• Corned Beef & Cabbage

    From jmcquown@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 14 16:29:03 2024
    Long gone are the days of $2.99/lb "deals" on corned beef brisket; the
    going rate this year across all local markets was $4.99/lb. I bought
    three of them this year; two are in the freezer. I love corned beef
    brisket and this is the only time of year I can find it. (Sorry, the
    canned stuff simply doesn't count as corned beef in my book and no, I'm
    not going to bother to "corn" a brisket.) I also picked up a nice head
    of cabbage.

    I will likely cook it on Saturday. I do it in the crock pot/slow cooker
    with the peppercorn spice packet in a minimal amount of water; I do add
    a couple of extra dried bay leaves. Towards the end of cooking I cut
    the cabbage into wedges and cook it on top of the beef until it's just
    fork tender.

    I do not cook potatoes and carrots with this. But I did buy some
    potatoes so I could make a pan of corned beef hash with some of the
    leftover brisket.

    Jill

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Fri Mar 15 00:52:08 2024
    jmcquown wrote:

    Long gone are the days of $2.99/lb "deals" on corned beef brisket; the
    going rate this year across all local markets was $4.99/lb. I bought
    three of them this year; two are in the freezer. I love corned beef
    brisket and this is the only time of year I can find it. (Sorry, the
    canned stuff simply doesn't count as corned beef in my book and no, I'm
    not going to bother to "corn" a brisket.) I also picked up a nice head
    of cabbage.

    I will likely cook it on Saturday. I do it in the crock pot/slow cooker
    with the peppercorn spice packet in a minimal amount of water; I do add
    a couple of extra dried bay leaves. Towards the end of cooking I cut
    the cabbage into wedges and cook it on top of the beef until it's just
    fork tender.

    I do not cook potatoes and carrots with this. But I did buy some
    potatoes so I could make a pan of corned beef hash with some of the
    leftover brisket.

    Jill


    I'm a bit surprised I didn't see any corned beef briskets in this weeks
    Kroger ad. But they do have cabbage 'on sale' for 49¢ per pound and
    it's on my list for Friday's shopping.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Thu Mar 14 21:16:27 2024
    On 3/14/2024 8:52 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    jmcquown wrote:

    Long gone are the days of $2.99/lb "deals" on corned beef brisket; the
    going rate this year across all local markets was $4.99/lb.  I bought
    three of them this year; two are in the freezer.  I love corned beef
    brisket and this is the only time of year I can find it.  (Sorry, the
    canned stuff simply doesn't count as corned beef in my book and no,
    I'm not going to bother to "corn" a brisket.)  I also picked up a nice
    head of cabbage.

    I will likely cook it on Saturday.  I do it in the crock pot/slow
    cooker with the peppercorn spice packet in a minimal amount of water;
    I do add a couple of extra dried bay leaves.  Towards the end of
    cooking I cut the cabbage into wedges and cook it on top of the beef
    until it's just fork tender.

    I do not cook potatoes and carrots with this.  But I did buy some
    potatoes so I could make a pan of corned beef hash with some of the
    leftover brisket.

    Jill


    I'm a bit surprised I didn't see any corned beef briskets in this weeks Kroger ad.  But they do have cabbage 'on sale' for 49¢ per pound and
    it's on my list for Friday's shopping.


    Publix has one at $4.99/lb I'm thinking that is much higher than last
    year.

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Fri Mar 15 18:04:29 2024
    ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    jmcquown wrote:

    Long gone are the days of $2.99/lb "deals" on corned beef brisket;
    the going rate this year across all local markets was $4.99/lb. I
    bought three of them this year; two are in the freezer. I love
    corned beef brisket and this is the only time of year I can find
    it. (Sorry, the canned stuff simply doesn't count as corned beef
    in my book and no, I'm not going to bother to "corn" a brisket.)
    I also picked up a nice head of cabbage.

    I will likely cook it on Saturday. I do it in the crock pot/slow
    cooker with the peppercorn spice packet in a minimal amount of
    water; I do add a couple of extra dried bay leaves. Towards the
    end of cooking I cut the cabbage into wedges and cook it on top of
    the beef until it's just fork tender.

    I do not cook potatoes and carrots with this. But I did buy some
    potatoes so I could make a pan of corned beef hash with some of the leftover brisket.

    Jill


    I'm a bit surprised I didn't see any corned beef briskets in this
    weeks Kroger ad. But they do have cabbage 'on sale' for 49¢ per
    pound and it's on my list for Friday's shopping.

    Not really good sales on the corned beef here either. Cabbage though
    is 25cents/lb. Nothing really exciting this week.

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to Ed P on Fri Mar 15 18:05:26 2024
    Ed P wrote:

    On 3/14/2024 8:52 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    jmcquown wrote:

    Long gone are the days of $2.99/lb "deals" on corned beef
    brisket; the going rate this year across all local markets was $4.99/lb.  I bought three of them this year; two are in the
    freezer.  I love corned beef brisket and this is the only time
    of year I can find it.  (Sorry, the canned stuff simply doesn't
    count as corned beef in my book and no, I'm not going to bother
    to "corn" a brisket.)  I also picked up a nice head of cabbage.

    I will likely cook it on Saturday.  I do it in the crock pot/slow
    cooker with the peppercorn spice packet in a minimal amount of
    water; I do add a couple of extra dried bay leaves.  Towards the
    end of cooking I cut the cabbage into wedges and cook it on top
    of the beef until it's just fork tender.

    I do not cook potatoes and carrots with this.  But I did buy some potatoes so I could make a pan of corned beef hash with some of
    the leftover brisket.

    Jill


    I'm a bit surprised I didn't see any corned beef briskets in this
    weeks Kroger ad.  But they do have cabbage 'on sale' for 49¢ per
    pound and it's on my list for Friday's shopping.


    Publix has one at $4.99/lb I'm thinking that is much higher than
    last year.

    It is. They went up a whole dollar this year.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to cshenk on Fri Mar 15 18:39:33 2024
    On 2024-03-15, cshenk <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
    ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    jmcquown wrote:

    Long gone are the days of $2.99/lb "deals" on corned beef brisket;
    the going rate this year across all local markets was $4.99/lb. I
    bought three of them this year; two are in the freezer. I love
    corned beef brisket and this is the only time of year I can find
    it. (Sorry, the canned stuff simply doesn't count as corned beef
    in my book and no, I'm not going to bother to "corn" a brisket.)
    I also picked up a nice head of cabbage.

    I will likely cook it on Saturday. I do it in the crock pot/slow
    cooker with the peppercorn spice packet in a minimal amount of
    water; I do add a couple of extra dried bay leaves. Towards the
    end of cooking I cut the cabbage into wedges and cook it on top of
    the beef until it's just fork tender.

    I do not cook potatoes and carrots with this. But I did buy some
    potatoes so I could make a pan of corned beef hash with some of the
    leftover brisket.

    Jill


    I'm a bit surprised I didn't see any corned beef briskets in this
    weeks Kroger ad. But they do have cabbage 'on sale' for 49¢ per
    pound and it's on my list for Friday's shopping.

    Not really good sales on the corned beef here either. Cabbage though
    is 25cents/lb. Nothing really exciting this week.

    $3.99/lb here. Cabbage, however, isn't on sale at my grocery
    store. $0.69/lb.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Fri Mar 15 13:01:38 2024
    On 2024-03-14 2:29 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    Long gone are the days of $2.99/lb "deals" on corned beef brisket; the
    going rate this year across all local markets was $4.99/lb.  I bought
    three of them this year; two are in the freezer.  I love corned beef
    brisket and this is the only time of year I can find it.  (Sorry, the
    canned stuff simply doesn't count as corned beef in my book and no, I'm
    not going to bother to "corn" a brisket.)  I also picked up a nice head
    of cabbage.

    I will likely cook it on Saturday.  I do it in the crock pot/slow cooker with the peppercorn spice packet in a minimal amount of water; I do add
    a couple of extra dried bay leaves.  Towards the end of cooking I cut
    the cabbage into wedges and cook it on top of the beef until it's just
    fork tender.

    I do not cook potatoes and carrots with this.  But I did buy some
    potatoes so I could make a pan of corned beef hash with some of the
    leftover brisket.

    Jill

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Fri Mar 15 19:49:46 2024
    On 2024-03-14, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    Long gone are the days of $2.99/lb "deals" on corned beef brisket; the
    going rate this year across all local markets was $4.99/lb. I bought
    three of them this year; two are in the freezer. I love corned beef
    brisket and this is the only time of year I can find it. (Sorry, the
    canned stuff simply doesn't count as corned beef in my book and no, I'm
    not going to bother to "corn" a brisket.) I also picked up a nice head
    of cabbage.


    I bought corned beef rounds for $4.99/lb. I took your advice and bought
    two for the first time ever and froze one. Although corned beef is
    available year-around in the refrigerator section of my supermarket, the
    price is generally atrocious.
    I'll make corned beef, potatoes, carrots and cabbage on the stove-top. I
    serve with yellow mustard. YMMV :)

    leo

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  • From GM@21:1/5 to Graham on Fri Mar 15 19:22:33 2024
    Graham wrote:


    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade


    On The Lord's Day we *rest*, Graham...!!!

    --
    GM

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Fri Mar 15 15:55:57 2024
    On 3/14/2024 8:52 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    jmcquown wrote:

    Long gone are the days of $2.99/lb "deals" on corned beef brisket; the
    going rate this year across all local markets was $4.99/lb.  I bought
    three of them this year; two are in the freezer.  I love corned beef
    brisket and this is the only time of year I can find it.  (Sorry, the
    canned stuff simply doesn't count as corned beef in my book and no,
    I'm not going to bother to "corn" a brisket.)  I also picked up a nice
    head of cabbage.

    I will likely cook it on Saturday.  I do it in the crock pot/slow
    cooker with the peppercorn spice packet in a minimal amount of water;
    I do add a couple of extra dried bay leaves.  Towards the end of
    cooking I cut the cabbage into wedges and cook it on top of the beef
    until it's just fork tender.

    I do not cook potatoes and carrots with this.  But I did buy some
    potatoes so I could make a pan of corned beef hash with some of the
    leftover brisket.

    Jill


    I'm a bit surprised I didn't see any corned beef briskets in this weeks Kroger ad.  But they do have cabbage 'on sale' for 49¢ per pound and
    it's on my list for Friday's shopping.

    Kroger probably has corned beef brisket although I'm surprised you
    didn't see it in their ad, too. (There weren't very many of them left
    when I stopped at Publix on Friday.)

    Jill

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Graham on Fri Mar 15 15:58:00 2024
    On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-14 2:29 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    Long gone are the days of $2.99/lb "deals" on corned beef brisket; the
    going rate this year across all local markets was $4.99/lb.  I bought
    three of them this year; two are in the freezer.  I love corned beef
    brisket and this is the only time of year I can find it.  (Sorry, the
    canned stuff simply doesn't count as corned beef in my book and no,
    I'm not going to bother to "corn" a brisket.)  I also picked up a nice
    head of cabbage.

    I will likely cook it on Saturday.  I do it in the crock pot/slow
    cooker with the peppercorn spice packet in a minimal amount of water;
    I do add a couple of extra dried bay leaves.  Towards the end of
    cooking I cut the cabbage into wedges and cook it on top of the beef
    until it's just fork tender.

    I do not cook potatoes and carrots with this.  But I did buy some
    potatoes so I could make a pan of corned beef hash with some of the
    leftover brisket.

    Jill

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    LOL! I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only time
    of year I can find corned beef brisket. I'm not inclined to go to the
    trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    Jill

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 16 07:00:02 2024
    On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 15:58:00 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
    wrote:

    On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-14 2:29 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    Long gone are the days of $2.99/lb "deals" on corned beef brisket; the
    going rate this year across all local markets was $4.99/lb.  I bought
    three of them this year; two are in the freezer.  I love corned beef
    brisket and this is the only time of year I can find it.  (Sorry, the
    canned stuff simply doesn't count as corned beef in my book and no,
    I'm not going to bother to "corn" a brisket.)  I also picked up a nice
    head of cabbage.

    I will likely cook it on Saturday.  I do it in the crock pot/slow
    cooker with the peppercorn spice packet in a minimal amount of water;
    I do add a couple of extra dried bay leaves.  Towards the end of
    cooking I cut the cabbage into wedges and cook it on top of the beef
    until it's just fork tender.

    I do not cook potatoes and carrots with this.  But I did buy some
    potatoes so I could make a pan of corned beef hash with some of the
    leftover brisket.

    Jill

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    LOL! I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only time
    of year I can find corned beef brisket. I'm not inclined to go to the >trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    Wrapping it in corn?

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  • From heyjoe@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Fri Mar 15 19:53:55 2024
    Cindy Hamilton wrote :

    $3.99/lb here.

    point is $3.99/lb here
    flat is $4.99/lb.

    --
    What doesn't kill you . . .
    mutates and tries again.

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Fri Mar 15 16:00:43 2024
    On 3/15/2024 3:49 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2024-03-14, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    Long gone are the days of $2.99/lb "deals" on corned beef brisket; the
    going rate this year across all local markets was $4.99/lb. I bought
    three of them this year; two are in the freezer. I love corned beef
    brisket and this is the only time of year I can find it. (Sorry, the
    canned stuff simply doesn't count as corned beef in my book and no, I'm
    not going to bother to "corn" a brisket.) I also picked up a nice head
    of cabbage.


    I bought corned beef rounds for $4.99/lb. I took your advice and bought
    two for the first time ever and froze one. Although corned beef is
    available year-around in the refrigerator section of my supermarket, the price is generally atrocious.

    Ah yes, I believe the brand of Boar's Head corned beef brisket is in the refrigerated section in (of all places) the *produce* department at
    other times a year. I tried it one time when I arrived too late to get
    the regular corned beef they stock for March 17th. Not only was the
    price atrocious, it did not taste good at all.

    Jill

    I'll make corned beef, potatoes, carrots and cabbage on the stove-top. I serve with yellow mustard. YMMV :)

    leo

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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri Mar 15 20:21:33 2024
    On 15/03/2024 20:00, Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 15:58:00 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
    wrote:

    LOL! I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only time
    of year I can find corned beef brisket. I'm not inclined to go to the
    trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    Wrapping it in corn?

    'Corned' beef, from the large grains of salt used.

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  • From GM@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Fri Mar 15 20:36:49 2024
    BryanGSimmons wrote:

    On 3/14/2024 3:29 PM, jmcquown wrote:
    Long gone are the days of $2.99/lb "deals" on corned beef brisket; the
    going rate this year across all local markets was $4.99/lb.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/5gPTrpVueSY6WBUc6


    A nice piece 'o meat...

    And seeing that Jill lives in a Gated Royal Enclave, she "doesn't get out much" to peruse other supermercardos and their prices...

    --
    GM

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to S Viemeister on Fri Mar 15 16:44:08 2024
    On 3/15/2024 4:21 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
    On 15/03/2024 20:00, Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 15:58:00 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
    wrote:

    LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only time >>> of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go to the
    trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    Wrapping it in corn?

    'Corned' beef, from the large grains of salt used.

    Pink curing salt and pickling spices:

    https://www.foodnetwork.com/fn-dish/recipes/2020/3/how-to-make-corned-beef-from-scratch

    Bruce has an unnatural fear of the word "corn". ;)

    Jill

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to firstname@lastname.oc.ku on Sat Mar 16 07:50:31 2024
    On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 20:21:33 +0000, S Viemeister
    <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:

    On 15/03/2024 20:00, Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 15:58:00 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
    wrote:

    LOL! I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only time >>> of year I can find corned beef brisket. I'm not inclined to go to the
    trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    Wrapping it in corn?

    'Corned' beef, from the large grains of salt used.

    Oh, thanks. Mispronounced in old school Dutch as corNETbeef.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 16 07:54:06 2024
    On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 16:44:08 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
    wrote:

    On 3/15/2024 4:21 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
    On 15/03/2024 20:00, Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 15:58:00 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
    wrote:

    LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only time >>>> of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go to the >>>> trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    Wrapping it in corn?

    'Corned' beef, from the large grains of salt used.

    Pink curing salt and pickling spices:

    https://www.foodnetwork.com/fn-dish/recipes/2020/3/how-to-make-corned-beef-from-scratch

    Bruce has an unnatural fear of the word "corn". ;)

    Yes, I have to work on that. I knew (canned) corned beef, but I didn't
    know corning brisket was the same thing.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Fri Mar 15 17:06:01 2024
    On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only time
    of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic ancestry
    and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled potatoes thing
    every year and it was probably my least favourite dinner of the year,
    followed by another other meal that involved cabbage. I am not adverse
    to the corned beef part but I just can't do it that day with the
    expectation of all the other supposedly traditional Irish stuff.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to adavid.smith@sympatico.ca on Sat Mar 16 08:26:36 2024
    On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 17:06:01 -0400, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only time
    of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go to the
    trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic ancestry
    and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled potatoes thing
    every year and it was probably my least favourite dinner of the year, >followed by another other meal that involved cabbage. I am not adverse
    to the corned beef part but I just can't do it that day with the
    expectation of all the other supposedly traditional Irish stuff.

    'Supposedly?' Are the Irish making it up?

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  • From William Price@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri Mar 15 17:45:35 2024
    Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 17:06:01 -0400, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only time >>> of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go to the
    trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic ancestry
    and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled potatoes thing
    every year and it was probably my least favourite dinner of the year,
    followed by another other meal that involved cabbage. I am not adverse
    to the corned beef part but I just can't do it that day with the
    expectation of all the other supposedly traditional Irish stuff.

    'Supposedly?' Are the Irish making it up?


    Hey, take notice, officer Dave supposedly knows thing.

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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri Mar 15 21:47:08 2024
    On 15/03/2024 21:26, Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 17:06:01 -0400, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic ancestry
    and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled potatoes thing
    every year and it was probably my least favourite dinner of the year,
    followed by another other meal that involved cabbage. I am not adverse
    to the corned beef part but I just can't do it that day with the
    expectation of all the other supposedly traditional Irish stuff.

    'Supposedly?' Are the Irish making it up?

    Corned beef as a 'traditional' food for St Patrick's day, has an
    interesting history...

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri Mar 15 15:49:50 2024
    On 2024-03-15 3:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only
    time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go
    to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic ancestry
    and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled potatoes thing
    every year and it was probably my least favourite dinner of the year, followed by another other meal that involved cabbage.  I am not adverse
    to the corned beef part but I just can't do it that day with the
    expectation of all the other supposedly traditional Irish stuff.


    Including the ubiquitous banshee music.

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri Mar 15 17:57:07 2024
    On 3/15/2024 5:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only
    time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go
    to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic ancestry
    and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled potatoes thing
    every year and it was probably my least favourite dinner of the year, followed by another other meal that involved cabbage.  I am not adverse
    to the corned beef part but I just can't do it that day with the
    expectation of all the other supposedly traditional Irish stuff.


    I'm not interested in the Irish traditions involving corned beef (which,
    BTW, aren't really Irish). I simply love corned beef brisket and cabbage.

    Jill

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  • From William Price@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Fri Mar 15 17:49:35 2024
    jmcquown wrote:
    Kroger probably has corned beef brisket although I'm surprised you
    didn't see it in their ad, too.  (There weren't very many of them left
    when I stopped at Publix on Friday.)

    Jill


    I picked up two nice smaller ones ones for about $7 a piece today at
    Walmart. I'll smoke one and do the other in the instant pot.

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  • From William Price@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Fri Mar 15 17:52:03 2024
    jmcquown wrote:
    Bruce has an unnatural fear of the word "corn". ;)

    Jill

    I have no problem with corn, except for it being 10 percent
    of the supposed gasoline I'm buying now.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to heyjoe on Fri Mar 15 22:00:45 2024
    On 2024-03-15, heyjoe <address@is.invalid> wrote:
    Cindy Hamilton wrote :

    $3.99/lb here.

    point is $3.99/lb here
    flat is $4.99/lb.

    This was probably flat. I didn't look.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to firstname@lastname.oc.ku on Sat Mar 16 10:00:59 2024
    On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 21:47:08 +0000, S Viemeister
    <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:

    On 15/03/2024 21:26, Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 17:06:01 -0400, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic ancestry >>> and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled potatoes thing
    every year and it was probably my least favourite dinner of the year,
    followed by another other meal that involved cabbage. I am not adverse
    to the corned beef part but I just can't do it that day with the
    expectation of all the other supposedly traditional Irish stuff.

    'Supposedly?' Are the Irish making it up?

    Corned beef as a 'traditional' food for St Patrick's day, has an
    interesting history...

    But "all the other supposedly traditional Irish stuff" almost implies
    a big scam. Tell us more, Dave Smith!

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Graham on Fri Mar 15 19:05:19 2024
    On 3/15/2024 5:49 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only
    time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go
    to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic
    ancestry and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled
    potatoes thing every year and it was probably my least favourite
    dinner of the year, followed by another other meal that involved
    cabbage.  I am not adverse to the corned beef part but I just can't do
    it that day with the expectation of all the other supposedly
    traditional Irish stuff.


    Including the ubiquitous banshee music.

    As if bagpipes are all that pleasant. LOL Graham, you may recall I've mentioned my Scottish grandfather was an Orangeman. I don't think about Ireland or St. Patrick when I cook corned beef brisket. I cook it
    because it tastes good. The date only matters because this is the only
    time of year I can find it in the stores. I buy extras to put in the
    freezer. I generally cook another one again in October. No St. Paddy's
    Day in October. It's about the brisket, not about the Irish.

    Jill

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Fri Mar 15 19:48:14 2024
    On 3/15/2024 3:58 PM, jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-14 2:29 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    Long gone are the days of $2.99/lb "deals" on corned beef brisket;
    the going rate this year across all local markets was $4.99/lb.  I
    bought three of them this year; two are in the freezer.  I love
    corned beef brisket and this is the only time of year I can find it.
    (Sorry, the canned stuff simply doesn't count as corned beef in my
    book and no, I'm not going to bother to "corn" a brisket.)  I also
    picked up a nice head of cabbage.

    I will likely cook it on Saturday.  I do it in the crock pot/slow
    cooker with the peppercorn spice packet in a minimal amount of water;
    I do add a couple of extra dried bay leaves.  Towards the end of
    cooking I cut the cabbage into wedges and cook it on top of the beef
    until it's just fork tender.

    I do not cook potatoes and carrots with this.  But I did buy some
    potatoes so I could make a pan of corned beef hash with some of the
    leftover brisket.

    Jill

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only time
    of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    Jill

    I've done it. Yes, it was good but cheaper/easier to buy it. I did it
    just to say I did it, like I just did. Twenty years later I got to brag
    about it! I also made pastrami.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri Mar 15 19:50:42 2024
    On 3/15/2024 4:00 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 15:58:00 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
    wrote:


    LOL! I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only time
    of year I can find corned beef brisket. I'm not inclined to go to the
    trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    Wrapping it in corn?


    Yes, exactly .

    “Corn” refers to the grains of salt used in the curing process.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sat Mar 16 11:23:45 2024
    On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 19:50:42 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    On 3/15/2024 4:00 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 15:58:00 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
    wrote:


    LOL! I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only time >>> of year I can find corned beef brisket. I'm not inclined to go to the
    trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    Wrapping it in corn?


    Yes, exactly .

    “Corn” refers to the grains of salt used in the curing process.

    Corn means a lot.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Mar 16 09:11:44 2024
    On 2024-03-15, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 21:47:08 +0000, S Viemeister
    <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:

    On 15/03/2024 21:26, Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 17:06:01 -0400, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic ancestry >>>> and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled potatoes thing >>>> every year and it was probably my least favourite dinner of the year,
    followed by another other meal that involved cabbage. I am not adverse >>>> to the corned beef part but I just can't do it that day with the
    expectation of all the other supposedly traditional Irish stuff.

    'Supposedly?' Are the Irish making it up?

    Corned beef as a 'traditional' food for St Patrick's day, has an >>interesting history...

    But "all the other supposedly traditional Irish stuff" almost implies
    a big scam. Tell us more, Dave Smith!

    I wouldn't call it a scam. I'd call it marketing.

    https://money.com/st-patricks-day-traditions-not-irish/

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Mar 16 09:24:16 2024
    On 2024-03-16, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 19:50:42 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    On 3/15/2024 4:00 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 15:58:00 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
    wrote:


    LOL! I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only time >>>> of year I can find corned beef brisket. I'm not inclined to go to the >>>> trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    Wrapping it in corn?


    Yes, exactly .

    “Corn” refers to the grains of salt used in the curing process.

    Corn means a lot.

    It used to mean "grain" rather than Zea maiz specifically.

    Consider the word "kernel", which is etymologically related.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Sat Mar 16 09:21:58 2024
    On 2024-03-15, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 5:49 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only
    time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go
    to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic
    ancestry and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled
    potatoes thing every year and it was probably my least favourite
    dinner of the year, followed by another other meal that involved
    cabbage.  I am not adverse to the corned beef part but I just can't do
    it that day with the expectation of all the other supposedly
    traditional Irish stuff.


    Including the ubiquitous banshee music.

    As if bagpipes are all that pleasant. LOL

    There are several different kinds of pipes. Northumbrian smallpipes
    can be quite pleasant. They sound kind of like an oboe on steroids.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSEn-SZzpM

    It takes a couple of minutes before the pipes come in. They're playing alongside a flute.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sat Mar 16 08:31:35 2024
    On 3/15/2024 7:48 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 3:58 PM, jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-14 2:29 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    Long gone are the days of $2.99/lb "deals" on corned beef brisket;
    the going rate this year across all local markets was $4.99/lb.  I
    bought three of them this year; two are in the freezer.  I love
    corned beef brisket and this is the only time of year I can find it.
    (Sorry, the canned stuff simply doesn't count as corned beef in my
    book and no, I'm not going to bother to "corn" a brisket.)  I also
    picked up a nice head of cabbage.

    I will likely cook it on Saturday.  I do it in the crock pot/slow
    cooker with the peppercorn spice packet in a minimal amount of
    water; I do add a couple of extra dried bay leaves.  Towards the end
    of cooking I cut the cabbage into wedges and cook it on top of the
    beef until it's just fork tender.

    I do not cook potatoes and carrots with this.  But I did buy some
    potatoes so I could make a pan of corned beef hash with some of the
    leftover brisket.

    Jill

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only
    time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go
    to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    Jill

    I've done it.  Yes, it was good but cheaper/easier to buy it.  I did it just to say I did it, like I just did.  Twenty years later I got to brag about it!  I also made pastrami.

    I made tamales from scratch once just to say I did it. Soaked the corn
    husks, slow simmered the pork roast with spices, shredded the meat, made
    the masa meal mixed with a bit of the spicy gravy, spread the masa dough
    on the soaked husks and added the shredded meat, rolled them up and
    steamed them. It was a long slow process. They were delicious! I'll
    never do it again. :)

    Jill

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat Mar 16 08:40:33 2024
    On 3/16/2024 5:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-15, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 5:49 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only >>>>> time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go >>>>> to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic
    ancestry and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled
    potatoes thing every year and it was probably my least favourite
    dinner of the year, followed by another other meal that involved
    cabbage.  I am not adverse to the corned beef part but I just can't do >>>> it that day with the expectation of all the other supposedly
    traditional Irish stuff.


    Including the ubiquitous banshee music.

    As if bagpipes are all that pleasant. LOL

    There are several different kinds of pipes. Northumbrian smallpipes
    can be quite pleasant. They sound kind of like an oboe on steroids.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSEn-SZzpM

    It takes a couple of minutes before the pipes come in. They're playing alongside a flute.

    True, but that's folk music. Not the screeling of full on bagpipes.

    Jill

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Sat Mar 16 12:58:12 2024
    On 2024-03-16, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/16/2024 5:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-15, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 5:49 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only >>>>>> time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go >>>>>> to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic
    ancestry and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled
    potatoes thing every year and it was probably my least favourite
    dinner of the year, followed by another other meal that involved
    cabbage.  I am not adverse to the corned beef part but I just can't do >>>>> it that day with the expectation of all the other supposedly
    traditional Irish stuff.


    Including the ubiquitous banshee music.

    As if bagpipes are all that pleasant. LOL

    There are several different kinds of pipes. Northumbrian smallpipes
    can be quite pleasant. They sound kind of like an oboe on steroids.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSEn-SZzpM

    It takes a couple of minutes before the pipes come in. They're playing
    alongside a flute.

    True, but that's folk music. Not the screeling of full on bagpipes.

    Skreeling bagpipes _are_ folk music.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From lucretia@florence.it@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 16 10:01:57 2024
    On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 08:40:33 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
    wrote:

    On 3/16/2024 5:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-15, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 5:49 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    LOL! I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only >>>>>> time of year I can find corned beef brisket. I'm not inclined to go >>>>>> to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic
    ancestry and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled
    potatoes thing every year and it was probably my least favourite
    dinner of the year, followed by another other meal that involved
    cabbage. I am not adverse to the corned beef part but I just can't do >>>>> it that day with the expectation of all the other supposedly
    traditional Irish stuff.


    Including the ubiquitous banshee music.

    As if bagpipes are all that pleasant. LOL

    There are several different kinds of pipes. Northumbrian smallpipes
    can be quite pleasant. They sound kind of like an oboe on steroids.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSEn-SZzpM

    It takes a couple of minutes before the pipes come in. They're playing
    alongside a flute.

    True, but that's folk music. Not the screeling of full on bagpipes.

    Jill

    If you want to point to Stan Rogers it should be this one, or Barretts Privateers. He wasn't known for pipes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMRpYtAhGAo

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  • From lucretia@florence.it@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 16 10:05:52 2024
    On 16 Mar 2024 12:58:12 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
    wrote:

    On 2024-03-16, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/16/2024 5:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-15, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 5:49 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    LOL! I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only >>>>>>> time of year I can find corned beef brisket. I'm not inclined to go >>>>>>> to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic
    ancestry and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled
    potatoes thing every year and it was probably my least favourite
    dinner of the year, followed by another other meal that involved
    cabbage. I am not adverse to the corned beef part but I just can't do >>>>>> it that day with the expectation of all the other supposedly
    traditional Irish stuff.


    Including the ubiquitous banshee music.

    As if bagpipes are all that pleasant. LOL

    There are several different kinds of pipes. Northumbrian smallpipes
    can be quite pleasant. They sound kind of like an oboe on steroids.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSEn-SZzpM

    It takes a couple of minutes before the pipes come in. They're playing
    alongside a flute.

    True, but that's folk music. Not the screeling of full on bagpipes.

    Skreeling bagpipes _are_ folk music.

    In part, I had a laugh when my father piped in the haggis for Bobbie
    Burns Night at a mess in Tokyo. The American wife standing next to
    me was astounded when he played 'Deep in the Heart of Dixie' she said
    'Oh, I didn't know bag pipes could play American tunes' - idiot!

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Sat Mar 16 09:36:26 2024
    On 2024-03-16 8:31 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 7:48 PM, Ed P wrote:

    I've done it.  Yes, it was good but cheaper/easier to buy it.  I did
    it just to say I did it, like I just did.  Twenty years later I got to
    brag about it!  I also made pastrami.

    I made tamales from scratch once just to say I did it.  Soaked the corn husks, slow simmered the pork roast with spices, shredded the meat, made
    the masa meal mixed with a bit of the spicy gravy, spread the masa dough
    on the soaked husks and added the shredded meat, rolled them up and
    steamed them.  It was a long slow process.  They were delicious!  I'll never do it again. :)


    I have had tamales a number of times and they are something I just
    cannot get excited about. Some were a little better than others, but in
    general they all a lot of bland masa and just a little good stuff in the middle. Good for you for making them but, given my experience with them,
    there is no way I am going to all that work for so little benefit.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat Mar 16 09:39:27 2024
    On 2024-03-16 8:58 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-16, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/16/2024 5:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-15, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 5:49 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only >>>>>>> time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go >>>>>>> to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic
    ancestry and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled
    potatoes thing every year and it was probably my least favourite
    dinner of the year, followed by another other meal that involved
    cabbage.  I am not adverse to the corned beef part but I just can't do >>>>>> it that day with the expectation of all the other supposedly
    traditional Irish stuff.


    Including the ubiquitous banshee music.

    As if bagpipes are all that pleasant. LOL

    There are several different kinds of pipes. Northumbrian smallpipes
    can be quite pleasant. They sound kind of like an oboe on steroids.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSEn-SZzpM

    It takes a couple of minutes before the pipes come in. They're playing
    alongside a flute.

    True, but that's folk music. Not the screeling of full on bagpipes.

    Skreeling bagpipes _are_ folk music.


    Skreel or skirl?

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat Mar 16 09:47:24 2024
    On 3/16/2024 8:58 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-16, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/16/2024 5:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-15, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 5:49 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only >>>>>>> time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go >>>>>>> to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic
    ancestry and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled
    potatoes thing every year and it was probably my least favourite
    dinner of the year, followed by another other meal that involved
    cabbage.  I am not adverse to the corned beef part but I just can't do >>>>>> it that day with the expectation of all the other supposedly
    traditional Irish stuff.


    Including the ubiquitous banshee music.

    As if bagpipes are all that pleasant. LOL

    There are several different kinds of pipes. Northumbrian smallpipes
    can be quite pleasant. They sound kind of like an oboe on steroids.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSEn-SZzpM

    It takes a couple of minutes before the pipes come in. They're playing
    alongside a flute.

    True, but that's folk music. Not the screeling of full on bagpipes.

    Skreeling bagpipes _are_ folk music.

    The ones marching in formation in front of the various palaces in the UK
    in unison don't sound sweet or soothing.

    Jill

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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Sat Mar 16 13:45:42 2024
    On 16/03/2024 13:01, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    If you want to point to Stan Rogers it should be this one, or Barretts Privateers. He wasn't known for pipes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMRpYtAhGAo

    He died far too young. That one, and Barrett's Privateers are favourites
    of mine.
    Friends of mine from my days on the folk scene in Edinburgh, recorded
    some of his songs - they do an excellent version of Privateers.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=R-Yn9_JV4do>

    (One of Ian's cousins is married to a cousin of mine.)

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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Sat Mar 16 13:55:46 2024
    On 16/03/2024 13:47, jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/16/2024 8:58 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    Skreeling bagpipes _are_ folk music.

    The ones marching in formation in front of the various palaces in the UK
    in unison don't sound sweet or soothing.

    Those are war pipes - they aren't meant to be soothing!

    Parlour pipes, though, can be lovely.

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Sat Mar 16 09:49:26 2024
    On 3/16/2024 9:01 AM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 08:40:33 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
    wrote:

    On 3/16/2024 5:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-15, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 5:49 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only >>>>>>> time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go >>>>>>> to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic
    ancestry and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled
    potatoes thing every year and it was probably my least favourite
    dinner of the year, followed by another other meal that involved
    cabbage.  I am not adverse to the corned beef part but I just can't do >>>>>> it that day with the expectation of all the other supposedly
    traditional Irish stuff.


    Including the ubiquitous banshee music.

    As if bagpipes are all that pleasant. LOL

    There are several different kinds of pipes. Northumbrian smallpipes
    can be quite pleasant. They sound kind of like an oboe on steroids.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSEn-SZzpM

    It takes a couple of minutes before the pipes come in. They're playing
    alongside a flute.

    True, but that's folk music. Not the screeling of full on bagpipes.

    Jill

    If you want to point to Stan Rogers it should be this one, or Barretts Privateers. He wasn't known for pipes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMRpYtAhGAo

    That's very nice. :)

    Jill

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to S Viemeister on Sat Mar 16 10:00:57 2024
    On 3/16/2024 9:45 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
    On 16/03/2024 13:01, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    If you want to point to Stan Rogers it should be this one, or Barretts
    Privateers.  He wasn't known for pipes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMRpYtAhGAo

    He died far too young. That one, and Barrett's Privateers are favourites
    of mine.
    Friends of mine from my days on the folk scene in Edinburgh, recorded
    some of his songs - they do an excellent version of Privateers.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=R-Yn9_JV4do>

    (One of Ian's cousins is married to a cousin of mine.)

    That's almost like a sea shanty. There are some drums in there,
    bohdran's are likely common all across the UK.

    Jill

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to S Viemeister on Sat Mar 16 10:07:00 2024
    On 3/16/2024 9:55 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
    On 16/03/2024 13:47, jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/16/2024 8:58 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    Skreeling bagpipes _are_ folk music.

    The ones marching in formation in front of the various palaces in the
    UK in unison don't sound sweet or soothing.

    Those are war pipes - they aren't meant to be soothing!

    Those are the only sounds I've seen, the ones marching ahead of a
    wedding or state funeral (dirges).

    Parlour pipes, though, can be lovely.

    I don't disbelieve that. A flute is a pipe, after all.

    Jill

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  • From lucretia@florence.it@21:1/5 to firstname@lastname.oc.ku on Sat Mar 16 11:21:16 2024
    On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 13:45:42 +0000, S Viemeister
    <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:

    On 16/03/2024 13:01, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    If you want to point to Stan Rogers it should be this one, or Barretts
    Privateers. He wasn't known for pipes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMRpYtAhGAo

    He died far too young. That one, and Barrett's Privateers are favourites
    of mine.
    Friends of mine from my days on the folk scene in Edinburgh, recorded
    some of his songs - they do an excellent version of Privateers.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=R-Yn9_JV4do>

    (One of Ian's cousins is married to a cousin of mine.)

    Yes, he did die far too young, Harry Chapin likewise :( That is a
    nice job of Barratts, the other Stan Rogers I love is Cape St. Mary's,
    though I confess there aren't any of his I dislike :)

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat Mar 16 10:25:36 2024
    On 3/16/2024 9:36 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-16 8:31 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 7:48 PM, Ed P wrote:

    I've done it.  Yes, it was good but cheaper/easier to buy it.  I did
    it just to say I did it, like I just did.  Twenty years later I got
    to brag about it!  I also made pastrami.

    I made tamales from scratch once just to say I did it.  Soaked the
    corn husks, slow simmered the pork roast with spices, shredded the
    meat, made the masa meal mixed with a bit of the spicy gravy, spread
    the masa dough on the soaked husks and added the shredded meat, rolled
    them up and steamed them.  It was a long slow process.  They were
    delicious!  I'll never do it again. :)


    I have had tamales a number of times and they are something I just
    cannot get excited about. Some were a little better than others, but in general they all a lot of bland masa and just a little good stuff in the middle. Good for you for making them but, given my experience with them, there is no way I am going to all that work for so little benefit.

    There are different styles of tamales. The ones I made were purely
    Tex-mex but the masa had the nicely spiced gravy from the slow simmering
    of the meat with all the spices added in. Spread on the soaked corn
    husks, filled and rolled, simmered over the rest of the gravy. They were delicious but not worth all the trouble.

    There are different styles of tamales. There was a restaurant in
    Memphis (long defunct) that made them differently, they were slightly
    doughy but had a great spicy shredded meat filling, served unwrapped and
    topped with an almost "country gravy" with lots of spice.

    The tamales made locally are steamed in banana leaves rather than corn
    husks.

    Jill

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Sat Mar 16 10:38:47 2024
    On 2024-03-16 10:25 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/16/2024 9:36 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-16 8:31 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 7:48 PM, Ed P wrote:

    I've done it.  Yes, it was good but cheaper/easier to buy it.  I did >>>> it just to say I did it, like I just did.  Twenty years later I got
    to brag about it!  I also made pastrami.

    I made tamales from scratch once just to say I did it.  Soaked the
    corn husks, slow simmered the pork roast with spices, shredded the
    meat, made the masa meal mixed with a bit of the spicy gravy, spread
    the masa dough on the soaked husks and added the shredded meat,
    rolled them up and steamed them.  It was a long slow process.  They
    were delicious!  I'll never do it again. :)


    I have had tamales a number of times and they are something I just
    cannot get excited about. Some were a little better than others, but
    in general they all a lot of bland masa and just a little good stuff
    in the middle. Good for you for making them but, given my experience
    with them, there is no way I am going to all that work for so little
    benefit.

    There are different styles of tamales.  The ones I made were purely
    Tex-mex but the masa had the nicely spiced gravy from the slow simmering
    of the meat with all the spices added in.  Spread on the soaked corn
    husks, filled and rolled, simmered over the rest of the gravy. They were delicious but not worth all the trouble.

    There are different styles of tamales.  There was a restaurant in
    Memphis (long defunct) that made them differently, they were slightly
    doughy but had a great spicy shredded meat filling, served unwrapped and topped with an almost "country gravy" with lots of spice.

    There is not much of a Latino community here, and especially not
    Mexican, so real Mexican food is rare. Our former neighbours had
    Mexican friends who used to come to their parties and always brought a
    ton of food. A couple times they brought tamales. We have also had them
    from a stand at the farmers market in the city. They are okay. I will
    take them if they are free. If it's a restaurant and there is a menu you
    can bet I will order something else. No way I am making them.

    The tamales made locally are steamed in banana leaves rather than corn
    husks.


    I can see that leading to a slight difference. When I have had them
    there was the distinct taste of corn husk.

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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Sat Mar 16 14:46:43 2024
    On 16/03/2024 14:21, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 13:45:42 +0000, S Viemeister
    <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:

    On 16/03/2024 13:01, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    If you want to point to Stan Rogers it should be this one, or Barretts
    Privateers. He wasn't known for pipes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMRpYtAhGAo

    He died far too young. That one, and Barrett's Privateers are favourites
    of mine.
    Friends of mine from my days on the folk scene in Edinburgh, recorded
    some of his songs - they do an excellent version of Privateers.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=R-Yn9_JV4do>

    (One of Ian's cousins is married to a cousin of mine.)

    Yes, he did die far too young, Harry Chapin likewise :( That is a
    nice job of Barratts, the other Stan Rogers I love is Cape St. Mary's,
    though I confess there aren't any of his I dislike :)

    That's one I wasn't familiar with - thank you!

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat Mar 16 11:02:50 2024
    On 3/16/2024 10:38 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-16 10:25 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/16/2024 9:36 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-16 8:31 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 7:48 PM, Ed P wrote:

    I've done it.  Yes, it was good but cheaper/easier to buy it.  I
    did it just to say I did it, like I just did.  Twenty years later I >>>>> got to brag about it!  I also made pastrami.

    I made tamales from scratch once just to say I did it.  Soaked the
    corn husks, slow simmered the pork roast with spices, shredded the
    meat, made the masa meal mixed with a bit of the spicy gravy, spread
    the masa dough on the soaked husks and added the shredded meat,
    rolled them up and steamed them.  It was a long slow process.  They
    were delicious!  I'll never do it again. :)


    I have had tamales a number of times and they are something I just
    cannot get excited about. Some were a little better than others, but
    in general they all a lot of bland masa and just a little good stuff
    in the middle. Good for you for making them but, given my experience
    with them, there is no way I am going to all that work for so little
    benefit.

    There are different styles of tamales.  There was a restaurant in
    Memphis (long defunct) that made them differently, they were slightly
    doughy but had a great spicy shredded meat filling, served unwrapped
    and topped with an almost "country gravy" with lots of spice.

    There is not much of a Latino community here, and especially not
    Mexican, so real Mexican food is rare.
    (snip)
    I will
    take them if they are free. If it's a restaurant and there is a menu you
    can bet I will order something else. No way I am making them.

    The tamales made locally are
    steamed in banana leaves rather than corn
    husks.

    I can see that leading to a slight difference. When I have had them
    there was the distinct taste of corn husk.

    It might dismay Bruce to know not everything involves corn! ;) Banana
    leaves are more common here and they hold the shape and steam the
    tamales very well. I still don't plan to make tamales again any time soon.

    Jill

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Sat Mar 16 11:08:21 2024
    On 2024-03-16 11:02 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/16/2024 10:38 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

    I can see that leading to a slight difference. When I have had them
    there was the distinct taste of corn husk.

    It might dismay Bruce to know not everything involves corn! ;)

    Yeah well, he may be simply misinformed or he is being intentionally
    dense to maintain his persona. I don't know why anyone indulges him
    anymore. His act got tiresome years ago.

      Banana
    leaves are more common here and they hold the shape and steam the
    tamales very well.  I still don't plan to make tamales again any time soon.


    I don't blame you at all. I have had commercially made tamales,
    restaurant tamales and home made tamales. They are okay but just not
    worth any effort.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Sat Mar 16 15:22:30 2024
    On 2024-03-16, lucretia@florence.it <lucretia@florence.it> wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 08:40:33 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
    wrote:

    On 3/16/2024 5:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-15, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 5:49 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only >>>>>>> time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go >>>>>>> to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic
    ancestry and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled
    potatoes thing every year and it was probably my least favourite
    dinner of the year, followed by another other meal that involved
    cabbage.  I am not adverse to the corned beef part but I just can't do >>>>>> it that day with the expectation of all the other supposedly
    traditional Irish stuff.


    Including the ubiquitous banshee music.

    As if bagpipes are all that pleasant. LOL

    There are several different kinds of pipes. Northumbrian smallpipes
    can be quite pleasant. They sound kind of like an oboe on steroids.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSEn-SZzpM

    It takes a couple of minutes before the pipes come in. They're playing
    alongside a flute.

    True, but that's folk music. Not the screeling of full on bagpipes.

    Jill

    If you want to point to Stan Rogers it should be this one, or Barretts Privateers.

    I wanted to point to a song that featured chamber pipes. "Harris
    and the Mare" was the first one that came to mind. Plus, it's one
    of my favorites.

    He wasn't known for pipes.

    You're right. The Northumbrian pipes were played by one of his
    sidemen, and not all of his songs featured them.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMRpYtAhGAo

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Sat Mar 16 15:19:59 2024
    On 2024-03-16, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/16/2024 9:55 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
    On 16/03/2024 13:47, jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/16/2024 8:58 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    Skreeling bagpipes _are_ folk music.

    The ones marching in formation in front of the various palaces in the
    UK in unison don't sound sweet or soothing.

    Those are war pipes - they aren't meant to be soothing!

    Those are the only sounds I've seen, the ones marching ahead of a
    wedding or state funeral (dirges).

    Parlour pipes, though, can be lovely.

    I don't disbelieve that. A flute is a pipe, after all.

    A flute is not closely related to bagpipes. Flutes produce
    music by splitting a column of air across an edge. Bagpipes
    produce music by passing a column of air through a joined pair
    of reeds. That's why they sound like angry oboes. There are
    no human lips to control the pressure on the reeds.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Sat Mar 16 15:17:53 2024
    On 2024-03-16, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/16/2024 8:58 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-16, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/16/2024 5:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-15, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 5:49 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only >>>>>>>> time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go >>>>>>>> to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic
    ancestry and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled >>>>>>> potatoes thing every year and it was probably my least favourite >>>>>>> dinner of the year, followed by another other meal that involved >>>>>>> cabbage.  I am not adverse to the corned beef part but I just can't do >>>>>>> it that day with the expectation of all the other supposedly
    traditional Irish stuff.


    Including the ubiquitous banshee music.

    As if bagpipes are all that pleasant. LOL

    There are several different kinds of pipes. Northumbrian smallpipes
    can be quite pleasant. They sound kind of like an oboe on steroids.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSEn-SZzpM

    It takes a couple of minutes before the pipes come in. They're playing >>>> alongside a flute.

    True, but that's folk music. Not the screeling of full on bagpipes.

    Skreeling bagpipes _are_ folk music.

    The ones marching in formation in front of the various palaces in the UK
    in unison don't sound sweet or soothing.

    Folk music is not universally sweet or soothing. Perhaps that's your
    taste in folk music, but it's not the whole story.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat Mar 16 15:15:58 2024
    On 2024-03-16, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2024-03-16 8:58 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-16, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/16/2024 5:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-15, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 5:49 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only >>>>>>>> time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go >>>>>>>> to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic
    ancestry and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled >>>>>>> potatoes thing every year and it was probably my least favourite >>>>>>> dinner of the year, followed by another other meal that involved >>>>>>> cabbage.  I am not adverse to the corned beef part but I just can't do >>>>>>> it that day with the expectation of all the other supposedly
    traditional Irish stuff.


    Including the ubiquitous banshee music.

    As if bagpipes are all that pleasant. LOL

    There are several different kinds of pipes. Northumbrian smallpipes
    can be quite pleasant. They sound kind of like an oboe on steroids.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSEn-SZzpM

    It takes a couple of minutes before the pipes come in. They're playing >>>> alongside a flute.

    True, but that's folk music. Not the screeling of full on bagpipes.

    Skreeling bagpipes _are_ folk music.


    Skreel or skirl?

    Thanks. I knew the 'c' wasn't right, but my rhinovirus-addled brain
    couldn't come up with "skirling".

    Although if you don't enjoy the pipes, "screeling" is close to
    "screeching".

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to S Viemeister on Sat Mar 16 15:30:12 2024
    On 2024-03-16, S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
    On 16/03/2024 13:01, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    If you want to point to Stan Rogers it should be this one, or Barretts
    Privateers. He wasn't known for pipes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMRpYtAhGAo

    He died far too young.

    You are so right. He died young and useless pieces of shit like
    Donald Trump live to a ripe old age.

    That one, and Barrett's Privateers are favourites
    of mine.

    Friends of mine from my days on the folk scene in Edinburgh, recorded
    some of his songs - they do an excellent version of Privateers.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=R-Yn9_JV4do>

    (One of Ian's cousins is married to a cousin of mine.)

    That was a good rendition. My husband has a folk-punk recording.
    It's pretty intense.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Sat Mar 16 15:36:32 2024
    On 2024-03-16, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/16/2024 9:45 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
    On 16/03/2024 13:01, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    If you want to point to Stan Rogers it should be this one, or Barretts
    Privateers.  He wasn't known for pipes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMRpYtAhGAo

    He died far too young. That one, and Barrett's Privateers are favourites
    of mine.
    Friends of mine from my days on the folk scene in Edinburgh, recorded
    some of his songs - they do an excellent version of Privateers.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=R-Yn9_JV4do>

    (One of Ian's cousins is married to a cousin of mine.)

    That's almost like a sea shanty.

    A capstan shanty, perhaps. There were different types of shanty
    for different types of work on ships. Not every nautical song
    is a shanty.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat Mar 16 15:44:32 2024
    On 16/03/2024 15:30, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-16, S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
    On 16/03/2024 13:01, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    If you want to point to Stan Rogers it should be this one, or Barretts
    Privateers. He wasn't known for pipes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMRpYtAhGAo

    He died far too young.

    You are so right. He died young and useless pieces of shit like
    Donald Trump live to a ripe old age.

    That one, and Barrett's Privateers are favourites
    of mine.

    Friends of mine from my days on the folk scene in Edinburgh, recorded
    some of his songs - they do an excellent version of Privateers.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=R-Yn9_JV4do>

    (One of Ian's cousins is married to a cousin of mine.)

    That was a good rendition. My husband has a folk-punk recording.
    It's pretty intense.

    <boggle>!!
    Who performed that?

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to S Viemeister on Sat Mar 16 16:27:04 2024
    On 2024-03-16, S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
    On 16/03/2024 15:30, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-16, S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
    On 16/03/2024 13:01, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    If you want to point to Stan Rogers it should be this one, or Barretts >>>> Privateers. He wasn't known for pipes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMRpYtAhGAo

    He died far too young.

    You are so right. He died young and useless pieces of shit like
    Donald Trump live to a ripe old age.

    That one, and Barrett's Privateers are favourites
    of mine.

    Friends of mine from my days on the folk scene in Edinburgh, recorded
    some of his songs - they do an excellent version of Privateers.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=R-Yn9_JV4do>

    (One of Ian's cousins is married to a cousin of mine.)

    That was a good rendition. My husband has a folk-punk recording.
    It's pretty intense.

    <boggle>!!
    Who performed that?

    The Real McKenzies

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat Mar 16 17:14:41 2024
    On 16/03/2024 16:27, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-16, S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
    On 16/03/2024 15:30, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-16, S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
    On 16/03/2024 13:01, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    If you want to point to Stan Rogers it should be this one, or Barretts >>>>> Privateers. He wasn't known for pipes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMRpYtAhGAo

    He died far too young.

    You are so right. He died young and useless pieces of shit like
    Donald Trump live to a ripe old age.

    That one, and Barrett's Privateers are favourites
    of mine.

    Friends of mine from my days on the folk scene in Edinburgh, recorded
    some of his songs - they do an excellent version of Privateers.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=R-Yn9_JV4do>

    (One of Ian's cousins is married to a cousin of mine.)

    That was a good rendition. My husband has a folk-punk recording.
    It's pretty intense.

    <boggle>!!
    Who performed that?

    The Real McKenzies

    I'll have to look them up (my Granny was a MacKenzie).

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 16 17:38:30 2024
    In article <ut47tg$2srjn$6@dont-email.me>,
    j_mcquown@comcast.net says...

    On 3/16/2024 8:58 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-16, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/16/2024 5:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-15, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 5:49 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    LOL! I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only >>>>>>> time of year I can find corned beef brisket. I'm not inclined to go >>>>>>> to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic
    ancestry and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled >>>>>> potatoes thing every year and it was probably my least favourite >>>>>> dinner of the year, followed by another other meal that involved >>>>>> cabbage. I am not adverse to the corned beef part but I just can't do >>>>>> it that day with the expectation of all the other supposedly
    traditional Irish stuff.


    Including the ubiquitous banshee music.

    As if bagpipes are all that pleasant. LOL

    There are several different kinds of pipes. Northumbrian smallpipes
    can be quite pleasant. They sound kind of like an oboe on steroids.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSEn-SZzpM

    It takes a couple of minutes before the pipes come in. They're playing >>> alongside a flute.

    True, but that's folk music. Not the screeling of full on bagpipes.

    Skreeling bagpipes _are_ folk music.

    The ones marching in formation in front of the various palaces in the UK
    in unison don't sound sweet or soothing.

    That's because those are military bands playing war
    music intended to intimidate the enemy.

    unlike the Uillan elbow pipes of Irish folk music.

    Janet UK

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Sat Mar 16 11:43:31 2024
    On 2024-03-16 7:05 a.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On 16 Mar 2024 12:58:12 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
    wrote:

    On 2024-03-16, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/16/2024 5:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-15, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 5:49 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only >>>>>>>> time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go >>>>>>>> to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic
    ancestry and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled >>>>>>> potatoes thing every year and it was probably my least favourite >>>>>>> dinner of the year, followed by another other meal that involved >>>>>>> cabbage.  I am not adverse to the corned beef part but I just can't do >>>>>>> it that day with the expectation of all the other supposedly
    traditional Irish stuff.


    Including the ubiquitous banshee music.

    As if bagpipes are all that pleasant. LOL

    There are several different kinds of pipes. Northumbrian smallpipes
    can be quite pleasant. They sound kind of like an oboe on steroids.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSEn-SZzpM

    It takes a couple of minutes before the pipes come in. They're playing >>>> alongside a flute.

    True, but that's folk music. Not the screeling of full on bagpipes.

    Skreeling bagpipes _are_ folk music.

    In part, I had a laugh when my father piped in the haggis for Bobbie
    Burns Night at a mess in Tokyo. The American wife standing next to
    me was astounded when he played 'Deep in the Heart of Dixie' she said
    'Oh, I didn't know bag pipes could play American tunes' - idiot!

    They can't play ANY tune!!!!!!!

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Graham on Sat Mar 16 11:53:21 2024
    On 2024-03-15 1:01 p.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-14 2:29 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    Long gone are the days of $2.99/lb "deals" on corned beef brisket; the
    going rate this year across all local markets was $4.99/lb.  I bought
    three of them this year; two are in the freezer.  I love corned beef
    brisket and this is the only time of year I can find it.  (Sorry, the
    canned stuff simply doesn't count as corned beef in my book and no,
    I'm not going to bother to "corn" a brisket.)  I also picked up a nice
    head of cabbage.

    I will likely cook it on Saturday.  I do it in the crock pot/slow
    cooker with the peppercorn spice packet in a minimal amount of water;
    I do add a couple of extra dried bay leaves.  Towards the end of
    cooking I cut the cabbage into wedges and cook it on top of the beef
    until it's just fork tender.

    I do not cook potatoes and carrots with this.  But I did buy some
    potatoes so I could make a pan of corned beef hash with some of the
    leftover brisket.

    Jill

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    I should have added that I will be wearing an orange shirt and
    orange socks.

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sat Mar 16 18:11:44 2024
    Ed P wrote:


    (Snip but on corned beef brisket)

    I've done it. Yes, it was good but cheaper/easier to buy it. I did
    it just to say I did it, like I just did. Twenty years later I got
    to brag about it! I also made pastrami.

    I do a lot of things like that. Just to see how it goes. I've had some
    flops but I almost always get something useful from the experiment. It
    may be a process or an ingredient.

    Take making Pho broth. It's expensive and tricky. The bases though
    are good things to have handy and just add water. One that I really
    like comes in a largish cube and makes a very nice addition to a bean
    pot and is made to flavor about 80ounces of water.

    I'd give you a name but other than 'pho' there's nothing understandable
    on the writing. There's also one in a tin but I haven't tried it yet.
    The cubes come in a small retangular cellophane package and there are 6 individually wrapped cubes in it.

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  • From William Price@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat Mar 16 14:28:20 2024
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-16, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/16/2024 5:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-15, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 5:49 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only >>>>>>> time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go >>>>>>> to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic
    ancestry and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled
    potatoes thing every year and it was probably my least favourite
    dinner of the year, followed by another other meal that involved
    cabbage.  I am not adverse to the corned beef part but I just can't do >>>>>> it that day with the expectation of all the other supposedly
    traditional Irish stuff.


    Including the ubiquitous banshee music.

    As if bagpipes are all that pleasant. LOL

    There are several different kinds of pipes. Northumbrian smallpipes
    can be quite pleasant. They sound kind of like an oboe on steroids.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSEn-SZzpM

    It takes a couple of minutes before the pipes come in. They're playing
    alongside a flute.

    True, but that's folk music. Not the screeling of full on bagpipes.

    Skreeling bagpipes _are_ folk music.


    I want bagpipes at my funeral, so I don’t have to listen to them.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to adavid.smith@sympatico.ca on Sun Mar 17 05:41:07 2024
    On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 11:08:21 -0400, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-03-16 11:02 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/16/2024 10:38 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

    I can see that leading to a slight difference. When I have had them
    there was the distinct taste of corn husk.

    It might dismay Bruce to know not everything involves corn! ;)

    Yeah well, he may be simply misinformed or he is being intentionally
    dense to maintain his persona. I don't know why anyone indulges him
    anymore. His act got tiresome years ago.

    One wonders what you are talking about and so do I.

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Sat Mar 16 18:41:35 2024
    jmcquown wrote:

    On 3/15/2024 7:48 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 3:58 PM, jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-14 2:29 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    Long gone are the days of $2.99/lb "deals" on corned beef
    brisket; the going rate this year across all local markets
    was $4.99/lb.  I bought three of them this year; two are in
    the freezer.  I love corned beef brisket and this is the
    only time of year I can find it. (Sorry, the canned stuff
    simply doesn't count as corned beef in my book and no, I'm
    not going to bother to "corn" a brisket.)  I also picked up
    a nice head of cabbage.

    I will likely cook it on Saturday.  I do it in the crock
    pot/slow cooker with the peppercorn spice packet in a
    minimal amount of water; I do add a couple of extra dried
    bay leaves.  Towards the end of cooking I cut the cabbage
    into wedges and cook it on top of the beef until it's just
    fork tender.

    I do not cook potatoes and carrots with this.  But I did buy
    some potatoes so I could make a pan of corned beef hash with
    some of the leftover brisket.

    Jill

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the
    only time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not
    inclined to go to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    Jill

    I've done it.  Yes, it was good but cheaper/easier to buy it.  I
    did it just to say I did it, like I just did.  Twenty years later
    I got to brag about it!  I also made pastrami.

    I made tamales from scratch once just to say I did it. Soaked the
    corn husks, slow simmered the pork roast with spices, shredded the
    meat, made the masa meal mixed with a bit of the spicy gravy, spread
    the masa dough on the soaked husks and added the shredded meat,
    rolled them up and steamed them. It was a long slow process. They
    were delicious! I'll never do it again. :)

    Jill

    That was me and Kalua smoked pork. (Kalua not Kailua) It was very good,
    just like I remembered it from Hawaii, but a lot of trouble. Don and I
    did the smoker method with pecan and mesquite mixed smoking wood on a
    small pork shoulder.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Sat Mar 16 14:46:30 2024
    On 3/16/2024 10:21 AM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:


    Yes, he did die far too young, Harry Chapin likewise :( That is a
    nice job of Barratts, the other Stan Rogers I love is Cape St. Mary's,
    though I confess there aren't any of his I dislike :)


    We met Harry Chapin some years ago (1979?). He was big on raising money
    for a charity that fed people and after concerts he would sell and
    autograph his books and T-shirts. The Valley Forge Music Fair was a
    smallish venue so my wife and I waited until the crowd died down.

    Standing in the lobby, we were talking to a woman that was there,
    evidently waiting too. Once the crowd was gone, she said to us "let me introduce you to my husband" and took us over to meet Harry. It was
    very cool at the time. My kids still have what we bought for them.

    https://whyhunger.org/who-we-are/history/

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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sat Mar 16 19:13:31 2024
    On 16/03/2024 18:46, Ed P wrote:
    On 3/16/2024 10:21 AM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:


    Yes, he did die far too young, Harry Chapin likewise :(    That is a
    nice job of Barratts, the other Stan Rogers I love is Cape St. Mary's,
    though I confess there aren't any of his I dislike :)


    We met Harry Chapin some years ago (1979?).  He was big on raising money
    for a charity that fed people and after concerts he would sell and
    autograph his books and T-shirts.  The Valley Forge Music Fair was a smallish venue so my wife and I waited until the crowd died down.

    Standing in the lobby, we were talking to a woman that was there,
    evidently waiting too.  Once the crowd was gone, she said to us "let me introduce you to my husband" and took us over to meet Harry.  It was
    very cool at the time.  My kids still have what we bought for them.

    https://whyhunger.org/who-we-are/history/
    His brother Tom did/does quite a bit of charity work, too. We used to
    take our kids to his concerts, and got to meet him.
    Good men, both of them.

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  • From lucretia@florence.it@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sat Mar 16 16:12:56 2024
    On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 14:46:30 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    On 3/16/2024 10:21 AM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:


    Yes, he did die far too young, Harry Chapin likewise :( That is a
    nice job of Barratts, the other Stan Rogers I love is Cape St. Mary's,
    though I confess there aren't any of his I dislike :)


    We met Harry Chapin some years ago (1979?). He was big on raising money
    for a charity that fed people and after concerts he would sell and
    autograph his books and T-shirts. The Valley Forge Music Fair was a
    smallish venue so my wife and I waited until the crowd died down.

    Standing in the lobby, we were talking to a woman that was there,
    evidently waiting too. Once the crowd was gone, she said to us "let me >introduce you to my husband" and took us over to meet Harry. It was
    very cool at the time. My kids still have what we bought for them.

    https://whyhunger.org/who-we-are/history/

    He was a totally nice person, came to NS one summer to play at a
    university festival. I got a matinee ticket (knew David didn't want
    to go lol) and when the moment came there were only five of us! He
    asked us if we minded if he still played and we said of course not lol
    Then about half way through he asked us if we minded if he let the
    students in as it looked like their classes had finished for the day,
    he was sorry, they hadn't paid, but did we mind. Really great
    personalised concert, just a few weeks before he was killed, so sad,
    gone far too early.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to S Viemeister on Sat Mar 16 13:31:56 2024
    On 2024-03-16 1:16 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 16/03/2024 17:53, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 1:01 p.m., Graham wrote:

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    I should have added that I will be wearing an orange shirt and
    orange socks.

    I'll be wearing blue.
    I have little tolerance for bigots, whether green or orange.

    I'm NOT bigoted. It's just my contrarian nature!
    Shouldn't we be wearing leeks in our lapels instead? After all,
    Patrick was a Welshman:-)

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  • From GM@21:1/5 to Graham on Sat Mar 16 19:45:36 2024
    Graham wrote:

    On 2024-03-16 1:16 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 16/03/2024 17:53, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 1:01 p.m., Graham wrote:

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    I should have added that I will be wearing an orange shirt and
    orange socks.

    I'll be wearing blue.
    I have little tolerance for bigots, whether green or orange.

    I'm NOT bigoted. It's just my contrarian nature!
    Shouldn't we be wearing leeks in our lapels instead? After all,
    Patrick was a Welshman:-)


    No poteen for you, then, Graham...!!!

    And leeks are full of bothersome sand in any case...!!!

    ;-P

    "What is Irish poteen?

    Poitín: An Irish Spirit:

    Poitín (in English, this is pronounced roughly as poteen or pocheen) can be described as Irish moonshine. A mostly rural product, it was made of potatoes, in some cases, and barley, in others. Poitín was produced on small pot stills, originally over
    peat fires..."

    --
    GM

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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to Graham on Sat Mar 16 19:16:33 2024
    On 16/03/2024 17:53, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 1:01 p.m., Graham wrote:

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    I should have added that I will be wearing an orange shirt and
    orange socks.

    I'll be wearing blue.
    I have little tolerance for bigots, whether green or orange.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Graham on Sat Mar 16 21:05:18 2024
    On 2024-03-16, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
    On 2024-03-16 7:05 a.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On 16 Mar 2024 12:58:12 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
    wrote:

    On 2024-03-16, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/16/2024 5:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-15, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 5:49 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only >>>>>>>>> time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go >>>>>>>>> to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.

    I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic >>>>>>>> ancestry and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled >>>>>>>> potatoes thing every year and it was probably my least favourite >>>>>>>> dinner of the year, followed by another other meal that involved >>>>>>>> cabbage.  I am not adverse to the corned beef part but I just can't do
    it that day with the expectation of all the other supposedly
    traditional Irish stuff.


    Including the ubiquitous banshee music.

    As if bagpipes are all that pleasant. LOL

    There are several different kinds of pipes. Northumbrian smallpipes >>>>> can be quite pleasant. They sound kind of like an oboe on steroids. >>>>>
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSEn-SZzpM

    It takes a couple of minutes before the pipes come in. They're playing >>>>> alongside a flute.

    True, but that's folk music. Not the screeling of full on bagpipes.

    Skreeling bagpipes _are_ folk music.

    In part, I had a laugh when my father piped in the haggis for Bobbie
    Burns Night at a mess in Tokyo. The American wife standing next to
    me was astounded when he played 'Deep in the Heart of Dixie' she said
    'Oh, I didn't know bag pipes could play American tunes' - idiot!

    They can't play ANY tune!!!!!!!

    Except Amazing Grace, of course. And Scotland the Brave. And dozens
    (or hundreds) of jigs, marches, reels, strathspeys, and hornpipes.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to S Viemeister on Sat Mar 16 21:07:01 2024
    On 2024-03-16, S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
    On 16/03/2024 17:53, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 1:01 p.m., Graham wrote:

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    I should have added that I will be wearing an orange shirt and
    orange socks.

    I'll be wearing blue.
    I have little tolerance for bigots, whether green or orange.

    I'll be wearing whatever's next in my closet. Black or gray pants,
    probably a white t-shirt, and a blue flannel shirt.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to S Viemeister on Sat Mar 16 18:02:33 2024
    On 2024-03-16 3:16 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 16/03/2024 17:53, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 1:01 p.m., Graham wrote:

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    I should have added that I will be wearing an orange shirt and
    orange socks.

    I'll be wearing blue.
    I have little tolerance for bigots, whether green or orange.


    It's curious how the Catholic and Protestant Irish carry on about
    incidents that happened years ago. The Catholics are hung up by
    slaughters committed in during the 17th century when the Protestant slaughtered large numbers of Catholics basically in retaliation for
    atrocities committed by Catholics against the Irish. Meanwhile the
    English have seen the Irish rise up against them numerous times while
    England was busy dealing with other conflicts. There were too many
    incidents where the English were dealing with one serious threat and the
    Irish rose up and stabbed them in the back.

    Back in the early 70s I attended a presentation by the head of Sinn
    Fein, the provisional wing of the IRA. If I had not heart the claim with
    my own ears I would not have believed it. This guy claimed that the
    British army for the poverty of the Catholics saying that they forced
    poor Catholics to have large families. He did not explain the mechanics
    of that but I guess I was naive enough to think that the Pope and the RC
    church and their stand on birth control probably had more to do with
    that than the British army.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat Mar 16 16:22:09 2024
    On 2024-03-16 4:02 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:

    It's curious how the Catholic and Protestant Irish carry on about
    incidents that happened years ago. The Catholics are hung up by
    slaughters committed in during the  17th century when the Protestant slaughtered  large numbers of Catholics basically in retaliation for atrocities committed by Catholics against the Irish. Meanwhile the
    English have seen the Irish rise up against them numerous times while
    England was busy dealing with other conflicts. There were too many
    incidents where the English were dealing with one serious threat and the Irish rose up and stabbed them in the back.

    Back in the early 70s I attended a presentation by the head of Sinn
    Fein, the provisional wing of the IRA. If I had not heart the claim with
    my own ears I would not have believed it. This guy claimed that the
    British army for the poverty of the Catholics saying that they forced
    poor Catholics to have large families. He did not explain the mechanics
    of that but I guess I was naive enough to think that the Pope and the RC church and their stand on birth control probably had more to do with
    that than the British army.

    Religion! Always fucking religion! The curse of humanity!

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to adavid.smith@sympatico.ca on Sun Mar 17 09:30:25 2024
    On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 18:02:33 -0400, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-03-16 3:16 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 16/03/2024 17:53, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 1:01 p.m., Graham wrote:

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    I should have added that I will be wearing an orange shirt and
    orange socks.

    I'll be wearing blue.
    I have little tolerance for bigots, whether green or orange.

    It's curious how the Catholic and Protestant Irish carry on about
    incidents that happened years ago.

    I saw a documentary about the Troubles. They interviewed people from
    both sides who were heavily involved at the time, sometimes to the
    point of doing jail time. Most of them were ashamed of their own
    ruthless sectarian behaviour and had done a complete 180. Some even
    went to schools to tell kids what insanity it all was and to warn them
    never to become like that.

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Graham on Sat Mar 16 18:57:58 2024
    On 3/16/2024 6:22 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-16 4:02 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:

    It's curious how the Catholic and Protestant Irish carry on about
    incidents that happened years ago.

    (snipped)

    Religion! Always fucking religion! The curse of humanity!

    Calm down, please. None of that nonsense has anything to do with why
    some people like corned beef and cabbage.

    I don't give a rip about Easter, either, but the so-called religious
    holiday won't stop me from cooking braised lamb shanks that weekend.
    It's close to the Spring equinox. :)

    Jill

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  • From GM@21:1/5 to Graham on Sat Mar 16 23:04:29 2024
    Graham wrote:


    Religion! Always fucking religion! The curse of humanity!

    Now, Graham, our Western Civilisation is *built* on the Judeo - Christian tradition...!!!

    ;-P

    --
    GM

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  • From lucretia@florence.it@21:1/5 to firstname@lastname.oc.ku on Sat Mar 16 21:36:09 2024
    On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 19:13:31 +0000, S Viemeister
    <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:

    On 16/03/2024 18:46, Ed P wrote:
    On 3/16/2024 10:21 AM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:


    Yes, he did die far too young, Harry Chapin likewise :( That is a
    nice job of Barratts, the other Stan Rogers I love is Cape St. Mary's,
    though I confess there aren't any of his I dislike :)


    We met Harry Chapin some years ago (1979?). He was big on raising money
    for a charity that fed people and after concerts he would sell and
    autograph his books and T-shirts. The Valley Forge Music Fair was a
    smallish venue so my wife and I waited until the crowd died down.

    Standing in the lobby, we were talking to a woman that was there,
    evidently waiting too. Once the crowd was gone, she said to us "let me
    introduce you to my husband" and took us over to meet Harry. It was
    very cool at the time. My kids still have what we bought for them.

    https://whyhunger.org/who-we-are/history/
    His brother Tom did/does quite a bit of charity work, too. We used to
    take our kids to his concerts, and got to meet him.
    Good men, both of them.

    Agreed -

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  • From lucretia@florence.it@21:1/5 to Graham on Sat Mar 16 21:57:15 2024
    On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 16:22:09 -0600, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-03-16 4:02 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:

    It's curious how the Catholic and Protestant Irish carry on about
    incidents that happened years ago. The Catholics are hung up by
    slaughters committed in during the 17th century when the Protestant
    slaughtered large numbers of Catholics basically in retaliation for
    atrocities committed by Catholics against the Irish. Meanwhile the
    English have seen the Irish rise up against them numerous times while
    England was busy dealing with other conflicts. There were too many
    incidents where the English were dealing with one serious threat and the
    Irish rose up and stabbed them in the back.

    Back in the early 70s I attended a presentation by the head of Sinn
    Fein, the provisional wing of the IRA. If I had not heart the claim with
    my own ears I would not have believed it. This guy claimed that the
    British army for the poverty of the Catholics saying that they forced
    poor Catholics to have large families. He did not explain the mechanics
    of that but I guess I was naive enough to think that the Pope and the RC
    church and their stand on birth control probably had more to do with
    that than the British army.

    Religion! Always fucking religion! The curse of humanity!

    Too fucking right!!!

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 16 20:12:24 2024
    GM wrote:
    Graham wrote:


    Religion! Always fucking religion! The curse of humanity!

    Now, Graham, our Western Civilisation is *built* on the Judeo - Christian tradition...!!!

    ;-P


    And the christian holy book says homosexuals should be put to death.

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  • From lucretia@florence.it@21:1/5 to gregorymorrow@msn.com on Sat Mar 16 21:59:35 2024
    On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 23:04:29 +0000, gregorymorrow@msn.com (GM) wrote:

    Graham wrote:


    Religion! Always fucking religion! The curse of humanity!

    Now, Graham, our Western Civilisation is *built* on the Judeo - Christian tradition...!!!

    ;-P

    'You make his point!!

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Sat Mar 16 20:39:34 2024
    lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 19:13:31 +0000, S Viemeister
    <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:

    On 16/03/2024 18:46, Ed P wrote:
    On 3/16/2024 10:21 AM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:


    Yes, he did die far too young, Harry Chapin likewise :( That is a
    nice job of Barratts, the other Stan Rogers I love is Cape St. Mary's, >>>> though I confess there aren't any of his I dislike :)


    We met Harry Chapin some years ago (1979?). He was big on raising money >>> for a charity that fed people and after concerts he would sell and
    autograph his books and T-shirts. The Valley Forge Music Fair was a
    smallish venue so my wife and I waited until the crowd died down.

    Standing in the lobby, we were talking to a woman that was there,
    evidently waiting too. Once the crowd was gone, she said to us "let me
    introduce you to my husband" and took us over to meet Harry. It was
    very cool at the time. My kids still have what we bought for them.

    https://whyhunger.org/who-we-are/history/
    His brother Tom did/does quite a bit of charity work, too. We used to
    take our kids to his concerts, and got to meet him.
    Good men, both of them.

    Agreed -


    Thanks. I didn't realize harry chapin had died. "TAXI" is gone.

    Not too long ago, there was a retired taxi driver that posted here, Until
    her royal majesty banned him. Sort of a bum, like in Chapin's song. I think
    his name was joseph thomas, or something.

    Too bad he wasn't respectable enough for her majesty.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 17 13:22:48 2024
    On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 20:39:34 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 19:13:31 +0000, S Viemeister
    <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:

    https://whyhunger.org/who-we-are/history/
    His brother Tom did/does quite a bit of charity work, too. We used to
    take our kids to his concerts, and got to meet him.
    Good men, both of them.

    Agreed -


    Thanks. I didn't realize harry chapin had died. "TAXI" is gone.

    Not too long ago, there was a retired taxi driver that posted here, Until
    her royal majesty banned him. Sort of a bum, like in Chapin's song. I think >his name was joseph thomas, or something.

    Too bad he wasn't respectable enough for her majesty.

    Towards the end, he said he was about to leave because he wasn't
    getting many replies here. His posts were very long and often had
    little to do with the posts he was replying to.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Sun Mar 17 09:11:25 2024
    On 2024-03-17, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 19:13:31 +0000, S Viemeister
    <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:

    On 16/03/2024 18:46, Ed P wrote:
    On 3/16/2024 10:21 AM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:


    Yes, he did die far too young, Harry Chapin likewise :(    That is a >>>>> nice job of Barratts, the other Stan Rogers I love is Cape St. Mary's, >>>>> though I confess there aren't any of his I dislike :)


    We met Harry Chapin some years ago (1979?).  He was big on raising money >>>> for a charity that fed people and after concerts he would sell and
    autograph his books and T-shirts.  The Valley Forge Music Fair was a
    smallish venue so my wife and I waited until the crowd died down.

    Standing in the lobby, we were talking to a woman that was there,
    evidently waiting too.  Once the crowd was gone, she said to us "let me >>>> introduce you to my husband" and took us over to meet Harry.  It was
    very cool at the time.  My kids still have what we bought for them.

    https://whyhunger.org/who-we-are/history/
    His brother Tom did/does quite a bit of charity work, too. We used to
    take our kids to his concerts, and got to meet him.
    Good men, both of them.

    Agreed -


    Thanks. I didn't realize harry chapin had died. "TAXI" is gone.

    Not too long ago, there was a retired taxi driver that posted here, Until
    her royal majesty banned him. Sort of a bum, like in Chapin's song. I think his name was joseph thomas, or something.

    Too bad he wasn't respectable enough for her majesty.

    "Retired taxi driver and kook".

    Fixed it for you.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From lucretia@florence.it@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 17 09:28:21 2024
    On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 20:12:24 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    GM wrote:
    Graham wrote:


    Religion! Always fucking religion! The curse of humanity!

    Now, Graham, our Western Civilisation is *built* on the Judeo - Christian
    tradition...!!!

    ;-P


    And the christian holy book says homosexuals should be put to death.

    Do they have a good reason for that??

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sun Mar 17 08:32:21 2024
    On 3/17/2024 5:11 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-17, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 19:13:31 +0000, S Viemeister
    <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:

    On 16/03/2024 18:46, Ed P wrote:
    On 3/16/2024 10:21 AM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:


    Yes, he did die far too young, Harry Chapin likewise :(    That is a >>>>>> nice job of Barratts, the other Stan Rogers I love is Cape St. Mary's, >>>>>> though I confess there aren't any of his I dislike :)


    We met Harry Chapin some years ago (1979?).  He was big on raising money >>>>> for a charity that fed people and after concerts he would sell and
    autograph his books and T-shirts.  The Valley Forge Music Fair was a >>>>> smallish venue so my wife and I waited until the crowd died down.

    Standing in the lobby, we were talking to a woman that was there,
    evidently waiting too.  Once the crowd was gone, she said to us "let me >>>>> introduce you to my husband" and took us over to meet Harry.  It was >>>>> very cool at the time.  My kids still have what we bought for them. >>>>>
    https://whyhunger.org/who-we-are/history/
    His brother Tom did/does quite a bit of charity work, too. We used to
    take our kids to his concerts, and got to meet him.
    Good men, both of them.

    Agreed -


    Thanks. I didn't realize harry chapin had died. "TAXI" is gone.

    Not too long ago, there was a retired taxi driver that posted here, Until
    her royal majesty banned him. Sort of a bum, like in Chapin's song. I think >> his name was joseph thomas, or something.

    Too bad he wasn't respectable enough for her majesty.

    "Retired taxi driver and kook".

    Fixed it for you.

    LOL Cindy! How can anyone "ban" someone on an unmoderated Usenet group?
    Is Hank blethering about the guy who bragged about the number of
    traffic tickets and/or accidents he'd had? The last I recall he was
    whining about no one replying to his rambling, incoherent posts.
    Methinks he wandered off because he wasn't getting enough attention.

    OB Food: an omelette with brie

    Jill

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Sun Mar 17 10:14:35 2024
    On 2024-03-17 8:28 a.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 20:12:24 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>


    And the christian holy book says homosexuals should be put to death.

    Do they have a good reason for that??

    I guess it is to be consistent with all the other human behaviours that
    zealots think should be punished by death.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Sun Mar 17 10:21:54 2024
    On 2024-03-17 8:32 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/17/2024 5:11 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-17, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:


    Too bad he wasn't respectable enough for her majesty.

    "Retired taxi driver and kook".

    Fixed it for you.

    LOL Cindy!  How can anyone "ban" someone on an unmoderated Usenet group?

    That would be a trick.

     Is Hank blethering about the guy who bragged about the number of
    traffic tickets and/or accidents he'd had?  The last I recall he was
    whining about no one replying to his rambling, incoherent posts.
    Methinks he wandered off because he wasn't getting enough attention.

    I suspect that is the case. I had no use for the guy and filtered him
    shortly after his arrival here. Unlike some of the trolls here that some
    people feel compelled to reply to, I was not seeing many of his posts
    quoted in replies. It seems to have been one of the more successful
    cases of ignoring trolls long enough for them to be disappointed by
    their lack of trolling success and getting bored enough to move on.








    OB Food:  an omelette with brie

    Jill

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sun Mar 17 11:09:41 2024
    On 3/17/2024 10:21 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
    I suspect that is the case. I had no use for the guy and filtered him
    shortly after his arrival here. Unlike some of the trolls here that some people feel compelled to reply to, I was not seeing many of his posts
    quoted in replies. It seems to have been one of the more successful
    cases of ignoring trolls long enough for them to be disappointed by
    their lack of trolling success and getting bored enough to move on.


    Exactly right. He didn't get the attention he wanted so he left. He
    wasn't a very good troll.

    Jill

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  • From GM@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Sun Mar 17 15:18:43 2024
    lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 23:04:29 +0000, gregorymorrow@msn.com (GM) wrote:

    Graham wrote:


    Religion! Always fucking religion! The curse of humanity!

    Now, Graham, our Western Civilisation is *built* on the Judeo - Christian tradition...!!!

    ;-P

    'You make his point!!


    So, then, Lucrezia, I guess Graham owes me a "royalty" or a "commission' - right...!!!???

    Graham can give me all that valuable stock he owns in Canadian uranium mines and Hydro-Québec...

    ;-D

    --
    GM

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sun Mar 17 11:17:37 2024
    On 3/17/2024 10:14 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-17 8:28 a.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 20:12:24 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>


    And the christian holy book says homosexuals should be put to death.

    Do they have a good reason for that??

    I guess it is to be consistent with all the other human behaviours that zealots think should be punished by death.

    According to whatever religious fanatical interpretation, women who
    commit adultery should be pelted with rocks until they are dead. It's
    okay for the man to cat around, as long as he's not married to them. In
    some religous cultures young females have their clitoris removed so they
    cannot experience sexual pleasure. That's for the man to have, not the
    woman. What kind of bullshit religous crap is this?!

    Jill

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  • From GM@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Sun Mar 17 15:53:19 2024
    Hank Rogers wrote:

    GM wrote:
    Graham wrote:


    Religion! Always fucking religion! The curse of humanity!

    Now, Graham, our Western Civilisation is *built* on the Judeo - Christian
    tradition...!!!

    ;-P


    And the christian holy book says homosexuals should be put to death


    Sire Hank, as one has most very sincerely taken Our Lord into my heart - as I have so very, Very, VERY humbly done! - I can assure you that he forgives us our sins and imperfections, as long as we promise to "do better"...

    --
    GM

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sun Mar 17 18:21:01 2024
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2024-03-15, cshenk <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
    ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    jmcquown wrote:

    Long gone are the days of $2.99/lb "deals" on corned beef
    brisket; >> > the going rate this year across all local markets was $4.99/lb. I >> > bought three of them this year; two are in the
    freezer. I love >> > corned beef brisket and this is the only time
    of year I can find >> > it. (Sorry, the canned stuff simply doesn't
    count as corned beef >> > in my book and no, I'm not going to bother
    to "corn" a brisket.) >> > I also picked up a nice head of cabbage.

    I will likely cook it on Saturday. I do it in the crock pot/slow
    cooker with the peppercorn spice packet in a minimal amount of
    water; I do add a couple of extra dried bay leaves. Towards the
    end of cooking I cut the cabbage into wedges and cook it on top
    of >> > the beef until it's just fork tender.

    I do not cook potatoes and carrots with this. But I did buy some
    potatoes so I could make a pan of corned beef hash with some of
    the >> > leftover brisket.

    Jill


    I'm a bit surprised I didn't see any corned beef briskets in this
    weeks Kroger ad. But they do have cabbage 'on sale' for 49¢ per
    pound and it's on my list for Friday's shopping.

    Not really good sales on the corned beef here either. Cabbage
    though is 25cents/lb. Nothing really exciting this week.

    $3.99/lb here. Cabbage, however, isn't on sale at my grocery
    store. $0.69/lb.

    We skipped it this year. Don's 'ok' with it but doesn't want it more
    than once a year and hold the cabbage. I make the braising broth for
    him then he takes over. it doesn't really have a name and it's not
    'authentic' at all what folks expect for the basically Scottish dish or
    USA dish. It's more like a filipeno adobo stew or pot roast with an
    adobo approach.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Sun Mar 17 14:06:25 2024
    lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 20:12:24 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    GM wrote:
    Graham wrote:


    Religion! Always fucking religion! The curse of humanity!

    Now, Graham, our Western Civilisation is *built* on the Judeo - Christian >>> tradition...!!!

    ;-P


    And the christian holy book says homosexuals should be put to death.

    Do they have a good reason for that??


    Not that I can tell. I just figured it was due to being a death centered religion.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 18 06:16:22 2024
    On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 08:32:21 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
    wrote:

    On 3/17/2024 5:11 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-17, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 19:13:31 +0000, S Viemeister
    <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:

    On 16/03/2024 18:46, Ed P wrote:
    On 3/16/2024 10:21 AM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:


    Yes, he did die far too young, Harry Chapin likewise :(    That is a >>>>>>> nice job of Barratts, the other Stan Rogers I love is Cape St. Mary's, >>>>>>> though I confess there aren't any of his I dislike :)


    We met Harry Chapin some years ago (1979?).  He was big on raising money
    for a charity that fed people and after concerts he would sell and >>>>>> autograph his books and T-shirts.  The Valley Forge Music Fair was a >>>>>> smallish venue so my wife and I waited until the crowd died down.

    Standing in the lobby, we were talking to a woman that was there,
    evidently waiting too.  Once the crowd was gone, she said to us "let me >>>>>> introduce you to my husband" and took us over to meet Harry.  It was >>>>>> very cool at the time.  My kids still have what we bought for them. >>>>>>
    https://whyhunger.org/who-we-are/history/
    His brother Tom did/does quite a bit of charity work, too. We used to >>>>> take our kids to his concerts, and got to meet him.
    Good men, both of them.

    Agreed -


    Thanks. I didn't realize harry chapin had died. "TAXI" is gone.

    Not too long ago, there was a retired taxi driver that posted here, Until >>> her royal majesty banned him. Sort of a bum, like in Chapin's song. I think >>> his name was joseph thomas, or something.

    Too bad he wasn't respectable enough for her majesty.

    "Retired taxi driver and kook".

    Fixed it for you.

    LOL Cindy! How can anyone "ban" someone on an unmoderated Usenet group?
    Is Hank blethering about the guy who bragged about the number of
    traffic tickets and/or accidents he'd had? The last I recall he was
    whining about no one replying to his rambling, incoherent posts.
    Methinks he wandered off because he wasn't getting enough attention.

    That was my impression too. Not that I minded him. I always read the
    first two sentences of his posts, not the other 100. He'd often go off
    on a tangent.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to adavid.smith@sympatico.ca on Mon Mar 18 06:37:24 2024
    On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 10:21:54 -0400, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-03-17 8:32 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/17/2024 5:11 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-17, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:

    Too bad he wasn't respectable enough for her majesty.

    "Retired taxi driver and kook".

    Fixed it for you.

    LOL Cindy!  How can anyone "ban" someone on an unmoderated Usenet group?

    That would be a trick.

    You could constantly repeat that someone's a troll. When a rare new
    person comes in, you can quickly pull them aside and telll them they
    shouldn't talk to so and so because that's a troll. You know, the kind
    of stuff Jill's already doing.

     Is Hank blethering about the guy who bragged about the number of
    traffic tickets and/or accidents he'd had?  The last I recall he was
    whining about no one replying to his rambling, incoherent posts.
    Methinks he wandered off because he wasn't getting enough attention.

    I suspect that is the case. I had no use for the guy and filtered him
    shortly after his arrival here.

    Let's hear it for Dave Smith!

    Unlike some of the trolls here that some
    people feel compelled to reply to, I was not seeing many of his posts
    quoted in replies.

    He wasn't a troll. A bit of a kook yes, but not a troll.

    It seems to have been one of the more successful
    cases of ignoring trolls long enough for them to be disappointed by
    their lack of trolling success and getting bored enough to move on.

    I'd exchange him for you, given the option.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Sun Mar 17 20:01:41 2024
    On 2024-03-17, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 20:12:24 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    GM wrote:
    Graham wrote:


    Religion! Always fucking religion! The curse of humanity!

    Now, Graham, our Western Civilisation is *built* on the Judeo - Christian >>>> tradition...!!!

    ;-P


    And the christian holy book says homosexuals should be put to death.

    Do they have a good reason for that??


    Not that I can tell. I just figured it was due to being a death centered religion.

    Because homosexuals can't make new members for the religion.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Sun Mar 17 16:11:33 2024
    On 2024-03-17 4:06 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2024-03-16, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    I don't give a rip about Easter, either, but the so-called religious
    holiday won't stop me from cooking braised lamb shanks that weekend.
    It's close to the Spring equinox. :)


    Ham and potato salad here for Easter. I forget why, but it's a
    tradition and the only time of the year where I buy a bone-in ham.



    We are doing Porterhouse steak. I will get the tenderloin and my wife
    will get the strip. It works for both of us. Some sort of potato and a
    salad with blue cheese dressing.

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Sun Mar 17 20:06:02 2024
    On 2024-03-16, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    I don't give a rip about Easter, either, but the so-called religious
    holiday won't stop me from cooking braised lamb shanks that weekend.
    It's close to the Spring equinox. :)


    Ham and potato salad here for Easter. I forget why, but it's a
    tradition and the only time of the year where I buy a bone-in ham.

    leo

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Sun Mar 17 21:05:14 2024
    On 2024-03-17, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    On 2024-03-16, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    I don't give a rip about Easter, either, but the so-called religious
    holiday won't stop me from cooking braised lamb shanks that weekend.
    It's close to the Spring equinox. :)


    Ham and potato salad here for Easter. I forget why, but it's a
    tradition and the only time of the year where I buy a bone-in ham.

    Ham lasts from fall slaughter until spring.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sun Mar 17 21:07:22 2024
    On 2024-03-17, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2024-03-17 4:06 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2024-03-16, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    I don't give a rip about Easter, either, but the so-called religious
    holiday won't stop me from cooking braised lamb shanks that weekend.
    It's close to the Spring equinox. :)


    Ham and potato salad here for Easter. I forget why, but it's a
    tradition and the only time of the year where I buy a bone-in ham.



    We are doing Porterhouse steak. I will get the tenderloin and my wife
    will get the strip. It works for both of us. Some sort of potato and a
    salad with blue cheese dressing.

    Easter is two weeks away (or 6-7 if you're Orthodox). I don't plan that
    far ahead.

    I bet it will be salad with grilled chicken on it, though. We had a short-lived tradition of going out for sushi on Easter, but we haven't
    done that in a long time. Easter eel.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From lucretia@florence.it@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 17 18:42:08 2024
    On 17 Mar 2024 20:01:41 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
    wrote:

    On 2024-03-17, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 20:12:24 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    GM wrote:
    Graham wrote:


    Religion! Always fucking religion! The curse of humanity!

    Now, Graham, our Western Civilisation is *built* on the Judeo - Christian >>>>> tradition...!!!

    ;-P


    And the christian holy book says homosexuals should be put to death.

    Do they have a good reason for that??


    Not that I can tell. I just figured it was due to being a death centered
    religion.

    Because homosexuals can't make new members for the religion.

    Of course! Should have realised that!

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sun Mar 17 16:48:48 2024
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-17, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 20:12:24 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    GM wrote:
    Graham wrote:


    Religion! Always fucking religion! The curse of humanity!

    Now, Graham, our Western Civilisation is *built* on the Judeo - Christian >>>>> tradition...!!!

    ;-P


    And the christian holy book says homosexuals should be put to death.

    Do they have a good reason for that??


    Not that I can tell. I just figured it was due to being a death centered
    religion.

    Because homosexuals can't make new members for the religion.


    Good point. And it applies to all the abrahamic cults.

    Probably also why catholics hate abortion and contraceptives.

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Mon Mar 18 04:11:33 2024
    On 2024-03-17, Dave Smith wrote:

    It seems to have been one of the more successful cases of ignoring
    trolls long enough for them to be disappointed by their lack of
    trolling success and getting bored enough to move on.

    I find it more likely that he cannot afford a computer
    as his state-provided cell phone does not do NNTP access.

    Plus perhaps he does not have the tech ability to install
    Thunderbird. I suppose he could ask JK or BB or the Hawaiian
    if they are still posting in the Google universe.

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Mon Mar 18 03:59:23 2024
    On 2024-03-17, jmcquown wrote:

    On 3/17/2024 5:11 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    "Retired taxi driver and kook".

    Fixed it for you.

    LOL Cindy!

    I email him occasionally. I am on his 'sick joke' mailing list.

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Mon Mar 18 04:34:22 2024
    On 2024-03-17, Hank Rogers wrote:

    And the christian holy book says homosexuals should be put to death.

    Hank! How many times do I have to explain it to you?

    Originally. it was in the old Jewish book. (The first 5
    science-fiction chapters of the 'Old Testament').

    Then Christ lived and died. Hundreds of stories were
    written about him over centuries and eventually a comittee
    decided which ones to make the official 'New Testament'.

    Also, Mohammed was born a few centuries later and people
    followed him around writing everything he said, which
    became 'word of God' when he said it, maybe like Trump
    when he imagined re-classifying document security ratings.

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to Bruce on Mon Mar 18 04:23:05 2024
    On 2024-03-17, Bruce wrote:

    I'd exchange him for you, given the option.

    Send him a email about the other web NNTP portal.

    Unlike you, Thomas Joseph (and me & Dave Smith)
    have the balls to use our complete real names
    and a working email address in the NNTP headers.

    You can look up TJs address in his old posts.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Mon Mar 18 06:05:50 2024
    Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:
    On 2024-03-17, Hank Rogers wrote:

    And the christian holy book says homosexuals should be put to death.

    Hank! How many times do I have to explain it to you?

    Originally. it was in the old Jewish book. (The first 5
    science-fiction chapters of the 'Old Testament').

    Then Christ lived and died. Hundreds of stories were
    written about him over centuries and eventually a comittee
    decided which ones to make the official 'New Testament'.

    Also, Mohammed was born a few centuries later and people
    followed him around writing everything he said, which
    became 'word of God' when he said it, maybe like Trump
    when he imagined re-classifying document security ratings.



    Yes, I should have said “ The abrahamic holy books “.

    They’re all equally nasty pieces of shit.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Bruce on Mon Mar 18 06:16:44 2024
    Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 10:21:54 -0400, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-03-17 8:32 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/17/2024 5:11 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-17, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:

    Too bad he wasn't respectable enough for her majesty.

    "Retired taxi driver and kook".

    Fixed it for you.

    LOL Cindy!  How can anyone "ban" someone on an unmoderated Usenet group? >>
    That would be a trick.

    You could constantly repeat that someone's a troll. When a rare new
    person comes in, you can quickly pull them aside and telll them they shouldn't talk to so and so because that's a troll. You know, the kind
    of stuff Jill's already doing.

     Is Hank blethering about the guy who bragged about the number of
    traffic tickets and/or accidents he'd had?  The last I recall he was
    whining about no one replying to his rambling, incoherent posts.
    Methinks he wandered off because he wasn't getting enough attention.

    I suspect that is the case. I had no use for the guy and filtered him
    shortly after his arrival here.

    Let's hear it for Dave Smith!

    Unlike some of the trolls here that some
    people feel compelled to reply to, I was not seeing many of his posts
    quoted in replies.

    He wasn't a troll. A bit of a kook yes, but not a troll.

    It seems to have been one of the more successful
    cases of ignoring trolls long enough for them to be disappointed by
    their lack of trolling success and getting bored enough to move on.

    I'd exchange him for you, given the option.


    So would I. Of course I’d miss the big niece stories, but they’re rare these days.

    The good thing is you could then change your name to dave smith.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Mon Mar 18 18:29:06 2024
    On 18 Mar 2024 06:16:44 GMT, Hank Rogers <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:

    Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    I'd exchange him for you, given the option.

    So would I. Of course I’d miss the big niece stories, but they’re rare >these days.

    The good thing is you could then change your name to dave smith.

    I've had professional help to overcome that urge.

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Mon Mar 18 08:36:15 2024
    lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 20:12:24 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:
    GM wrote:
    Graham wrote:


    Religion! Always fucking religion! The curse of humanity!

    Now, Graham, our Western Civilisation is *built* on the Judeo - Christian >>> tradition...!!!

    ;-P


    And the christian holy book says homosexuals should be put to death.

    Do they have a good reason for that??

    they used to when it was critical for every tribal member
    (puns galore this morning) to be completely engaged in
    defense. or to put it more bluntly, if you weren't making
    enough babies you didn't have enough soldiers. for nomadic
    tribes always conflicting about turf to graze their animals
    (and now a lot of their ground cover is gone and they're
    grazing on rocks and barely fertile alkaline subsoils) every
    sperm is sacred.


    songbird

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Mon Mar 18 08:40:58 2024
    jmcquown wrote:
    ...
    cannot experience sexual pleasure. That's for the man to have, not the woman. What kind of bullshit religous crap is this?!

    absolutely pure BS. but like i said in my other post
    on this, it's a hold-over from other times when having
    every male able to fight and pumping out more males to
    fight was critical for cultural (tribal) survival.


    songbird

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Mon Mar 18 08:44:34 2024
    Hank Rogers wrote:
    ...
    They’re all equally nasty pieces of shit.

    some parts are correct, but the rest of them do need
    some editing these days. like saying up front that they
    are myths and stories of which some parts may be accurate
    but literal interpretation is really pointless.

    when you get a literal reading gone too far it all
    becomes a pile of contradictions. sure, call it faith
    if you want to believe it, but then don't try to pull
    arguments out of that pile of goop because you can
    prove about anything you want from it.


    songbird

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to songbird on Mon Mar 18 09:01:11 2024
    On 2024-03-18 8:36 a.m., songbird wrote:

    they used to when it was critical for every tribal member
    (puns galore this morning) to be completely engaged in
    defense. or to put it more bluntly, if you weren't making
    enough babies you didn't have enough soldiers. for nomadic
    tribes always conflicting about turf to graze their animals
    (and now a lot of their ground cover is gone and they're
    grazing on rocks and barely fertile alkaline subsoils) every
    sperm is sacred.


    It's pretty sad that we are facing so many problems in the world that
    are directly or indirectly related to over population and there are
    still people having huge families. It is especially bad in some of the
    most desolate countries. It really gets me to see coverage of famine
    relief in arid African countries and seeing families with a dozen kids
    and they are all starving.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Mon Mar 18 13:06:40 2024
    On 2024-03-18, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2024-03-18 8:36 a.m., songbird wrote:

    they used to when it was critical for every tribal member
    (puns galore this morning) to be completely engaged in
    defense. or to put it more bluntly, if you weren't making
    enough babies you didn't have enough soldiers. for nomadic
    tribes always conflicting about turf to graze their animals
    (and now a lot of their ground cover is gone and they're
    grazing on rocks and barely fertile alkaline subsoils) every
    sperm is sacred.


    It's pretty sad that we are facing so many problems in the world that
    are directly or indirectly related to over population and there are
    still people having huge families. It is especially bad in some of the
    most desolate countries. It really gets me to see coverage of famine
    relief in arid African countries and seeing families with a dozen kids
    and they are all starving.

    They don't have access to birth control. If the woman tried to
    say, "No, let's not have any more children", her man would likely
    beat and rape her anyway.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Mon Mar 18 14:38:58 2024
    On 2024-03-18, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    If the woman tried to say, "No, let's not have
    any more children", her man would likely
    beat and rape her anyway.

    Some men will beat & rape even if she says "Well, Okay".

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Mon Mar 18 17:00:10 2024
    On 2024-03-18, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2024-03-18 9:06 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-18, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2024-03-18 8:36 a.m., songbird wrote:

    they used to when it was critical for every tribal member
    (puns galore this morning) to be completely engaged in
    defense. or to put it more bluntly, if you weren't making
    enough babies you didn't have enough soldiers. for nomadic
    tribes always conflicting about turf to graze their animals
    (and now a lot of their ground cover is gone and they're
    grazing on rocks and barely fertile alkaline subsoils) every
    sperm is sacred.


    It's pretty sad that we are facing so many problems in the world that
    are directly or indirectly related to over population and there are
    still people having huge families. It is especially bad in some of the
    most desolate countries. It really gets me to see coverage of famine
    relief in arid African countries and seeing families with a dozen kids
    and they are all starving.

    They don't have access to birth control. If the woman tried to
    say, "No, let's not have any more children", her man would likely
    beat and rape her anyway.


    Because they are Muslim and/or African?

    Because quite a lot of men have been socialized to consider women
    their property. Not just in Africa. Not just Muslims.

    Your bigotry is showing, Dave.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Mon Mar 18 12:35:17 2024
    On 2024-03-18 9:06 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-18, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2024-03-18 8:36 a.m., songbird wrote:

    they used to when it was critical for every tribal member
    (puns galore this morning) to be completely engaged in
    defense. or to put it more bluntly, if you weren't making
    enough babies you didn't have enough soldiers. for nomadic
    tribes always conflicting about turf to graze their animals
    (and now a lot of their ground cover is gone and they're
    grazing on rocks and barely fertile alkaline subsoils) every
    sperm is sacred.


    It's pretty sad that we are facing so many problems in the world that
    are directly or indirectly related to over population and there are
    still people having huge families. It is especially bad in some of the
    most desolate countries. It really gets me to see coverage of famine
    relief in arid African countries and seeing families with a dozen kids
    and they are all starving.

    They don't have access to birth control. If the woman tried to
    say, "No, let's not have any more children", her man would likely
    beat and rape her anyway.


    Because they are Muslim and/or African?

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Wed Mar 20 09:33:58 2024
    On 3/14/2024 1:29 PM, jmcquown wrote:
    Long gone are the days of $2.99/lb "deals" on corned beef brisket; the
    going rate this year across all local markets was $4.99/lb.  I bought
    three of them this year; two are in the freezer.  I love corned beef
    brisket and this is the only time of year I can find it.  (Sorry, the
    canned stuff simply doesn't count as corned beef in my book and no, I'm
    not going to bother to "corn" a brisket.)  I also picked up a nice head
    of cabbage.

    I will likely cook it on Saturday.  I do it in the crock pot/slow cooker with the peppercorn spice packet in a minimal amount of water; I do add
    a couple of extra dried bay leaves.  Towards the end of cooking I cut
    the cabbage into wedges and cook it on top of the beef until it's just
    fork tender.

    I do not cook potatoes and carrots with this.  But I did buy some
    potatoes so I could make a pan of corned beef hash with some of the
    leftover brisket.

    Jill

    I love corned beef, not the lunchmeat though. The stuff in the cans is
    only good for making breakfasts with eggs once in a long while and you
    have to really cook it down a lot so it's deep red or it smells and I
    assume tastes like dog food.

    $4.99 at Costco as well, though I can usually find it year round I
    forget about it much after the day.

    I cook the cabbage separately right before serving as I don't care for
    eating the slime that comes out of guessing at, and don't have room to
    put it in the crock-pot too. I just dumped some of the cooking water
    from the crock-pot into the pan for flavor and boiled for 7 minutes.
    Both kids won't eat the cabbage no matter what I do to it.

    I did use a package of the red white and purple new potatoes, though I
    feel scammed as there were only two of the purple ones. My daughter
    doesn't care for them though and didn't eat them. Maybe I need to try
    mashing them for her as she likes mashed potatoes.

    I didn't cook it Sunday, but yesterday as I was too busy in the mornings
    to get it going early enough. I tried 4 hours on high one year starting
    it later (which it seems are the highest rated recipies) but it was
    tough and unpleasant. I did 2 hours high then 6 hours low and it came
    out perfect this year.

    I forgot the seasoning packet all together, but it still tasted
    delicious and we barely have enough left for maybe sandwiches, about 1/3
    to 1/4 of it.

    My wife lamented we didn't have the good gray poupon for it (country
    dijon) but really that's the only thing we ever use it on so it sits in
    the fridge taking up space the rest of the year. No one else puts
    mustard on it except for sandwiches either.

    --
    -Justisaur

    ø-ø
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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Wed Mar 20 18:43:55 2024
    On 2024-03-20, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:

    I love corned beef, not the lunchmeat though.

    What's the difference? Cook corned beef, slice it thin on a slicer:
    it's lunchmeat.

    I cook the cabbage separately right before serving as I don't care for
    eating the slime that comes out of guessing at, and don't have room to
    put it in the crock-pot too. I just dumped some of the cooking water
    from the crock-pot into the pan for flavor and boiled for 7 minutes.
    Both kids won't eat the cabbage no matter what I do to it.

    I wouldn't eat it, either.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Wed Mar 20 11:16:51 2024
    On 3/16/2024 2:07 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-16, S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
    On 16/03/2024 17:53, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-15 1:01 p.m., Graham wrote:

    Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.

    I should have added that I will be wearing an orange shirt and
    orange socks.

    I'll be wearing blue.
    I have little tolerance for bigots, whether green or orange.

    I'll be wearing whatever's next in my closet. Black or gray pants,
    probably a white t-shirt, and a blue flannel shirt.

    My wife and girl forgot when we went out and got a bit of joking. I
    forgot too, but I inadvertently had green on, I was wearing my Alligator
    Loki shirt. Someone mistook it for something Irish and I didn't correct
    them that it was Marvel/Viking. I also have green eyes (dark brown hair
    not red,) so I'm always prepared.

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    -Justisaur

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Thu Mar 21 13:28:08 2024
    On 3/21/2024 1:22 PM, Justisaur wrote:
    On 3/20/2024 11:43 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-20, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:

    I love corned beef, not the lunchmeat though.

    What's the difference?  Cook corned beef, slice it thin on a slicer:
    it's lunchmeat.
    I'm talking about the branded pre-sliced lunch meat like Hormel or whatever.   It's been a long time, I'm not sure if they still make it,
    but it's more the constancy of pastrami.


    That's funny. do you know what pastrami is?

    Step 1. Make corned beef

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Thu Mar 21 10:22:29 2024
    On 3/20/2024 11:43 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-20, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:

    I love corned beef, not the lunchmeat though.

    What's the difference? Cook corned beef, slice it thin on a slicer:
    it's lunchmeat.
    I'm talking about the branded pre-sliced lunch meat like Hormel or
    whatever. It's been a long time, I'm not sure if they still make it,
    but it's more the constancy of pastrami.


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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Thu Mar 21 17:44:33 2024
    On 2024-03-21, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On 3/20/2024 11:43 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-20, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:

    I love corned beef, not the lunchmeat though.

    What's the difference? Cook corned beef, slice it thin on a slicer:
    it's lunchmeat.
    I'm talking about the branded pre-sliced lunch meat like Hormel or
    whatever.

    That's not even food.

    I'm talking about corned beef sliced at the deli.

    Most grocery stores have the inferior corned round. A couple of places
    here have the superior corned brisket.

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    Cindy Hamilton

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