• Re: Wine shrinkflation

    From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Tue Mar 19 15:23:49 2024
    On 2024-03-19, BryanGSimmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:
    Today, while perusing a new grocery store ad, I noticed that wines that
    used to be sold in 1.75 liter bottles are now in 1.5 liter bottles.

    Thinking about wine got me thinking about wine spritzers, and it
    occurred to me that they could be made with a very dry wine, and
    sweetened with simple syrup made with allulose for a keto friendly
    beverage. Four ounces 13.5% sauv blanc + 1 ounce keto simple syrup + 7 ounces sparkling water = a 12 ounce beverage that is 4.5% alcohol, which
    is about the ABV of light beer, with less than half the digestible carbs.

    Or one could stop drinking altogether.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 19 13:31:58 2024
    On 3/19/2024 10:10 AM, BryanGSimmons wrote:> Today, while perusing a new grocery store ad, I noticed that wines that
    used to be sold in 1.75 liter bottles are now in 1.5 liter bottles.

    Thinking about wine got me thinking about wine spritzers, and it
    occurred to me that they could be made with a very dry wine, and
    sweetened with simple syrup made with allulose for a keto friendly
    beverage. Four ounces 13.5% sauv blanc + 1 ounce keto simple syrup + 7 ounces sparkling water = a 12 ounce beverage that is 4.5% alcohol, which
    is about the ABV of light beer, with less than half the digestible carbs.


    Wine had always been 1.5, a magnum.
    Liquor comes in 1.75, a handle.

    https://www.wineware.co.uk/blog/wine-bottle-sizes-guide_5967/

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Ed P on Tue Mar 19 11:48:16 2024
    On 2024-03-19 11:31 a.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 3/19/2024 10:10 AM, BryanGSimmons wrote:> Today, while perusing a new grocery store ad, I noticed that wines that
    used to be sold in 1.75 liter bottles are now in 1.5 liter bottles.

    Thinking about wine got me thinking about wine spritzers, and it
    occurred to me that they could be made with a very dry wine, and
    sweetened with simple syrup made with allulose for a keto friendly beverage.  Four ounces 13.5% sauv blanc + 1 ounce keto simple syrup + 7 ounces sparkling water = a 12 ounce beverage that is 4.5% alcohol, which is about the ABV of light beer, with less than half the digestible
    carbs.


    Wine had always been 1.5, a magnum.
    Liquor comes in 1.75, a handle.

    https://www.wineware.co.uk/blog/wine-bottle-sizes-guide_5967/

    Yes! Wine has always been sold in multiples of 750ml.

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Tue Mar 19 19:26:39 2024
    On 2024-03-19, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Today, while perusing a new grocery store ad, I noticed that wines that
    used to be sold in 1.75 liter bottles are now in 1.5 liter bottles.

    Thinking about wine got me thinking about wine spritzers, and it
    occurred to me that they could be made with a very dry wine, and
    [...] allulose.

    Sounds like an ingredient in a 'concoction' as you are wont to say.

    I had to look it up; it is banned in Canada for safety reasons.

    From the Wikipedia entry: " allulose can result in unpleasant
    symptoms such as flatulence, abdominal discomfort, and diarrhea.["

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Tue Mar 19 14:05:57 2024
    On 2024-03-19 1:26 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2024-03-19, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Today, while perusing a new grocery store ad, I noticed that wines that
    used to be sold in 1.75 liter bottles are now in 1.5 liter bottles.

    Thinking about wine got me thinking about wine spritzers, and it
    occurred to me that they could be made with a very dry wine, and
    [...] allulose.

    Sounds like an ingredient in a 'concoction' as you are wont to say.

    I had to look it up; it is banned in Canada for safety reasons.

    From the Wikipedia entry: " allulose can result in unpleasant
    symptoms such as flatulence, abdominal discomfort, and diarrhea.["

    Much like Bryan's posts:-)

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Graham on Tue Mar 19 16:22:54 2024
    On 2024-03-19 1:48 p.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-19 11:31 a.m., Ed P wrote:

    Wine had always been 1.5, a magnum.
    Liquor comes in 1.75, a handle.

    https://www.wineware.co.uk/blog/wine-bottle-sizes-guide_5967/

    Yes! Wine has always been sold in multiples of 750ml.



    I was looking at brandies on the LCBO site and was surprised to see shrinkflation in 200 500 and 700 ml bottles.
    The worst is Remy Martin Louis XIII $4,295.05 for a 700 ml.

    https://www.lcbo.com/en/products/spirits/cognac-brandy?utm_medium=search_paid&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=20220720_brandy_intent_pm_ao~spirits_en&utm_content=kw_buy_brandy&gad_source=1&gclid=CKDViqWSgYUDFfGqxQIdTmkG5Q#t=clp-products-spirits-cognac_%26_
    brandy&sort=relevancy&layout=card

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Graham on Wed Mar 20 07:53:51 2024
    On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 14:05:57 -0600, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-03-19 1:26 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2024-03-19, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Today, while perusing a new grocery store ad, I noticed that wines that
    used to be sold in 1.75 liter bottles are now in 1.5 liter bottles.

    Thinking about wine got me thinking about wine spritzers, and it
    occurred to me that they could be made with a very dry wine, and
    [...] allulose.

    Sounds like an ingredient in a 'concoction' as you are wont to say.

    I had to look it up; it is banned in Canada for safety reasons.

    From the Wikipedia entry: " allulose can result in unpleasant
    symptoms such as flatulence, abdominal discomfort, and diarrhea.["

    Much like Bryan's posts:-)

    Especially when he quotes from his book.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Tue Mar 19 15:11:58 2024
    On 2024-03-19 2:22 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-19 1:48 p.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-19 11:31 a.m., Ed P wrote:

    Wine had always been 1.5, a magnum.
    Liquor comes in 1.75, a handle.

    https://www.wineware.co.uk/blog/wine-bottle-sizes-guide_5967/

    Yes! Wine has always been sold in multiples of 750ml.



    I was looking at brandies on the LCBO site and was surprised to see shrinkflation in  200 500 and 700 ml bottles.
    The worst is Remy Martin Louis XIII $4,295.05 for a 700 ml.

    There's a well-known cyder in the UK that is made in a hamlet next to my
    home village.
    I asked about it being imported to Canada, specifically Alberta, but regulations prevent it as it comes in 500ml bottles.

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Tue Mar 19 18:52:48 2024
    On 3/19/2024 3:26 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2024-03-19, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Today, while perusing a new grocery store ad, I noticed that wines that
    used to be sold in 1.75 liter bottles are now in 1.5 liter bottles.

    Thinking about wine got me thinking about wine spritzers, and it
    occurred to me that they could be made with a very dry wine, and
    [...] allulose.

    Sounds like an ingredient in a 'concoction' as you are wont to say.

    I had to look it up; it is banned in Canada for safety reasons.

    From the Wikipedia entry: " allulose can result in unpleasant
    symptoms such as flatulence, abdominal discomfort, and diarrhea.["

    Isn't that what everyone wants from a "wine spritzer"? LOL A wine
    spritzer is merely wine combined with a spritz of club soda. Hence the
    name "spritzer".

    Jill

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Ed P on Tue Mar 19 18:40:02 2024
    On 3/19/2024 1:31 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 3/19/2024 10:10 AM, BryanGSimmons wrote:> Today, while perusing a new grocery store ad, I noticed that wines that
    used to be sold in 1.75 liter bottles are now in 1.5 liter bottles.

    Thinking about wine got me thinking about wine spritzers, and it
    occurred to me that they could be made with a very dry wine, and
    sweetened with simple syrup made with allulose for a keto friendly beverage.  Four ounces 13.5% sauv blanc + 1 ounce keto simple syrup + 7 ounces sparkling water = a 12 ounce beverage that is 4.5% alcohol, which is about the ABV of light beer, with less than half the digestible
    carbs.


    Wine had always been 1.5, a magnum.
    Liquor comes in 1.75, a handle.

    https://www.wineware.co.uk/blog/wine-bottle-sizes-guide_5967/


    Wine *spritzers* are not traditionally made with sweet liquid added.
    More like club soda.

    Jill

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Ed P on Tue Mar 19 22:41:42 2024
    Ed P wrote:

    https://www.wineware.co.uk/blog/wine-bottle-sizes-guide_5967/

    Why are these sizes named after divided kingdom Israelite and
    Babylonia kings?

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  • From lucretia@florence.it@21:1/5 to Graham on Tue Mar 19 21:26:43 2024
    On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 15:11:58 -0600, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-03-19 2:22 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-19 1:48 p.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-19 11:31 a.m., Ed P wrote:

    Wine had always been 1.5, a magnum.
    Liquor comes in 1.75, a handle.

    https://www.wineware.co.uk/blog/wine-bottle-sizes-guide_5967/

    Yes! Wine has always been sold in multiples of 750ml.



    I was looking at brandies on the LCBO site and was surprised to see
    shrinkflation in 200 500 and 700 ml bottles.
    The worst is Remy Martin Louis XIII $4,295.05 for a 700 ml.

    There's a well-known cyder in the UK that is made in a hamlet next to my
    home village.
    I asked about it being imported to Canada, specifically Alberta, but >regulations prevent it as it comes in 500ml bottles.

    Graham we have wonderful ciders in NS! If you can get it, try No
    Boats on Sunday, I love it.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Tue Mar 19 19:01:40 2024
    On 2024-03-19 6:26 p.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 15:11:58 -0600, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-03-19 2:22 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-19 1:48 p.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-19 11:31 a.m., Ed P wrote:

    Wine had always been 1.5, a magnum.
    Liquor comes in 1.75, a handle.

    https://www.wineware.co.uk/blog/wine-bottle-sizes-guide_5967/

    Yes! Wine has always been sold in multiples of 750ml.



    I was looking at brandies on the LCBO site and was surprised to see
    shrinkflation in  200 500 and 700 ml bottles.
    The worst is Remy Martin Louis XIII $4,295.05 for a 700 ml.

    There's a well-known cyder in the UK that is made in a hamlet next to my
    home village.
    I asked about it being imported to Canada, specifically Alberta, but
    regulations prevent it as it comes in 500ml bottles.

    Graham we have wonderful ciders in NS! If you can get it, try No
    Boats on Sunday, I love it.

    This cyder (note spelling) was made by a family that came from the
    Channel Islands in 1728. They planted
    traditional Normandy apple varieties. When I was a teen, I used to
    go there with a friend and buy cyder for 1s8d per quart.
    The son of the family started to develop and expand the business
    when he retired from the Royal Navy (a Lt. on the Royal Yacht).
    It has been really successful and their various cyders are widely
    available in the UK. They recently sold the company to Molson Coors.

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to Graham on Tue Mar 19 20:27:00 2024
    Graham wrote:
    ...
    Yes! Wine has always been sold in multiples of 750ml.

    you sure of that? perhaps the Romans had diffent
    sized amphora...


    songbird (surprised i spelled it right the first time
    i've used it in eons...

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Tue Mar 19 20:32:52 2024
    ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Ed P wrote:

    https://www.wineware.co.uk/blog/wine-bottle-sizes-guide_5967/

    Why are these sizes named after divided kingdom Israelite and
    Babylonia kings?

    you'll get more for a bottle with a fancy name
    invoking royalty other than bucketload (in other
    words marketing...).


    songbird

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to bryangsimmons@gmail.com on Wed Mar 20 12:32:24 2024
    On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 20:29:01 -0500, BryanGSimmons
    <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 3/19/2024 5:40 PM, jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/19/2024 1:31 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 3/19/2024 10:10 AM, BryanGSimmons wrote:> Today, while perusing a
    new grocery store ad, I noticed that wines that
    used to be sold in 1.75 liter bottles are now in 1.5 liter bottles.
    ;
    Thinking about wine got me thinking about wine spritzers, and it
    occurred to me that they could be made with a very dry wine, and
    sweetened with simple syrup made with allulose for a keto friendly
    beverage.  Four ounces 13.5% sauv blanc + 1 ounce keto simple syrup >>> + 7
    ounces sparkling water = a 12 ounce beverage that is 4.5% alcohol,
    which
    is about the ABV of light beer, with less than half the digestible
    carbs.
    ;

    Wine had always been 1.5, a magnum.
    Liquor comes in 1.75, a handle.

    You don't drink the kind of wine that's sold in big bottles, or you
    wouldn't have posted that.

    What kind of guy drinks wine spritzers? Only a huge wimp.

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to songbird on Wed Mar 20 02:46:22 2024
    songbird wrote:

    ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    Ed P wrote:

    https://www.wineware.co.uk/blog/wine-bottle-sizes-guide_5967/

    Why are these sizes named after divided kingdom Israelite and
    Babylonia kings?

    you'll get more for a bottle with a fancy name
    invoking royalty other than bucketload (in other
    words marketing...).


    songbird


    Well, that's as good an answer as any!

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  • From Ed Pawlowski@21:1/5 to songbird on Wed Mar 20 00:42:17 2024
    On 3/20/2024 12:26 AM, songbird wrote:
    Bruce wrote:
    ...
    What kind of guy drinks wine spritzers? Only a huge wimp.

    nobody has gotten into the sizes of boxwines yet...


    songbird


    Most are three liters. Some are decent wine too. I've bought Bota Box
    and Black Box with good results. Keeps for a decent amount of time too.
    It is not as good as a $45 bottle but my taste buds don't appreciate
    very expensive wines. I stop at about $15

    I used to have a box in the fridge at work and a couple of days a week
    we'd have a glass with lunch.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Ed Pawlowski on Wed Mar 20 16:12:02 2024
    On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 00:42:17 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    On 3/20/2024 12:26 AM, songbird wrote:
    Bruce wrote:
    ...
    What kind of guy drinks wine spritzers? Only a huge wimp.

    nobody has gotten into the sizes of boxwines yet...


    songbird


    Most are three liters. Some are decent wine too. I've bought Bota Box
    and Black Box with good results. Keeps for a decent amount of time too.
    It is not as good as a $45 bottle but my taste buds don't appreciate
    very expensive wines. I stop at about $15

    I used to have a box in the fridge at work and a couple of days a week
    we'd have a glass with lunch.

    I bought a nicer than normal French red (A$15) the other day and I
    liked it just as much as my every day Australian plonk ($A6). I must
    be a cheap date.

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to Bruce on Wed Mar 20 00:26:32 2024
    Bruce wrote:
    ...
    What kind of guy drinks wine spritzers? Only a huge wimp.

    nobody has gotten into the sizes of boxwines yet...


    songbird

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 20 15:35:14 2024
    On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 00:26:32 -0400, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>
    wrote:

    Bruce wrote:
    ...
    What kind of guy drinks wine spritzers? Only a huge wimp.

    nobody has gotten into the sizes of boxwines yet...

    I bought a white boxwine a few years ago. It was 3 liters and I like
    my wine, but I didn't finish it before it went off (in the fridge). I
    buy cheap, but quaffable bottles.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Graham on Wed Mar 20 09:57:39 2024
    On 2024-03-20, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    This cyder (note spelling)

    That spelling is not universal. However, I suspect you're indicating
    this:

    Cyder is made from a single pressing of vintage fruit, rather like
    “extra virgin” olive oil. Cider, the drink almost given to agricultural labourers well into living memory, was made from the cyder pulp being re-pressed at the rate of 10 gallons of water to 1 cwt of pulp. http://www.minchews.co.uk/cyder.htm

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From lucretia@florence.it@21:1/5 to Graham on Wed Mar 20 07:51:30 2024
    On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 19:01:40 -0600, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-03-19 6:26 p.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 15:11:58 -0600, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-03-19 2:22 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-19 1:48 p.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-19 11:31 a.m., Ed P wrote:

    Wine had always been 1.5, a magnum.
    Liquor comes in 1.75, a handle.

    https://www.wineware.co.uk/blog/wine-bottle-sizes-guide_5967/

    Yes! Wine has always been sold in multiples of 750ml.



    I was looking at brandies on the LCBO site and was surprised to see
    shrinkflation in 200 500 and 700 ml bottles.
    The worst is Remy Martin Louis XIII $4,295.05 for a 700 ml.

    There's a well-known cyder in the UK that is made in a hamlet next to my >>> home village.
    I asked about it being imported to Canada, specifically Alberta, but
    regulations prevent it as it comes in 500ml bottles.

    Graham we have wonderful ciders in NS! If you can get it, try No
    Boats on Sunday, I love it.

    This cyder (note spelling) was made by a family that came from the
    Channel Islands in 1728. They planted
    traditional Normandy apple varieties. When I was a teen, I used to
    go there with a friend and buy cyder for 1s8d per quart.
    The son of the family started to develop and expand the business
    when he retired from the Royal Navy (a Lt. on the Royal Yacht).
    It has been really successful and their various cyders are widely
    available in the UK. They recently sold the company to Molson Coors.

    We were surprised when we first came here there was only apple juice
    (which tasted foul) and all the orchards in the valley didn't make
    cider (NA spelling lol) It has totally changed now - many competing
    brands.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Ed Pawlowski on Wed Mar 20 08:54:08 2024
    On 2024-03-20 12:42 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:

    Most are three liters.  Some are decent wine too.  I've bought Bota Box
    and Black Box with good results.  Keeps for a decent amount of time too.
    It is not as good as a $45 bottle but my taste buds don't appreciate
    very expensive wines. I stop at about $15

    I have been getting a local Chardonnay that comes in a 4L box. It costs
    about the same as three 750ml bottles.


    I used to have a box in the fridge at work and a couple of days a week
    we'd have a glass with lunch.

    That would have been a definite no no for me.
    Alcohol is funny stuff. If I have a beer with my lunch I am likely to
    fall asleep in the afternoon. If I have a beer at night it is likely to
    keep me awake.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to songbird on Wed Mar 20 08:51:21 2024
    On 2024-03-20 12:26 a.m., songbird wrote:
    Bruce wrote:
    ...
    What kind of guy drinks wine spritzers? Only a huge wimp.

    nobody has gotten into the sizes of boxwines yet...



    Around here some are 3L and some are 4L. They are a pretty good deal for mediocre everyday wines. I have had some that were crappy but I did find
    a couple good whites. It's handy to be able to pour yourself a glass of
    wine and leave the rest without having to worry about it turning.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Wed Mar 20 08:56:53 2024
    On 2024-03-20 6:51 a.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 19:01:40 -0600, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:


    This cyder (note spelling) was made by a family that came from the
    Channel Islands in 1728. They planted
    traditional Normandy apple varieties. When I was a teen, I used to
    go there with a friend and buy cyder for 1s8d per quart.
    The son of the family started to develop and expand the business
    when he retired from the Royal Navy (a Lt. on the Royal Yacht).
    It has been really successful and their various cyders are widely
    available in the UK. They recently sold the company to Molson Coors.

    We were surprised when we first came here there was only apple juice
    (which tasted foul) and all the orchards in the valley didn't make
    cider (NA spelling lol) It has totally changed now - many competing
    brands.

    There have been a few cider production facilities opening up around
    here. I am seeing more and more cider available at the liquor store.
    Maybe I should give it a try some day.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Wed Mar 20 09:02:42 2024
    On 2024-03-20 3:57 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-20, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    This cyder (note spelling)

    That spelling is not universal. However, I suspect you're indicating
    this:

    Cyder is made from a single pressing of vintage fruit, rather like
    “extra virgin” olive oil. Cider, the drink almost given to agricultural labourers well into living memory, was made from the cyder pulp being re-pressed at the rate of 10 gallons of water to 1 cwt of pulp. http://www.minchews.co.uk/cyder.htm

    Aspall always spelled it this way and I suspect that it was their 18C
    spelling.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Thu Mar 21 03:13:52 2024
    On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 07:51:30 -0300, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 19:01:40 -0600, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-03-19 6:26 p.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    Graham we have wonderful ciders in NS! If you can get it, try No
    Boats on Sunday, I love it.

    This cyder (note spelling) was made by a family that came from the
    Channel Islands in 1728. They planted
    traditional Normandy apple varieties. When I was a teen, I used to
    go there with a friend and buy cyder for 1s8d per quart.
    The son of the family started to develop and expand the business
    when he retired from the Royal Navy (a Lt. on the Royal Yacht).
    It has been really successful and their various cyders are widely
    available in the UK. They recently sold the company to Molson Coors.

    We were surprised when we first came here there was only apple juice
    (which tasted foul) and all the orchards in the valley didn't make
    cider (NA spelling lol) It has totally changed now - many competing
    brands.

    Maybe it's the same situation as in Tasmania, "the Apple Isle". It's
    impossible to compete with cheap labour countries just for apples, so
    either you stop with apples altogether or you do something fancy with
    them, like make cider or switch to trendy types.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to bryangsimmons@gmail.com on Thu Mar 21 03:15:04 2024
    On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 06:14:09 -0500, BryanGSimmons
    <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 3/19/2024 3:05 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-19 1:26 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:

    Sounds like an ingredient in a 'concoction' as you are wont to say.

    I had to look it up; it is banned in Canada for safety reasons.

     From the Wikipedia entry: " allulose can result in unpleasant
    symptoms such as flatulence, abdominal discomfort, and diarrhea.["

    Much like Bryan's posts:-)

    Why is it that the Canadians here are such boring persons?
    The only exception is when Dave Smith posts about Big Niece. I miss the
    Big Niece stories. They are the only thing of value about ossifer Dave.

    What's so interesting? She's one of many people he hates. She eats a
    lot. Oh, what wonderful entertainment!

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to adavid.smith@sympatico.ca on Thu Mar 21 03:15:50 2024
    On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 08:51:21 -0400, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-03-20 12:26 a.m., songbird wrote:
    Bruce wrote:
    ...
    What kind of guy drinks wine spritzers? Only a huge wimp.

    nobody has gotten into the sizes of boxwines yet...



    Around here some are 3L and some are 4L. They are a pretty good deal for >mediocre everyday wines. I have had some that were crappy but I did find
    a couple good whites. It's handy to be able to pour yourself a glass of
    wine and leave the rest without having to worry about it turning.

    Maybe you can't tell when it has turned.

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