• Re: Dinner Plans for Tuesday, February 13, 2024?

    From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net on Tue Feb 13 21:58:53 2024
    On 2024-02-13, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:

    It's still a bit early for thinking about this evenings meal for some,
    but are you heading out for eats or staying home cooking or grazing?

    Lunch was an egg salad sandwich and a glass of milk. Dinner will
    be a big salad with ham, pepperoni, and provolone on it. Dressed
    with red wine vinegar, Penzey's pizza seasoning, and EVOO.

    After the natural gas guys left here late this morning after putting in
    yet another gas meter and after a few chores, I headed to the kitchen.
    Steve inspired me to make a large pot of chili and it's on the stove
    barely, barely simmering as I write. No hot dogs will be involved with
    this meal, but plenty to share with a neighbor.

    My afternoon was mainly taken up with having my husband's car towed
    to the shop to find out why it was spewing brake fluid.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Tue Feb 13 17:05:53 2024
    On 2024-02-13 4:58 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-13, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:

    It's still a bit early for thinking about this evenings meal for some,
    but are you heading out for eats or staying home cooking or grazing?

    Lunch was an egg salad sandwich and a glass of milk. Dinner will
    be a big salad with ham, pepperoni, and provolone on it. Dressed
    with red wine vinegar, Penzey's pizza seasoning, and EVOO.

    After the natural gas guys left here late this morning after putting in
    yet another gas meter and after a few chores, I headed to the kitchen.
    Steve inspired me to make a large pot of chili and it's on the stove
    barely, barely simmering as I write. No hot dogs will be involved with
    this meal, but plenty to share with a neighbor.

    My afternoon was mainly taken up with having my husband's car towed
    to the shop to find out why it was spewing brake fluid.

    How old is the car? It may have blown a brake line. It happens. They get
    rusted and pop a hole. There is a lot of pressure in those lines and it
    will spew out in now time.

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net on Tue Feb 13 22:14:04 2024
    On 2024-02-13, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:

    It's still a bit early for thinking about this evenings meal for some,
    but are you heading out for eats or staying home cooking or grazing?

    After the natural gas guys left here late this morning after putting in
    yet another gas meter and after a few chores, I headed to the kitchen.
    Steve inspired me to make a large pot of chili and it's on the stove
    barely, barely simmering as I write. No hot dogs will be involved with
    this meal, but plenty to share with a neighbor.


    We will be dining on a Michael Angelo's lasagna tonight with garlic
    bread, giving up space in my freezer.

    Tomorrow, I am going all out and serving my wife a expensive New York
    (boneless beef loin top where I shop) steak with I haven't decided yet.
    I did pick her up some potted tulips at the grocery store for
    Valentine's Day. I like the idea that she'll have to water them. ;)

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net on Tue Feb 13 22:32:25 2024
    On 2024-02-13, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 4:14:10 PM UTC-6, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

    Tomorrow, I am going all out and serving my wife a expensive New York
    (boneless beef loin top where I shop) steak with I haven't decided yet.
    I did pick her up some potted tulips at the grocery store for
    Valentine's Day. I like the idea that she'll have to water them. ;)

    YUM!! How about a baked potato and maybe some asparagus?? If you
    don't want to fool with trying to find some decent spears, how about
    green beans or even broccoli? Even a wedge salad would be good with
    your meal.


    I have both potatoes and asparagus. I usually mash the potatoes but your
    baked potato idea is a real winner. It's easier!
    So I'll do that. Thanks! :)

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Tue Feb 13 23:03:23 2024
    On 2024-02-13, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2024-02-13 4:58 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-13, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote: >>>
    It's still a bit early for thinking about this evenings meal for some,
    but are you heading out for eats or staying home cooking or grazing?

    Lunch was an egg salad sandwich and a glass of milk. Dinner will
    be a big salad with ham, pepperoni, and provolone on it. Dressed
    with red wine vinegar, Penzey's pizza seasoning, and EVOO.

    After the natural gas guys left here late this morning after putting in
    yet another gas meter and after a few chores, I headed to the kitchen.
    Steve inspired me to make a large pot of chili and it's on the stove
    barely, barely simmering as I write. No hot dogs will be involved with
    this meal, but plenty to share with a neighbor.

    My afternoon was mainly taken up with having my husband's car towed
    to the shop to find out why it was spewing brake fluid.

    How old is the car?

    It's a 2009 Toyota FJ Cruiser.

    It may have blown a brake line. It happens. They get
    rusted and pop a hole. There is a lot of pressure in those lines and it
    will spew out in now time.





    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net on Tue Feb 13 18:05:45 2024
    On 2024-02-13 5:18 p.m., itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 3:58:59 PM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


    My afternoon was mainly taken up with having my husband's car towed
    to the shop to find out why it was spewing brake fluid.

    Cindy Hamilton

    EEK!!! I hope the problem was an easy fix!

    I'm heading out early tomorrow morning to take my car to the Ford dealership for
    some service. I'm hoping to be there before they open at 7:30 a.m.


    It won't be cheap cheap, but it should not be too bad. If it is the
    master cylinder a replacement should be available for under $200 and
    they are usually easy to get at. Brake lines should be under $100 and
    an hour or two of labour. A third option would be one of the brake
    cylinders. If they find one brake line ruptured it is a good idea to
    get it's mate replaced, and probably all four. It's a shame to go
    through the hassle to replace the brake lines on one end and a couple
    months later have the other set fail.

    I blew a brake line in our old Buick while exiting a highway. It was embarrassing because we were taking dome Dutch friends to the airport
    and planned to get them checked in and then take them downtown. We were
    able to nurse the car to the hotel and had to pass on the trip downtown.
    I got some more fluid and nursed it to a nearby Canadian Tire garage and pleaded with them to do it immediately because we were from out of town
    and had a dog to get home to. We walked from there to Ikea to kill time
    and get supper and a couple hours later we were on our way. It was surprisingly cheap.

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net on Tue Feb 13 18:55:26 2024
    On 2/13/2024 4:13 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:

    It's still a bit early for thinking about this evenings meal for some,
    but are you heading out for eats or staying home cooking or grazing?

    I thawed a piece of nicely marbled ribeye steak and seasoned it with S&P sprinkled with a little garlic powder. It will be seared in the small
    cast iron skillet then the heat reduced and cooked to medium-rare. I
    haven't decided what will go with it yet.

    Jill

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net on Thu Feb 15 15:17:27 2024
    On 2024-02-13, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:

    YUM!! How about a baked potato and maybe some asparagus?? If you
    don't want to fool with trying to find some decent spears, how about
    green beans or even broccoli? Even a wedge salad would be good with
    your meal.


    Ask, and "she" shall receive. This is the entirety of my contribution to Valentines Day for my wife. Well that and a Edwards frozen key lime pie
    slice.
    I did have to go to the store, because our sour cream was a month out of
    date. ;)

    <https://postimg.cc/TLghmW4f>

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net on Thu Feb 15 22:35:17 2024
    On 2024-02-15, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:
    On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 9:17:34 AM UTC-6, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

    I did have to go to the store, because our sour cream was a month out of
    date. ;)

    <https://postimg.cc/TLghmW4f>

    Looks very, very drool worthy! Pretty tulips, too. But had your sour cream turned hard and dried out in the container or even moldy?


    No, it was just a little runny and smelled fine. My wife is of the
    opinion that sour cream is sour cream. What could go wrong?
    Nevertheless, it was an open container for at least two months, and I
    didn't want to take any chances, especially on Valentine's Day.
    She also got a key lime pie and a box of chocolates out of the trip. :)

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net on Fri Feb 16 22:50:13 2024
    On 2024-02-15, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:

    A vigorous stir would probably brought that sour cream back up to par.
    But like you said, she got a bonus with your trip to the store. Will you be planting those tulips in the yard come fall?

    I will almost certainly not be planting the bulbs in the yard. I quit
    watering last summer, and I mean QUIT! I have a dead arborvitae and two
    dead lilacs that should be hauled away. My over forty year old rose is
    on its last legs. It's all for Mother Gaia!
    We do have African violets and a shamrock as house plants. Maybe I'll
    see if it's plausible to keep tulips alive that way.
    I used to love crocuses and watched them come up in late Winter, but my interest in yard work waned greatly over the years. Then "Poof!", it went
    away. :(

    (My buttercups are up about 6 or 8 inches and will be blooming very, very soon.)

    The great bloom is right around the corner. I *do* envy well kept yards.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net on Sat Feb 17 10:37:00 2024
    On 16 Feb 2024 22:50:13 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
    <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 2024-02-15, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:

    A vigorous stir would probably brought that sour cream back up to par.
    But like you said, she got a bonus with your trip to the store. Will you be >> planting those tulips in the yard come fall?

    I will almost certainly not be planting the bulbs in the yard. I quit >watering last summer, and I mean QUIT! I have a dead arborvitae and two
    dead lilacs that should be hauled away. My over forty year old rose is
    on its last legs. It's all for Mother Gaia!
    We do have African violets and a shamrock as house plants. Maybe I'll
    see if it's plausible to keep tulips alive that way.
    I used to love crocuses and watched them come up in late Winter, but my >interest in yard work waned greatly over the years. Then "Poof!", it went >away. :(

    (My buttercups are up about 6 or 8 inches and will be blooming very, very soon.)

    The great bloom is right around the corner. I *do* envy well kept yards.

    Me too. I wish we had one.

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Fri Feb 16 21:25:34 2024
    Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    ...
    We do have African violets and a shamrock as house plants. Maybe I'll
    see if it's plausible to keep tulips alive that way.
    I used to love crocuses and watched them come up in late Winter, but my interest in yard work waned greatly over the years. Then "Poof!", it went away. :(

    tulips are unlikely to do well as houseplants as they
    usually require a cool period and then there are months
    at a time when they look dormant (but might not be since
    they grow in stages underground before poking up in the
    spring to flower).


    songbird

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net on Sat Feb 17 10:18:53 2024
    On 2024-02-17, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:
    On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 8:51:49 PM UTC-6, songbird wrote:

    Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    ...
    We do have African violets and a shamrock as house plants. Maybe I'll
    see if it's plausible to keep tulips alive that way.
    I used to love crocuses and watched them come up in late Winter, but my
    interest in yard work waned greatly over the years. Then "Poof!", it went >> > away. :(

    tulips are unlikely to do well as houseplants as they
    usually require a cool period and then there are months
    at a time when they look dormant (but might not be since
    they grow in stages underground before poking up in the
    spring to flower).

    songbird

    True, that's why they should be planted in the fall.

    Sure. But you can plant them in the spring if you're willing
    to do without blooms the first year.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat Feb 17 07:28:33 2024
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    ...tulips...
    Sure. But you can plant them in the spring if you're willing
    to do without blooms the first year.

    many bulbs sold at the store will only bloom well the
    first season. after that all bets are off because the
    conditions have to be very suitable for them and many
    are not strong rebloomers. many people who are really
    concerned with tulips and bloom quality will just treat
    them as an annual and replant every season (the flower
    is already in the bulb you buy from the store).

    at one time i had the idea of starting to work on
    developing new tulips. then i found out how unsuited
    my location really is. had 80-100 different varieties
    of tulips. i may have 20 or so left now. all the
    herbivores eat them plus there are some diseases that
    once get going will do a number, plus soil conditions
    and other issues...


    songbird

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat Feb 17 09:56:57 2024
    On 2024-02-17 5:18 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-17, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:


    True, that's why they should be planted in the fall.

    Sure. But you can plant them in the spring if you're willing
    to do without blooms the first year.


    You can force some bulbs by sticking them in a freezer for a while
    before planting them.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to songbird on Sat Feb 17 15:40:33 2024
    On 2024-02-17, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    ...tulips...
    Sure. But you can plant them in the spring if you're willing
    to do without blooms the first year.

    many bulbs sold at the store will only bloom well the
    first season. after that all bets are off because the
    conditions have to be very suitable for them and many
    are not strong rebloomers. many people who are really
    concerned with tulips and bloom quality will just treat
    them as an annual and replant every season (the flower
    is already in the bulb you buy from the store).

    I know. The stupid red and yellow tulips (that make my
    house look like it was landscaped according to the aesthetics
    of a Shell gas station) planted by the previous owner are
    strong rebloomers. I haven't quite been able to implement
    the scorched-earth policy necessary to eradicate them. It has
    been 24 years. Maybe I'll start trying to weaken them by
    cutting off the foliage as soon as they come out of the ground.
    Their season is so short, the offense is quickly gone.

    The pink and white tulips that complement the split fieldstone
    of my house died out after a few seasons.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Sat Feb 17 11:44:24 2024
    On 2/15/2024 10:17 AM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2024-02-13, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:

    YUM!! How about a baked potato and maybe some asparagus?? If you
    don't want to fool with trying to find some decent spears, how about
    green beans or even broccoli? Even a wedge salad would be good with
    your meal.


    Ask, and "she" shall receive. This is the entirety of my contribution to Valentines Day for my wife. Well that and a Edwards frozen key lime pie slice.
    I did have to go to the store, because our sour cream was a month out of date. ;)

    <https://postimg.cc/TLghmW4f>


    That looks very good, Leo! I like the potted tulips, too. :)

    Jill

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Sat Feb 17 11:55:02 2024
    On 2/15/2024 5:35 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2024-02-15, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:
    On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 9:17:34 AM UTC-6, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

    I did have to go to the store, because our sour cream was a month out of >>> date. ;)

    <https://postimg.cc/TLghmW4f>

    Looks very, very drool worthy! Pretty tulips, too. But had your sour cream >> turned hard and dried out in the container or even moldy?


    No, it was just a little runny and smelled fine. My wife is of the
    opinion that sour cream is sour cream. What could go wrong?
    Nevertheless, it was an open container for at least two months, and I
    didn't want to take any chances, especially on Valentine's Day.
    She also got a key lime pie and a box of chocolates out of the trip. :)

    Nice! About the sour cream:

    https://therustyspoon.com/expired-sour-cream/

    Jill

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net on Sat Feb 17 11:54:17 2024
    On 2/15/2024 4:23 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
    On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 9:17:34 AM UTC-6, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

    On 2024-02-13, itsjoan...@webtv.net <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

    YUM!! How about a baked potato and maybe some asparagus?? If you
    don't want to fool with trying to find some decent spears, how about
    green beans or even broccoli? Even a wedge salad would be good with
    your meal.

    Ask, and "she" shall receive. This is the entirety of my contribution to
    Valentines Day for my wife. Well that and a Edwards frozen key lime pie
    slice.
    I did have to go to the store, because our sour cream was a month out of
    date. ;)

    <https://postimg.cc/TLghmW4f>

    Looks very, very drool worthy! Pretty tulips, too. But had your sour cream turned hard and dried out in the container or even moldy?

    The last time I bought sour cream (Daisy brand) I bought it in a squeeze
    tube. Handy, but it makes it hard to tell if it's "bad" or not. When
    it doubt, throw it out. ;)

    Jill

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat Feb 17 15:47:51 2024
    Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-02-17 5:18 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-17, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:


    True, that's why they should be planted in the fall.

    Sure. But you can plant them in the spring if you're willing
    to do without blooms the first year.


    You can force some bulbs by sticking them in a freezer for a while
    before planting them.

    freezer might be too cold for some, refridgerator may
    do better.


    songbird

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat Feb 17 15:46:55 2024
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    ...tulips and reblooming...
    I know. The stupid red and yellow tulips (that make my
    house look like it was landscaped according to the aesthetics
    of a Shell gas station) planted by the previous owner are
    strong rebloomers. I haven't quite been able to implement
    the scorched-earth policy necessary to eradicate them. It has
    been 24 years. Maybe I'll start trying to weaken them by
    cutting off the foliage as soon as they come out of the ground.
    Their season is so short, the offense is quickly gone.

    to eradicate them it will take 3-5 years depending
    upon how frequently you remove the foliage. basically
    what you are doing is the opposite of what they did to
    get enough energy to get to blooming sized bulbs. since
    bulbs do store energy and can survive a poor season they
    need to be chopped back multiple times to deplete the
    store of energy remaining in the bulb (which reforms
    itself each year).


    The pink and white tulips that complement the split fieldstone
    of my house died out after a few seasons.

    some are really nice looking and i really liked them
    when they showed up, but after a few years with competition,
    diseases and animals they did not return.

    the website has pictures... https://www.anthive.com/project/tulips/


    songbird

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Sat Feb 17 21:38:56 2024
    On 2024-02-17, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    The last time I bought sour cream (Daisy brand) I bought it in a squeeze tube. Handy, but it makes it hard to tell if it's "bad" or not. When
    it doubt, throw it out. ;)


    Daisy is what I buy, only in a tub. It's interesting to see that it's a national brand.

    leo

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Sat Feb 17 21:35:16 2024
    On 2024-02-17, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    Nice! About the sour cream:

    https://therustyspoon.com/expired-sour-cream/


    Look, taste, smell, I probably shouldn't have thrown it out. ;)
    The good news is that the sour cream I just bought is "best by"
    April 22nd! And I bought a smaller tub.
    I like sour cream. I just don't think of it until I make baked potatoes.

    leo

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Sat Feb 17 21:57:07 2024
    On 2024-02-17, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    On 2024-02-17, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    Nice! About the sour cream:

    https://therustyspoon.com/expired-sour-cream/


    Look, taste, smell, I probably shouldn't have thrown it out. ;)
    The good news is that the sour cream I just bought is "best by"
    April 22nd! And I bought a smaller tub.
    I like sour cream. I just don't think of it until I make baked potatoes.

    Goodness. If I had sour cream on hand, I'd use it on everything.
    Even a spoon.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to songbird on Sat Feb 17 16:59:20 2024
    On 2024-02-17 3:46 p.m., songbird wrote:
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    ...tulips and reblooming...
    I know. The stupid red and yellow tulips (that make my
    house look like it was landscaped according to the aesthetics
    of a Shell gas station) planted by the previous owner are
    strong rebloomers. I haven't quite been able to implement
    the scorched-earth policy necessary to eradicate them. It has
    been 24 years. Maybe I'll start trying to weaken them by
    cutting off the foliage as soon as they come out of the ground.
    Their season is so short, the offense is quickly gone.

    to eradicate them it will take 3-5 years depending
    upon how frequently you remove the foliage. basically
    what you are doing is the opposite of what they did to
    get enough energy to get to blooming sized bulbs. since
    bulbs do store energy and can survive a poor season they
    need to be chopped back multiple times to deplete the
    store of energy remaining in the bulb (which reforms
    itself each year).


    The pink and white tulips that complement the split fieldstone
    of my house died out after a few seasons.

    some are really nice looking and i really liked them
    when they showed up, but after a few years with competition,
    diseases and animals they did not return.

    My understanding is that tulips fade over time for one reason or
    another. If you notice your tulips becoming unacceptably dull you should
    dig them up, discard them and replace them with fresher bulbs.... in the
    fall. Squirrels also like to dig them up and eat them.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Sat Feb 17 22:00:16 2024
    On 2024-02-17, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    On 2024-02-17, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    The last time I bought sour cream (Daisy brand) I bought it in a squeeze
    tube. Handy, but it makes it hard to tell if it's "bad" or not. When
    it doubt, throw it out. ;)


    Daisy is what I buy, only in a tub. It's interesting to see that it's a national brand.

    I like Breakstone's, but Daisy is good in a pinch. The store brand
    where I shop is good, too: not all crapped up with thickeners.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to songbird on Sat Feb 17 17:02:02 2024
    On 2024-02-17 3:47 p.m., songbird wrote:
    Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-02-17 5:18 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-17, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote: >>

    True, that's why they should be planted in the fall.

    Sure. But you can plant them in the spring if you're willing
    to do without blooms the first year.


    You can force some bulbs by sticking them in a freezer for a while
    before planting them.

    freezer might be too cold for some, refridgerator may
    do better.


    Not too cold for tulips and daffodils. They are planted shallow enough
    that around here the ground is frozen solid for much of the winter.
    Garlic survived several winters here. Dahlias and Canna lilies have to
    be dug up and kept inside for the winter.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Sat Feb 17 17:13:57 2024
    On 2/17/2024 4:35 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2024-02-17, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    Nice! About the sour cream:

    https://therustyspoon.com/expired-sour-cream/


    Look, taste, smell, I probably shouldn't have thrown it out. ;)
    The good news is that the sour cream I just bought is "best by"
    April 22nd! And I bought a smaller tub.
    I like sour cream. I just don't think of it until I make baked potatoes.

    leo


    I buy the squeeze tube. Seems to last longer and does not separate.

    I often add a blob to some salad dressing to make it creamier, put some
    in the meatloaf I made yesterday. Mix with ketchup for a dipping sauce.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net on Sat Feb 17 19:09:27 2024
    itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
    On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 5:44:40 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:

    I like baked potatoes. I just don't like making them. Sour cream sits for months
    in our refrigerator.

    Why? What's so hard or annoying about making baked potatoes?


    Dammit, he's asian. They don't use much dairy products like
    their oppressors (da white honkeys).

    Good news is that you'll only have to listen to uncle tojo's
    whining for 5 more days.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net on Sat Feb 17 22:32:42 2024
    itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
    On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 7:09:40 PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote:

    itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

    On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 5:44:40 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:

    I like baked potatoes. I just don't like making them. Sour cream sits for months
    in our refrigerator.

    What's so hard or annoying about making baked potatoes?

    Dammit, he's asian. They don't use much dairy products like
    their oppressors (da white honkeys).

    Good news is that you'll only have to listen to uncle tojo's
    whining for 5 more days.

    Me, too. I'll be gone in 5 more days.


    That's too bad. What happened?

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net on Sun Feb 18 15:23:15 2024
    On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 19:36:31 -0800 (PST), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:

    On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 7:09:40 PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote:

    itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

    On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 5:44:40 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:

    I like baked potatoes. I just don't like making them. Sour cream sits for months
    in our refrigerator.

    What's so hard or annoying about making baked potatoes?

    Dammit, he's asian. They don't use much dairy products like
    their oppressors (da white honkeys).

    Good news is that you'll only have to listen to uncle tojo's
    whining for 5 more days.

    Me, too. I'll be gone in 5 more days.

    Will you go down with the Titanic? Can't the Sisterhood help?

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net on Sat Feb 17 23:51:50 2024
    On 2/17/2024 11:42 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
    On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 10:32:51 PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote:

    itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

    On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 7:09:40 PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote: >>>>
    Good news is that you'll only have to listen to uncle tojo's
    whining for 5 more days.

    Me, too. I'll be gone in 5 more days.

    That's too bad. What happened?

    All good things must come to an end.


    Don't let that happen. Plenty of ways to be here.
    Download Thunderbird or Agent for starters.
    Then Blocknews.net or eternal september.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sun Feb 18 16:06:21 2024
    On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 23:51:50 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    On 2/17/2024 11:42 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
    On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 10:32:51 PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote: >>>
    itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

    On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 7:09:40 PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote: >>>>>
    Good news is that you'll only have to listen to uncle tojo's
    whining for 5 more days.

    Me, too. I'll be gone in 5 more days.

    That's too bad. What happened?

    All good things must come to an end.

    Don't let that happen. Plenty of ways to be here.
    Download Thunderbird or Agent for starters.
    Then Blocknews.net or eternal september.

    I'd say Thunderbird. I use Agent myself and I'm used to it, but I find
    it needlessly complicated.

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  • From lucretia@florence.it@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sun Feb 18 07:49:23 2024
    On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 23:51:50 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    On 2/17/2024 11:42 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
    On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 10:32:51?PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote:

    itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

    On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 7:09:40?PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote: >>>>>
    Good news is that you'll only have to listen to uncle tojo's
    whining for 5 more days.

    Me, too. I'll be gone in 5 more days.

    That's too bad. What happened?

    All good things must come to an end.


    Don't let that happen. Plenty of ways to be here.
    Download Thunderbird or Agent for starters.
    Then Blocknews.net or eternal september.

    I use TBird for getting the posts etc and Agent to read them. I think
    Agent is pretty much extinct now, only assistance I could get was
    Ralph on their usenet group.

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  • From heyjoe@21:1/5 to itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net on Sun Feb 18 13:32:24 2024
    itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote :

    On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 10:32:51 PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote:

    itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

    Me, too. I'll be gone in 5 more days.

    That's too bad. What happened?

    All good things must come to an end.

    There are other sites that can be used with a browser to read and post
    to usenet. Will be sorry to see you go silent. You're one of the few googlegroupers that talks about food (sometimes).

    --
    Procrastination . . .
    is the key to flexibility.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sun Feb 18 09:07:32 2024
    On 2024-02-17 11:51 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 2/17/2024 11:42 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:

    All good things must come to an end.


    Don't let that happen.  Plenty of ways to be here.
    Download Thunderbird or Agent for starters.
    Then Blocknews.net or eternal september.

    I access it through newshosting.com

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Mon Feb 19 05:33:39 2024
    On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 07:49:23 -0400, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 23:51:50 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    On 2/17/2024 11:42 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
    On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 10:32:51?PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote: >>>>
    itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

    On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 7:09:40?PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote: >>>>>>
    Good news is that you'll only have to listen to uncle tojo's
    whining for 5 more days.

    Me, too. I'll be gone in 5 more days.

    That's too bad. What happened?

    All good things must come to an end.


    Don't let that happen. Plenty of ways to be here.
    Download Thunderbird or Agent for starters.
    Then Blocknews.net or eternal september.

    I use TBird for getting the posts etc and Agent to read them. I think
    Agent is pretty much extinct now, only assistance I could get was
    Ralph on their usenet group.

    You download them in one software and read them in another? How do you
    transfer them from Thunderbird to Agent?

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Sun Feb 18 18:50:46 2024
    Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

    On 2024-02-17, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    The last time I bought sour cream (Daisy brand) I bought it in a
    squeeze tube. Handy, but it makes it hard to tell if it's "bad" or
    not. When it doubt, throw it out. ;)


    Daisy is what I buy, only in a tub. It's interesting to see that it's
    a national brand.

    leo

    Yes, it is and I get it too here in VB.

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sun Feb 18 18:54:08 2024
    Bruce wrote:

    On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 23:51:50 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    On 2/17/2024 11:42 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
    On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 10:32:51 PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers
    wrote:

    itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

    On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 7:09:40 PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers
    wrote:

    Good news is that you'll only have to listen to uncle tojo's
    whining for 5 more days.

    Me, too. I'll be gone in 5 more days.

    That's too bad. What happened?

    All good things must come to an end.

    Don't let that happen. Plenty of ways to be here.
    Download Thunderbird or Agent for starters.
    Then Blocknews.net or eternal september.

    I'd say Thunderbird. I use Agent myself and I'm used to it, but I find
    it needlessly complicated.

    xananews. Does all they do but not complex to setup. (free, still
    supported).

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to cshenk@virginia-beach.net on Mon Feb 19 06:22:40 2024
    On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 18:54:08 +0000, "cshenk"
    <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:

    Bruce wrote:

    On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 23:51:50 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    On 2/17/2024 11:42 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
    On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 10:32:51 PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers
    wrote:

    itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

    On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 7:09:40 PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers
    wrote:

    Good news is that you'll only have to listen to uncle tojo's
    whining for 5 more days.

    Me, too. I'll be gone in 5 more days.

    That's too bad. What happened?

    All good things must come to an end.

    Don't let that happen. Plenty of ways to be here.
    Download Thunderbird or Agent for starters.
    Then Blocknews.net or eternal september.

    I'd say Thunderbird. I use Agent myself and I'm used to it, but I find
    it needlessly complicated.

    xananews. Does all they do but not complex to setup. (free, still >supported).

    But your Xananews is still making a mess of quoted text when it goes
    back more levels than Xananews can handle.

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  • From lucretia@florence.it@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 18 18:47:49 2024
    On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 05:33:39 +1100, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 07:49:23 -0400, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 23:51:50 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    On 2/17/2024 11:42 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
    On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 10:32:51?PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote: >>>>>
    itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

    On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 7:09:40?PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote: >>>>>>>
    Good news is that you'll only have to listen to uncle tojo's
    whining for 5 more days.

    Me, too. I'll be gone in 5 more days.

    That's too bad. What happened?

    All good things must come to an end.


    Don't let that happen. Plenty of ways to be here.
    Download Thunderbird or Agent for starters.
    Then Blocknews.net or eternal september.

    I use TBird for getting the posts etc and Agent to read them. I think >>Agent is pretty much extinct now, only assistance I could get was
    Ralph on their usenet group.

    You download them in one software and read them in another? How do you >transfer them from Thunderbird to Agent?

    No good asking me I'm afraid, my tech guru set it up for me. I can
    still read it in TBird if I wish, but Agent 8 feels more normal to me
    after all these years. The reason he set it up was with Agent and apn
    (Agents own system) it became impossible and since I was paying a
    monthly fee for apn, I quit it.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Mon Feb 19 09:55:03 2024
    On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 18:47:49 -0400, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 05:33:39 +1100, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 07:49:23 -0400, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 23:51:50 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    On 2/17/2024 11:42 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
    On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 10:32:51?PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote: >>>>>>
    itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

    On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 7:09:40?PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote: >>>>>>>>
    Good news is that you'll only have to listen to uncle tojo's
    whining for 5 more days.

    Me, too. I'll be gone in 5 more days.

    That's too bad. What happened?

    All good things must come to an end.


    Don't let that happen. Plenty of ways to be here.
    Download Thunderbird or Agent for starters.
    Then Blocknews.net or eternal september.

    I use TBird for getting the posts etc and Agent to read them. I think >>>Agent is pretty much extinct now, only assistance I could get was
    Ralph on their usenet group.

    You download them in one software and read them in another? How do you >>transfer them from Thunderbird to Agent?

    No good asking me I'm afraid, my tech guru set it up for me. I can
    still read it in TBird if I wish, but Agent 8 feels more normal to me
    after all these years. The reason he set it up was with Agent and apn >(Agents own system) it became impossible and since I was paying a
    monthly fee for apn, I quit it.

    Ok, most likely you're also downloading the posts in Agent, and then
    you read and reply to them in Agent as well. Thunderbird also
    downloads them, but you don't use that. I don't know, but that's how
    it sounds to me.

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net on Mon Feb 19 21:35:04 2024
    On 2024-02-18, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:
    On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 7:09:40 PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote:

    Good news is that you'll only have to listen to uncle tojo's
    whining for 5 more days.

    Me, too. I'll be gone in 5 more days.


    If so, it'll break my heart. You're one of the "good ones". :(
    Where will I get my "Music City" updates? Then, I won't be able to say
    "I know a gal in Nashville..."
    I hope this gets sorted out in my favor. 💔

    This post has been vetted by leo's wife 😊

    leo

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