• Re: OT: New best blackberry plant

    From GM@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Wed Mar 27 13:08:47 2024
    BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Unsurprisingly, it's from the University of Arkansas' breeders. It's released as a Stark Brothers exclusive, with the name Black Gem (tm). https://www.starkbros.com/products/berry-plants/blackberry-plants/stark-black-gem-blackberry

    Stark Brothers is located in Louisiana, Missouri, just downriver, maybe
    a one day's float on a raft from Hannibal. Hmmm? Black Gem.
    Seriously though, this is the pinnacle of blackberry breeding so far,
    though it might not be perfect for some because it is thornless, which
    makes it vulnerable to getting eaten by those pesky deer.

    The best thorny alternatives are Prime-Ark Horizon (if you can find it
    for sale), or Prime-Ark 45.

    You got some pesky deer by you, Bryan...???

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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 27 09:24:09 2024
    On 3/27/2024 8:08 AM, GM wrote:
    BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Unsurprisingly, it's from the University of Arkansas' breeders.  It's
    released as a Stark Brothers exclusive, with the name Black Gem (tm).
    https://www.starkbros.com/products/berry-plants/blackberry-plants/stark-black-gem-blackberry


    Stark Brothers is located in Louisiana, Missouri, just downriver,
    maybe a one day's float on a raft from Hannibal.  Hmmm?  Black Gem.
    Seriously though, this is the pinnacle of blackberry breeding so far,
    though it might not be perfect for some because it is thornless, which
    makes it vulnerable to getting eaten by those pesky deer.

    The best thorny alternatives are Prime-Ark Horizon (if you can find it
    for sale), or Prime-Ark 45.

    You got some pesky deer by you, Bryan...???


    I think 2 of the 3 varieties I'm growing are called Arapaho and
    Navajo , both developed by University of Arkansas . The third is Triple
    Crown , and all are thornless . They also all have much larger and
    sweeter berries than the local wild berries . They're also surrounded by
    an electric fence to keep the deer out .
    --
    Snag
    "They may take our lives but
    they'll never take our freedom."
    William Wallace

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  • From GM@21:1/5 to Snag on Wed Mar 27 14:54:36 2024
    Snag wrote:

    On 3/27/2024 8:08 AM, GM wrote:
    BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Unsurprisingly, it's from the University of Arkansas' breeders.  It's
    released as a Stark Brothers exclusive, with the name Black Gem (tm).
    https://www.starkbros.com/products/berry-plants/blackberry-plants/stark-black-gem-blackberry


    Stark Brothers is located in Louisiana, Missouri, just downriver,
    maybe a one day's float on a raft from Hannibal.  Hmmm?  Black Gem.
    Seriously though, this is the pinnacle of blackberry breeding so far,
    though it might not be perfect for some because it is thornless, which
    makes it vulnerable to getting eaten by those pesky deer.

    The best thorny alternatives are Prime-Ark Horizon (if you can find it
    for sale), or Prime-Ark 45.

    You got some pesky deer by you, Bryan...???


    I think 2 of the 3 varieties I'm growing are called Arapaho and
    Navajo , both developed by University of Arkansas . The third is Triple
    Crown , and all are thornless . They also all have much larger and
    sweeter berries than the local wild berries . They're also surrounded by
    an electric fence to keep the deer out .

    I like the idea of an "electric fence"...

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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 27 12:09:06 2024
    On 3/27/2024 9:54 AM, GM wrote:
    Snag wrote:

    On 3/27/2024 8:08 AM, GM wrote:
    BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Unsurprisingly, it's from the University of Arkansas' breeders.
    It's released as a Stark Brothers exclusive, with the name Black Gem
    (tm).
    https://www.starkbros.com/products/berry-plants/blackberry-plants/stark-black-gem-blackberry



    Stark Brothers is located in Louisiana, Missouri, just downriver,
    maybe a one day's float on a raft from Hannibal.  Hmmm?  Black Gem.
    Seriously though, this is the pinnacle of blackberry breeding so
    far, though it might not be perfect for some because it is
    thornless, which makes it vulnerable to getting eaten by those pesky
    deer.

    The best thorny alternatives are Prime-Ark Horizon (if you can find
    it for sale), or Prime-Ark 45.

    You got some pesky deer by you, Bryan...???


       I think 2 of the 3 varieties I'm growing are called Arapaho and
    Navajo , both developed by University of Arkansas . The third is
    Triple Crown , and all are thornless . They also all have much larger
    and sweeter berries than the local wild berries . They're also
    surrounded by an electric fence to keep the deer out .

    I like the idea of an "electric fence"...


    Actually it's a little more than that . The bottom 18" has a piece of
    1" chicken wire 24" wide with the bottom 6" turned flat to the outside .
    Keeps most critters from digging under it . There are 3 electrified
    wires , one just above the top of the chicken wire and 2 more spaced
    about a foot apart . The electric fence was originally installed around
    my bee yard to keep bears* out , when I moved the bees to the garden
    area I moved the fence to include it all .

    * When I first put up the electric it was because a bear had mauled
    one of my bee hives . I baited the fence with bacon when I first set it
    up ... bears love bacon . They haven't touched a hive since .
    --
    Snag
    "They may take our lives but
    they'll never take our freedom."
    William Wallace

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Snag on Wed Mar 27 13:39:09 2024
    Snag wrote:
    On 3/27/2024 9:54 AM, GM wrote:
    Snag wrote:

    On 3/27/2024 8:08 AM, GM wrote:
    BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Unsurprisingly, it's from the University of Arkansas' breeders. It's >>>>> released as a Stark Brothers exclusive, with the name Black Gem (tm). >>>>> https://www.starkbros.com/products/berry-plants/blackberry-plants/stark-black-gem-blackberry




    Stark Brothers is located in Louisiana, Missouri, just downriver,
    maybe a one day's float on a raft from Hannibal.  Hmmm?  Black Gem. >>>>> Seriously though, this is the pinnacle of blackberry breeding so far, >>>>> though it might not be perfect for some because it is thornless, which >>>>> makes it vulnerable to getting eaten by those pesky deer.

    The best thorny alternatives are Prime-Ark Horizon (if you can find it >>>>> for sale), or Prime-Ark 45.

    You got some pesky deer by you, Bryan...???


       I think 2 of the 3 varieties I'm growing are called Arapaho and
    Navajo , both developed by University of Arkansas . The third is Triple
    Crown , and all are thornless . They also all have much larger and
    sweeter berries than the local wild berries . They're also surrounded by >>> an electric fence to keep the deer out .

    I like the idea of an "electric fence"...


      Actually it's a little more than that . The bottom 18" has a piece of 1" chicken wire 24" wide with the bottom 6" turned flat to the outside . Keeps most critters from digging under it . There are 3 electrified wires , one just above the top of the chicken wire and 2 more spaced about a foot apart
    . The electric fence was originally installed around my bee yard to keep bears* out , when I moved the bees to the garden area I moved the fence to include it all .

      * When I first put up the electric it was because a bear had mauled one
    of my bee hives . I baited the fence with bacon when I first set it up ... bears love bacon . They haven't touched a hive since .

    What kind of fence charger to you have? It must pack a punch to be able to deter bears.

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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Wed Mar 27 14:08:48 2024
    On 3/27/2024 1:39 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
    Snag wrote:
    On 3/27/2024 9:54 AM, GM wrote:
    Snag wrote:

    On 3/27/2024 8:08 AM, GM wrote:
    BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Unsurprisingly, it's from the University of Arkansas' breeders.
    It's released as a Stark Brothers exclusive, with the name Black
    Gem (tm).
    https://www.starkbros.com/products/berry-plants/blackberry-plants/stark-black-gem-blackberry





    Stark Brothers is located in Louisiana, Missouri, just downriver,
    maybe a one day's float on a raft from Hannibal.  Hmmm?  Black Gem.
    Seriously though, this is the pinnacle of blackberry breeding so
    far, though it might not be perfect for some because it is
    thornless, which makes it vulnerable to getting eaten by those
    pesky deer.

    The best thorny alternatives are Prime-Ark Horizon (if you can
    find it for sale), or Prime-Ark 45.

    You got some pesky deer by you, Bryan...???


       I think 2 of the 3 varieties I'm growing are called Arapaho and >>>> Navajo , both developed by University of Arkansas . The third is
    Triple Crown , and all are thornless . They also all have much
    larger and sweeter berries than the local wild berries . They're
    also surrounded by an electric fence to keep the deer out .

    I like the idea of an "electric fence"...


       Actually it's a little more than that . The bottom 18" has a piece
    of 1" chicken wire 24" wide with the bottom 6" turned flat to the
    outside . Keeps most critters from digging under it . There are 3
    electrified wires , one just above the top of the chicken wire and 2
    more spaced about a foot apart . The electric fence was originally
    installed around my bee yard to keep bears* out , when I moved the
    bees to the garden area I moved the fence to include it all .

       * When I first put up the electric it was because a bear had mauled
    one of my bee hives . I baited the fence with bacon when I first set
    it up ... bears love bacon . They haven't touched a hive since .

    What kind of fence charger to you have? It must pack a punch to be able
    to deter bears.



    It's a .3 joule unit , supposed to cover up to 20 acres . I'm
    enclosing about 1600 square feet . . The thing is when a bear comes in
    he leads with his nose and face . This area is very sensitive and the
    wires are spaced to hit there .
    --
    Snag
    "They may take our lives but
    they'll never take our freedom."
    William Wallace

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