• Re: Do Not Put Hands in Toilet!

    From Bruce@21:1/5 to itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net on Tue Feb 20 15:13:37 2024
    On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 20:04:59 -0800 (PST), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:

    On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 9:35:21 PM UTC-6, Sqwertz wrote:

    I spotted this at my lower extremity orthopedist today when I got
    off on the wrong floor and had to take a pee first.

    https://imgur.com/gallery/dsJueOS

    Common sense has gone to the shitter.

    -sw

    Who'd want to put their hands in the toilet to begin with???

    Maybe if their teeth fell in?

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net on Mon Feb 19 23:26:54 2024
    On 2/19/2024 11:04 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
    On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 9:35:21 PM UTC-6, Sqwertz wrote:

    I spotted this at my lower extremity orthopedist today when I got
    off on the wrong floor and had to take a pee first.

    https://imgur.com/gallery/dsJueOS

    Common sense has gone to the shitter.

    -sw

    Who'd want to put their hands in the toilet to begin with???

    How many cell phones are dropped in the toilet each year?
    And the study suggests that lots of us have lost or damaged items due to
    our toilet habits. Direct Line says that in the last year alone, 1.8
    million people have dropped their mobile phone down the toilet.

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  • From Sqwertz@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 19 21:35:13 2024
    I spotted this at my lower extremity orthopedist today when I got
    off on the wrong floor and had to take a pee first.

    https://imgur.com/gallery/dsJueOS

    Common sense has gone to the shitter.

    -sw

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Ed P on Mon Feb 19 23:05:22 2024
    Ed P wrote:
    On 2/19/2024 11:04 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
    On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 9:35:21 PM UTC-6, Sqwertz wrote:

    I spotted this at my lower extremity orthopedist today when I got
    off on the wrong floor and had to take a pee first.

    https://imgur.com/gallery/dsJueOS

    Common sense has gone to the shitter.

    -sw

    Who'd want to put their hands in the toilet to begin with???

    How many cell phones are dropped in the toilet each year?
    And the study suggests that lots of us have lost or damaged items due to
    our toilet habits. Direct Line says that in the last year alone, 1.8
    million people have dropped their mobile phone down the toilet.

    Lot cheaper to use mr bumpy for that, just in case it gets dropped in the toilet.

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  • From Sqwertz@21:1/5 to Ed P on Tue Feb 20 02:22:43 2024
    On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 23:26:54 -0500, Ed P wrote:

    On 2/19/2024 11:04 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
    On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 9:35:21 PM UTC-6, Sqwertz wrote:

    I spotted this at my lower extremity orthopedist today when I got
    off on the wrong floor and had to take a pee first.

    https://imgur.com/gallery/dsJueOS

    Common sense has gone to the shitter.

    -sw

    Who'd want to put their hands in the toilet to begin with???

    How many cell phones are dropped in the toilet each year?
    And the study suggests that lots of us have lost or damaged items due to
    our toilet habits. Direct Line says that in the last year alone, 1.8
    million people have dropped their mobile phone down the toilet.

    Which is why all toilets have an NFC or bluetooth anti-levitator
    water resistant hardware and firmware installed rather than a
    sharp pointy object at the bottom of the toilet. Am I right,
    David?

    If you drop your phone in the toilet, are you going to read the
    notices on the wall in back of your head before you panic and go
    fishing for it?

    It's your call. But you HAVE been warned now!


    -sw

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net on Tue Feb 20 09:39:50 2024
    On 2024-02-20, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:
    On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 10:27:01 PM UTC-6, Ed P wrote:

    On 2/19/2024 11:04 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

    On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 9:35:21 PM UTC-6, Sqwertz wrote:

    I spotted this at my lower extremity orthopedist today when I got
    off on the wrong floor and had to take a pee first.

    https://imgur.com/gallery/dsJueOS

    Common sense has gone to the shitter.

    -sw

    Who'd want to put their hands in the toilet to begin with???

    How many cell phones are dropped in the toilet each year?
    And the study suggests that lots of us have lost or damaged items due to
    our toilet habits. Direct Line says that in the last year alone, 1.8
    million people have dropped their mobile phone down the toilet.

    Oh ok. I don't take the phone or food or anything with me when I go to the bathroom
    except maybe a catalog to scan while I'm visiting Mrs. Murphy.

    Imagine the millions of people who keep their phone in a pants
    pocket...

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to hamilton@invalid.com on Tue Feb 20 21:03:14 2024
    On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 09:39:50 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
    <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2024-02-20, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:
    On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 10:27:01 PM UTC-6, Ed P wrote:

    On 2/19/2024 11:04 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

    On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 9:35:21 PM UTC-6, Sqwertz wrote:

    I spotted this at my lower extremity orthopedist today when I got
    off on the wrong floor and had to take a pee first.

    https://imgur.com/gallery/dsJueOS

    Common sense has gone to the shitter.

    -sw

    Who'd want to put their hands in the toilet to begin with???

    How many cell phones are dropped in the toilet each year?
    And the study suggests that lots of us have lost or damaged items due to >>> our toilet habits. Direct Line says that in the last year alone, 1.8
    million people have dropped their mobile phone down the toilet.

    Oh ok. I don't take the phone or food or anything with me when I go to the bathroom
    except maybe a catalog to scan while I'm visiting Mrs. Murphy.

    Imagine the millions of people who keep their phone in a pants
    pocket...

    My father used to have, what he called, pants pocket conversations.

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  • From Sqwertz@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Tue Feb 20 04:37:35 2024
    On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 09:39:50 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2024-02-20, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:

    Oh ok. I don't take the phone or food or anything with me when
    I go to the bathroom except maybe a catalog to scan while I'm
    visiting Mrs. Murphy.

    Imagine the millions of people who keep their phone in a pants
    pocket...

    You're answering too late with the obvious which has already been
    pointed out.

    I'm just piggy-backing to find WTF is Mrs. Murphy?!?

    (I'll probably get reamed on this one eh?)

    -sw

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Sqwertz on Tue Feb 20 10:47:45 2024
    On 2/20/2024 5:37 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
    On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 09:39:50 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2024-02-20, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:

    Oh ok. I don't take the phone or food or anything with me when
    I go to the bathroom except maybe a catalog to scan while I'm
    visiting Mrs. Murphy.

    Imagine the millions of people who keep their phone in a pants
    pocket...

    You're answering too late with the obvious which has already been
    pointed out.

    I'm just piggy-backing to find WTF is Mrs. Murphy?!?

    (I'll probably get reamed on this one eh?)

    -sw

    euphemism I visit Mr.s Murphy every morning. That is where I read the Reader's Digest.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Sqwertz on Tue Feb 20 12:46:35 2024
    On 2024-02-19 10:35 p.m., Sqwertz wrote:
    I spotted this at my lower extremity orthopedist today when I got
    off on the wrong floor and had to take a pee first.

    https://imgur.com/gallery/dsJueOS

    Common sense has gone to the shitter.



    After reading several responses to this I remembered an incident years
    ago when my busybody neighbour called up in the afternoon of
    Thanksgiving wondering where our next door neighbour was. This guy was a
    real handyman. Old Olive said that she had dropped her dentures into the
    toilet and could not get them out. My immediate thought was that she had
    just told the wrong person because I knew I could not keep that secret.
    I was also thinking that she might as well order a new set of dentures
    because there isn't enough chlorine in the world to sanitize a set of
    teeth that had gone down there.

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Ed P on Tue Feb 20 19:04:25 2024
    On 2/19/2024 11:26 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 2/19/2024 11:04 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
    On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 9:35:21 PM UTC-6, Sqwertz wrote:

    I spotted this at my lower extremity orthopedist today when I got
    off on the wrong floor and had to take a pee first.

    https://imgur.com/gallery/dsJueOS

    Common sense has gone to the shitter.

    -sw

    Who'd want to put their hands in the toilet to begin with???

    How many cell phones are dropped in the toilet each year?
    And the study suggests that lots of us have lost or damaged items due to
    our toilet habits. Direct Line says that in the last year alone, 1.8
    million people have dropped their mobile phone down the toilet.

    I don't know why people take their phones with them to the toilet in the
    first place. What is so incredibly important a person cannot wait for a
    phone call (or text)? It's ridiculous.

    Jill

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Tue Feb 20 19:10:37 2024
    On 2024-02-20 7:04 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 2/19/2024 11:26 PM, Ed P wrote:
    How many cell phones are dropped in the toilet each year?
    And the study suggests that lots of us have lost or damaged items due
    to our toilet habits. Direct Line says that in the last year alone,
    1.8 million people have dropped their mobile phone down the toilet.

    I don't know why people take their phones with them to the toilet in the first place.  What is so incredibly important a person cannot wait for a phone call (or text)?  It's ridiculous.


    I don't know about you but there is no surer way to get my phone to ring
    than to go to the bathroom and not taking my phone with me. It only has
    to be close enough to access it before it stops ringing.

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Tue Feb 20 19:23:54 2024
    On 2/20/2024 7:10 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-02-20 7:04 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 2/19/2024 11:26 PM, Ed P wrote:
    How many cell phones are dropped in the toilet each year?
    And the study suggests that lots of us have lost or damaged items due
    to our toilet habits. Direct Line says that in the last year alone,
    1.8 million people have dropped their mobile phone down the toilet.

    I don't know why people take their phones with them to the toilet in
    the first place.  What is so incredibly important a person cannot wait
    for a phone call (or text)?  It's ridiculous.


    I don't know about you but there is no surer way to get my phone to ring
    than to go to the bathroom and not taking my phone with me. It only has
    to be close enough to access it before it stops ringing.

    I don't have a cell phone. If I get a call at home when I'm in the
    bathroom they can darn well leave me a message. When I got home from
    work today there was a message from my doctor's office. No biggie, just
    a follow-up reminder to schedule an appointment. I've never found a
    reason to carry a phone into the bathroom, much less possibly drop it in
    the toilet.

    Jill

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Wed Feb 21 01:03:56 2024
    jmcquown wrote:

    On 2/20/2024 7:10 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

    I don't know about you but there is no surer way to get my phone to ring
    than to go to the bathroom and not taking my phone with me. It only has
    to be close enough to access it before it stops ringing.

    I don't have a cell phone. If I get a call at home when I'm in the
    bathroom they can darn well leave me a message. When I got home from
    work today there was a message from my doctor's office. No biggie, just
    a follow-up reminder to schedule an appointment. I've never found a
    reason to carry a phone into the bathroom, much less possibly drop it in
    the toilet.

    Jill

    I have a cell phone, but it stays in my purse and off. But I do have
    several cordless phones scattered around the house, but they don't go
    to the privy with me. Same as you, they can leave a message.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 21 12:41:10 2024
    On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 19:23:54 -0500, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
    wrote:

    On 2/20/2024 7:10 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-02-20 7:04 p.m., jmcquown wrote:

    I don't know why people take their phones with them to the toilet in
    the first place.  What is so incredibly important a person cannot wait
    for a phone call (or text)?  It's ridiculous.


    I don't know about you but there is no surer way to get my phone to ring
    than to go to the bathroom and not taking my phone with me. It only has
    to be close enough to access it before it stops ringing.

    I don't have a cell phone. If I get a call at home when I'm in the
    bathroom they can darn well leave me a message. When I got home from
    work today there was a message from my doctor's office. No biggie, just
    a follow-up reminder to schedule an appointment. I've never found a
    reason to carry a phone into the bathroom, much less possibly drop it in
    the toilet.

    News flash: Not everybody is like Jill McQuown.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Wed Feb 21 10:06:42 2024
    On 2024-02-21, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 2/20/2024 7:10 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-02-20 7:04 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 2/19/2024 11:26 PM, Ed P wrote:
    How many cell phones are dropped in the toilet each year?
    And the study suggests that lots of us have lost or damaged items due
    to our toilet habits. Direct Line says that in the last year alone,
    1.8 million people have dropped their mobile phone down the toilet.

    I don't know why people take their phones with them to the toilet in
    the first place.  What is so incredibly important a person cannot wait
    for a phone call (or text)?  It's ridiculous.


    I don't know about you but there is no surer way to get my phone to ring
    than to go to the bathroom and not taking my phone with me. It only has
    to be close enough to access it before it stops ringing.

    I don't have a cell phone. If I get a call at home when I'm in the
    bathroom they can darn well leave me a message. When I got home from
    work today there was a message from my doctor's office. No biggie, just
    a follow-up reminder to schedule an appointment. I've never found a
    reason to carry a phone into the bathroom, much less possibly drop it in
    the toilet.

    I take it you don't put things in your pants pockets. If you wear
    pants. If they have pockets. I don't wear skirts or dresses and
    I make sure all my pants have pockets.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Wed Feb 21 10:05:35 2024
    On 2024-02-21, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 2/19/2024 11:26 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 2/19/2024 11:04 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
    On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 9:35:21 PM UTC-6, Sqwertz wrote:

    I spotted this at my lower extremity orthopedist today when I got
    off on the wrong floor and had to take a pee first.

    https://imgur.com/gallery/dsJueOS

    Common sense has gone to the shitter.

    -sw

    Who'd want to put their hands in the toilet to begin with???

    How many cell phones are dropped in the toilet each year?
    And the study suggests that lots of us have lost or damaged items due to
    our toilet habits. Direct Line says that in the last year alone, 1.8
    million people have dropped their mobile phone down the toilet.

    I don't know why people take their phones with them to the toilet in the first place. What is so incredibly important a person cannot wait for a phone call (or text)? It's ridiculous.

    My phone is always in my pocket. That's true for a lot of men;
    not so much for women. When I'm out, my wallet is usually in the
    other pocket. In the summer, my phone shares the pocket with my
    keys. (In the winter, my keys share with my gloves in my jacket
    pocket.)

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From lucretia@florence.it@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 21 07:55:48 2024
    On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 19:23:54 -0500, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
    wrote:

    On 2/20/2024 7:10 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-02-20 7:04 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 2/19/2024 11:26 PM, Ed P wrote:
    How many cell phones are dropped in the toilet each year?
    And the study suggests that lots of us have lost or damaged items due
    to our toilet habits. Direct Line says that in the last year alone,
    1.8 million people have dropped their mobile phone down the toilet.

    I don't know why people take their phones with them to the toilet in
    the first place.  What is so incredibly important a person cannot wait
    for a phone call (or text)?  It's ridiculous.


    I don't know about you but there is no surer way to get my phone to ring
    than to go to the bathroom and not taking my phone with me. It only has
    to be close enough to access it before it stops ringing.

    I don't have a cell phone. If I get a call at home when I'm in the
    bathroom they can darn well leave me a message. When I got home from
    work today there was a message from my doctor's office. No biggie, just
    a follow-up reminder to schedule an appointment. I've never found a
    reason to carry a phone into the bathroom, much less possibly drop it in
    the toilet.

    Jill

    The bathroom is the most dangerous space in your home. It pays to
    take a phone in there when you are going to bathe/shower, it is also
    suggested one place it lower where you could reach it from the floor
    if need be. My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Wed Feb 21 08:51:22 2024
    On 2/21/2024 6:55 AM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:


    The bathroom is the most dangerous space in your home. It pays to
    take a phone in there when you are going to bathe/shower, it is also suggested one place it lower where you could reach it from the floor
    if need be. My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

    Do you have grab bars? I have them in the shower and in the water
    closet. They do make the room safer.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Janet on Wed Feb 21 14:08:34 2024
    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

    My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their
    bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

    Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
    be safer living in a tent.

    Old people fall down in the bathroom. It's the most dangerous
    room in the house.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Wed Feb 21 09:09:47 2024
    On 2024-02-21 6:55 a.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 19:23:54 -0500, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
    wrote:

    I don't have a cell phone. If I get a call at home when I'm in the
    bathroom they can darn well leave me a message. When I got home from
    work today there was a message from my doctor's office. No biggie, just
    a follow-up reminder to schedule an appointment. I've never found a
    reason to carry a phone into the bathroom, much less possibly drop it in
    the toilet.

    Jill

    The bathroom is the most dangerous space in your home. It pays to
    take a phone in there when you are going to bathe/shower, it is also suggested one place it lower where you could reach it from the floor
    if need be. My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

    My mother had a fall in the bathroom of her condo and could not get up.
    She got over to the vanity and banged on the pipes to get her
    neighbour's attention. This happened around 3 am. After that we set
    her up with one of the fall alert systems.

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 21 13:38:35 2024
    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

    My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

    Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
    be safer living in a tent.

    Janet UK

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  • From lucretia@florence.it@21:1/5 to Janet on Wed Feb 21 12:38:00 2024
    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 13:38:35 -0000, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

    My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their
    bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

    Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
    be safer living in a tent.

    Janet UK

    Nope, just well constructed so that noise does not aggravate
    neighbours, but there is that downside. A neighbour would have to
    have the radio on extremely loud for next door to hear it, I consider
    that a bonus - and so do friends in newer, less well constructed
    condos.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Wed Feb 21 10:08:57 2024
    On 2024-02-21 9:38 a.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 13:38:35 -0000, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

    My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their
    bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

    Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
    be safer living in a tent.

    Janet UK

    Nope, just well constructed so that noise does not aggravate
    neighbours, but there is that downside. A neighbour would have to
    have the radio on extremely loud for next door to hear it, I consider
    that a bonus - and so do friends in newer, less well constructed
    condos.

    They are building large, 4 storey condo/apartment buildings in Calgary
    out of wood and chip-board (OSB). They are, IMO, gigantic firetraps.
    One stupid candle user or a dropped cigarette butt and no sprinkler
    system will be able to cope.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Wed Feb 21 12:05:42 2024
    On 2024-02-21 11:38 a.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 13:38:35 -0000, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

    My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their
    bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

    Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
    be safer living in a tent.

    Janet UK

    Nope, just well constructed so that noise does not aggravate
    neighbours, but there is that downside. A neighbour would have to
    have the radio on extremely loud for next door to hear it, I consider
    that a bonus - and so do friends in newer, less well constructed
    condos.

    I lived in a few apartment buildings while I was in my 20s and having to
    endure the sound from nieghbours was a major drawback. My wife's parents
    moved into an apartment after they sold their large house. It was
    surprisingly soundproof. My mother ended up selling her house and moving
    in a nice condo. It too was well noise insulated. After one of her
    health incidents we ended up having to provide 24/7 car for her so I
    ended up staying with he 2-3 days a week. I don't remember ever hearing
    people walking around upstairs radio, tv or conversations.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to adavid.smith@sympatico.ca on Thu Feb 22 04:10:13 2024
    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 12:05:42 -0500, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-02-21 11:38 a.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    Nope, just well constructed so that noise does not aggravate
    neighbours, but there is that downside. A neighbour would have to
    have the radio on extremely loud for next door to hear it, I consider
    that a bonus - and so do friends in newer, less well constructed
    condos.

    I lived in a few apartment buildings while I was in my 20s and having to >endure the sound from nieghbours was a major drawback. My wife's parents >moved into an apartment after they sold their large house. It was >surprisingly soundproof. My mother ended up selling her house and moving
    in a nice condo. It too was well noise insulated. After one of her
    health incidents we ended up having to provide 24/7 car for her so I
    ended up staying with he 2-3 days a week. I don't remember ever hearing >people walking around upstairs radio, tv or conversations.

    You read an excerpt from "Soundproofing And Me, A Journey" by Dave
    Smith.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Wed Feb 21 10:11:01 2024
    On 2024-02-21 10:05 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-02-21 11:38 a.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 13:38:35 -0000, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

       My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their
    bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

       Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
    be safer living in a tent.

       Janet UK

    Nope, just well constructed so that noise does not aggravate
    neighbours, but there is that downside.  A neighbour would have to
    have the radio on extremely loud for next door to hear it, I consider
    that a bonus - and so do friends in newer, less well constructed
    condos.

    I lived in a few apartment buildings while I was in my 20s and having to endure the sound from nieghbours was a major drawback. My wife's parents moved into an apartment after they sold their large house. It was surprisingly soundproof. My mother ended up selling her house and moving
    in a nice condo. It too was well noise insulated. After one of her
    health incidents we ended up having to provide 24/7 car for her so I
    ended up staying with he 2-3 days a week. I don't remember ever hearing people walking around upstairs radio, tv or conversations.


    That would certainly be a problem in the condos I describe in this thread. Better developments have concrete floors but everything between is wood
    and gyprock.

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  • From George Sulzbach@21:1/5 to Bruce on Wed Feb 21 13:53:56 2024
    Bruce wrote:
    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 12:05:42 -0500, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-02-21 11:38 a.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    Nope, just well constructed so that noise does not aggravate
    neighbours, but there is that downside. A neighbour would have to
    have the radio on extremely loud for next door to hear it, I consider
    that a bonus - and so do friends in newer, less well constructed
    condos.

    I lived in a few apartment buildings while I was in my 20s and having to
    endure the sound from nieghbours was a major drawback. My wife's parents
    moved into an apartment after they sold their large house. It was
    surprisingly soundproof. My mother ended up selling her house and moving
    in a nice condo. It too was well noise insulated. After one of her
    health incidents we ended up having to provide 24/7 car for her so I
    ended up staying with he 2-3 days a week. I don't remember ever hearing
    people walking around upstairs radio, tv or conversations.

    You read an excerpt from "Soundproofing And Me, A Journey" by Dave
    Smith.


    It was nice of him to provide a 24/7 car for her in her
    time of need.

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  • From lucretia@florence.it@21:1/5 to Graham on Wed Feb 21 14:18:49 2024
    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 10:08:57 -0700, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-02-21 9:38 a.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 13:38:35 -0000, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

    My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their
    bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

    Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
    be safer living in a tent.

    Janet UK

    Nope, just well constructed so that noise does not aggravate
    neighbours, but there is that downside. A neighbour would have to
    have the radio on extremely loud for next door to hear it, I consider
    that a bonus - and so do friends in newer, less well constructed
    condos.

    They are building large, 4 storey condo/apartment buildings in Calgary
    out of wood and chip-board (OSB). They are, IMO, gigantic firetraps.
    One stupid candle user or a dropped cigarette butt and no sprinkler
    system will be able to cope.

    I stayed with a friend in her condo after she had surgery several
    years ago and in the middle of the night I thought I heard her up and
    around but it was the man overhead going for a pee. That was a wood construction, I was surprised they were allowed to use wood.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to g.sulzbach@myplace.net on Thu Feb 22 06:11:00 2024
    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 13:53:56 -0500, George Sulzbach
    <g.sulzbach@myplace.net> wrote:

    Bruce wrote:
    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 12:05:42 -0500, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-02-21 11:38 a.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    Nope, just well constructed so that noise does not aggravate
    neighbours, but there is that downside. A neighbour would have to
    have the radio on extremely loud for next door to hear it, I consider
    that a bonus - and so do friends in newer, less well constructed
    condos.

    I lived in a few apartment buildings while I was in my 20s and having to >>> endure the sound from nieghbours was a major drawback. My wife's parents >>> moved into an apartment after they sold their large house. It was
    surprisingly soundproof. My mother ended up selling her house and moving >>> in a nice condo. It too was well noise insulated. After one of her
    health incidents we ended up having to provide 24/7 car for her so I
    ended up staying with he 2-3 days a week. I don't remember ever hearing
    people walking around upstairs radio, tv or conversations.

    You read an excerpt from "Soundproofing And Me, A Journey" by Dave
    Smith.


    It was nice of him to provide a 24/7 car for her in her
    time of need.

    2-3 days a week. He says.

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 21 19:33:18 2024
    In article <CtnBN.90784$Sf59.8188@fx48.iad>,
    hamilton@invalid.com says...

    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>, lucretia@florence.it says...

    My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their
    bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

    Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
    be safer living in a tent.

    Old people fall down in the bathroom. It's the most dangerous
    room in the house.

    Probably more falls happen on staircases. More fires
    start in the kitchen.

    Janet UK

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Wed Feb 21 20:03:49 2024
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2024-02-21, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 2/20/2024 7:10 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-02-20 7:04 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 2/19/2024 11:26 PM, Ed P wrote:
    How many cell phones are dropped in the toilet each year?
    And the study suggests that lots of us have lost or damaged
    items due >>>> to our toilet habits. Direct Line says that in the
    last year alone, >>>> 1.8 million people have dropped their mobile
    phone down the toilet.

    I don't know why people take their phones with them to the toilet
    in >>> the first place.  What is so incredibly important a person
    cannot wait >>> for a phone call (or text)?  It's ridiculous.


    I don't know about you but there is no surer way to get my phone
    to ring >> than to go to the bathroom and not taking my phone with
    me. It only has >> to be close enough to access it before it stops
    ringing. >>
    I don't have a cell phone. If I get a call at home when I'm in the bathroom they can darn well leave me a message. When I got home
    from work today there was a message from my doctor's office. No
    biggie, just a follow-up reminder to schedule an appointment. I've
    never found a reason to carry a phone into the bathroom, much less
    possibly drop it in the toilet.

    I take it you don't put things in your pants pockets. If you wear
    pants. If they have pockets. I don't wear skirts or dresses and
    I make sure all my pants have pockets.

    I mostly wore dresses or skirts (some had pockets but most didn't). I
    spent 6 years though working in classified places so cellphones not
    allowed inside, making it moot though.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Janet on Wed Feb 21 15:44:01 2024
    On 2/21/2024 2:33 PM, Janet wrote:
    In article <CtnBN.90784$Sf59.8188@fx48.iad>,
    hamilton@invalid.com says...

    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

    My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their
    bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

    Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
    be safer living in a tent.

    Old people fall down in the bathroom. It's the most dangerous
    room in the house.

    Probably more falls happen on staircases. More fires
    start in the kitchen.

    Janet UK

    Stairs come in at 16% for total accidents. Garden is very high for
    total accidents. Falls may differ but not shown here.


    https://the-compensation-experts.co.uk/news/most-dangerous-areas-of-the-home/

    Poisoning is a big number according to this https://www.moneygeek.com/insurance/homeowners/analysis/home-accident-and-injury-statistics/#leading-cause-of-death-by-age

    Where do most home accidents occur?
    Each room in your home can be potentially hazardous, leading to home
    accidents. For example, death by poisoning can involve cleaning
    materials in your bathroom or kitchen and insecticides in your garage or
    garden shed. MoneyGeek’s findings on poisoning fatalities also includes
    drug overdose. Drowning is more common in bathrooms or pools.

    Choking typically happens in your living or dining room during a meal.
    Most people fall on the stairs or in the bathroom.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Janet on Wed Feb 21 15:55:11 2024
    On 2024-02-21 2:33 p.m., Janet wrote:
    In article <CtnBN.90784$Sf59.8188@fx48.iad>,
    hamilton@invalid.com says...

    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

    My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their
    bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

    Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
    be safer living in a tent.

    Old people fall down in the bathroom. It's the most dangerous
    room in the house.

    Probably more falls happen on staircases. More fires
    start in the kitchen.


    The statistics are very complicated. First of all, they are likely
    often referring to falls that resulted in injuries. People might stumble
    or trip and fall in the bedroom or living room but land on something
    soft and are uninjured so those falls don't get recorded and don't end
    up in the date bases from which the stats are pulled.

    I came across one site that reported that falls are the leading cause of
    death from injury in older adults and it recommended steps to reduce the
    risk of falls, like hand rails. It said that 13% of people injured in
    falls in homes without stairs fell in the bathroom and 31% of people
    injured in falls in homes without stairs fell in their living room, and
    30% of older adults who were injured in falls in homes without stairs
    fell in their bedroom.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Ed P on Wed Feb 21 22:02:16 2024
    On 2024-02-21, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 2:33 PM, Janet wrote:
    In article <CtnBN.90784$Sf59.8188@fx48.iad>,
    hamilton@invalid.com says...

    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

    My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their >>>>> bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

    Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
    be safer living in a tent.

    Old people fall down in the bathroom. It's the most dangerous
    room in the house.

    Probably more falls happen on staircases. More fires
    start in the kitchen.

    Janet UK

    Stairs come in at 16% for total accidents. Garden is very high for
    total accidents. Falls may differ but not shown here.

    Old people avoid stairs.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Janet on Wed Feb 21 22:01:22 2024
    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <CtnBN.90784$Sf59.8188@fx48.iad>,
    hamilton@invalid.com says...

    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

    My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their
    bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

    Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
    be safer living in a tent.

    Old people fall down in the bathroom. It's the most dangerous
    room in the house.

    Probably more falls happen on staircases. More fires
    start in the kitchen.

    Ok, fine. Make me cite my sources.

    https://convenientheight.com/healthcare/the-smallest-room-in-your-home-is-the-most-dangerous-place

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Wed Feb 21 16:13:55 2024
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-21, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 2:33 PM, Janet wrote:
    In article <CtnBN.90784$Sf59.8188@fx48.iad>,
    hamilton@invalid.com says...

    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

    My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their >>>>>> bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

    Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
    be safer living in a tent.

    Old people fall down in the bathroom. It's the most dangerous
    room in the house.

    Probably more falls happen on staircases. More fires
    start in the kitchen.

    Janet UK

    Stairs come in at 16% for total accidents. Garden is very high for
    total accidents. Falls may differ but not shown here.

    Old people avoid stairs.


    Popeye sure didn't.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Wed Feb 21 17:20:19 2024
    On 2/21/2024 5:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-21, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 2:33 PM, Janet wrote:
    In article <CtnBN.90784$Sf59.8188@fx48.iad>,
    hamilton@invalid.com says...

    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

    My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their >>>>>> bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

    Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
    be safer living in a tent.

    Old people fall down in the bathroom. It's the most dangerous
    room in the house.

    Probably more falls happen on staircases. More fires
    start in the kitchen.

    Janet UK

    Stairs come in at 16% for total accidents. Garden is very high for
    total accidents. Falls may differ but not shown here.

    Old people avoid stairs.


    Most do. I have a friend that will go up the stairs to the bathroom
    instead of using the powder room nearby. It is a form of exercise that
    I'm willing to avoid.

    I like having a house with no stairs. Not so much for safety as for my
    knees.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to hamilton@invalid.com on Thu Feb 22 09:23:14 2024
    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 22:02:16 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
    <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2024-02-21, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 2:33 PM, Janet wrote:
    In article <CtnBN.90784$Sf59.8188@fx48.iad>,
    hamilton@invalid.com says...

    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

    My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their >>>>>> bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

    Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
    be safer living in a tent.

    Old people fall down in the bathroom. It's the most dangerous
    room in the house.

    Probably more falls happen on staircases. More fires
    start in the kitchen.

    Janet UK

    Stairs come in at 16% for total accidents. Garden is very high for
    total accidents. Falls may differ but not shown here.

    Old people avoid stairs.

    Especially after a couple of drinks.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Ed P on Wed Feb 21 17:43:11 2024
    On 2024-02-21 5:20 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 5:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


    Most do.  I have a friend that will go up the stairs to the bathroom
    instead of using the powder room nearby.  It is a form of exercise that
    I'm willing to avoid.

    I like having a house with no stairs.  Not so much for safety as for my knees.


    When I joined the Y I was surprised to see a number of people who rode
    the elevator from the locker room up one floor to the gym. It was no
    surprise to see that they tended to be those who most needed to use the
    stairs.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Ed P on Thu Feb 22 09:24:00 2024
    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 17:20:19 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    On 2/21/2024 5:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-21, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 2:33 PM, Janet wrote:
    In article <CtnBN.90784$Sf59.8188@fx48.iad>,
    hamilton@invalid.com says...

    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

    My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their >>>>>>> bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

    Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
    be safer living in a tent.

    Old people fall down in the bathroom. It's the most dangerous
    room in the house.

    Probably more falls happen on staircases. More fires
    start in the kitchen.

    Janet UK

    Stairs come in at 16% for total accidents. Garden is very high for
    total accidents. Falls may differ but not shown here.

    Old people avoid stairs.


    Most do. I have a friend that will go up the stairs to the bathroom
    instead of using the powder room nearby. It is a form of exercise that
    I'm willing to avoid.

    I like having a house with no stairs. Not so much for safety as for my >knees.

    I think there are a lot more stairs in the old world than in the new.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to adavid.smith@sympatico.ca on Thu Feb 22 10:02:06 2024
    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 17:43:11 -0500, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-02-21 5:20 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 5:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    Most do.  I have a friend that will go up the stairs to the bathroom
    instead of using the powder room nearby.  It is a form of exercise that
    I'm willing to avoid.

    I like having a house with no stairs.  Not so much for safety as for my
    knees.

    When I joined the Y I was surprised to see a number of people who rode
    the elevator from the locker room up one floor to the gym. It was no
    surprise to see that they tended to be those who most needed to use the >stairs.

    Did you tell them?

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Wed Feb 21 17:19:56 2024
    Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-02-21 5:20 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 5:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


    Most do.  I have a friend that will go up the stairs to the bathroom
    instead of using the powder room nearby.  It is a form of exercise that
    I'm willing to avoid.

    I like having a house with no stairs.  Not so much for safety as for my
    knees.


    When I joined the Y I was surprised to see a number of people who rode the elevator from the locker room up one floor to the gym. It was no surprise
    to see that they tended to be those who most needed to use the stairs.

    Officer dave, you should have at least given them a warning ticket.

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Wed Feb 21 18:32:48 2024
    On 2/21/2024 5:06 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-21, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 2/20/2024 7:10 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-02-20 7:04 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 2/19/2024 11:26 PM, Ed P wrote:
    How many cell phones are dropped in the toilet each year?
    And the study suggests that lots of us have lost or damaged items due >>>>> to our toilet habits. Direct Line says that in the last year alone,
    1.8 million people have dropped their mobile phone down the toilet.

    I don't know why people take their phones with them to the toilet in
    the first place.  What is so incredibly important a person cannot wait >>>> for a phone call (or text)?  It's ridiculous.


    I don't know about you but there is no surer way to get my phone to ring >>> than to go to the bathroom and not taking my phone with me. It only has
    to be close enough to access it before it stops ringing.

    I don't have a cell phone. If I get a call at home when I'm in the
    bathroom they can darn well leave me a message. When I got home from
    work today there was a message from my doctor's office. No biggie, just
    a follow-up reminder to schedule an appointment. I've never found a
    reason to carry a phone into the bathroom, much less possibly drop it in
    the toilet.

    I take it you don't put things in your pants pockets. If you wear
    pants. If they have pockets. I don't wear skirts or dresses and
    I make sure all my pants have pockets.

    I have cordless phones but I don't put them in my pants/shorts pockets
    to take to the bathroom with me.

    Jill

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Wed Feb 21 18:47:50 2024
    On 2/21/2024 9:08 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

    My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their
    bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

    Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
    be safer living in a tent.

    Old people fall down in the bathroom. It's the most dangerous
    room in the house.

    Sure they do. So do young people. When I was 23 years old I slipped
    and fell in the bathtub while taking a shower. I was at home alone. Fortunately I wasn't hurt but I could have been. Cell phones weren't at
    all common in 1983. What would you have suggested I do? Stop taking
    showers when I was at home by myself? This is why there are things like grab-bars in bathrooms.

    Jill

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Ed P on Wed Feb 21 23:52:43 2024
    Ed P wrote:

    I like having a house with no stairs. Not so much for safety as for my knees.

    Me, too! My knees only bother me if I'm kneeling then they begin screaming.

    A former WebTV pal has a two-story house and was really wanting to move and
    buy something single storey. But they looked into one of those stairlift systems and picked one up at half the price but with a full warranty.

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Wed Feb 21 19:01:45 2024
    On 2/21/2024 5:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-21, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 2:33 PM, Janet wrote:
    In article <CtnBN.90784$Sf59.8188@fx48.iad>,
    hamilton@invalid.com says...

    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

    My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their >>>>>> bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

    Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
    be safer living in a tent.

    Old people fall down in the bathroom. It's the most dangerous
    room in the house.

    Probably more falls happen on staircases. More fires
    start in the kitchen.

    Janet UK

    Stairs come in at 16% for total accidents. Garden is very high for
    total accidents. Falls may differ but not shown here.

    Old people avoid stairs.

    There is a new house being built practically across the street that is a
    2 story house. One that was built down the street last year is also a 2
    story house. One would think older people would avoid stairs, yet they
    are still building brand new 2 story houses. Go figure.

    Jill

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Wed Feb 21 19:43:36 2024
    On 2024-02-21 6:47 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 9:08 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

       My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their
    bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

        Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
    be safer living in a tent.

    Old people fall down in the bathroom.  It's the most dangerous
    room in the house.

    Sure they do.  So do young people.  When I was 23 years old I slipped
    and fell in the bathtub while taking a shower.  I was at home alone. Fortunately I wasn't hurt but I could have been.  Cell phones weren't at
    all common in 1983.  What would you have suggested I do?  Stop taking showers when I was at home by myself?  This is why there are things like grab-bars in bathrooms.

    I fell in the shower when one morning getting ready for work. I thought
    was okay but when We stopped for coffee on the way the the district
    office I was walking like a drunk. My boss wondered what was wrong but
    i told him i felt fine...... then i ran to the can and puked. He sent me
    home.

    He offered to have someone drive me but I thought I could manage. Bad
    move. I was having trouble, but within a few minutes I was fine. I
    got in to see my doctor that afternoon and he found no problem. I
    didn't have to feel quilty about a free day off. I had been willing to
    stay but he sent me home.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Wed Feb 21 19:56:54 2024
    On 2/21/2024 7:01 PM, jmcquown wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 5:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-21, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 2:33 PM, Janet wrote:
    In article <CtnBN.90784$Sf59.8188@fx48.iad>,
    hamilton@invalid.com says...

    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

        My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in
    their
    bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

         Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
    be safer living in a tent.

    Old people fall down in the bathroom.  It's the most dangerous
    room in the house.

        Probably more falls happen on staircases. More fires
    start in the kitchen.

        Janet UK

    Stairs come in at 16% for total accidents.  Garden is very high for
    total accidents.  Falls may differ but not shown here.

    Old people avoid stairs.

    There is a new house being built practically across the street that is a
    2 story house.  One that was built down the street last year is also a 2 story house.  One would think older people would avoid stairs, yet they
    are still building brand new 2 story houses.  Go figure.

    Jill

    When I stay in NJ, it is actually on the third level. No problem
    though. Elevator.

    It is a duplex. First level is split half and half, left/right. First
    level is the other owner full width, she is top level, 2400 sq. ft.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to adavid.smith@sympatico.ca on Thu Feb 22 12:01:54 2024
    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 19:43:36 -0500, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-02-21 6:47 p.m., jmcquown wrote:

    Sure they do.  So do young people.  When I was 23 years old I slipped
    and fell in the bathtub while taking a shower.  I was at home alone.
    Fortunately I wasn't hurt but I could have been.  Cell phones weren't at
    all common in 1983.  What would you have suggested I do?  Stop taking
    showers when I was at home by myself?  This is why there are things like
    grab-bars in bathrooms.

    I fell in the shower when one morning getting ready for work. I thought
    was okay but when We stopped for coffee on the way the the district
    office I was walking like a drunk. My boss wondered what was wrong but
    i told him i felt fine...... then i ran to the can and puked. He sent me >home.

    He offered to have someone drive me but I thought I could manage. Bad
    move. I was having trouble, but within a few minutes I was fine. I
    got in to see my doctor that afternoon and he found no problem. I
    didn't have to feel quilty about a free day off. I had been willing to
    stay but he sent me home.

    So that doctor didn't realise you had a concussion...

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Ed P on Wed Feb 21 21:10:14 2024
    On 2/21/2024 7:56 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 7:01 PM, jmcquown wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 5:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-21, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 2:33 PM, Janet wrote:
    In article <CtnBN.90784$Sf59.8188@fx48.iad>,
    hamilton@invalid.com says...

    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

        My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in >>>>>>>> their
    bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking. >>>>>>>>
         Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
    be safer living in a tent.

    Old people fall down in the bathroom.  It's the most dangerous
    room in the house.

        Probably more falls happen on staircases. More fires
    start in the kitchen.

        Janet UK

    Stairs come in at 16% for total accidents.  Garden is very high for
    total accidents.  Falls may differ but not shown here.

    Old people avoid stairs.

    There is a new house being built practically across the street that is
    a 2 story house.  One that was built down the street last year is also
    a 2 story house.  One would think older people would avoid stairs, yet
    they are still building brand new 2 story houses.  Go figure.

    Jill

    When I stay in NJ, it is actually on the third level.  No problem
    though.  Elevator.

    It is a duplex.  First level is split half and half, left/right.  First level is the other owner full width, she is top level, 2400 sq. ft.

    Obviously an elevator is different from climbing stairs. These homes
    near me don't have elevators. Probably bathrooms on the 2nd floor. But hopefully they have grab bars in the bathroom. I don't bathe with them
    so I wouldn't know. ;)

    Jill

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Thu Feb 22 03:29:15 2024
    On 2024-02-21, lucretia@florence.it <lucretia@florence.it> wrote:

    The bathroom is the most dangerous space in your home. It pays to
    take a phone in there when you are going to bathe/shower, it is also suggested one place it lower where you could reach it from the floor
    if need be. My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.


    Yeah, and a cellphone holder to be mounted at about two feet off the
    floor in the bathroom. Why isn't someone onto this?
    We don't need no stinkin' "Help me, I can't get up!", it's right there
    in our hands.
    Since I'm hoity toity, my watch does that.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Wed Feb 21 22:41:32 2024
    On 2/21/2024 10:20 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2024-02-21, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

    I take it you don't put things in your pants pockets. If you wear
    pants. If they have pockets. I don't wear skirts or dresses and
    I make sure all my pants have pockets.


    There ought to be a cellphone pocket on all modern clothing.
    Cargo shorts have them. A extra pocket should be provided on the thigh
    of all modern clothing. Why aren't they doing that?
    I just put a billion dollar idea in somebody's head, and I won't profit
    a dime. Story of my life. :(


    I have a holder on my belt. Like this one

    http://tinyurl.com/vpvsjzmv

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Thu Feb 22 03:20:59 2024
    On 2024-02-21, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

    I take it you don't put things in your pants pockets. If you wear
    pants. If they have pockets. I don't wear skirts or dresses and
    I make sure all my pants have pockets.


    There ought to be a cellphone pocket on all modern clothing.
    Cargo shorts have them. A extra pocket should be provided on the thigh
    of all modern clothing. Why aren't they doing that?
    I just put a billion dollar idea in somebody's head, and I won't profit
    a dime. Story of my life. :(

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu Feb 22 03:36:41 2024
    On 2024-02-21, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    I think there are a lot more stairs in the old world than in the new.


    Where I live, it seems that the majority of new homes are two-story.
    Youngsters don't think of old age.

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Thu Feb 22 03:33:19 2024
    On 2024-02-21, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
    On 2024-02-21, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    Stairs come in at 16% for total accidents. Garden is very high for
    total accidents. Falls may differ but not shown here.

    Old people avoid stairs.


    Amen! I have a step-up to my porch that I've been eyeing for solutions.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Wed Feb 21 23:44:51 2024
    On 2/21/2024 10:36 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2024-02-21, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    I think there are a lot more stairs in the old world than in the new.


    Where I live, it seems that the majority of new homes are two-story. Youngsters don't think of old age.

    Very common in places where land is expensive. There are a lot of
    economic advantages to a two story. Such as a 2000 sq. ft. house only
    needs a 1000 sq. ft. roof and foundation.

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  • From Sqwertz@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 21 23:11:09 2024
    On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 08:38:08 -0800 (PST), dsi1 wrote:

    On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 10:22:51 PM UTC-10, Sqwertz wrote:
    Which is why all toilets have an NFC or bluetooth anti-levitator
    water resistant hardware and firmware installed rather than a
    sharp pointy object at the bottom of the toilet. Am I right,
    David?

    You're in a manic phase. Please let your doctor know about this. Of course, you won't do it. At least take your meds.

    <yawn!>

    And there goes David..... Poof! I'll miss your fortune telling,
    ersatz knowledge of all things computers, and all your other
    unsolicited "guesses", and how life sucks on that miserable rock.

    -sw

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  • From Sqwertz@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Wed Feb 21 23:17:55 2024
    On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 19:23:54 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

    I don't have a cell phone. If I get a call at home when I'm in the
    bathroom they can darn well leave me a message. When I got home from
    work today there was a message from my doctor's office. No biggie, just
    a follow-up reminder to schedule an appointment. I've never found a
    reason to carry a phone into the bathroom, much less possibly drop it in
    the toilet.

    You should just sit this one out. You're being ridiculous.

    I always take my phone into the bathroom when I'm out in public.
    Everybody does.

    -sw

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  • From Sqwertz@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Wed Feb 21 23:15:33 2024
    On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 19:04:25 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

    On 2/19/2024 11:26 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 2/19/2024 11:04 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
    On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 9:35:21 PM UTC-6, Sqwertz wrote:

    I spotted this at my lower extremity orthopedist today when I got
    off on the wrong floor and had to take a pee first.

    https://imgur.com/gallery/dsJueOS

    Common sense has gone to the shitter.

    -sw

    Who'd want to put their hands in the toilet to begin with???

    How many cell phones are dropped in the toilet each year?
    And the study suggests that lots of us have lost or damaged items due to
    our toilet habits. Direct Line says that in the last year alone, 1.8
    million people have dropped their mobile phone down the toilet.

    I don't know why people take their phones with them to the toilet in the first place. What is so incredibly important a person cannot wait for a phone call (or text)? It's ridiculous.

    We keep them in our pockets usually. What are we supposed to do,
    leave them out in the waiting room or in our shopping carts?

    But even then when pulling up your pants, a partially exposed
    phone can catch an awkward crease in the fabric and flip out of
    the pocket and into the shitter.

    -sw

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  • From Ed Pawlowski@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Thu Feb 22 00:45:27 2024
    On 2/22/2024 12:29 AM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2024-02-22, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    I have a holder on my belt. Like this one

    http://tinyurl.com/vpvsjzmv


    Thanks to our genderless society, that would look great on a short
    cocktail dress. Hubba hubba!


    Thanks for the compliment. I'm going shopping for cocktail dresses
    tomorrow. Do they come in 2XL?

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Ed P on Thu Feb 22 05:29:19 2024
    On 2024-02-22, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    I have a holder on my belt. Like this one

    http://tinyurl.com/vpvsjzmv


    Thanks to our genderless society, that would look great on a short
    cocktail dress. Hubba hubba!

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Ed Pawlowski on Thu Feb 22 06:41:38 2024
    On 2024-02-22, Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
    On 2/22/2024 12:29 AM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

    Thanks to our genderless society, that would look great on a short
    cocktail dress. Hubba hubba!

    Thanks for the compliment. I'm going shopping for cocktail dresses
    tomorrow. Do they come in 2XL?

    Not yet, I don't think, without mucho moola. What color of holder and
    belt were you thinking along with dress dimensions? I know a gal.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Thu Feb 22 10:05:36 2024
    On 2024-02-22, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    On 2024-02-21, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

    I take it you don't put things in your pants pockets. If you wear
    pants. If they have pockets. I don't wear skirts or dresses and
    I make sure all my pants have pockets.


    There ought to be a cellphone pocket on all modern clothing.

    I'd be grateful if clothing manufacturers decided there ought to
    be usable pockets in all women's pants.

    Cargo shorts have them. A extra pocket should be provided on the thigh
    of all modern clothing. Why aren't they doing that?

    Fashion. It would spoil the lines.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Ed Pawlowski on Thu Feb 22 10:09:01 2024
    On 2024-02-22, Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
    On 2/22/2024 12:29 AM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2024-02-22, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    I have a holder on my belt. Like this one

    http://tinyurl.com/vpvsjzmv


    Thanks to our genderless society, that would look great on a short
    cocktail dress. Hubba hubba!


    Thanks for the compliment. I'm going shopping for cocktail dresses
    tomorrow. Do they come in 2XL?

    Yes, they do. I'm surprised a man of your taste and discrimination
    doesn't already own a little black dress.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Thu Feb 22 10:03:43 2024
    On 2024-02-22, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 5:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-21, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 2:33 PM, Janet wrote:
    In article <CtnBN.90784$Sf59.8188@fx48.iad>,
    hamilton@invalid.com says...

    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

    My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their >>>>>>> bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

    Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
    be safer living in a tent.

    Old people fall down in the bathroom. It's the most dangerous
    room in the house.

    Probably more falls happen on staircases. More fires
    start in the kitchen.

    Janet UK

    Stairs come in at 16% for total accidents. Garden is very high for
    total accidents. Falls may differ but not shown here.

    Old people avoid stairs.

    There is a new house being built practically across the street that is a
    2 story house. One that was built down the street last year is also a 2 story house. One would think older people would avoid stairs, yet they
    are still building brand new 2 story houses. Go figure.

    Is there a first-floor bedroom suite? That can make a lot of difference.
    The kids can use the second-floor bedroom(s) when they visit, while
    the owners fort up in the first-floor bedroom.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Thu Feb 22 10:01:09 2024
    On 2024-02-21, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 5:06 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-21, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 2/20/2024 7:10 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-02-20 7:04 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 2/19/2024 11:26 PM, Ed P wrote:
    How many cell phones are dropped in the toilet each year?
    And the study suggests that lots of us have lost or damaged items due >>>>>> to our toilet habits. Direct Line says that in the last year alone, >>>>>> 1.8 million people have dropped their mobile phone down the toilet. >>>>>
    I don't know why people take their phones with them to the toilet in >>>>> the first place.  What is so incredibly important a person cannot wait >>>>> for a phone call (or text)?  It's ridiculous.


    I don't know about you but there is no surer way to get my phone to ring >>>> than to go to the bathroom and not taking my phone with me. It only has >>>> to be close enough to access it before it stops ringing.

    I don't have a cell phone. If I get a call at home when I'm in the
    bathroom they can darn well leave me a message. When I got home from
    work today there was a message from my doctor's office. No biggie, just >>> a follow-up reminder to schedule an appointment. I've never found a
    reason to carry a phone into the bathroom, much less possibly drop it in >>> the toilet.

    I take it you don't put things in your pants pockets. If you wear
    pants. If they have pockets. I don't wear skirts or dresses and
    I make sure all my pants have pockets.

    I have cordless phones but I don't put them in my pants/shorts pockets
    to take to the bathroom with me.

    Of course not. They're probably too big for your pants pocket.

    I like the convenience of having my cell phone in my pocket. If it
    rings, I don't have to run to the other end of the house to answer.

    Plus, I use it for various alarms. Notably, the 9 am "Call Mom and
    remind her to take her pills." I realize you don't use your landline
    handsets for that sort of thing.

    It's 5 am and I have my cell phone in my pocket right now. It's
    part of the wake up routine: close the window, put on slippers,
    cell phone in pocket, head for the bathroom.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Thu Feb 22 09:57:14 2024
    On 2024-02-21 10:29 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2024-02-21, lucretia@florence.it <lucretia@florence.it> wrote:

    The bathroom is the most dangerous space in your home. It pays to
    take a phone in there when you are going to bathe/shower, it is also
    suggested one place it lower where you could reach it from the floor
    if need be. My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their
    bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.


    Yeah, and a cellphone holder to be mounted at about two feet off the
    floor in the bathroom. Why isn't someone onto this?
    We don't need no stinkin' "Help me, I can't get up!", it's right there
    in our hands.
    Since I'm hoity toity, my watch does that.


    How much information do you want. I usually go for my morning crap
    naked. Then I climb into the shower. The phone would be stuck in the
    pocket of my pants in the bedroom.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Thu Feb 22 10:06:56 2024
    On 2024-02-22 5:05 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-22, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    There ought to be a cellphone pocket on all modern clothing.

    I'd be grateful if clothing manufacturers decided there ought to
    be usable pockets in all women's pants.

    Cargo shorts have them. A extra pocket should be provided on the thigh
    of all modern clothing. Why aren't they doing that?

    Fashion. It would spoil the lines.



    Years ago I was shopping for a dress shirt and kept reject those that
    the salesman was trying to foist on me. I rejected them because they did
    not have a chest pocket. He told me they weren't making mens' shirts
    with chest pockets anymore. I told him there was no way I would buy a
    shirt without a pocket. It was just a few months later they started
    carrying shirts with pockets again.

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 22 15:33:52 2024
    In article <SouBN.515812$83n7.155811@fx18.iad>,
    hamilton@invalid.com says...

    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <CtnBN.90784$Sf59.8188@fx48.iad>,
    hamilton@invalid.com says...

    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

    My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their >> >> bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

    Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
    be safer living in a tent.

    Old people fall down in the bathroom. It's the most dangerous
    room in the house.

    Probably more falls happen on staircases. More fires
    start in the kitchen.

    Ok, fine. Make me cite my sources.

    https://convenientheight.com/healthcare/the-smallest-room-in-your-home-is-the-most-dangerous-place

    quote " as people get older more than half of their
    injuries occur near the toilet."

    It's safer to pee in the woods, so long as the bears
    don't get you.

    Janet UK

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 22 15:40:53 2024
    In article <IpuBN.515814$83n7.496747@fx18.iad>,
    hamilton@invalid.com says...

    On 2024-02-21, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 2:33 PM, Janet wrote:
    In article <CtnBN.90784$Sf59.8188@fx48.iad>,
    hamilton@invalid.com says...

    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

    My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their >>>>> bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

    Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
    be safer living in a tent.

    Old people fall down in the bathroom. It's the most dangerous
    room in the house.

    Probably more falls happen on staircases. More fires
    start in the kitchen.

    Janet UK

    Stairs come in at 16% for total accidents. Garden is very high for
    total accidents. Falls may differ but not shown here.

    Old people avoid stairs.

    Not all of them.

    https://www.johnogroat-journal.co.uk/news/stair-climbing- highland-lockdown-heroine-who-captured-nation-335509/

    Quote

    "A Highland lockdown legend who captured the nation's
    hearts by climbing the equivalent of 2398ft high mountain
    for charity has died, aged 93.

    Great-grandmother Margaret Payne climbed the stairs at her
    home 282 times ? the equivalent height of Suilven ? during
    the spring of 2020 when she was shielding during the
    coronavirus pandemic.Her stairclimbing challenge raised
    over £435,000 for NHSCharities Together, NHS Highland,
    RNLI and Highland Hospice."

    Janet UK

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to adavid.smith@sympatico.ca on Fri Feb 23 04:31:14 2024
    On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 10:06:56 -0500, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-02-22 5:05 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-22, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    There ought to be a cellphone pocket on all modern clothing.

    I'd be grateful if clothing manufacturers decided there ought to
    be usable pockets in all women's pants.

    Cargo shorts have them. A extra pocket should be provided on the thigh
    of all modern clothing. Why aren't they doing that?

    Fashion. It would spoil the lines.

    Years ago I was shopping for a dress shirt and kept reject those that
    the salesman was trying to foist on me. I rejected them because they did
    not have a chest pocket. He told me they weren't making mens' shirts
    with chest pockets anymore. I told him there was no way I would buy a
    shirt without a pocket. It was just a few months later they started
    carrying shirts with pockets again.

    Man, the influence you have!

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Thu Feb 22 19:39:53 2024
    Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2024-02-21 5:20 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 5:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


    Most do.  I have a friend that will go up the stairs to the
    bathroom instead of using the powder room nearby.  It is a form of exercise that I'm willing to avoid.

    I like having a house with no stairs.  Not so much for safety as
    for my knees.


    When I joined the Y I was surprised to see a number of people who
    rode the elevator from the locker room up one floor to the gym. It
    was no surprise to see that they tended to be those who most needed
    to use the stairs.

    Physio therapy sessions are normally on 2nd level here. A lot of the
    gyms give space for medical services to use them if they provide the
    tech for it.

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Thu Feb 22 19:59:40 2024
    Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

    On 2024-02-21, lucretia@florence.it <lucretia@florence.it> wrote:

    The bathroom is the most dangerous space in your home. It pays to
    take a phone in there when you are going to bathe/shower, it is also suggested one place it lower where you could reach it from the floor
    if need be. My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in
    their bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or
    knocking.


    Yeah, and a cellphone holder to be mounted at about two feet off the
    floor in the bathroom. Why isn't someone onto this?
    We don't need no stinkin' "Help me, I can't get up!", it's right there
    in our hands.
    Since I'm hoity toity, my watch does that.

    I have one of these on the main bathromm toilet (very tight space so
    the hit the walls on both sides))


    https://www.amazon.com/Medline-Toilet-Installation-Adjustable-Bathroom/dp/B000BJBH48/

    And one on the 1/2 batromm toilet attaches like it but has feet and
    they fit in a raised footrest to keep the feet in place.

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  • From Sqwertz@21:1/5 to Ed P on Thu Feb 22 15:28:03 2024
    On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 10:47:45 -0500, Ed P wrote:

    On 2/20/2024 5:37 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
    On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 09:39:50 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2024-02-20, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote: >>
    Oh ok. I don't take the phone or food or anything with me when
    I go to the bathroom except maybe a catalog to scan while I'm
    visiting Mrs. Murphy.

    Imagine the millions of people who keep their phone in a pants
    pocket...

    You're answering too late with the obvious which has already been
    pointed out.

    I'm just piggy-backing to find WTF is Mrs. Murphy?!?

    (I'll probably get reamed on this one eh?)

    -sw

    euphemism I visit Mr.s Murphy every morning. That is where I read the Reader's Digest.

    In the time it takes me to shit, I'm usually concentrating,
    recalling what I ate yesterday, mumbling obscenities, and looking
    for and preparing something to wipe my ass.

    They still publish Readers Digest? Is Mrs. Murphy related to Mr.
    Murphy, the retractable bed?

    I call my bathroom 'Jim'. So when people wake me up I can tell
    them I'll call them back when I'm done in the Jim.

    -sw

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to cshenk on Thu Feb 22 17:23:33 2024
    On 2024-02-22 2:39 p.m., cshenk wrote:
    Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2024-02-21 5:20 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 5:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


    Most do.  I have a friend that will go up the stairs to the
    bathroom instead of using the powder room nearby.  It is a form of
    exercise that I'm willing to avoid.

    I like having a house with no stairs.  Not so much for safety as
    for my knees.


    When I joined the Y I was surprised to see a number of people who
    rode the elevator from the locker room up one floor to the gym. It
    was no surprise to see that they tended to be those who most needed
    to use the stairs.

    Physio therapy sessions are normally on 2nd level here. A lot of the
    gyms give space for medical services to use them if they provide the
    tech for it.

    Yes... and? There was no physiotherapy on the second floor. I appreciate
    you need to defend the slackers but they were just too damned lazy to walk.

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Fri Feb 23 13:44:18 2024
    On 2/21/2024 10:20 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2024-02-21, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

    I take it you don't put things in your pants pockets. If you wear
    pants. If they have pockets. I don't wear skirts or dresses and
    I make sure all my pants have pockets.


    There ought to be a cellphone pocket on all modern clothing.
    Cargo shorts have them. A extra pocket should be provided on the thigh
    of all modern clothing. Why aren't they doing that?
    I just put a billion dollar idea in somebody's head, and I won't profit
    a dime. Story of my life. :(

    It's called the "theory of formative causation". Once you think up an
    idea, it's floating around out there in the ether for anyone to pick up
    (and potentially make a profit). :)

    Jill

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Janet on Fri Feb 23 14:33:16 2024
    On 2/22/2024 10:33 AM, Janet wrote:
    In article <SouBN.515812$83n7.155811@fx18.iad>,
    hamilton@invalid.com says...

    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <CtnBN.90784$Sf59.8188@fx48.iad>,
    hamilton@invalid.com says...

    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

    My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their >>>>>> bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

    Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
    be safer living in a tent.

    Old people fall down in the bathroom. It's the most dangerous
    room in the house.

    Probably more falls happen on staircases. More fires
    start in the kitchen.

    Ok, fine. Make me cite my sources.

    https://convenientheight.com/healthcare/the-smallest-room-in-your-home-is-the-most-dangerous-place

    quote " as people get older more than half of their
    injuries occur near the toilet."

    It's safer to pee in the woods, so long as the bears
    don't get you.

    Janet UK


    In the part of the US where I live you might have to worry about
    alligators. It's a rare occurrence but last year a woman who was
    walking her dog in a Hilton Head Island neighborhood got too close to a
    pond where an alligator was nesting. It charged at and killed her. I'm
    not trying to make light of it but hey, at least she wasn't trying to
    pee in the pond.

    Jill

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri Feb 23 14:42:11 2024
    On 2/21/2024 7:43 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-02-21 6:47 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 9:08 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

       My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their >>>>> bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

        Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
    be safer living in a tent.

    Old people fall down in the bathroom.  It's the most dangerous
    room in the house.

    Sure they do.  So do young people.  When I was 23 years old I slipped
    and fell in the bathtub while taking a shower.  I was at home alone.
    Fortunately I wasn't hurt but I could have been.  Cell phones weren't
    at all common in 1983.  What would you have suggested I do?  Stop
    taking showers when I was at home by myself?  This is why there are
    things like grab-bars in bathrooms.

    I fell in the shower when one morning getting ready for work. I thought
    was okay but when We stopped for  coffee on the way the the district
    office I was walking like a drunk.  My boss wondered what was wrong but
    i told him i felt fine...... then i ran to the can and puked. He sent me home.

    When I lived in Memphis I worked with a man who couldn't have been more
    than 50 years old. He was walking into the building at work one day and
    fell and hit his head on the concrete. He was a bit stunned but said he
    was fine. He worked the entire day. Went home, no problem. The next
    morning when he woke up he was disoriented and (according to his wife)
    nothing he said made any sense. He was rushed to the hospital. He died
    of a subdural hematoma (brain bleed).

    I think we can all agree, regardless of age, any fall can be dangerous
    or even fatal. It doesn't really matter where you are when it happens.

    Jill

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Fri Feb 23 14:28:34 2024
    On 2/22/2024 5:03 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-22, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 5:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-21, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 2:33 PM, Janet wrote:
    In article <CtnBN.90784$Sf59.8188@fx48.iad>,
    hamilton@invalid.com says...

    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

    My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
    and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their >>>>>>>> bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking. >>>>>>>>
    Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
    be safer living in a tent.

    Old people fall down in the bathroom. It's the most dangerous
    room in the house.

    Probably more falls happen on staircases. More fires
    start in the kitchen.

    Janet UK

    Stairs come in at 16% for total accidents. Garden is very high for
    total accidents. Falls may differ but not shown here.

    Old people avoid stairs.

    There is a new house being built practically across the street that is a
    2 story house. One that was built down the street last year is also a 2
    story house. One would think older people would avoid stairs, yet they
    are still building brand new 2 story houses. Go figure.

    Is there a first-floor bedroom suite? That can make a lot of difference.
    The kids can use the second-floor bedroom(s) when they visit, while
    the owners fort up in the first-floor bedroom.

    I honestly don't know if there is a first floor-master bedroom suite.
    The newest house is still being framed. I don't know the people in the
    house down the street well enough to inquire, although I do see them
    walking their dog sometimes and we wave at each other. :) I think it
    may also have to do with the size of the lots, which are rather small.
    It's cheaper to build *up* than to pay for a larger lot.

    Jill

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Fri Feb 23 16:48:53 2024
    On 2/23/2024 2:28 PM, jmcquown wrote:
    On 2/22/2024 5:03 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-22, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 5:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-21, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 2:33 PM, Janet wrote:
    In article <CtnBN.90784$Sf59.8188@fx48.iad>,
    hamilton@invalid.com says...

    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

         My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete >>>>>>>>> and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in >>>>>>>>> their
    bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking. >>>>>>>>>
          Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd >>>>>>>> be safer living in a tent.

    Old people fall down in the bathroom.  It's the most dangerous
    room in the house.

         Probably more falls happen on staircases. More fires
    start in the kitchen.

         Janet UK

    Stairs come in at 16% for total accidents.  Garden is very high for >>>>> total accidents.  Falls may differ but not shown here.

    Old people avoid stairs.

    There is a new house being built practically across the street that is a >>> 2 story house.  One that was built down the street last year is also a 2 >>> story house.  One would think older people would avoid stairs, yet they >>> are still building brand new 2 story houses.  Go figure.

    Is there a first-floor bedroom suite?  That can make a lot of difference. >> The kids can use the second-floor bedroom(s) when they visit, while
    the owners fort up in the first-floor bedroom.

    I honestly don't know if there is a first floor-master bedroom suite.
    The newest house is still being framed.  I don't know the people in the house down the street well enough to inquire, although I do see them
    walking their dog sometimes and we wave at each other. :)  I think it
    may also have to do with the size of the lots, which are rather small.
    It's cheaper to build *up* than to pay for a larger lot.

    Jill


    I'm considering moving closer to the water. I put a bit in on thisw
    house but no word yet if accepted

    https://www.zillow.com/homes/100-Bay-Rd-Naples,-FL-34102_rb/43737577_zpid/

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Fri Feb 23 21:39:45 2024
    On 2024-02-22, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
    On 2024-02-22, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    On 2024-02-21, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

    I take it you don't put things in your pants pockets. If you wear
    pants. If they have pockets. I don't wear skirts or dresses and
    I make sure all my pants have pockets.


    There ought to be a cellphone pocket on all modern clothing.

    I'd be grateful if clothing manufacturers decided there ought to
    be usable pockets in all women's pants.

    Cargo shorts have them. A extra pocket should be provided on the thigh
    of all modern clothing. Why aren't they doing that?

    Fashion. It would spoil the lines.


    Form over function. There ought'a be a law!

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Ed P on Fri Feb 23 17:10:44 2024
    On 2024-02-23 4:48 p.m., Ed P wrote:


    I'm considering moving closer to the water.  I put a bit in on thisw
    house but no word yet if accepted

    https://www.zillow.com/homes/100-Bay-Rd-Naples,-FL-34102_rb/43737577_zpid/



    Nice. What's thee catch?

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sat Feb 24 09:12:26 2024
    On Fri, 23 Feb 2024 16:48:53 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    On 2/23/2024 2:28 PM, jmcquown wrote:
    On 2/22/2024 5:03 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-22, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 5:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-21, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 2:33 PM, Janet wrote:
    In article <CtnBN.90784$Sf59.8188@fx48.iad>,
    hamilton@invalid.com says...

    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

         My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete >>>>>>>>>> and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in >>>>>>>>>> their
    bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking. >>>>>>>>>>
          Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd >>>>>>>>> be safer living in a tent.

    Old people fall down in the bathroom.  It's the most dangerous >>>>>>>> room in the house.

         Probably more falls happen on staircases. More fires
    start in the kitchen.

         Janet UK

    Stairs come in at 16% for total accidents.  Garden is very high for >>>>>> total accidents.  Falls may differ but not shown here.

    Old people avoid stairs.

    There is a new house being built practically across the street that is a >>>> 2 story house.  One that was built down the street last year is also a 2 >>>> story house.  One would think older people would avoid stairs, yet they >>>> are still building brand new 2 story houses.  Go figure.

    Is there a first-floor bedroom suite?  That can make a lot of difference. >>> The kids can use the second-floor bedroom(s) when they visit, while
    the owners fort up in the first-floor bedroom.

    I honestly don't know if there is a first floor-master bedroom suite.
    The newest house is still being framed.  I don't know the people in the
    house down the street well enough to inquire, although I do see them
    walking their dog sometimes and we wave at each other. :)  I think it
    may also have to do with the size of the lots, which are rather small.
    It's cheaper to build *up* than to pay for a larger lot.

    Jill


    I'm considering moving closer to the water. I put a bit in on thisw
    house but no word yet if accepted

    https://www.zillow.com/homes/100-Bay-Rd-Naples,-FL-34102_rb/43737577_zpid/

    Is it so cheap because of alligators, because of rising sea levels or
    because houses are that cheap in the US?

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Ed P on Fri Feb 23 15:42:28 2024
    On 2024-02-23 2:48 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 2/23/2024 2:28 PM, jmcquown wrote:
    On 2/22/2024 5:03 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-22, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 5:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-21, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 2:33 PM, Janet wrote:
    In article <CtnBN.90784$Sf59.8188@fx48.iad>,
    hamilton@invalid.com says...

    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

         My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete >>>>>>>>>> and over the years I have lived here, three people have died >>>>>>>>>> in their
    bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking. >>>>>>>>>>
          Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd >>>>>>>>> be safer living in a tent.

    Old people fall down in the bathroom.  It's the most dangerous >>>>>>>> room in the house.

         Probably more falls happen on staircases. More fires
    start in the kitchen.

         Janet UK

    Stairs come in at 16% for total accidents.  Garden is very high for >>>>>> total accidents.  Falls may differ but not shown here.

    Old people avoid stairs.

    There is a new house being built practically across the street that
    is a
    2 story house.  One that was built down the street last year is also
    a 2
    story house.  One would think older people would avoid stairs, yet they >>>> are still building brand new 2 story houses.  Go figure.

    Is there a first-floor bedroom suite?  That can make a lot of
    difference.
    The kids can use the second-floor bedroom(s) when they visit, while
    the owners fort up in the first-floor bedroom.

    I honestly don't know if there is a first floor-master bedroom suite.
    The newest house is still being framed.  I don't know the people in
    the house down the street well enough to inquire, although I do see
    them walking their dog sometimes and we wave at each other. :)  I
    think it may also have to do with the size of the lots, which are
    rather small. It's cheaper to build *up* than to pay for a larger lot.

    Jill


    I'm considering moving closer to the water.  I put a bit in on thisw
    house but no word yet if accepted

    https://www.zillow.com/homes/100-Bay-Rd-Naples,-FL-34102_rb/43737577_zpid/

    Get an inspection first as rising damp could be a problem.

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  • From lucretia@florence.it@21:1/5 to Ed P on Fri Feb 23 19:11:38 2024
    On Fri, 23 Feb 2024 16:48:53 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    On 2/23/2024 2:28 PM, jmcquown wrote:
    On 2/22/2024 5:03 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-22, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 5:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-21, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 2:33 PM, Janet wrote:
    In article <CtnBN.90784$Sf59.8188@fx48.iad>,
    hamilton@invalid.com says...

    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

         My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete >>>>>>>>>> and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in >>>>>>>>>> their
    bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking. >>>>>>>>>>
          Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd >>>>>>>>> be safer living in a tent.

    Old people fall down in the bathroom.  It's the most dangerous >>>>>>>> room in the house.

         Probably more falls happen on staircases. More fires
    start in the kitchen.

         Janet UK

    Stairs come in at 16% for total accidents.  Garden is very high for >>>>>> total accidents.  Falls may differ but not shown here.

    Old people avoid stairs.

    There is a new house being built practically across the street that is a >>>> 2 story house.  One that was built down the street last year is also a 2 >>>> story house.  One would think older people would avoid stairs, yet they >>>> are still building brand new 2 story houses.  Go figure.

    Is there a first-floor bedroom suite?  That can make a lot of difference. >>> The kids can use the second-floor bedroom(s) when they visit, while
    the owners fort up in the first-floor bedroom.

    I honestly don't know if there is a first floor-master bedroom suite.
    The newest house is still being framed.  I don't know the people in the
    house down the street well enough to inquire, although I do see them
    walking their dog sometimes and we wave at each other. :)  I think it
    may also have to do with the size of the lots, which are rather small.
    It's cheaper to build *up* than to pay for a larger lot.

    Jill


    I'm considering moving closer to the water. I put a bit in on thisw
    house but no word yet if accepted

    https://www.zillow.com/homes/100-Bay-Rd-Naples,-FL-34102_rb/43737577_zpid/

    I'm not quite as close as that to the water but I think you'd have to
    worry when the hurricanes arrive :)

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  • From George Sulzbach@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri Feb 23 18:24:33 2024
    Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Feb 2024 16:48:53 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    On 2/23/2024 2:28 PM, jmcquown wrote:
    On 2/22/2024 5:03 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-22, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 5:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-21, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 2:33 PM, Janet wrote:
    In article <CtnBN.90784$Sf59.8188@fx48.iad>,
    hamilton@invalid.com says...

    On 2024-02-21, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456qik6liqvfi5nja9paf@4ax.com>,
    lucretia@florence.it says...

         My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete >>>>>>>>>>> and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in >>>>>>>>>>> their
    bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking. >>>>>>>>>>>
          Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd >>>>>>>>>> be safer living in a tent.

    Old people fall down in the bathroom.  It's the most dangerous >>>>>>>>> room in the house.

         Probably more falls happen on staircases. More fires >>>>>>>> start in the kitchen.

         Janet UK

    Stairs come in at 16% for total accidents.  Garden is very high for >>>>>>> total accidents.  Falls may differ but not shown here.

    Old people avoid stairs.

    There is a new house being built practically across the street that is a >>>>> 2 story house.  One that was built down the street last year is also a 2 >>>>> story house.  One would think older people would avoid stairs, yet they >>>>> are still building brand new 2 story houses.  Go figure.

    Is there a first-floor bedroom suite?  That can make a lot of difference. >>>> The kids can use the second-floor bedroom(s) when they visit, while
    the owners fort up in the first-floor bedroom.

    I honestly don't know if there is a first floor-master bedroom suite.
    The newest house is still being framed.  I don't know the people in the >>> house down the street well enough to inquire, although I do see them
    walking their dog sometimes and we wave at each other. :)  I think it
    may also have to do with the size of the lots, which are rather small.
    It's cheaper to build *up* than to pay for a larger lot.

    Jill


    I'm considering moving closer to the water. I put a bit in on thisw
    house but no word yet if accepted

    https://www.zillow.com/homes/100-Bay-Rd-Naples,-FL-34102_rb/43737577_zpid/

    Is it so cheap because of alligators, because of rising sea levels or
    because houses are that cheap in the US?


    Are the sea levels only rising in the USA?!

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to g.sulzbach@myplace.net on Sat Feb 24 11:50:44 2024
    On Fri, 23 Feb 2024 18:24:33 -0500, George Sulzbach
    <g.sulzbach@myplace.net> wrote:

    Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Feb 2024 16:48:53 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    I'm considering moving closer to the water. I put a bit in on thisw
    house but no word yet if accepted

    https://www.zillow.com/homes/100-Bay-Rd-Naples,-FL-34102_rb/43737577_zpid/ >>
    Is it so cheap because of alligators, because of rising sea levels or
    because houses are that cheap in the US?

    Are the sea levels only rising in the USA?!

    Of course not, nor that I imply that.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri Feb 23 21:25:41 2024
    On 2/23/2024 5:10 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-02-23 4:48 p.m., Ed P wrote:


    I'm considering moving closer to the water.  I put a bit in on thisw
    house but no word yet if accepted

    https://www.zillow.com/homes/100-Bay-Rd-Naples,-FL-34102_rb/43737577_zpid/ >>


    Nice. What's thee catch?

    I just have to be approved for the 295 million mortgage. Taxes are a
    mere $9.9 million a year.

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat Feb 24 19:46:08 2024
    Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2024-02-22 2:39 p.m., cshenk wrote:
    Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2024-02-21 5:20 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 2/21/2024 5:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


    Most do.  I have a friend that will go up the stairs to the
    bathroom instead of using the powder room nearby.  It is a
    form of exercise that I'm willing to avoid.

    I like having a house with no stairs.  Not so much for safety as
    for my knees.


    When I joined the Y I was surprised to see a number of people who
    rode the elevator from the locker room up one floor to the gym. It
    was no surprise to see that they tended to be those who most
    needed to use the stairs.

    Physio therapy sessions are normally on 2nd level here. A lot of
    the gyms give space for medical services to use them if they
    provide the tech for it.

    Yes... and? There was no physiotherapy on the second floor. I
    appreciate you need to defend the slackers but they were just too
    damned lazy to walk.

    Think what you wish Dave, you will anyway.

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