus with original art
    Berkeley, California, Ten Speed Press, 1988
    ISBN 0898152569

    4) "Cookery in Colour" (P)
    Marguerite Patten

    5) "The Rotation Diet" (RD)

    6) "My Fun-to-cook-book" (S)
    Ursula Sedgwick

    7) "The New Food Lover's Companion"

    8) "Michel Guérard's Cuisine Minceur"
    Michel Guérard

    9) "Mastering the Art of French Cooking"
    Julia Child

    10) "The Oxford Companion to Food"
    Alan Davidson

    11) "Julia and Jacques Cooking At Home"
    by Julia Child and Jacques Pépin

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    Clean the wok with hot water and some form of scrubbing tool. The
    bamboo things they sometimes include actually work or one can use a
    nylon scrubbing pad (no brillo, SOS, or equivalent). After the wok is
    cleaned, put it back on the burner for a few minutes to heat it up and evaporate any moisture. Then, add a little oil to it and rub it around
    with a paper towel to keep it shiny and from rusting with any moisture
    it may attract in between uses.

    Another thing, when you are done cooking in the wok, put some water in
    it to soak while you eat. Cleanup takes just a few work with a nylon
    scrubbing pad and some hot water.

    Taking good care of your cookware only requires a few minutes of time
    and makes it much easier to use and cleanup. Food doesn't stick to a
    well seasoned wok. If it starts to stick, scrub it well with something
    like an S.O.S. pad and re-season.

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    5.2 Cast Iron (thank you to Tom Rankin)

    Summary:
    Make sure your cast iron is clean down to bare metal.
    Coat with fat, heat, repeat.
    Look after by never washing in soapy water and scrubbing as little as
    possible.

    Details:

    Initial cleaning: get off all the packaging oil, burnt food or
    whatever the pan has on it. Some suggestions for achieving this are
    - Wash in hot soapy water, dry thoroughly
    - Boil undiluted white vinegar in the pan for while
    - Commercial beadblasting (not sandblasting)
    - Steel wool
    - Hot embers
    - Kosher salt baked in the pan at 500°F (260°C) for 4 hours and
    scraped out again
    - Put in self-cleaning oven and turn on clean cycle

    Fats to use: a solid vegetable fat, or lard. Oil is not as suitable.

    Seasoning process: Wipe pot inside and out with melted fat. Do the lid
    too (if it's cast iron). At this point, authorities seem to diverge.
    The common theme is "get it hot and keep it hot for considerably more
    than an hour" (optionally followed by "re-coat it with fat during the process"). Two hours at 350°F (175°C), re-wiping with fat every
    30 minutes, seems sensible.

    When this has been done, the seasoning process has been begun but not
    yet completed. The first few times the pan is used, it should be for
    fairly fatty foods. Fried eggs rather than tomato soup, for example.

    Each time the pan is used, rinse with hot water and scrub if necessary.
    Don't scour or use detergent - otherwise you will need to re-season.
    Some people coat their cast iron very lightly with oil after washing,
    then wipe out after an initial heating next time they use it.

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    6 History and Lore of rec.food.cooking

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    6.1 Origins of rec.food.cooking (thank you to Max Hauser)

    rec.food.cooking began as net.cooks, launched by friend and fellow food
    fanatic Steve Upstill in Berkeley in January 1982 with a posting on
    pragmatic pasta sauces, something Steve was then often cooking,
    including at my place. We were all cranking out a lot of fresh ribbon
    pasta with Atlas 150 (150mm) roller/cutter machines and we needed things
    to do with it. net.cooks became rec.food.cooking in the general Great
    Renaming (late 1986). Current Google archives show Steve's original
    29-Jan-82 posting, and also his 31-Jan-82 net.general announcement of net.cooks, "All about food, cooking, cookbooks, recipes and other
    alimentary effluvia." That was the "charter" of this newsgroup.
    (Discussions by the way using the specific language of newsgroup
    "charter" on net.cooks or rec.food.cooking don't appear until five years
    later in 1987, an exchange between Terry Sterkel, me, and Spafford,
    referring anyway to a different newsgroup.) Posted statistics also
    showed that net.cooks became popular immediately, one of the most
    popular newsgroups at the time. After the 1986 renaming, a Gene
    Spafford active-newsgroups list included rec.food.cooking with summary
    "Food, cooking, cookbooks, and recipes." Steve Upstill continued to
    contribute occasionally, and also to work on recipe-formatting software.
    I recall him commercializing a typesetting macro package ("-MU"), and
    recipe software for Mac platforms.

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    6.2 Some Higlights in the Life of rec.food.cooking

    - There have been quite a few rec.food.cooking cook-ins all over the
    USA, as well as a small one in Germany. The first one was hosted by
    Anne Bourget in Sacramento, California, in 1994.

    - Early in 1997, a rec.food.cooking T-shirt was produced, with the
    proceeds donated to charity. Some 220 T-shirts were sold to rfc'ers.

    - In 2002-3, a rec.food.cooking Cook.Book was published, also with the proceeds donated to charity (City Harvest, a NYC affiliate of Second
    Harvest) to help the victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. There were
    two printings, one late in 2002, the other early in 2003, and a total of
    about 740 copies were sold, also to rfc'ers.


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    6.3 What's all this about xxxx? (much of this section was copied
    verbatim from the rec.food.cooking MiniFAQ that the
    invaluable Amy Gale used to post - thank you, Amy)

    This section tries to cover a few of the most commonly confusing
    topics that may come up on the newsgroup.

    aluminium : has not been linked to Alzheimer's Disease in a
    reproducible experiment.

    Elbonia : a mythical country (probably in Eastern Europe). Comes
    from Scott Adams' "Dilbert", syndicated in newspapers and
    available at http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/

    Ingrid : Anne Bourget's Volvo, used for flattening chicken breasts.
    Now deceased, but the memory lives on.

    j/nghlm : a joke ingredient. Spelling varies.

    WWT : (Weekend With Tammy). Once upon a time, a long-time rfc
    poster named Tammy spent a weekend with another long-time
    poster who posted a long article describing their mainly
    food-related adventures. Some people took exception to
    that posting, complaining about the lack of recipes (which
    were posted separately). Many people now use the WWT
    acronym in the subject header to indicate a posting of
    similar nature.

    ObFood : 'obligatory food reference'. An old rfc tradition.
    Many people hold that, whenever one happens to post off
    topic, one is supposed to add something that has to do
    with food, ideally something that is actually interesting
    and/or useful.

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    7 This has come up once too often....

    This list is a (futile?) attempt to keep certain well-worn subjects from
    coming up yet again. Further suggestions always welcome.

    The $250 cookie recipe

    This recipe comes up often, usually here but also on other newsgroups
    (where it is even less appropriate). The story goes that a woman had a
    cookie at [usually Mrs. Field's or Neiman Marcus' cafe], and liked it
    so much she wanted the recipe. The clerk said "It will cost you
    two-fifty"; the woman thought that meant $2.50 and was shocked to find
    it meant $250. She is now spreading it to get revenge, since it was not returnable.

    There are a number of holes in the story, and no one has ever brought
    forth any evidence that it really happened. (If you want to argue that
    you know someone who knows someone who this really happened to, take it
    over to alt.folklore.urban, where they will proceed to have you for
    breakfast if you have no evidence.) More importantly, it has been
    posted more than enough times by now. Some people have tried the recipe
    and pronounced it good, but it ain't Mrs. Field's. If you would like
    the recipe, ask for someone to mail it to you.

    It has been pointed out to me that the recipe is in the standard source distribution for GNU Emacs and XEmacs. If your site has that source,
    look in the "etc" directory for a file named COOKIES.

    Most importantly, please DO NOT post it any more. There is also a Mrs
    Fields cookbook, published by Time-Life. This has recipes, but not the
    exact ones for the ones sold in the stores, as those recipes are not
    well suited to home baking.

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    8 Recipe archives and other cooking/food sites

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    8.1 Recipe archives

    There are hundreds, if not thousands, of recipe archives on the net.
    Here are some of the more popular and larger ones.

    * http://recipes.alastra.com/
    The official rec.food.recipes archive, maintained by Stephanie da
    Silva.

    * http://www.lysator.liu.se/etexts/recept/us/main.html
    Usenet Cookbook, a collection of old alt.gourmand recipes.

    * http://www.recipesource.com/
    SOAR - Searchable Online Archive of Recipes.

    * http://www.ichef.com/ichef-recipes/

    * http://www.cs.cmu.edu/%7Emjw/recipes/
    Amy Gale's recipe archives.

    * http://recipes.wenzel.net/
    RecipeLand.com's archive with 25000+ recipes.

    * http://www.astray.com/recipes/
    A searchable database of 76,000+ recipes, maintained by Leon
    Brocard.

    * http://www.recipecenter.com
    100,000+ recipes.

    * http://allrecipes.com/
    A large, searchable recipe archive.

    * http://home.uni-one.nl/the-cooking-page/
    The Cooking Page. Numerous recipe links classified by language
    (English, French, German, Dutch), by food course, and by cuisine.

    * http://www.oingo.com/topic/14/14336.html
    A well designed and functional searchable database of thousands of
    food and recipe links.

    * http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/topics/cook.htm
    Ancient and medieval recipes, and cooking and food links.

    * http://www.ajlc.waterloo.on.ca/Recipes/index.html
    A very large, meticulous index of recipes, with a search engine.

    * http://www.cdkitchen.com/
    A comprehensive cooking Web site with over 200,000 recipes,
    including a rec.food.recipes archive. By Valerie Whitmore.

    * http://www.lingualearn.co.uk/food.htm
    A collection of links to recipes, etc. of varius countries.

    * "http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm
    A Boke of Gode Cookery. A collection of Medieval recipes by James
    Matterer.

    * Copycat recipes or links to them are often requested on rfc. Two of
    the better known sites with such recipes are
    http://www.copykat.com
    and
    http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/.

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    8.2 Other cooking/food sites

    * http://www.epicurious.com/
    A general food site with a dictionary (THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION,
    by Sharon Tyler Herbst), recipes from well-known food magazines,
    etc.

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/
    Mimi's Cyber Kitchen, a general food site maintained by Mimi
    Hiller.

    * http://www-ang.kfunigraz.ac.at/~katzer/engl/index.html
    Gernot Katzer's Spice Pages, a Web spice encyclopedia, by Gernot
    Katzer.

    * http://www.foodsubs.com/ (and numerous mirrors)
    The Cook's Thesaurus. By Lori Alden. Suggests substitutions for
    thousands of cooking ingredients.

    * http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Island/3012/glossary.htm
    An A-Z glossary of Indian spices and cooking terms.

    * http://www.EuropeanCuisines.com/
    and
    http://www.owlsprings.com/the_balti_page/
    "European Cuisines" and "The Balti Page".
    By Peter Morwood & Diane Duane.

    * http://www.virtualquincy.com/quincy/recreation/recipes.html
    Directory listing of over 375 recipe and cooking websites.

    * http://www.reluctantgourmet.com/
    Cooking guide for beginner cooks.

    * http://labsoftware.com/cookbook/default.htm
    "Cooking for Graduate Students and and other beginning Kitchen
    Dwellers".

    * http://vsack.homepage.t-online.de/afa_faq.html
    Links to sites related to Asian food and cooking, as posted
    regularly to alt.food.asian by blacksalt.

    * http://www.whatscookingamerica.net/Glossary/GlossaryIndex2.htm
    Linda's Culinary Dictionary. By Linda Stradley. A listing and
    history of cooking, food, and beverage terms.

    * http://www.todine.net/dictionary.html
    Italian-English-French-Spanish-German Gastronomical Dictionary.

    * http://www.xs4all.nl/~margjos/
    English-French-German-Danish-Dutch food dictionary. By Jos and
    Marg Sparreboom.

    * http://www.theepicentre.com/glossary.html
    A glossary of spices, etc.

    * http://www.soupsong.com/ifoodta.html
    "Food tales, or everything you always wanted to know about the
    migration and lore of food."

    * http://www.breadworld.com/canada/tips/glossary/glossary.asp
    A glossary of baking terms maintained by Fleischmann's Yeast, a
    commercial entity.

    * http://www.mhr-viandes.com/en/docu/docu/d9000003.htm
    Multilingual meat and poultry glossaries.

    * http://www.aboutproduce.com/
    Recipes, nutrition info, selection tips for vegetables, fruits, nuts
    and herbs. By the Produce Marketing Association.

    * http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/rfe0.html
    Comprehensive, illustrated fish encylopaedia. An FDA resource.

    * http://navigator.tufts.edu/
    Tufts University Nutrition Navigator. Reviews and rating of
    nutrition information Web sites.

    * http://food.oregonstate.edu/glossary/all.html
    Science of Foods Glossary.

    * http://www.cahe.nmsu.edu/pubs/_e/e-131.pdf
    In A Pinch - Ingredient Substitution, a PDF file.

    * http://www.thousandeggs.com/cookbooks.html
    Links to old culinary & brewing documents online, by Cindy Renfrow.

    * http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/egg/fdnews.html
    A humongous list of culinary newsletters, magazines and journals.

    * http://www.azcentral.com/home/cooking101/
    Cooking 101.

    * http://www.gortons.com/cookbook/
    Gorton's fisherman's cookbook and fish glossary.

    * http://www.pipeline.com/~rosskat/
    A wealth of culinary information, resources, recipes, etc. on a
    rather disorganised site.

    * http://members.aol.com/Jwmike101/home.html
    Culinary resource desk. Lots of useful links.

    * http://www.psgrill.net/Encyclopedia/ENCYCLOPEDIA.html
    Large, useful food dictionary (but with some annoying
    mistranslations and misspellings).

    * http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/glossary/
    BBC's food glossary.

    * http://www.calacademy.org/research/anthropology/utensil/
    The History of Eating Utensils.

    * http://www.astaspice.org/history/history_main.htm
    ASTA's World of Spice - The history of the Spice Trade. By The
    American Spice Trade Association.

    * http://www.usmef.org/TradeLibrary/InternationalMeatManual.asp
    International Meat Manual. Corn-fed beef, grass-fed beef, veal,
    pork and lamb. In English, Japanese, Korean, Mandarin Chinese and
    Spanish. By the U.S. Meat Export Federation.

    * http://www.carnegielibrary.org/subject/food/
    Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh -- comprehensive Food and Cooking
    resource guide

    * http://www.bakingbusiness.com/refbook.asp
    The Encyclopedia of Baking offers reference, formulations and
    troubleshooting for common baking ingredients.

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    9 Food newsgroups and mailing lists

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    9.1 rec.food.cooking

    a.k.a. us: A group for the discussion of cooking in general. Recipes
    and requests for recipes are welcome here, as are discussions of cooking techniques, equipment, etc. In short, if it has to do with cooking, it probably belongs here - though that doesn't mean it doesn't belong
    somewhere else, too!

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    9.2 rec.food.recipes

    A moderated newsgroup for recipes and requests for recipes. Each week a
    FAQ explains how to post recipes or requests. The lead moderator is
    Tracy Carman, <recipes@swcp.com>.
    The rfr moderators' software automatically sets followups to rfc.
    The reason is, no discussion is allowed in rfr - only recipes or
    requests for same. Since some people might wish to publicly discuss
    posted recipes notwithstanding, followups to rfc serve a useful purpose.

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    9.3 rec.food.drink, rec.food.drink.beer, rec.food.drink.tea,
    rec.food.restaurants, rec.food.drink.coffee
    rec.food.sourdough, rec.food.historic

    Pretty self-explanatory.

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    9.4 rec.food.veg

    About vegetarianism. It also has its own FAQ list, with questions about
    the myths and truths of the vegetarian diet, information on where to get "cruelty-free" products, etc.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.5 rec.food.veg.cooking

    A moderated version of rec.food.veg

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    9.6 rec.food.preserving

    "Rec.food.preserving is a newsgroup devoted to the discussion of
    recipes, equipment, and techniques of food preservation. Current food preservation techniques that rightly should be discussed in this forum
    include canning, freezing, dehydration, pickling, smoking, salting,
    distilling, and potting. Foodstuffs are defined as produce (both fruits
    and vegetables), meat, fish, dairy products, culinary and medicinal
    herbs. Discussions should be limited to home-grown or home-preserved
    foods." (From the rec.food.preserving FAQ)

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    9.7 also...

    rec.crafts.winemaking
    rec.crafts.brewing
    alt.food
    alt.food.wine
    alt.coffee
    alt.food.asian
    alt.food.fat-free
    alt.food.low-fat
    alt.bacchus
    alt.food.mcdonalds (an oxymoron if ever I heard one)
    alt.food.coca-cola (mmmm....coca cola...)
    alt.food.chocolate
    alt.food.taco.bell
    alt.creative-cook
    alt.creative-cooking
    alt.cooking-chat
    alt.food.barbecue
    alt.2eggs.sausage.beans.tomatoes.2toast.largetea.cheerslove alt.food.mexican-cooking
    alt.food.sushi

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    9.8 mailing lists

    A very popular mailing list is

    Chile-Heads

    Purpose: The Chile-Heads list is intended to provide a forum
    for discussion of matters relating to chile peppers; including,
    but not limited to:

    o Growing peppers
    o Seed and plant sources
    o Exchanges of seeds/plants/pods/etc.
    o Exotic varieties
    o Storing and preserving chiles
    o Recipes using chiles
    o Other related posts

    http://globalgarden.com/Chile-Heads/list_info.phtml

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List
    All messages posted to the list are emailed immediately to
    everyone on the list.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List
    The digest will save all email messages posted to the list for
    the day and send in one email message.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from
    ftp.globalgarden.com, in pub/Chile-Heads/digest/vNN.nMMM
    (where "NN" is the volume number, and "MMM" is the issue number).

    How to Unsubscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List or Digest
    Mailing List
    To unsubscribe send email to Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    or Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    (depending on which version of the list you are subscribed to)
    with the body of the message containing:
    UNSUBSCRIBE


    Another popular mailing list is

    Bread-Bakers

    The bread-bakers digest and daily-bread mailing lists are for the
    free exchange of recipes and information related to any and all
    aspects of bread baking, by hand or by machine.
    http://www.bread-bakers.com/

    To join the bread-bakers mailing list, send mail to
    bread-bakers-request@lists.bread-bakers.com In the body of the
    message, place, in lower case with no indentation, the single word:

    subscribe

    This will subscribe you at the address that your message is sent
    from. This is almost certainly your correct address. Bestserv will
    send you a message asking you to confirm your subscription request.
    You must reply to the message changing the word REJECT in the
    subject to ACCEPT. You will get a confirmation when your
    subscription has been accepted. If you have problems subscribing,
    please write to us at bread-bakers-owner@lists.bread-bakers.com
    and we will assist you.

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    10 Other culinary FAQs (thank you to Damsel in dis Dress)

    ----------------------------------------
    10.1 Foods

    * ftp://ftp.michvhf.com/pub/rec.food.baking/FAQ
    (rec.food.baking FAQ, by B. Keith Ryder)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/sourdough/faq/preamble.html
    (rec.food.sourdough FAQ, maintained by Darrell Greenwood)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/index2.html#faq
    (Meat FAQs: Foie gras, Pig processing, Venison processing, Elk and
    caribou, Wagyu and Kobe beef; by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.macscouter.com/Cooking/DutchOven.html
    (Dutch oven cooking)

    * http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/index.html
    (BBQ FAQ, by William W. Wight)

    * http://www.bbqguide.com/meat_smoking_and_curing_faq.htm
    (Meat smoking and curing FAQ, maintained by Richard Thead)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/preserving/part1/
    (rec.food.preserving FAQ, maintained by Eric Decker)

    * http://edible-complex.home.att.net/faq-spices.html
    (Spices FAQ, by Daniel M. Germán)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/culinary-herbs/part1/
    (Culinary herbs FAQ, maintained by Henriette Kress)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/truffles.html
    (Truffles (fungi) FAQ, by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/chocolate/faq/
    (Chocolate FAQ, by Monee Kidd)

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    10.2 Beverages

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/caffeine-faq/
    (Coffee and caffeine FAQ, by Alex Lopez-Ortiz)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/tea/faq/
    (Tea FAQ, by Christopher Roberson)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/wine-faq/part1/
    (Wine FAQ, by Bradford S. Brown)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/crafts/winemaking-faq/
    (Winemaking FAQ, by Don Buchan)

    * http://www.beerinfo.com/rfdb/faq.html
    (Beer FAQ, by John A. Lock)

    * http://hbd.org/brewery/library/absfaq.html
    (Absinthe FAQ, by Matthew Baggott)

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    10.3 Religion, lifestyle and special diets

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/rfcj/kosherfaq.htm
    (Kosher food, by Pat Gold, Beth Greenfeld, and Ruth Heiges)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/vegetarian/faq/
    (rec.food.veg (vegetarian) FAQ, by Michael Traub)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/fatfree/faq/
    (Fat-free FAQ, by Michelle Dick)

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    10.4 Miscellaneous

    * http://FAQs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/cooking/common-topics
    (Commonly discussed topics, by Stephanie da Silva)

    * http://www.thepurplehouse.net/wedding/cookware.txt
    (Cookware FAQ, by Oliver Sharp)

    * http://www.sff.net/people/pff/sharp.txt
    (Knife FAQs: Plain vs. serrated edges, Knife sharpening,
    Steel types, by Joe Talmadge)

    * http://www.survival-center.com/foodfaq/ff1-toc.htm
    (Food storage FAQ, by Alan T. Hagan)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sci/food-science-faq/part1/
    (Food science FAQ, by Rachel Zemser, J. Ralph Blanchfield, and Paul
    King)

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    10.5 Humour

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/kool-aid-faq/
    (Kool-Aid FAQ, by Paul and Bess Dawson-Schmidt)

    * http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/bofh-food-faq
    (bofh.food FAQ, by J.D. Falk)

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    11 "Unofficial" rec.food.cooking Web site

    Damsel in dis Dress used to maintain what many people regarded as the 'unofficial' rec.food.cooking site, with sections devoted to rfc chat,
    rfc 'signature' dishes, rfc cook-in reports, and rfc birthdays.
    Chatty Cathy is currently in charge of the site, which contains all of
    the above and more, particularly a link to the rfc map set up by
    Christine Dabney. The site is located at
    http://www.recfoodcooking.org

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    12 Sources

    Lots of wonderful people helped compile this list - again, much
    acknowledgement is due to Cindy Kandolf for putting this entire thing
    together and to Amy Gale for maintaining it and adding to it for many
    years.

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    12.1 Contributors

    The other wonderful people are :

    carolynd(at)sail.labs.tek.com
    ekman(at)netc.om.com
    arielle(at)aronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
    rs7x+(at)andrew.cmu.edu
    jane(at)cse.lbl.gov
    jonog(at)g2syd.genasys.com.au anita(at)devvax.mincom.oz.au sbookey(at)ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey) ccd(at)ccdadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au pmmuggli(at)uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu chu(at)acsu.buffalo.edu cdfk(at)otter.hpl.hp.com dudek(at)ksr.com aem(at)symbiosis.ahp.com wald(at)theory.lcs.mit.edu harvey(at)indyvax.iupui.edu ed(at)pa.dec.com ndkj(at)vax5.cit.cornell.edu ekman(at)netc.om.com
    otten(at)icase.edu jane(at)cse.lbl.gov loosemore-sandra(at)cs.yale.edu mworley(at)mathcs.emory.edu kts(at)michael.udev.cdc.com cc(at)dcs.edinburgh.ac.uk leander(at)ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
    cduff(at)sugar.NeoSoft.COM
    lvirden(at)cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
    hammond(at)niwot.scd.ucar.EDU (Steve Hammond)
    dfw(at)thumper.bellcore.com (Doris Woods)
    gibbsm(at)ll.mit.edu (MargAret D Gibbs)
    rickert(at)cco.caltech.edu (Keith Warren Rickert)
    Simon Kershaw Simon.Kershaw(at)Smallworld.co.uk
    Joel Offenberg offenbrg(at)trifle.gsfc.nasa.gov
    grant(at)oj.rsmas.miami.edu (Grant Basham)
    lmak(at)cbnewsf.cb.att.com (louisa.l.mak)
    twain(at)carson.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin) hz225wu(at)unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Micaela Pantke)
    sfisher(at)megatest.com (Scott Fisher)
    byrne(at)rcf.rsmas.miami.edu (Charlie Byrne)
    jmk5u(at)Virginia.EDU
    bae(at)gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Beverly Erlebacher) rlwilliams(at)gallua.gallaudet.edu (Skip) hwalden(at)science-store.chem.wayne.edu (Heather Walden)
    mcenter(at)amoco.com (Mike Center, PSC)
    kevin(at)eye.com (Kevin Stokker)
    steven(at)surya.cs.ucla.edu (Steven Berson)
    eric.decker(at)canrem.com (Eric Decker)
    peteo(at)ford.wpd.sgi.com (Peter Orelup)
    sk10003(at)cus.cam.ac.uk (Scott Kleinman)
    David Casseres casseres(at)apple.com Ted.Taylor(at)p4214.f104.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Taylor)
    george(at)dfds.ml.com (George Minkovsky)
    Alison(at)moose.demon.co.uk (Alison Scott)
    jae(at)world.std.com (Jon A Edelston)
    conrad(at)qpsx.oz.au (Conrad Drake)
    nadel(at)attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel)
    patricia(at)cs.utexas.edu (Patricia M. Burson)
    betsey(at)columbia.edu (Elizabeth Fike)
    leah(at)smith.chi.il.us (Leah Smith)
    steve(at)unipalm.co.uk (Steve Ladlow)
    STEVE SKHNY(at)CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
    "Sudheer Apte" apte(at)loki.hks.com
    Diane Ferrell, Leslie Basel
    rankin(at)scubed.com (Tom Rankin)
    vev(at)msen.com (Vince Vielhaber)
    HUYQ78A(at)prodigy.com (MS PHYLLIS T SPAETH)
    lenf(at)netc.om.com (Len Freedman)
    apforz(at)pfood.win.net (Andy Pforzheimer)
    wnukoski(at)crypt.erie.ge.com (George Wnukoski)
    Dan_Masi(at)Warren.mentorg.com
    robinc(at)oanet.com (Robin Cowdrey)
    merlin(at)ion.com.au (Merlin Zener)
    "Frank Fileccia" surplus(at)telusplanet.net
    "Rodger Whitlock" totototo(at)mail.pacificcoast.net
    Damsel in dis Dress damsel.in.dis.dress(at)gmail.com
    Shankar Bhattacharyya sbhattac(at)idt.net
    Sophie Laplante laplante(at)lri.fr
    Andrew Nicholson andrewn(at)lesto.com
    Ed Keith edkeith(at)home.com
    Read rweaver(at)igc.org
    T. Terrell Banks terry(at)banks-usa.com
    William Chuang wchuang(at)MIT.EDU
    Scott Jordan sjordan(at)ntrnet.net
    Terry Simpson terry(at)connected-systems.com
    Bill Boylan bill.boylan(at)cox.net
    Max Hauser maxREMOVE(at)THIStdl.com
    Vilco a(at)b.invalid
    Lyndon Watson teile(at)clear.net.nz

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    12.2 Bibliography

    This is a new section composed of the acknowledgements previously
    sprinkled through the text. More information on these books will be
    welcomed.

    1) "Trolldom in the Kitchen"
    Pat Bjaaland and Melody Favish

    2) "Larousse Gastronomique"
    ISBN 0 7493 0316 6

    Larousse Gastronomique
    The New American Edition of the World's Greatest Culinary
    Encyclopedia
    By Jenifer Harvey Lang
    Hardcover, 1193 pages
    ISBN: 0517570327
    List Price: $60.00
    Random House
    Publication Date: 10/01/88

    3) "Still Life with Menu" (K)
    Mollie Katzen
    Revised trade paperback 1995
    Still Life with Menu Cookbook
    Trade Paperback, 256 Pages, Revised, Ten Speed, March 1995
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk)
    Author: Katzen, Mollie
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk.)

    Still Life With Menu Cookbook by Katzen, Mollie
    fifty new meatless menus with original art
    Berkeley, California, Ten Speed Press, 1988
    ISBN 0898152569

    4) "Cookery in Colour" (P)
    Marguerite Patten

    5) "The Rotation Diet" (RD)

    6) "My Fun-to-cook-book" (S)
    Ursula Sedgwick

    7) "The New Food Lover's Companion"

    8) "Michel Guérard's Cuisine Minceur"
    Michel Guérard

    9) "Mastering the Art of French Cooking"
    Julia Child

    10) "The Oxford Companion to Food"
    Alan Davidson

    11) "Julia and Jacques Cooking At Home"
    by Julia Child and Jacques Pépin

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    Clean the wok with hot water and some form of scrubbing tool. The
    bamboo things they sometimes include actually work or one can use a
    nylon scrubbing pad (no brillo, SOS, or equivalent). After the wok is
    cleaned, put it back on the burner for a few minutes to heat it up and evaporate any moisture. Then, add a little oil to it and rub it around
    with a paper towel to keep it shiny and from rusting with any moisture
    it may attract in between uses.

    Another thing, when you are done cooking in the wok, put some water in
    it to soak while you eat. Cleanup takes just a few work with a nylon
    scrubbing pad and some hot water.

    Taking good care of your cookware only requires a few minutes of time
    and makes it much easier to use and cleanup. Food doesn't stick to a
    well seasoned wok. If it starts to stick, scrub it well with something
    like an S.O.S. pad and re-season.

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    5.2 Cast Iron (thank you to Tom Rankin)

    Summary:
    Make sure your cast iron is clean down to bare metal.
    Coat with fat, heat, repeat.
    Look after by never washing in soapy water and scrubbing as little as
    possible.

    Details:

    Initial cleaning: get off all the packaging oil, burnt food or
    whatever the pan has on it. Some suggestions for achieving this are
    - Wash in hot soapy water, dry thoroughly
    - Boil undiluted white vinegar in the pan for while
    - Commercial beadblasting (not sandblasting)
    - Steel wool
    - Hot embers
    - Kosher salt baked in the pan at 500°F (260°C) for 4 hours and
    scraped out again
    - Put in self-cleaning oven and turn on clean cycle

    Fats to use: a solid vegetable fat, or lard. Oil is not as suitable.

    Seasoning process: Wipe pot inside and out with melted fat. Do the lid
    too (if it's cast iron). At this point, authorities seem to diverge.
    The common theme is "get it hot and keep it hot for considerably more
    than an hour" (optionally followed by "re-coat it with fat during the process"). Two hours at 350°F (175°C), re-wiping with fat every
    30 minutes, seems sensible.

    When this has been done, the seasoning process has been begun but not
    yet completed. The first few times the pan is used, it should be for
    fairly fatty foods. Fried eggs rather than tomato soup, for example.

    Each time the pan is used, rinse with hot water and scrub if necessary.
    Don't scour or use detergent - otherwise you will need to re-season.
    Some people coat their cast iron very lightly with oil after washing,
    then wipe out after an initial heating next time they use it.

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    6 History and Lore of rec.food.cooking

    ----------------------------------------
    6.1 Origins of rec.food.cooking (thank you to Max Hauser)

    rec.food.cooking began as net.cooks, launched by friend and fellow food
    fanatic Steve Upstill in Berkeley in January 1982 with a posting on
    pragmatic pasta sauces, something Steve was then often cooking,
    including at my place. We were all cranking out a lot of fresh ribbon
    pasta with Atlas 150 (150mm) roller/cutter machines and we needed things
    to do with it. net.cooks became rec.food.cooking in the general Great
    Renaming (late 1986). Current Google archives show Steve's original
    29-Jan-82 posting, and also his 31-Jan-82 net.general announcement of net.cooks, "All about food, cooking, cookbooks, recipes and other
    alimentary effluvia." That was the "charter" of this newsgroup.
    (Discussions by the way using the specific language of newsgroup
    "charter" on net.cooks or rec.food.cooking don't appear until five years
    later in 1987, an exchange between Terry Sterkel, me, and Spafford,
    referring anyway to a different newsgroup.) Posted statistics also
    showed that net.cooks became popular immediately, one of the most
    popular newsgroups at the time. After the 1986 renaming, a Gene
    Spafford active-newsgroups list included rec.food.cooking with summary
    "Food, cooking, cookbooks, and recipes." Steve Upstill continued to
    contribute occasionally, and also to work on recipe-formatting software.
    I recall him commercializing a typesetting macro package ("-MU"), and
    recipe software for Mac platforms.

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    6.2 Some Higlights in the Life of rec.food.cooking

    - There have been quite a few rec.food.cooking cook-ins all over the
    USA, as well as a small one in Germany. The first one was hosted by
    Anne Bourget in Sacramento, California, in 1994.

    - Early in 1997, a rec.food.cooking T-shirt was produced, with the
    proceeds donated to charity. Some 220 T-shirts were sold to rfc'ers.

    - In 2002-3, a rec.food.cooking Cook.Book was published, also with the proceeds donated to charity (City Harvest, a NYC affiliate of Second
    Harvest) to help the victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. There were
    two printings, one late in 2002, the other early in 2003, and a total of
    about 740 copies were sold, also to rfc'ers.


    ----------------------------------------
    6.3 What's all this about xxxx? (much of this section was copied
    verbatim from the rec.food.cooking MiniFAQ that the
    invaluable Amy Gale used to post - thank you, Amy)

    This section tries to cover a few of the most commonly confusing
    topics that may come up on the newsgroup.

    aluminium : has not been linked to Alzheimer's Disease in a
    reproducible experiment.

    Elbonia : a mythical country (probably in Eastern Europe). Comes
    from Scott Adams' "Dilbert", syndicated in newspapers and
    available at http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/

    Ingrid : Anne Bourget's Volvo, used for flattening chicken breasts.
    Now deceased, but the memory lives on.

    j/nghlm : a joke ingredient. Spelling varies.

    WWT : (Weekend With Tammy). Once upon a time, a long-time rfc
    poster named Tammy spent a weekend with another long-time
    poster who posted a long article describing their mainly
    food-related adventures. Some people took exception to
    that posting, complaining about the lack of recipes (which
    were posted separately). Many people now use the WWT
    acronym in the subject header to indicate a posting of
    similar nature.

    ObFood : 'obligatory food reference'. An old rfc tradition.
    Many people hold that, whenever one happens to post off
    topic, one is supposed to add something that has to do
    with food, ideally something that is actually interesting
    and/or useful.

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    7 This has come up once too often....

    This list is a (futile?) attempt to keep certain well-worn subjects from
    coming up yet again. Further suggestions always welcome.

    The $250 cookie recipe

    This recipe comes up often, usually here but also on other newsgroups
    (where it is even less appropriate). The story goes that a woman had a
    cookie at [usually Mrs. Field's or Neiman Marcus' cafe], and liked it
    so much she wanted the recipe. The clerk said "It will cost you
    two-fifty"; the woman thought that meant $2.50 and was shocked to find
    it meant $250. She is now spreading it to get revenge, since it was not returnable.

    There are a number of holes in the story, and no one has ever brought
    forth any evidence that it really happened. (If you want to argue that
    you know someone who knows someone who this really happened to, take it
    over to alt.folklore.urban, where they will proceed to have you for
    breakfast if you have no evidence.) More importantly, it has been
    posted more than enough times by now. Some people have tried the recipe
    and pronounced it good, but it ain't Mrs. Field's. If you would like
    the recipe, ask for someone to mail it to you.

    It has been pointed out to me that the recipe is in the standard source distribution for GNU Emacs and XEmacs. If your site has that source,
    look in the "etc" directory for a file named COOKIES.

    Most importantly, please DO NOT post it any more. There is also a Mrs
    Fields cookbook, published by Time-Life. This has recipes, but not the
    exact ones for the ones sold in the stores, as those recipes are not
    well suited to home baking.

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    8 Recipe archives and other cooking/food sites

    ----------------------------------------
    8.1 Recipe archives

    There are hundreds, if not thousands, of recipe archives on the net.
    Here are some of the more popular and larger ones.

    * http://recipes.alastra.com/
    The official rec.food.recipes archive, maintained by Stephanie da
    Silva.

    * http://www.lysator.liu.se/etexts/recept/us/main.html
    Usenet Cookbook, a collection of old alt.gourmand recipes.

    * http://www.recipesource.com/
    SOAR - Searchable Online Archive of Recipes.

    * http://www.ichef.com/ichef-recipes/

    * http://www.cs.cmu.edu/%7Emjw/recipes/
    Amy Gale's recipe archives.

    * http://recipes.wenzel.net/
    RecipeLand.com's archive with 25000+ recipes.

    * http://www.astray.com/recipes/
    A searchable database of 76,000+ recipes, maintained by Leon
    Brocard.

    * http://www.recipecenter.com
    100,000+ recipes.

    * http://allrecipes.com/
    A large, searchable recipe archive.

    * http://home.uni-one.nl/the-cooking-page/
    The Cooking Page. Numerous recipe links classified by language
    (English, French, German, Dutch), by food course, and by cuisine.

    * http://www.oingo.com/topic/14/14336.html
    A well designed and functional searchable database of thousands of
    food and recipe links.

    * http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/topics/cook.htm
    Ancient and medieval recipes, and cooking and food links.

    * http://www.ajlc.waterloo.on.ca/Recipes/index.html
    A very large, meticulous index of recipes, with a search engine.

    * http://www.cdkitchen.com/
    A comprehensive cooking Web site with over 200,000 recipes,
    including a rec.food.recipes archive. By Valerie Whitmore.

    * http://www.lingualearn.co.uk/food.htm
    A collection of links to recipes, etc. of varius countries.

    * "http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm
    A Boke of Gode Cookery. A collection of Medieval recipes by James
    Matterer.

    * Copycat recipes or links to them are often requested on rfc. Two of
    the better known sites with such recipes are
    http://www.copykat.com
    and
    http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/.

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    8.2 Other cooking/food sites

    * http://www.epicurious.com/
    A general food site with a dictionary (THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION,
    by Sharon Tyler Herbst), recipes from well-known food magazines,
    etc.

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/
    Mimi's Cyber Kitchen, a general food site maintained by Mimi
    Hiller.

    * http://www-ang.kfunigraz.ac.at/~katzer/engl/index.html
    Gernot Katzer's Spice Pages, a Web spice encyclopedia, by Gernot
    Katzer.

    * http://www.foodsubs.com/ (and numerous mirrors)
    The Cook's Thesaurus. By Lori Alden. Suggests substitutions for
    thousands of cooking ingredients.

    * http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Island/3012/glossary.htm
    An A-Z glossary of Indian spices and cooking terms.

    * http://www.EuropeanCuisines.com/
    and
    http://www.owlsprings.com/the_balti_page/
    "European Cuisines" and "The Balti Page".
    By Peter Morwood & Diane Duane.

    * http://www.virtualquincy.com/quincy/recreation/recipes.html
    Directory listing of over 375 recipe and cooking websites.

    * http://www.reluctantgourmet.com/
    Cooking guide for beginner cooks.

    * http://labsoftware.com/cookbook/default.htm
    "Cooking for Graduate Students and and other beginning Kitchen
    Dwellers".

    * http://vsack.homepage.t-online.de/afa_faq.html
    Links to sites related to Asian food and cooking, as posted
    regularly to alt.food.asian by blacksalt.

    * http://www.whatscookingamerica.net/Glossary/GlossaryIndex2.htm
    Linda's Culinary Dictionary. By Linda Stradley. A listing and
    history of cooking, food, and beverage terms.

    * http://www.todine.net/dictionary.html
    Italian-English-French-Spanish-German Gastronomical Dictionary.

    * http://www.xs4all.nl/~margjos/
    English-French-German-Danish-Dutch food dictionary. By Jos and
    Marg Sparreboom.

    * http://www.theepicentre.com/glossary.html
    A glossary of spices, etc.

    * http://www.soupsong.com/ifoodta.html
    "Food tales, or everything you always wanted to know about the
    migration and lore of food."

    * http://www.breadworld.com/canada/tips/glossary/glossary.asp
    A glossary of baking terms maintained by Fleischmann's Yeast, a
    commercial entity.

    * http://www.mhr-viandes.com/en/docu/docu/d9000003.htm
    Multilingual meat and poultry glossaries.

    * http://www.aboutproduce.com/
    Recipes, nutrition info, selection tips for vegetables, fruits, nuts
    and herbs. By the Produce Marketing Association.

    * http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/rfe0.html
    Comprehensive, illustrated fish encylopaedia. An FDA resource.

    * http://navigator.tufts.edu/
    Tufts University Nutrition Navigator. Reviews and rating of
    nutrition information Web sites.

    * http://food.oregonstate.edu/glossary/all.html
    Science of Foods Glossary.

    * http://www.cahe.nmsu.edu/pubs/_e/e-131.pdf
    In A Pinch - Ingredient Substitution, a PDF file.

    * http://www.thousandeggs.com/cookbooks.html
    Links to old culinary & brewing documents online, by Cindy Renfrow.

    * http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/egg/fdnews.html
    A humongous list of culinary newsletters, magazines and journals.

    * http://www.azcentral.com/home/cooking101/
    Cooking 101.

    * http://www.gortons.com/cookbook/
    Gorton's fisherman's cookbook and fish glossary.

    * http://www.pipeline.com/~rosskat/
    A wealth of culinary information, resources, recipes, etc. on a
    rather disorganised site.

    * http://members.aol.com/Jwmike101/home.html
    Culinary resource desk. Lots of useful links.

    * http://www.psgrill.net/Encyclopedia/ENCYCLOPEDIA.html
    Large, useful food dictionary (but with some annoying
    mistranslations and misspellings).

    * http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/glossary/
    BBC's food glossary.

    * http://www.calacademy.org/research/anthropology/utensil/
    The History of Eating Utensils.

    * http://www.astaspice.org/history/history_main.htm
    ASTA's World of Spice - The history of the Spice Trade. By The
    American Spice Trade Association.

    * http://www.usmef.org/TradeLibrary/InternationalMeatManual.asp
    International Meat Manual. Corn-fed beef, grass-fed beef, veal,
    pork and lamb. In English, Japanese, Korean, Mandarin Chinese and
    Spanish. By the U.S. Meat Export Federation.

    * http://www.carnegielibrary.org/subject/food/
    Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh -- comprehensive Food and Cooking
    resource guide

    * http://www.bakingbusiness.com/refbook.asp
    The Encyclopedia of Baking offers reference, formulations and
    troubleshooting for common baking ingredients.

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    9 Food newsgroups and mailing lists

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    9.1 rec.food.cooking

    a.k.a. us: A group for the discussion of cooking in general. Recipes
    and requests for recipes are welcome here, as are discussions of cooking techniques, equipment, etc. In short, if it has to do with cooking, it probably belongs here - though that doesn't mean it doesn't belong
    somewhere else, too!

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    9.2 rec.food.recipes

    A moderated newsgroup for recipes and requests for recipes. Each week a
    FAQ explains how to post recipes or requests. The lead moderator is
    Tracy Carman, <recipes@swcp.com>.
    The rfr moderators' software automatically sets followups to rfc.
    The reason is, no discussion is allowed in rfr - only recipes or
    requests for same. Since some people might wish to publicly discuss
    posted recipes notwithstanding, followups to rfc serve a useful purpose.

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    9.3 rec.food.drink, rec.food.drink.beer, rec.food.drink.tea,
    rec.food.restaurants, rec.food.drink.coffee
    rec.food.sourdough, rec.food.historic

    Pretty self-explanatory.

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    9.4 rec.food.veg

    About vegetarianism. It also has its own FAQ list, with questions about
    the myths and truths of the vegetarian diet, information on where to get "cruelty-free" products, etc.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.5 rec.food.veg.cooking

    A moderated version of rec.food.veg

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    9.6 rec.food.preserving

    "Rec.food.preserving is a newsgroup devoted to the discussion of
    recipes, equipment, and techniques of food preservation. Current food preservation techniques that rightly should be discussed in this forum
    include canning, freezing, dehydration, pickling, smoking, salting,
    distilling, and potting. Foodstuffs are defined as produce (both fruits
    and vegetables), meat, fish, dairy products, culinary and medicinal
    herbs. Discussions should be limited to home-grown or home-preserved
    foods." (From the rec.food.preserving FAQ)

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    9.7 also...

    rec.crafts.winemaking
    rec.crafts.brewing
    alt.food
    alt.food.wine
    alt.coffee
    alt.food.asian
    alt.food.fat-free
    alt.food.low-fat
    alt.bacchus
    alt.food.mcdonalds (an oxymoron if ever I heard one)
    alt.food.coca-cola (mmmm....coca cola...)
    alt.food.chocolate
    alt.food.taco.bell
    alt.creative-cook
    alt.creative-cooking
    alt.cooking-chat
    alt.food.barbecue
    alt.2eggs.sausage.beans.tomatoes.2toast.largetea.cheerslove alt.food.mexican-cooking
    alt.food.sushi

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    9.8 mailing lists

    A very popular mailing list is

    Chile-Heads

    Purpose: The Chile-Heads list is intended to provide a forum
    for discussion of matters relating to chile peppers; including,
    but not limited to:

    o Growing peppers
    o Seed and plant sources
    o Exchanges of seeds/plants/pods/etc.
    o Exotic varieties
    o Storing and preserving chiles
    o Recipes using chiles
    o Other related posts

    http://globalgarden.com/Chile-Heads/list_info.phtml

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List
    All messages posted to the list are emailed immediately to
    everyone on the list.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List
    The digest will save all email messages posted to the list for
    the day and send in one email message.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from
    ftp.globalgarden.com, in pub/Chile-Heads/digest/vNN.nMMM
    (where "NN" is the volume number, and "MMM" is the issue number).

    How to Unsubscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List or Digest
    Mailing List
    To unsubscribe send email to Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    or Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    (depending on which version of the list you are subscribed to)
    with the body of the message containing:
    UNSUBSCRIBE


    Another popular mailing list is

    Bread-Bakers

    The bread-bakers digest and daily-bread mailing lists are for the
    free exchange of recipes and information related to any and all
    aspects of bread baking, by hand or by machine.
    http://www.bread-bakers.com/

    To join the bread-bakers mailing list, send mail to
    bread-bakers-request@lists.bread-bakers.com In the body of the
    message, place, in lower case with no indentation, the single word:

    subscribe

    This will subscribe you at the address that your message is sent
    from. This is almost certainly your correct address. Bestserv will
    send you a message asking you to confirm your subscription request.
    You must reply to the message changing the word REJECT in the
    subject to ACCEPT. You will get a confirmation when your
    subscription has been accepted. If you have problems subscribing,
    please write to us at bread-bakers-owner@lists.bread-bakers.com
    and we will assist you.

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    10 Other culinary FAQs (thank you to Damsel in dis Dress)

    ----------------------------------------
    10.1 Foods

    * ftp://ftp.michvhf.com/pub/rec.food.baking/FAQ
    (rec.food.baking FAQ, by B. Keith Ryder)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/sourdough/faq/preamble.html
    (rec.food.sourdough FAQ, maintained by Darrell Greenwood)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/index2.html#faq
    (Meat FAQs: Foie gras, Pig processing, Venison processing, Elk and
    caribou, Wagyu and Kobe beef; by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.macscouter.com/Cooking/DutchOven.html
    (Dutch oven cooking)

    * http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/index.html
    (BBQ FAQ, by William W. Wight)

    * http://www.bbqguide.com/meat_smoking_and_curing_faq.htm
    (Meat smoking and curing FAQ, maintained by Richard Thead)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/preserving/part1/
    (rec.food.preserving FAQ, maintained by Eric Decker)

    * http://edible-complex.home.att.net/faq-spices.html
    (Spices FAQ, by Daniel M. Germán)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/culinary-herbs/part1/
    (Culinary herbs FAQ, maintained by Henriette Kress)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/truffles.html
    (Truffles (fungi) FAQ, by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/chocolate/faq/
    (Chocolate FAQ, by Monee Kidd)

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    10.2 Beverages

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/caffeine-faq/
    (Coffee and caffeine FAQ, by Alex Lopez-Ortiz)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/tea/faq/
    (Tea FAQ, by Christopher Roberson)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/wine-faq/part1/
    (Wine FAQ, by Bradford S. Brown)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/crafts/winemaking-faq/
    (Winemaking FAQ, by Don Buchan)

    * http://www.beerinfo.com/rfdb/faq.html
    (Beer FAQ, by John A. Lock)

    * http://hbd.org/brewery/library/absfaq.html
    (Absinthe FAQ, by Matthew Baggott)

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    10.3 Religion, lifestyle and special diets

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/rfcj/kosherfaq.htm
    (Kosher food, by Pat Gold, Beth Greenfeld, and Ruth Heiges)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/vegetarian/faq/
    (rec.food.veg (vegetarian) FAQ, by Michael Traub)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/fatfree/faq/
    (Fat-free FAQ, by Michelle Dick)

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    10.4 Miscellaneous

    * http://FAQs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/cooking/common-topics
    (Commonly discussed topics, by Stephanie da Silva)

    * http://www.thepurplehouse.net/wedding/cookware.txt
    (Cookware FAQ, by Oliver Sharp)

    * http://www.sff.net/people/pff/sharp.txt
    (Knife FAQs: Plain vs. serrated edges, Knife sharpening,
    Steel types, by Joe Talmadge)

    * http://www.survival-center.com/foodfaq/ff1-toc.htm
    (Food storage FAQ, by Alan T. Hagan)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sci/food-science-faq/part1/
    (Food science FAQ, by Rachel Zemser, J. Ralph Blanchfield, and Paul
    King)

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    10.5 Humour

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/kool-aid-faq/
    (Kool-Aid FAQ, by Paul and Bess Dawson-Schmidt)

    * http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/bofh-food-faq
    (bofh.food FAQ, by J.D. Falk)

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    11 "Unofficial" rec.food.cooking Web site

    Damsel in dis Dress used to maintain what many people regarded as the 'unofficial' rec.food.cooking site, with sections devoted to rfc chat,
    rfc 'signature' dishes, rfc cook-in reports, and rfc birthdays.
    Chatty Cathy is currently in charge of the site, which contains all of
    the above and more, particularly a link to the rfc map set up by
    Christine Dabney. The site is located at
    http://www.recfoodcooking.org

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    12 Sources

    Lots of wonderful people helped compile this list - again, much
    acknowledgement is due to Cindy Kandolf for putting this entire thing
    together and to Amy Gale for maintaining it and adding to it for many
    years.

    ----------------------------------------
    12.1 Contributors

    The other wonderful people are :

    carolynd(at)sail.labs.tek.com
    ekman(at)netc.om.com
    arielle(at)aronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
    rs7x+(at)andrew.cmu.edu
    jane(at)cse.lbl.gov
    jonog(at)g2syd.genasys.com.au anita(at)devvax.mincom.oz.au sbookey(at)ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey) ccd(at)ccdadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au pmmuggli(at)uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu chu(at)acsu.buffalo.edu cdfk(at)otter.hpl.hp.com dudek(at)ksr.com aem(at)symbiosis.ahp.com wald(at)theory.lcs.mit.edu harvey(at)indyvax.iupui.edu ed(at)pa.dec.com ndkj(at)vax5.cit.cornell.edu ekman(at)netc.om.com
    otten(at)icase.edu jane(at)cse.lbl.gov loosemore-sandra(at)cs.yale.edu mworley(at)mathcs.emory.edu kts(at)michael.udev.cdc.com cc(at)dcs.edinburgh.ac.uk leander(at)ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
    cduff(at)sugar.NeoSoft.COM
    lvirden(at)cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
    hammond(at)niwot.scd.ucar.EDU (Steve Hammond)
    dfw(at)thumper.bellcore.com (Doris Woods)
    gibbsm(at)ll.mit.edu (MargAret D Gibbs)
    rickert(at)cco.caltech.edu (Keith Warren Rickert)
    Simon Kershaw Simon.Kershaw(at)Smallworld.co.uk
    Joel Offenberg offenbrg(at)trifle.gsfc.nasa.gov
    grant(at)oj.rsmas.miami.edu (Grant Basham)
    lmak(at)cbnewsf.cb.att.com (louisa.l.mak)
    twain(at)carson.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin) hz225wu(at)unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Micaela Pantke)
    sfisher(at)megatest.com (Scott Fisher)
    byrne(at)rcf.rsmas.miami.edu (Charlie Byrne)
    jmk5u(at)Virginia.EDU
    bae(at)gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Beverly Erlebacher) rlwilliams(at)gallua.gallaudet.edu (Skip) hwalden(at)science-store.chem.wayne.edu (Heather Walden)
    mcenter(at)amoco.com (Mike Center, PSC)
    kevin(at)eye.com (Kevin Stokker)
    steven(at)surya.cs.ucla.edu (Steven Berson)
    eric.decker(at)canrem.com (Eric Decker)
    peteo(at)ford.wpd.sgi.com (Peter Orelup)
    sk10003(at)cus.cam.ac.uk (Scott Kleinman)
    David Casseres casseres(at)apple.com Ted.Taylor(at)p4214.f104.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Taylor)
    george(at)dfds.ml.com (George Minkovsky)
    Alison(at)moose.demon.co.uk (Alison Scott)
    jae(at)world.std.com (Jon A Edelston)
    conrad(at)qpsx.oz.au (Conrad Drake)
    nadel(at)attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel)
    patricia(at)cs.utexas.edu (Patricia M. Burson)
    betsey(at)columbia.edu (Elizabeth Fike)
    leah(at)smith.chi.il.us (Leah Smith)
    steve(at)unipalm.co.uk (Steve Ladlow)
    STEVE SKHNY(at)CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
    "Sudheer Apte" apte(at)loki.hks.com
    Diane Ferrell, Leslie Basel
    rankin(at)scubed.com (Tom Rankin)
    vev(at)msen.com (Vince Vielhaber)
    HUYQ78A(at)prodigy.com (MS PHYLLIS T SPAETH)
    lenf(at)netc.om.com (Len Freedman)
    apforz(at)pfood.win.net (Andy Pforzheimer)
    wnukoski(at)crypt.erie.ge.com (George Wnukoski)
    Dan_Masi(at)Warren.mentorg.com
    robinc(at)oanet.com (Robin Cowdrey)
    merlin(at)ion.com.au (Merlin Zener)
    "Frank Fileccia" surplus(at)telusplanet.net
    "Rodger Whitlock" totototo(at)mail.pacificcoast.net
    Damsel in dis Dress damsel.in.dis.dress(at)gmail.com
    Shankar Bhattacharyya sbhattac(at)idt.net
    Sophie Laplante laplante(at)lri.fr
    Andrew Nicholson andrewn(at)lesto.com
    Ed Keith edkeith(at)home.com
    Read rweaver(at)igc.org
    T. Terrell Banks terry(at)banks-usa.com
    William Chuang wchuang(at)MIT.EDU
    Scott Jordan sjordan(at)ntrnet.net
    Terry Simpson terry(at)connected-systems.com
    Bill Boylan bill.boylan(at)cox.net
    Max Hauser maxREMOVE(at)THIStdl.com
    Vilco a(at)b.invalid
    Lyndon Watson teile(at)clear.net.nz

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    12.2 Bibliography

    This is a new section composed of the acknowledgements previously
    sprinkled through the text. More information on these books will be
    welcomed.

    1) "Trolldom in the Kitchen"
    Pat Bjaaland and Melody Favish

    2) "Larousse Gastronomique"
    ISBN 0 7493 0316 6

    Larousse Gastronomique
    The New American Edition of the World's Greatest Culinary
    Encyclopedia
    By Jenifer Harvey Lang
    Hardcover, 1193 pages
    ISBN: 0517570327
    List Price: $60.00
    Random House
    Publication Date: 10/01/88

    3) "Still Life with Menu" (K)
    Mollie Katzen
    Revised trade paperback 1995
    Still Life with Menu Cookbook
    Trade Paperback, 256 Pages, Revised, Ten Speed, March 1995
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk)
    Author: Katzen, Mollie
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk.)

    Still Life With Menu Cookbook by Katzen, Mollie
    fifty new meatless menus with original art
    Berkeley, California, Ten Speed Press, 1988
    ISBN 0898152569

    4) "Cookery in Colour" (P)
    Marguerite Patten

    5) "The Rotation Diet" (RD)

    6) "My Fun-to-cook-book" (S)
    Ursula Sedgwick

    7) "The New Food Lover's Companion"

    8) "Michel Guérard's Cuisine Minceur"
    Michel Guérard

    9) "Mastering the Art of French Cooking"
    Julia Child

    10) "The Oxford Companion to Food"
    Alan Davidson

    11) "Julia and Jacques Cooking At Home"
    by Julia Child and Jacques Pépin

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    Clean the wok with hot water and some form of scrubbing tool. The
    bamboo things they sometimes include actually work or one can use a
    nylon scrubbing pad (no brillo, SOS, or equivalent). After the wok is
    cleaned, put it back on the burner for a few minutes to heat it up and evaporate any moisture. Then, add a little oil to it and rub it around
    with a paper towel to keep it shiny and from rusting with any moisture
    it may attract in between uses.

    Another thing, when you are done cooking in the wok, put some water in
    it to soak while you eat. Cleanup takes just a few work with a nylon
    scrubbing pad and some hot water.

    Taking good care of your cookware only requires a few minutes of time
    and makes it much easier to use and cleanup. Food doesn't stick to a
    well seasoned wok. If it starts to stick, scrub it well with something
    like an S.O.S. pad and re-season.

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    5.2 Cast Iron (thank you to Tom Rankin)

    Summary:
    Make sure your cast iron is clean down to bare metal.
    Coat with fat, heat, repeat.
    Look after by never washing in soapy water and scrubbing as little as
    possible.

    Details:

    Initial cleaning: get off all the packaging oil, burnt food or
    whatever the pan has on it. Some suggestions for achieving this are
    - Wash in hot soapy water, dry thoroughly
    - Boil undiluted white vinegar in the pan for while
    - Commercial beadblasting (not sandblasting)
    - Steel wool
    - Hot embers
    - Kosher salt baked in the pan at 500°F (260°C) for 4 hours and
    scraped out again
    - Put in self-cleaning oven and turn on clean cycle

    Fats to use: a solid vegetable fat, or lard. Oil is not as suitable.

    Seasoning process: Wipe pot inside and out with melted fat. Do the lid
    too (if it's cast iron). At this point, authorities seem to diverge.
    The common theme is "get it hot and keep it hot for considerably more
    than an hour" (optionally followed by "re-coat it with fat during the process"). Two hours at 350°F (175°C), re-wiping with fat every
    30 minutes, seems sensible.

    When this has been done, the seasoning process has been begun but not
    yet completed. The first few times the pan is used, it should be for
    fairly fatty foods. Fried eggs rather than tomato soup, for example.

    Each time the pan is used, rinse with hot water and scrub if necessary.
    Don't scour or use detergent - otherwise you will need to re-season.
    Some people coat their cast iron very lightly with oil after washing,
    then wipe out after an initial heating next time they use it.

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    6 History and Lore of rec.food.cooking

    ----------------------------------------
    6.1 Origins of rec.food.cooking (thank you to Max Hauser)

    rec.food.cooking began as net.cooks, launched by friend and fellow food
    fanatic Steve Upstill in Berkeley in January 1982 with a posting on
    pragmatic pasta sauces, something Steve was then often cooking,
    including at my place. We were all cranking out a lot of fresh ribbon
    pasta with Atlas 150 (150mm) roller/cutter machines and we needed things
    to do with it. net.cooks became rec.food.cooking in the general Great
    Renaming (late 1986). Current Google archives show Steve's original
    29-Jan-82 posting, and also his 31-Jan-82 net.general announcement of net.cooks, "All about food, cooking, cookbooks, recipes and other
    alimentary effluvia." That was the "charter" of this newsgroup.
    (Discussions by the way using the specific language of newsgroup
    "charter" on net.cooks or rec.food.cooking don't appear until five years
    later in 1987, an exchange between Terry Sterkel, me, and Spafford,
    referring anyway to a different newsgroup.) Posted statistics also
    showed that net.cooks became popular immediately, one of the most
    popular newsgroups at the time. After the 1986 renaming, a Gene
    Spafford active-newsgroups list included rec.food.cooking with summary
    "Food, cooking, cookbooks, and recipes." Steve Upstill continued to
    contribute occasionally, and also to work on recipe-formatting software.
    I recall him commercializing a typesetting macro package ("-MU"), and
    recipe software for Mac platforms.

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    6.2 Some Higlights in the Life of rec.food.cooking

    - There have been quite a few rec.food.cooking cook-ins all over the
    USA, as well as a small one in Germany. The first one was hosted by
    Anne Bourget in Sacramento, California, in 1994.

    - Early in 1997, a rec.food.cooking T-shirt was produced, with the
    proceeds donated to charity. Some 220 T-shirts were sold to rfc'ers.

    - In 2002-3, a rec.food.cooking Cook.Book was published, also with the proceeds donated to charity (City Harvest, a NYC affiliate of Second
    Harvest) to help the victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. There were
    two printings, one late in 2002, the other early in 2003, and a total of
    about 740 copies were sold, also to rfc'ers.


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    6.3 What's all this about xxxx? (much of this section was copied
    verbatim from the rec.food.cooking MiniFAQ that the
    invaluable Amy Gale used to post - thank you, Amy)

    This section tries to cover a few of the most commonly confusing
    topics that may come up on the newsgroup.

    aluminium : has not been linked to Alzheimer's Disease in a
    reproducible experiment.

    Elbonia : a mythical country (probably in Eastern Europe). Comes
    from Scott Adams' "Dilbert", syndicated in newspapers and
    available at http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/

    Ingrid : Anne Bourget's Volvo, used for flattening chicken breasts.
    Now deceased, but the memory lives on.

    j/nghlm : a joke ingredient. Spelling varies.

    WWT : (Weekend With Tammy). Once upon a time, a long-time rfc
    poster named Tammy spent a weekend with another long-time
    poster who posted a long article describing their mainly
    food-related adventures. Some people took exception to
    that posting, complaining about the lack of recipes (which
    were posted separately). Many people now use the WWT
    acronym in the subject header to indicate a posting of
    similar nature.

    ObFood : 'obligatory food reference'. An old rfc tradition.
    Many people hold that, whenever one happens to post off
    topic, one is supposed to add something that has to do
    with food, ideally something that is actually interesting
    and/or useful.

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    7 This has come up once too often....

    This list is a (futile?) attempt to keep certain well-worn subjects from
    coming up yet again. Further suggestions always welcome.

    The $250 cookie recipe

    This recipe comes up often, usually here but also on other newsgroups
    (where it is even less appropriate). The story goes that a woman had a
    cookie at [usually Mrs. Field's or Neiman Marcus' cafe], and liked it
    so much she wanted the recipe. The clerk said "It will cost you
    two-fifty"; the woman thought that meant $2.50 and was shocked to find
    it meant $250. She is now spreading it to get revenge, since it was not returnable.

    There are a number of holes in the story, and no one has ever brought
    forth any evidence that it really happened. (If you want to argue that
    you know someone who knows someone who this really happened to, take it
    over to alt.folklore.urban, where they will proceed to have you for
    breakfast if you have no evidence.) More importantly, it has been
    posted more than enough times by now. Some people have tried the recipe
    and pronounced it good, but it ain't Mrs. Field's. If you would like
    the recipe, ask for someone to mail it to you.

    It has been pointed out to me that the recipe is in the standard source distribution for GNU Emacs and XEmacs. If your site has that source,
    look in the "etc" directory for a file named COOKIES.

    Most importantly, please DO NOT post it any more. There is also a Mrs
    Fields cookbook, published by Time-Life. This has recipes, but not the
    exact ones for the ones sold in the stores, as those recipes are not
    well suited to home baking.

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    8 Recipe archives and other cooking/food sites

    ----------------------------------------
    8.1 Recipe archives

    There are hundreds, if not thousands, of recipe archives on the net.
    Here are some of the more popular and larger ones.

    * http://recipes.alastra.com/
    The official rec.food.recipes archive, maintained by Stephanie da
    Silva.

    * http://www.lysator.liu.se/etexts/recept/us/main.html
    Usenet Cookbook, a collection of old alt.gourmand recipes.

    * http://www.recipesource.com/
    SOAR - Searchable Online Archive of Recipes.

    * http://www.ichef.com/ichef-recipes/

    * http://www.cs.cmu.edu/%7Emjw/recipes/
    Amy Gale's recipe archives.

    * http://recipes.wenzel.net/
    RecipeLand.com's archive with 25000+ recipes.

    * http://www.astray.com/recipes/
    A searchable database of 76,000+ recipes, maintained by Leon
    Brocard.

    * http://www.recipecenter.com
    100,000+ recipes.

    * http://allrecipes.com/
    A large, searchable recipe archive.

    * http://home.uni-one.nl/the-cooking-page/
    The Cooking Page. Numerous recipe links classified by language
    (English, French, German, Dutch), by food course, and by cuisine.

    * http://www.oingo.com/topic/14/14336.html
    A well designed and functional searchable database of thousands of
    food and recipe links.

    * http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/topics/cook.htm
    Ancient and medieval recipes, and cooking and food links.

    * http://www.ajlc.waterloo.on.ca/Recipes/index.html
    A very large, meticulous index of recipes, with a search engine.

    * http://www.cdkitchen.com/
    A comprehensive cooking Web site with over 200,000 recipes,
    including a rec.food.recipes archive. By Valerie Whitmore.

    * http://www.lingualearn.co.uk/food.htm
    A collection of links to recipes, etc. of varius countries.

    * "http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm
    A Boke of Gode Cookery. A collection of Medieval recipes by James
    Matterer.

    * Copycat recipes or links to them are often requested on rfc. Two of
    the better known sites with such recipes are
    http://www.copykat.com
    and
    http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/.

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    8.2 Other cooking/food sites

    * http://www.epicurious.com/
    A general food site with a dictionary (THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION,
    by Sharon Tyler Herbst), recipes from well-known food magazines,
    etc.

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/
    Mimi's Cyber Kitchen, a general food site maintained by Mimi
    Hiller.

    * http://www-ang.kfunigraz.ac.at/~katzer/engl/index.html
    Gernot Katzer's Spice Pages, a Web spice encyclopedia, by Gernot
    Katzer.

    * http://www.foodsubs.com/ (and numerous mirrors)
    The Cook's Thesaurus. By Lori Alden. Suggests substitutions for
    thousands of cooking ingredients.

    * http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Island/3012/glossary.htm
    An A-Z glossary of Indian spices and cooking terms.

    * http://www.EuropeanCuisines.com/
    and
    http://www.owlsprings.com/the_balti_page/
    "European Cuisines" and "The Balti Page".
    By Peter Morwood & Diane Duane.

    * http://www.virtualquincy.com/quincy/recreation/recipes.html
    Directory listing of over 375 recipe and cooking websites.

    * http://www.reluctantgourmet.com/
    Cooking guide for beginner cooks.

    * http://labsoftware.com/cookbook/default.htm
    "Cooking for Graduate Students and and other beginning Kitchen
    Dwellers".

    * http://vsack.homepage.t-online.de/afa_faq.html
    Links to sites related to Asian food and cooking, as posted
    regularly to alt.food.asian by blacksalt.

    * http://www.whatscookingamerica.net/Glossary/GlossaryIndex2.htm
    Linda's Culinary Dictionary. By Linda Stradley. A listing and
    history of cooking, food, and beverage terms.

    * http://www.todine.net/dictionary.html
    Italian-English-French-Spanish-German Gastronomical Dictionary.

    * http://www.xs4all.nl/~margjos/
    English-French-German-Danish-Dutch food dictionary. By Jos and
    Marg Sparreboom.

    * http://www.theepicentre.com/glossary.html
    A glossary of spices, etc.

    * http://www.soupsong.com/ifoodta.html
    "Food tales, or everything you always wanted to know about the
    migration and lore of food."

    * http://www.breadworld.com/canada/tips/glossary/glossary.asp
    A glossary of baking terms maintained by Fleischmann's Yeast, a
    commercial entity.

    * http://www.mhr-viandes.com/en/docu/docu/d9000003.htm
    Multilingual meat and poultry glossaries.

    * http://www.aboutproduce.com/
    Recipes, nutrition info, selection tips for vegetables, fruits, nuts
    and herbs. By the Produce Marketing Association.

    * http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/rfe0.html
    Comprehensive, illustrated fish encylopaedia. An FDA resource.

    * http://navigator.tufts.edu/
    Tufts University Nutrition Navigator. Reviews and rating of
    nutrition information Web sites.

    * http://food.oregonstate.edu/glossary/all.html
    Science of Foods Glossary.

    * http://www.cahe.nmsu.edu/pubs/_e/e-131.pdf
    In A Pinch - Ingredient Substitution, a PDF file.

    * http://www.thousandeggs.com/cookbooks.html
    Links to old culinary & brewing documents online, by Cindy Renfrow.

    * http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/egg/fdnews.html
    A humongous list of culinary newsletters, magazines and journals.

    * http://www.azcentral.com/home/cooking101/
    Cooking 101.

    * http://www.gortons.com/cookbook/
    Gorton's fisherman's cookbook and fish glossary.

    * http://www.pipeline.com/~rosskat/
    A wealth of culinary information, resources, recipes, etc. on a
    rather disorganised site.

    * http://members.aol.com/Jwmike101/home.html
    Culinary resource desk. Lots of useful links.

    * http://www.psgrill.net/Encyclopedia/ENCYCLOPEDIA.html
    Large, useful food dictionary (but with some annoying
    mistranslations and misspellings).

    * http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/glossary/
    BBC's food glossary.

    * http://www.calacademy.org/research/anthropology/utensil/
    The History of Eating Utensils.

    * http://www.astaspice.org/history/history_main.htm
    ASTA's World of Spice - The history of the Spice Trade. By The
    American Spice Trade Association.

    * http://www.usmef.org/TradeLibrary/InternationalMeatManual.asp
    International Meat Manual. Corn-fed beef, grass-fed beef, veal,
    pork and lamb. In English, Japanese, Korean, Mandarin Chinese and
    Spanish. By the U.S. Meat Export Federation.

    * http://www.carnegielibrary.org/subject/food/
    Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh -- comprehensive Food and Cooking
    resource guide

    * http://www.bakingbusiness.com/refbook.asp
    The Encyclopedia of Baking offers reference, formulations and
    troubleshooting for common baking ingredients.

    ----------------------------------------
    9 Food newsgroups and mailing lists

    ----------------------------------------
    9.1 rec.food.cooking

    a.k.a. us: A group for the discussion of cooking in general. Recipes
    and requests for recipes are welcome here, as are discussions of cooking techniques, equipment, etc. In short, if it has to do with cooking, it probably belongs here - though that doesn't mean it doesn't belong
    somewhere else, too!

    ----------------------------------------
    9.2 rec.food.recipes

    A moderated newsgroup for recipes and requests for recipes. Each week a
    FAQ explains how to post recipes or requests. The lead moderator is
    Tracy Carman, <recipes@swcp.com>.
    The rfr moderators' software automatically sets followups to rfc.
    The reason is, no discussion is allowed in rfr - only recipes or
    requests for same. Since some people might wish to publicly discuss
    posted recipes notwithstanding, followups to rfc serve a useful purpose.

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    9.3 rec.food.drink, rec.food.drink.beer, rec.food.drink.tea,
    rec.food.restaurants, rec.food.drink.coffee
    rec.food.sourdough, rec.food.historic

    Pretty self-explanatory.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.4 rec.food.veg

    About vegetarianism. It also has its own FAQ list, with questions about
    the myths and truths of the vegetarian diet, information on where to get "cruelty-free" products, etc.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.5 rec.food.veg.cooking

    A moderated version of rec.food.veg

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    9.6 rec.food.preserving

    "Rec.food.preserving is a newsgroup devoted to the discussion of
    recipes, equipment, and techniques of food preservation. Current food preservation techniques that rightly should be discussed in this forum
    include canning, freezing, dehydration, pickling, smoking, salting,
    distilling, and potting. Foodstuffs are defined as produce (both fruits
    and vegetables), meat, fish, dairy products, culinary and medicinal
    herbs. Discussions should be limited to home-grown or home-preserved
    foods." (From the rec.food.preserving FAQ)

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    9.7 also...

    rec.crafts.winemaking
    rec.crafts.brewing
    alt.food
    alt.food.wine
    alt.coffee
    alt.food.asian
    alt.food.fat-free
    alt.food.low-fat
    alt.bacchus
    alt.food.mcdonalds (an oxymoron if ever I heard one)
    alt.food.coca-cola (mmmm....coca cola...)
    alt.food.chocolate
    alt.food.taco.bell
    alt.creative-cook
    alt.creative-cooking
    alt.cooking-chat
    alt.food.barbecue
    alt.2eggs.sausage.beans.tomatoes.2toast.largetea.cheerslove alt.food.mexican-cooking
    alt.food.sushi

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    9.8 mailing lists

    A very popular mailing list is

    Chile-Heads

    Purpose: The Chile-Heads list is intended to provide a forum
    for discussion of matters relating to chile peppers; including,
    but not limited to:

    o Growing peppers
    o Seed and plant sources
    o Exchanges of seeds/plants/pods/etc.
    o Exotic varieties
    o Storing and preserving chiles
    o Recipes using chiles
    o Other related posts

    http://globalgarden.com/Chile-Heads/list_info.phtml

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List
    All messages posted to the list are emailed immediately to
    everyone on the list.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List
    The digest will save all email messages posted to the list for
    the day and send in one email message.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from
    ftp.globalgarden.com, in pub/Chile-Heads/digest/vNN.nMMM
    (where "NN" is the volume number, and "MMM" is the issue number).

    How to Unsubscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List or Digest
    Mailing List
    To unsubscribe send email to Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    or Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    (depending on which version of the list you are subscribed to)
    with the body of the message containing:
    UNSUBSCRIBE


    Another popular mailing list is

    Bread-Bakers

    The bread-bakers digest and daily-bread mailing lists are for the
    free exchange of recipes and information related to any and all
    aspects of bread baking, by hand or by machine.
    http://www.bread-bakers.com/

    To join the bread-bakers mailing list, send mail to
    bread-bakers-request@lists.bread-bakers.com In the body of the
    message, place, in lower case with no indentation, the single word:

    subscribe

    This will subscribe you at the address that your message is sent
    from. This is almost certainly your correct address. Bestserv will
    send you a message asking you to confirm your subscription request.
    You must reply to the message changing the word REJECT in the
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    10 Other culinary FAQs (thank you to Damsel in dis Dress)

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    10.1 Foods

    * ftp://ftp.michvhf.com/pub/rec.food.baking/FAQ
    (rec.food.baking FAQ, by B. Keith Ryder)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/sourdough/faq/preamble.html
    (rec.food.sourdough FAQ, maintained by Darrell Greenwood)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/index2.html#faq
    (Meat FAQs: Foie gras, Pig processing, Venison processing, Elk and
    caribou, Wagyu and Kobe beef; by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.macscouter.com/Cooking/DutchOven.html
    (Dutch oven cooking)

    * http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/index.html
    (BBQ FAQ, by William W. Wight)

    * http://www.bbqguide.com/meat_smoking_and_curing_faq.htm
    (Meat smoking and curing FAQ, maintained by Richard Thead)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/preserving/part1/
    (rec.food.preserving FAQ, maintained by Eric Decker)

    * http://edible-complex.home.att.net/faq-spices.html
    (Spices FAQ, by Daniel M. Germán)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/culinary-herbs/part1/
    (Culinary herbs FAQ, maintained by Henriette Kress)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/truffles.html
    (Truffles (fungi) FAQ, by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/chocolate/faq/
    (Chocolate FAQ, by Monee Kidd)

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    10.2 Beverages

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/caffeine-faq/
    (Coffee and caffeine FAQ, by Alex Lopez-Ortiz)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/tea/faq/
    (Tea FAQ, by Christopher Roberson)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/wine-faq/part1/
    (Wine FAQ, by Bradford S. Brown)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/crafts/winemaking-faq/
    (Winemaking FAQ, by Don Buchan)

    * http://www.beerinfo.com/rfdb/faq.html
    (Beer FAQ, by John A. Lock)

    * http://hbd.org/brewery/library/absfaq.html
    (Absinthe FAQ, by Matthew Baggott)

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    10.3 Religion, lifestyle and special diets

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/rfcj/kosherfaq.htm
    (Kosher food, by Pat Gold, Beth Greenfeld, and Ruth Heiges)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/vegetarian/faq/
    (rec.food.veg (vegetarian) FAQ, by Michael Traub)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/fatfree/faq/
    (Fat-free FAQ, by Michelle Dick)

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    10.4 Miscellaneous

    * http://FAQs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/cooking/common-topics
    (Commonly discussed topics, by Stephanie da Silva)

    * http://www.thepurplehouse.net/wedding/cookware.txt
    (Cookware FAQ, by Oliver Sharp)

    * http://www.sff.net/people/pff/sharp.txt
    (Knife FAQs: Plain vs. serrated edges, Knife sharpening,
    Steel types, by Joe Talmadge)

    * http://www.survival-center.com/foodfaq/ff1-toc.htm
    (Food storage FAQ, by Alan T. Hagan)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sci/food-science-faq/part1/
    (Food science FAQ, by Rachel Zemser, J. Ralph Blanchfield, and Paul
    King)

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    10.5 Humour

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/kool-aid-faq/
    (Kool-Aid FAQ, by Paul and Bess Dawson-Schmidt)

    * http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/bofh-food-faq
    (bofh.food FAQ, by J.D. Falk)

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    11 "Unofficial" rec.food.cooking Web site

    Damsel in dis Dress used to maintain what many people regarded as the 'unofficial' rec.food.cooking site, with sections devoted to rfc chat,
    rfc 'signature' dishes, rfc cook-in reports, and rfc birthdays.
    Chatty Cathy is currently in charge of the site, which contains all of
    the above and more, particularly a link to the rfc map set up by
    Christine Dabney. The site is located at
    http://www.recfoodcooking.org

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    12 Sources

    Lots of wonderful people helped compile this list - again, much
    acknowledgement is due to Cindy Kandolf for putting this entire thing
    together and to Amy Gale for maintaining it and adding to it for many
    years.

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    12.1 Contributors

    The other wonderful people are :

    carolynd(at)sail.labs.tek.com
    ekman(at)netc.om.com
    arielle(at)aronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
    rs7x+(at)andrew.cmu.edu
    jane(at)cse.lbl.gov
    jonog(at)g2syd.genasys.com.au anita(at)devvax.mincom.oz.au sbookey(at)ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey) ccd(at)ccdadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au pmmuggli(at)uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu chu(at)acsu.buffalo.edu cdfk(at)otter.hpl.hp.com dudek(at)ksr.com aem(at)symbiosis.ahp.com wald(at)theory.lcs.mit.edu harvey(at)indyvax.iupui.edu ed(at)pa.dec.com ndkj(at)vax5.cit.cornell.edu ekman(at)netc.om.com
    otten(at)icase.edu jane(at)cse.lbl.gov loosemore-sandra(at)cs.yale.edu mworley(at)mathcs.emory.edu kts(at)michael.udev.cdc.com cc(at)dcs.edinburgh.ac.uk leander(at)ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
    cduff(at)sugar.NeoSoft.COM
    lvirden(at)cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
    hammond(at)niwot.scd.ucar.EDU (Steve Hammond)
    dfw(at)thumper.bellcore.com (Doris Woods)
    gibbsm(at)ll.mit.edu (MargAret D Gibbs)
    rickert(at)cco.caltech.edu (Keith Warren Rickert)
    Simon Kershaw Simon.Kershaw(at)Smallworld.co.uk
    Joel Offenberg offenbrg(at)trifle.gsfc.nasa.gov
    grant(at)oj.rsmas.miami.edu (Grant Basham)
    lmak(at)cbnewsf.cb.att.com (louisa.l.mak)
    twain(at)carson.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin) hz225wu(at)unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Micaela Pantke)
    sfisher(at)megatest.com (Scott Fisher)
    byrne(at)rcf.rsmas.miami.edu (Charlie Byrne)
    jmk5u(at)Virginia.EDU
    bae(at)gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Beverly Erlebacher) rlwilliams(at)gallua.gallaudet.edu (Skip) hwalden(at)science-store.chem.wayne.edu (Heather Walden)
    mcenter(at)amoco.com (Mike Center, PSC)
    kevin(at)eye.com (Kevin Stokker)
    steven(at)surya.cs.ucla.edu (Steven Berson)
    eric.decker(at)canrem.com (Eric Decker)
    peteo(at)ford.wpd.sgi.com (Peter Orelup)
    sk10003(at)cus.cam.ac.uk (Scott Kleinman)
    David Casseres casseres(at)apple.com Ted.Taylor(at)p4214.f104.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Taylor)
    george(at)dfds.ml.com (George Minkovsky)
    Alison(at)moose.demon.co.uk (Alison Scott)
    jae(at)world.std.com (Jon A Edelston)
    conrad(at)qpsx.oz.au (Conrad Drake)
    nadel(at)attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel)
    patricia(at)cs.utexas.edu (Patricia M. Burson)
    betsey(at)columbia.edu (Elizabeth Fike)
    leah(at)smith.chi.il.us (Leah Smith)
    steve(at)unipalm.co.uk (Steve Ladlow)
    STEVE SKHNY(at)CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
    "Sudheer Apte" apte(at)loki.hks.com
    Diane Ferrell, Leslie Basel
    rankin(at)scubed.com (Tom Rankin)
    vev(at)msen.com (Vince Vielhaber)
    HUYQ78A(at)prodigy.com (MS PHYLLIS T SPAETH)
    lenf(at)netc.om.com (Len Freedman)
    apforz(at)pfood.win.net (Andy Pforzheimer)
    wnukoski(at)crypt.erie.ge.com (George Wnukoski)
    Dan_Masi(at)Warren.mentorg.com
    robinc(at)oanet.com (Robin Cowdrey)
    merlin(at)ion.com.au (Merlin Zener)
    "Frank Fileccia" surplus(at)telusplanet.net
    "Rodger Whitlock" totototo(at)mail.pacificcoast.net
    Damsel in dis Dress damsel.in.dis.dress(at)gmail.com
    Shankar Bhattacharyya sbhattac(at)idt.net
    Sophie Laplante laplante(at)lri.fr
    Andrew Nicholson andrewn(at)lesto.com
    Ed Keith edkeith(at)home.com
    Read rweaver(at)igc.org
    T. Terrell Banks terry(at)banks-usa.com
    William Chuang wchuang(at)MIT.EDU
    Scott Jordan sjordan(at)ntrnet.net
    Terry Simpson terry(at)connected-systems.com
    Bill Boylan bill.boylan(at)cox.net
    Max Hauser maxREMOVE(at)THIStdl.com
    Vilco a(at)b.invalid
    Lyndon Watson teile(at)clear.net.nz

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    12.2 Bibliography

    This is a new section composed of the acknowledgements previously
    sprinkled through the text. More information on these books will be
    welcomed.

    1) "Trolldom in the Kitchen"
    Pat Bjaaland and Melody Favish

    2) "Larousse Gastronomique"
    ISBN 0 7493 0316 6

    Larousse Gastronomique
    The New American Edition of the World's Greatest Culinary
    Encyclopedia
    By Jenifer Harvey Lang
    Hardcover, 1193 pages
    ISBN: 0517570327
    List Price: $60.00
    Random House
    Publication Date: 10/01/88

    3) "Still Life with Menu" (K)
    Mollie Katzen
    Revised trade paperback 1995
    Still Life with Menu Cookbook
    Trade Paperback, 256 Pages, Revised, Ten Speed, March 1995
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk)
    Author: Katzen, Mollie
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk.)

    Still Life With Menu Cookbook by Katzen, Mollie
    fifty new meatless menus with original art
    Berkeley, California, Ten Speed Press, 1988
    ISBN 0898152569

    4) "Cookery in Colour" (P)
    Marguerite Patten

    5) "The Rotation Diet" (RD)

    6) "My Fun-to-cook-book" (S)
    Ursula Sedgwick

    7) "The New Food Lover's Companion"

    8) "Michel Guérard's Cuisine Minceur"
    Michel Guérard

    9) "Mastering the Art of French Cooking"
    Julia Child

    10) "The Oxford Companion to Food"
    Alan Davidson

    11) "Julia and Jacques Cooking At Home"
    by Julia Child and Jacques Pépin

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    Clean the wok with hot water and some form of scrubbing tool. The
    bamboo things they sometimes include actually work or one can use a
    nylon scrubbing pad (no brillo, SOS, or equivalent). After the wok is
    cleaned, put it back on the burner for a few minutes to heat it up and evaporate any moisture. Then, add a little oil to it and rub it around
    with a paper towel to keep it shiny and from rusting with any moisture
    it may attract in between uses.

    Another thing, when you are done cooking in the wok, put some water in
    it to soak while you eat. Cleanup takes just a few work with a nylon
    scrubbing pad and some hot water.

    Taking good care of your cookware only requires a few minutes of time
    and makes it much easier to use and cleanup. Food doesn't stick to a
    well seasoned wok. If it starts to stick, scrub it well with something
    like an S.O.S. pad and re-season.

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    5.2 Cast Iron (thank you to Tom Rankin)

    Summary:
    Make sure your cast iron is clean down to bare metal.
    Coat with fat, heat, repeat.
    Look after by never washing in soapy water and scrubbing as little as
    possible.

    Details:

    Initial cleaning: get off all the packaging oil, burnt food or
    whatever the pan has on it. Some suggestions for achieving this are
    - Wash in hot soapy water, dry thoroughly
    - Boil undiluted white vinegar in the pan for while
    - Commercial beadblasting (not sandblasting)
    - Steel wool
    - Hot embers
    - Kosher salt baked in the pan at 500°F (260°C) for 4 hours and
    scraped out again
    - Put in self-cleaning oven and turn on clean cycle

    Fats to use: a solid vegetable fat, or lard. Oil is not as suitable.

    Seasoning process: Wipe pot inside and out with melted fat. Do the lid
    too (if it's cast iron). At this point, authorities seem to diverge.
    The common theme is "get it hot and keep it hot for considerably more
    than an hour" (optionally followed by "re-coat it with fat during the process"). Two hours at 350°F (175°C), re-wiping with fat every
    30 minutes, seems sensible.

    When this has been done, the seasoning process has been begun but not
    yet completed. The first few times the pan is used, it should be for
    fairly fatty foods. Fried eggs rather than tomato soup, for example.

    Each time the pan is used, rinse with hot water and scrub if necessary.
    Don't scour or use detergent - otherwise you will need to re-season.
    Some people coat their cast iron very lightly with oil after washing,
    then wipe out after an initial heating next time they use it.

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    6 History and Lore of rec.food.cooking

    ----------------------------------------
    6.1 Origins of rec.food.cooking (thank you to Max Hauser)

    rec.food.cooking began as net.cooks, launched by friend and fellow food
    fanatic Steve Upstill in Berkeley in January 1982 with a posting on
    pragmatic pasta sauces, something Steve was then often cooking,
    including at my place. We were all cranking out a lot of fresh ribbon
    pasta with Atlas 150 (150mm) roller/cutter machines and we needed things
    to do with it. net.cooks became rec.food.cooking in the general Great
    Renaming (late 1986). Current Google archives show Steve's original
    29-Jan-82 posting, and also his 31-Jan-82 net.general announcement of net.cooks, "All about food, cooking, cookbooks, recipes and other
    alimentary effluvia." That was the "charter" of this newsgroup.
    (Discussions by the way using the specific language of newsgroup
    "charter" on net.cooks or rec.food.cooking don't appear until five years
    later in 1987, an exchange between Terry Sterkel, me, and Spafford,
    referring anyway to a different newsgroup.) Posted statistics also
    showed that net.cooks became popular immediately, one of the most
    popular newsgroups at the time. After the 1986 renaming, a Gene
    Spafford active-newsgroups list included rec.food.cooking with summary
    "Food, cooking, cookbooks, and recipes." Steve Upstill continued to
    contribute occasionally, and also to work on recipe-formatting software.
    I recall him commercializing a typesetting macro package ("-MU"), and
    recipe software for Mac platforms.

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    6.2 Some Higlights in the Life of rec.food.cooking

    - There have been quite a few rec.food.cooking cook-ins all over the
    USA, as well as a small one in Germany. The first one was hosted by
    Anne Bourget in Sacramento, California, in 1994.

    - Early in 1997, a rec.food.cooking T-shirt was produced, with the
    proceeds donated to charity. Some 220 T-shirts were sold to rfc'ers.

    - In 2002-3, a rec.food.cooking Cook.Book was published, also with the proceeds donated to charity (City Harvest, a NYC affiliate of Second
    Harvest) to help the victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. There were
    two printings, one late in 2002, the other early in 2003, and a total of
    about 740 copies were sold, also to rfc'ers.


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    6.3 What's all this about xxxx? (much of this section was copied
    verbatim from the rec.food.cooking MiniFAQ that the
    invaluable Amy Gale used to post - thank you, Amy)

    This section tries to cover a few of the most commonly confusing
    topics that may come up on the newsgroup.

    aluminium : has not been linked to Alzheimer's Disease in a
    reproducible experiment.

    Elbonia : a mythical country (probably in Eastern Europe). Comes
    from Scott Adams' "Dilbert", syndicated in newspapers and
    available at http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/

    Ingrid : Anne Bourget's Volvo, used for flattening chicken breasts.
    Now deceased, but the memory lives on.

    j/nghlm : a joke ingredient. Spelling varies.

    WWT : (Weekend With Tammy). Once upon a time, a long-time rfc
    poster named Tammy spent a weekend with another long-time
    poster who posted a long article describing their mainly
    food-related adventures. Some people took exception to
    that posting, complaining about the lack of recipes (which
    were posted separately). Many people now use the WWT
    acronym in the subject header to indicate a posting of
    similar nature.

    ObFood : 'obligatory food reference'. An old rfc tradition.
    Many people hold that, whenever one happens to post off
    topic, one is supposed to add something that has to do
    with food, ideally something that is actually interesting
    and/or useful.

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    7 This has come up once too often....

    This list is a (futile?) attempt to keep certain well-worn subjects from
    coming up yet again. Further suggestions always welcome.

    The $250 cookie recipe

    This recipe comes up often, usually here but also on other newsgroups
    (where it is even less appropriate). The story goes that a woman had a
    cookie at [usually Mrs. Field's or Neiman Marcus' cafe], and liked it
    so much she wanted the recipe. The clerk said "It will cost you
    two-fifty"; the woman thought that meant $2.50 and was shocked to find
    it meant $250. She is now spreading it to get revenge, since it was not returnable.

    There are a number of holes in the story, and no one has ever brought
    forth any evidence that it really happened. (If you want to argue that
    you know someone who knows someone who this really happened to, take it
    over to alt.folklore.urban, where they will proceed to have you for
    breakfast if you have no evidence.) More importantly, it has been
    posted more than enough times by now. Some people have tried the recipe
    and pronounced it good, but it ain't Mrs. Field's. If you would like
    the recipe, ask for someone to mail it to you.

    It has been pointed out to me that the recipe is in the standard source distribution for GNU Emacs and XEmacs. If your site has that source,
    look in the "etc" directory for a file named COOKIES.

    Most importantly, please DO NOT post it any more. There is also a Mrs
    Fields cookbook, published by Time-Life. This has recipes, but not the
    exact ones for the ones sold in the stores, as those recipes are not
    well suited to home baking.

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    8 Recipe archives and other cooking/food sites

    ----------------------------------------
    8.1 Recipe archives

    There are hundreds, if not thousands, of recipe archives on the net.
    Here are some of the more popular and larger ones.

    * http://recipes.alastra.com/
    The official rec.food.recipes archive, maintained by Stephanie da
    Silva.

    * http://www.lysator.liu.se/etexts/recept/us/main.html
    Usenet Cookbook, a collection of old alt.gourmand recipes.

    * http://www.recipesource.com/
    SOAR - Searchable Online Archive of Recipes.

    * http://www.ichef.com/ichef-recipes/

    * http://www.cs.cmu.edu/%7Emjw/recipes/
    Amy Gale's recipe archives.

    * http://recipes.wenzel.net/
    RecipeLand.com's archive with 25000+ recipes.

    * http://www.astray.com/recipes/
    A searchable database of 76,000+ recipes, maintained by Leon
    Brocard.

    * http://www.recipecenter.com
    100,000+ recipes.

    * http://allrecipes.com/
    A large, searchable recipe archive.

    * http://home.uni-one.nl/the-cooking-page/
    The Cooking Page. Numerous recipe links classified by language
    (English, French, German, Dutch), by food course, and by cuisine.

    * http://www.oingo.com/topic/14/14336.html
    A well designed and functional searchable database of thousands of
    food and recipe links.

    * http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/topics/cook.htm
    Ancient and medieval recipes, and cooking and food links.

    * http://www.ajlc.waterloo.on.ca/Recipes/index.html
    A very large, meticulous index of recipes, with a search engine.

    * http://www.cdkitchen.com/
    A comprehensive cooking Web site with over 200,000 recipes,
    including a rec.food.recipes archive. By Valerie Whitmore.

    * http://www.lingualearn.co.uk/food.htm
    A collection of links to recipes, etc. of varius countries.

    * "http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm
    A Boke of Gode Cookery. A collection of Medieval recipes by James
    Matterer.

    * Copycat recipes or links to them are often requested on rfc. Two of
    the better known sites with such recipes are
    http://www.copykat.com
    and
    http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/.

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    8.2 Other cooking/food sites

    * http://www.epicurious.com/
    A general food site with a dictionary (THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION,
    by Sharon Tyler Herbst), recipes from well-known food magazines,
    etc.

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/
    Mimi's Cyber Kitchen, a general food site maintained by Mimi
    Hiller.

    * http://www-ang.kfunigraz.ac.at/~katzer/engl/index.html
    Gernot Katzer's Spice Pages, a Web spice encyclopedia, by Gernot
    Katzer.

    * http://www.foodsubs.com/ (and numerous mirrors)
    The Cook's Thesaurus. By Lori Alden. Suggests substitutions for
    thousands of cooking ingredients.

    * http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Island/3012/glossary.htm
    An A-Z glossary of Indian spices and cooking terms.

    * http://www.EuropeanCuisines.com/
    and
    http://www.owlsprings.com/the_balti_page/
    "European Cuisines" and "The Balti Page".
    By Peter Morwood & Diane Duane.

    * http://www.virtualquincy.com/quincy/recreation/recipes.html
    Directory listing of over 375 recipe and cooking websites.

    * http://www.reluctantgourmet.com/
    Cooking guide for beginner cooks.

    * http://labsoftware.com/cookbook/default.htm
    "Cooking for Graduate Students and and other beginning Kitchen
    Dwellers".

    * http://vsack.homepage.t-online.de/afa_faq.html
    Links to sites related to Asian food and cooking, as posted
    regularly to alt.food.asian by blacksalt.

    * http://www.whatscookingamerica.net/Glossary/GlossaryIndex2.htm
    Linda's Culinary Dictionary. By Linda Stradley. A listing and
    history of cooking, food, and beverage terms.

    * http://www.todine.net/dictionary.html
    Italian-English-French-Spanish-German Gastronomical Dictionary.

    * http://www.xs4all.nl/~margjos/
    English-French-German-Danish-Dutch food dictionary. By Jos and
    Marg Sparreboom.

    * http://www.theepicentre.com/glossary.html
    A glossary of spices, etc.

    * http://www.soupsong.com/ifoodta.html
    "Food tales, or everything you always wanted to know about the
    migration and lore of food."

    * http://www.breadworld.com/canada/tips/glossary/glossary.asp
    A glossary of baking terms maintained by Fleischmann's Yeast, a
    commercial entity.

    * http://www.mhr-viandes.com/en/docu/docu/d9000003.htm
    Multilingual meat and poultry glossaries.

    * http://www.aboutproduce.com/
    Recipes, nutrition info, selection tips for vegetables, fruits, nuts
    and herbs. By the Produce Marketing Association.

    * http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/rfe0.html
    Comprehensive, illustrated fish encylopaedia. An FDA resource.

    * http://navigator.tufts.edu/
    Tufts University Nutrition Navigator. Reviews and rating of
    nutrition information Web sites.

    * http://food.oregonstate.edu/glossary/all.html
    Science of Foods Glossary.

    * http://www.cahe.nmsu.edu/pubs/_e/e-131.pdf
    In A Pinch - Ingredient Substitution, a PDF file.

    * http://www.thousandeggs.com/cookbooks.html
    Links to old culinary & brewing documents online, by Cindy Renfrow.

    * http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/egg/fdnews.html
    A humongous list of culinary newsletters, magazines and journals.

    * http://www.azcentral.com/home/cooking101/
    Cooking 101.

    * http://www.gortons.com/cookbook/
    Gorton's fisherman's cookbook and fish glossary.

    * http://www.pipeline.com/~rosskat/
    A wealth of culinary information, resources, recipes, etc. on a
    rather disorganised site.

    * http://members.aol.com/Jwmike101/home.html
    Culinary resource desk. Lots of useful links.

    * http://www.psgrill.net/Encyclopedia/ENCYCLOPEDIA.html
    Large, useful food dictionary (but with some annoying
    mistranslations and misspellings).

    * http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/glossary/
    BBC's food glossary.

    * http://www.calacademy.org/research/anthropology/utensil/
    The History of Eating Utensils.

    * http://www.astaspice.org/history/history_main.htm
    ASTA's World of Spice - The history of the Spice Trade. By The
    American Spice Trade Association.

    * http://www.usmef.org/TradeLibrary/InternationalMeatManual.asp
    International Meat Manual. Corn-fed beef, grass-fed beef, veal,
    pork and lamb. In English, Japanese, Korean, Mandarin Chinese and
    Spanish. By the U.S. Meat Export Federation.

    * http://www.carnegielibrary.org/subject/food/
    Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh -- comprehensive Food and Cooking
    resource guide

    * http://www.bakingbusiness.com/refbook.asp
    The Encyclopedia of Baking offers reference, formulations and
    troubleshooting for common baking ingredients.

    ----------------------------------------
    9 Food newsgroups and mailing lists

    ----------------------------------------
    9.1 rec.food.cooking

    a.k.a. us: A group for the discussion of cooking in general. Recipes
    and requests for recipes are welcome here, as are discussions of cooking techniques, equipment, etc. In short, if it has to do with cooking, it probably belongs here - though that doesn't mean it doesn't belong
    somewhere else, too!

    ----------------------------------------
    9.2 rec.food.recipes

    A moderated newsgroup for recipes and requests for recipes. Each week a
    FAQ explains how to post recipes or requests. The lead moderator is
    Tracy Carman, <recipes@swcp.com>.
    The rfr moderators' software automatically sets followups to rfc.
    The reason is, no discussion is allowed in rfr - only recipes or
    requests for same. Since some people might wish to publicly discuss
    posted recipes notwithstanding, followups to rfc serve a useful purpose.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.3 rec.food.drink, rec.food.drink.beer, rec.food.drink.tea,
    rec.food.restaurants, rec.food.drink.coffee
    rec.food.sourdough, rec.food.historic

    Pretty self-explanatory.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.4 rec.food.veg

    About vegetarianism. It also has its own FAQ list, with questions about
    the myths and truths of the vegetarian diet, information on where to get "cruelty-free" products, etc.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.5 rec.food.veg.cooking

    A moderated version of rec.food.veg

    ----------------------------------------
    9.6 rec.food.preserving

    "Rec.food.preserving is a newsgroup devoted to the discussion of
    recipes, equipment, and techniques of food preservation. Current food preservation techniques that rightly should be discussed in this forum
    include canning, freezing, dehydration, pickling, smoking, salting,
    distilling, and potting. Foodstuffs are defined as produce (both fruits
    and vegetables), meat, fish, dairy products, culinary and medicinal
    herbs. Discussions should be limited to home-grown or home-preserved
    foods." (From the rec.food.preserving FAQ)

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    9.7 also...

    rec.crafts.winemaking
    rec.crafts.brewing
    alt.food
    alt.food.wine
    alt.coffee
    alt.food.asian
    alt.food.fat-free
    alt.food.low-fat
    alt.bacchus
    alt.food.mcdonalds (an oxymoron if ever I heard one)
    alt.food.coca-cola (mmmm....coca cola...)
    alt.food.chocolate
    alt.food.taco.bell
    alt.creative-cook
    alt.creative-cooking
    alt.cooking-chat
    alt.food.barbecue
    alt.2eggs.sausage.beans.tomatoes.2toast.largetea.cheerslove alt.food.mexican-cooking
    alt.food.sushi

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    9.8 mailing lists

    A very popular mailing list is

    Chile-Heads

    Purpose: The Chile-Heads list is intended to provide a forum
    for discussion of matters relating to chile peppers; including,
    but not limited to:

    o Growing peppers
    o Seed and plant sources
    o Exchanges of seeds/plants/pods/etc.
    o Exotic varieties
    o Storing and preserving chiles
    o Recipes using chiles
    o Other related posts

    http://globalgarden.com/Chile-Heads/list_info.phtml

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List
    All messages posted to the list are emailed immediately to
    everyone on the list.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List
    The digest will save all email messages posted to the list for
    the day and send in one email message.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from
    ftp.globalgarden.com, in pub/Chile-Heads/digest/vNN.nMMM
    (where "NN" is the volume number, and "MMM" is the issue number).

    How to Unsubscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List or Digest
    Mailing List
    To unsubscribe send email to Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    or Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    (depending on which version of the list you are subscribed to)
    with the body of the message containing:
    UNSUBSCRIBE


    Another popular mailing list is

    Bread-Bakers

    The bread-bakers digest and daily-bread mailing lists are for the
    free exchange of recipes and information related to any and all
    aspects of bread baking, by hand or by machine.
    http://www.bread-bakers.com/

    To join the bread-bakers mailing list, send mail to
    bread-bakers-request@lists.bread-bakers.com In the body of the
    message, place, in lower case with no indentation, the single word:

    subscribe

    This will subscribe you at the address that your message is sent
    from. This is almost certainly your correct address. Bestserv will
    send you a message asking you to confirm your subscription request.
    You must reply to the message changing the word REJECT in the
    subject to ACCEPT. You will get a confirmation when your
    subscription has been accepted. If you have problems subscribing,
    please write to us at bread-bakers-owner@lists.bread-bakers.com
    and we will assist you.

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    10 Other culinary FAQs (thank you to Damsel in dis Dress)

    ----------------------------------------
    10.1 Foods

    * ftp://ftp.michvhf.com/pub/rec.food.baking/FAQ
    (rec.food.baking FAQ, by B. Keith Ryder)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/sourdough/faq/preamble.html
    (rec.food.sourdough FAQ, maintained by Darrell Greenwood)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/index2.html#faq
    (Meat FAQs: Foie gras, Pig processing, Venison processing, Elk and
    caribou, Wagyu and Kobe beef; by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.macscouter.com/Cooking/DutchOven.html
    (Dutch oven cooking)

    * http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/index.html
    (BBQ FAQ, by William W. Wight)

    * http://www.bbqguide.com/meat_smoking_and_curing_faq.htm
    (Meat smoking and curing FAQ, maintained by Richard Thead)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/preserving/part1/
    (rec.food.preserving FAQ, maintained by Eric Decker)

    * http://edible-complex.home.att.net/faq-spices.html
    (Spices FAQ, by Daniel M. Germán)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/culinary-herbs/part1/
    (Culinary herbs FAQ, maintained by Henriette Kress)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/truffles.html
    (Truffles (fungi) FAQ, by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/chocolate/faq/
    (Chocolate FAQ, by Monee Kidd)

    ----------------------------------------
    10.2 Beverages

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/caffeine-faq/
    (Coffee and caffeine FAQ, by Alex Lopez-Ortiz)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/tea/faq/
    (Tea FAQ, by Christopher Roberson)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/wine-faq/part1/
    (Wine FAQ, by Bradford S. Brown)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/crafts/winemaking-faq/
    (Winemaking FAQ, by Don Buchan)

    * http://www.beerinfo.com/rfdb/faq.html
    (Beer FAQ, by John A. Lock)

    * http://hbd.org/brewery/library/absfaq.html
    (Absinthe FAQ, by Matthew Baggott)

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    10.3 Religion, lifestyle and special diets

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/rfcj/kosherfaq.htm
    (Kosher food, by Pat Gold, Beth Greenfeld, and Ruth Heiges)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/vegetarian/faq/
    (rec.food.veg (vegetarian) FAQ, by Michael Traub)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/fatfree/faq/
    (Fat-free FAQ, by Michelle Dick)

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    10.4 Miscellaneous

    * http://FAQs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/cooking/common-topics
    (Commonly discussed topics, by Stephanie da Silva)

    * http://www.thepurplehouse.net/wedding/cookware.txt
    (Cookware FAQ, by Oliver Sharp)

    * http://www.sff.net/people/pff/sharp.txt
    (Knife FAQs: Plain vs. serrated edges, Knife sharpening,
    Steel types, by Joe Talmadge)

    * http://www.survival-center.com/foodfaq/ff1-toc.htm
    (Food storage FAQ, by Alan T. Hagan)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sci/food-science-faq/part1/
    (Food science FAQ, by Rachel Zemser, J. Ralph Blanchfield, and Paul
    King)

    ----------------------------------------
    10.5 Humour

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/kool-aid-faq/
    (Kool-Aid FAQ, by Paul and Bess Dawson-Schmidt)

    * http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/bofh-food-faq
    (bofh.food FAQ, by J.D. Falk)

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    11 "Unofficial" rec.food.cooking Web site

    Damsel in dis Dress used to maintain what many people regarded as the 'unofficial' rec.food.cooking site, with sections devoted to rfc chat,
    rfc 'signature' dishes, rfc cook-in reports, and rfc birthdays.
    Chatty Cathy is currently in charge of the site, which contains all of
    the above and more, particularly a link to the rfc map set up by
    Christine Dabney. The site is located at
    http://www.recfoodcooking.org

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    12 Sources

    Lots of wonderful people helped compile this list - again, much
    acknowledgement is due to Cindy Kandolf for putting this entire thing
    together and to Amy Gale for maintaining it and adding to it for many
    years.

    ----------------------------------------
    12.1 Contributors

    The other wonderful people are :

    carolynd(at)sail.labs.tek.com
    ekman(at)netc.om.com
    arielle(at)aronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
    rs7x+(at)andrew.cmu.edu
    jane(at)cse.lbl.gov
    jonog(at)g2syd.genasys.com.au anita(at)devvax.mincom.oz.au sbookey(at)ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey) ccd(at)ccdadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au pmmuggli(at)uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu chu(at)acsu.buffalo.edu cdfk(at)otter.hpl.hp.com dudek(at)ksr.com aem(at)symbiosis.ahp.com wald(at)theory.lcs.mit.edu harvey(at)indyvax.iupui.edu ed(at)pa.dec.com ndkj(at)vax5.cit.cornell.edu ekman(at)netc.om.com
    otten(at)icase.edu jane(at)cse.lbl.gov loosemore-sandra(at)cs.yale.edu mworley(at)mathcs.emory.edu kts(at)michael.udev.cdc.com cc(at)dcs.edinburgh.ac.uk leander(at)ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
    cduff(at)sugar.NeoSoft.COM
    lvirden(at)cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
    hammond(at)niwot.scd.ucar.EDU (Steve Hammond)
    dfw(at)thumper.bellcore.com (Doris Woods)
    gibbsm(at)ll.mit.edu (MargAret D Gibbs)
    rickert(at)cco.caltech.edu (Keith Warren Rickert)
    Simon Kershaw Simon.Kershaw(at)Smallworld.co.uk
    Joel Offenberg offenbrg(at)trifle.gsfc.nasa.gov
    grant(at)oj.rsmas.miami.edu (Grant Basham)
    lmak(at)cbnewsf.cb.att.com (louisa.l.mak)
    twain(at)carson.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin) hz225wu(at)unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Micaela Pantke)
    sfisher(at)megatest.com (Scott Fisher)
    byrne(at)rcf.rsmas.miami.edu (Charlie Byrne)
    jmk5u(at)Virginia.EDU
    bae(at)gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Beverly Erlebacher) rlwilliams(at)gallua.gallaudet.edu (Skip) hwalden(at)science-store.chem.wayne.edu (Heather Walden)
    mcenter(at)amoco.com (Mike Center, PSC)
    kevin(at)eye.com (Kevin Stokker)
    steven(at)surya.cs.ucla.edu (Steven Berson)
    eric.decker(at)canrem.com (Eric Decker)
    peteo(at)ford.wpd.sgi.com (Peter Orelup)
    sk10003(at)cus.cam.ac.uk (Scott Kleinman)
    David Casseres casseres(at)apple.com Ted.Taylor(at)p4214.f104.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Taylor)
    george(at)dfds.ml.com (George Minkovsky)
    Alison(at)moose.demon.co.uk (Alison Scott)
    jae(at)world.std.com (Jon A Edelston)
    conrad(at)qpsx.oz.au (Conrad Drake)
    nadel(at)attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel)
    patricia(at)cs.utexas.edu (Patricia M. Burson)
    betsey(at)columbia.edu (Elizabeth Fike)
    leah(at)smith.chi.il.us (Leah Smith)
    steve(at)unipalm.co.uk (Steve Ladlow)
    STEVE SKHNY(at)CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
    "Sudheer Apte" apte(at)loki.hks.com
    Diane Ferrell, Leslie Basel
    rankin(at)scubed.com (Tom Rankin)
    vev(at)msen.com (Vince Vielhaber)
    HUYQ78A(at)prodigy.com (MS PHYLLIS T SPAETH)
    lenf(at)netc.om.com (Len Freedman)
    apforz(at)pfood.win.net (Andy Pforzheimer)
    wnukoski(at)crypt.erie.ge.com (George Wnukoski)
    Dan_Masi(at)Warren.mentorg.com
    robinc(at)oanet.com (Robin Cowdrey)
    merlin(at)ion.com.au (Merlin Zener)
    "Frank Fileccia" surplus(at)telusplanet.net
    "Rodger Whitlock" totototo(at)mail.pacificcoast.net
    Damsel in dis Dress damsel.in.dis.dress(at)gmail.com
    Shankar Bhattacharyya sbhattac(at)idt.net
    Sophie Laplante laplante(at)lri.fr
    Andrew Nicholson andrewn(at)lesto.com
    Ed Keith edkeith(at)home.com
    Read rweaver(at)igc.org
    T. Terrell Banks terry(at)banks-usa.com
    William Chuang wchuang(at)MIT.EDU
    Scott Jordan sjordan(at)ntrnet.net
    Terry Simpson terry(at)connected-systems.com
    Bill Boylan bill.boylan(at)cox.net
    Max Hauser maxREMOVE(at)THIStdl.com
    Vilco a(at)b.invalid
    Lyndon Watson teile(at)clear.net.nz

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    12.2 Bibliography

    This is a new section composed of the acknowledgements previously
    sprinkled through the text. More information on these books will be
    welcomed.

    1) "Trolldom in the Kitchen"
    Pat Bjaaland and Melody Favish

    2) "Larousse Gastronomique"
    ISBN 0 7493 0316 6

    Larousse Gastronomique
    The New American Edition of the World's Greatest Culinary
    Encyclopedia
    By Jenifer Harvey Lang
    Hardcover, 1193 pages
    ISBN: 0517570327
    List Price: $60.00
    Random House
    Publication Date: 10/01/88

    3) "Still Life with Menu" (K)
    Mollie Katzen
    Revised trade paperback 1995
    Still Life with Menu Cookbook
    Trade Paperback, 256 Pages, Revised, Ten Speed, March 1995
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk)
    Author: Katzen, Mollie
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk.)

    Still Life With Menu Cookbook by Katzen, Mollie
    fifty new meatless menus with original art
    Berkeley, California, Ten Speed Press, 1988
    ISBN 0898152569

    4) "Cookery in Colour" (P)
    Marguerite Patten

    5) "The Rotation Diet" (RD)

    6) "My Fun-to-cook-book" (S)
    Ursula Sedgwick

    7) "The New Food Lover's Companion"

    8) "Michel Guérard's Cuisine Minceur"
    Michel Guérard

    9) "Mastering the Art of French Cooking"
    Julia Child

    10) "The Oxford Companion to Food"
    Alan Davidson

    11) "Julia and Jacques Cooking At Home"
    by Julia Child and Jacques Pépin

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    Clean the wok with hot water and some form of scrubbing tool. The
    bamboo things they sometimes include actually work or one can use a
    nylon scrubbing pad (no brillo, SOS, or equivalent). After the wok is
    cleaned, put it back on the burner for a few minutes to heat it up and evaporate any moisture. Then, add a little oil to it and rub it around
    with a paper towel to keep it shiny and from rusting with any moisture
    it may attract in between uses.

    Another thing, when you are done cooking in the wok, put some water in
    it to soak while you eat. Cleanup takes just a few work with a nylon
    scrubbing pad and some hot water.

    Taking good care of your cookware only requires a few minutes of time
    and makes it much easier to use and cleanup. Food doesn't stick to a
    well seasoned wok. If it starts to stick, scrub it well with something
    like an S.O.S. pad and re-season.

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    5.2 Cast Iron (thank you to Tom Rankin)

    Summary:
    Make sure your cast iron is clean down to bare metal.
    Coat with fat, heat, repeat.
    Look after by never washing in soapy water and scrubbing as little as
    possible.

    Details:

    Initial cleaning: get off all the packaging oil, burnt food or
    whatever the pan has on it. Some suggestions for achieving this are
    - Wash in hot soapy water, dry thoroughly
    - Boil undiluted white vinegar in the pan for while
    - Commercial beadblasting (not sandblasting)
    - Steel wool
    - Hot embers
    - Kosher salt baked in the pan at 500°F (260°C) for 4 hours and
    scraped out again
    - Put in self-cleaning oven and turn on clean cycle

    Fats to use: a solid vegetable fat, or lard. Oil is not as suitable.

    Seasoning process: Wipe pot inside and out with melted fat. Do the lid
    too (if it's cast iron). At this point, authorities seem to diverge.
    The common theme is "get it hot and keep it hot for considerably more
    than an hour" (optionally followed by "re-coat it with fat during the process"). Two hours at 350°F (175°C), re-wiping with fat every
    30 minutes, seems sensible.

    When this has been done, the seasoning process has been begun but not
    yet completed. The first few times the pan is used, it should be for
    fairly fatty foods. Fried eggs rather than tomato soup, for example.

    Each time the pan is used, rinse with hot water and scrub if necessary.
    Don't scour or use detergent - otherwise you will need to re-season.
    Some people coat their cast iron very lightly with oil after washing,
    then wipe out after an initial heating next time they use it.

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    6 History and Lore of rec.food.cooking

    ----------------------------------------
    6.1 Origins of rec.food.cooking (thank you to Max Hauser)

    rec.food.cooking began as net.cooks, launched by friend and fellow food
    fanatic Steve Upstill in Berkeley in January 1982 with a posting on
    pragmatic pasta sauces, something Steve was then often cooking,
    including at my place. We were all cranking out a lot of fresh ribbon
    pasta with Atlas 150 (150mm) roller/cutter machines and we needed things
    to do with it. net.cooks became rec.food.cooking in the general Great
    Renaming (late 1986). Current Google archives show Steve's original
    29-Jan-82 posting, and also his 31-Jan-82 net.general announcement of net.cooks, "All about food, cooking, cookbooks, recipes and other
    alimentary effluvia." That was the "charter" of this newsgroup.
    (Discussions by the way using the specific language of newsgroup
    "charter" on net.cooks or rec.food.cooking don't appear until five years
    later in 1987, an exchange between Terry Sterkel, me, and Spafford,
    referring anyway to a different newsgroup.) Posted statistics also
    showed that net.cooks became popular immediately, one of the most
    popular newsgroups at the time. After the 1986 renaming, a Gene
    Spafford active-newsgroups list included rec.food.cooking with summary
    "Food, cooking, cookbooks, and recipes." Steve Upstill continued to
    contribute occasionally, and also to work on recipe-formatting software.
    I recall him commercializing a typesetting macro package ("-MU"), and
    recipe software for Mac platforms.

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    6.2 Some Higlights in the Life of rec.food.cooking

    - There have been quite a few rec.food.cooking cook-ins all over the
    USA, as well as a small one in Germany. The first one was hosted by
    Anne Bourget in Sacramento, California, in 1994.

    - Early in 1997, a rec.food.cooking T-shirt was produced, with the
    proceeds donated to charity. Some 220 T-shirts were sold to rfc'ers.

    - In 2002-3, a rec.food.cooking Cook.Book was published, also with the proceeds donated to charity (City Harvest, a NYC affiliate of Second
    Harvest) to help the victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. There were
    two printings, one late in 2002, the other early in 2003, and a total of
    about 740 copies were sold, also to rfc'ers.


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    6.3 What's all this about xxxx? (much of this section was copied
    verbatim from the rec.food.cooking MiniFAQ that the
    invaluable Amy Gale used to post - thank you, Amy)

    This section tries to cover a few of the most commonly confusing
    topics that may come up on the newsgroup.

    aluminium : has not been linked to Alzheimer's Disease in a
    reproducible experiment.

    Elbonia : a mythical country (probably in Eastern Europe). Comes
    from Scott Adams' "Dilbert", syndicated in newspapers and
    available at http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/

    Ingrid : Anne Bourget's Volvo, used for flattening chicken breasts.
    Now deceased, but the memory lives on.

    j/nghlm : a joke ingredient. Spelling varies.

    WWT : (Weekend With Tammy). Once upon a time, a long-time rfc
    poster named Tammy spent a weekend with another long-time
    poster who posted a long article describing their mainly
    food-related adventures. Some people took exception to
    that posting, complaining about the lack of recipes (which
    were posted separately). Many people now use the WWT
    acronym in the subject header to indicate a posting of
    similar nature.

    ObFood : 'obligatory food reference'. An old rfc tradition.
    Many people hold that, whenever one happens to post off
    topic, one is supposed to add something that has to do
    with food, ideally something that is actually interesting
    and/or useful.

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    7 This has come up once too often....

    This list is a (futile?) attempt to keep certain well-worn subjects from
    coming up yet again. Further suggestions always welcome.

    The $250 cookie recipe

    This recipe comes up often, usually here but also on other newsgroups
    (where it is even less appropriate). The story goes that a woman had a
    cookie at [usually Mrs. Field's or Neiman Marcus' cafe], and liked it
    so much she wanted the recipe. The clerk said "It will cost you
    two-fifty"; the woman thought that meant $2.50 and was shocked to find
    it meant $250. She is now spreading it to get revenge, since it was not returnable.

    There are a number of holes in the story, and no one has ever brought
    forth any evidence that it really happened. (If you want to argue that
    you know someone who knows someone who this really happened to, take it
    over to alt.folklore.urban, where they will proceed to have you for
    breakfast if you have no evidence.) More importantly, it has been
    posted more than enough times by now. Some people have tried the recipe
    and pronounced it good, but it ain't Mrs. Field's. If you would like
    the recipe, ask for someone to mail it to you.

    It has been pointed out to me that the recipe is in the standard source distribution for GNU Emacs and XEmacs. If your site has that source,
    look in the "etc" directory for a file named COOKIES.

    Most importantly, please DO NOT post it any more. There is also a Mrs
    Fields cookbook, published by Time-Life. This has recipes, but not the
    exact ones for the ones sold in the stores, as those recipes are not
    well suited to home baking.

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    8 Recipe archives and other cooking/food sites

    ----------------------------------------
    8.1 Recipe archives

    There are hundreds, if not thousands, of recipe archives on the net.
    Here are some of the more popular and larger ones.

    * http://recipes.alastra.com/
    The official rec.food.recipes archive, maintained by Stephanie da
    Silva.

    * http://www.lysator.liu.se/etexts/recept/us/main.html
    Usenet Cookbook, a collection of old alt.gourmand recipes.

    * http://www.recipesource.com/
    SOAR - Searchable Online Archive of Recipes.

    * http://www.ichef.com/ichef-recipes/

    * http://www.cs.cmu.edu/%7Emjw/recipes/
    Amy Gale's recipe archives.

    * http://recipes.wenzel.net/
    RecipeLand.com's archive with 25000+ recipes.

    * http://www.astray.com/recipes/
    A searchable database of 76,000+ recipes, maintained by Leon
    Brocard.

    * http://www.recipecenter.com
    100,000+ recipes.

    * http://allrecipes.com/
    A large, searchable recipe archive.

    * http://home.uni-one.nl/the-cooking-page/
    The Cooking Page. Numerous recipe links classified by language
    (English, French, German, Dutch), by food course, and by cuisine.

    * http://www.oingo.com/topic/14/14336.html
    A well designed and functional searchable database of thousands of
    food and recipe links.

    * http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/topics/cook.htm
    Ancient and medieval recipes, and cooking and food links.

    * http://www.ajlc.waterloo.on.ca/Recipes/index.html
    A very large, meticulous index of recipes, with a search engine.

    * http://www.cdkitchen.com/
    A comprehensive cooking Web site with over 200,000 recipes,
    including a rec.food.recipes archive. By Valerie Whitmore.

    * http://www.lingualearn.co.uk/food.htm
    A collection of links to recipes, etc. of varius countries.

    * "http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm
    A Boke of Gode Cookery. A collection of Medieval recipes by James
    Matterer.

    * Copycat recipes or links to them are often requested on rfc. Two of
    the better known sites with such recipes are
    http://www.copykat.com
    and
    http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/.

    ----------------------------------------
    8.2 Other cooking/food sites

    * http://www.epicurious.com/
    A general food site with a dictionary (THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION,
    by Sharon Tyler Herbst), recipes from well-known food magazines,
    etc.

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/
    Mimi's Cyber Kitchen, a general food site maintained by Mimi
    Hiller.

    * http://www-ang.kfunigraz.ac.at/~katzer/engl/index.html
    Gernot Katzer's Spice Pages, a Web spice encyclopedia, by Gernot
    Katzer.

    * http://www.foodsubs.com/ (and numerous mirrors)
    The Cook's Thesaurus. By Lori Alden. Suggests substitutions for
    thousands of cooking ingredients.

    * http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Island/3012/glossary.htm
    An A-Z glossary of Indian spices and cooking terms.

    * http://www.EuropeanCuisines.com/
    and
    http://www.owlsprings.com/the_balti_page/
    "European Cuisines" and "The Balti Page".
    By Peter Morwood & Diane Duane.

    * http://www.virtualquincy.com/quincy/recreation/recipes.html
    Directory listing of over 375 recipe and cooking websites.

    * http://www.reluctantgourmet.com/
    Cooking guide for beginner cooks.

    * http://labsoftware.com/cookbook/default.htm
    "Cooking for Graduate Students and and other beginning Kitchen
    Dwellers".

    * http://vsack.homepage.t-online.de/afa_faq.html
    Links to sites related to Asian food and cooking, as posted
    regularly to alt.food.asian by blacksalt.

    * http://www.whatscookingamerica.net/Glossary/GlossaryIndex2.htm
    Linda's Culinary Dictionary. By Linda Stradley. A listing and
    history of cooking, food, and beverage terms.

    * http://www.todine.net/dictionary.html
    Italian-English-French-Spanish-German Gastronomical Dictionary.

    * http://www.xs4all.nl/~margjos/
    English-French-German-Danish-Dutch food dictionary. By Jos and
    Marg Sparreboom.

    * http://www.theepicentre.com/glossary.html
    A glossary of spices, etc.

    * http://www.soupsong.com/ifoodta.html
    "Food tales, or everything you always wanted to know about the
    migration and lore of food."

    * http://www.breadworld.com/canada/tips/glossary/glossary.asp
    A glossary of baking terms maintained by Fleischmann's Yeast, a
    commercial entity.

    * http://www.mhr-viandes.com/en/docu/docu/d9000003.htm
    Multilingual meat and poultry glossaries.

    * http://www.aboutproduce.com/
    Recipes, nutrition info, selection tips for vegetables, fruits, nuts
    and herbs. By the Produce Marketing Association.

    * http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/rfe0.html
    Comprehensive, illustrated fish encylopaedia. An FDA resource.

    * http://navigator.tufts.edu/
    Tufts University Nutrition Navigator. Reviews and rating of
    nutrition information Web sites.

    * http://food.oregonstate.edu/glossary/all.html
    Science of Foods Glossary.

    * http://www.cahe.nmsu.edu/pubs/_e/e-131.pdf
    In A Pinch - Ingredient Substitution, a PDF file.

    * http://www.thousandeggs.com/cookbooks.html
    Links to old culinary & brewing documents online, by Cindy Renfrow.

    * http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/egg/fdnews.html
    A humongous list of culinary newsletters, magazines and journals.

    * http://www.azcentral.com/home/cooking101/
    Cooking 101.

    * http://www.gortons.com/cookbook/
    Gorton's fisherman's cookbook and fish glossary.

    * http://www.pipeline.com/~rosskat/
    A wealth of culinary information, resources, recipes, etc. on a
    rather disorganised site.

    * http://members.aol.com/Jwmike101/home.html
    Culinary resource desk. Lots of useful links.

    * http://www.psgrill.net/Encyclopedia/ENCYCLOPEDIA.html
    Large, useful food dictionary (but with some annoying
    mistranslations and misspellings).

    * http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/glossary/
    BBC's food glossary.

    * http://www.calacademy.org/research/anthropology/utensil/
    The History of Eating Utensils.

    * http://www.astaspice.org/history/history_main.htm
    ASTA's World of Spice - The history of the Spice Trade. By The
    American Spice Trade Association.

    * http://www.usmef.org/TradeLibrary/InternationalMeatManual.asp
    International Meat Manual. Corn-fed beef, grass-fed beef, veal,
    pork and lamb. In English, Japanese, Korean, Mandarin Chinese and
    Spanish. By the U.S. Meat Export Federation.

    * http://www.carnegielibrary.org/subject/food/
    Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh -- comprehensive Food and Cooking
    resource guide

    * http://www.bakingbusiness.com/refbook.asp
    The Encyclopedia of Baking offers reference, formulations and
    troubleshooting for common baking ingredients.

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    9 Food newsgroups and mailing lists

    ----------------------------------------
    9.1 rec.food.cooking

    a.k.a. us: A group for the discussion of cooking in general. Recipes
    and requests for recipes are welcome here, as are discussions of cooking techniques, equipment, etc. In short, if it has to do with cooking, it probably belongs here - though that doesn't mean it doesn't belong
    somewhere else, too!

    ----------------------------------------
    9.2 rec.food.recipes

    A moderated newsgroup for recipes and requests for recipes. Each week a
    FAQ explains how to post recipes or requests. The lead moderator is
    Tracy Carman, <recipes@swcp.com>.
    The rfr moderators' software automatically sets followups to rfc.
    The reason is, no discussion is allowed in rfr - only recipes or
    requests for same. Since some people might wish to publicly discuss
    posted recipes notwithstanding, followups to rfc serve a useful purpose.

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    9.3 rec.food.drink, rec.food.drink.beer, rec.food.drink.tea,
    rec.food.restaurants, rec.food.drink.coffee
    rec.food.sourdough, rec.food.historic

    Pretty self-explanatory.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.4 rec.food.veg

    About vegetarianism. It also has its own FAQ list, with questions about
    the myths and truths of the vegetarian diet, information on where to get "cruelty-free" products, etc.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.5 rec.food.veg.cooking

    A moderated version of rec.food.veg

    ----------------------------------------
    9.6 rec.food.preserving

    "Rec.food.preserving is a newsgroup devoted to the discussion of
    recipes, equipment, and techniques of food preservation. Current food preservation techniques that rightly should be discussed in this forum
    include canning, freezing, dehydration, pickling, smoking, salting,
    distilling, and potting. Foodstuffs are defined as produce (both fruits
    and vegetables), meat, fish, dairy products, culinary and medicinal
    herbs. Discussions should be limited to home-grown or home-preserved
    foods." (From the rec.food.preserving FAQ)

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    9.7 also...

    rec.crafts.winemaking
    rec.crafts.brewing
    alt.food
    alt.food.wine
    alt.coffee
    alt.food.asian
    alt.food.fat-free
    alt.food.low-fat
    alt.bacchus
    alt.food.mcdonalds (an oxymoron if ever I heard one)
    alt.food.coca-cola (mmmm....coca cola...)
    alt.food.chocolate
    alt.food.taco.bell
    alt.creative-cook
    alt.creative-cooking
    alt.cooking-chat
    alt.food.barbecue
    alt.2eggs.sausage.beans.tomatoes.2toast.largetea.cheerslove alt.food.mexican-cooking
    alt.food.sushi

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    9.8 mailing lists

    A very popular mailing list is

    Chile-Heads

    Purpose: The Chile-Heads list is intended to provide a forum
    for discussion of matters relating to chile peppers; including,
    but not limited to:

    o Growing peppers
    o Seed and plant sources
    o Exchanges of seeds/plants/pods/etc.
    o Exotic varieties
    o Storing and preserving chiles
    o Recipes using chiles
    o Other related posts

    http://globalgarden.com/Chile-Heads/list_info.phtml

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List
    All messages posted to the list are emailed immediately to
    everyone on the list.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List
    The digest will save all email messages posted to the list for
    the day and send in one email message.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from
    ftp.globalgarden.com, in pub/Chile-Heads/digest/vNN.nMMM
    (where "NN" is the volume number, and "MMM" is the issue number).

    How to Unsubscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List or Digest
    Mailing List
    To unsubscribe send email to Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    or Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    (depending on which version of the list you are subscribed to)
    with the body of the message containing:
    UNSUBSCRIBE


    Another popular mailing list is

    Bread-Bakers

    The bread-bakers digest and daily-bread mailing lists are for the
    free exchange of recipes and information related to any and all
    aspects of bread baking, by hand or by machine.
    http://www.bread-bakers.com/

    To join the bread-bakers mailing list, send mail to
    bread-bakers-request@lists.bread-bakers.com In the body of the
    message, place, in lower case with no indentation, the single word:

    subscribe

    This will subscribe you at the address that your message is sent
    from. This is almost certainly your correct address. Bestserv will
    send you a message asking you to confirm your subscription request.
    You must reply to the message changing the word REJECT in the
    subject to ACCEPT. You will get a confirmation when your
    subscription has been accepted. If you have problems subscribing,
    please write to us at bread-bakers-owner@lists.bread-bakers.com
    and we will assist you.

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    10 Other culinary FAQs (thank you to Damsel in dis Dress)

    ----------------------------------------
    10.1 Foods

    * ftp://ftp.michvhf.com/pub/rec.food.baking/FAQ
    (rec.food.baking FAQ, by B. Keith Ryder)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/sourdough/faq/preamble.html
    (rec.food.sourdough FAQ, maintained by Darrell Greenwood)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/index2.html#faq
    (Meat FAQs: Foie gras, Pig processing, Venison processing, Elk and
    caribou, Wagyu and Kobe beef; by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.macscouter.com/Cooking/DutchOven.html
    (Dutch oven cooking)

    * http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/index.html
    (BBQ FAQ, by William W. Wight)

    * http://www.bbqguide.com/meat_smoking_and_curing_faq.htm
    (Meat smoking and curing FAQ, maintained by Richard Thead)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/preserving/part1/
    (rec.food.preserving FAQ, maintained by Eric Decker)

    * http://edible-complex.home.att.net/faq-spices.html
    (Spices FAQ, by Daniel M. Germán)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/culinary-herbs/part1/
    (Culinary herbs FAQ, maintained by Henriette Kress)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/truffles.html
    (Truffles (fungi) FAQ, by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/chocolate/faq/
    (Chocolate FAQ, by Monee Kidd)

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    10.2 Beverages

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/caffeine-faq/
    (Coffee and caffeine FAQ, by Alex Lopez-Ortiz)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/tea/faq/
    (Tea FAQ, by Christopher Roberson)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/wine-faq/part1/
    (Wine FAQ, by Bradford S. Brown)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/crafts/winemaking-faq/
    (Winemaking FAQ, by Don Buchan)

    * http://www.beerinfo.com/rfdb/faq.html
    (Beer FAQ, by John A. Lock)

    * http://hbd.org/brewery/library/absfaq.html
    (Absinthe FAQ, by Matthew Baggott)

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    10.3 Religion, lifestyle and special diets

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/rfcj/kosherfaq.htm
    (Kosher food, by Pat Gold, Beth Greenfeld, and Ruth Heiges)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/vegetarian/faq/
    (rec.food.veg (vegetarian) FAQ, by Michael Traub)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/fatfree/faq/
    (Fat-free FAQ, by Michelle Dick)

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    10.4 Miscellaneous

    * http://FAQs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/cooking/common-topics
    (Commonly discussed topics, by Stephanie da Silva)

    * http://www.thepurplehouse.net/wedding/cookware.txt
    (Cookware FAQ, by Oliver Sharp)

    * http://www.sff.net/people/pff/sharp.txt
    (Knife FAQs: Plain vs. serrated edges, Knife sharpening,
    Steel types, by Joe Talmadge)

    * http://www.survival-center.com/foodfaq/ff1-toc.htm
    (Food storage FAQ, by Alan T. Hagan)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sci/food-science-faq/part1/
    (Food science FAQ, by Rachel Zemser, J. Ralph Blanchfield, and Paul
    King)

    ----------------------------------------
    10.5 Humour

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/kool-aid-faq/
    (Kool-Aid FAQ, by Paul and Bess Dawson-Schmidt)

    * http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/bofh-food-faq
    (bofh.food FAQ, by J.D. Falk)

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    11 "Unofficial" rec.food.cooking Web site

    Damsel in dis Dress used to maintain what many people regarded as the 'unofficial' rec.food.cooking site, with sections devoted to rfc chat,
    rfc 'signature' dishes, rfc cook-in reports, and rfc birthdays.
    Chatty Cathy is currently in charge of the site, which contains all of
    the above and more, particularly a link to the rfc map set up by
    Christine Dabney. The site is located at
    http://www.recfoodcooking.org

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    12 Sources

    Lots of wonderful people helped compile this list - again, much
    acknowledgement is due to Cindy Kandolf for putting this entire thing
    together and to Amy Gale for maintaining it and adding to it for many
    years.

    ----------------------------------------
    12.1 Contributors

    The other wonderful people are :

    carolynd(at)sail.labs.tek.com
    ekman(at)netc.om.com
    arielle(at)aronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
    rs7x+(at)andrew.cmu.edu
    jane(at)cse.lbl.gov
    jonog(at)g2syd.genasys.com.au anita(at)devvax.mincom.oz.au sbookey(at)ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey) ccd(at)ccdadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au pmmuggli(at)uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu chu(at)acsu.buffalo.edu cdfk(at)otter.hpl.hp.com dudek(at)ksr.com aem(at)symbiosis.ahp.com wald(at)theory.lcs.mit.edu harvey(at)indyvax.iupui.edu ed(at)pa.dec.com ndkj(at)vax5.cit.cornell.edu ekman(at)netc.om.com
    otten(at)icase.edu jane(at)cse.lbl.gov loosemore-sandra(at)cs.yale.edu mworley(at)mathcs.emory.edu kts(at)michael.udev.cdc.com cc(at)dcs.edinburgh.ac.uk leander(at)ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
    cduff(at)sugar.NeoSoft.COM
    lvirden(at)cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
    hammond(at)niwot.scd.ucar.EDU (Steve Hammond)
    dfw(at)thumper.bellcore.com (Doris Woods)
    gibbsm(at)ll.mit.edu (MargAret D Gibbs)
    rickert(at)cco.caltech.edu (Keith Warren Rickert)
    Simon Kershaw Simon.Kershaw(at)Smallworld.co.uk
    Joel Offenberg offenbrg(at)trifle.gsfc.nasa.gov
    grant(at)oj.rsmas.miami.edu (Grant Basham)
    lmak(at)cbnewsf.cb.att.com (louisa.l.mak)
    twain(at)carson.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin) hz225wu(at)unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Micaela Pantke)
    sfisher(at)megatest.com (Scott Fisher)
    byrne(at)rcf.rsmas.miami.edu (Charlie Byrne)
    jmk5u(at)Virginia.EDU
    bae(at)gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Beverly Erlebacher) rlwilliams(at)gallua.gallaudet.edu (Skip) hwalden(at)science-store.chem.wayne.edu (Heather Walden)
    mcenter(at)amoco.com (Mike Center, PSC)
    kevin(at)eye.com (Kevin Stokker)
    steven(at)surya.cs.ucla.edu (Steven Berson)
    eric.decker(at)canrem.com (Eric Decker)
    peteo(at)ford.wpd.sgi.com (Peter Orelup)
    sk10003(at)cus.cam.ac.uk (Scott Kleinman)
    David Casseres casseres(at)apple.com Ted.Taylor(at)p4214.f104.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Taylor)
    george(at)dfds.ml.com (George Minkovsky)
    Alison(at)moose.demon.co.uk (Alison Scott)
    jae(at)world.std.com (Jon A Edelston)
    conrad(at)qpsx.oz.au (Conrad Drake)
    nadel(at)attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel)
    patricia(at)cs.utexas.edu (Patricia M. Burson)
    betsey(at)columbia.edu (Elizabeth Fike)
    leah(at)smith.chi.il.us (Leah Smith)
    steve(at)unipalm.co.uk (Steve Ladlow)
    STEVE SKHNY(at)CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
    "Sudheer Apte" apte(at)loki.hks.com
    Diane Ferrell, Leslie Basel
    rankin(at)scubed.com (Tom Rankin)
    vev(at)msen.com (Vince Vielhaber)
    HUYQ78A(at)prodigy.com (MS PHYLLIS T SPAETH)
    lenf(at)netc.om.com (Len Freedman)
    apforz(at)pfood.win.net (Andy Pforzheimer)
    wnukoski(at)crypt.erie.ge.com (George Wnukoski)
    Dan_Masi(at)Warren.mentorg.com
    robinc(at)oanet.com (Robin Cowdrey)
    merlin(at)ion.com.au (Merlin Zener)
    "Frank Fileccia" surplus(at)telusplanet.net
    "Rodger Whitlock" totototo(at)mail.pacificcoast.net
    Damsel in dis Dress damsel.in.dis.dress(at)gmail.com
    Shankar Bhattacharyya sbhattac(at)idt.net
    Sophie Laplante laplante(at)lri.fr
    Andrew Nicholson andrewn(at)lesto.com
    Ed Keith edkeith(at)home.com
    Read rweaver(at)igc.org
    T. Terrell Banks terry(at)banks-usa.com
    William Chuang wchuang(at)MIT.EDU
    Scott Jordan sjordan(at)ntrnet.net
    Terry Simpson terry(at)connected-systems.com
    Bill Boylan bill.boylan(at)cox.net
    Max Hauser maxREMOVE(at)THIStdl.com
    Vilco a(at)b.invalid
    Lyndon Watson teile(at)clear.net.nz

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    12.2 Bibliography

    This is a new section composed of the acknowledgements previously
    sprinkled through the text. More information on these books will be
    welcomed.

    1) "Trolldom in the Kitchen"
    Pat Bjaaland and Melody Favish

    2) "Larousse Gastronomique"
    ISBN 0 7493 0316 6

    Larousse Gastronomique
    The New American Edition of the World's Greatest Culinary
    Encyclopedia
    By Jenifer Harvey Lang
    Hardcover, 1193 pages
    ISBN: 0517570327
    List Price: $60.00
    Random House
    Publication Date: 10/01/88

    3) "Still Life with Menu" (K)
    Mollie Katzen
    Revised trade paperback 1995
    Still Life with Menu Cookbook
    Trade Paperback, 256 Pages, Revised, Ten Speed, March 1995
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk)
    Author: Katzen, Mollie
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk.)

    Still Life With Menu Cookbook by Katzen, Mollie
    fifty new meatless menus with original art
    Berkeley, California, Ten Speed Press, 1988
    ISBN 0898152569

    4) "Cookery in Colour" (P)
    Marguerite Patten

    5) "The Rotation Diet" (RD)

    6) "My Fun-to-cook-book" (S)
    Ursula Sedgwick

    7) "The New Food Lover's Companion"

    8) "Michel Guérard's Cuisine Minceur"
    Michel Guérard

    9) "Mastering the Art of French Cooking"
    Julia Child

    10) "The Oxford Companion to Food"
    Alan Davidson

    11) "Julia and Jacques Cooking At Home"
    by Julia Child and Jacques Pépin

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    Clean the wok with hot water and some form of scrubbing tool. The
    bamboo things they sometimes include actually work or one can use a
    nylon scrubbing pad (no brillo, SOS, or equivalent). After the wok is
    cleaned, put it back on the burner for a few minutes to heat it up and evaporate any moisture. Then, add a little oil to it and rub it around
    with a paper towel to keep it shiny and from rusting with any moisture
    it may attract in between uses.

    Another thing, when you are done cooking in the wok, put some water in
    it to soak while you eat. Cleanup takes just a few work with a nylon
    scrubbing pad and some hot water.

    Taking good care of your cookware only requires a few minutes of time
    and makes it much easier to use and cleanup. Food doesn't stick to a
    well seasoned wok. If it starts to stick, scrub it well with something
    like an S.O.S. pad and re-season.

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    5.2 Cast Iron (thank you to Tom Rankin)

    Summary:
    Make sure your cast iron is clean down to bare metal.
    Coat with fat, heat, repeat.
    Look after by never washing in soapy water and scrubbing as little as
    possible.

    Details:

    Initial cleaning: get off all the packaging oil, burnt food or
    whatever the pan has on it. Some suggestions for achieving this are
    - Wash in hot soapy water, dry thoroughly
    - Boil undiluted white vinegar in the pan for while
    - Commercial beadblasting (not sandblasting)
    - Steel wool
    - Hot embers
    - Kosher salt baked in the pan at 500°F (260°C) for 4 hours and
    scraped out again
    - Put in self-cleaning oven and turn on clean cycle

    Fats to use: a solid vegetable fat, or lard. Oil is not as suitable.

    Seasoning process: Wipe pot inside and out with melted fat. Do the lid
    too (if it's cast iron). At this point, authorities seem to diverge.
    The common theme is "get it hot and keep it hot for considerably more
    than an hour" (optionally followed by "re-coat it with fat during the process"). Two hours at 350°F (175°C), re-wiping with fat every
    30 minutes, seems sensible.

    When this has been done, the seasoning process has been begun but not
    yet completed. The first few times the pan is used, it should be for
    fairly fatty foods. Fried eggs rather than tomato soup, for example.

    Each time the pan is used, rinse with hot water and scrub if necessary.
    Don't scour or use detergent - otherwise you will need to re-season.
    Some people coat their cast iron very lightly with oil after washing,
    then wipe out after an initial heating next time they use it.

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    6 History and Lore of rec.food.cooking

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    6.1 Origins of rec.food.cooking (thank you to Max Hauser)

    rec.food.cooking began as net.cooks, launched by friend and fellow food
    fanatic Steve Upstill in Berkeley in January 1982 with a posting on
    pragmatic pasta sauces, something Steve was then often cooking,
    including at my place. We were all cranking out a lot of fresh ribbon
    pasta with Atlas 150 (150mm) roller/cutter machines and we needed things
    to do with it. net.cooks became rec.food.cooking in the general Great
    Renaming (late 1986). Current Google archives show Steve's original
    29-Jan-82 posting, and also his 31-Jan-82 net.general announcement of net.cooks, "All about food, cooking, cookbooks, recipes and other
    alimentary effluvia." That was the "charter" of this newsgroup.
    (Discussions by the way using the specific language of newsgroup
    "charter" on net.cooks or rec.food.cooking don't appear until five years
    later in 1987, an exchange between Terry Sterkel, me, and Spafford,
    referring anyway to a different newsgroup.) Posted statistics also
    showed that net.cooks became popular immediately, one of the most
    popular newsgroups at the time. After the 1986 renaming, a Gene
    Spafford active-newsgroups list included rec.food.cooking with summary
    "Food, cooking, cookbooks, and recipes." Steve Upstill continued to
    contribute occasionally, and also to work on recipe-formatting software.
    I recall him commercializing a typesetting macro package ("-MU"), and
    recipe software for Mac platforms.

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    6.2 Some Higlights in the Life of rec.food.cooking

    - There have been quite a few rec.food.cooking cook-ins all over the
    USA, as well as a small one in Germany. The first one was hosted by
    Anne Bourget in Sacramento, California, in 1994.

    - Early in 1997, a rec.food.cooking T-shirt was produced, with the
    proceeds donated to charity. Some 220 T-shirts were sold to rfc'ers.

    - In 2002-3, a rec.food.cooking Cook.Book was published, also with the proceeds donated to charity (City Harvest, a NYC affiliate of Second
    Harvest) to help the victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. There were
    two printings, one late in 2002, the other early in 2003, and a total of
    about 740 copies were sold, also to rfc'ers.


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    6.3 What's all this about xxxx? (much of this section was copied
    verbatim from the rec.food.cooking MiniFAQ that the
    invaluable Amy Gale used to post - thank you, Amy)

    This section tries to cover a few of the most commonly confusing
    topics that may come up on the newsgroup.

    aluminium : has not been linked to Alzheimer's Disease in a
    reproducible experiment.

    Elbonia : a mythical country (probably in Eastern Europe). Comes
    from Scott Adams' "Dilbert", syndicated in newspapers and
    available at http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/

    Ingrid : Anne Bourget's Volvo, used for flattening chicken breasts.
    Now deceased, but the memory lives on.

    j/nghlm : a joke ingredient. Spelling varies.

    WWT : (Weekend With Tammy). Once upon a time, a long-time rfc
    poster named Tammy spent a weekend with another long-time
    poster who posted a long article describing their mainly
    food-related adventures. Some people took exception to
    that posting, complaining about the lack of recipes (which
    were posted separately). Many people now use the WWT
    acronym in the subject header to indicate a posting of
    similar nature.

    ObFood : 'obligatory food reference'. An old rfc tradition.
    Many people hold that, whenever one happens to post off
    topic, one is supposed to add something that has to do
    with food, ideally something that is actually interesting
    and/or useful.

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    7 This has come up once too often....

    This list is a (futile?) attempt to keep certain well-worn subjects from
    coming up yet again. Further suggestions always welcome.

    The $250 cookie recipe

    This recipe comes up often, usually here but also on other newsgroups
    (where it is even less appropriate). The story goes that a woman had a
    cookie at [usually Mrs. Field's or Neiman Marcus' cafe], and liked it
    so much she wanted the recipe. The clerk said "It will cost you
    two-fifty"; the woman thought that meant $2.50 and was shocked to find
    it meant $250. She is now spreading it to get revenge, since it was not returnable.

    There are a number of holes in the story, and no one has ever brought
    forth any evidence that it really happened. (If you want to argue that
    you know someone who knows someone who this really happened to, take it
    over to alt.folklore.urban, where they will proceed to have you for
    breakfast if you have no evidence.) More importantly, it has been
    posted more than enough times by now. Some people have tried the recipe
    and pronounced it good, but it ain't Mrs. Field's. If you would like
    the recipe, ask for someone to mail it to you.

    It has been pointed out to me that the recipe is in the standard source distribution for GNU Emacs and XEmacs. If your site has that source,
    look in the "etc" directory for a file named COOKIES.

    Most importantly, please DO NOT post it any more. There is also a Mrs
    Fields cookbook, published by Time-Life. This has recipes, but not the
    exact ones for the ones sold in the stores, as those recipes are not
    well suited to home baking.

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    8 Recipe archives and other cooking/food sites

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    8.1 Recipe archives

    There are hundreds, if not thousands, of recipe archives on the net.
    Here are some of the more popular and larger ones.

    * http://recipes.alastra.com/
    The official rec.food.recipes archive, maintained by Stephanie da
    Silva.

    * http://www.lysator.liu.se/etexts/recept/us/main.html
    Usenet Cookbook, a collection of old alt.gourmand recipes.

    * http://www.recipesource.com/
    SOAR - Searchable Online Archive of Recipes.

    * http://www.ichef.com/ichef-recipes/

    * http://www.cs.cmu.edu/%7Emjw/recipes/
    Amy Gale's recipe archives.

    * http://recipes.wenzel.net/
    RecipeLand.com's archive with 25000+ recipes.

    * http://www.astray.com/recipes/
    A searchable database of 76,000+ recipes, maintained by Leon
    Brocard.

    * http://www.recipecenter.com
    100,000+ recipes.

    * http://allrecipes.com/
    A large, searchable recipe archive.

    * http://home.uni-one.nl/the-cooking-page/
    The Cooking Page. Numerous recipe links classified by language
    (English, French, German, Dutch), by food course, and by cuisine.

    * http://www.oingo.com/topic/14/14336.html
    A well designed and functional searchable database of thousands of
    food and recipe links.

    * http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/topics/cook.htm
    Ancient and medieval recipes, and cooking and food links.

    * http://www.ajlc.waterloo.on.ca/Recipes/index.html
    A very large, meticulous index of recipes, with a search engine.

    * http://www.cdkitchen.com/
    A comprehensive cooking Web site with over 200,000 recipes,
    including a rec.food.recipes archive. By Valerie Whitmore.

    * http://www.lingualearn.co.uk/food.htm
    A collection of links to recipes, etc. of varius countries.

    * "http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm
    A Boke of Gode Cookery. A collection of Medieval recipes by James
    Matterer.

    * Copycat recipes or links to them are often requested on rfc. Two of
    the better known sites with such recipes are
    http://www.copykat.com
    and
    http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/.

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    8.2 Other cooking/food sites

    * http://www.epicurious.com/
    A general food site with a dictionary (THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION,
    by Sharon Tyler Herbst), recipes from well-known food magazines,
    etc.

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/
    Mimi's Cyber Kitchen, a general food site maintained by Mimi
    Hiller.

    * http://www-ang.kfunigraz.ac.at/~katzer/engl/index.html
    Gernot Katzer's Spice Pages, a Web spice encyclopedia, by Gernot
    Katzer.

    * http://www.foodsubs.com/ (and numerous mirrors)
    The Cook's Thesaurus. By Lori Alden. Suggests substitutions for
    thousands of cooking ingredients.

    * http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Island/3012/glossary.htm
    An A-Z glossary of Indian spices and cooking terms.

    * http://www.EuropeanCuisines.com/
    and
    http://www.owlsprings.com/the_balti_page/
    "European Cuisines" and "The Balti Page".
    By Peter Morwood & Diane Duane.

    * http://www.virtualquincy.com/quincy/recreation/recipes.html
    Directory listing of over 375 recipe and cooking websites.

    * http://www.reluctantgourmet.com/
    Cooking guide for beginner cooks.

    * http://labsoftware.com/cookbook/default.htm
    "Cooking for Graduate Students and and other beginning Kitchen
    Dwellers".

    * http://vsack.homepage.t-online.de/afa_faq.html
    Links to sites related to Asian food and cooking, as posted
    regularly to alt.food.asian by blacksalt.

    * http://www.whatscookingamerica.net/Glossary/GlossaryIndex2.htm
    Linda's Culinary Dictionary. By Linda Stradley. A listing and
    history of cooking, food, and beverage terms.

    * http://www.todine.net/dictionary.html
    Italian-English-French-Spanish-German Gastronomical Dictionary.

    * http://www.xs4all.nl/~margjos/
    English-French-German-Danish-Dutch food dictionary. By Jos and
    Marg Sparreboom.

    * http://www.theepicentre.com/glossary.html
    A glossary of spices, etc.

    * http://www.soupsong.com/ifoodta.html
    "Food tales, or everything you always wanted to know about the
    migration and lore of food."

    * http://www.breadworld.com/canada/tips/glossary/glossary.asp
    A glossary of baking terms maintained by Fleischmann's Yeast, a
    commercial entity.

    * http://www.mhr-viandes.com/en/docu/docu/d9000003.htm
    Multilingual meat and poultry glossaries.

    * http://www.aboutproduce.com/
    Recipes, nutrition info, selection tips for vegetables, fruits, nuts
    and herbs. By the Produce Marketing Association.

    * http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/rfe0.html
    Comprehensive, illustrated fish encylopaedia. An FDA resource.

    * http://navigator.tufts.edu/
    Tufts University Nutrition Navigator. Reviews and rating of
    nutrition information Web sites.

    * http://food.oregonstate.edu/glossary/all.html
    Science of Foods Glossary.

    * http://www.cahe.nmsu.edu/pubs/_e/e-131.pdf
    In A Pinch - Ingredient Substitution, a PDF file.

    * http://www.thousandeggs.com/cookbooks.html
    Links to old culinary & brewing documents online, by Cindy Renfrow.

    * http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/egg/fdnews.html
    A humongous list of culinary newsletters, magazines and journals.

    * http://www.azcentral.com/home/cooking101/
    Cooking 101.

    * http://www.gortons.com/cookbook/
    Gorton's fisherman's cookbook and fish glossary.

    * http://www.pipeline.com/~rosskat/
    A wealth of culinary information, resources, recipes, etc. on a
    rather disorganised site.

    * http://members.aol.com/Jwmike101/home.html
    Culinary resource desk. Lots of useful links.

    * http://www.psgrill.net/Encyclopedia/ENCYCLOPEDIA.html
    Large, useful food dictionary (but with some annoying
    mistranslations and misspellings).

    * http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/glossary/
    BBC's food glossary.

    * http://www.calacademy.org/research/anthropology/utensil/
    The History of Eating Utensils.

    * http://www.astaspice.org/history/history_main.htm
    ASTA's World of Spice - The history of the Spice Trade. By The
    American Spice Trade Association.

    * http://www.usmef.org/TradeLibrary/InternationalMeatManual.asp
    International Meat Manual. Corn-fed beef, grass-fed beef, veal,
    pork and lamb. In English, Japanese, Korean, Mandarin Chinese and
    Spanish. By the U.S. Meat Export Federation.

    * http://www.carnegielibrary.org/subject/food/
    Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh -- comprehensive Food and Cooking
    resource guide

    * http://www.bakingbusiness.com/refbook.asp
    The Encyclopedia of Baking offers reference, formulations and
    troubleshooting for common baking ingredients.

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    9 Food newsgroups and mailing lists

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    9.1 rec.food.cooking

    a.k.a. us: A group for the discussion of cooking in general. Recipes
    and requests for recipes are welcome here, as are discussions of cooking techniques, equipment, etc. In short, if it has to do with cooking, it probably belongs here - though that doesn't mean it doesn't belong
    somewhere else, too!

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    9.2 rec.food.recipes

    A moderated newsgroup for recipes and requests for recipes. Each week a
    FAQ explains how to post recipes or requests. The lead moderator is
    Tracy Carman, <recipes@swcp.com>.
    The rfr moderators' software automatically sets followups to rfc.
    The reason is, no discussion is allowed in rfr - only recipes or
    requests for same. Since some people might wish to publicly discuss
    posted recipes notwithstanding, followups to rfc serve a useful purpose.

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    9.3 rec.food.drink, rec.food.drink.beer, rec.food.drink.tea,
    rec.food.restaurants, rec.food.drink.coffee
    rec.food.sourdough, rec.food.historic

    Pretty self-explanatory.

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    9.4 rec.food.veg

    About vegetarianism. It also has its own FAQ list, with questions about
    the myths and truths of the vegetarian diet, information on where to get "cruelty-free" products, etc.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.5 rec.food.veg.cooking

    A moderated version of rec.food.veg

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    9.6 rec.food.preserving

    "Rec.food.preserving is a newsgroup devoted to the discussion of
    recipes, equipment, and techniques of food preservation. Current food preservation techniques that rightly should be discussed in this forum
    include canning, freezing, dehydration, pickling, smoking, salting,
    distilling, and potting. Foodstuffs are defined as produce (both fruits
    and vegetables), meat, fish, dairy products, culinary and medicinal
    herbs. Discussions should be limited to home-grown or home-preserved
    foods." (From the rec.food.preserving FAQ)

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    9.7 also...

    rec.crafts.winemaking
    rec.crafts.brewing
    alt.food
    alt.food.wine
    alt.coffee
    alt.food.asian
    alt.food.fat-free
    alt.food.low-fat
    alt.bacchus
    alt.food.mcdonalds (an oxymoron if ever I heard one)
    alt.food.coca-cola (mmmm....coca cola...)
    alt.food.chocolate
    alt.food.taco.bell
    alt.creative-cook
    alt.creative-cooking
    alt.cooking-chat
    alt.food.barbecue
    alt.2eggs.sausage.beans.tomatoes.2toast.largetea.cheerslove alt.food.mexican-cooking
    alt.food.sushi

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    9.8 mailing lists

    A very popular mailing list is

    Chile-Heads

    Purpose: The Chile-Heads list is intended to provide a forum
    for discussion of matters relating to chile peppers; including,
    but not limited to:

    o Growing peppers
    o Seed and plant sources
    o Exchanges of seeds/plants/pods/etc.
    o Exotic varieties
    o Storing and preserving chiles
    o Recipes using chiles
    o Other related posts

    http://globalgarden.com/Chile-Heads/list_info.phtml

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List
    All messages posted to the list are emailed immediately to
    everyone on the list.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List
    The digest will save all email messages posted to the list for
    the day and send in one email message.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from
    ftp.globalgarden.com, in pub/Chile-Heads/digest/vNN.nMMM
    (where "NN" is the volume number, and "MMM" is the issue number).

    How to Unsubscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List or Digest
    Mailing List
    To unsubscribe send email to Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    or Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    (depending on which version of the list you are subscribed to)
    with the body of the message containing:
    UNSUBSCRIBE


    Another popular mailing list is

    Bread-Bakers

    The bread-bakers digest and daily-bread mailing lists are for the
    free exchange of recipes and information related to any and all
    aspects of bread baking, by hand or by machine.
    http://www.bread-bakers.com/

    To join the bread-bakers mailing list, send mail to
    bread-bakers-request@lists.bread-bakers.com In the body of the
    message, place, in lower case with no indentation, the single word:

    subscribe

    This will subscribe you at the address that your message is sent
    from. This is almost certainly your correct address. Bestserv will
    send you a message asking you to confirm your subscription request.
    You must reply to the message changing the word REJECT in the
    subject to ACCEPT. You will get a confirmation when your
    subscription has been accepted. If you have problems subscribing,
    please write to us at bread-bakers-owner@lists.bread-bakers.com
    and we will assist you.

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    10 Other culinary FAQs (thank you to Damsel in dis Dress)

    ----------------------------------------
    10.1 Foods

    * ftp://ftp.michvhf.com/pub/rec.food.baking/FAQ
    (rec.food.baking FAQ, by B. Keith Ryder)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/sourdough/faq/preamble.html
    (rec.food.sourdough FAQ, maintained by Darrell Greenwood)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/index2.html#faq
    (Meat FAQs: Foie gras, Pig processing, Venison processing, Elk and
    caribou, Wagyu and Kobe beef; by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.macscouter.com/Cooking/DutchOven.html
    (Dutch oven cooking)

    * http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/index.html
    (BBQ FAQ, by William W. Wight)

    * http://www.bbqguide.com/meat_smoking_and_curing_faq.htm
    (Meat smoking and curing FAQ, maintained by Richard Thead)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/preserving/part1/
    (rec.food.preserving FAQ, maintained by Eric Decker)

    * http://edible-complex.home.att.net/faq-spices.html
    (Spices FAQ, by Daniel M. Germán)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/culinary-herbs/part1/
    (Culinary herbs FAQ, maintained by Henriette Kress)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/truffles.html
    (Truffles (fungi) FAQ, by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/chocolate/faq/
    (Chocolate FAQ, by Monee Kidd)

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    10.2 Beverages

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/caffeine-faq/
    (Coffee and caffeine FAQ, by Alex Lopez-Ortiz)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/tea/faq/
    (Tea FAQ, by Christopher Roberson)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/wine-faq/part1/
    (Wine FAQ, by Bradford S. Brown)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/crafts/winemaking-faq/
    (Winemaking FAQ, by Don Buchan)

    * http://www.beerinfo.com/rfdb/faq.html
    (Beer FAQ, by John A. Lock)

    * http://hbd.org/brewery/library/absfaq.html
    (Absinthe FAQ, by Matthew Baggott)

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    10.3 Religion, lifestyle and special diets

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/rfcj/kosherfaq.htm
    (Kosher food, by Pat Gold, Beth Greenfeld, and Ruth Heiges)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/vegetarian/faq/
    (rec.food.veg (vegetarian) FAQ, by Michael Traub)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/fatfree/faq/
    (Fat-free FAQ, by Michelle Dick)

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    10.4 Miscellaneous

    * http://FAQs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/cooking/common-topics
    (Commonly discussed topics, by Stephanie da Silva)

    * http://www.thepurplehouse.net/wedding/cookware.txt
    (Cookware FAQ, by Oliver Sharp)

    * http://www.sff.net/people/pff/sharp.txt
    (Knife FAQs: Plain vs. serrated edges, Knife sharpening,
    Steel types, by Joe Talmadge)

    * http://www.survival-center.com/foodfaq/ff1-toc.htm
    (Food storage FAQ, by Alan T. Hagan)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sci/food-science-faq/part1/
    (Food science FAQ, by Rachel Zemser, J. Ralph Blanchfield, and Paul
    King)

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    10.5 Humour

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/kool-aid-faq/
    (Kool-Aid FAQ, by Paul and Bess Dawson-Schmidt)

    * http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/bofh-food-faq
    (bofh.food FAQ, by J.D. Falk)

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    11 "Unofficial" rec.food.cooking Web site

    Damsel in dis Dress used to maintain what many people regarded as the 'unofficial' rec.food.cooking site, with sections devoted to rfc chat,
    rfc 'signature' dishes, rfc cook-in reports, and rfc birthdays.
    Chatty Cathy is currently in charge of the site, which contains all of
    the above and more, particularly a link to the rfc map set up by
    Christine Dabney. The site is located at
    http://www.recfoodcooking.org

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    12 Sources

    Lots of wonderful people helped compile this list - again, much
    acknowledgement is due to Cindy Kandolf for putting this entire thing
    together and to Amy Gale for maintaining it and adding to it for many
    years.

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    12.1 Contributors

    The other wonderful people are :

    carolynd(at)sail.labs.tek.com
    ekman(at)netc.om.com
    arielle(at)aronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
    rs7x+(at)andrew.cmu.edu
    jane(at)cse.lbl.gov
    jonog(at)g2syd.genasys.com.au anita(at)devvax.mincom.oz.au sbookey(at)ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey) ccd(at)ccdadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au pmmuggli(at)uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu chu(at)acsu.buffalo.edu cdfk(at)otter.hpl.hp.com dudek(at)ksr.com aem(at)symbiosis.ahp.com wald(at)theory.lcs.mit.edu harvey(at)indyvax.iupui.edu ed(at)pa.dec.com ndkj(at)vax5.cit.cornell.edu ekman(at)netc.om.com
    otten(at)icase.edu jane(at)cse.lbl.gov loosemore-sandra(at)cs.yale.edu mworley(at)mathcs.emory.edu kts(at)michael.udev.cdc.com cc(at)dcs.edinburgh.ac.uk leander(at)ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
    cduff(at)sugar.NeoSoft.COM
    lvirden(at)cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
    hammond(at)niwot.scd.ucar.EDU (Steve Hammond)
    dfw(at)thumper.bellcore.com (Doris Woods)
    gibbsm(at)ll.mit.edu (MargAret D Gibbs)
    rickert(at)cco.caltech.edu (Keith Warren Rickert)
    Simon Kershaw Simon.Kershaw(at)Smallworld.co.uk
    Joel Offenberg offenbrg(at)trifle.gsfc.nasa.gov
    grant(at)oj.rsmas.miami.edu (Grant Basham)
    lmak(at)cbnewsf.cb.att.com (louisa.l.mak)
    twain(at)carson.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin) hz225wu(at)unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Micaela Pantke)
    sfisher(at)megatest.com (Scott Fisher)
    byrne(at)rcf.rsmas.miami.edu (Charlie Byrne)
    jmk5u(at)Virginia.EDU
    bae(at)gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Beverly Erlebacher) rlwilliams(at)gallua.gallaudet.edu (Skip) hwalden(at)science-store.chem.wayne.edu (Heather Walden)
    mcenter(at)amoco.com (Mike Center, PSC)
    kevin(at)eye.com (Kevin Stokker)
    steven(at)surya.cs.ucla.edu (Steven Berson)
    eric.decker(at)canrem.com (Eric Decker)
    peteo(at)ford.wpd.sgi.com (Peter Orelup)
    sk10003(at)cus.cam.ac.uk (Scott Kleinman)
    David Casseres casseres(at)apple.com Ted.Taylor(at)p4214.f104.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Taylor)
    george(at)dfds.ml.com (George Minkovsky)
    Alison(at)moose.demon.co.uk (Alison Scott)
    jae(at)world.std.com (Jon A Edelston)
    conrad(at)qpsx.oz.au (Conrad Drake)
    nadel(at)attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel)
    patricia(at)cs.utexas.edu (Patricia M. Burson)
    betsey(at)columbia.edu (Elizabeth Fike)
    leah(at)smith.chi.il.us (Leah Smith)
    steve(at)unipalm.co.uk (Steve Ladlow)
    STEVE SKHNY(at)CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
    "Sudheer Apte" apte(at)loki.hks.com
    Diane Ferrell, Leslie Basel
    rankin(at)scubed.com (Tom Rankin)
    vev(at)msen.com (Vince Vielhaber)
    HUYQ78A(at)prodigy.com (MS PHYLLIS T SPAETH)
    lenf(at)netc.om.com (Len Freedman)
    apforz(at)pfood.win.net (Andy Pforzheimer)
    wnukoski(at)crypt.erie.ge.com (George Wnukoski)
    Dan_Masi(at)Warren.mentorg.com
    robinc(at)oanet.com (Robin Cowdrey)
    merlin(at)ion.com.au (Merlin Zener)
    "Frank Fileccia" surplus(at)telusplanet.net
    "Rodger Whitlock" totototo(at)mail.pacificcoast.net
    Damsel in dis Dress damsel.in.dis.dress(at)gmail.com
    Shankar Bhattacharyya sbhattac(at)idt.net
    Sophie Laplante laplante(at)lri.fr
    Andrew Nicholson andrewn(at)lesto.com
    Ed Keith edkeith(at)home.com
    Read rweaver(at)igc.org
    T. Terrell Banks terry(at)banks-usa.com
    William Chuang wchuang(at)MIT.EDU
    Scott Jordan sjordan(at)ntrnet.net
    Terry Simpson terry(at)connected-systems.com
    Bill Boylan bill.boylan(at)cox.net
    Max Hauser maxREMOVE(at)THIStdl.com
    Vilco a(at)b.invalid
    Lyndon Watson teile(at)clear.net.nz

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    12.2 Bibliography

    This is a new section composed of the acknowledgements previously
    sprinkled through the text. More information on these books will be
    welcomed.

    1) "Trolldom in the Kitchen"
    Pat Bjaaland and Melody Favish

    2) "Larousse Gastronomique"
    ISBN 0 7493 0316 6

    Larousse Gastronomique
    The New American Edition of the World's Greatest Culinary
    Encyclopedia
    By Jenifer Harvey Lang
    Hardcover, 1193 pages
    ISBN: 0517570327
    List Price: $60.00
    Random House
    Publication Date: 10/01/88

    3) "Still Life with Menu" (K)
    Mollie Katzen
    Revised trade paperback 1995
    Still Life with Menu Cookbook
    Trade Paperback, 256 Pages, Revised, Ten Speed, March 1995
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk)
    Author: Katzen, Mollie
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk.)

    Still Life With Menu Cookbook by Katzen, Mollie
    fifty new meatless menus with original art
    Berkeley, California, Ten Speed Press, 1988
    ISBN 0898152569

    4) "Cookery in Colour" (P)
    Marguerite Patten

    5) "The Rotation Diet" (RD)

    6) "My Fun-to-cook-book" (S)
    Ursula Sedgwick

    7) "The New Food Lover's Companion"

    8) "Michel Guérard's Cuisine Minceur"
    Michel Guérard

    9) "Mastering the Art of French Cooking"
    Julia Child

    10) "The Oxford Companion to Food"
    Alan Davidson

    11) "Julia and Jacques Cooking At Home"
    by Julia Child and Jacques Pépin

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    Clean the wok with hot water and some form of scrubbing tool. The
    bamboo things they sometimes include actually work or one can use a
    nylon scrubbing pad (no brillo, SOS, or equivalent). After the wok is
    cleaned, put it back on the burner for a few minutes to heat it up and evaporate any moisture. Then, add a little oil to it and rub it around
    with a paper towel to keep it shiny and from rusting with any moisture
    it may attract in between uses.

    Another thing, when you are done cooking in the wok, put some water in
    it to soak while you eat. Cleanup takes just a few work with a nylon
    scrubbing pad and some hot water.

    Taking good care of your cookware only requires a few minutes of time
    and makes it much easier to use and cleanup. Food doesn't stick to a
    well seasoned wok. If it starts to stick, scrub it well with something
    like an S.O.S. pad and re-season.

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    5.2 Cast Iron (thank you to Tom Rankin)

    Summary:
    Make sure your cast iron is clean down to bare metal.
    Coat with fat, heat, repeat.
    Look after by never washing in soapy water and scrubbing as little as
    possible.

    Details:

    Initial cleaning: get off all the packaging oil, burnt food or
    whatever the pan has on it. Some suggestions for achieving this are
    - Wash in hot soapy water, dry thoroughly
    - Boil undiluted white vinegar in the pan for while
    - Commercial beadblasting (not sandblasting)
    - Steel wool
    - Hot embers
    - Kosher salt baked in the pan at 500°F (260°C) for 4 hours and
    scraped out again
    - Put in self-cleaning oven and turn on clean cycle

    Fats to use: a solid vegetable fat, or lard. Oil is not as suitable.

    Seasoning process: Wipe pot inside and out with melted fat. Do the lid
    too (if it's cast iron). At this point, authorities seem to diverge.
    The common theme is "get it hot and keep it hot for considerably more
    than an hour" (optionally followed by "re-coat it with fat during the process"). Two hours at 350°F (175°C), re-wiping with fat every
    30 minutes, seems sensible.

    When this has been done, the seasoning process has been begun but not
    yet completed. The first few times the pan is used, it should be for
    fairly fatty foods. Fried eggs rather than tomato soup, for example.

    Each time the pan is used, rinse with hot water and scrub if necessary.
    Don't scour or use detergent - otherwise you will need to re-season.
    Some people coat their cast iron very lightly with oil after washing,
    then wipe out after an initial heating next time they use it.

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    6 History and Lore of rec.food.cooking

    ----------------------------------------
    6.1 Origins of rec.food.cooking (thank you to Max Hauser)

    rec.food.cooking began as net.cooks, launched by friend and fellow food
    fanatic Steve Upstill in Berkeley in January 1982 with a posting on
    pragmatic pasta sauces, something Steve was then often cooking,
    including at my place. We were all cranking out a lot of fresh ribbon
    pasta with Atlas 150 (150mm) roller/cutter machines and we needed things
    to do with it. net.cooks became rec.food.cooking in the general Great
    Renaming (late 1986). Current Google archives show Steve's original
    29-Jan-82 posting, and also his 31-Jan-82 net.general announcement of net.cooks, "All about food, cooking, cookbooks, recipes and other
    alimentary effluvia." That was the "charter" of this newsgroup.
    (Discussions by the way using the specific language of newsgroup
    "charter" on net.cooks or rec.food.cooking don't appear until five years
    later in 1987, an exchange between Terry Sterkel, me, and Spafford,
    referring anyway to a different newsgroup.) Posted statistics also
    showed that net.cooks became popular immediately, one of the most
    popular newsgroups at the time. After the 1986 renaming, a Gene
    Spafford active-newsgroups list included rec.food.cooking with summary
    "Food, cooking, cookbooks, and recipes." Steve Upstill continued to
    contribute occasionally, and also to work on recipe-formatting software.
    I recall him commercializing a typesetting macro package ("-MU"), and
    recipe software for Mac platforms.

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    6.2 Some Higlights in the Life of rec.food.cooking

    - There have been quite a few rec.food.cooking cook-ins all over the
    USA, as well as a small one in Germany. The first one was hosted by
    Anne Bourget in Sacramento, California, in 1994.

    - Early in 1997, a rec.food.cooking T-shirt was produced, with the
    proceeds donated to charity. Some 220 T-shirts were sold to rfc'ers.

    - In 2002-3, a rec.food.cooking Cook.Book was published, also with the proceeds donated to charity (City Harvest, a NYC affiliate of Second
    Harvest) to help the victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. There were
    two printings, one late in 2002, the other early in 2003, and a total of
    about 740 copies were sold, also to rfc'ers.


    ----------------------------------------
    6.3 What's all this about xxxx? (much of this section was copied
    verbatim from the rec.food.cooking MiniFAQ that the
    invaluable Amy Gale used to post - thank you, Amy)

    This section tries to cover a few of the most commonly confusing
    topics that may come up on the newsgroup.

    aluminium : has not been linked to Alzheimer's Disease in a
    reproducible experiment.

    Elbonia : a mythical country (probably in Eastern Europe). Comes
    from Scott Adams' "Dilbert", syndicated in newspapers and
    available at http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/

    Ingrid : Anne Bourget's Volvo, used for flattening chicken breasts.
    Now deceased, but the memory lives on.

    j/nghlm : a joke ingredient. Spelling varies.

    WWT : (Weekend With Tammy). Once upon a time, a long-time rfc
    poster named Tammy spent a weekend with another long-time
    poster who posted a long article describing their mainly
    food-related adventures. Some people took exception to
    that posting, complaining about the lack of recipes (which
    were posted separately). Many people now use the WWT
    acronym in the subject header to indicate a posting of
    similar nature.

    ObFood : 'obligatory food reference'. An old rfc tradition.
    Many people hold that, whenever one happens to post off
    topic, one is supposed to add something that has to do
    with food, ideally something that is actually interesting
    and/or useful.

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    7 This has come up once too often....

    This list is a (futile?) attempt to keep certain well-worn subjects from
    coming up yet again. Further suggestions always welcome.

    The $250 cookie recipe

    This recipe comes up often, usually here but also on other newsgroups
    (where it is even less appropriate). The story goes that a woman had a
    cookie at [usually Mrs. Field's or Neiman Marcus' cafe], and liked it
    so much she wanted the recipe. The clerk said "It will cost you
    two-fifty"; the woman thought that meant $2.50 and was shocked to find
    it meant $250. She is now spreading it to get revenge, since it was not returnable.

    There are a number of holes in the story, and no one has ever brought
    forth any evidence that it really happened. (If you want to argue that
    you know someone who knows someone who this really happened to, take it
    over to alt.folklore.urban, where they will proceed to have you for
    breakfast if you have no evidence.) More importantly, it has been
    posted more than enough times by now. Some people have tried the recipe
    and pronounced it good, but it ain't Mrs. Field's. If you would like
    the recipe, ask for someone to mail it to you.

    It has been pointed out to me that the recipe is in the standard source distribution for GNU Emacs and XEmacs. If your site has that source,
    look in the "etc" directory for a file named COOKIES.

    Most importantly, please DO NOT post it any more. There is also a Mrs
    Fields cookbook, published by Time-Life. This has recipes, but not the
    exact ones for the ones sold in the stores, as those recipes are not
    well suited to home baking.

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    8 Recipe archives and other cooking/food sites

    ----------------------------------------
    8.1 Recipe archives

    There are hundreds, if not thousands, of recipe archives on the net.
    Here are some of the more popular and larger ones.

    * http://recipes.alastra.com/
    The official rec.food.recipes archive, maintained by Stephanie da
    Silva.

    * http://www.lysator.liu.se/etexts/recept/us/main.html
    Usenet Cookbook, a collection of old alt.gourmand recipes.

    * http://www.recipesource.com/
    SOAR - Searchable Online Archive of Recipes.

    * http://www.ichef.com/ichef-recipes/

    * http://www.cs.cmu.edu/%7Emjw/recipes/
    Amy Gale's recipe archives.

    * http://recipes.wenzel.net/
    RecipeLand.com's archive with 25000+ recipes.

    * http://www.astray.com/recipes/
    A searchable database of 76,000+ recipes, maintained by Leon
    Brocard.

    * http://www.recipecenter.com
    100,000+ recipes.

    * http://allrecipes.com/
    A large, searchable recipe archive.

    * http://home.uni-one.nl/the-cooking-page/
    The Cooking Page. Numerous recipe links classified by language
    (English, French, German, Dutch), by food course, and by cuisine.

    * http://www.oingo.com/topic/14/14336.html
    A well designed and functional searchable database of thousands of
    food and recipe links.

    * http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/topics/cook.htm
    Ancient and medieval recipes, and cooking and food links.

    * http://www.ajlc.waterloo.on.ca/Recipes/index.html
    A very large, meticulous index of recipes, with a search engine.

    * http://www.cdkitchen.com/
    A comprehensive cooking Web site with over 200,000 recipes,
    including a rec.food.recipes archive. By Valerie Whitmore.

    * http://www.lingualearn.co.uk/food.htm
    A collection of links to recipes, etc. of varius countries.

    * "http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm
    A Boke of Gode Cookery. A collection of Medieval recipes by James
    Matterer.

    * Copycat recipes or links to them are often requested on rfc. Two of
    the better known sites with such recipes are
    http://www.copykat.com
    and
    http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/.

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    8.2 Other cooking/food sites

    * http://www.epicurious.com/
    A general food site with a dictionary (THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION,
    by Sharon Tyler Herbst), recipes from well-known food magazines,
    etc.

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/
    Mimi's Cyber Kitchen, a general food site maintained by Mimi
    Hiller.

    * http://www-ang.kfunigraz.ac.at/~katzer/engl/index.html
    Gernot Katzer's Spice Pages, a Web spice encyclopedia, by Gernot
    Katzer.

    * http://www.foodsubs.com/ (and numerous mirrors)
    The Cook's Thesaurus. By Lori Alden. Suggests substitutions for
    thousands of cooking ingredients.

    * http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Island/3012/glossary.htm
    An A-Z glossary of Indian spices and cooking terms.

    * http://www.EuropeanCuisines.com/
    and
    http://www.owlsprings.com/the_balti_page/
    "European Cuisines" and "The Balti Page".
    By Peter Morwood & Diane Duane.

    * http://www.virtualquincy.com/quincy/recreation/recipes.html
    Directory listing of over 375 recipe and cooking websites.

    * http://www.reluctantgourmet.com/
    Cooking guide for beginner cooks.

    * http://labsoftware.com/cookbook/default.htm
    "Cooking for Graduate Students and and other beginning Kitchen
    Dwellers".

    * http://vsack.homepage.t-online.de/afa_faq.html
    Links to sites related to Asian food and cooking, as posted
    regularly to alt.food.asian by blacksalt.

    * http://www.whatscookingamerica.net/Glossary/GlossaryIndex2.htm
    Linda's Culinary Dictionary. By Linda Stradley. A listing and
    history of cooking, food, and beverage terms.

    * http://www.todine.net/dictionary.html
    Italian-English-French-Spanish-German Gastronomical Dictionary.

    * http://www.xs4all.nl/~margjos/
    English-French-German-Danish-Dutch food dictionary. By Jos and
    Marg Sparreboom.

    * http://www.theepicentre.com/glossary.html
    A glossary of spices, etc.

    * http://www.soupsong.com/ifoodta.html
    "Food tales, or everything you always wanted to know about the
    migration and lore of food."

    * http://www.breadworld.com/canada/tips/glossary/glossary.asp
    A glossary of baking terms maintained by Fleischmann's Yeast, a
    commercial entity.

    * http://www.mhr-viandes.com/en/docu/docu/d9000003.htm
    Multilingual meat and poultry glossaries.

    * http://www.aboutproduce.com/
    Recipes, nutrition info, selection tips for vegetables, fruits, nuts
    and herbs. By the Produce Marketing Association.

    * http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/rfe0.html
    Comprehensive, illustrated fish encylopaedia. An FDA resource.

    * http://navigator.tufts.edu/
    Tufts University Nutrition Navigator. Reviews and rating of
    nutrition information Web sites.

    * http://food.oregonstate.edu/glossary/all.html
    Science of Foods Glossary.

    * http://www.cahe.nmsu.edu/pubs/_e/e-131.pdf
    In A Pinch - Ingredient Substitution, a PDF file.

    * http://www.thousandeggs.com/cookbooks.html
    Links to old culinary & brewing documents online, by Cindy Renfrow.

    * http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/egg/fdnews.html
    A humongous list of culinary newsletters, magazines and journals.

    * http://www.azcentral.com/home/cooking101/
    Cooking 101.

    * http://www.gortons.com/cookbook/
    Gorton's fisherman's cookbook and fish glossary.

    * http://www.pipeline.com/~rosskat/
    A wealth of culinary information, resources, recipes, etc. on a
    rather disorganised site.

    * http://members.aol.com/Jwmike101/home.html
    Culinary resource desk. Lots of useful links.

    * http://www.psgrill.net/Encyclopedia/ENCYCLOPEDIA.html
    Large, useful food dictionary (but with some annoying
    mistranslations and misspellings).

    * http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/glossary/
    BBC's food glossary.

    * http://www.calacademy.org/research/anthropology/utensil/
    The History of Eating Utensils.

    * http://www.astaspice.org/history/history_main.htm
    ASTA's World of Spice - The history of the Spice Trade. By The
    American Spice Trade Association.

    * http://www.usmef.org/TradeLibrary/InternationalMeatManual.asp
    International Meat Manual. Corn-fed beef, grass-fed beef, veal,
    pork and lamb. In English, Japanese, Korean, Mandarin Chinese and
    Spanish. By the U.S. Meat Export Federation.

    * http://www.carnegielibrary.org/subject/food/
    Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh -- comprehensive Food and Cooking
    resource guide

    * http://www.bakingbusiness.com/refbook.asp
    The Encyclopedia of Baking offers reference, formulations and
    troubleshooting for common baking ingredients.

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    9 Food newsgroups and mailing lists

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    9.1 rec.food.cooking

    a.k.a. us: A group for the discussion of cooking in general. Recipes
    and requests for recipes are welcome here, as are discussions of cooking techniques, equipment, etc. In short, if it has to do with cooking, it probably belongs here - though that doesn't mean it doesn't belong
    somewhere else, too!

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    9.2 rec.food.recipes

    A moderated newsgroup for recipes and requests for recipes. Each week a
    FAQ explains how to post recipes or requests. The lead moderator is
    Tracy Carman, <recipes@swcp.com>.
    The rfr moderators' software automatically sets followups to rfc.
    The reason is, no discussion is allowed in rfr - only recipes or
    requests for same. Since some people might wish to publicly discuss
    posted recipes notwithstanding, followups to rfc serve a useful purpose.

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    9.3 rec.food.drink, rec.food.drink.beer, rec.food.drink.tea,
    rec.food.restaurants, rec.food.drink.coffee
    rec.food.sourdough, rec.food.historic

    Pretty self-explanatory.

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    9.4 rec.food.veg

    About vegetarianism. It also has its own FAQ list, with questions about
    the myths and truths of the vegetarian diet, information on where to get "cruelty-free" products, etc.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.5 rec.food.veg.cooking

    A moderated version of rec.food.veg

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    9.6 rec.food.preserving

    "Rec.food.preserving is a newsgroup devoted to the discussion of
    recipes, equipment, and techniques of food preservation. Current food preservation techniques that rightly should be discussed in this forum
    include canning, freezing, dehydration, pickling, smoking, salting,
    distilling, and potting. Foodstuffs are defined as produce (both fruits
    and vegetables), meat, fish, dairy products, culinary and medicinal
    herbs. Discussions should be limited to home-grown or home-preserved
    foods." (From the rec.food.preserving FAQ)

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    9.7 also...

    rec.crafts.winemaking
    rec.crafts.brewing
    alt.food
    alt.food.wine
    alt.coffee
    alt.food.asian
    alt.food.fat-free
    alt.food.low-fat
    alt.bacchus
    alt.food.mcdonalds (an oxymoron if ever I heard one)
    alt.food.coca-cola (mmmm....coca cola...)
    alt.food.chocolate
    alt.food.taco.bell
    alt.creative-cook
    alt.creative-cooking
    alt.cooking-chat
    alt.food.barbecue
    alt.2eggs.sausage.beans.tomatoes.2toast.largetea.cheerslove alt.food.mexican-cooking
    alt.food.sushi

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    9.8 mailing lists

    A very popular mailing list is

    Chile-Heads

    Purpose: The Chile-Heads list is intended to provide a forum
    for discussion of matters relating to chile peppers; including,
    but not limited to:

    o Growing peppers
    o Seed and plant sources
    o Exchanges of seeds/plants/pods/etc.
    o Exotic varieties
    o Storing and preserving chiles
    o Recipes using chiles
    o Other related posts

    http://globalgarden.com/Chile-Heads/list_info.phtml

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List
    All messages posted to the list are emailed immediately to
    everyone on the list.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List
    The digest will save all email messages posted to the list for
    the day and send in one email message.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from
    ftp.globalgarden.com, in pub/Chile-Heads/digest/vNN.nMMM
    (where "NN" is the volume number, and "MMM" is the issue number).

    How to Unsubscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List or Digest
    Mailing List
    To unsubscribe send email to Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    or Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    (depending on which version of the list you are subscribed to)
    with the body of the message containing:
    UNSUBSCRIBE


    Another popular mailing list is

    Bread-Bakers

    The bread-bakers digest and daily-bread mailing lists are for the
    free exchange of recipes and information related to any and all
    aspects of bread baking, by hand or by machine.
    http://www.bread-bakers.com/

    To join the bread-bakers mailing list, send mail to
    bread-bakers-request@lists.bread-bakers.com In the body of the
    message, place, in lower case with no indentation, the single word:

    subscribe

    This will subscribe you at the address that your message is sent
    from. This is almost certainly your correct address. Bestserv will
    send you a message asking you to confirm your subscription request.
    You must reply to the message changing the word REJECT in the
    subject to ACCEPT. You will get a confirmation when your
    subscription has been accepted. If you have problems subscribing,
    please write to us at bread-bakers-owner@lists.bread-bakers.com
    and we will assist you.

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    10 Other culinary FAQs (thank you to Damsel in dis Dress)

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    10.1 Foods

    * ftp://ftp.michvhf.com/pub/rec.food.baking/FAQ
    (rec.food.baking FAQ, by B. Keith Ryder)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/sourdough/faq/preamble.html
    (rec.food.sourdough FAQ, maintained by Darrell Greenwood)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/index2.html#faq
    (Meat FAQs: Foie gras, Pig processing, Venison processing, Elk and
    caribou, Wagyu and Kobe beef; by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.macscouter.com/Cooking/DutchOven.html
    (Dutch oven cooking)

    * http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/index.html
    (BBQ FAQ, by William W. Wight)

    * http://www.bbqguide.com/meat_smoking_and_curing_faq.htm
    (Meat smoking and curing FAQ, maintained by Richard Thead)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/preserving/part1/
    (rec.food.preserving FAQ, maintained by Eric Decker)

    * http://edible-complex.home.att.net/faq-spices.html
    (Spices FAQ, by Daniel M. Germán)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/culinary-herbs/part1/
    (Culinary herbs FAQ, maintained by Henriette Kress)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/truffles.html
    (Truffles (fungi) FAQ, by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/chocolate/faq/
    (Chocolate FAQ, by Monee Kidd)

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    10.2 Beverages

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/caffeine-faq/
    (Coffee and caffeine FAQ, by Alex Lopez-Ortiz)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/tea/faq/
    (Tea FAQ, by Christopher Roberson)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/wine-faq/part1/
    (Wine FAQ, by Bradford S. Brown)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/crafts/winemaking-faq/
    (Winemaking FAQ, by Don Buchan)

    * http://www.beerinfo.com/rfdb/faq.html
    (Beer FAQ, by John A. Lock)

    * http://hbd.org/brewery/library/absfaq.html
    (Absinthe FAQ, by Matthew Baggott)

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    10.3 Religion, lifestyle and special diets

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/rfcj/kosherfaq.htm
    (Kosher food, by Pat Gold, Beth Greenfeld, and Ruth Heiges)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/vegetarian/faq/
    (rec.food.veg (vegetarian) FAQ, by Michael Traub)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/fatfree/faq/
    (Fat-free FAQ, by Michelle Dick)

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    10.4 Miscellaneous

    * http://FAQs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/cooking/common-topics
    (Commonly discussed topics, by Stephanie da Silva)

    * http://www.thepurplehouse.net/wedding/cookware.txt
    (Cookware FAQ, by Oliver Sharp)

    * http://www.sff.net/people/pff/sharp.txt
    (Knife FAQs: Plain vs. serrated edges, Knife sharpening,
    Steel types, by Joe Talmadge)

    * http://www.survival-center.com/foodfaq/ff1-toc.htm
    (Food storage FAQ, by Alan T. Hagan)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sci/food-science-faq/part1/
    (Food science FAQ, by Rachel Zemser, J. Ralph Blanchfield, and Paul
    King)

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    10.5 Humour

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/kool-aid-faq/
    (Kool-Aid FAQ, by Paul and Bess Dawson-Schmidt)

    * http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/bofh-food-faq
    (bofh.food FAQ, by J.D. Falk)

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    11 "Unofficial" rec.food.cooking Web site

    Damsel in dis Dress used to maintain what many people regarded as the 'unofficial' rec.food.cooking site, with sections devoted to rfc chat,
    rfc 'signature' dishes, rfc cook-in reports, and rfc birthdays.
    Chatty Cathy is currently in charge of the site, which contains all of
    the above and more, particularly a link to the rfc map set up by
    Christine Dabney. The site is located at
    http://www.recfoodcooking.org

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    12 Sources

    Lots of wonderful people helped compile this list - again, much
    acknowledgement is due to Cindy Kandolf for putting this entire thing
    together and to Amy Gale for maintaining it and adding to it for many
    years.

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    12.1 Contributors

    The other wonderful people are :

    carolynd(at)sail.labs.tek.com
    ekman(at)netc.om.com
    arielle(at)aronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
    rs7x+(at)andrew.cmu.edu
    jane(at)cse.lbl.gov
    jonog(at)g2syd.genasys.com.au anita(at)devvax.mincom.oz.au sbookey(at)ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey) ccd(at)ccdadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au pmmuggli(at)uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu chu(at)acsu.buffalo.edu cdfk(at)otter.hpl.hp.com dudek(at)ksr.com aem(at)symbiosis.ahp.com wald(at)theory.lcs.mit.edu harvey(at)indyvax.iupui.edu ed(at)pa.dec.com ndkj(at)vax5.cit.cornell.edu ekman(at)netc.om.com
    otten(at)icase.edu jane(at)cse.lbl.gov loosemore-sandra(at)cs.yale.edu mworley(at)mathcs.emory.edu kts(at)michael.udev.cdc.com cc(at)dcs.edinburgh.ac.uk leander(at)ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
    cduff(at)sugar.NeoSoft.COM
    lvirden(at)cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
    hammond(at)niwot.scd.ucar.EDU (Steve Hammond)
    dfw(at)thumper.bellcore.com (Doris Woods)
    gibbsm(at)ll.mit.edu (MargAret D Gibbs)
    rickert(at)cco.caltech.edu (Keith Warren Rickert)
    Simon Kershaw Simon.Kershaw(at)Smallworld.co.uk
    Joel Offenberg offenbrg(at)trifle.gsfc.nasa.gov
    grant(at)oj.rsmas.miami.edu (Grant Basham)
    lmak(at)cbnewsf.cb.att.com (louisa.l.mak)
    twain(at)carson.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin) hz225wu(at)unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Micaela Pantke)
    sfisher(at)megatest.com (Scott Fisher)
    byrne(at)rcf.rsmas.miami.edu (Charlie Byrne)
    jmk5u(at)Virginia.EDU
    bae(at)gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Beverly Erlebacher) rlwilliams(at)gallua.gallaudet.edu (Skip) hwalden(at)science-store.chem.wayne.edu (Heather Walden)
    mcenter(at)amoco.com (Mike Center, PSC)
    kevin(at)eye.com (Kevin Stokker)
    steven(at)surya.cs.ucla.edu (Steven Berson)
    eric.decker(at)canrem.com (Eric Decker)
    peteo(at)ford.wpd.sgi.com (Peter Orelup)
    sk10003(at)cus.cam.ac.uk (Scott Kleinman)
    David Casseres casseres(at)apple.com Ted.Taylor(at)p4214.f104.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Taylor)
    george(at)dfds.ml.com (George Minkovsky)
    Alison(at)moose.demon.co.uk (Alison Scott)
    jae(at)world.std.com (Jon A Edelston)
    conrad(at)qpsx.oz.au (Conrad Drake)
    nadel(at)attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel)
    patricia(at)cs.utexas.edu (Patricia M. Burson)
    betsey(at)columbia.edu (Elizabeth Fike)
    leah(at)smith.chi.il.us (Leah Smith)
    steve(at)unipalm.co.uk (Steve Ladlow)
    STEVE SKHNY(at)CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
    "Sudheer Apte" apte(at)loki.hks.com
    Diane Ferrell, Leslie Basel
    rankin(at)scubed.com (Tom Rankin)
    vev(at)msen.com (Vince Vielhaber)
    HUYQ78A(at)prodigy.com (MS PHYLLIS T SPAETH)
    lenf(at)netc.om.com (Len Freedman)
    apforz(at)pfood.win.net (Andy Pforzheimer)
    wnukoski(at)crypt.erie.ge.com (George Wnukoski)
    Dan_Masi(at)Warren.mentorg.com
    robinc(at)oanet.com (Robin Cowdrey)
    merlin(at)ion.com.au (Merlin Zener)
    "Frank Fileccia" surplus(at)telusplanet.net
    "Rodger Whitlock" totototo(at)mail.pacificcoast.net
    Damsel in dis Dress damsel.in.dis.dress(at)gmail.com
    Shankar Bhattacharyya sbhattac(at)idt.net
    Sophie Laplante laplante(at)lri.fr
    Andrew Nicholson andrewn(at)lesto.com
    Ed Keith edkeith(at)home.com
    Read rweaver(at)igc.org
    T. Terrell Banks terry(at)banks-usa.com
    William Chuang wchuang(at)MIT.EDU
    Scott Jordan sjordan(at)ntrnet.net
    Terry Simpson terry(at)connected-systems.com
    Bill Boylan bill.boylan(at)cox.net
    Max Hauser maxREMOVE(at)THIStdl.com
    Vilco a(at)b.invalid
    Lyndon Watson teile(at)clear.net.nz

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    12.2 Bibliography

    This is a new section composed of the acknowledgements previously
    sprinkled through the text. More information on these books will be
    welcomed.

    1) "Trolldom in the Kitchen"
    Pat Bjaaland and Melody Favish

    2) "Larousse Gastronomique"
    ISBN 0 7493 0316 6

    Larousse Gastronomique
    The New American Edition of the World's Greatest Culinary
    Encyclopedia
    By Jenifer Harvey Lang
    Hardcover, 1193 pages
    ISBN: 0517570327
    List Price: $60.00
    Random House
    Publication Date: 10/01/88

    3) "Still Life with Menu" (K)
    Mollie Katzen
    Revised trade paperback 1995
    Still Life with Menu Cookbook
    Trade Paperback, 256 Pages, Revised, Ten Speed, March 1995
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk)
    Author: Katzen, Mollie
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk.)

    Still Life With Menu Cookbook by Katzen, Mollie
    fifty new meatless menus with original art
    Berkeley, California, Ten Speed Press, 1988
    ISBN 0898152569

    4) "Cookery in Colour" (P)
    Marguerite Patten

    5) "The Rotation Diet" (RD)

    6) "My Fun-to-cook-book" (S)
    Ursula Sedgwick

    7) "The New Food Lover's Companion"

    8) "Michel Guérard's Cuisine Minceur"
    Michel Guérard

    9) "Mastering the Art of French Cooking"
    Julia Child

    10) "The Oxford Companion to Food"
    Alan Davidson

    11) "Julia and Jacques Cooking At Home"
    by Julia Child and Jacques Pépin

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    Clean the wok with hot water and some form of scrubbing tool. The
    bamboo things they sometimes include actually work or one can use a
    nylon scrubbing pad (no brillo, SOS, or equivalent). After the wok is
    cleaned, put it back on the burner for a few minutes to heat it up and evaporate any moisture. Then, add a little oil to it and rub it around
    with a paper towel to keep it shiny and from rusting with any moisture
    it may attract in between uses.

    Another thing, when you are done cooking in the wok, put some water in
    it to soak while you eat. Cleanup takes just a few work with a nylon
    scrubbing pad and some hot water.

    Taking good care of your cookware only requires a few minutes of time
    and makes it much easier to use and cleanup. Food doesn't stick to a
    well seasoned wok. If it starts to stick, scrub it well with something
    like an S.O.S. pad and re-season.

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    5.2 Cast Iron (thank you to Tom Rankin)

    Summary:
    Make sure your cast iron is clean down to bare metal.
    Coat with fat, heat, repeat.
    Look after by never washing in soapy water and scrubbing as little as
    possible.

    Details:

    Initial cleaning: get off all the packaging oil, burnt food or
    whatever the pan has on it. Some suggestions for achieving this are
    - Wash in hot soapy water, dry thoroughly
    - Boil undiluted white vinegar in the pan for while
    - Commercial beadblasting (not sandblasting)
    - Steel wool
    - Hot embers
    - Kosher salt baked in the pan at 500°F (260°C) for 4 hours and
    scraped out again
    - Put in self-cleaning oven and turn on clean cycle

    Fats to use: a solid vegetable fat, or lard. Oil is not as suitable.

    Seasoning process: Wipe pot inside and out with melted fat. Do the lid
    too (if it's cast iron). At this point, authorities seem to diverge.
    The common theme is "get it hot and keep it hot for considerably more
    than an hour" (optionally followed by "re-coat it with fat during the process"). Two hours at 350°F (175°C), re-wiping with fat every
    30 minutes, seems sensible.

    When this has been done, the seasoning process has been begun but not
    yet completed. The first few times the pan is used, it should be for
    fairly fatty foods. Fried eggs rather than tomato soup, for example.

    Each time the pan is used, rinse with hot water and scrub if necessary.
    Don't scour or use detergent - otherwise you will need to re-season.
    Some people coat their cast iron very lightly with oil after washing,
    then wipe out after an initial heating next time they use it.

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    6 History and Lore of rec.food.cooking

    ----------------------------------------
    6.1 Origins of rec.food.cooking (thank you to Max Hauser)

    rec.food.cooking began as net.cooks, launched by friend and fellow food
    fanatic Steve Upstill in Berkeley in January 1982 with a posting on
    pragmatic pasta sauces, something Steve was then often cooking,
    including at my place. We were all cranking out a lot of fresh ribbon
    pasta with Atlas 150 (150mm) roller/cutter machines and we needed things
    to do with it. net.cooks became rec.food.cooking in the general Great
    Renaming (late 1986). Current Google archives show Steve's original
    29-Jan-82 posting, and also his 31-Jan-82 net.general announcement of net.cooks, "All about food, cooking, cookbooks, recipes and other
    alimentary effluvia." That was the "charter" of this newsgroup.
    (Discussions by the way using the specific language of newsgroup
    "charter" on net.cooks or rec.food.cooking don't appear until five years
    later in 1987, an exchange between Terry Sterkel, me, and Spafford,
    referring anyway to a different newsgroup.) Posted statistics also
    showed that net.cooks became popular immediately, one of the most
    popular newsgroups at the time. After the 1986 renaming, a Gene
    Spafford active-newsgroups list included rec.food.cooking with summary
    "Food, cooking, cookbooks, and recipes." Steve Upstill continued to
    contribute occasionally, and also to work on recipe-formatting software.
    I recall him commercializing a typesetting macro package ("-MU"), and
    recipe software for Mac platforms.

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    6.2 Some Higlights in the Life of rec.food.cooking

    - There have been quite a few rec.food.cooking cook-ins all over the
    USA, as well as a small one in Germany. The first one was hosted by
    Anne Bourget in Sacramento, California, in 1994.

    - Early in 1997, a rec.food.cooking T-shirt was produced, with the
    proceeds donated to charity. Some 220 T-shirts were sold to rfc'ers.

    - In 2002-3, a rec.food.cooking Cook.Book was published, also with the proceeds donated to charity (City Harvest, a NYC affiliate of Second
    Harvest) to help the victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. There were
    two printings, one late in 2002, the other early in 2003, and a total of
    about 740 copies were sold, also to rfc'ers.


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    6.3 What's all this about xxxx? (much of this section was copied
    verbatim from the rec.food.cooking MiniFAQ that the
    invaluable Amy Gale used to post - thank you, Amy)

    This section tries to cover a few of the most commonly confusing
    topics that may come up on the newsgroup.

    aluminium : has not been linked to Alzheimer's Disease in a
    reproducible experiment.

    Elbonia : a mythical country (probably in Eastern Europe). Comes
    from Scott Adams' "Dilbert", syndicated in newspapers and
    available at http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/

    Ingrid : Anne Bourget's Volvo, used for flattening chicken breasts.
    Now deceased, but the memory lives on.

    j/nghlm : a joke ingredient. Spelling varies.

    WWT : (Weekend With Tammy). Once upon a time, a long-time rfc
    poster named Tammy spent a weekend with another long-time
    poster who posted a long article describing their mainly
    food-related adventures. Some people took exception to
    that posting, complaining about the lack of recipes (which
    were posted separately). Many people now use the WWT
    acronym in the subject header to indicate a posting of
    similar nature.

    ObFood : 'obligatory food reference'. An old rfc tradition.
    Many people hold that, whenever one happens to post off
    topic, one is supposed to add something that has to do
    with food, ideally something that is actually interesting
    and/or useful.

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    7 This has come up once too often....

    This list is a (futile?) attempt to keep certain well-worn subjects from
    coming up yet again. Further suggestions always welcome.

    The $250 cookie recipe

    This recipe comes up often, usually here but also on other newsgroups
    (where it is even less appropriate). The story goes that a woman had a
    cookie at [usually Mrs. Field's or Neiman Marcus' cafe], and liked it
    so much she wanted the recipe. The clerk said "It will cost you
    two-fifty"; the woman thought that meant $2.50 and was shocked to find
    it meant $250. She is now spreading it to get revenge, since it was not returnable.

    There are a number of holes in the story, and no one has ever brought
    forth any evidence that it really happened. (If you want to argue that
    you know someone who knows someone who this really happened to, take it
    over to alt.folklore.urban, where they will proceed to have you for
    breakfast if you have no evidence.) More importantly, it has been
    posted more than enough times by now. Some people have tried the recipe
    and pronounced it good, but it ain't Mrs. Field's. If you would like
    the recipe, ask for someone to mail it to you.

    It has been pointed out to me that the recipe is in the standard source distribution for GNU Emacs and XEmacs. If your site has that source,
    look in the "etc" directory for a file named COOKIES.

    Most importantly, please DO NOT post it any more. There is also a Mrs
    Fields cookbook, published by Time-Life. This has recipes, but not the
    exact ones for the ones sold in the stores, as those recipes are not
    well suited to home baking.

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    8 Recipe archives and other cooking/food sites

    ----------------------------------------
    8.1 Recipe archives

    There are hundreds, if not thousands, of recipe archives on the net.
    Here are some of the more popular and larger ones.

    * http://recipes.alastra.com/
    The official rec.food.recipes archive, maintained by Stephanie da
    Silva.

    * http://www.lysator.liu.se/etexts/recept/us/main.html
    Usenet Cookbook, a collection of old alt.gourmand recipes.

    * http://www.recipesource.com/
    SOAR - Searchable Online Archive of Recipes.

    * http://www.ichef.com/ichef-recipes/

    * http://www.cs.cmu.edu/%7Emjw/recipes/
    Amy Gale's recipe archives.

    * http://recipes.wenzel.net/
    RecipeLand.com's archive with 25000+ recipes.

    * http://www.astray.com/recipes/
    A searchable database of 76,000+ recipes, maintained by Leon
    Brocard.

    * http://www.recipecenter.com
    100,000+ recipes.

    * http://allrecipes.com/
    A large, searchable recipe archive.

    * http://home.uni-one.nl/the-cooking-page/
    The Cooking Page. Numerous recipe links classified by language
    (English, French, German, Dutch), by food course, and by cuisine.

    * http://www.oingo.com/topic/14/14336.html
    A well designed and functional searchable database of thousands of
    food and recipe links.

    * http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/topics/cook.htm
    Ancient and medieval recipes, and cooking and food links.

    * http://www.ajlc.waterloo.on.ca/Recipes/index.html
    A very large, meticulous index of recipes, with a search engine.

    * http://www.cdkitchen.com/
    A comprehensive cooking Web site with over 200,000 recipes,
    including a rec.food.recipes archive. By Valerie Whitmore.

    * http://www.lingualearn.co.uk/food.htm
    A collection of links to recipes, etc. of varius countries.

    * "http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm
    A Boke of Gode Cookery. A collection of Medieval recipes by James
    Matterer.

    * Copycat recipes or links to them are often requested on rfc. Two of
    the better known sites with such recipes are
    http://www.copykat.com
    and
    http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/.

    ----------------------------------------
    8.2 Other cooking/food sites

    * http://www.epicurious.com/
    A general food site with a dictionary (THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION,
    by Sharon Tyler Herbst), recipes from well-known food magazines,
    etc.

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/
    Mimi's Cyber Kitchen, a general food site maintained by Mimi
    Hiller.

    * http://www-ang.kfunigraz.ac.at/~katzer/engl/index.html
    Gernot Katzer's Spice Pages, a Web spice encyclopedia, by Gernot
    Katzer.

    * http://www.foodsubs.com/ (and numerous mirrors)
    The Cook's Thesaurus. By Lori Alden. Suggests substitutions for
    thousands of cooking ingredients.

    * http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Island/3012/glossary.htm
    An A-Z glossary of Indian spices and cooking terms.

    * http://www.EuropeanCuisines.com/
    and
    http://www.owlsprings.com/the_balti_page/
    "European Cuisines" and "The Balti Page".
    By Peter Morwood & Diane Duane.

    * http://www.virtualquincy.com/quincy/recreation/recipes.html
    Directory listing of over 375 recipe and cooking websites.

    * http://www.reluctantgourmet.com/
    Cooking guide for beginner cooks.

    * http://labsoftware.com/cookbook/default.htm
    "Cooking for Graduate Students and and other beginning Kitchen
    Dwellers".

    * http://vsack.homepage.t-online.de/afa_faq.html
    Links to sites related to Asian food and cooking, as posted
    regularly to alt.food.asian by blacksalt.

    * http://www.whatscookingamerica.net/Glossary/GlossaryIndex2.htm
    Linda's Culinary Dictionary. By Linda Stradley. A listing and
    history of cooking, food, and beverage terms.

    * http://www.todine.net/dictionary.html
    Italian-English-French-Spanish-German Gastronomical Dictionary.

    * http://www.xs4all.nl/~margjos/
    English-French-German-Danish-Dutch food dictionary. By Jos and
    Marg Sparreboom.

    * http://www.theepicentre.com/glossary.html
    A glossary of spices, etc.

    * http://www.soupsong.com/ifoodta.html
    "Food tales, or everything you always wanted to know about the
    migration and lore of food."

    * http://www.breadworld.com/canada/tips/glossary/glossary.asp
    A glossary of baking terms maintained by Fleischmann's Yeast, a
    commercial entity.

    * http://www.mhr-viandes.com/en/docu/docu/d9000003.htm
    Multilingual meat and poultry glossaries.

    * http://www.aboutproduce.com/
    Recipes, nutrition info, selection tips for vegetables, fruits, nuts
    and herbs. By the Produce Marketing Association.

    * http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/rfe0.html
    Comprehensive, illustrated fish encylopaedia. An FDA resource.

    * http://navigator.tufts.edu/
    Tufts University Nutrition Navigator. Reviews and rating of
    nutrition information Web sites.

    * http://food.oregonstate.edu/glossary/all.html
    Science of Foods Glossary.

    * http://www.cahe.nmsu.edu/pubs/_e/e-131.pdf
    In A Pinch - Ingredient Substitution, a PDF file.

    * http://www.thousandeggs.com/cookbooks.html
    Links to old culinary & brewing documents online, by Cindy Renfrow.

    * http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/egg/fdnews.html
    A humongous list of culinary newsletters, magazines and journals.

    * http://www.azcentral.com/home/cooking101/
    Cooking 101.

    * http://www.gortons.com/cookbook/
    Gorton's fisherman's cookbook and fish glossary.

    * http://www.pipeline.com/~rosskat/
    A wealth of culinary information, resources, recipes, etc. on a
    rather disorganised site.

    * http://members.aol.com/Jwmike101/home.html
    Culinary resource desk. Lots of useful links.

    * http://www.psgrill.net/Encyclopedia/ENCYCLOPEDIA.html
    Large, useful food dictionary (but with some annoying
    mistranslations and misspellings).

    * http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/glossary/
    BBC's food glossary.

    * http://www.calacademy.org/research/anthropology/utensil/
    The History of Eating Utensils.

    * http://www.astaspice.org/history/history_main.htm
    ASTA's World of Spice - The history of the Spice Trade. By The
    American Spice Trade Association.

    * http://www.usmef.org/TradeLibrary/InternationalMeatManual.asp
    International Meat Manual. Corn-fed beef, grass-fed beef, veal,
    pork and lamb. In English, Japanese, Korean, Mandarin Chinese and
    Spanish. By the U.S. Meat Export Federation.

    * http://www.carnegielibrary.org/subject/food/
    Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh -- comprehensive Food and Cooking
    resource guide

    * http://www.bakingbusiness.com/refbook.asp
    The Encyclopedia of Baking offers reference, formulations and
    troubleshooting for common baking ingredients.

    ----------------------------------------
    9 Food newsgroups and mailing lists

    ----------------------------------------
    9.1 rec.food.cooking

    a.k.a. us: A group for the discussion of cooking in general. Recipes
    and requests for recipes are welcome here, as are discussions of cooking techniques, equipment, etc. In short, if it has to do with cooking, it probably belongs here - though that doesn't mean it doesn't belong
    somewhere else, too!

    ----------------------------------------
    9.2 rec.food.recipes

    A moderated newsgroup for recipes and requests for recipes. Each week a
    FAQ explains how to post recipes or requests. The lead moderator is
    Tracy Carman, <recipes@swcp.com>.
    The rfr moderators' software automatically sets followups to rfc.
    The reason is, no discussion is allowed in rfr - only recipes or
    requests for same. Since some people might wish to publicly discuss
    posted recipes notwithstanding, followups to rfc serve a useful purpose.

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    9.3 rec.food.drink, rec.food.drink.beer, rec.food.drink.tea,
    rec.food.restaurants, rec.food.drink.coffee
    rec.food.sourdough, rec.food.historic

    Pretty self-explanatory.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.4 rec.food.veg

    About vegetarianism. It also has its own FAQ list, with questions about
    the myths and truths of the vegetarian diet, information on where to get "cruelty-free" products, etc.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.5 rec.food.veg.cooking

    A moderated version of rec.food.veg

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    9.6 rec.food.preserving

    "Rec.food.preserving is a newsgroup devoted to the discussion of
    recipes, equipment, and techniques of food preservation. Current food preservation techniques that rightly should be discussed in this forum
    include canning, freezing, dehydration, pickling, smoking, salting,
    distilling, and potting. Foodstuffs are defined as produce (both fruits
    and vegetables), meat, fish, dairy products, culinary and medicinal
    herbs. Discussions should be limited to home-grown or home-preserved
    foods." (From the rec.food.preserving FAQ)

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    9.7 also...

    rec.crafts.winemaking
    rec.crafts.brewing
    alt.food
    alt.food.wine
    alt.coffee
    alt.food.asian
    alt.food.fat-free
    alt.food.low-fat
    alt.bacchus
    alt.food.mcdonalds (an oxymoron if ever I heard one)
    alt.food.coca-cola (mmmm....coca cola...)
    alt.food.chocolate
    alt.food.taco.bell
    alt.creative-cook
    alt.creative-cooking
    alt.cooking-chat
    alt.food.barbecue
    alt.2eggs.sausage.beans.tomatoes.2toast.largetea.cheerslove alt.food.mexican-cooking
    alt.food.sushi

    ----------------------------------------
    9.8 mailing lists

    A very popular mailing list is

    Chile-Heads

    Purpose: The Chile-Heads list is intended to provide a forum
    for discussion of matters relating to chile peppers; including,
    but not limited to:

    o Growing peppers
    o Seed and plant sources
    o Exchanges of seeds/plants/pods/etc.
    o Exotic varieties
    o Storing and preserving chiles
    o Recipes using chiles
    o Other related posts

    http://globalgarden.com/Chile-Heads/list_info.phtml

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List
    All messages posted to the list are emailed immediately to
    everyone on the list.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List
    The digest will save all email messages posted to the list for
    the day and send in one email message.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from
    ftp.globalgarden.com, in pub/Chile-Heads/digest/vNN.nMMM
    (where "NN" is the volume number, and "MMM" is the issue number).

    How to Unsubscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List or Digest
    Mailing List
    To unsubscribe send email to Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    or Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    (depending on which version of the list you are subscribed to)
    with the body of the message containing:
    UNSUBSCRIBE


    Another popular mailing list is

    Bread-Bakers

    The bread-bakers digest and daily-bread mailing lists are for the
    free exchange of recipes and information related to any and all
    aspects of bread baking, by hand or by machine.
    http://www.bread-bakers.com/

    To join the bread-bakers mailing list, send mail to
    bread-bakers-request@lists.bread-bakers.com In the body of the
    message, place, in lower case with no indentation, the single word:

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    This will subscribe you at the address that your message is sent
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    10 Other culinary FAQs (thank you to Damsel in dis Dress)

    ----------------------------------------
    10.1 Foods

    * ftp://ftp.michvhf.com/pub/rec.food.baking/FAQ
    (rec.food.baking FAQ, by B. Keith Ryder)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/sourdough/faq/preamble.html
    (rec.food.sourdough FAQ, maintained by Darrell Greenwood)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/index2.html#faq
    (Meat FAQs: Foie gras, Pig processing, Venison processing, Elk and
    caribou, Wagyu and Kobe beef; by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.macscouter.com/Cooking/DutchOven.html
    (Dutch oven cooking)

    * http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/index.html
    (BBQ FAQ, by William W. Wight)

    * http://www.bbqguide.com/meat_smoking_and_curing_faq.htm
    (Meat smoking and curing FAQ, maintained by Richard Thead)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/preserving/part1/
    (rec.food.preserving FAQ, maintained by Eric Decker)

    * http://edible-complex.home.att.net/faq-spices.html
    (Spices FAQ, by Daniel M. Germán)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/culinary-herbs/part1/
    (Culinary herbs FAQ, maintained by Henriette Kress)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/truffles.html
    (Truffles (fungi) FAQ, by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/chocolate/faq/
    (Chocolate FAQ, by Monee Kidd)

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    10.2 Beverages

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/caffeine-faq/
    (Coffee and caffeine FAQ, by Alex Lopez-Ortiz)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/tea/faq/
    (Tea FAQ, by Christopher Roberson)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/wine-faq/part1/
    (Wine FAQ, by Bradford S. Brown)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/crafts/winemaking-faq/
    (Winemaking FAQ, by Don Buchan)

    * http://www.beerinfo.com/rfdb/faq.html
    (Beer FAQ, by John A. Lock)

    * http://hbd.org/brewery/library/absfaq.html
    (Absinthe FAQ, by Matthew Baggott)

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    10.3 Religion, lifestyle and special diets

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/rfcj/kosherfaq.htm
    (Kosher food, by Pat Gold, Beth Greenfeld, and Ruth Heiges)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/vegetarian/faq/
    (rec.food.veg (vegetarian) FAQ, by Michael Traub)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/fatfree/faq/
    (Fat-free FAQ, by Michelle Dick)

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    10.4 Miscellaneous

    * http://FAQs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/cooking/common-topics
    (Commonly discussed topics, by Stephanie da Silva)

    * http://www.thepurplehouse.net/wedding/cookware.txt
    (Cookware FAQ, by Oliver Sharp)

    * http://www.sff.net/people/pff/sharp.txt
    (Knife FAQs: Plain vs. serrated edges, Knife sharpening,
    Steel types, by Joe Talmadge)

    * http://www.survival-center.com/foodfaq/ff1-toc.htm
    (Food storage FAQ, by Alan T. Hagan)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sci/food-science-faq/part1/
    (Food science FAQ, by Rachel Zemser, J. Ralph Blanchfield, and Paul
    King)

    ----------------------------------------
    10.5 Humour

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/kool-aid-faq/
    (Kool-Aid FAQ, by Paul and Bess Dawson-Schmidt)

    * http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/bofh-food-faq
    (bofh.food FAQ, by J.D. Falk)

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    11 "Unofficial" rec.food.cooking Web site

    Damsel in dis Dress used to maintain what many people regarded as the 'unofficial' rec.food.cooking site, with sections devoted to rfc chat,
    rfc 'signature' dishes, rfc cook-in reports, and rfc birthdays.
    Chatty Cathy is currently in charge of the site, which contains all of
    the above and more, particularly a link to the rfc map set up by
    Christine Dabney. The site is located at
    http://www.recfoodcooking.org

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    12 Sources

    Lots of wonderful people helped compile this list - again, much
    acknowledgement is due to Cindy Kandolf for putting this entire thing
    together and to Amy Gale for maintaining it and adding to it for many
    years.

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    12.1 Contributors

    The other wonderful people are :

    carolynd(at)sail.labs.tek.com
    ekman(at)netc.om.com
    arielle(at)aronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
    rs7x+(at)andrew.cmu.edu
    jane(at)cse.lbl.gov
    jonog(at)g2syd.genasys.com.au anita(at)devvax.mincom.oz.au sbookey(at)ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey) ccd(at)ccdadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au pmmuggli(at)uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu chu(at)acsu.buffalo.edu cdfk(at)otter.hpl.hp.com dudek(at)ksr.com aem(at)symbiosis.ahp.com wald(at)theory.lcs.mit.edu harvey(at)indyvax.iupui.edu ed(at)pa.dec.com ndkj(at)vax5.cit.cornell.edu ekman(at)netc.om.com
    otten(at)icase.edu jane(at)cse.lbl.gov loosemore-sandra(at)cs.yale.edu mworley(at)mathcs.emory.edu kts(at)michael.udev.cdc.com cc(at)dcs.edinburgh.ac.uk leander(at)ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
    cduff(at)sugar.NeoSoft.COM
    lvirden(at)cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
    hammond(at)niwot.scd.ucar.EDU (Steve Hammond)
    dfw(at)thumper.bellcore.com (Doris Woods)
    gibbsm(at)ll.mit.edu (MargAret D Gibbs)
    rickert(at)cco.caltech.edu (Keith Warren Rickert)
    Simon Kershaw Simon.Kershaw(at)Smallworld.co.uk
    Joel Offenberg offenbrg(at)trifle.gsfc.nasa.gov
    grant(at)oj.rsmas.miami.edu (Grant Basham)
    lmak(at)cbnewsf.cb.att.com (louisa.l.mak)
    twain(at)carson.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin) hz225wu(at)unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Micaela Pantke)
    sfisher(at)megatest.com (Scott Fisher)
    byrne(at)rcf.rsmas.miami.edu (Charlie Byrne)
    jmk5u(at)Virginia.EDU
    bae(at)gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Beverly Erlebacher) rlwilliams(at)gallua.gallaudet.edu (Skip) hwalden(at)science-store.chem.wayne.edu (Heather Walden)
    mcenter(at)amoco.com (Mike Center, PSC)
    kevin(at)eye.com (Kevin Stokker)
    steven(at)surya.cs.ucla.edu (Steven Berson)
    eric.decker(at)canrem.com (Eric Decker)
    peteo(at)ford.wpd.sgi.com (Peter Orelup)
    sk10003(at)cus.cam.ac.uk (Scott Kleinman)
    David Casseres casseres(at)apple.com Ted.Taylor(at)p4214.f104.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Taylor)
    george(at)dfds.ml.com (George Minkovsky)
    Alison(at)moose.demon.co.uk (Alison Scott)
    jae(at)world.std.com (Jon A Edelston)
    conrad(at)qpsx.oz.au (Conrad Drake)
    nadel(at)attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel)
    patricia(at)cs.utexas.edu (Patricia M. Burson)
    betsey(at)columbia.edu (Elizabeth Fike)
    leah(at)smith.chi.il.us (Leah Smith)
    steve(at)unipalm.co.uk (Steve Ladlow)
    STEVE SKHNY(at)CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
    "Sudheer Apte" apte(at)loki.hks.com
    Diane Ferrell, Leslie Basel
    rankin(at)scubed.com (Tom Rankin)
    vev(at)msen.com (Vince Vielhaber)
    HUYQ78A(at)prodigy.com (MS PHYLLIS T SPAETH)
    lenf(at)netc.om.com (Len Freedman)
    apforz(at)pfood.win.net (Andy Pforzheimer)
    wnukoski(at)crypt.erie.ge.com (George Wnukoski)
    Dan_Masi(at)Warren.mentorg.com
    robinc(at)oanet.com (Robin Cowdrey)
    merlin(at)ion.com.au (Merlin Zener)
    "Frank Fileccia" surplus(at)telusplanet.net
    "Rodger Whitlock" totototo(at)mail.pacificcoast.net
    Damsel in dis Dress damsel.in.dis.dress(at)gmail.com
    Shankar Bhattacharyya sbhattac(at)idt.net
    Sophie Laplante laplante(at)lri.fr
    Andrew Nicholson andrewn(at)lesto.com
    Ed Keith edkeith(at)home.com
    Read rweaver(at)igc.org
    T. Terrell Banks terry(at)banks-usa.com
    William Chuang wchuang(at)MIT.EDU
    Scott Jordan sjordan(at)ntrnet.net
    Terry Simpson terry(at)connected-systems.com
    Bill Boylan bill.boylan(at)cox.net
    Max Hauser maxREMOVE(at)THIStdl.com
    Vilco a(at)b.invalid
    Lyndon Watson teile(at)clear.net.nz

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    12.2 Bibliography

    This is a new section composed of the acknowledgements previously
    sprinkled through the text. More information on these books will be
    welcomed.

    1) "Trolldom in the Kitchen"
    Pat Bjaaland and Melody Favish

    2) "Larousse Gastronomique"
    ISBN 0 7493 0316 6

    Larousse Gastronomique
    The New American Edition of the World's Greatest Culinary
    Encyclopedia
    By Jenifer Harvey Lang
    Hardcover, 1193 pages
    ISBN: 0517570327
    List Price: $60.00
    Random House
    Publication Date: 10/01/88

    3) "Still Life with Menu" (K)
    Mollie Katzen
    Revised trade paperback 1995
    Still Life with Menu Cookbook
    Trade Paperback, 256 Pages, Revised, Ten Speed, March 1995
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk)
    Author: Katzen, Mollie
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk.)

    Still Life With Menu Cookbook by Katzen, Mollie
    fifty new meatless menus with original art
    Berkeley, California, Ten Speed Press, 1988
    ISBN 0898152569

    4) "Cookery in Colour" (P)
    Marguerite Patten

    5) "The Rotation Diet" (RD)

    6) "My Fun-to-cook-book" (S)
    Ursula Sedgwick

    7) "The New Food Lover's Companion"

    8) "Michel Guérard's Cuisine Minceur"
    Michel Guérard

    9) "Mastering the Art of French Cooking"
    Julia Child

    10) "The Oxford Companion to Food"
    Alan Davidson

    11) "Julia and Jacques Cooking At Home"
    by Julia Child and Jacques Pépin

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    Clean the wok with hot water and some form of scrubbing tool. The
    bamboo things they sometimes include actually work or one can use a
    nylon scrubbing pad (no brillo, SOS, or equivalent). After the wok is
    cleaned, put it back on the burner for a few minutes to heat it up and evaporate any moisture. Then, add a little oil to it and rub it around
    with a paper towel to keep it shiny and from rusting with any moisture
    it may attract in between uses.

    Another thing, when you are done cooking in the wok, put some water in
    it to soak while you eat. Cleanup takes just a few work with a nylon
    scrubbing pad and some hot water.

    Taking good care of your cookware only requires a few minutes of time
    and makes it much easier to use and cleanup. Food doesn't stick to a
    well seasoned wok. If it starts to stick, scrub it well with something
    like an S.O.S. pad and re-season.

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    5.2 Cast Iron (thank you to Tom Rankin)

    Summary:
    Make sure your cast iron is clean down to bare metal.
    Coat with fat, heat, repeat.
    Look after by never washing in soapy water and scrubbing as little as
    possible.

    Details:

    Initial cleaning: get off all the packaging oil, burnt food or
    whatever the pan has on it. Some suggestions for achieving this are
    - Wash in hot soapy water, dry thoroughly
    - Boil undiluted white vinegar in the pan for while
    - Commercial beadblasting (not sandblasting)
    - Steel wool
    - Hot embers
    - Kosher salt baked in the pan at 500°F (260°C) for 4 hours and
    scraped out again
    - Put in self-cleaning oven and turn on clean cycle

    Fats to use: a solid vegetable fat, or lard. Oil is not as suitable.

    Seasoning process: Wipe pot inside and out with melted fat. Do the lid
    too (if it's cast iron). At this point, authorities seem to diverge.
    The common theme is "get it hot and keep it hot for considerably more
    than an hour" (optionally followed by "re-coat it with fat during the process"). Two hours at 350°F (175°C), re-wiping with fat every
    30 minutes, seems sensible.

    When this has been done, the seasoning process has been begun but not
    yet completed. The first few times the pan is used, it should be for
    fairly fatty foods. Fried eggs rather than tomato soup, for example.

    Each time the pan is used, rinse with hot water and scrub if necessary.
    Don't scour or use detergent - otherwise you will need to re-season.
    Some people coat their cast iron very lightly with oil after washing,
    then wipe out after an initial heating next time they use it.

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    6 History and Lore of rec.food.cooking

    ----------------------------------------
    6.1 Origins of rec.food.cooking (thank you to Max Hauser)

    rec.food.cooking began as net.cooks, launched by friend and fellow food
    fanatic Steve Upstill in Berkeley in January 1982 with a posting on
    pragmatic pasta sauces, something Steve was then often cooking,
    including at my place. We were all cranking out a lot of fresh ribbon
    pasta with Atlas 150 (150mm) roller/cutter machines and we needed things
    to do with it. net.cooks became rec.food.cooking in the general Great
    Renaming (late 1986). Current Google archives show Steve's original
    29-Jan-82 posting, and also his 31-Jan-82 net.general announcement of net.cooks, "All about food, cooking, cookbooks, recipes and other
    alimentary effluvia." That was the "charter" of this newsgroup.
    (Discussions by the way using the specific language of newsgroup
    "charter" on net.cooks or rec.food.cooking don't appear until five years
    later in 1987, an exchange between Terry Sterkel, me, and Spafford,
    referring anyway to a different newsgroup.) Posted statistics also
    showed that net.cooks became popular immediately, one of the most
    popular newsgroups at the time. After the 1986 renaming, a Gene
    Spafford active-newsgroups list included rec.food.cooking with summary
    "Food, cooking, cookbooks, and recipes." Steve Upstill continued to
    contribute occasionally, and also to work on recipe-formatting software.
    I recall him commercializing a typesetting macro package ("-MU"), and
    recipe software for Mac platforms.

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    6.2 Some Higlights in the Life of rec.food.cooking

    - There have been quite a few rec.food.cooking cook-ins all over the
    USA, as well as a small one in Germany. The first one was hosted by
    Anne Bourget in Sacramento, California, in 1994.

    - Early in 1997, a rec.food.cooking T-shirt was produced, with the
    proceeds donated to charity. Some 220 T-shirts were sold to rfc'ers.

    - In 2002-3, a rec.food.cooking Cook.Book was published, also with the proceeds donated to charity (City Harvest, a NYC affiliate of Second
    Harvest) to help the victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. There were
    two printings, one late in 2002, the other early in 2003, and a total of
    about 740 copies were sold, also to rfc'ers.


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    6.3 What's all this about xxxx? (much of this section was copied
    verbatim from the rec.food.cooking MiniFAQ that the
    invaluable Amy Gale used to post - thank you, Amy)

    This section tries to cover a few of the most commonly confusing
    topics that may come up on the newsgroup.

    aluminium : has not been linked to Alzheimer's Disease in a
    reproducible experiment.

    Elbonia : a mythical country (probably in Eastern Europe). Comes
    from Scott Adams' "Dilbert", syndicated in newspapers and
    available at http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/

    Ingrid : Anne Bourget's Volvo, used for flattening chicken breasts.
    Now deceased, but the memory lives on.

    j/nghlm : a joke ingredient. Spelling varies.

    WWT : (Weekend With Tammy). Once upon a time, a long-time rfc
    poster named Tammy spent a weekend with another long-time
    poster who posted a long article describing their mainly
    food-related adventures. Some people took exception to
    that posting, complaining about the lack of recipes (which
    were posted separately). Many people now use the WWT
    acronym in the subject header to indicate a posting of
    similar nature.

    ObFood : 'obligatory food reference'. An old rfc tradition.
    Many people hold that, whenever one happens to post off
    topic, one is supposed to add something that has to do
    with food, ideally something that is actually interesting
    and/or useful.

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    7 This has come up once too often....

    This list is a (futile?) attempt to keep certain well-worn subjects from
    coming up yet again. Further suggestions always welcome.

    The $250 cookie recipe

    This recipe comes up often, usually here but also on other newsgroups
    (where it is even less appropriate). The story goes that a woman had a
    cookie at [usually Mrs. Field's or Neiman Marcus' cafe], and liked it
    so much she wanted the recipe. The clerk said "It will cost you
    two-fifty"; the woman thought that meant $2.50 and was shocked to find
    it meant $250. She is now spreading it to get revenge, since it was not returnable.

    There are a number of holes in the story, and no one has ever brought
    forth any evidence that it really happened. (If you want to argue that
    you know someone who knows someone who this really happened to, take it
    over to alt.folklore.urban, where they will proceed to have you for
    breakfast if you have no evidence.) More importantly, it has been
    posted more than enough times by now. Some people have tried the recipe
    and pronounced it good, but it ain't Mrs. Field's. If you would like
    the recipe, ask for someone to mail it to you.

    It has been pointed out to me that the recipe is in the standard source distribution for GNU Emacs and XEmacs. If your site has that source,
    look in the "etc" directory for a file named COOKIES.

    Most importantly, please DO NOT post it any more. There is also a Mrs
    Fields cookbook, published by Time-Life. This has recipes, but not the
    exact ones for the ones sold in the stores, as those recipes are not
    well suited to home baking.

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    8 Recipe archives and other cooking/food sites

    ----------------------------------------
    8.1 Recipe archives

    There are hundreds, if not thousands, of recipe archives on the net.
    Here are some of the more popular and larger ones.

    * http://recipes.alastra.com/
    The official rec.food.recipes archive, maintained by Stephanie da
    Silva.

    * http://www.lysator.liu.se/etexts/recept/us/main.html
    Usenet Cookbook, a collection of old alt.gourmand recipes.

    * http://www.recipesource.com/
    SOAR - Searchable Online Archive of Recipes.

    * http://www.ichef.com/ichef-recipes/

    * http://www.cs.cmu.edu/%7Emjw/recipes/
    Amy Gale's recipe archives.

    * http://recipes.wenzel.net/
    RecipeLand.com's archive with 25000+ recipes.

    * http://www.astray.com/recipes/
    A searchable database of 76,000+ recipes, maintained by Leon
    Brocard.

    * http://www.recipecenter.com
    100,000+ recipes.

    * http://allrecipes.com/
    A large, searchable recipe archive.

    * http://home.uni-one.nl/the-cooking-page/
    The Cooking Page. Numerous recipe links classified by language
    (English, French, German, Dutch), by food course, and by cuisine.

    * http://www.oingo.com/topic/14/14336.html
    A well designed and functional searchable database of thousands of
    food and recipe links.

    * http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/topics/cook.htm
    Ancient and medieval recipes, and cooking and food links.

    * http://www.ajlc.waterloo.on.ca/Recipes/index.html
    A very large, meticulous index of recipes, with a search engine.

    * http://www.cdkitchen.com/
    A comprehensive cooking Web site with over 200,000 recipes,
    including a rec.food.recipes archive. By Valerie Whitmore.

    * http://www.lingualearn.co.uk/food.htm
    A collection of links to recipes, etc. of varius countries.

    * "http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm
    A Boke of Gode Cookery. A collection of Medieval recipes by James
    Matterer.

    * Copycat recipes or links to them are often requested on rfc. Two of
    the better known sites with such recipes are
    http://www.copykat.com
    and
    http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/.

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    8.2 Other cooking/food sites

    * http://www.epicurious.com/
    A general food site with a dictionary (THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION,
    by Sharon Tyler Herbst), recipes from well-known food magazines,
    etc.

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/
    Mimi's Cyber Kitchen, a general food site maintained by Mimi
    Hiller.

    * http://www-ang.kfunigraz.ac.at/~katzer/engl/index.html
    Gernot Katzer's Spice Pages, a Web spice encyclopedia, by Gernot
    Katzer.

    * http://www.foodsubs.com/ (and numerous mirrors)
    The Cook's Thesaurus. By Lori Alden. Suggests substitutions for
    thousands of cooking ingredients.

    * http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Island/3012/glossary.htm
    An A-Z glossary of Indian spices and cooking terms.

    * http://www.EuropeanCuisines.com/
    and
    http://www.owlsprings.com/the_balti_page/
    "European Cuisines" and "The Balti Page".
    By Peter Morwood & Diane Duane.

    * http://www.virtualquincy.com/quincy/recreation/recipes.html
    Directory listing of over 375 recipe and cooking websites.

    * http://www.reluctantgourmet.com/
    Cooking guide for beginner cooks.

    * http://labsoftware.com/cookbook/default.htm
    "Cooking for Graduate Students and and other beginning Kitchen
    Dwellers".

    * http://vsack.homepage.t-online.de/afa_faq.html
    Links to sites related to Asian food and cooking, as posted
    regularly to alt.food.asian by blacksalt.

    * http://www.whatscookingamerica.net/Glossary/GlossaryIndex2.htm
    Linda's Culinary Dictionary. By Linda Stradley. A listing and
    history of cooking, food, and beverage terms.

    * http://www.todine.net/dictionary.html
    Italian-English-French-Spanish-German Gastronomical Dictionary.

    * http://www.xs4all.nl/~margjos/
    English-French-German-Danish-Dutch food dictionary. By Jos and
    Marg Sparreboom.

    * http://www.theepicentre.com/glossary.html
    A glossary of spices, etc.

    * http://www.soupsong.com/ifoodta.html
    "Food tales, or everything you always wanted to know about the
    migration and lore of food."

    * http://www.breadworld.com/canada/tips/glossary/glossary.asp
    A glossary of baking terms maintained by Fleischmann's Yeast, a
    commercial entity.

    * http://www.mhr-viandes.com/en/docu/docu/d9000003.htm
    Multilingual meat and poultry glossaries.

    * http://www.aboutproduce.com/
    Recipes, nutrition info, selection tips for vegetables, fruits, nuts
    and herbs. By the Produce Marketing Association.

    * http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/rfe0.html
    Comprehensive, illustrated fish encylopaedia. An FDA resource.

    * http://navigator.tufts.edu/
    Tufts University Nutrition Navigator. Reviews and rating of
    nutrition information Web sites.

    * http://food.oregonstate.edu/glossary/all.html
    Science of Foods Glossary.

    * http://www.cahe.nmsu.edu/pubs/_e/e-131.pdf
    In A Pinch - Ingredient Substitution, a PDF file.

    * http://www.thousandeggs.com/cookbooks.html
    Links to old culinary & brewing documents online, by Cindy Renfrow.

    * http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/egg/fdnews.html
    A humongous list of culinary newsletters, magazines and journals.

    * http://www.azcentral.com/home/cooking101/
    Cooking 101.

    * http://www.gortons.com/cookbook/
    Gorton's fisherman's cookbook and fish glossary.

    * http://www.pipeline.com/~rosskat/
    A wealth of culinary information, resources, recipes, etc. on a
    rather disorganised site.

    * http://members.aol.com/Jwmike101/home.html
    Culinary resource desk. Lots of useful links.

    * http://www.psgrill.net/Encyclopedia/ENCYCLOPEDIA.html
    Large, useful food dictionary (but with some annoying
    mistranslations and misspellings).

    * http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/glossary/
    BBC's food glossary.

    * http://www.calacademy.org/research/anthropology/utensil/
    The History of Eating Utensils.

    * http://www.astaspice.org/history/history_main.htm
    ASTA's World of Spice - The history of the Spice Trade. By The
    American Spice Trade Association.

    * http://www.usmef.org/TradeLibrary/InternationalMeatManual.asp
    International Meat Manual. Corn-fed beef, grass-fed beef, veal,
    pork and lamb. In English, Japanese, Korean, Mandarin Chinese and
    Spanish. By the U.S. Meat Export Federation.

    * http://www.carnegielibrary.org/subject/food/
    Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh -- comprehensive Food and Cooking
    resource guide

    * http://www.bakingbusiness.com/refbook.asp
    The Encyclopedia of Baking offers reference, formulations and
    troubleshooting for common baking ingredients.

    ----------------------------------------
    9 Food newsgroups and mailing lists

    ----------------------------------------
    9.1 rec.food.cooking

    a.k.a. us: A group for the discussion of cooking in general. Recipes
    and requests for recipes are welcome here, as are discussions of cooking techniques, equipment, etc. In short, if it has to do with cooking, it probably belongs here - though that doesn't mean it doesn't belong
    somewhere else, too!

    ----------------------------------------
    9.2 rec.food.recipes

    A moderated newsgroup for recipes and requests for recipes. Each week a
    FAQ explains how to post recipes or requests. The lead moderator is
    Tracy Carman, <recipes@swcp.com>.
    The rfr moderators' software automatically sets followups to rfc.
    The reason is, no discussion is allowed in rfr - only recipes or
    requests for same. Since some people might wish to publicly discuss
    posted recipes notwithstanding, followups to rfc serve a useful purpose.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.3 rec.food.drink, rec.food.drink.beer, rec.food.drink.tea,
    rec.food.restaurants, rec.food.drink.coffee
    rec.food.sourdough, rec.food.historic

    Pretty self-explanatory.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.4 rec.food.veg

    About vegetarianism. It also has its own FAQ list, with questions about
    the myths and truths of the vegetarian diet, information on where to get "cruelty-free" products, etc.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.5 rec.food.veg.cooking

    A moderated version of rec.food.veg

    ----------------------------------------
    9.6 rec.food.preserving

    "Rec.food.preserving is a newsgroup devoted to the discussion of
    recipes, equipment, and techniques of food preservation. Current food preservation techniques that rightly should be discussed in this forum
    include canning, freezing, dehydration, pickling, smoking, salting,
    distilling, and potting. Foodstuffs are defined as produce (both fruits
    and vegetables), meat, fish, dairy products, culinary and medicinal
    herbs. Discussions should be limited to home-grown or home-preserved
    foods." (From the rec.food.preserving FAQ)

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    9.7 also...

    rec.crafts.winemaking
    rec.crafts.brewing
    alt.food
    alt.food.wine
    alt.coffee
    alt.food.asian
    alt.food.fat-free
    alt.food.low-fat
    alt.bacchus
    alt.food.mcdonalds (an oxymoron if ever I heard one)
    alt.food.coca-cola (mmmm....coca cola...)
    alt.food.chocolate
    alt.food.taco.bell
    alt.creative-cook
    alt.creative-cooking
    alt.cooking-chat
    alt.food.barbecue
    alt.2eggs.sausage.beans.tomatoes.2toast.largetea.cheerslove alt.food.mexican-cooking
    alt.food.sushi

    ----------------------------------------
    9.8 mailing lists

    A very popular mailing list is

    Chile-Heads

    Purpose: The Chile-Heads list is intended to provide a forum
    for discussion of matters relating to chile peppers; including,
    but not limited to:

    o Growing peppers
    o Seed and plant sources
    o Exchanges of seeds/plants/pods/etc.
    o Exotic varieties
    o Storing and preserving chiles
    o Recipes using chiles
    o Other related posts

    http://globalgarden.com/Chile-Heads/list_info.phtml

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List
    All messages posted to the list are emailed immediately to
    everyone on the list.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List
    The digest will save all email messages posted to the list for
    the day and send in one email message.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from
    ftp.globalgarden.com, in pub/Chile-Heads/digest/vNN.nMMM
    (where "NN" is the volume number, and "MMM" is the issue number).

    How to Unsubscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List or Digest
    Mailing List
    To unsubscribe send email to Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    or Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    (depending on which version of the list you are subscribed to)
    with the body of the message containing:
    UNSUBSCRIBE


    Another popular mailing list is

    Bread-Bakers

    The bread-bakers digest and daily-bread mailing lists are for the
    free exchange of recipes and information related to any and all
    aspects of bread baking, by hand or by machine.
    http://www.bread-bakers.com/

    To join the bread-bakers mailing list, send mail to
    bread-bakers-request@lists.bread-bakers.com In the body of the
    message, place, in lower case with no indentation, the single word:

    subscribe

    This will subscribe you at the address that your message is sent
    from. This is almost certainly your correct address. Bestserv will
    send you a message asking you to confirm your subscription request.
    You must reply to the message changing the word REJECT in the
    subject to ACCEPT. You will get a confirmation when your
    subscription has been accepted. If you have problems subscribing,
    please write to us at bread-bakers-owner@lists.bread-bakers.com
    and we will assist you.

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    10 Other culinary FAQs (thank you to Damsel in dis Dress)

    ----------------------------------------
    10.1 Foods

    * ftp://ftp.michvhf.com/pub/rec.food.baking/FAQ
    (rec.food.baking FAQ, by B. Keith Ryder)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/sourdough/faq/preamble.html
    (rec.food.sourdough FAQ, maintained by Darrell Greenwood)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/index2.html#faq
    (Meat FAQs: Foie gras, Pig processing, Venison processing, Elk and
    caribou, Wagyu and Kobe beef; by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.macscouter.com/Cooking/DutchOven.html
    (Dutch oven cooking)

    * http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/index.html
    (BBQ FAQ, by William W. Wight)

    * http://www.bbqguide.com/meat_smoking_and_curing_faq.htm
    (Meat smoking and curing FAQ, maintained by Richard Thead)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/preserving/part1/
    (rec.food.preserving FAQ, maintained by Eric Decker)

    * http://edible-complex.home.att.net/faq-spices.html
    (Spices FAQ, by Daniel M. Germán)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/culinary-herbs/part1/
    (Culinary herbs FAQ, maintained by Henriette Kress)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/truffles.html
    (Truffles (fungi) FAQ, by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/chocolate/faq/
    (Chocolate FAQ, by Monee Kidd)

    ----------------------------------------
    10.2 Beverages

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/caffeine-faq/
    (Coffee and caffeine FAQ, by Alex Lopez-Ortiz)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/tea/faq/
    (Tea FAQ, by Christopher Roberson)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/wine-faq/part1/
    (Wine FAQ, by Bradford S. Brown)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/crafts/winemaking-faq/
    (Winemaking FAQ, by Don Buchan)

    * http://www.beerinfo.com/rfdb/faq.html
    (Beer FAQ, by John A. Lock)

    * http://hbd.org/brewery/library/absfaq.html
    (Absinthe FAQ, by Matthew Baggott)

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    10.3 Religion, lifestyle and special diets

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/rfcj/kosherfaq.htm
    (Kosher food, by Pat Gold, Beth Greenfeld, and Ruth Heiges)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/vegetarian/faq/
    (rec.food.veg (vegetarian) FAQ, by Michael Traub)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/fatfree/faq/
    (Fat-free FAQ, by Michelle Dick)

    ----------------------------------------
    10.4 Miscellaneous

    * http://FAQs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/cooking/common-topics
    (Commonly discussed topics, by Stephanie da Silva)

    * http://www.thepurplehouse.net/wedding/cookware.txt
    (Cookware FAQ, by Oliver Sharp)

    * http://www.sff.net/people/pff/sharp.txt
    (Knife FAQs: Plain vs. serrated edges, Knife sharpening,
    Steel types, by Joe Talmadge)

    * http://www.survival-center.com/foodfaq/ff1-toc.htm
    (Food storage FAQ, by Alan T. Hagan)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sci/food-science-faq/part1/
    (Food science FAQ, by Rachel Zemser, J. Ralph Blanchfield, and Paul
    King)

    ----------------------------------------
    10.5 Humour

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/kool-aid-faq/
    (Kool-Aid FAQ, by Paul and Bess Dawson-Schmidt)

    * http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/bofh-food-faq
    (bofh.food FAQ, by J.D. Falk)

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    11 "Unofficial" rec.food.cooking Web site

    Damsel in dis Dress used to maintain what many people regarded as the 'unofficial' rec.food.cooking site, with sections devoted to rfc chat,
    rfc 'signature' dishes, rfc cook-in reports, and rfc birthdays.
    Chatty Cathy is currently in charge of the site, which contains all of
    the above and more, particularly a link to the rfc map set up by
    Christine Dabney. The site is located at
    http://www.recfoodcooking.org

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    12 Sources

    Lots of wonderful people helped compile this list - again, much
    acknowledgement is due to Cindy Kandolf for putting this entire thing
    together and to Amy Gale for maintaining it and adding to it for many
    years.

    ----------------------------------------
    12.1 Contributors

    The other wonderful people are :

    carolynd(at)sail.labs.tek.com
    ekman(at)netc.om.com
    arielle(at)aronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
    rs7x+(at)andrew.cmu.edu
    jane(at)cse.lbl.gov
    jonog(at)g2syd.genasys.com.au anita(at)devvax.mincom.oz.au sbookey(at)ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey) ccd(at)ccdadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au pmmuggli(at)uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu chu(at)acsu.buffalo.edu cdfk(at)otter.hpl.hp.com dudek(at)ksr.com aem(at)symbiosis.ahp.com wald(at)theory.lcs.mit.edu harvey(at)indyvax.iupui.edu ed(at)pa.dec.com ndkj(at)vax5.cit.cornell.edu ekman(at)netc.om.com
    otten(at)icase.edu jane(at)cse.lbl.gov loosemore-sandra(at)cs.yale.edu mworley(at)mathcs.emory.edu kts(at)michael.udev.cdc.com cc(at)dcs.edinburgh.ac.uk leander(at)ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
    cduff(at)sugar.NeoSoft.COM
    lvirden(at)cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
    hammond(at)niwot.scd.ucar.EDU (Steve Hammond)
    dfw(at)thumper.bellcore.com (Doris Woods)
    gibbsm(at)ll.mit.edu (MargAret D Gibbs)
    rickert(at)cco.caltech.edu (Keith Warren Rickert)
    Simon Kershaw Simon.Kershaw(at)Smallworld.co.uk
    Joel Offenberg offenbrg(at)trifle.gsfc.nasa.gov
    grant(at)oj.rsmas.miami.edu (Grant Basham)
    lmak(at)cbnewsf.cb.att.com (louisa.l.mak)
    twain(at)carson.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin) hz225wu(at)unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Micaela Pantke)
    sfisher(at)megatest.com (Scott Fisher)
    byrne(at)rcf.rsmas.miami.edu (Charlie Byrne)
    jmk5u(at)Virginia.EDU
    bae(at)gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Beverly Erlebacher) rlwilliams(at)gallua.gallaudet.edu (Skip) hwalden(at)science-store.chem.wayne.edu (Heather Walden)
    mcenter(at)amoco.com (Mike Center, PSC)
    kevin(at)eye.com (Kevin Stokker)
    steven(at)surya.cs.ucla.edu (Steven Berson)
    eric.decker(at)canrem.com (Eric Decker)
    peteo(at)ford.wpd.sgi.com (Peter Orelup)
    sk10003(at)cus.cam.ac.uk (Scott Kleinman)
    David Casseres casseres(at)apple.com Ted.Taylor(at)p4214.f104.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Taylor)
    george(at)dfds.ml.com (George Minkovsky)
    Alison(at)moose.demon.co.uk (Alison Scott)
    jae(at)world.std.com (Jon A Edelston)
    conrad(at)qpsx.oz.au (Conrad Drake)
    nadel(at)attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel)
    patricia(at)cs.utexas.edu (Patricia M. Burson)
    betsey(at)columbia.edu (Elizabeth Fike)
    leah(at)smith.chi.il.us (Leah Smith)
    steve(at)unipalm.co.uk (Steve Ladlow)
    STEVE SKHNY(at)CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
    "Sudheer Apte" apte(at)loki.hks.com
    Diane Ferrell, Leslie Basel
    rankin(at)scubed.com (Tom Rankin)
    vev(at)msen.com (Vince Vielhaber)
    HUYQ78A(at)prodigy.com (MS PHYLLIS T SPAETH)
    lenf(at)netc.om.com (Len Freedman)
    apforz(at)pfood.win.net (Andy Pforzheimer)
    wnukoski(at)crypt.erie.ge.com (George Wnukoski)
    Dan_Masi(at)Warren.mentorg.com
    robinc(at)oanet.com (Robin Cowdrey)
    merlin(at)ion.com.au (Merlin Zener)
    "Frank Fileccia" surplus(at)telusplanet.net
    "Rodger Whitlock" totototo(at)mail.pacificcoast.net
    Damsel in dis Dress damsel.in.dis.dress(at)gmail.com
    Shankar Bhattacharyya sbhattac(at)idt.net
    Sophie Laplante laplante(at)lri.fr
    Andrew Nicholson andrewn(at)lesto.com
    Ed Keith edkeith(at)home.com
    Read rweaver(at)igc.org
    T. Terrell Banks terry(at)banks-usa.com
    William Chuang wchuang(at)MIT.EDU
    Scott Jordan sjordan(at)ntrnet.net
    Terry Simpson terry(at)connected-systems.com
    Bill Boylan bill.boylan(at)cox.net
    Max Hauser maxREMOVE(at)THIStdl.com
    Vilco a(at)b.invalid
    Lyndon Watson teile(at)clear.net.nz

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    12.2 Bibliography

    This is a new section composed of the acknowledgements previously
    sprinkled through the text. More information on these books will be
    welcomed.

    1) "Trolldom in the Kitchen"
    Pat Bjaaland and Melody Favish

    2) "Larousse Gastronomique"
    ISBN 0 7493 0316 6

    Larousse Gastronomique
    The New American Edition of the World's Greatest Culinary
    Encyclopedia
    By Jenifer Harvey Lang
    Hardcover, 1193 pages
    ISBN: 0517570327
    List Price: $60.00
    Random House
    Publication Date: 10/01/88

    3) "Still Life with Menu" (K)
    Mollie Katzen
    Revised trade paperback 1995
    Still Life with Menu Cookbook
    Trade Paperback, 256 Pages, Revised, Ten Speed, March 1995
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk)
    Author: Katzen, Mollie
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk.)

    Still Life With Menu Cookbook by Katzen, Mollie
    fifty new meatless menus with original art
    Berkeley, California, Ten Speed Press, 1988
    ISBN 0898152569

    4) "Cookery in Colour" (P)
    Marguerite Patten

    5) "The Rotation Diet" (RD)

    6) "My Fun-to-cook-book" (S)
    Ursula Sedgwick

    7) "The New Food Lover's Companion"

    8) "Michel Guérard's Cuisine Minceur"
    Michel Guérard

    9) "Mastering the Art of French Cooking"
    Julia Child

    10) "The Oxford Companion to Food"
    Alan Davidson

    11) "Julia and Jacques Cooking At Home"
    by Julia Child and Jacques Pépin

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    Clean the wok with hot water and some form of scrubbing tool. The
    bamboo things they sometimes include actually work or one can use a
    nylon scrubbing pad (no brillo, SOS, or equivalent). After the wok is
    cleaned, put it back on the burner for a few minutes to heat it up and evaporate any moisture. Then, add a little oil to it and rub it around
    with a paper towel to keep it shiny and from rusting with any moisture
    it may attract in between uses.

    Another thing, when you are done cooking in the wok, put some water in
    it to soak while you eat. Cleanup takes just a few work with a nylon
    scrubbing pad and some hot water.

    Taking good care of your cookware only requires a few minutes of time
    and makes it much easier to use and cleanup. Food doesn't stick to a
    well seasoned wok. If it starts to stick, scrub it well with something
    like an S.O.S. pad and re-season.

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    5.2 Cast Iron (thank you to Tom Rankin)

    Summary:
    Make sure your cast iron is clean down to bare metal.
    Coat with fat, heat, repeat.
    Look after by never washing in soapy water and scrubbing as little as
    possible.

    Details:

    Initial cleaning: get off all the packaging oil, burnt food or
    whatever the pan has on it. Some suggestions for achieving this are
    - Wash in hot soapy water, dry thoroughly
    - Boil undiluted white vinegar in the pan for while
    - Commercial beadblasting (not sandblasting)
    - Steel wool
    - Hot embers
    - Kosher salt baked in the pan at 500°F (260°C) for 4 hours and
    scraped out again
    - Put in self-cleaning oven and turn on clean cycle

    Fats to use: a solid vegetable fat, or lard. Oil is not as suitable.

    Seasoning process: Wipe pot inside and out with melted fat. Do the lid
    too (if it's cast iron). At this point, authorities seem to diverge.
    The common theme is "get it hot and keep it hot for considerably more
    than an hour" (optionally followed by "re-coat it with fat during the process"). Two hours at 350°F (175°C), re-wiping with fat every
    30 minutes, seems sensible.

    When this has been done, the seasoning process has been begun but not
    yet completed. The first few times the pan is used, it should be for
    fairly fatty foods. Fried eggs rather than tomato soup, for example.

    Each time the pan is used, rinse with hot water and scrub if necessary.
    Don't scour or use detergent - otherwise you will need to re-season.
    Some people coat their cast iron very lightly with oil after washing,
    then wipe out after an initial heating next time they use it.

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    6 History and Lore of rec.food.cooking

    ----------------------------------------
    6.1 Origins of rec.food.cooking (thank you to Max Hauser)

    rec.food.cooking began as net.cooks, launched by friend and fellow food
    fanatic Steve Upstill in Berkeley in January 1982 with a posting on
    pragmatic pasta sauces, something Steve was then often cooking,
    including at my place. We were all cranking out a lot of fresh ribbon
    pasta with Atlas 150 (150mm) roller/cutter machines and we needed things
    to do with it. net.cooks became rec.food.cooking in the general Great
    Renaming (late 1986). Current Google archives show Steve's original
    29-Jan-82 posting, and also his 31-Jan-82 net.general announcement of net.cooks, "All about food, cooking, cookbooks, recipes and other
    alimentary effluvia." That was the "charter" of this newsgroup.
    (Discussions by the way using the specific language of newsgroup
    "charter" on net.cooks or rec.food.cooking don't appear until five years
    later in 1987, an exchange between Terry Sterkel, me, and Spafford,
    referring anyway to a different newsgroup.) Posted statistics also
    showed that net.cooks became popular immediately, one of the most
    popular newsgroups at the time. After the 1986 renaming, a Gene
    Spafford active-newsgroups list included rec.food.cooking with summary
    "Food, cooking, cookbooks, and recipes." Steve Upstill continued to
    contribute occasionally, and also to work on recipe-formatting software.
    I recall him commercializing a typesetting macro package ("-MU"), and
    recipe software for Mac platforms.

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    6.2 Some Higlights in the Life of rec.food.cooking

    - There have been quite a few rec.food.cooking cook-ins all over the
    USA, as well as a small one in Germany. The first one was hosted by
    Anne Bourget in Sacramento, California, in 1994.

    - Early in 1997, a rec.food.cooking T-shirt was produced, with the
    proceeds donated to charity. Some 220 T-shirts were sold to rfc'ers.

    - In 2002-3, a rec.food.cooking Cook.Book was published, also with the proceeds donated to charity (City Harvest, a NYC affiliate of Second
    Harvest) to help the victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. There were
    two printings, one late in 2002, the other early in 2003, and a total of
    about 740 copies were sold, also to rfc'ers.


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    6.3 What's all this about xxxx? (much of this section was copied
    verbatim from the rec.food.cooking MiniFAQ that the
    invaluable Amy Gale used to post - thank you, Amy)

    This section tries to cover a few of the most commonly confusing
    topics that may come up on the newsgroup.

    aluminium : has not been linked to Alzheimer's Disease in a
    reproducible experiment.

    Elbonia : a mythical country (probably in Eastern Europe). Comes
    from Scott Adams' "Dilbert", syndicated in newspapers and
    available at http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/

    Ingrid : Anne Bourget's Volvo, used for flattening chicken breasts.
    Now deceased, but the memory lives on.

    j/nghlm : a joke ingredient. Spelling varies.

    WWT : (Weekend With Tammy). Once upon a time, a long-time rfc
    poster named Tammy spent a weekend with another long-time
    poster who posted a long article describing their mainly
    food-related adventures. Some people took exception to
    that posting, complaining about the lack of recipes (which
    were posted separately). Many people now use the WWT
    acronym in the subject header to indicate a posting of
    similar nature.

    ObFood : 'obligatory food reference'. An old rfc tradition.
    Many people hold that, whenever one happens to post off
    topic, one is supposed to add something that has to do
    with food, ideally something that is actually interesting
    and/or useful.

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    7 This has come up once too often....

    This list is a (futile?) attempt to keep certain well-worn subjects from
    coming up yet again. Further suggestions always welcome.

    The $250 cookie recipe

    This recipe comes up often, usually here but also on other newsgroups
    (where it is even less appropriate). The story goes that a woman had a
    cookie at [usually Mrs. Field's or Neiman Marcus' cafe], and liked it
    so much she wanted the recipe. The clerk said "It will cost you
    two-fifty"; the woman thought that meant $2.50 and was shocked to find
    it meant $250. She is now spreading it to get revenge, since it was not returnable.

    There are a number of holes in the story, and no one has ever brought
    forth any evidence that it really happened. (If you want to argue that
    you know someone who knows someone who this really happened to, take it
    over to alt.folklore.urban, where they will proceed to have you for
    breakfast if you have no evidence.) More importantly, it has been
    posted more than enough times by now. Some people have tried the recipe
    and pronounced it good, but it ain't Mrs. Field's. If you would like
    the recipe, ask for someone to mail it to you.

    It has been pointed out to me that the recipe is in the standard source distribution for GNU Emacs and XEmacs. If your site has that source,
    look in the "etc" directory for a file named COOKIES.

    Most importantly, please DO NOT post it any more. There is also a Mrs
    Fields cookbook, published by Time-Life. This has recipes, but not the
    exact ones for the ones sold in the stores, as those recipes are not
    well suited to home baking.

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    8 Recipe archives and other cooking/food sites

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    8.1 Recipe archives

    There are hundreds, if not thousands, of recipe archives on the net.
    Here are some of the more popular and larger ones.

    * http://recipes.alastra.com/
    The official rec.food.recipes archive, maintained by Stephanie da
    Silva.

    * http://www.lysator.liu.se/etexts/recept/us/main.html
    Usenet Cookbook, a collection of old alt.gourmand recipes.

    * http://www.recipesource.com/
    SOAR - Searchable Online Archive of Recipes.

    * http://www.ichef.com/ichef-recipes/

    * http://www.cs.cmu.edu/%7Emjw/recipes/
    Amy Gale's recipe archives.

    * http://recipes.wenzel.net/
    RecipeLand.com's archive with 25000+ recipes.

    * http://www.astray.com/recipes/
    A searchable database of 76,000+ recipes, maintained by Leon
    Brocard.

    * http://www.recipecenter.com
    100,000+ recipes.

    * http://allrecipes.com/
    A large, searchable recipe archive.

    * http://home.uni-one.nl/the-cooking-page/
    The Cooking Page. Numerous recipe links classified by language
    (English, French, German, Dutch), by food course, and by cuisine.

    * http://www.oingo.com/topic/14/14336.html
    A well designed and functional searchable database of thousands of
    food and recipe links.

    * http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/topics/cook.htm
    Ancient and medieval recipes, and cooking and food links.

    * http://www.ajlc.waterloo.on.ca/Recipes/index.html
    A very large, meticulous index of recipes, with a search engine.

    * http://www.cdkitchen.com/
    A comprehensive cooking Web site with over 200,000 recipes,
    including a rec.food.recipes archive. By Valerie Whitmore.

    * http://www.lingualearn.co.uk/food.htm
    A collection of links to recipes, etc. of varius countries.

    * "http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm
    A Boke of Gode Cookery. A collection of Medieval recipes by James
    Matterer.

    * Copycat recipes or links to them are often requested on rfc. Two of
    the better known sites with such recipes are
    http://www.copykat.com
    and
    http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/.

    ----------------------------------------
    8.2 Other cooking/food sites

    * http://www.epicurious.com/
    A general food site with a dictionary (THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION,
    by Sharon Tyler Herbst), recipes from well-known food magazines,
    etc.

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/
    Mimi's Cyber Kitchen, a general food site maintained by Mimi
    Hiller.

    * http://www-ang.kfunigraz.ac.at/~katzer/engl/index.html
    Gernot Katzer's Spice Pages, a Web spice encyclopedia, by Gernot
    Katzer.

    * http://www.foodsubs.com/ (and numerous mirrors)
    The Cook's Thesaurus. By Lori Alden. Suggests substitutions for
    thousands of cooking ingredients.

    * http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Island/3012/glossary.htm
    An A-Z glossary of Indian spices and cooking terms.

    * http://www.EuropeanCuisines.com/
    and
    http://www.owlsprings.com/the_balti_page/
    "European Cuisines" and "The Balti Page".
    By Peter Morwood & Diane Duane.

    * http://www.virtualquincy.com/quincy/recreation/recipes.html
    Directory listing of over 375 recipe and cooking websites.

    * http://www.reluctantgourmet.com/
    Cooking guide for beginner cooks.

    * http://labsoftware.com/cookbook/default.htm
    "Cooking for Graduate Students and and other beginning Kitchen
    Dwellers".

    * http://vsack.homepage.t-online.de/afa_faq.html
    Links to sites related to Asian food and cooking, as posted
    regularly to alt.food.asian by blacksalt.

    * http://www.whatscookingamerica.net/Glossary/GlossaryIndex2.htm
    Linda's Culinary Dictionary. By Linda Stradley. A listing and
    history of cooking, food, and beverage terms.

    * http://www.todine.net/dictionary.html
    Italian-English-French-Spanish-German Gastronomical Dictionary.

    * http://www.xs4all.nl/~margjos/
    English-French-German-Danish-Dutch food dictionary. By Jos and
    Marg Sparreboom.

    * http://www.theepicentre.com/glossary.html
    A glossary of spices, etc.

    * http://www.soupsong.com/ifoodta.html
    "Food tales, or everything you always wanted to know about the
    migration and lore of food."

    * http://www.breadworld.com/canada/tips/glossary/glossary.asp
    A glossary of baking terms maintained by Fleischmann's Yeast, a
    commercial entity.

    * http://www.mhr-viandes.com/en/docu/docu/d9000003.htm
    Multilingual meat and poultry glossaries.

    * http://www.aboutproduce.com/
    Recipes, nutrition info, selection tips for vegetables, fruits, nuts
    and herbs. By the Produce Marketing Association.

    * http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/rfe0.html
    Comprehensive, illustrated fish encylopaedia. An FDA resource.

    * http://navigator.tufts.edu/
    Tufts University Nutrition Navigator. Reviews and rating of
    nutrition information Web sites.

    * http://food.oregonstate.edu/glossary/all.html
    Science of Foods Glossary.

    * http://www.cahe.nmsu.edu/pubs/_e/e-131.pdf
    In A Pinch - Ingredient Substitution, a PDF file.

    * http://www.thousandeggs.com/cookbooks.html
    Links to old culinary & brewing documents online, by Cindy Renfrow.

    * http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/egg/fdnews.html
    A humongous list of culinary newsletters, magazines and journals.

    * http://www.azcentral.com/home/cooking101/
    Cooking 101.

    * http://www.gortons.com/cookbook/
    Gorton's fisherman's cookbook and fish glossary.

    * http://www.pipeline.com/~rosskat/
    A wealth of culinary information, resources, recipes, etc. on a
    rather disorganised site.

    * http://members.aol.com/Jwmike101/home.html
    Culinary resource desk. Lots of useful links.

    * http://www.psgrill.net/Encyclopedia/ENCYCLOPEDIA.html
    Large, useful food dictionary (but with some annoying
    mistranslations and misspellings).

    * http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/glossary/
    BBC's food glossary.

    * http://www.calacademy.org/research/anthropology/utensil/
    The History of Eating Utensils.

    * http://www.astaspice.org/history/history_main.htm
    ASTA's World of Spice - The history of the Spice Trade. By The
    American Spice Trade Association.

    * http://www.usmef.org/TradeLibrary/InternationalMeatManual.asp
    International Meat Manual. Corn-fed beef, grass-fed beef, veal,
    pork and lamb. In English, Japanese, Korean, Mandarin Chinese and
    Spanish. By the U.S. Meat Export Federation.

    * http://www.carnegielibrary.org/subject/food/
    Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh -- comprehensive Food and Cooking
    resource guide

    * http://www.bakingbusiness.com/refbook.asp
    The Encyclopedia of Baking offers reference, formulations and
    troubleshooting for common baking ingredients.

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    9 Food newsgroups and mailing lists

    ----------------------------------------
    9.1 rec.food.cooking

    a.k.a. us: A group for the discussion of cooking in general. Recipes
    and requests for recipes are welcome here, as are discussions of cooking techniques, equipment, etc. In short, if it has to do with cooking, it probably belongs here - though that doesn't mean it doesn't belong
    somewhere else, too!

    ----------------------------------------
    9.2 rec.food.recipes

    A moderated newsgroup for recipes and requests for recipes. Each week a
    FAQ explains how to post recipes or requests. The lead moderator is
    Tracy Carman, <recipes@swcp.com>.
    The rfr moderators' software automatically sets followups to rfc.
    The reason is, no discussion is allowed in rfr - only recipes or
    requests for same. Since some people might wish to publicly discuss
    posted recipes notwithstanding, followups to rfc serve a useful purpose.

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    9.3 rec.food.drink, rec.food.drink.beer, rec.food.drink.tea,
    rec.food.restaurants, rec.food.drink.coffee
    rec.food.sourdough, rec.food.historic

    Pretty self-explanatory.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.4 rec.food.veg

    About vegetarianism. It also has its own FAQ list, with questions about
    the myths and truths of the vegetarian diet, information on where to get "cruelty-free" products, etc.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.5 rec.food.veg.cooking

    A moderated version of rec.food.veg

    ----------------------------------------
    9.6 rec.food.preserving

    "Rec.food.preserving is a newsgroup devoted to the discussion of
    recipes, equipment, and techniques of food preservation. Current food preservation techniques that rightly should be discussed in this forum
    include canning, freezing, dehydration, pickling, smoking, salting,
    distilling, and potting. Foodstuffs are defined as produce (both fruits
    and vegetables), meat, fish, dairy products, culinary and medicinal
    herbs. Discussions should be limited to home-grown or home-preserved
    foods." (From the rec.food.preserving FAQ)

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    9.7 also...

    rec.crafts.winemaking
    rec.crafts.brewing
    alt.food
    alt.food.wine
    alt.coffee
    alt.food.asian
    alt.food.fat-free
    alt.food.low-fat
    alt.bacchus
    alt.food.mcdonalds (an oxymoron if ever I heard one)
    alt.food.coca-cola (mmmm....coca cola...)
    alt.food.chocolate
    alt.food.taco.bell
    alt.creative-cook
    alt.creative-cooking
    alt.cooking-chat
    alt.food.barbecue
    alt.2eggs.sausage.beans.tomatoes.2toast.largetea.cheerslove alt.food.mexican-cooking
    alt.food.sushi

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    9.8 mailing lists

    A very popular mailing list is

    Chile-Heads

    Purpose: The Chile-Heads list is intended to provide a forum
    for discussion of matters relating to chile peppers; including,
    but not limited to:

    o Growing peppers
    o Seed and plant sources
    o Exchanges of seeds/plants/pods/etc.
    o Exotic varieties
    o Storing and preserving chiles
    o Recipes using chiles
    o Other related posts

    http://globalgarden.com/Chile-Heads/list_info.phtml

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List
    All messages posted to the list are emailed immediately to
    everyone on the list.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List
    The digest will save all email messages posted to the list for
    the day and send in one email message.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from
    ftp.globalgarden.com, in pub/Chile-Heads/digest/vNN.nMMM
    (where "NN" is the volume number, and "MMM" is the issue number).

    How to Unsubscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List or Digest
    Mailing List
    To unsubscribe send email to Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    or Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    (depending on which version of the list you are subscribed to)
    with the body of the message containing:
    UNSUBSCRIBE


    Another popular mailing list is

    Bread-Bakers

    The bread-bakers digest and daily-bread mailing lists are for the
    free exchange of recipes and information related to any and all
    aspects of bread baking, by hand or by machine.
    http://www.bread-bakers.com/

    To join the bread-bakers mailing list, send mail to
    bread-bakers-request@lists.bread-bakers.com In the body of the
    message, place, in lower case with no indentation, the single word:

    subscribe

    This will subscribe you at the address that your message is sent
    from. This is almost certainly your correct address. Bestserv will
    send you a message asking you to confirm your subscription request.
    You must reply to the message changing the word REJECT in the
    subject to ACCEPT. You will get a confirmation when your
    subscription has been accepted. If you have problems subscribing,
    please write to us at bread-bakers-owner@lists.bread-bakers.com
    and we will assist you.

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    10 Other culinary FAQs (thank you to Damsel in dis Dress)

    ----------------------------------------
    10.1 Foods

    * ftp://ftp.michvhf.com/pub/rec.food.baking/FAQ
    (rec.food.baking FAQ, by B. Keith Ryder)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/sourdough/faq/preamble.html
    (rec.food.sourdough FAQ, maintained by Darrell Greenwood)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/index2.html#faq
    (Meat FAQs: Foie gras, Pig processing, Venison processing, Elk and
    caribou, Wagyu and Kobe beef; by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.macscouter.com/Cooking/DutchOven.html
    (Dutch oven cooking)

    * http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/index.html
    (BBQ FAQ, by William W. Wight)

    * http://www.bbqguide.com/meat_smoking_and_curing_faq.htm
    (Meat smoking and curing FAQ, maintained by Richard Thead)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/preserving/part1/
    (rec.food.preserving FAQ, maintained by Eric Decker)

    * http://edible-complex.home.att.net/faq-spices.html
    (Spices FAQ, by Daniel M. Germán)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/culinary-herbs/part1/
    (Culinary herbs FAQ, maintained by Henriette Kress)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/truffles.html
    (Truffles (fungi) FAQ, by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/chocolate/faq/
    (Chocolate FAQ, by Monee Kidd)

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    10.2 Beverages

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/caffeine-faq/
    (Coffee and caffeine FAQ, by Alex Lopez-Ortiz)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/tea/faq/
    (Tea FAQ, by Christopher Roberson)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/wine-faq/part1/
    (Wine FAQ, by Bradford S. Brown)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/crafts/winemaking-faq/
    (Winemaking FAQ, by Don Buchan)

    * http://www.beerinfo.com/rfdb/faq.html
    (Beer FAQ, by John A. Lock)

    * http://hbd.org/brewery/library/absfaq.html
    (Absinthe FAQ, by Matthew Baggott)

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    10.3 Religion, lifestyle and special diets

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/rfcj/kosherfaq.htm
    (Kosher food, by Pat Gold, Beth Greenfeld, and Ruth Heiges)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/vegetarian/faq/
    (rec.food.veg (vegetarian) FAQ, by Michael Traub)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/fatfree/faq/
    (Fat-free FAQ, by Michelle Dick)

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    10.4 Miscellaneous

    * http://FAQs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/cooking/common-topics
    (Commonly discussed topics, by Stephanie da Silva)

    * http://www.thepurplehouse.net/wedding/cookware.txt
    (Cookware FAQ, by Oliver Sharp)

    * http://www.sff.net/people/pff/sharp.txt
    (Knife FAQs: Plain vs. serrated edges, Knife sharpening,
    Steel types, by Joe Talmadge)

    * http://www.survival-center.com/foodfaq/ff1-toc.htm
    (Food storage FAQ, by Alan T. Hagan)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sci/food-science-faq/part1/
    (Food science FAQ, by Rachel Zemser, J. Ralph Blanchfield, and Paul
    King)

    ----------------------------------------
    10.5 Humour

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/kool-aid-faq/
    (Kool-Aid FAQ, by Paul and Bess Dawson-Schmidt)

    * http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/bofh-food-faq
    (bofh.food FAQ, by J.D. Falk)

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    11 "Unofficial" rec.food.cooking Web site

    Damsel in dis Dress used to maintain what many people regarded as the 'unofficial' rec.food.cooking site, with sections devoted to rfc chat,
    rfc 'signature' dishes, rfc cook-in reports, and rfc birthdays.
    Chatty Cathy is currently in charge of the site, which contains all of
    the above and more, particularly a link to the rfc map set up by
    Christine Dabney. The site is located at
    http://www.recfoodcooking.org

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    12 Sources

    Lots of wonderful people helped compile this list - again, much
    acknowledgement is due to Cindy Kandolf for putting this entire thing
    together and to Amy Gale for maintaining it and adding to it for many
    years.

    ----------------------------------------
    12.1 Contributors

    The other wonderful people are :

    carolynd(at)sail.labs.tek.com
    ekman(at)netc.om.com
    arielle(at)aronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
    rs7x+(at)andrew.cmu.edu
    jane(at)cse.lbl.gov
    jonog(at)g2syd.genasys.com.au anita(at)devvax.mincom.oz.au sbookey(at)ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey) ccd(at)ccdadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au pmmuggli(at)uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu chu(at)acsu.buffalo.edu cdfk(at)otter.hpl.hp.com dudek(at)ksr.com aem(at)symbiosis.ahp.com wald(at)theory.lcs.mit.edu harvey(at)indyvax.iupui.edu ed(at)pa.dec.com ndkj(at)vax5.cit.cornell.edu ekman(at)netc.om.com
    otten(at)icase.edu jane(at)cse.lbl.gov loosemore-sandra(at)cs.yale.edu mworley(at)mathcs.emory.edu kts(at)michael.udev.cdc.com cc(at)dcs.edinburgh.ac.uk leander(at)ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
    cduff(at)sugar.NeoSoft.COM
    lvirden(at)cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
    hammond(at)niwot.scd.ucar.EDU (Steve Hammond)
    dfw(at)thumper.bellcore.com (Doris Woods)
    gibbsm(at)ll.mit.edu (MargAret D Gibbs)
    rickert(at)cco.caltech.edu (Keith Warren Rickert)
    Simon Kershaw Simon.Kershaw(at)Smallworld.co.uk
    Joel Offenberg offenbrg(at)trifle.gsfc.nasa.gov
    grant(at)oj.rsmas.miami.edu (Grant Basham)
    lmak(at)cbnewsf.cb.att.com (louisa.l.mak)
    twain(at)carson.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin) hz225wu(at)unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Micaela Pantke)
    sfisher(at)megatest.com (Scott Fisher)
    byrne(at)rcf.rsmas.miami.edu (Charlie Byrne)
    jmk5u(at)Virginia.EDU
    bae(at)gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Beverly Erlebacher) rlwilliams(at)gallua.gallaudet.edu (Skip) hwalden(at)science-store.chem.wayne.edu (Heather Walden)
    mcenter(at)amoco.com (Mike Center, PSC)
    kevin(at)eye.com (Kevin Stokker)
    steven(at)surya.cs.ucla.edu (Steven Berson)
    eric.decker(at)canrem.com (Eric Decker)
    peteo(at)ford.wpd.sgi.com (Peter Orelup)
    sk10003(at)cus.cam.ac.uk (Scott Kleinman)
    David Casseres casseres(at)apple.com Ted.Taylor(at)p4214.f104.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Taylor)
    george(at)dfds.ml.com (George Minkovsky)
    Alison(at)moose.demon.co.uk (Alison Scott)
    jae(at)world.std.com (Jon A Edelston)
    conrad(at)qpsx.oz.au (Conrad Drake)
    nadel(at)attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel)
    patricia(at)cs.utexas.edu (Patricia M. Burson)
    betsey(at)columbia.edu (Elizabeth Fike)
    leah(at)smith.chi.il.us (Leah Smith)
    steve(at)unipalm.co.uk (Steve Ladlow)
    STEVE SKHNY(at)CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
    "Sudheer Apte" apte(at)loki.hks.com
    Diane Ferrell, Leslie Basel
    rankin(at)scubed.com (Tom Rankin)
    vev(at)msen.com (Vince Vielhaber)
    HUYQ78A(at)prodigy.com (MS PHYLLIS T SPAETH)
    lenf(at)netc.om.com (Len Freedman)
    apforz(at)pfood.win.net (Andy Pforzheimer)
    wnukoski(at)crypt.erie.ge.com (George Wnukoski)
    Dan_Masi(at)Warren.mentorg.com
    robinc(at)oanet.com (Robin Cowdrey)
    merlin(at)ion.com.au (Merlin Zener)
    "Frank Fileccia" surplus(at)telusplanet.net
    "Rodger Whitlock" totototo(at)mail.pacificcoast.net
    Damsel in dis Dress damsel.in.dis.dress(at)gmail.com
    Shankar Bhattacharyya sbhattac(at)idt.net
    Sophie Laplante laplante(at)lri.fr
    Andrew Nicholson andrewn(at)lesto.com
    Ed Keith edkeith(at)home.com
    Read rweaver(at)igc.org
    T. Terrell Banks terry(at)banks-usa.com
    William Chuang wchuang(at)MIT.EDU
    Scott Jordan sjordan(at)ntrnet.net
    Terry Simpson terry(at)connected-systems.com
    Bill Boylan bill.boylan(at)cox.net
    Max Hauser maxREMOVE(at)THIStdl.com
    Vilco a(at)b.invalid
    Lyndon Watson teile(at)clear.net.nz

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    12.2 Bibliography

    This is a new section composed of the acknowledgements previously
    sprinkled through the text. More information on these books will be
    welcomed.

    1) "Trolldom in the Kitchen"
    Pat Bjaaland and Melody Favish

    2) "Larousse Gastronomique"
    ISBN 0 7493 0316 6

    Larousse Gastronomique
    The New American Edition of the World's Greatest Culinary
    Encyclopedia
    By Jenifer Harvey Lang
    Hardcover, 1193 pages
    ISBN: 0517570327
    List Price: $60.00
    Random House
    Publication Date: 10/01/88

    3) "Still Life with Menu" (K)
    Mollie Katzen
    Revised trade paperback 1995
    Still Life with Menu Cookbook
    Trade Paperback, 256 Pages, Revised, Ten Speed, March 1995
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk)
    Author: Katzen, Mollie
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk.)

    Still Life With Menu Cookbook by Katzen, Mollie
    fifty new meatless menus with original art
    Berkeley, California, Ten Speed Press, 1988
    ISBN 0898152569

    4) "Cookery in Colour" (P)
    Marguerite Patten

    5) "The Rotation Diet" (RD)

    6) "My Fun-to-cook-book" (S)
    Ursula Sedgwick

    7) "The New Food Lover's Companion"

    8) "Michel Guérard's Cuisine Minceur"
    Michel Guérard

    9) "Mastering the Art of French Cooking"
    Julia Child

    10) "The Oxford Companion to Food"
    Alan Davidson

    11) "Julia and Jacques Cooking At Home"
    by Julia Child and Jacques Pépin

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    Clean the wok with hot water and some form of scrubbing tool. The
    bamboo things they sometimes include actually work or one can use a
    nylon scrubbing pad (no brillo, SOS, or equivalent). After the wok is
    cleaned, put it back on the burner for a few minutes to heat it up and evaporate any moisture. Then, add a little oil to it and rub it around
    with a paper towel to keep it shiny and from rusting with any moisture
    it may attract in between uses.

    Another thing, when you are done cooking in the wok, put some water in
    it to soak while you eat. Cleanup takes just a few work with a nylon
    scrubbing pad and some hot water.

    Taking good care of your cookware only requires a few minutes of time
    and makes it much easier to use and cleanup. Food doesn't stick to a
    well seasoned wok. If it starts to stick, scrub it well with something
    like an S.O.S. pad and re-season.

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    5.2 Cast Iron (thank you to Tom Rankin)

    Summary:
    Make sure your cast iron is clean down to bare metal.
    Coat with fat, heat, repeat.
    Look after by never washing in soapy water and scrubbing as little as
    possible.

    Details:

    Initial cleaning: get off all the packaging oil, burnt food or
    whatever the pan has on it. Some suggestions for achieving this are
    - Wash in hot soapy water, dry thoroughly
    - Boil undiluted white vinegar in the pan for while
    - Commercial beadblasting (not sandblasting)
    - Steel wool
    - Hot embers
    - Kosher salt baked in the pan at 500°F (260°C) for 4 hours and
    scraped out again
    - Put in self-cleaning oven and turn on clean cycle

    Fats to use: a solid vegetable fat, or lard. Oil is not as suitable.

    Seasoning process: Wipe pot inside and out with melted fat. Do the lid
    too (if it's cast iron). At this point, authorities seem to diverge.
    The common theme is "get it hot and keep it hot for considerably more
    than an hour" (optionally followed by "re-coat it with fat during the process"). Two hours at 350°F (175°C), re-wiping with fat every
    30 minutes, seems sensible.

    When this has been done, the seasoning process has been begun but not
    yet completed. The first few times the pan is used, it should be for
    fairly fatty foods. Fried eggs rather than tomato soup, for example.

    Each time the pan is used, rinse with hot water and scrub if necessary.
    Don't scour or use detergent - otherwise you will need to re-season.
    Some people coat their cast iron very lightly with oil after washing,
    then wipe out after an initial heating next time they use it.

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    6 History and Lore of rec.food.cooking

    ----------------------------------------
    6.1 Origins of rec.food.cooking (thank you to Max Hauser)

    rec.food.cooking began as net.cooks, launched by friend and fellow food
    fanatic Steve Upstill in Berkeley in January 1982 with a posting on
    pragmatic pasta sauces, something Steve was then often cooking,
    including at my place. We were all cranking out a lot of fresh ribbon
    pasta with Atlas 150 (150mm) roller/cutter machines and we needed things
    to do with it. net.cooks became rec.food.cooking in the general Great
    Renaming (late 1986). Current Google archives show Steve's original
    29-Jan-82 posting, and also his 31-Jan-82 net.general announcement of net.cooks, "All about food, cooking, cookbooks, recipes and other
    alimentary effluvia." That was the "charter" of this newsgroup.
    (Discussions by the way using the specific language of newsgroup
    "charter" on net.cooks or rec.food.cooking don't appear until five years
    later in 1987, an exchange between Terry Sterkel, me, and Spafford,
    referring anyway to a different newsgroup.) Posted statistics also
    showed that net.cooks became popular immediately, one of the most
    popular newsgroups at the time. After the 1986 renaming, a Gene
    Spafford active-newsgroups list included rec.food.cooking with summary
    "Food, cooking, cookbooks, and recipes." Steve Upstill continued to
    contribute occasionally, and also to work on recipe-formatting software.
    I recall him commercializing a typesetting macro package ("-MU"), and
    recipe software for Mac platforms.

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    6.2 Some Higlights in the Life of rec.food.cooking

    - There have been quite a few rec.food.cooking cook-ins all over the
    USA, as well as a small one in Germany. The first one was hosted by
    Anne Bourget in Sacramento, California, in 1994.

    - Early in 1997, a rec.food.cooking T-shirt was produced, with the
    proceeds donated to charity. Some 220 T-shirts were sold to rfc'ers.

    - In 2002-3, a rec.food.cooking Cook.Book was published, also with the proceeds donated to charity (City Harvest, a NYC affiliate of Second
    Harvest) to help the victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. There were
    two printings, one late in 2002, the other early in 2003, and a total of
    about 740 copies were sold, also to rfc'ers.


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    6.3 What's all this about xxxx? (much of this section was copied
    verbatim from the rec.food.cooking MiniFAQ that the
    invaluable Amy Gale used to post - thank you, Amy)

    This section tries to cover a few of the most commonly confusing
    topics that may come up on the newsgroup.

    aluminium : has not been linked to Alzheimer's Disease in a
    reproducible experiment.

    Elbonia : a mythical country (probably in Eastern Europe). Comes
    from Scott Adams' "Dilbert", syndicated in newspapers and
    available at http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/

    Ingrid : Anne Bourget's Volvo, used for flattening chicken breasts.
    Now deceased, but the memory lives on.

    j/nghlm : a joke ingredient. Spelling varies.

    WWT : (Weekend With Tammy). Once upon a time, a long-time rfc
    poster named Tammy spent a weekend with another long-time
    poster who posted a long article describing their mainly
    food-related adventures. Some people took exception to
    that posting, complaining about the lack of recipes (which
    were posted separately). Many people now use the WWT
    acronym in the subject header to indicate a posting of
    similar nature.

    ObFood : 'obligatory food reference'. An old rfc tradition.
    Many people hold that, whenever one happens to post off
    topic, one is supposed to add something that has to do
    with food, ideally something that is actually interesting
    and/or useful.

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    7 This has come up once too often....

    This list is a (futile?) attempt to keep certain well-worn subjects from
    coming up yet again. Further suggestions always welcome.

    The $250 cookie recipe

    This recipe comes up often, usually here but also on other newsgroups
    (where it is even less appropriate). The story goes that a woman had a
    cookie at [usually Mrs. Field's or Neiman Marcus' cafe], and liked it
    so much she wanted the recipe. The clerk said "It will cost you
    two-fifty"; the woman thought that meant $2.50 and was shocked to find
    it meant $250. She is now spreading it to get revenge, since it was not returnable.

    There are a number of holes in the story, and no one has ever brought
    forth any evidence that it really happened. (If you want to argue that
    you know someone who knows someone who this really happened to, take it
    over to alt.folklore.urban, where they will proceed to have you for
    breakfast if you have no evidence.) More importantly, it has been
    posted more than enough times by now. Some people have tried the recipe
    and pronounced it good, but it ain't Mrs. Field's. If you would like
    the recipe, ask for someone to mail it to you.

    It has been pointed out to me that the recipe is in the standard source distribution for GNU Emacs and XEmacs. If your site has that source,
    look in the "etc" directory for a file named COOKIES.

    Most importantly, please DO NOT post it any more. There is also a Mrs
    Fields cookbook, published by Time-Life. This has recipes, but not the
    exact ones for the ones sold in the stores, as those recipes are not
    well suited to home baking.

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    8 Recipe archives and other cooking/food sites

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    8.1 Recipe archives

    There are hundreds, if not thousands, of recipe archives on the net.
    Here are some of the more popular and larger ones.

    * http://recipes.alastra.com/
    The official rec.food.recipes archive, maintained by Stephanie da
    Silva.

    * http://www.lysator.liu.se/etexts/recept/us/main.html
    Usenet Cookbook, a collection of old alt.gourmand recipes.

    * http://www.recipesource.com/
    SOAR - Searchable Online Archive of Recipes.

    * http://www.ichef.com/ichef-recipes/

    * http://www.cs.cmu.edu/%7Emjw/recipes/
    Amy Gale's recipe archives.

    * http://recipes.wenzel.net/
    RecipeLand.com's archive with 25000+ recipes.

    * http://www.astray.com/recipes/
    A searchable database of 76,000+ recipes, maintained by Leon
    Brocard.

    * http://www.recipecenter.com
    100,000+ recipes.

    * http://allrecipes.com/
    A large, searchable recipe archive.

    * http://home.uni-one.nl/the-cooking-page/
    The Cooking Page. Numerous recipe links classified by language
    (English, French, German, Dutch), by food course, and by cuisine.

    * http://www.oingo.com/topic/14/14336.html
    A well designed and functional searchable database of thousands of
    food and recipe links.

    * http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/topics/cook.htm
    Ancient and medieval recipes, and cooking and food links.

    * http://www.ajlc.waterloo.on.ca/Recipes/index.html
    A very large, meticulous index of recipes, with a search engine.

    * http://www.cdkitchen.com/
    A comprehensive cooking Web site with over 200,000 recipes,
    including a rec.food.recipes archive. By Valerie Whitmore.

    * http://www.lingualearn.co.uk/food.htm
    A collection of links to recipes, etc. of varius countries.

    * "http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm
    A Boke of Gode Cookery. A collection of Medieval recipes by James
    Matterer.

    * Copycat recipes or links to them are often requested on rfc. Two of
    the better known sites with such recipes are
    http://www.copykat.com
    and
    http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/.

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    8.2 Other cooking/food sites

    * http://www.epicurious.com/
    A general food site with a dictionary (THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION,
    by Sharon Tyler Herbst), recipes from well-known food magazines,
    etc.

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/
    Mimi's Cyber Kitchen, a general food site maintained by Mimi
    Hiller.

    * http://www-ang.kfunigraz.ac.at/~katzer/engl/index.html
    Gernot Katzer's Spice Pages, a Web spice encyclopedia, by Gernot
    Katzer.

    * http://www.foodsubs.com/ (and numerous mirrors)
    The Cook's Thesaurus. By Lori Alden. Suggests substitutions for
    thousands of cooking ingredients.

    * http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Island/3012/glossary.htm
    An A-Z glossary of Indian spices and cooking terms.

    * http://www.EuropeanCuisines.com/
    and
    http://www.owlsprings.com/the_balti_page/
    "European Cuisines" and "The Balti Page".
    By Peter Morwood & Diane Duane.

    * http://www.virtualquincy.com/quincy/recreation/recipes.html
    Directory listing of over 375 recipe and cooking websites.

    * http://www.reluctantgourmet.com/
    Cooking guide for beginner cooks.

    * http://labsoftware.com/cookbook/default.htm
    "Cooking for Graduate Students and and other beginning Kitchen
    Dwellers".

    * http://vsack.homepage.t-online.de/afa_faq.html
    Links to sites related to Asian food and cooking, as posted
    regularly to alt.food.asian by blacksalt.

    * http://www.whatscookingamerica.net/Glossary/GlossaryIndex2.htm
    Linda's Culinary Dictionary. By Linda Stradley. A listing and
    history of cooking, food, and beverage terms.

    * http://www.todine.net/dictionary.html
    Italian-English-French-Spanish-German Gastronomical Dictionary.

    * http://www.xs4all.nl/~margjos/
    English-French-German-Danish-Dutch food dictionary. By Jos and
    Marg Sparreboom.

    * http://www.theepicentre.com/glossary.html
    A glossary of spices, etc.

    * http://www.soupsong.com/ifoodta.html
    "Food tales, or everything you always wanted to know about the
    migration and lore of food."

    * http://www.breadworld.com/canada/tips/glossary/glossary.asp
    A glossary of baking terms maintained by Fleischmann's Yeast, a
    commercial entity.

    * http://www.mhr-viandes.com/en/docu/docu/d9000003.htm
    Multilingual meat and poultry glossaries.

    * http://www.aboutproduce.com/
    Recipes, nutrition info, selection tips for vegetables, fruits, nuts
    and herbs. By the Produce Marketing Association.

    * http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/rfe0.html
    Comprehensive, illustrated fish encylopaedia. An FDA resource.

    * http://navigator.tufts.edu/
    Tufts University Nutrition Navigator. Reviews and rating of
    nutrition information Web sites.

    * http://food.oregonstate.edu/glossary/all.html
    Science of Foods Glossary.

    * http://www.cahe.nmsu.edu/pubs/_e/e-131.pdf
    In A Pinch - Ingredient Substitution, a PDF file.

    * http://www.thousandeggs.com/cookbooks.html
    Links to old culinary & brewing documents online, by Cindy Renfrow.

    * http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/egg/fdnews.html
    A humongous list of culinary newsletters, magazines and journals.

    * http://www.azcentral.com/home/cooking101/
    Cooking 101.

    * http://www.gortons.com/cookbook/
    Gorton's fisherman's cookbook and fish glossary.

    * http://www.pipeline.com/~rosskat/
    A wealth of culinary information, resources, recipes, etc. on a
    rather disorganised site.

    * http://members.aol.com/Jwmike101/home.html
    Culinary resource desk. Lots of useful links.

    * http://www.psgrill.net/Encyclopedia/ENCYCLOPEDIA.html
    Large, useful food dictionary (but with some annoying
    mistranslations and misspellings).

    * http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/glossary/
    BBC's food glossary.

    * http://www.calacademy.org/research/anthropology/utensil/
    The History of Eating Utensils.

    * http://www.astaspice.org/history/history_main.htm
    ASTA's World of Spice - The history of the Spice Trade. By The
    American Spice Trade Association.

    * http://www.usmef.org/TradeLibrary/InternationalMeatManual.asp
    International Meat Manual. Corn-fed beef, grass-fed beef, veal,
    pork and lamb. In English, Japanese, Korean, Mandarin Chinese and
    Spanish. By the U.S. Meat Export Federation.

    * http://www.carnegielibrary.org/subject/food/
    Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh -- comprehensive Food and Cooking
    resource guide

    * http://www.bakingbusiness.com/refbook.asp
    The Encyclopedia of Baking offers reference, formulations and
    troubleshooting for common baking ingredients.

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    9 Food newsgroups and mailing lists

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    9.1 rec.food.cooking

    a.k.a. us: A group for the discussion of cooking in general. Recipes
    and requests for recipes are welcome here, as are discussions of cooking techniques, equipment, etc. In short, if it has to do with cooking, it probably belongs here - though that doesn't mean it doesn't belong
    somewhere else, too!

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    9.2 rec.food.recipes

    A moderated newsgroup for recipes and requests for recipes. Each week a
    FAQ explains how to post recipes or requests. The lead moderator is
    Tracy Carman, <recipes@swcp.com>.
    The rfr moderators' software automatically sets followups to rfc.
    The reason is, no discussion is allowed in rfr - only recipes or
    requests for same. Since some people might wish to publicly discuss
    posted recipes notwithstanding, followups to rfc serve a useful purpose.

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    9.3 rec.food.drink, rec.food.drink.beer, rec.food.drink.tea,
    rec.food.restaurants, rec.food.drink.coffee
    rec.food.sourdough, rec.food.historic

    Pretty self-explanatory.

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    9.4 rec.food.veg

    About vegetarianism. It also has its own FAQ list, with questions about
    the myths and truths of the vegetarian diet, information on where to get "cruelty-free" products, etc.

    ----------------------------------------
    9.5 rec.food.veg.cooking

    A moderated version of rec.food.veg

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    9.6 rec.food.preserving

    "Rec.food.preserving is a newsgroup devoted to the discussion of
    recipes, equipment, and techniques of food preservation. Current food preservation techniques that rightly should be discussed in this forum
    include canning, freezing, dehydration, pickling, smoking, salting,
    distilling, and potting. Foodstuffs are defined as produce (both fruits
    and vegetables), meat, fish, dairy products, culinary and medicinal
    herbs. Discussions should be limited to home-grown or home-preserved
    foods." (From the rec.food.preserving FAQ)

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    9.7 also...

    rec.crafts.winemaking
    rec.crafts.brewing
    alt.food
    alt.food.wine
    alt.coffee
    alt.food.asian
    alt.food.fat-free
    alt.food.low-fat
    alt.bacchus
    alt.food.mcdonalds (an oxymoron if ever I heard one)
    alt.food.coca-cola (mmmm....coca cola...)
    alt.food.chocolate
    alt.food.taco.bell
    alt.creative-cook
    alt.creative-cooking
    alt.cooking-chat
    alt.food.barbecue
    alt.2eggs.sausage.beans.tomatoes.2toast.largetea.cheerslove alt.food.mexican-cooking
    alt.food.sushi

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    9.8 mailing lists

    A very popular mailing list is

    Chile-Heads

    Purpose: The Chile-Heads list is intended to provide a forum
    for discussion of matters relating to chile peppers; including,
    but not limited to:

    o Growing peppers
    o Seed and plant sources
    o Exchanges of seeds/plants/pods/etc.
    o Exotic varieties
    o Storing and preserving chiles
    o Recipes using chiles
    o Other related posts

    http://globalgarden.com/Chile-Heads/list_info.phtml

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List
    All messages posted to the list are emailed immediately to
    everyone on the list.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    How to Subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List
    The digest will save all email messages posted to the list for
    the day and send in one email message.
    To subscribe to the Chile-Heads Digest Mailing List, send email to
    Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    and in the body of the message, put
    SUBSCRIBE

    Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from
    ftp.globalgarden.com, in pub/Chile-Heads/digest/vNN.nMMM
    (where "NN" is the volume number, and "MMM" is the issue number).

    How to Unsubscribe to the Chile-Heads Mailing List or Digest
    Mailing List
    To unsubscribe send email to Chile-Heads-request@GlobalGarden.com
    or Chile-Heads-digest-request@GlobalGarden.com
    (depending on which version of the list you are subscribed to)
    with the body of the message containing:
    UNSUBSCRIBE


    Another popular mailing list is

    Bread-Bakers

    The bread-bakers digest and daily-bread mailing lists are for the
    free exchange of recipes and information related to any and all
    aspects of bread baking, by hand or by machine.
    http://www.bread-bakers.com/

    To join the bread-bakers mailing list, send mail to
    bread-bakers-request@lists.bread-bakers.com In the body of the
    message, place, in lower case with no indentation, the single word:

    subscribe

    This will subscribe you at the address that your message is sent
    from. This is almost certainly your correct address. Bestserv will
    send you a message asking you to confirm your subscription request.
    You must reply to the message changing the word REJECT in the
    subject to ACCEPT. You will get a confirmation when your
    subscription has been accepted. If you have problems subscribing,
    please write to us at bread-bakers-owner@lists.bread-bakers.com
    and we will assist you.

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    10 Other culinary FAQs (thank you to Damsel in dis Dress)

    ----------------------------------------
    10.1 Foods

    * ftp://ftp.michvhf.com/pub/rec.food.baking/FAQ
    (rec.food.baking FAQ, by B. Keith Ryder)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/sourdough/faq/preamble.html
    (rec.food.sourdough FAQ, maintained by Darrell Greenwood)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/index2.html#faq
    (Meat FAQs: Foie gras, Pig processing, Venison processing, Elk and
    caribou, Wagyu and Kobe beef; by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.macscouter.com/Cooking/DutchOven.html
    (Dutch oven cooking)

    * http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/index.html
    (BBQ FAQ, by William W. Wight)

    * http://www.bbqguide.com/meat_smoking_and_curing_faq.htm
    (Meat smoking and curing FAQ, maintained by Richard Thead)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/preserving/part1/
    (rec.food.preserving FAQ, maintained by Eric Decker)

    * http://edible-complex.home.att.net/faq-spices.html
    (Spices FAQ, by Daniel M. Germán)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/culinary-herbs/part1/
    (Culinary herbs FAQ, maintained by Henriette Kress)

    * http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/truffles.html
    (Truffles (fungi) FAQ, by Tanith Tyrr)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/chocolate/faq/
    (Chocolate FAQ, by Monee Kidd)

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    10.2 Beverages

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/caffeine-faq/
    (Coffee and caffeine FAQ, by Alex Lopez-Ortiz)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/tea/faq/
    (Tea FAQ, by Christopher Roberson)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drink/wine-faq/part1/
    (Wine FAQ, by Bradford S. Brown)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/crafts/winemaking-faq/
    (Winemaking FAQ, by Don Buchan)

    * http://www.beerinfo.com/rfdb/faq.html
    (Beer FAQ, by John A. Lock)

    * http://hbd.org/brewery/library/absfaq.html
    (Absinthe FAQ, by Matthew Baggott)

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    10.3 Religion, lifestyle and special diets

    * http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/rfcj/kosherfaq.htm
    (Kosher food, by Pat Gold, Beth Greenfeld, and Ruth Heiges)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/vegetarian/faq/
    (rec.food.veg (vegetarian) FAQ, by Michael Traub)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/fatfree/faq/
    (Fat-free FAQ, by Michelle Dick)

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    10.4 Miscellaneous

    * http://FAQs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/cooking/common-topics
    (Commonly discussed topics, by Stephanie da Silva)

    * http://www.thepurplehouse.net/wedding/cookware.txt
    (Cookware FAQ, by Oliver Sharp)

    * http://www.sff.net/people/pff/sharp.txt
    (Knife FAQs: Plain vs. serrated edges, Knife sharpening,
    Steel types, by Joe Talmadge)

    * http://www.survival-center.com/foodfaq/ff1-toc.htm
    (Food storage FAQ, by Alan T. Hagan)

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sci/food-science-faq/part1/
    (Food science FAQ, by Rachel Zemser, J. Ralph Blanchfield, and Paul
    King)

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    10.5 Humour

    * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/kool-aid-faq/
    (Kool-Aid FAQ, by Paul and Bess Dawson-Schmidt)

    * http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/bofh-food-faq
    (bofh.food FAQ, by J.D. Falk)

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    11 "Unofficial" rec.food.cooking Web site

    Damsel in dis Dress used to maintain what many people regarded as the 'unofficial' rec.food.cooking site, with sections devoted to rfc chat,
    rfc 'signature' dishes, rfc cook-in reports, and rfc birthdays.
    Chatty Cathy is currently in charge of the site, which contains all of
    the above and more, particularly a link to the rfc map set up by
    Christine Dabney. The site is located at
    http://www.recfoodcooking.org

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    12 Sources

    Lots of wonderful people helped compile this list - again, much
    acknowledgement is due to Cindy Kandolf for putting this entire thing
    together and to Amy Gale for maintaining it and adding to it for many
    years.

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    12.1 Contributors

    The other wonderful people are :

    carolynd(at)sail.labs.tek.com
    ekman(at)netc.om.com
    arielle(at)aronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
    rs7x+(at)andrew.cmu.edu
    jane(at)cse.lbl.gov
    jonog(at)g2syd.genasys.com.au anita(at)devvax.mincom.oz.au sbookey(at)ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey) ccd(at)ccdadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au pmmuggli(at)uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu chu(at)acsu.buffalo.edu cdfk(at)otter.hpl.hp.com dudek(at)ksr.com aem(at)symbiosis.ahp.com wald(at)theory.lcs.mit.edu harvey(at)indyvax.iupui.edu ed(at)pa.dec.com ndkj(at)vax5.cit.cornell.edu ekman(at)netc.om.com
    otten(at)icase.edu jane(at)cse.lbl.gov loosemore-sandra(at)cs.yale.edu mworley(at)mathcs.emory.edu kts(at)michael.udev.cdc.com cc(at)dcs.edinburgh.ac.uk leander(at)ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
    cduff(at)sugar.NeoSoft.COM
    lvirden(at)cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
    hammond(at)niwot.scd.ucar.EDU (Steve Hammond)
    dfw(at)thumper.bellcore.com (Doris Woods)
    gibbsm(at)ll.mit.edu (MargAret D Gibbs)
    rickert(at)cco.caltech.edu (Keith Warren Rickert)
    Simon Kershaw Simon.Kershaw(at)Smallworld.co.uk
    Joel Offenberg offenbrg(at)trifle.gsfc.nasa.gov
    grant(at)oj.rsmas.miami.edu (Grant Basham)
    lmak(at)cbnewsf.cb.att.com (louisa.l.mak)
    twain(at)carson.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin) hz225wu(at)unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Micaela Pantke)
    sfisher(at)megatest.com (Scott Fisher)
    byrne(at)rcf.rsmas.miami.edu (Charlie Byrne)
    jmk5u(at)Virginia.EDU
    bae(at)gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Beverly Erlebacher) rlwilliams(at)gallua.gallaudet.edu (Skip) hwalden(at)science-store.chem.wayne.edu (Heather Walden)
    mcenter(at)amoco.com (Mike Center, PSC)
    kevin(at)eye.com (Kevin Stokker)
    steven(at)surya.cs.ucla.edu (Steven Berson)
    eric.decker(at)canrem.com (Eric Decker)
    peteo(at)ford.wpd.sgi.com (Peter Orelup)
    sk10003(at)cus.cam.ac.uk (Scott Kleinman)
    David Casseres casseres(at)apple.com Ted.Taylor(at)p4214.f104.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Taylor)
    george(at)dfds.ml.com (George Minkovsky)
    Alison(at)moose.demon.co.uk (Alison Scott)
    jae(at)world.std.com (Jon A Edelston)
    conrad(at)qpsx.oz.au (Conrad Drake)
    nadel(at)attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel)
    patricia(at)cs.utexas.edu (Patricia M. Burson)
    betsey(at)columbia.edu (Elizabeth Fike)
    leah(at)smith.chi.il.us (Leah Smith)
    steve(at)unipalm.co.uk (Steve Ladlow)
    STEVE SKHNY(at)CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
    "Sudheer Apte" apte(at)loki.hks.com
    Diane Ferrell, Leslie Basel
    rankin(at)scubed.com (Tom Rankin)
    vev(at)msen.com (Vince Vielhaber)
    HUYQ78A(at)prodigy.com (MS PHYLLIS T SPAETH)
    lenf(at)netc.om.com (Len Freedman)
    apforz(at)pfood.win.net (Andy Pforzheimer)
    wnukoski(at)crypt.erie.ge.com (George Wnukoski)
    Dan_Masi(at)Warren.mentorg.com
    robinc(at)oanet.com (Robin Cowdrey)
    merlin(at)ion.com.au (Merlin Zener)
    "Frank Fileccia" surplus(at)telusplanet.net
    "Rodger Whitlock" totototo(at)mail.pacificcoast.net
    Damsel in dis Dress damsel.in.dis.dress(at)gmail.com
    Shankar Bhattacharyya sbhattac(at)idt.net
    Sophie Laplante laplante(at)lri.fr
    Andrew Nicholson andrewn(at)lesto.com
    Ed Keith edkeith(at)home.com
    Read rweaver(at)igc.org
    T. Terrell Banks terry(at)banks-usa.com
    William Chuang wchuang(at)MIT.EDU
    Scott Jordan sjordan(at)ntrnet.net
    Terry Simpson terry(at)connected-systems.com
    Bill Boylan bill.boylan(at)cox.net
    Max Hauser maxREMOVE(at)THIStdl.com
    Vilco a(at)b.invalid
    Lyndon Watson teile(at)clear.net.nz

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    12.2 Bibliography

    This is a new section composed of the acknowledgements previously
    sprinkled through the text. More information on these books will be
    welcomed.

    1) "Trolldom in the Kitchen"
    Pat Bjaaland and Melody Favish

    2) "Larousse Gastronomique"
    ISBN 0 7493 0316 6

    Larousse Gastronomique
    The New American Edition of the World's Greatest Culinary
    Encyclopedia
    By Jenifer Harvey Lang
    Hardcover, 1193 pages
    ISBN: 0517570327
    List Price: $60.00
    Random House
    Publication Date: 10/01/88

    3) "Still Life with Menu" (K)
    Mollie Katzen
    Revised trade paperback 1995
    Still Life with Menu Cookbook
    Trade Paperback, 256 Pages, Revised, Ten Speed, March 1995
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk)
    Author: Katzen, Mollie
    ISBN: 0898156696 (pbk.)

    Still Life With Menu Cookbook by Katzen, Mollie
    fifty new meatless menus with original art
    Berkeley, California, Ten Speed Press, 1988
    ISBN 0898152569

    4) "Cookery in Colour" (P)
    Marguerite Patten

    5) "The Rotation Diet" (RD)

    6) "My Fun-to-cook-book" (S)
    Ursula Sedgwick

    7) "The New Food Lover's Companion"

    8) "Michel Guérard's Cuisine Minceur"
    Michel Guérard

    9) "Mastering the Art of French Cooking"
    Julia Child

    10) "The Oxford Companion to Food"
    Alan Davidson

    11) "Julia and Jacques Cooking At Home"
    by Julia Child and Jacques Pépin

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