• Marmalade failure

    From Graham@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 7 20:54:07 2024
    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Graham on Thu Mar 7 23:47:47 2024
    On 3/7/2024 10:54 PM, Graham wrote:
    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.


    Can you dilute it and make something else from it?

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Ed P on Thu Mar 7 22:09:49 2024
    On 2024-03-07 9:47 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 3/7/2024 10:54 PM, Graham wrote:
    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.


    Can you dilute it and make something else from it?

    I don't think it's worth it. Sometimes one has to cut one's losses.
    It'll be quicker and easier to make a new batch.
    I worked on a cremation urn last week only for stress cracks to appear
    while I was having lunch. I wasted hours and hours trying to get around
    them and at the end of the day, it wasn't worth it.

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Graham on Fri Mar 8 04:30:30 2024
    Graham wrote:

    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.

    Well, that's a shame and that's a LOT of marmalade to go into the trash.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Thu Mar 7 22:14:24 2024
    On 2024-03-07 9:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.

    Well, that's a shame and that's a LOT of marmalade to go into the trash.

    I'll eat some of it but I have friends who raved about some I made
    2 years ago and several jars were intended for them but this batch is
    certainly not gift-worthy.
    "Oh, well" as Ned Kelly said as he was about to be hanged:-(

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  • From Ed Pawlowski@21:1/5 to Graham on Fri Mar 8 00:21:41 2024
    On 3/8/2024 12:14 AM, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-07 9:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.

    Well, that's a shame and that's a LOT of marmalade to go into the trash.

    I'll eat some of it but I have friends who raved about some I made
    2 years ago and several jars were intended for them but this batch is certainly not gift-worthy.
    "Oh, well" as Ned Kelly said as he was about to be hanged:-(

    You never know. Give them a taste.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Ed P on Fri Mar 8 16:31:27 2024
    On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 23:47:47 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    On 3/7/2024 10:54 PM, Graham wrote:
    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.


    Can you dilute it and make something else from it?

    Or fish out the lavender flowers?

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Ed Pawlowski on Fri Mar 8 05:58:15 2024
    Ed Pawlowski wrote:

    On 3/8/2024 12:14 AM, Graham wrote:

    On 2024-03-07 9:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    Graham wrote:

    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.

    Well, that's a shame and that's a LOT of marmalade to go into the trash.

    I'll eat some of it but I have friends who raved about some I made
    2 years ago and several jars were intended for them but this batch is
    certainly not gift-worthy.
    "Oh, well" as Ned Kelly said as he was about to be hanged:-(

    You never know. Give them a taste.

    I agree, let them taste it and ask them to be brutally honest. But if
    you see them running to the trash can to spit it out, no need to ask,
    "how is it?"

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 8 11:29:05 2024
    In article <65ea8bde$2$3158698
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, g.stereo@shaw.ca says...

    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much.

    !!!!I reckon that was a typo for 5gm (about a
    teaspoonful).


    Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.

    I might tie most of the lavender in muslin,( like I do
    for the pips of Seville oranges), then discard later. Just
    have a few buds visible in the jars. I buy muslin squares
    from Lakeland.

    Janet UK

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 8 11:31:25 2024
    In article <65ea9eb0$0$2187659
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, g.stereo@shaw.ca says...

    On 2024-03-07 9:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.

    Well, that's a shame and that's a LOT of marmalade to go into the trash.

    I'll eat some of it but I have friends who raved about some I made
    2 years ago and several jars were intended for them but this batch is certainly not gift-worthy.
    "Oh, well" as Ned Kelly said as he was about to be hanged:-(

    sieve a few spoon fulls free of lavender, and serve it
    as a sauce on icecream or pancakes ?

    Janet

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  • From GM@21:1/5 to Graham on Fri Mar 8 13:28:22 2024
    Graham wrote:

    On 2024-03-07 9:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.

    Well, that's a shame and that's a LOT of marmalade to go into the trash.

    I'll eat some of it but I have friends who raved about some I made
    2 years ago and several jars were intended for them but this batch is certainly not gift-worthy.
    "Oh, well" as Ned Kelly said as he was about to be hanged:-(


    God spoiled your marmalade because you are a filthy blasphemous atheist, Graham...

    O:-)

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  • From lucretia@florence.it@21:1/5 to gregorymorrow@msn.com on Fri Mar 8 09:36:30 2024
    On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 13:28:22 +0000, gregorymorrow@msn.com (GM) wrote:

    Graham wrote:

    On 2024-03-07 9:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.

    Well, that's a shame and that's a LOT of marmalade to go into the trash.

    I'll eat some of it but I have friends who raved about some I made
    2 years ago and several jars were intended for them but this batch is
    certainly not gift-worthy.
    "Oh, well" as Ned Kelly said as he was about to be hanged:-(


    God spoiled your marmalade because you are a filthy blasphemous atheist, Graham...

    O:-)

    Congratulations Graham! You displeased their imaginary figure head :)

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Graham on Fri Mar 8 08:47:11 2024
    On 2024-03-07 10:54 p.m., Graham wrote:
    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.


    Ouch. That is a shame. That can be a problem with had aromatics to
    things. Sometimes the taste is too much. I have that problem when I use rosemary. I like a little but but it doesn't take much to overwhelm it.
    Then there is thyme, which I have come to accept that I just don't care
    for at all.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Fri Mar 8 08:48:57 2024
    On 2024-03-07 11:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.

    Well, that's a shame and that's a LOT of marmalade to go into the trash.


    Or...... make another batch of marmalade and add the over lavandered
    product to it. Cook it together until it passes the set test.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Ed Pawlowski on Fri Mar 8 08:51:08 2024
    On 2024-03-08 12:21 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
    On 3/8/2024 12:14 AM, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-07 9:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    I'll eat some of it but I have friends who raved about some I made
    2 years ago and several jars were intended for them but this batch is
    certainly not gift-worthy.
    "Oh, well" as Ned Kelly said as he was about to be hanged:-(

    You never know.  Give them a taste.

    That could work. I had a friend who made some dill pickles and
    apologized for the spice. She had tried adding some hot peppers to them
    and she found it way to hot and spicy. I told her I thought they were
    perfect, so she gave me a half dozen jars of it, and I thoroughly
    enjoyed it.

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  • From GM@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Fri Mar 8 14:38:16 2024
    lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 13:28:22 +0000, gregorymorrow@msn.com (GM) wrote:

    Graham wrote:

    On 2024-03-07 9:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again. >>>>
    Well, that's a shame and that's a LOT of marmalade to go into the trash. >>
    I'll eat some of it but I have friends who raved about some I made
    2 years ago and several jars were intended for them but this batch is
    certainly not gift-worthy.
    "Oh, well" as Ned Kelly said as he was about to be hanged:-(


    God spoiled your marmalade because you are a filthy blasphemous atheist, Graham...

    O:-)

    Congratulations Graham! You displeased their imaginary figure head :)


    Tut, tut, Dear Lucretia...!!!

    'Tis not wise to mock Our Lord...!!!

    When you pass on from this mortal coil, wouldn't you rather join me up in Heaven for a life of ease and comfort - *instead* of what awaits poor Graham...???

    Graham is condemned to an Eternity of lakes of fire, utter pain and discomfort - and even forever - spoiled marmalade...

    Remember - here in the States even our currency is emblazoned with "In God We Trust"...!!!

    ;-D

    --
    GM

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 8 09:54:46 2024
    On 3/8/2024 9:38 AM, GM wrote:
    lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 13:28:22 +0000, gregorymorrow@msn.com (GM) wrote:

    Graham wrote:

    On 2024-03-07 9:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start
    again.

    Well, that's a shame and that's a LOT of marmalade to go into the
    trash.

    I'll eat some of it but I have friends who raved about some I made
    2 years ago and several jars were intended for them but this batch is
    certainly not gift-worthy.
    "Oh, well" as Ned Kelly said as he was about to be hanged:-(


    God spoiled your marmalade because you are a filthy blasphemous
    atheist, Graham...

    O:-)

    Congratulations Graham!  You displeased their imaginary figure head :)


    Tut, tut, Dear Lucretia...!!!

    'Tis not wise to mock Our Lord...!!!

    When you pass on from this mortal coil, wouldn't you rather join me up
    in Heaven for a life of ease and comfort - *instead* of what awaits poor Graham...???

    Graham is condemned to an Eternity of lakes of fire, utter pain and discomfort - and even forever - spoiled marmalade...

    Remember - here in the States even our currency is emblazoned with "In
    God We Trust"...!!!

    ;-D


    I know God. He is all powerful but lets kids have cancer.

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri Mar 8 15:09:31 2024
    On 2024-03-08, Dave Smith wrote:

    [...] dill pickles and [...] hot peppers.
    [...] I thought they were perfect, so she gave
    me a half dozen jars of it,

    By my reckoning, this is the proverbial
    peck of pickled peppers.

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri Mar 8 15:01:15 2024
    On 2024-03-08, Dave Smith wrote:

    Then there is thyme, which I have come to
    accept that I just don't care for at all.

    I'm not sure I truly understand your sentiment.

    I lavender on my 'no go' list a long time ago.

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri Mar 8 15:05:22 2024
    On 2024-03-08, Dave Smith wrote:

    Or...... make another batch of marmalade and add the over lavandered
    product to it. Cook it together until it passes the set test.

    From a parallel thread someone suggested he was 10 * off, so if it
    does not set, then he ends with 10 * the volume of bad marmalade.

    Well, at least it might improve the aroma in his
    local compost / methane extraction facility.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Fri Mar 8 15:28:33 2024
    On 2024-03-08, Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:
    On 2024-03-08, Dave Smith wrote:

    Then there is thyme, which I have come to
    accept that I just don't care for at all.

    I'm not sure I truly understand your sentiment.

    Perhaps not. Taste is dependent on the taster.

    For me, a very little thyme goes a long, long way. The same
    is the case for most of those sturdy herbs. Rosemary, for
    example.

    On the other hand, there's almost no such thing as too much
    parsley or cilantro.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Fri Mar 8 11:57:45 2024
    On 2024-03-08 10:01 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2024-03-08, Dave Smith wrote:

    Then there is thyme, which I have come to
    accept that I just don't care for at all.

    I'm not sure I truly understand your sentiment.

    I lavender on my 'no go' list a long time ago.


    I was thinking that sometimes a little bit of something can be a nice
    touch but too much of it can really spoil things. Rosemary and fresh
    thyme stand out on my list.

    I can't say that I have had a lot of lavender. The last time I remember
    having it was a creme brulee and honey topping. It was delicious, but
    that was out in Whistler close to 40 years ago.

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  • From lucretia@florence.it@21:1/5 to gregorymorrow@msn.com on Fri Mar 8 12:30:08 2024
    On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 14:38:16 +0000, gregorymorrow@msn.com (GM) wrote:

    lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 13:28:22 +0000, gregorymorrow@msn.com (GM) wrote:

    Graham wrote:

    On 2024-03-07 9:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again. >>>>>
    Well, that's a shame and that's a LOT of marmalade to go into the trash. >>>
    I'll eat some of it but I have friends who raved about some I made
    2 years ago and several jars were intended for them but this batch is
    certainly not gift-worthy.
    "Oh, well" as Ned Kelly said as he was about to be hanged:-(


    God spoiled your marmalade because you are a filthy blasphemous atheist, Graham...

    O:-)

    Congratulations Graham! You displeased their imaginary figure head :)


    Tut, tut, Dear Lucretia...!!!

    'Tis not wise to mock Our Lord...!!!

    When you pass on from this mortal coil, wouldn't you rather join me up in Heaven for a life of ease and comfort - *instead* of what awaits poor Graham...???

    Graham is condemned to an Eternity of lakes of fire, utter pain and discomfort - and even forever - spoiled marmalade...

    Remember - here in the States even our currency is emblazoned with "In God We Trust"...!!!

    ;-D

    No, when I hear the so-called saintly sorts a la Jimmy Bakker, I know
    if there really is anything after death, I would hate to join them. Be
    far more fun in hell.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Fri Mar 8 12:04:39 2024
    On 2024-03-08 10:09 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2024-03-08, Dave Smith wrote:

    [...] dill pickles and [...] hot peppers.
    [...] I thought they were perfect, so she gave
    me a half dozen jars of it,

    By my reckoning, this is the proverbial
    peck of pickled peppers.


    LOL It would have been close to a peck, but the peckage was mostly dill
    pickles and there were only a few hot peppers. It was enough pepper to
    make it uncomfortable for her, but I loved them.

    This leads me to wonder about the anti metric crowd. I wonder how many
    of those here who prefer the Imperial system actually know it well
    enough to know how much a peck is.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Fri Mar 8 12:13:18 2024
    On 2024-03-08 11:30 a.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 14:38:16 +0000, gregorymorrow@msn.com (GM) wrote:


    Remember - here in the States even our currency is emblazoned with "In God We Trust"...!!!

    ;-D

    No, when I hear the so-called saintly sorts a la Jimmy Bakker, I know
    if there really is anything after death, I would hate to join them. Be
    far more fun in hell.


    One day I was channel surfing and stopped at a religious program when I
    spotted that slimey creep. He had recently been released from jail and
    he introduced some young black guy he met in the bowels of the prison.
    The guy had had a troubled life and had endured privation as a child and
    ended up in a life of crime. He ministered to the guy and helped him
    find Jesus and salvation. Then he explained how he had come to
    understand why God had put him through that ordeal. God had been
    instrumental in getting Jimmy into the depths of that prison to find
    this guy and help him find Jesus. I almost puked at that.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to adavid.smith@sympatico.ca on Sat Mar 9 05:39:04 2024
    On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 11:57:45 -0500, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-03-08 10:01 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2024-03-08, Dave Smith wrote:

    Then there is thyme, which I have come to
    accept that I just don't care for at all.

    I'm not sure I truly understand your sentiment.

    I lavender on my 'no go' list a long time ago.


    I was thinking that sometimes a little bit of something can be a nice
    touch but too much of it can really spoil things.

    That's a deep thought, Dave "Mucus" Smith. Thanks for sharing.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri Mar 8 19:18:15 2024
    On 2024-03-08, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2024-03-08 10:09 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2024-03-08, Dave Smith wrote:

    [...] dill pickles and [...] hot peppers.
    [...] I thought they were perfect, so she gave
    me a half dozen jars of it,

    By my reckoning, this is the proverbial
    peck of pickled peppers.


    LOL It would have been close to a peck, but the peckage was mostly dill pickles and there were only a few hot peppers. It was enough pepper to
    make it uncomfortable for her, but I loved them.

    This leads me to wonder about the anti metric crowd. I wonder how many
    of those here who prefer the Imperial system actually know it well
    enough to know how much a peck is.

    It's the basket of tomatoes at the farmer's market that's bigger
    than a quart. Is greater precision needed?

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Fri Mar 8 16:05:54 2024
    On 2024-03-08 2:18 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-08, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    This leads me to wonder about the anti metric crowd. I wonder how many
    of those here who prefer the Imperial system actually know it well
    enough to know how much a peck is.

    It's the basket of tomatoes at the farmer's market that's bigger
    than a quart. Is greater precision needed?


    Since this is a matter of comparing Imperial to Metric.... yeah, some
    precision is required.

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 8 21:28:47 2024
    In article <S4LGN.407639$Ama9.154393@fx12.iad>,
    adavid.smith@sympatico.ca says...

    On 2024-03-08 2:18 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-08, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    This leads me to wonder about the anti metric crowd. I wonder how many
    of those here who prefer the Imperial system actually know it well
    enough to know how much a peck is.

    It's the basket of tomatoes at the farmer's market that's bigger
    than a quart. Is greater precision needed?


    Since this is a matter of comparing Imperial to Metric.... yeah, some precision is required.

    When I was in primary school, the inside back cover of
    every excercise book was printed with the imperial
    measures, like this

    https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/299982025154725677/

    we learned the ones for weight, length, area by heart and
    could chant them by rote, just like multiplication tables.
    Mental arithmetic featured questions like

    "Bob walked five furlongs to town, how many yards did he
    travel?His speed was 3 miles per hour, how long did it
    take? At the shop he bought six ounces of sugar. Sugar
    costs 1s/10d per pound, how much change did he get from
    half a crown."


    Janet UK

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Fri Mar 8 17:03:05 2024
    On 3/8/2024 8:36 AM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 13:28:22 +0000, gregorymorrow@msn.com (GM) wrote:

    Graham wrote:

    On 2024-03-07 9:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again. >>>>
    Well, that's a shame and that's a LOT of marmalade to go into the trash. >>
    I'll eat some of it but I have friends who raved about some I made
    2 years ago and several jars were intended for them but this batch is
    certainly not gift-worthy.
    "Oh, well" as Ned Kelly said as he was about to be hanged:-(


    God spoiled your marmalade because you are a filthy blasphemous atheist, Graham...

    O:-)

    Congratulations Graham! You displeased their imaginary figure head :)

    LOL! As if GM is one to talk about filthy and blasphemous anything. GM
    should be smited by GOD for all the nasty comments he makes.

    Jill

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri Mar 8 22:09:59 2024
    On 2024-03-08, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2024-03-08 2:18 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-08, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    This leads me to wonder about the anti metric crowd. I wonder how many
    of those here who prefer the Imperial system actually know it well
    enough to know how much a peck is.

    It's the basket of tomatoes at the farmer's market that's bigger
    than a quart. Is greater precision needed?


    Since this is a matter of comparing Imperial to Metric.... yeah, some precision is required.

    A quarter of a bushel. And I didn't have to look that up.

    Even if we converted to metric, I imagine the vendors at the farmer's
    market would just fill up a peck basket and label it with the price
    they want for it. It's up to the buyer to decide if that's how much
    they want to buy.

    Now, if you wanted to convert a peck to a kilo, that would depend
    on what's being measured. Tomatoes, potatoes, strawberries, etc.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Janet on Fri Mar 8 17:15:53 2024
    On 3/8/2024 4:28 PM, Janet wrote:

    When I was in primary school, the inside back cover of
    every excercise book was printed with the imperial
    measures, like this

    https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/299982025154725677/

    we learned the ones for weight, length, area by heart and
    could chant them by rote, just like multiplication tables.
    Mental arithmetic featured questions like

    "Bob walked five furlongs to town, how many yards did he
    travel?His speed was 3 miles per hour, how long did it
    take? At the shop he bought six ounces of sugar. Sugar
    costs 1s/10d per pound, how much change did he get from
    half a crown."


    Janet UK


    That's easy. A furlong is 2.2 football fields or .62 miles so it took
    him a bit over 12 minutes, maybe more if he was looking around at the
    scenery of he met a pretty girl.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Janet on Sat Mar 9 09:32:07 2024
    On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 21:28:47 -0000, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

    In article <S4LGN.407639$Ama9.154393@fx12.iad>,
    adavid.smith@sympatico.ca says...

    On 2024-03-08 2:18 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-08, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    This leads me to wonder about the anti metric crowd. I wonder how many
    of those here who prefer the Imperial system actually know it well
    enough to know how much a peck is.

    It's the basket of tomatoes at the farmer's market that's bigger
    than a quart. Is greater precision needed?


    Since this is a matter of comparing Imperial to Metric.... yeah, some
    precision is required.

    When I was in primary school, the inside back cover of
    every excercise book was printed with the imperial
    measures, like this

    https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/299982025154725677/

    we learned the ones for weight, length, area by heart and
    could chant them by rote, just like multiplication tables.
    Mental arithmetic featured questions like

    "Bob walked five furlongs to town, how many yards did he
    travel?His speed was 3 miles per hour, how long did it
    take? At the shop he bought six ounces of sugar. Sugar
    costs 1s/10d per pound, how much change did he get from
    half a crown."

    This is way to difficult for people who are capable of voting for
    Donald Trump. Try this:

    Bob has 2 cookies. He eats one. How many does he have left?

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Fri Mar 8 16:55:39 2024
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-08, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2024-03-08 10:09 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2024-03-08, Dave Smith wrote:

    [...] dill pickles and [...] hot peppers.
    [...] I thought they were perfect, so she gave
    me a half dozen jars of it,

    By my reckoning, this is the proverbial
    peck of pickled peppers.


    LOL It would have been close to a peck, but the peckage was mostly dill
    pickles and there were only a few hot peppers. It was enough pepper to
    make it uncomfortable for her, but I loved them.

    This leads me to wonder about the anti metric crowd. I wonder how many
    of those here who prefer the Imperial system actually know it well
    enough to know how much a peck is.

    It's the basket of tomatoes at the farmer's market that's bigger
    than a quart. Is greater precision needed?


    I wonder if officer dave ever had to use whitworth wrenches when he
    commanded the canadian machinery shop in the old days.

    I bet that was hell.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Fri Mar 8 17:05:43 2024
    jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/8/2024 8:36 AM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 13:28:22 +0000, gregorymorrow@msn.com (GM) wrote:

    Graham wrote:

    On 2024-03-07 9:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again. >>>>>
    Well, that's a shame and that's a LOT of marmalade to go into the trash. >>>
    I'll eat some of it but I have friends who raved about some I made
    2 years ago and several jars were intended for them but this batch is
    certainly not gift-worthy.
    "Oh, well" as Ned Kelly said as he was about to be hanged:-(


    God spoiled your marmalade because you are a filthy blasphemous atheist, >>> Graham...

    O:-)

    Congratulations Graham!  You displeased their imaginary figure head :)

    LOL!  As if GM is one to talk about filthy and blasphemous anything.  GM should be smited by GOD for all the nasty comments he makes.

    Jill

    I especially was shocked when he said your highness should be raped. Nasty nasty nasty for a god fearing republican christian Magat. I think I just
    might not vote for trump if it causes shit like this.

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Graham on Fri Mar 8 15:26:56 2024
    On 3/7/2024 7:54 PM, Graham wrote:
    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.

    Not that it matters one whit to anyone else, but I can't stand lavender.
    It smells like rotting roadkill to me and makes me cough.

    --
    -Justisaur

    ø-ø
    (\_/)\
    `-'\ `--.___,
    ¶¬'\( ,_.-'
    \\
    ^'

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  • From GM@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Fri Mar 8 23:35:12 2024
    Hank Rogers wrote:

    jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/8/2024 8:36 AM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 13:28:22 +0000, gregorymorrow@msn.com (GM) wrote:

    Graham wrote:

    On 2024-03-07 9:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers >>>>>>> but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender >>>>>>> but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly >>>>>>> bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again. >>>>>>
    Well, that's a shame and that's a LOT of marmalade to go into the trash. >>>>
    I'll eat some of it but I have friends who raved about some I made
    2 years ago and several jars were intended for them but this batch is >>>>> certainly not gift-worthy.
    "Oh, well" as Ned Kelly said as he was about to be hanged:-(


    God spoiled your marmalade because you are a filthy blasphemous atheist, >>>> Graham...

    O:-)

    Congratulations Graham!  You displeased their imaginary figure head :)

    LOL!  As if GM is one to talk about filthy and blasphemous anything.  GM >> should be smited by GOD for all the nasty comments he makes.

    Jill

    I especially was shocked when he said your highness should be raped. Nasty nasty nasty for a god fearing republican christian Magat. I think I just might not vote for trump if it causes shit like this.


    If I gift you a Tesla will you cast yer vote for THE DONALD, Sire Hank...???

    --
    GM

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri Mar 8 23:38:53 2024
    On 2024-03-08, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    I can't say that I have had a lot of lavender. The last time I remember having it was a creme brulee and honey topping. It was delicious, but
    that was out in Whistler close to 40 years ago.


    I don't know that I've ever tasted lavender. I "think" there's a rose
    essence that I've never tried either.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 9 10:52:10 2024
    On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 15:26:56 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 3/7/2024 7:54 PM, Graham wrote:
    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.

    Not that it matters one whit to anyone else, but I can't stand lavender.
    It smells like rotting roadkill to me and makes me cough.

    I don't mind the smell but I don't need to eat it, just like I
    wouldn't like to eat air freshener.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 8 17:47:49 2024
    GM wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote:

    jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/8/2024 8:36 AM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 13:28:22 +0000, gregorymorrow@msn.com (GM) wrote:

    Graham wrote:

    On 2024-03-07 9:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following >>>>>>>> a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers >>>>>>>> but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been >>>>>>>> sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender >>>>>>>> but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly >>>>>>>> bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again. >>>>>>>
    Well, that's a shame and that's a LOT of marmalade to go into the >>>>>>> trash.

    I'll eat some of it but I have friends who raved about some I made >>>>>> 2 years ago and several jars were intended for them but this batch is >>>>>> certainly not gift-worthy.
    "Oh, well" as Ned Kelly said as he was about to be hanged:-(


    God spoiled your marmalade because you are a filthy blasphemous
    atheist, Graham...

    O:-)

    Congratulations Graham!  You displeased their imaginary figure head :) >>>
    LOL!  As if GM is one to talk about filthy and blasphemous anything.Â
    GM should be smited by GOD for all the nasty comments he makes.

    Jill

    I especially was shocked when he said your highness should be raped.
    Nasty nasty nasty for a god fearing republican christian Magat. I think I
    just might not vote for trump if it causes shit like this.


    If I gift you a Tesla will you cast yer vote for THE DONALD, Sire Hank...???


    No sir. The only way is if he gives me a get out of jail free card
    applicable to any crimes I may commit. And then, ONLY after the sorry
    asshole gets elected. Fuck the tesla. I don't trust the treasonous bastard.

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  • From GM@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Fri Mar 8 23:54:40 2024
    Hank Rogers wrote:

    GM wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote:

    jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/8/2024 8:36 AM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 13:28:22 +0000, gregorymorrow@msn.com (GM) wrote: >>>>>
    Graham wrote:

    On 2024-03-07 9:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following >>>>>>>>> a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers >>>>>>>>> but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been >>>>>>>>> sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender >>>>>>>>> but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly >>>>>>>>> bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.

    Well, that's a shame and that's a LOT of marmalade to go into the >>>>>>>> trash.

    I'll eat some of it but I have friends who raved about some I made >>>>>>> 2 years ago and several jars were intended for them but this batch is >>>>>>> certainly not gift-worthy.
    "Oh, well" as Ned Kelly said as he was about to be hanged:-(


    God spoiled your marmalade because you are a filthy blasphemous
    atheist, Graham...

    O:-)

    Congratulations Graham!  You displeased their imaginary figure head :) >>>>
    LOL!  As if GM is one to talk about filthy and blasphemous anything. >>>> GM should be smited by GOD for all the nasty comments he makes.

    Jill

    I especially was shocked when he said your highness should be raped.
    Nasty nasty nasty for a god fearing republican christian Magat. I think I >>> just might not vote for trump if it causes shit like this.


    If I gift you a Tesla will you cast yer vote for THE DONALD, Sire Hank...??? >>

    No sir. The only way is if he gives me a get out of jail free card
    applicable to any crimes I may commit. And then, ONLY after the sorry
    asshole gets elected. Fuck the tesla. I don't trust the treasonous bastard.


    Sooo... instead of a Tesla, mebbe an evening with a Vatican nun hooker...???

    --
    GM

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Fri Mar 8 19:01:29 2024
    On 3/8/2024 6:26 PM, Justisaur wrote:
    On 3/7/2024 7:54 PM, Graham wrote:
    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.

    Not that it matters one whit to anyone else, but I can't stand lavender.
     It smells like rotting roadkill to me and makes me cough.

    I don't want to eat lavender but I find the scent very soothing.

    Jill

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Janet on Fri Mar 8 23:28:19 2024
    On 2024-03-08, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

    "Bob walked five furlongs to town, how many yards did he
    travel?His speed was 3 miles per hour, how long did it
    take? At the shop he bought six ounces of sugar. Sugar
    costs 1s/10d per pound, how much change did he get from
    half a crown."


    I prefer my speeds stated as furlongs/fortnight.

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Fri Mar 8 23:42:47 2024
    On 2024-03-08, Justisaur wrote:

    Not that it matters one whit to anyone else, but I
    can't stand lavender. It smells like rotting roadkill

    Does it remind you of lilac? That's one 'invasive'
    species the way the smell invades the neighborhood
    and mixes with the rotting over-wintered humus smell.

    Both remind me of bathroom / laundry smell from soap &c.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 8 18:26:25 2024
    GM wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote:

    GM wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote:

    jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/8/2024 8:36 AM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 13:28:22 +0000, gregorymorrow@msn.com (GM) wrote: >>>>>>
    Graham wrote:

    On 2024-03-07 9:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following >>>>>>>>>> a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers >>>>>>>>>> but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been >>>>>>>>>> sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender >>>>>>>>>> but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly >>>>>>>>>> bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start >>>>>>>>>> again.

    Well, that's a shame and that's a LOT of marmalade to go into the >>>>>>>>> trash.

    I'll eat some of it but I have friends who raved about some I made >>>>>>>> 2 years ago and several jars were intended for them but this batch is >>>>>>>> certainly not gift-worthy.
    "Oh, well" as Ned Kelly said as he was about to be hanged:-(


    God spoiled your marmalade because you are a filthy blasphemous
    atheist, Graham...

    O:-)

    Congratulations Graham!  You displeased their imaginary figure
    head :)

    LOL!  As if GM is one to talk about filthy and blasphemous
    anything. GM should be smited by GOD for all the nasty comments he >>>>> makes.

    Jill

    I especially was shocked when he said your highness should be raped.
    Nasty nasty nasty for a god fearing republican christian Magat. I think >>>> I just might not vote for trump if it causes shit like this.


    If I gift you a Tesla will you cast yer vote for THE DONALD, Sire
    Hank...???


    No sir. The only way is if he gives me a get out of jail free card
    applicable to any crimes I may commit. And then, ONLY after the sorry
    asshole gets elected. Fuck the tesla. I don't trust the treasonous bastard.


    Sooo... instead of a Tesla, mebbe an evening with a Vatican nun hooker...???


    Nope, I want nothing to do with criminals.

    Even if they were once elected to the presidency.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Fri Mar 8 18:46:14 2024
    Hank Rogers wrote:
    GM wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote:

    GM wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote:

    jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/8/2024 8:36 AM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 13:28:22 +0000, gregorymorrow@msn.com (GM) wrote: >>>>>>>
    Graham wrote:

    On 2024-03-07 9:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following >>>>>>>>>>> a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers >>>>>>>>>>> but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been >>>>>>>>>>> sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender >>>>>>>>>>> but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly >>>>>>>>>>> bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start >>>>>>>>>>> again.

    Well, that's a shame and that's a LOT of marmalade to go into the >>>>>>>>>> trash.

    I'll eat some of it but I have friends who raved about some I made >>>>>>>>> 2 years ago and several jars were intended for them but this batch is >>>>>>>>> certainly not gift-worthy.
    "Oh, well" as Ned Kelly said as he was about to be hanged:-(


    God spoiled your marmalade because you are a filthy blasphemous >>>>>>>> atheist, Graham...

    O:-)

    Congratulations Graham!  You displeased their imaginary figure >>>>>>> head :)

    LOL!  As if GM is one to talk about filthy and blasphemous
    anything. GM should be smited by GOD for all the nasty comments he >>>>>> makes.

    Jill

    I especially was shocked when he said your highness should be raped. >>>>> Nasty nasty nasty for a god fearing republican christian Magat. I
    think I just might not vote for trump if it causes shit like this.


    If I gift you a Tesla will you cast yer vote for THE DONALD, Sire
    Hank...???


    No sir. The only way is if he gives me a get out of jail free card
    applicable to any crimes I may commit. And then, ONLY after the sorry
    asshole gets elected. Fuck the tesla. I don't trust the treasonous bastard. >>

    Sooo... instead of a Tesla, mebbe an evening with a Vatican nun hooker...??? >>

    Nope, I want nothing to do with criminals.

    Even if they were once elected to the presidency.


    I might change my mind if trump had a real strong-man on the ticket. I
    might vote for him, if vladimer pootin was on the republican ballot.

    America needs a real strong dictator, and trump is just too wimpy.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Fri Mar 8 20:39:21 2024
    On 2024-03-08 6:42 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2024-03-08, Justisaur wrote:

    Not that it matters one whit to anyone else, but I
    can't stand lavender. It smells like rotting roadkill

    Does it remind you of lilac? That's one 'invasive'
    species the way the smell invades the neighborhood
    and mixes with the rotting over-wintered humus smell.

    Both remind me of bathroom / laundry smell from soap &c.


    Are lilacs invasive? They do well here in Niagara. I have about a dozen
    of them on my property. The have beautiful flowers and a pleasant smell.
    They pop up shoots nearby by but they don't really spread out enough
    that I would call them invasive.

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat Mar 9 01:48:59 2024
    Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2024-03-08 11:30 a.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    No, when I hear the so-called saintly sorts a la Jimmy Bakker, I know
    if there really is anything after death, I would hate to join them. Be
    far more fun in hell.


    One day I was channel surfing and stopped at a religious program when I spotted that slimey creep. He had recently been released from jail and
    he introduced some young black guy he met in the bowels of the prison.
    The guy had had a troubled life and had endured privation as a child and ended up in a life of crime. He ministered to the guy and helped him
    find Jesus and salvation. Then he explained how he had come to
    understand why God had put him through that ordeal. God had been
    instrumental in getting Jimmy into the depths of that prison to find
    this guy and help him find Jesus. I almost puked at that.

    I would have, too.

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  • From GM@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Sat Mar 9 01:59:35 2024
    Hank Rogers wrote:

    Hank Rogers wrote:
    GM wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote:

    GM wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote:

    jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/8/2024 8:36 AM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 13:28:22 +0000, gregorymorrow@msn.com (GM) wrote: >>>>>>>>
    Graham wrote:

    On 2024-03-07 9:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following >>>>>>>>>>>> a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers >>>>>>>>>>>> but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been >>>>>>>>>>>> sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender >>>>>>>>>>>> but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly >>>>>>>>>>>> bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start >>>>>>>>>>>> again.

    Well, that's a shame and that's a LOT of marmalade to go into the >>>>>>>>>>> trash.

    I'll eat some of it but I have friends who raved about some I made >>>>>>>>>> 2 years ago and several jars were intended for them but this batch is
    certainly not gift-worthy.
    "Oh, well" as Ned Kelly said as he was about to be hanged:-( >>>>>>>>>

    God spoiled your marmalade because you are a filthy blasphemous >>>>>>>>> atheist, Graham...

    O:-)

    Congratulations Graham!  You displeased their imaginary figure >>>>>>>> head :)

    LOL!  As if GM is one to talk about filthy and blasphemous >>>>>>> anything. GM should be smited by GOD for all the nasty comments he >>>>>>> makes.

    Jill

    I especially was shocked when he said your highness should be raped. >>>>>> Nasty nasty nasty for a god fearing republican christian Magat. I
    think I just might not vote for trump if it causes shit like this.


    If I gift you a Tesla will you cast yer vote for THE DONALD, Sire
    Hank...???


    No sir. The only way is if he gives me a get out of jail free card
    applicable to any crimes I may commit. And then, ONLY after the sorry
    asshole gets elected. Fuck the tesla. I don't trust the treasonous bastard.


    Sooo... instead of a Tesla, mebbe an evening with a Vatican nun hooker...???


    Nope, I want nothing to do with criminals.

    Even if they were once elected to the presidency.


    I might change my mind if trump had a real strong-man on the ticket. I
    might vote for him, if vladimer pootin was on the republican ballot.

    America needs a real strong dictator, and trump is just too wimpy.


    President Trump has promised that he will make me Director of the NASA Astronaut Corps, Sire Hank...

    Let me know if you'd like a nice gig with the Corps...

    --
    GM

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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Sat Mar 9 02:11:17 2024
    On 09/03/2024 00:01, jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/8/2024 6:26 PM, Justisaur wrote:
    On 3/7/2024 7:54 PM, Graham wrote:
    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.

    Not that it matters one whit to anyone else, but I can't stand
    lavender.   It smells like rotting roadkill to me and makes me cough.

    I don't want to eat lavender but I find the scent very soothing.

    So do I.
    I hang little sachets on my clothes hangers - smells nice, and helps to
    deter moths, too.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Mar 9 10:58:53 2024
    On 2024-03-08, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 15:26:56 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 3/7/2024 7:54 PM, Graham wrote:
    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.

    Not that it matters one whit to anyone else, but I can't stand lavender.
    It smells like rotting roadkill to me and makes me cough.

    I don't mind the smell but I don't need to eat it, just like I
    wouldn't like to eat air freshener.

    Yet it's a component of the classic herbs de Provence. Ah, well,
    to each their own.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to S Viemeister on Sat Mar 9 10:59:37 2024
    On 2024-03-09, S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
    On 09/03/2024 00:01, jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/8/2024 6:26 PM, Justisaur wrote:
    On 3/7/2024 7:54 PM, Graham wrote:
    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.

    Not that it matters one whit to anyone else, but I can't stand
    lavender.   It smells like rotting roadkill to me and makes me cough.

    I don't want to eat lavender but I find the scent very soothing.

    So do I.
    I hang little sachets on my clothes hangers - smells nice, and helps to
    deter moths, too.

    Are moths even a "thing" anymore, now that we launder our clothing on
    a regular basis?

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat Mar 9 11:59:44 2024
    On 09/03/2024 10:59, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-09, S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
    On 09/03/2024 00:01, jmcquown wrote:

    I don't want to eat lavender but I find the scent very soothing.

    So do I.
    I hang little sachets on my clothes hangers - smells nice, and helps to
    deter moths, too.

    Are moths even a "thing" anymore, now that we launder our clothing on
    a regular basis?

    Yes.
    I don't wear much wool in hot weather, and having lost a few really nice garments to moths, I started doing what my Granny did, and storing
    woolens with lavender.
    It works.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to S Viemeister on Sat Mar 9 12:36:34 2024
    On 2024-03-09, S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
    On 09/03/2024 10:59, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-09, S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
    On 09/03/2024 00:01, jmcquown wrote:

    I don't want to eat lavender but I find the scent very soothing.

    So do I.
    I hang little sachets on my clothes hangers - smells nice, and helps to
    deter moths, too.

    Are moths even a "thing" anymore, now that we launder our clothing on
    a regular basis?

    Yes.
    I don't wear much wool in hot weather, and having lost a few really nice garments to moths, I started doing what my Granny did, and storing
    woolens with lavender.
    It works.

    Ah. I don't wear wool at all. If it can't go in the washing machine
    and dryer, I'm not interested.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to S Viemeister on Sat Mar 9 09:51:48 2024
    On 3/8/2024 9:11 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
    On 09/03/2024 00:01, jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/8/2024 6:26 PM, Justisaur wrote:
    On 3/7/2024 7:54 PM, Graham wrote:
    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.

    Not that it matters one whit to anyone else, but I can't stand
    lavender.   It smells like rotting roadkill to me and makes me cough.

    I don't want to eat lavender but I find the scent very soothing.

    So do I.
    I hang little sachets on my clothes hangers - smells nice, and helps to
    deter moths, too.

    I have some lavender water that I spritz on my pillow cases. I don't
    care for strong scents but this is very light and I find it helps me
    sleep. :)

    Jill

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat Mar 9 09:55:23 2024
    On 3/9/2024 5:59 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-09, S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
    On 09/03/2024 00:01, jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/8/2024 6:26 PM, Justisaur wrote:
    On 3/7/2024 7:54 PM, Graham wrote:
    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again. >>>>
    Not that it matters one whit to anyone else, but I can't stand
    lavender.   It smells like rotting roadkill to me and makes me cough. >>>>
    I don't want to eat lavender but I find the scent very soothing.

    So do I.
    I hang little sachets on my clothes hangers - smells nice, and helps to
    deter moths, too.

    Are moths even a "thing" anymore, now that we launder our clothing on
    a regular basis?

    It depends on the clothing. I have a couple of wool coats (which, as
    you can imagine, I don't need to wear in South Carolina) hanging in the
    hall closet. There is some evidence of moth holes. I'll have to spritz
    them with lavender water. I didn't know lavender would deter moths.

    Jill

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Sat Mar 9 10:28:15 2024
    Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    ...
    I don't know that I've ever tasted lavender. I "think" there's a rose
    essence that I've never tried either.

    they pretty much taste about how they smell...

    a few bits of lavender in shortbread cookies is unique.
    have not repeated them though. so not a massive favorite.
    plain or chocolate chips are about as far as i'd go.

    one spice a little of where too much can destroy a dish
    is nutmeg. cardamom is another...


    songbird

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to songbird on Sat Mar 9 11:13:32 2024
    On 2024-03-09 10:28 a.m., songbird wrote:
    Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    ...
    I don't know that I've ever tasted lavender. I "think" there's a rose
    essence that I've never tried either.

    they pretty much taste about how they smell...

    There is chewing gum sold in Canada called Thrills. It has an odd taste
    that people seem to love or hate. It turns out to be flavoured with
    rosewater. That is also used to flavour Turkish delight. That is
    something I used to like when I was young. I bought a small amount of it
    at the Bulk Barn a couple months ago. I had a couple pieces of it and
    was left wondering what the hell I ever saw in that stuff.


    a few bits of lavender in shortbread cookies is unique.
    have not repeated them though. so not a massive favorite.
    plain or chocolate chips are about as far as i'd go.

    one spice a little of where too much can destroy a dish
    is nutmeg. cardamom is another...

    Nutmeg is something I like in small doses. However, I use only freshly
    grated nutmeg. It is infinitely better tasting than the ground stuff.
    When recipes call for nutmeg they usually want about 1/4 to 1/2
    teaspoon. I grate a fraction of that amount and it works out well.






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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Sat Mar 9 10:31:42 2024
    Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    ...
    I prefer my speeds stated as furlongs/fortnight.

    heaping wodges.


    songbird

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to songbird on Sat Mar 9 11:46:20 2024
    On 3/9/2024 10:28 AM, songbird wrote:
    Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    ...
    I don't know that I've ever tasted lavender. I "think" there's a rose
    essence that I've never tried either.

    they pretty much taste about how they smell...

    a few bits of lavender in shortbread cookies is unique.
    have not repeated them though. so not a massive favorite.
    plain or chocolate chips are about as far as i'd go.

    one spice a little of where too much can destroy a dish
    is nutmeg. cardamom is another...


    songbird

    A little too much of any spice can destroy a dish. However, I like
    nutmeg. I use it sprinkled on my spinach/feta quiche. Just don't go overboard.

    Jill

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to songbird on Sat Mar 9 17:22:22 2024
    On 2024-03-09, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
    Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    ...
    I don't know that I've ever tasted lavender. I "think" there's a rose
    essence that I've never tried either.

    they pretty much taste about how they smell...

    a few bits of lavender in shortbread cookies is unique.
    have not repeated them though. so not a massive favorite.
    plain or chocolate chips are about as far as i'd go.

    one spice a little of where too much can destroy a dish
    is nutmeg. cardamom is another...

    I agree with you on nutmeg. I haven't found the tipping point
    for cardamom yet.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 10 05:29:09 2024
    On 09 Mar 2024 10:58:53 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
    wrote:

    On 2024-03-08, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 15:26:56 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 3/7/2024 7:54 PM, Graham wrote:
    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.

    Not that it matters one whit to anyone else, but I can't stand lavender.
    It smells like rotting roadkill to me and makes me cough.

    I don't mind the smell but I don't need to eat it, just like I
    wouldn't like to eat air freshener.

    Yet it's a component of the classic herbs de Provence. Ah, well,
    to each their own.

    A bit too much and they remind me of shampoo.

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Sat Mar 9 19:07:03 2024
    jmcquown wrote:

    A little too much of any spice can destroy a dish. However, I like
    nutmeg. I use it sprinkled on my spinach/feta quiche. Just don't go overboard.

    Jill

    Many, many years ago I invited b/f at that time over for dinner.
    One of the vegetable dishes was broccoli and the recipe I used
    called for a smidge of nutmeg in the dish. It was immediately
    apparent in the first taste and it was a tiny bit; neither of
    us cared for that flavoring in the dish. That dish has never
    been repeated.

    I LOVE nutmeg in sweets/baked goods, but I thought it was awful
    in what I'd call a savory dish.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Sat Mar 9 19:38:52 2024
    On 2024-03-09, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
    jmcquown wrote:

    A little too much of any spice can destroy a dish. However, I like
    nutmeg. I use it sprinkled on my spinach/feta quiche. Just don't go
    overboard.

    Jill

    Many, many years ago I invited b/f at that time over for dinner.
    One of the vegetable dishes was broccoli and the recipe I used
    called for a smidge of nutmeg in the dish. It was immediately
    apparent in the first taste and it was a tiny bit; neither of
    us cared for that flavoring in the dish. That dish has never
    been repeated.

    I LOVE nutmeg in sweets/baked goods, but I thought it was awful
    in what I'd call a savory dish.

    If you can taste it, it's too much. I grate a few shavings of
    nutmeg into bechamel (before it becomes something else--mornay or
    scalloped potatoes, for example).

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Sat Mar 9 16:10:35 2024
    ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    jmcquown wrote:

    A little too much of any spice can destroy a dish.  However, I like
    nutmeg.  I use it sprinkled on my spinach/feta quiche.  Just don't go
    overboard.

    Jill

    Many, many years ago I invited b/f at that time over for dinner. One of the vegetable dishes was broccoli and the recipe I used
    called for a smidge of nutmeg in the dish.  It was immediately
    apparent in the first taste and it was a tiny bit; neither of
    us cared for that flavoring in the dish.  That dish has never
    been repeated.

    I LOVE nutmeg in sweets/baked goods, but I thought it was awful
    in what I'd call a savory dish.

    Yes, a horrible flavor for any savory vittles.

    Cinnamon too, but the asians use it a lot.

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  • From William Price@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Sun Mar 10 06:56:21 2024
    jmcquown wrote:
    I have some lavender water that I spritz on my pillow cases.  I don't
    care for strong scents but this is very light and I find it helps me
    sleep. :)

    Jill


    Try this sometime -

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJzp4ljVDi0

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to songbird on Sun Mar 10 15:44:24 2024
    songbird wrote:

    Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    ...
    I prefer my speeds stated as furlongs/fortnight.

    heaping wodges.


    songbird

    That abouts yonder yonder (double yonder means 'fur piece')

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Sun Mar 10 15:51:44 2024
    jmcquown wrote:

    On 3/8/2024 6:26 PM, Justisaur wrote:
    On 3/7/2024 7:54 PM, Graham wrote:
    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start
    again.

    Not that it matters one whit to anyone else, but I can't stand
    lavender.  It smells like rotting roadkill to me and makes me
    cough.

    I don't want to eat lavender but I find the scent very soothing.

    Jill

    Actually I used the flowers in po-purri but the leaves are very like
    strong rosemary.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to cshenk@virginia-beach.net on Mon Mar 11 05:31:30 2024
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 15:44:24 +0000, "cshenk"
    <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:

    songbird wrote:

    Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    ...
    I prefer my speeds stated as furlongs/fortnight.

    heaping wodges.


    songbird

    That abouts yonder yonder (double yonder means 'fur piece')

    I'll leave this one to Cindy.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Sun Mar 10 15:13:58 2024
    On 2024-03-07 10:58 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:


    You never know.  Give them a taste.

    I agree, let them taste it and ask them to be brutally honest.  But if
    you see them running to the trash can to spit it out, no need to ask,
    "how is it?"
    No! I've been eating it and it's not nearly up to par!

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Janet on Sun Mar 10 15:15:23 2024
    On 2024-03-08 2:28 p.m., Janet wrote:
    In article <S4LGN.407639$Ama9.154393@fx12.iad>,


    When I was in primary school, the inside back cover of
    every excercise book was printed with the imperial
    measures, like this

    https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/299982025154725677/

    we learned the ones for weight, length, area by heart and
    could chant them by rote, just like multiplication tables.
    Mental arithmetic featured questions like

    "Bob walked five furlongs to town, how many yards did he
    travel?His speed was 3 miles per hour, how long did it
    take? At the shop he bought six ounces of sugar. Sugar
    costs 1s/10d per pound, how much change did he get from
    half a crown."


    Janet UK

    And we were still taught words like "byre".

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Janet on Sun Mar 10 15:33:23 2024
    On 2024-03-08 4:31 a.m., Janet wrote:
    In article <65ea9eb0$0$2187659
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, g.stereo@shaw.ca says...

    On 2024-03-07 9:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.

    Well, that's a shame and that's a LOT of marmalade to go into the trash.

    I'll eat some of it but I have friends who raved about some I made
    2 years ago and several jars were intended for them but this batch is
    certainly not gift-worthy.
    "Oh, well" as Ned Kelly said as he was about to be hanged:-(

    sieve a few spoon fulls free of lavender, and serve it
    as a sauce on icecream or pancakes ?

    Janet
    There's just too much!

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sun Mar 10 15:40:32 2024
    On 2024-03-08 6:47 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-07 10:54 p.m., Graham wrote:
    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.


    Ouch. That is a shame. That can be a problem with had aromatics to
    things. Sometimes the taste is too much. I have that problem when I use rosemary. I like a little but but it doesn't take much to overwhelm it.
    Then there is thyme, which I have come to accept that I just don't care
    for at all.

    After multiple tastings, The flavour is just too strong - and I like
    lavender!

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sun Mar 10 15:41:44 2024
    On 2024-03-08 10:13 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-08 11:30 a.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 14:38:16 +0000, gregorymorrow@msn.com (GM) wrote:


    Remember - here in the States even our currency is emblazoned with
    "In God We Trust"...!!!

    ;-D

    No, when I hear the so-called saintly sorts a la Jimmy Bakker, I know
    if there really is anything after death, I would hate to join them. Be
    far more fun in hell.


    One day I was channel surfing and stopped at a religious program when I spotted that slimey creep. He had recently been released from jail and
    he introduced some young black guy he met in the bowels of the prison.
    The guy had had a troubled life and had endured privation as a child and ended up in a life of crime. He ministered to the guy and helped him
    find Jesus and salvation. Then he explained how he had come to
    understand why God had put him through that ordeal. God had been
    instrumental in getting Jimmy into the depths of that prison to find
    this guy and help him find Jesus.  I almost puked at that.

    One look at the heavily painted Tammy Faye was enough to make anyone puke.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Janet on Sun Mar 10 15:39:21 2024
    On 2024-03-08 4:29 a.m., Janet wrote:
    In article <65ea8bde$2$3158698
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, g.stereo@shaw.ca says...

    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much.

    !!!!I reckon that was a typo for 5gm (about a
    teaspoonful).


    Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.

    I might tie most of the lavender in muslin,( like I do
    for the pips of Seville oranges), then discard later. Just
    have a few buds visible in the jars. I buy muslin squares
    from Lakeland.

    Janet UK


    That's a good idea! I had the pips in a muslin bag during the cooking.
    BTW I use temperature to determine the setting point. Where you live,
    close to sea level, the setting temperature for jams is about 105/106C.
    Here, water boils at 96C so jam setting point is about 101/102C.
    I've never had much luck with the wrinkle test on a cold plate.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Graham on Sun Mar 10 17:57:04 2024
    On 2024-03-10 5:41 p.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-08 10:13 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    . He ministered to the guy and
    helped him find Jesus and salvation. Then he explained how he had come
    to understand why God had put him through that ordeal. God had been
    instrumental in getting Jimmy into the depths of that prison to find
    this guy and help him find Jesus.  I almost puked at that.

    One look at the heavily painted Tammy Faye was enough to make anyone puke.


    I recently watched The Eyes of Tammy Faye. It's worth watching.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Sun Mar 10 15:55:58 2024
    On 2024-03-08 6:36 a.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 13:28:22 +0000, gregorymorrow@msn.com (GM) wrote:

    Graham wrote:

    On 2024-03-07 9:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again. >>>>
    Well, that's a shame and that's a LOT of marmalade to go into the trash. >>
    I'll eat some of it but I have friends who raved about some I made
    2 years ago and several jars were intended for them but this batch is
    certainly not gift-worthy.
    "Oh, well" as Ned Kelly said as he was about to be hanged:-(


    God spoiled your marmalade because you are a filthy blasphemous atheist, Graham...

    O:-)

    Congratulations Graham! You displeased their imaginary figure head :)

    What did you expect from Greg who thinks the sun shines out of Trump's arse.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Graham on Sun Mar 10 21:59:25 2024
    On 2024-03-10, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
    On 2024-03-08 2:28 p.m., Janet wrote:
    In article <S4LGN.407639$Ama9.154393@fx12.iad>,


    When I was in primary school, the inside back cover of
    every excercise book was printed with the imperial
    measures, like this

    https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/299982025154725677/

    we learned the ones for weight, length, area by heart and
    could chant them by rote, just like multiplication tables.
    Mental arithmetic featured questions like

    "Bob walked five furlongs to town, how many yards did he
    travel?His speed was 3 miles per hour, how long did it
    take? At the shop he bought six ounces of sugar. Sugar
    costs 1s/10d per pound, how much change did he get from
    half a crown."


    Janet UK

    And we were still taught words like "byre".

    I've never had a use for "byre".

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Graham on Mon Mar 11 09:08:24 2024
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 15:41:44 -0600, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-03-08 10:13 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-08 11:30 a.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 14:38:16 +0000, gregorymorrow@msn.com (GM) wrote:


    Remember - here in the States even our currency is emblazoned with
    "In God We Trust"...!!!

    ;-D

    No, when I hear the so-called saintly sorts a la Jimmy Bakker, I know
    if there really is anything after death, I would hate to join them. Be
    far more fun in hell.


    One day I was channel surfing and stopped at a religious program when I
    spotted that slimey creep. He had recently been released from jail and
    he introduced some young black guy he met in the bowels of the prison.
    The guy had had a troubled life and had endured privation as a child and
    ended up in a life of crime. He ministered to the guy and helped him
    find Jesus and salvation. Then he explained how he had come to
    understand why God had put him through that ordeal. God had been
    instrumental in getting Jimmy into the depths of that prison to find
    this guy and help him find Jesus.  I almost puked at that.

    One look at the heavily painted Tammy Faye was enough to make anyone puke.

    A circus clown: <https://www.historyhit.com/app/uploads/2023/01/Tammy-Faye-Bakker-Cover-Image.jpg>

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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to Graham on Sun Mar 10 22:49:22 2024
    On 10/03/2024 21:15, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-08 2:28 p.m., Janet wrote:
    In article <S4LGN.407639$Ama9.154393@fx12.iad>,


        When I was in primary school, the inside back cover of
    every  excercise book was printed with the imperial
    measures, like this

       https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/299982025154725677/

    we learned the ones for weight, length, area by heart  and
    could chant them by rote, just like multiplication tables.
    Mental arithmetic featured questions like

    "Bob walked five furlongs to  town, how many yards did he
    travel?His speed was 3 miles per hour, how long did it
    take? At the shop he bought six ounces of sugar. Sugar
    costs 1s/10d per pound, how much change did he get from
    half a crown."


       Janet UK
    And we were still taught words like "byre".

    I would expect so!
    That word is still in common use.

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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sun Mar 10 23:05:00 2024
    On 10/03/2024 21:59, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-10, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    And we were still taught words like "byre".

    I've never had a use for "byre".

    Ye dinnae bide on a fairm.
    The byre is whaur the kine bide.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to firstname@lastname.oc.ku on Mon Mar 11 10:31:56 2024
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 23:05:00 +0000, S Viemeister
    <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:

    On 10/03/2024 21:59, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-10, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    And we were still taught words like "byre".

    I've never had a use for "byre".

    Ye dinnae bide on a fairm.
    The byre is whaur the kine bide.

    Maybe someone can go and try this on a Texan cattle farmer.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to S Viemeister on Sun Mar 10 19:34:46 2024
    On 2024-03-10 7:05 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 10/03/2024 21:59, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-10, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    And we were still taught words like "byre".

    I've never had a use for "byre".

    Ye dinnae bide on a fairm.
    The byre is whaur the kine bide.



    Maybe it is because I had to study Chaucer or some sort of innate
    understanding of Gaelic from my distant Scottish ancestry, but I was
    actually able to translate that into something I understood.

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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sun Mar 10 23:39:38 2024
    On 10/03/2024 23:34, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-10 7:05 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 10/03/2024 21:59, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-10, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    And we were still taught words like "byre".

    I've never had a use for "byre".

    Ye dinnae bide on a fairm.
    The byre is whaur the kine bide.



    Maybe it is because I had to study Chaucer or some sort of innate understanding of Gaelic from my distant Scottish ancestry, but I was
    actually able to translate that into something I understood.

    Yon wisnae Gaelic. It's Scots.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to S Viemeister on Sun Mar 10 19:47:04 2024
    On 2024-03-10 7:39 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 10/03/2024 23:34, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-10 7:05 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 10/03/2024 21:59, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-10, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    And we were still taught words like "byre".

    I've never had a use for "byre".

    Ye dinnae bide on a fairm.
    The byre is whaur the kine bide.



    Maybe it is because I had to study Chaucer or some sort of innate
    understanding of Gaelic from my distant Scottish ancestry, but I was
    actually able to translate that into something I understood.

    Yon wisnae Gaelic. It's Scots.


    Okay.... basically gibberish either way.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to adavid.smith@sympatico.ca on Mon Mar 11 11:12:06 2024
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 19:47:04 -0400, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-03-10 7:39 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 10/03/2024 23:34, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-10 7:05 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 10/03/2024 21:59, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-10, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    And we were still taught words like "byre".

    I've never had a use for "byre".

    Ye dinnae bide on a fairm.
    The byre is whaur the kine bide.



    Maybe it is because I had to study Chaucer or some sort of innate
    understanding of Gaelic from my distant Scottish ancestry, but I was
    actually able to translate that into something I understood.

    Yon wisnae Gaelic. It's Scots.

    Okay.... basically gibberish either way.

    Dave suddenly went downhill fast.

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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sun Mar 10 23:56:16 2024
    On 10/03/2024 23:47, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-10 7:39 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 10/03/2024 23:34, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-10 7:05 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 10/03/2024 21:59, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-10, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    And we were still taught words like "byre".

    I've never had a use for "byre".

    Ye dinnae bide on a fairm.
    The byre is whaur the kine bide.

    Maybe it is because I had to study Chaucer or some sort of innate
    understanding of Gaelic from my distant Scottish ancestry, but I was
    actually able to translate that into something I understood.

    Yon wisnae Gaelic. It's Scots.

    Okay.... basically gibberish either way.

    Only to monoglots.

    This is what that Scot's sentence would be in Gaelic -

    'S e am bàthach far a bheil a' chrodh a' fuireach.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to S Viemeister on Sun Mar 10 20:22:18 2024
    On 2024-03-10 7:56 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 10/03/2024 23:47, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-10 7:39 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 10/03/2024 23:34, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-10 7:05 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 10/03/2024 21:59, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-10, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    And we were still taught words like "byre".

    I've never had a use for "byre".

    Ye dinnae bide on a fairm.
    The byre is whaur the kine bide.

    Maybe it is because I had to study Chaucer or some sort of innate
    understanding of Gaelic from my distant Scottish ancestry, but I was
    actually able to translate that into something I understood.

    Yon wisnae Gaelic. It's Scots.

    Okay.... basically gibberish either way.

    Only to monoglots.

    This is what that Scot's sentence would be in Gaelic -

    'S e am bàthach far a bheil a' chrodh a' fuireach.




    and .... FWIW there are a number of countries in Europe where you can
    get by in English because so many of the locals speak it. They know that
    it is a big world and that English is an international language. They
    know that few people are going to invest the time and energy into
    learning their language because so few people speak it. The Dutch,
    Danes, Swedes, Norwegians, Estonians, Latvians and Lithuanians all buy
    into that. They like to have their native language, but they all learn
    the more commonly used modern languages.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to S Viemeister on Sun Mar 10 20:18:18 2024
    On 2024-03-10 7:56 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 10/03/2024 23:47, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-10 7:39 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 10/03/2024 23:34, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-10 7:05 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 10/03/2024 21:59, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-10, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    And we were still taught words like "byre".

    I've never had a use for "byre".

    Ye dinnae bide on a fairm.
    The byre is whaur the kine bide.

    Maybe it is because I had to study Chaucer or some sort of innate
    understanding of Gaelic from my distant Scottish ancestry, but I was
    actually able to translate that into something I understood.

    Yon wisnae Gaelic. It's Scots.

    Okay.... basically gibberish either way.

    Only to monoglots.

    This is what that Scot's sentence would be in Gaelic -

    'S e am bàthach far a bheil a' chrodh a' fuireach.


    There are hundreds if languages in the world and billions of people who
    are bilingual or multilingual. Not speaking one of those many languages
    does not make one a monoglot. While my language skills are diminished
    from lack of use I used to be able to communicate enough to have simple conversations in French and German.


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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to adavid.smith@sympatico.ca on Mon Mar 11 11:51:40 2024
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 20:18:18 -0400, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-03-10 7:56 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 10/03/2024 23:47, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-10 7:39 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 10/03/2024 23:34, Dave Smith wrote:

    Maybe it is because I had to study Chaucer or some sort of innate
    understanding of Gaelic from my distant Scottish ancestry, but I was >>>>> actually able to translate that into something I understood.

    Yon wisnae Gaelic. It's Scots.

    Okay.... basically gibberish either way.

    Only to monoglots.

    This is what that Scot's sentence would be in Gaelic -

    'S e am bàthach far a bheil a' chrodh a' fuireach.

    There are hundreds if languages in the world and billions of people who
    are bilingual or multilingual. Not speaking one of those many languages
    does not make one a monoglot. While my language skills are diminished
    from lack of use I used to be able to communicate enough to have simple >conversations in French and German.

    That's not being bilingual or multilingual. Besides, "simple
    conversations" should probably be replaced with "a few words".

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  • From GM@21:1/5 to Graham on Mon Mar 11 00:38:10 2024
    Graham wrote:

    On 2024-03-08 6:36 a.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 13:28:22 +0000, gregorymorrow@msn.com (GM) wrote:

    Graham wrote:

    On 2024-03-07 9:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again. >>>>>
    Well, that's a shame and that's a LOT of marmalade to go into the trash. >>>
    I'll eat some of it but I have friends who raved about some I made
    2 years ago and several jars were intended for them but this batch is
    certainly not gift-worthy.
    "Oh, well" as Ned Kelly said as he was about to be hanged:-(


    God spoiled your marmalade because you are a filthy blasphemous atheist, Graham...

    O:-)

    Congratulations Graham! You displeased their imaginary figure head :)

    What did you expect from Greg who thinks the sun shines out of Trump's arse.


    :-P

    --
    GM

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to adavid.smith@sympatico.ca on Mon Mar 11 11:53:39 2024
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 20:22:18 -0400, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-03-10 7:56 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 10/03/2024 23:47, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-10 7:39 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:

    Yon wisnae Gaelic. It's Scots.

    Okay.... basically gibberish either way.

    Only to monoglots.

    This is what that Scot's sentence would be in Gaelic -

    'S e am bàthach far a bheil a' chrodh a' fuireach.

    and .... FWIW there are a number of countries in Europe where you can
    get by in English because so many of the locals speak it. They know that
    it is a big world and that English is an international language. They
    know that few people are going to invest the time and energy into
    learning their language because so few people speak it. The Dutch,
    Danes, Swedes, Norwegians, Estonians, Latvians and Lithuanians all buy
    into that. They like to have their native language, but they all learn
    the more commonly used modern languages.

    I don't know much about the Baltic states, but Dutch, Danish, Swedish
    and Norwegian are modern languages.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sun Mar 10 21:19:07 2024
    On 3/10/2024 8:22 PM, Dave Smith wrote:



    and .... FWIW there are a number of countries in Europe where you can
    get by in English because so many of the locals speak it. They know that
    it is a big world and that English is an international language. They
    know that few people are going to invest the time and energy into
    learning their language because so few people speak it. The Dutch,
    Danes, Swedes, Norwegians, Estonians, Latvians and Lithuanians all buy
    into that. They like to have their native language, but they all learn
    the more commonly used modern languages.


    Times have changed. When my grandfather was in Poland, he spoke six
    languages and it was fairly common since the countries were close and
    some similarity of language. In the US, not so much.

    In high school,my grades were good so I had Latin. I wanted to take
    Spanish but that was the lower classes, notch below French. I've yet
    met anyone speaking Latin,but often could use French.

    I've made a few trips to Italy and know a few words, but my wife grew up
    with it in her house. Even so, English is spoken in the more touristy
    areas.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Ed P on Mon Mar 11 12:45:23 2024
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 21:19:07 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    On 3/10/2024 8:22 PM, Dave Smith wrote:



    and .... FWIW there are a number of countries in Europe where you can
    get by in English because so many of the locals speak it. They know that
    it is a big world and that English is an international language. They
    know that few people are going to invest the time and energy into
    learning their language because so few people speak it. The Dutch,
    Danes, Swedes, Norwegians, Estonians, Latvians and Lithuanians all buy
    into that. They like to have their native language, but they all learn
    the more commonly used modern languages.


    Times have changed. When my grandfather was in Poland, he spoke six >languages and it was fairly common since the countries were close and
    some similarity of language. In the US, not so much.

    In high school,my grades were good so I had Latin. I wanted to take
    Spanish but that was the lower classes, notch below French. I've yet
    met anyone speaking Latin,but often could use French.

    I've made a few trips to Italy and know a few words, but my wife grew up
    with it in her house. Even so, English is spoken in the more touristy
    areas.

    Let's enjoy it. If we live long enough, we'll all have to learn
    Mandarin.

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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to Bruce on Mon Mar 11 01:54:04 2024
    On 11/03/2024 01:45, Bruce wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 21:19:07 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    Times have changed. When my grandfather was in Poland, he spoke six
    languages and it was fairly common since the countries were close and
    some similarity of language. In the US, not so much.

    In high school,my grades were good so I had Latin. I wanted to take
    Spanish but that was the lower classes, notch below French. I've yet
    met anyone speaking Latin,but often could use French.

    I've made a few trips to Italy and know a few words, but my wife grew up
    with it in her house. Even so, English is spoken in the more touristy
    areas.

    Let's enjoy it. If we live long enough, we'll all have to learn
    Mandarin.

    One of my nieces lived in China for a few years, teaching English and
    learning Mandarin. I'll ask her to translate for me.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to firstname@lastname.oc.ku on Mon Mar 11 13:54:44 2024
    On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 01:54:04 +0000, S Viemeister
    <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:

    On 11/03/2024 01:45, Bruce wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 21:19:07 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    Times have changed. When my grandfather was in Poland, he spoke six
    languages and it was fairly common since the countries were close and
    some similarity of language. In the US, not so much.

    In high school,my grades were good so I had Latin. I wanted to take
    Spanish but that was the lower classes, notch below French. I've yet
    met anyone speaking Latin,but often could use French.

    I've made a few trips to Italy and know a few words, but my wife grew up >>> with it in her house. Even so, English is spoken in the more touristy
    areas.

    Let's enjoy it. If we live long enough, we'll all have to learn
    Mandarin.

    One of my nieces lived in China for a few years, teaching English and >learning Mandarin. I'll ask her to translate for me.

    Yes, she'll be a busy woman.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to S Viemeister on Sun Mar 10 22:02:19 2024
    On 2024-03-10 4:49 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 10/03/2024 21:15, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-08 2:28 p.m., Janet wrote:
    In article <S4LGN.407639$Ama9.154393@fx12.iad>,


        When I was in primary school, the inside back cover of
    every  excercise book was printed with the imperial
    measures, like this

       https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/299982025154725677/

    we learned the ones for weight, length, area by heart  and
    could chant them by rote, just like multiplication tables.
    Mental arithmetic featured questions like

    "Bob walked five furlongs to  town, how many yards did he
    travel?His speed was 3 miles per hour, how long did it
    take? At the shop he bought six ounces of sugar. Sugar
    costs 1s/10d per pound, how much change did he get from
    half a crown."


       Janet UK
    And we were still taught words like "byre".

    I would expect so!
    That word is still in common use.
    Where?
    Not in the farming community I come from.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Mon Mar 11 08:27:25 2024
    On 2024-03-10, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2024-03-10 7:05 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 10/03/2024 21:59, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-10, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    And we were still taught words like "byre".

    I've never had a use for "byre".

    Ye dinnae bide on a fairm.
    The byre is whaur the kine bide.



    Maybe it is because I had to study Chaucer or some sort of innate understanding of Gaelic from my distant Scottish ancestry, but I was
    actually able to translate that into something I understood.

    I didn't have any trouble with it, either. I suspect it's because
    I'll read almost anything, and remember much of what I read.

    Or it could be the folk music.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Ed P on Mon Mar 11 08:31:43 2024
    On 2024-03-11, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
    On 3/10/2024 8:22 PM, Dave Smith wrote:



    and .... FWIW there are a number of countries in Europe where you can
    get by in English because so many of the locals speak it. They know that
    it is a big world and that English is an international language. They
    know that few people are going to invest the time and energy into
    learning their language because so few people speak it. The Dutch,
    Danes, Swedes, Norwegians, Estonians, Latvians and Lithuanians all buy
    into that. They like to have their native language, but they all learn
    the more commonly used modern languages.


    Times have changed. When my grandfather was in Poland, he spoke six languages and it was fairly common since the countries were close and
    some similarity of language. In the US, not so much.

    What's that quote from The Dirty Dozen? "My old man came from Silesia.
    He didn't speak German, he didn't dig coal. If he didn't dig coal, he
    didn't eat."

    In high school,my grades were good so I had Latin. I wanted to take
    Spanish but that was the lower classes, notch below French. I've yet
    met anyone speaking Latin,but often could use French.

    I studied German in high school. I wish I'd taken Spanish.

    Since I went to public school, there was no academic requirement to
    take any language. But it was mostly the college-bound who bothered
    to take it; hence, filtering on grades was kind of baked in.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to Graham on Mon Mar 11 12:32:18 2024
    On 11/03/2024 04:02, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-10 4:49 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 10/03/2024 21:15, Graham wrote:
       Janet UK
    And we were still taught words like "byre".

    I would expect so!
    That word is still in common use.
    Where?
    Not in the farming community I come from.

    In Scotland.

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 11 14:34:43 2024
    In article <65ee2d3d$0$4623$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
    hamilton@invalid.com says...

    On 2024-03-10, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
    On 2024-03-08 2:28 p.m., Janet wrote:
    In article <S4LGN.407639$Ama9.154393@fx12.iad>,


    When I was in primary school, the inside back cover of
    every excercise book was printed with the imperial
    measures, like this

    https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/299982025154725677/

    we learned the ones for weight, length, area by heart and
    could chant them by rote, just like multiplication tables.
    Mental arithmetic featured questions like

    "Bob walked five furlongs to town, how many yards did he
    travel?His speed was 3 miles per hour, how long did it
    take? At the shop he bought six ounces of sugar. Sugar
    costs 1s/10d per pound, how much change did he get from
    half a crown."


    Janet UK

    And we were still taught words like "byre".

    I've never had a use for "byre".

    Somebody offered me a manger only last week.

    Janet UK

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 11 14:33:23 2024
    In article <65ee22ea$0$2137431
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, g.stereo@shaw.ca says...

    On 2024-03-08 2:28 p.m., Janet wrote:
    In article <S4LGN.407639$Ama9.154393@fx12.iad>,


    When I was in primary school, the inside back cover of
    every excercise book was printed with the imperial
    measures, like this

    https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/299982025154725677/

    we learned the ones for weight, length, area by heart and
    could chant them by rote, just like multiplication tables.
    Mental arithmetic featured questions like

    "Bob walked five furlongs to town, how many yards did he
    travel?His speed was 3 miles per hour, how long did it
    take? At the shop he bought six ounces of sugar. Sugar
    costs 1s/10d per pound, how much change did he get from
    half a crown."


    Janet UK

    And we were still taught words like "byre".

    I should hope they still are. Where else would they
    keep the kye?

    Janet UK

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to Graham on Mon Mar 11 14:48:33 2024
    Graham wrote:

    On 2024-03-08 2:28 p.m., Janet wrote:
    In article <S4LGN.407639$Ama9.154393@fx12.iad>,


    When I was in primary school, the inside back cover of
    every excercise book was printed with the imperial
    measures, like this

    https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/299982025154725677/

    we learned the ones for weight, length, area by heart and
    could chant them by rote, just like multiplication tables.
    Mental arithmetic featured questions like

    "Bob walked five furlongs to town, how many yards did he
    travel?His speed was 3 miles per hour, how long did it
    take? At the shop he bought six ounces of sugar. Sugar
    costs 1s/10d per pound, how much change did he get from
    half a crown."


    Janet UK

    And we were still taught words like "byre".

    Sho nuff! That's how ya gets a lady to be 'merrian ya!', Yaz jus'
    gotta byre a ring!

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Mon Mar 11 14:58:58 2024
    Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2024-03-10 7:05 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 10/03/2024 21:59, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-10, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    And we were still taught words like "byre".

    I've never had a use for "byre".

    Ye dinnae bide on a fairm.
    The byre is whaur the kine bide.



    Maybe it is because I had to study Chaucer or some sort of innate understanding of Gaelic from my distant Scottish ancestry, but I was
    actually able to translate that into something I understood.

    It's easy actually. Then again, us mountain folks retained a lot of it
    in common use. Seriously, we did. It's why out of 86 women in my Navy
    boot camp, my moniker was 'the mouth from the south'.

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 11 14:56:55 2024
    In article <65ee824a$0$2137416
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, g.stereo@shaw.ca says...

    On 2024-03-10 4:49 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 10/03/2024 21:15, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-08 2:28 p.m., Janet wrote:
    In article <S4LGN.407639$Ama9.154393@fx12.iad>,


        When I was in primary school, the inside back cover of
    every  excercise book was printed with the imperial
    measures, like this

       https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/299982025154725677/

    we learned the ones for weight, length, area by heart  and
    could chant them by rote, just like multiplication tables.
    Mental arithmetic featured questions like

    "Bob walked five furlongs to  town, how many yards did he
    travel?His speed was 3 miles per hour, how long did it
    take? At the shop he bought six ounces of sugar. Sugar
    costs 1s/10d per pound, how much change did he get from
    half a crown."


       Janet UK
    And we were still taught words like "byre".

    I would expect so!
    That word is still in common use.
    Where?

    Anywhere in Scotland Ireland, Wales, the north of
    England. Even Suffolk.

    https://www.visiteastofengland.com/accommodation/the-
    suffolk-byre

    The passive vocabulary of any educated reader of British
    history and literature would recognise and understand it.

    Janet UK

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 11 15:01:05 2024
    In article <65ee2889$0$2137416
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, g.stereo@shaw.ca says...

    On 2024-03-08 4:29 a.m., Janet wrote:
    In article <65ea8bde$2$3158698
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, g.stereo@shaw.ca says...

    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much.

    !!!!I reckon that was a typo for 5gm (about a
    teaspoonful).


    Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.

    I might tie most of the lavender in muslin,( like I do
    for the pips of Seville oranges), then discard later. Just
    have a few buds visible in the jars. I buy muslin squares
    from Lakeland.

    Janet UK


    That's a good idea! I had the pips in a muslin bag during the cooking.
    BTW I use temperature to determine the setting point. Where you live,
    close to sea level, the setting temperature for jams is about 105/106C.

    I wouldn't know, I've not got/never needed a sugar
    thermometer.

    Here, water boils at 96C so jam setting point is about 101/102C.
    I've never had much luck with the wrinkle test on a cold plate.

    That's the only method I ever use and it never fails. I
    put a little stack of china plates/saucers in the freezer
    for testing the wrinkle.

    Janet UK

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 11 15:02:25 2024
    In article <65ee28cf$4$2137424
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, g.stereo@shaw.ca says...

    On 2024-03-08 6:47 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-07 10:54 p.m., Graham wrote:
    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.


    Ouch. That is a shame. That can be a problem with had aromatics to
    things. Sometimes the taste is too much. I have that problem when I use rosemary. I like a little but but it doesn't take much to overwhelm it. Then there is thyme, which I have come to accept that I just don't care
    for at all.

    After multiple tastings, The flavour is just too strong - and I like lavender!

    Bottle it and give away as bath fragrance/skin softener.

    Janet UK

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Mon Mar 11 15:13:16 2024
    Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2024-03-10 7:39 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 10/03/2024 23:34, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-10 7:05 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 10/03/2024 21:59, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-10, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    And we were still taught words like "byre".

    I've never had a use for "byre".

    Ye dinnae bide on a fairm.
    The byre is whaur the kine bide.



    Maybe it is because I had to study Chaucer or some sort of innate understanding of Gaelic from my distant Scottish ancestry, but I
    was actually able to translate that into something I understood.

    Yon wisnae Gaelic. It's Scots.


    Okay.... basically gibberish either way.

    Snicker, neato! Now Sheila and I can hold a private conversation with
    you none the wiser!

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to S Viemeister on Mon Mar 11 15:11:18 2024
    S Viemeister wrote:

    On 10/03/2024 23:34, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-10 7:05 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 10/03/2024 21:59, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-03-10, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    And we were still taught words like "byre".

    I've never had a use for "byre".

    Ye dinnae bide on a fairm.
    The byre is whaur the kine bide.



    Maybe it is because I had to study Chaucer or some sort of innate understanding of Gaelic from my distant Scottish ancestry, but I
    was actually able to translate that into something I understood.

    Yon wisnae Gaelic. It's Scots.

    I was thinking same. A lot of Scots mixed with 1600's English settled
    around the area. Some of it stuck.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to cshenk@virginia-beach.net on Tue Mar 12 03:44:29 2024
    On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 15:13:16 +0000, "cshenk"
    <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:

    Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2024-03-10 7:39 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 10/03/2024 23:34, Dave Smith wrote:

    Maybe it is because I had to study Chaucer or some sort of innate
    understanding of Gaelic from my distant Scottish ancestry, but I
    was actually able to translate that into something I understood.

    Yon wisnae Gaelic. It's Scots.


    Okay.... basically gibberish either way.

    Snicker, neato! Now Sheila and I can hold a private conversation with
    you none the wiser!

    Somehow I doubt it (your part).

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Janet on Mon Mar 11 14:19:21 2024
    On 2024-03-11 9:01 a.m., Janet wrote:
    In article <65ee2889$0$2137416
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, g.stereo@shaw.ca says...

    On 2024-03-08 4:29 a.m., Janet wrote:
    In article <65ea8bde$2$3158698
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, g.stereo@shaw.ca says...

    I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
    a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
    but that was waaaaay too much.

    !!!!I reckon that was a typo for 5gm (about a
    teaspoonful).


    Between 5 and 10 would have been
    sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
    but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
    bites on.
    So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.

    I might tie most of the lavender in muslin,( like I do
    for the pips of Seville oranges), then discard later. Just
    have a few buds visible in the jars. I buy muslin squares
    from Lakeland.

    Janet UK


    That's a good idea! I had the pips in a muslin bag during the cooking.
    BTW I use temperature to determine the setting point. Where you live,
    close to sea level, the setting temperature for jams is about 105/106C.

    I wouldn't know, I've not got/never needed a sugar
    thermometer.

    Here, water boils at 96C so jam setting point is about 101/102C.
    I've never had much luck with the wrinkle test on a cold plate.

    That's the only method I ever use and it never fails. I
    put a little stack of china plates/saucers in the freezer
    for testing the wrinkle.

    Janet UK
    I've had mixed results making macarons with Italian meringue. I now
    realise that I have been using sea level temperature recipes for the
    soft-ball stage syrup and it is closer to hard ball at this altitude.

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Graham on Mon Mar 11 17:01:08 2024
    On 3/10/2024 5:41 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-08 10:13 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-08 11:30 a.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    No, when I hear the so-called saintly sorts a la Jimmy Bakker, I know
    if there really is anything after death, I would hate to join them. Be
    far more fun in hell.


    One day I was channel surfing and stopped at a religious program when
    I spotted that slimey creep. He had recently been released from jail
    and he introduced some young black guy he met in the bowels of the
    prison. The guy had had a troubled life and had endured privation as a
    child and ended up in a life of crime. He ministered to the guy and
    helped him find Jesus and salvation. Then he explained how he had come
    to understand why God had put him through that ordeal. God had been
    instrumental in getting Jimmy into the depths of that prison to find
    this guy and help him find Jesus.  I almost puked at that.

    One look at the heavily painted Tammy Faye was enough to make anyone puke.

    Coincidentally, one of the cable channels aired a movie called "The Eyes
    of Tammy Faye" last Saturday. If there was any truth to it, Tammy Faye
    had her eyes permanently lined (tattooed) so her eyeliner wouldn't run
    when she cried on camera. The eyelashes, of course, were fake.

    Jill

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Mon Mar 11 17:02:33 2024
    On 3/10/2024 5:57 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-10 5:41 p.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-08 10:13 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    . He ministered to the guy and
    helped him find Jesus and salvation. Then he explained how he had
    come to understand why God had put him through that ordeal. God had
    been instrumental in getting Jimmy into the depths of that prison to
    find this guy and help him find Jesus.  I almost puked at that.

    One look at the heavily painted Tammy Faye was enough to make anyone
    puke.


    I recently watched The Eyes of Tammy Faye. It's worth watching.

    Damn, Dave. I wish I'd read your post first; I just posted about that
    same movie! I saw it last Saturday on FXM or some such cable movie channel.

    Jill

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Mon Mar 11 17:33:01 2024
    On 2024-03-11 5:02 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/10/2024 5:57 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-10 5:41 p.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-08 10:13 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    . He ministered to the guy and
    helped him find Jesus and salvation. Then he explained how he had
    come to understand why God had put him through that ordeal. God had
    been instrumental in getting Jimmy into the depths of that prison to
    find this guy and help him find Jesus.  I almost puked at that.

    One look at the heavily painted Tammy Faye was enough to make anyone
    puke.


    I recently watched The Eyes of Tammy Faye. It's worth watching.

    Damn, Dave.  I wish I'd read your post first; I just posted about that
    same movie!  I saw it last Saturday on FXM or some such cable movie
    channel.


    I don't know about you, but I thought it was a surprisingly good movie.

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Mon Mar 11 21:45:34 2024
    On 2024-03-11, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

    I studied German in high school. I wish I'd taken Spanish.


    I took Spanish in high school, and because of my major, had to take
    German in college. I know little of either language anymore but way more Spanish than German.
    I hated German sentence structure! The action all took place at the end
    of the sentence IIRC. We, to the mountains, on a winding road, went.
    Correct me, Bruce.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Mon Mar 11 15:59:23 2024
    On 2024-03-11 2:31 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:


    Since I went to public school, there was no academic requirement to
    take any language. But it was mostly the college-bound who bothered
    to take it; hence, filtering on grades was kind of baked in.

    I had to have a grade 12 equivalent in a modern language, in my case
    French, in order to go to uni.
    That requirement was dropped a year or so later.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Mon Mar 11 18:29:20 2024
    On 2024-03-11 5:45 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2024-03-11, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

    I studied German in high school. I wish I'd taken Spanish.


    I took Spanish in high school, and because of my major, had to take
    German in college. I know little of either language anymore but way more Spanish than German.
    I hated German sentence structure! The action all took place at the end
    of the sentence IIRC. We, to the mountains, on a winding road, went.
    Correct me, Bruce.


    I started French in Gr 7, which was a couple years earlier than it
    started in most schools up here, and I took it all the way through high
    school. My started taking German in Gr. 10. My best friend was German
    and his family were polite enough to speak English when I was there but
    they spoke enough German around me that I absorbed a lot of it before I actually studied it. While I have have much larger vocabulary in French
    I usually need a few days before I start hearing it clearly. My
    vocabulary in German is lot more limited I at least hear the words clearly.


    My son started learning French in Gr. 5 and when he was in Gr. 7 we sent
    him on an exchange to Quebec. He spent two weeks up there and we had a
    French kid here for two weeks. In high school he did well in French and
    went on a school trip to Paris. He ended up attending university in
    Montreal and worked his way through school working in French. He
    eventually got a bilingual position with the federal government. It's a
    good deal for him because he gets a bonus for being bilingual. He has
    worked at learning Spanish. Over the last 10 years he has been to Cuba, Columbia, Pere and Bolovia and has picked up a lot of Spanish. I have
    been with him in Mexican and Peruvian restaurants where he had
    conversations with the staff and was obviously quite fluent.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net on Tue Mar 12 09:37:13 2024
    On 11 Mar 2024 21:45:34 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
    <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 2024-03-11, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

    I studied German in high school. I wish I'd taken Spanish.

    I took Spanish in high school, and because of my major, had to take
    German in college. I know little of either language anymore but way more >Spanish than German.
    I hated German sentence structure! The action all took place at the end
    of the sentence IIRC. We, to the mountains, on a winding road, went.
    Correct me, Bruce.

    German and English are a lot more related than Spanish and English, so
    you'd think German would feel more familiar to you.

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Mon Mar 11 19:09:46 2024
    On 3/11/2024 5:33 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-11 5:02 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 3/10/2024 5:57 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-03-10 5:41 p.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2024-03-08 10:13 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    . He ministered to the guy and
    helped him find Jesus and salvation. Then he explained how he had
    come to understand why God had put him through that ordeal. God had
    been instrumental in getting Jimmy into the depths of that prison
    to find this guy and help him find Jesus.  I almost puked at that.

    One look at the heavily painted Tammy Faye was enough to make anyone
    puke.


    I recently watched The Eyes of Tammy Faye. It's worth watching.

    Damn, Dave.  I wish I'd read your post first; I just posted about that
    same movie!  I saw it last Saturday on FXM or some such cable movie
    channel.


     I don't know about you, but I thought it was a surprisingly good movie.

    It was surprisingly good. Yes, I watched it because it showed up after
    the mention of the Bakker's here and there wasn't much on TV that
    afternoon. LOL The entire Bakker philosophy about GOD not wanting
    people to be poor, therefore GOD should enrich the two of them so they
    could spread HIS word, didn't surprise me at all. Typical evangelicals
    begging for money. The actors who played Jim and Tammy Faye did a very
    good job.

    Jill

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Bruce on Tue Mar 12 09:47:17 2024
    On 2024-03-11, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 11 Mar 2024 21:45:34 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
    <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 2024-03-11, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

    I studied German in high school. I wish I'd taken Spanish.

    I took Spanish in high school, and because of my major, had to take
    German in college. I know little of either language anymore but way more >>Spanish than German.
    I hated German sentence structure! The action all took place at the end
    of the sentence IIRC. We, to the mountains, on a winding road, went. >>Correct me, Bruce.

    German and English are a lot more related than Spanish and English, so
    you'd think German would feel more familiar to you.

    I certainly found that to be the case. And the systematic study of
    German grammar made my English grammar better.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Tue Mar 12 16:13:58 2024
    Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2024-03-11 5:45 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2024-03-11, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

    I studied German in high school. I wish I'd taken Spanish.


    I took Spanish in high school, and because of my major, had to take
    German in college. I know little of either language anymore but way
    more Spanish than German.
    I hated German sentence structure! The action all took place at the
    end of the sentence IIRC. We, to the mountains, on a winding road,
    went. Correct me, Bruce.


    I started French in Gr 7, which was a couple years earlier than it
    started in most schools up here, and I took it all the way through
    high school. My started taking German in Gr. 10. My best friend was
    German and his family were polite enough to speak English when I was
    there but they spoke enough German around me that I absorbed a lot
    of it before I actually studied it. While I have have much larger
    vocabulary in French I usually need a few days before I start hearing
    it clearly. My vocabulary in German is lot more limited I at least
    hear the words clearly.


    My son started learning French in Gr. 5 and when he was in Gr. 7 we
    sent him on an exchange to Quebec. He spent two weeks up there and we
    had a French kid here for two weeks. In high school he did well in
    French and went on a school trip to Paris. He ended up attending
    university in Montreal and worked his way through school working in
    French. He eventually got a bilingual position with the federal
    government. It's a good deal for him because he gets a bonus for
    being bilingual. He has worked at learning Spanish. Over the last 10
    years he has been to Cuba, Columbia, Pere and Bolovia and has picked
    up a lot of Spanish. I have been with him in Mexican and Peruvian
    restaurants where he had conversations with the staff and was
    obviously quite fluent.

    I moved a lot still then. 7th grade took Latin. Moved and no latin so
    took german. Moved again and it was spanish for 2 years. Later as an
    adult, Japanese 201 and 301.

    Mostly I retained bits of Latin and Spanish but with a Cuban accent due
    to Miami in grade school.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to cshenk@virginia-beach.net on Wed Mar 13 05:01:19 2024
    On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 16:13:58 +0000, "cshenk"
    <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:

    My son started learning French in Gr. 5 and when he was in Gr. 7 we
    sent him on an exchange to Quebec. He spent two weeks up there and we
    had a French kid here for two weeks. In high school he did well in
    French and went on a school trip to Paris. He ended up attending
    university in Montreal and worked his way through school working in
    French. He eventually got a bilingual position with the federal
    government. It's a good deal for him because he gets a bonus for
    being bilingual. He has worked at learning Spanish. Over the last 10
    years he has been to Cuba, Columbia, Pere and Bolovia and has picked
    up a lot of Spanish. I have been with him in Mexican and Peruvian
    restaurants where he had conversations with the staff and was
    obviously quite fluent.

    I moved a lot still then. 7th grade took Latin. Moved and no latin so
    took german. Moved again and it was spanish for 2 years. Later as an
    adult, Japanese 201 and 301.

    Mostly I retained bits of Latin and Spanish but with a Cuban accent due
    to Miami in grade school.

    You speak Latin?

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Tue Mar 19 18:25:07 2024
    On 3/8/2024 3:42 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2024-03-08, Justisaur wrote:

    Not that it matters one whit to anyone else, but I
    can't stand lavender. It smells like rotting roadkill

    Does it remind you of lilac? That's one 'invasive'
    species the way the smell invades the neighborhood
    and mixes with the rotting over-wintered humus smell.

    Both remind me of bathroom / laundry smell from soap &c.


    I'm not sure on lilac. I looked up pictures, and I'm fairly certain
    I've seen one, but I don't remember anything about the smell.

    I like a number of other flowers. Roses, jasmine, cherry come to mind. Geraniums are strong and have some unpleasantness but I don't mind. Unfortunately we've got a lot of fruitless pears around here and I don't
    know anyone who likes that smell. Also known as cum-trees. I like the
    scent of pine, but there was a particular kind at my old work that made
    my eyes start running like I'd been cutting onions when they were
    putting out clouds of yellow pollen that covered everyone's cars.

    --
    -Justisaur

    ø-ø
    (\_/)\
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    \\
    ^'

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