• Re: Beef broth fixin's

    From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Wed Mar 20 21:04:35 2024
    Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

    When I buy beef top loin steaks, they come with a bone that frames the
    top and one side and a gristle strip on the other. I cut them both off
    before cooking the steak and chuck them in a ziplock.
    My ziplock is full so I'm making broth. Everything I use is in the
    photo, but I'm partially open to other seasoning suggestions.

    <https://postimg.cc/yJ92x5NG>

    leo

    Maybe a carrot, a few sprigs of parsley, and a dozen or so of whole peppercorns? If you don't relish the idea of straining, maybe tie
    up the parsley and peppercorns in a few layers of cheesecloth? Your
    wife could even make a few washable spice bags out of muslin and
    kitchen twine for drawstring bags.

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 20 20:22:08 2024
    When I buy beef top loin steaks, they come with a bone that frames the
    top and one side and a gristle strip on the other. I cut them both off
    before cooking the steak and chuck them in a ziplock.
    My ziplock is full so I'm making broth. Everything I use is in the
    photo, but I'm partially open to other seasoning suggestions.

    <https://postimg.cc/yJ92x5NG>

    leo

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 20 21:00:59 2024
    In article <l60urfFig0gU2@mid.individual.net>,
    leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net says...

    When I buy beef top loin steaks, they come with a bone that frames the
    top and one side and a gristle strip on the other. I cut them both off
    before cooking the steak and chuck them in a ziplock.
    My ziplock is full so I'm making broth. Everything I use is in the
    photo, but I'm partially open to other seasoning suggestions.

    <https://postimg.cc/yJ92x5NG>

    leo

    Parsley, thyme, a couple of bay leaves

    Janet UK

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Wed Mar 20 17:29:16 2024
    On 3/20/2024 4:22 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    When I buy beef top loin steaks, they come with a bone that frames the
    top and one side and a gristle strip on the other. I cut them both off
    before cooking the steak and chuck them in a ziplock.
    My ziplock is full so I'm making broth. Everything I use is in the
    photo, but I'm partially open to other seasoning suggestions.

    <https://postimg.cc/yJ92x5NG>

    leo


    You need Sheldon's 40 gallon stock pot.

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  • From GM@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Wed Mar 20 21:19:12 2024
    Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

    When I buy beef top loin steaks, they come with a bone that frames the
    top and one side and a gristle strip on the other. I cut them both off
    before cooking the steak and chuck them in a ziplock.
    My ziplock is full so I'm making broth. Everything I use is in the
    photo, but I'm partially open to other seasoning suggestions.

    <https://postimg.cc/yJ92x5NG>


    Is this why all the commercial stocks in the stores are now labeled "bone broth"...???

    ;-)

    It looks very good...

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    GM

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Janet on Wed Mar 20 17:57:31 2024
    On 3/20/2024 5:00 PM, Janet wrote:
    In article <l60urfFig0gU2@mid.individual.net>,
    leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net says...

    When I buy beef top loin steaks, they come with a bone that frames the
    top and one side and a gristle strip on the other. I cut them both off
    before cooking the steak and chuck them in a ziplock.
    My ziplock is full so I'm making broth. Everything I use is in the
    photo, but I'm partially open to other seasoning suggestions.

    <https://postimg.cc/yJ92x5NG>

    leo

    Parsley, thyme, a couple of bay leaves

    Janet UK

    That and perhaps chopped up carrot. It's nice to see he roasted the
    bones. A long slow simmer, adding water as needed, and then chill it
    and skim off the fat that rises to the top and strain the stock.

    Jill

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Wed Mar 20 18:11:22 2024
    On 2024-03-20 5:57 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/20/2024 5:00 PM, Janet wrote:
    In article <l60urfFig0gU2@mid.individual.net>,
    leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net says...

    When I buy beef top loin steaks, they come with a bone that frames the
    top and one side and a gristle strip on the other. I cut them both off
    before cooking the steak and chuck them in a ziplock.
    My ziplock is full so I'm making broth. Everything I use is in the
    photo, but I'm partially open to other seasoning suggestions.

    <https://postimg.cc/yJ92x5NG>

    leo

      Parsley, thyme, a couple of bay leaves

       Janet UK

    That and perhaps chopped up carrot.  It's nice to see he roasted the bones.  A long slow simmer, adding water as needed, and then chill it
    and skim off the fat that rises to the top and strain the stock.


    I have to ask about the roasting of the bones. Some people here claim
    that making stock with bones from a previously roasted chunk off meat
    gives then a nasty taste, so would that not also come out when one
    roasts the bones?

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Wed Mar 20 18:40:45 2024
    On 3/20/2024 6:11 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-20 5:57 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/20/2024 5:00 PM, Janet wrote:
    In article <l60urfFig0gU2@mid.individual.net>,
    leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net says...

    When I buy beef top loin steaks, they come with a bone that frames the >>>> top and one side and a gristle strip on the other. I cut them both off >>>> before cooking the steak and chuck them in a ziplock.
    My ziplock is full so I'm making broth. Everything I use is in the
    photo, but I'm partially open to other seasoning suggestions.

    <https://postimg.cc/yJ92x5NG>

    leo

      Parsley, thyme, a couple of bay leaves

       Janet UK

    That and perhaps chopped up carrot.  It's nice to see he roasted the
    bones.  A long slow simmer, adding water as needed, and then chill it
    and skim off the fat that rises to the top and strain the stock.


     I have to ask about the roasting of the bones. Some people here claim
    that making stock with bones from a previously roasted chunk off meat
    gives then a nasty taste, so would that not also come out when  one
    roasts the bones?

    The bones Leo roasted were trimmed off the top loin steaks and froze
    them BEFORE he cooked the steaks. So they are not previously roasted
    (aka twice burnt).

    Jill

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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to Janet on Wed Mar 20 22:43:01 2024
    On 20/03/2024 21:00, Janet wrote:
    In article <l60urfFig0gU2@mid.individual.net>,
    leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net says...

    When I buy beef top loin steaks, they come with a bone that frames the
    top and one side and a gristle strip on the other. I cut them both off
    before cooking the steak and chuck them in a ziplock.
    My ziplock is full so I'm making broth. Everything I use is in the
    photo, but I'm partially open to other seasoning suggestions.

    <https://postimg.cc/yJ92x5NG>

    leo

    Parsley, thyme, a couple of bay leaves

    Janet UK

    Yes. I use lemon thyme.
    And red wine.

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to S Viemeister on Wed Mar 20 18:44:23 2024
    On 3/20/2024 6:39 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
    On 20/03/2024 20:22, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    When I buy beef top loin steaks, they come with a bone that frames the
    top and one side and a gristle strip on the other. I cut them both off
    before cooking the steak and chuck them in a ziplock.
    My ziplock is full so I'm making broth. Everything I use is in the
    photo, but I'm partially open to other seasoning suggestions.

    <https://postimg.cc/yJ92x5NG>

    leo

    A bay leaf or two, and a spoonful of black peppercorns. I often add a
    bit of celery, as well.

    Leo has celery there.

    Jill

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Wed Mar 20 18:47:23 2024
    On 3/20/2024 5:04 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

    When I buy beef top loin steaks, they come with a bone that frames the
    top and one side and a gristle strip on the other. I cut them both off
    before cooking the steak and chuck them in a ziplock.
    My ziplock is full so I'm making broth. Everything I use is in the
    photo, but I'm partially open to other seasoning suggestions.

    <https://postimg.cc/yJ92x5NG>

    leo

    Maybe a carrot, a few sprigs of parsley, and a dozen or so of whole peppercorns?  If you don't relish the idea of straining, maybe tie
    up the parsley and peppercorns in a few layers of cheesecloth?  Your
    wife could even make a few washable spice bags out of muslin and
    kitchen twine for drawstring bags.

    I agree about using cheesecloth tied with kitchen twine for bouquet
    garni. Not sure about you volunteering his wife to make reusable
    washable muslin drawstring spice bags. ;)

    Jill

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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Wed Mar 20 22:54:31 2024
    On 20/03/2024 22:44, jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/20/2024 6:39 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
    On 20/03/2024 20:22, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    When I buy beef top loin steaks, they come with a bone that frames the
    top and one side and a gristle strip on the other. I cut them both off
    before cooking the steak and chuck them in a ziplock.
    My ziplock is full so I'm making broth. Everything I use is in the
    photo, but I'm partially open to other seasoning suggestions.

    <https://postimg.cc/yJ92x5NG>

    leo

    A bay leaf or two, and a spoonful of black peppercorns. I often add a
    bit of celery, as well.

    Leo has celery there.

    Jill

    Indeed he does!

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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Wed Mar 20 22:39:49 2024
    On 20/03/2024 20:22, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    When I buy beef top loin steaks, they come with a bone that frames the
    top and one side and a gristle strip on the other. I cut them both off
    before cooking the steak and chuck them in a ziplock.
    My ziplock is full so I'm making broth. Everything I use is in the
    photo, but I'm partially open to other seasoning suggestions.

    <https://postimg.cc/yJ92x5NG>

    leo

    A bay leaf or two, and a spoonful of black peppercorns. I often add a
    bit of celery, as well.

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  • From Dennis Kane@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Wed Mar 20 16:37:37 2024
    On 3/20/2024 3:44 PM, jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/20/2024 6:39 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
    On 20/03/2024 20:22, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    When I buy beef top loin steaks, they come with a bone that frames the
    top and one side and a gristle strip on the other. I cut them both off
    before cooking the steak and chuck them in a ziplock.
    My ziplock is full so I'm making broth. Everything I use is in the
    photo, but I'm partially open to other seasoning suggestions.

    <https://postimg.cc/yJ92x5NG>

    leo

    A bay leaf or two, and a spoonful of black peppercorns. I often add a
    bit of celery, as well.

    Leo has celery there.

    Jill

    I also add a bit of celery, as well. Carrots too.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 21 11:56:51 2024
    On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 16:37:37 -0700, Dennis Kane <dkane@mail.com>
    wrote:

    On 3/20/2024 3:44 PM, jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/20/2024 6:39 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
    On 20/03/2024 20:22, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    When I buy beef top loin steaks, they come with a bone that frames the >>>> top and one side and a gristle strip on the other. I cut them both off >>>> before cooking the steak and chuck them in a ziplock.
    My ziplock is full so I'm making broth. Everything I use is in the
    photo, but I'm partially open to other seasoning suggestions.

    <https://postimg.cc/yJ92x5NG>

    leo

    A bay leaf or two, and a spoonful of black peppercorns. I often add a
    bit of celery, as well.

    Leo has celery there.

    Jill

    I also add a bit of celery, as well. Carrots too.

    I leave out the beef.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Wed Mar 20 20:08:02 2024
    ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

    When I buy beef top loin steaks, they come with a bone that frames the
    top and one side and a gristle strip on the other. I cut them both off
    before cooking the steak and chuck them in a ziplock.
    My ziplock is full so I'm making broth. Everything I use is in the
    photo, but I'm partially open to other seasoning suggestions.

    <https://postimg.cc/yJ92x5NG>

    leo

    Maybe a carrot, a few sprigs of parsley, and a dozen or so of whole peppercorns?  If you don't relish the idea of straining, maybe tie
    up the parsley and peppercorns in a few layers of cheesecloth?  Your
    wife could even make a few washable spice bags out of muslin and
    kitchen twine for drawstring bags.

    How about some diced onions too?

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Wed Mar 20 20:03:25 2024
    jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/20/2024 5:04 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

    When I buy beef top loin steaks, they come with a bone that frames the
    top and one side and a gristle strip on the other. I cut them both off
    before cooking the steak and chuck them in a ziplock.
    My ziplock is full so I'm making broth. Everything I use is in the
    photo, but I'm partially open to other seasoning suggestions.

    <https://postimg.cc/yJ92x5NG>

    leo

    Maybe a carrot, a few sprigs of parsley, and a dozen or so of whole
    peppercorns?  If you don't relish the idea of straining, maybe tie
    up the parsley and peppercorns in a few layers of cheesecloth?  Your
    wife could even make a few washable spice bags out of muslin and
    kitchen twine for drawstring bags.

    I agree about using cheesecloth tied with kitchen twine for bouquet garni. Not sure about you volunteering his wife to make reusable washable muslin drawstring spice bags. ;)

    Jill

    If your highness actually had a husband, and if he asked that of your
    majesty, there would surely be a heinous murder at dataw castle.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Janet on Wed Mar 20 20:07:53 2024
    On 2024-03-20 3:00 p.m., Janet wrote:
    In article <l60urfFig0gU2@mid.individual.net>,
    leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net says...

    When I buy beef top loin steaks, they come with a bone that frames the
    top and one side and a gristle strip on the other. I cut them both off
    before cooking the steak and chuck them in a ziplock.
    My ziplock is full so I'm making broth. Everything I use is in the
    photo, but I'm partially open to other seasoning suggestions.

    <https://postimg.cc/yJ92x5NG>

    leo

    Parsley, thyme, a couple of bay leaves

    Janet UK

    Why bother with parsley? It's only decorative:-)

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Graham on Wed Mar 20 22:32:59 2024
    On 2024-03-20 10:07 p.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-20 3:00 p.m., Janet wrote:

      Parsley, thyme, a couple of bay leaves

       Janet UK

    Why bother with parsley? It's only decorative:-)

    It does have some taste. I learned about that once when I used too much.
    It ranks up there with bay leave. You're not always sure what it
    tastes like but if you forget it you know there is something missing. I
    once had a dish in a Mexican restaurant had way too much bay leave. It
    was not pleasant.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Graham on Wed Mar 20 21:47:20 2024
    Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-20 3:00 p.m., Janet wrote:
    In article <l60urfFig0gU2@mid.individual.net>,
    leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net says...

    When I buy beef top loin steaks, they come with a bone that frames the
    top and one side and a gristle strip on the other. I cut them both off
    before cooking the steak and chuck them in a ziplock.
    My ziplock is full so I'm making broth. Everything I use is in the
    photo, but I'm partially open to other seasoning suggestions.

    <https://postimg.cc/yJ92x5NG>

    leo

      Parsley, thyme, a couple of bay leaves

       Janet UK

    Why bother with parsley? It's only decorative:-)

    Decorative, like a wooden bowl?

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Thu Mar 21 02:34:17 2024
    Hank Rogers wrote:

    Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

    <https://postimg.cc/yJ92x5NG>

    leo

    How about some diced onions too?

    There's a halved onion in his photo.

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Graham on Thu Mar 21 02:36:37 2024
    Graham wrote:

    On 2024-03-20 3:00 p.m., Janet wrote:

    Parsley, thyme, a couple of bay leaves

    Janet UK

    Why bother with parsley? It's only decorative:-)

    Parsley adds a nice mild flavor.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Wed Mar 20 21:18:46 2024
    On 2024-03-20 8:32 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-20 10:07 p.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-20 3:00 p.m., Janet wrote:

      Parsley, thyme, a couple of bay leaves

       Janet UK

    Why bother with parsley? It's only decorative:-)

    It does have some taste. I learned about that once when I used too much.
     It ranks up there with bay leave.

    Not the bay leaves I use!

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Wed Mar 20 21:19:16 2024
    On 2024-03-20 8:36 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    On 2024-03-20 3:00 p.m., Janet wrote:

      Parsley, thyme, a couple of bay leaves

       Janet UK

    Why bother with parsley? It's only decorative:-)

    Parsley adds a nice mild flavor.

    To me it's so mild as to be not worth the bother.

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  • From Ed Pawlowski@21:1/5 to Graham on Thu Mar 21 00:32:59 2024
    On 3/20/2024 10:07 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-20 3:00 p.m., Janet wrote:
    In article <l60urfFig0gU2@mid.individual.net>,
    leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net says...

    When I buy beef top loin steaks, they come with a bone that frames the
    top and one side and a gristle strip on the other. I cut them both off
    before cooking the steak and chuck them in a ziplock.
    My ziplock is full so I'm making broth. Everything I use is in the
    photo, but I'm partially open to other seasoning suggestions.

    <https://postimg.cc/yJ92x5NG>

    leo

      Parsley, thyme, a couple of bay leaves

       Janet UK

    Why bother with parsley? It's only decorative:-)


    WHAT???? I just invested my retirement savings and borrowed against my
    house for shares of a Parsley farm. I was told it is the herb of the
    future and people are learning to use it more and more.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Graham on Thu Mar 21 09:07:12 2024
    On 2024-03-21, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
    On 2024-03-20 3:00 p.m., Janet wrote:
    In article <l60urfFig0gU2@mid.individual.net>,
    leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net says...

    When I buy beef top loin steaks, they come with a bone that frames the
    top and one side and a gristle strip on the other. I cut them both off
    before cooking the steak and chuck them in a ziplock.
    My ziplock is full so I'm making broth. Everything I use is in the
    photo, but I'm partially open to other seasoning suggestions.

    <https://postimg.cc/yJ92x5NG>

    leo

    Parsley, thyme, a couple of bay leaves

    Janet UK

    Why bother with parsley? It's only decorative:-)

    Ah, you remind me of an old joke...

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Graham on Thu Mar 21 09:09:34 2024
    On 2024-03-21, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
    On 2024-03-20 8:32 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-20 10:07 p.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-20 3:00 p.m., Janet wrote:

      Parsley, thyme, a couple of bay leaves

       Janet UK

    Why bother with parsley? It's only decorative:-)

    It does have some taste. I learned about that once when I used too much.
     It ranks up there with bay leave.

    Not the bay leaves I use!

    Really? I once ruined a batch of soup by adding too much bay leaf.
    I ended up adding a spoonful of pesto to every bowl just to cover
    up the bay leaf flavor.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Graham on Thu Mar 21 09:11:17 2024
    On 2024-03-21, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
    On 2024-03-20 8:36 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    On 2024-03-20 3:00 p.m., Janet wrote:

      Parsley, thyme, a couple of bay leaves

       Janet UK

    Why bother with parsley? It's only decorative:-)

    Parsley adds a nice mild flavor.

    To me it's so mild as to be not worth the bother.

    Everybody's taste buds are different. To me, parsley has a
    pronounced flavor. I often add a handful of sprigs as a salad
    herb.

    The stems have more flavor than the leaves.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu Mar 21 10:14:39 2024
    On Thu, 21 Mar 2024, Bruce wrote:

    On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 16:37:37 -0700, Dennis Kane <dkane@mail.com>
    wrote:

    On 3/20/2024 3:44 PM, jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/20/2024 6:39 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
    On 20/03/2024 20:22, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    When I buy beef top loin steaks, they come with a bone that frames the >>>>> top and one side and a gristle strip on the other. I cut them both off >>>>> before cooking the steak and chuck them in a ziplock.
    My ziplock is full so I'm making broth. Everything I use is in the
    photo, but I'm partially open to other seasoning suggestions.

    <https://postimg.cc/yJ92x5NG>

    leo

    A bay leaf or two, and a spoonful of black peppercorns. I often add a
    bit of celery, as well.

    Leo has celery there.

    Jill

    I also add a bit of celery, as well. Carrots too.

    I leave out the beef.


    May god forgive your sins!

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Thu Mar 21 08:57:08 2024
    On 2024-03-21 5:09 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-21, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    It does have some taste. I learned about that once when I used too much. >>>  It ranks up there with bay leave.

    Not the bay leaves I use!

    Really? I once ruined a batch of soup by adding too much bay leaf.
    I ended up adding a spoonful of pesto to every bowl just to cover
    up the bay leaf flavor.

    That dish I had where they overdid the bay leave was not pleasant. I
    had never really identified the bay leave taste and thought of it more
    as something that was missing if it wasn't there. I don't ever want to
    overdo the bay leave again.

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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to Graham on Thu Mar 21 13:03:08 2024
    On 21/03/2024 03:19, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-20 8:36 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    On 2024-03-20 3:00 p.m., Janet wrote:

      Parsley, thyme, a couple of bay leaves

       Janet UK

    Why bother with parsley? It's only decorative:-)

    Parsley adds a nice mild flavor.

    To me it's so mild as to be not worth the bother.

    Do you use fresh, or dried?

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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Thu Mar 21 13:04:16 2024
    On 21/03/2024 09:11, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-21, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
    On 2024-03-20 8:36 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    On 2024-03-20 3:00 p.m., Janet wrote:

      Parsley, thyme, a couple of bay leaves

       Janet UK

    Why bother with parsley? It's only decorative:-)

    Parsley adds a nice mild flavor.

    To me it's so mild as to be not worth the bother.

    Everybody's taste buds are different. To me, parsley has a
    pronounced flavor. I often add a handful of sprigs as a salad
    herb.

    The stems have more flavor than the leaves.

    I use the stems when making stock.

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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Thu Mar 21 13:02:33 2024
    On 21/03/2024 02:36, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    On 2024-03-20 3:00 p.m., Janet wrote:

      Parsley, thyme, a couple of bay leaves

       Janet UK

    Why bother with parsley? It's only decorative:-)

    Parsley adds a nice mild flavor.

    Yes, it does- fresh parsley. The dried stuff is mostly decorative.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to S Viemeister on Thu Mar 21 07:59:17 2024
    On 2024-03-21 7:03 a.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 21/03/2024 03:19, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-20 8:36 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    On 2024-03-20 3:00 p.m., Janet wrote:

      Parsley, thyme, a couple of bay leaves

       Janet UK

    Why bother with parsley? It's only decorative:-)

    Parsley adds a nice mild flavor.

    To me it's so mild as to be not worth the bother.

    Do you use fresh, or dried?

    Fresh but I can't remember when I last used or bought any.

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 21 14:40:45 2024
    In article <65fb9679$0$2077924
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, g.stereo@shaw.ca says...

    On 2024-03-20 3:00 p.m., Janet wrote:
    In article <l60urfFig0gU2@mid.individual.net>,
    leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net says...

    When I buy beef top loin steaks, they come with a bone that frames the
    top and one side and a gristle strip on the other. I cut them both off
    before cooking the steak and chuck them in a ziplock.
    My ziplock is full so I'm making broth. Everything I use is in the
    photo, but I'm partially open to other seasoning suggestions.

    <https://postimg.cc/yJ92x5NG>

    leo

    Parsley, thyme, a couple of bay leaves

    Janet UK

    Why bother with parsley? It's only decorative:-)

    For flavour, course; plus its a valuable source of
    vitamin K, A, C, iron, folate, potassium, calcium and
    magnesium.

    If you can't taste the parsely you're just not using
    enough.

    Janet UK

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 21 15:00:47 2024
    In article <utgd9r$20m3d$1@dont-email.me>, esp@snet.xxx
    says...

    On 3/20/2024 10:07 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-20 3:00 p.m., Janet wrote:
    In article <l60urfFig0gU2@mid.individual.net>,
    leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net says...

    When I buy beef top loin steaks, they come with a bone that frames the >>> top and one side and a gristle strip on the other. I cut them both off >>> before cooking the steak and chuck them in a ziplock.
    My ziplock is full so I'm making broth. Everything I use is in the
    photo, but I'm partially open to other seasoning suggestions.

    <https://postimg.cc/yJ92x5NG>

    leo

      Parsley, thyme, a couple of bay leaves

       Janet UK

    Why bother with parsley? It's only decorative:-)


    WHAT???? I just invested my retirement savings and borrowed against my
    house for shares of a Parsley farm. I was told it is the herb of the
    future and people are learning to use it more and more.


    Back in the days when we had a small-holding we either
    grew, produced or bartered much of our own food.

    A local grocer and I had a deal that supplied
    all my family's exotic fruit needs in exchange for the
    top quality parsely crop I grew.

    I still grow (and eat) a lot of parsley, just sowed the
    new season's crop last week.


    Janet UK

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Thu Mar 21 21:57:43 2024
    On 2024-03-20, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/20/2024 5:04 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    Maybe a carrot, a few sprigs of parsley, and a dozen or so of whole
    peppercorns?  If you don't relish the idea of straining, maybe tie
    up the parsley and peppercorns in a few layers of cheesecloth?  Your
    wife could even make a few washable spice bags out of muslin and
    kitchen twine for drawstring bags.

    I agree about using cheesecloth tied with kitchen twine for bouquet
    garni. Not sure about you volunteering his wife to make reusable
    washable muslin drawstring spice bags. ;)


    Oh, she's dying for new projects all the time. :) Although she does
    quilts, I call her the "Russian bag lady". The bags nest, you see.
    When she's not sewing, she's looking for fabric, and I'm watching TV.

    <https://postimg.cc/9w40jHLQ>

    leo

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Ed P on Thu Mar 21 22:04:38 2024
    On 2024-03-20, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
    On 3/20/2024 4:22 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

    <https://postimg.cc/yJ92x5NG>

    You need Sheldon's 40 gallon stock pot.


    All of the ingredients simmered down to five cups of strong broth. I did
    use some suggestions from other posters. I was stunned to find out that
    I didn't have some common herbs and spices. I do have two lifetimes
    worth of basil though. I didn't use that.

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Thu Mar 21 18:20:25 2024
    On 3/21/2024 5:57 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2024-03-20, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/20/2024 5:04 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    Maybe a carrot, a few sprigs of parsley, and a dozen or so of whole
    peppercorns?  If you don't relish the idea of straining, maybe tie
    up the parsley and peppercorns in a few layers of cheesecloth?  Your
    wife could even make a few washable spice bags out of muslin and
    kitchen twine for drawstring bags.

    I agree about using cheesecloth tied with kitchen twine for bouquet
    garni. Not sure about you volunteering his wife to make reusable
    washable muslin drawstring spice bags. ;)


    Oh, she's dying for new projects all the time. :) Although she does
    quilts, I call her the "Russian bag lady". The bags nest, you see.
    When she's not sewing, she's looking for fabric, and I'm watching TV.

    <https://postimg.cc/9w40jHLQ>

    leo

    Nice, Leo! Tell her I said so! But I wouldn't be putting spices in
    those quilted bags. ;)

    Jill

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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Thu Mar 21 22:50:42 2024
    On 21/03/2024 21:57, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2024-03-20, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    I agree about using cheesecloth tied with kitchen twine for bouquet
    garni. Not sure about you volunteering his wife to make reusable
    washable muslin drawstring spice bags. ;)

    Oh, she's dying for new projects all the time. :) Although she does
    quilts, I call her the "Russian bag lady". The bags nest, you see.
    When she's not sewing, she's looking for fabric, and I'm watching TV.

    <https://postimg.cc/9w40jHLQ>

    She's good!
    We could use her in our local stitch-and-bitch group - I'm trying to
    organise a friendship/sampler quilt project, to be auctioned off for the
    local village centre.
    I have a feeling that I'll be stitching quite a few of the squares myself...

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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Thu Mar 21 22:51:32 2024
    On 21/03/2024 22:04, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2024-03-20, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
    On 3/20/2024 4:22 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

    <https://postimg.cc/yJ92x5NG>

    You need Sheldon's 40 gallon stock pot.


    All of the ingredients simmered down to five cups of strong broth. I did
    use some suggestions from other posters. I was stunned to find out that
    I didn't have some common herbs and spices. I do have two lifetimes
    worth of basil though. I didn't use that.

    What did you use?

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  • From lucretia@florence.it@21:1/5 to leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net on Thu Mar 21 20:33:34 2024
    On 21 Mar 2024 21:57:43 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
    <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 2024-03-20, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/20/2024 5:04 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    Maybe a carrot, a few sprigs of parsley, and a dozen or so of whole
    peppercorns?  If you don't relish the idea of straining, maybe tie
    up the parsley and peppercorns in a few layers of cheesecloth?  Your
    wife could even make a few washable spice bags out of muslin and
    kitchen twine for drawstring bags.

    I agree about using cheesecloth tied with kitchen twine for bouquet
    garni. Not sure about you volunteering his wife to make reusable
    washable muslin drawstring spice bags. ;)


    Oh, she's dying for new projects all the time. :) Although she does
    quilts, I call her the "Russian bag lady". The bags nest, you see.
    When she's not sewing, she's looking for fabric, and I'm watching TV.

    <https://postimg.cc/9w40jHLQ>

    leo

    Beautifully stitched!

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net on Fri Mar 22 10:27:33 2024
    On 21 Mar 2024 21:57:43 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
    <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 2024-03-20, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/20/2024 5:04 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    Maybe a carrot, a few sprigs of parsley, and a dozen or so of whole
    peppercorns?  If you don't relish the idea of straining, maybe tie
    up the parsley and peppercorns in a few layers of cheesecloth?  Your
    wife could even make a few washable spice bags out of muslin and
    kitchen twine for drawstring bags.

    I agree about using cheesecloth tied with kitchen twine for bouquet
    garni. Not sure about you volunteering his wife to make reusable
    washable muslin drawstring spice bags. ;)


    Oh, she's dying for new projects all the time. :) Although she does
    quilts, I call her the "Russian bag lady". The bags nest, you see.
    When she's not sewing, she's looking for fabric, and I'm watching TV.

    <https://postimg.cc/9w40jHLQ>

    Your wife's an artist (seriously).

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Fri Mar 22 00:22:44 2024
    Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

    On 2024-03-20, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 3/20/2024 5:04 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    Maybe a carrot, a few sprigs of parsley, and a dozen or so of whole
    peppercorns?  If you don't relish the idea of straining, maybe tie
    up the parsley and peppercorns in a few layers of cheesecloth?  Your
    wife could even make a few washable spice bags out of muslin and
    kitchen twine for drawstring bags.

    I agree about using cheesecloth tied with kitchen twine for bouquet
    garni. Not sure about you volunteering his wife to make reusable
    washable muslin drawstring spice bags. ;)


    Oh, she's dying for new projects all the time. :) Although she does
    quilts, I call her the "Russian bag lady". The bags nest, you see.
    When she's not sewing, she's looking for fabric, and I'm watching TV.

    <https://postimg.cc/9w40jHLQ>

    leo


    Oh, very pretty and how well made, too!! Does she have some scraps of
    muslin stashed away? It doesn't take much to make a one or two bags.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Thu Mar 21 20:09:09 2024
    On 2024-03-21 3:57 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:



    Oh, she's dying for new projects all the time. :) Although she does
    quilts, I call her the "Russian bag lady". The bags nest, you see.
    When she's not sewing, she's looking for fabric, and I'm watching TV.

    <https://postimg.cc/9w40jHLQ>

    leo
    Brilliant work!!!

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to S Viemeister on Fri Mar 22 18:51:37 2024
    On 2024-03-21, S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:

    All of the ingredients simmered down to five cups of strong broth. I did
    use some suggestions from other posters. I was stunned to find out that
    I didn't have some common herbs and spices. I do have two lifetimes
    worth of basil though. I didn't use that.

    What did you use?

    Peppercorns and dried parsley because that's all I had except carrots. I
    didn't have bay leaves or thyme which shocked me. I have a cabinet
    shelf filled with herbs and spices, some inherited from my mother who
    died in 1987.
    I love carrots in beef stew, cook them separately and add at the end. I
    don't care for the flavor of carrots in the broth, itself.
    I am probably the least versed person in this group regarding spices,
    other than salt and pepper, but thyme and bay leaves are on my shopping
    list. I may die with the bottles unopened.

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Fri Mar 22 19:00:32 2024
    On 2024-03-22, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:

    Oh, very pretty and how well made, too!! Does she have some scraps of
    muslin stashed away? It doesn't take much to make a one or two bags.


    She does! I read her the kind reviews, and she's all happy now. :)

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