• Re: REQUEST: Hamburgers on the grill

    From Ed P@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 6 13:48:36 2024
    On 2/6/2024 1:35 PM, dsi1 wrote:
    On Thursday, April 21, 1994 at 2:05:50 PM UTC-10, Mil...@idx.com wrote:
    : Ramsborg Joel (rams...@cae.wisc.edu) wrote:
    : : I am looking for a recipe/method for cooking hamburgers on the grill
    (other
    : : that cooking straight hamburger). I have heard of putting bread crumbs, >> egg,
    : : onion soup mix, etc., in the mix before cooking the meat, but can't seem
    to
    : : find anything written down.
    I'll tell you what I add to my ground hamburger (or ground turkey) to make >> great-tasting, juicy burgers. The only problem is, I do this "to taste" so >> I'll give you the ingredients and approximate how much to add. However, since
    I have not made these since LAST summer, judge accordingly. My memory on the >> amounts is probably off.
    1/2 lb ground beef or turkey
    2 Tblsp Worsteshire (sp?) sauce
    2 Tblsp grated parmesan cheese
    1 Tblsp dried onion
    1/2 tsp seasoned salt
    1/8 tsp creole seasoning
    salt, to taste
    pepper, to taste
    1/4 garlic powder
    Mix together until well blended. Misture should "appear" darker due to the >> sauce. I usually "taste" it at this point to see if it needs anything. Grill >> as usual.
    Tracy MIL...@IDX.com
    We find these to be tasty enough NOT to require ketchup or mustard or anything
    except a slice of swiss cheese, (of course)....

    It's probably a good idea to cook ground turkey to well done but I could be wrong. I'm actually afraid of ground turkey.


    Nothing to be afraid of. It is only the meat. They remove the bones,
    guts, and feathers before grinding.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to dsi123@hawaiiantel.net on Tue Feb 6 19:19:57 2024
    On 2024-02-06, dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
    On Thursday, April 21, 1994 at 2:05:50 PM UTC-10, Mil...@idx.com wrote:
    : Ramsborg Joel (rams...@cae.wisc.edu) wrote:
    : : I am looking for a recipe/method for cooking hamburgers on the grill >> (other
    : : that cooking straight hamburger). I have heard of putting bread crumbs,
    egg,
    : : onion soup mix, etc., in the mix before cooking the meat, but can't seem
    to
    : : find anything written down.
    I'll tell you what I add to my ground hamburger (or ground turkey) to make >> great-tasting, juicy burgers. The only problem is, I do this "to taste" so >> I'll give you the ingredients and approximate how much to add. However, since
    I have not made these since LAST summer, judge accordingly. My memory on the >> amounts is probably off.
    1/2 lb ground beef or turkey
    2 Tblsp Worsteshire (sp?) sauce
    2 Tblsp grated parmesan cheese
    1 Tblsp dried onion
    1/2 tsp seasoned salt
    1/8 tsp creole seasoning
    salt, to taste
    pepper, to taste
    1/4 garlic powder
    Mix together until well blended. Misture should "appear" darker due to the >> sauce. I usually "taste" it at this point to see if it needs anything. Grill >> as usual.
    Tracy MIL...@IDX.com
    We find these to be tasty enough NOT to require ketchup or mustard or anything
    except a slice of swiss cheese, (of course)....

    It's probably a good idea to cook ground turkey to well done but I could be wrong. I'm actually afraid of ground turkey.

    I thought only white people were afraid of food.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to hamilton@invalid.com on Wed Feb 7 06:30:52 2024
    On Tue, 06 Feb 2024 19:19:57 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
    <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2024-02-06, dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

    It's probably a good idea to cook ground turkey to well done but I could be wrong. I'm actually afraid of ground turkey.

    I thought only white people were afraid of food.

    :)

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 6 14:26:26 2024
    dsi1 wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 1994 at 9:26:22 AM UTC-10, denn...@mauigateway.com wrote:
    One of my favorite hamburger variations is to stuff them with chopped
    green onion and mushrooms. I make two thin patties and put some green
    onions and mushrooms on top of one, top it with the other and pinch
    the edges together. It's really good.
    Before all the e-coli threat, I used to stuff my burgers with ice cubes.
    When cooked on a flaming hot grill, the outsides get charred and yummy
    and the insides stayed rare.
    Now, with poor sanitation in some slaughterhouses, I grind all my own
    meat and cook my hamburgers to medium. No more rare burgers for me,
    thank you...
    You should try stuffing your patties with sauteed mushrooms and slices
    of cheese. MMmmm...

    Stuffing a burger with ice cubes seems pretty radical. You could also try cooking your patties while frozen. My guess is that if you grind your own meat, your risk of e-coli is minimal i.e., you could eat your hamburger raw. I don't have any problem
    with cooking up or eating a rare burger. Mostly, I prefer a medium rare burger.


    Dammit tojo, get back to da future. That's way in da past,
    yoose crazy asian.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to dsi123@hawaiiantel.net on Tue Feb 6 22:07:18 2024
    On 2024-02-06, dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 at 9:20:14 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-06, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
    On Thursday, April 21, 1994 at 2:05:50 PM UTC-10, Mil...@idx.com wrote: >> >> > : Ramsborg Joel (rams...@cae.wisc.edu) wrote:
    : : I am looking for a recipe/method for cooking hamburgers on the grill
    (other
    : : that cooking straight hamburger). I have heard of putting bread crumbs,
    egg,
    : : onion soup mix, etc., in the mix before cooking the meat, but can't seem
    to
    : : find anything written down.
    I'll tell you what I add to my ground hamburger (or ground turkey) to make
    great-tasting, juicy burgers. The only problem is, I do this "to taste" so
    I'll give you the ingredients and approximate how much to add. However, since
    I have not made these since LAST summer, judge accordingly. My memory on the
    amounts is probably off.
    1/2 lb ground beef or turkey
    2 Tblsp Worsteshire (sp?) sauce
    2 Tblsp grated parmesan cheese
    1 Tblsp dried onion
    1/2 tsp seasoned salt
    1/8 tsp creole seasoning
    salt, to taste
    pepper, to taste
    1/4 garlic powder
    Mix together until well blended. Misture should "appear" darker due to the
    sauce. I usually "taste" it at this point to see if it needs anything. Grill
    as usual.
    Tracy MIL...@IDX.com
    We find these to be tasty enough NOT to require ketchup or mustard or anything
    except a slice of swiss cheese, (of course)....

    It's probably a good idea to cook ground turkey to well done but I could be wrong. I'm actually afraid of ground turkey.
    I thought only white people were afraid of food.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

    Feel free to gobble all the ground turkey that yoose can handle, white girl.

    That would be zero. I'll take ground pork instead.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Tue Feb 6 17:59:53 2024
    On 2/6/2024 5:07 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-06, dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
    It's probably a good idea to cook ground turkey to well done but I could be wrong. I'm actually afraid of ground turkey.
    I thought only white people were afraid of food.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

    Feel free to gobble all the ground turkey that yoose can handle, white girl.

    That would be zero. I'll take ground pork instead.

    Ground turkey needs a heck of a lot of seasoning to make it taste
    anything other than blah.

    Jill

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Tue Feb 6 23:09:23 2024
    jmcquown wrote:
    On 2/6/2024 5:07 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-06, dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
    It's probably a good idea to cook ground turkey to well done but I could be wrong. I'm actually afraid of ground turkey.
    I thought only white people were afraid of food.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

    Feel free to gobble all the ground turkey that yoose can handle, white girl.

    That would be zero. I'll take ground pork instead.

    Ground turkey needs a heck of a lot of seasoning to make it taste
    anything other than blah.

    BBQ sauce to the rescue!


    songbird (just joking, i wouldn't cook with it unless i
    had to...

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 6 23:07:36 2024
    dsi1 wrote:
    ...ground turkey...
    I remember watching a guy kill and pull the guts out of chickens when I was a kid. Turkey has a back-taste that reeks of chicken guts. Oddly enough, chickens don't have the taste of chicken guts. As far as safety goes. Trying to grill turkey burgers is
    just asking for trouble.

    as a kid i was blessed to experience a bunch of drunk
    guys cleaning several hundred ducks - i don't think i'll
    ever forget that smell. i like dark meat but i've not
    had duck very often and i like the dark meat of roasted
    turkey (along with the rest of it) but i do not like
    ground turkey at all. completely different foods to me
    and i won't bother with one while i will greatly enjoy
    the other.

    i'd not touch a grill with it or ground chicken. both
    are probably pretty laden with bacteria/etc.


    songbird

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Wed Feb 7 21:07:37 2024
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2024-02-06, dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
    Feel free to gobble all the ground turkey that yoose can handle,
    white girl.

    That would be zero. I'll take ground pork instead.

    You'd be happy here!

    W got an 8lb pork butt for 99cents a lb last week. We cut off 2 12oz
    pork steaks and vacumn sealed them 1 to a bag, then a 12oz bag of pork
    stew meat (sealed same). We ground the rest and started a bean pot
    with the meaty bone.

    I have about 5.5lbs of ground pork in 8oz separate vacumn bags. When
    we use it, we need either 1/2lb or 1lb ground so it's easiest to go 1/2
    lb and just grab 2 if needed.

    I left in the fridge, 2 bags to make lumpia and Don used 1 for making
    fresh sausage meatballs for dinner last night.

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to songbird on Wed Feb 7 21:13:37 2024
    songbird wrote:

    dsi1 wrote:
    ...ground turkey...
    I remember watching a guy kill and pull the guts out of chickens
    when I was a kid. Turkey has a back-taste that reeks of chicken
    guts. Oddly enough, chickens don't have the taste of chicken guts.
    As far as safety goes. Trying to grill turkey burgers is just
    asking for trouble.

    as a kid i was blessed to experience a bunch of drunk
    guys cleaning several hundred ducks - i don't think i'll
    ever forget that smell. i like dark meat but i've not
    had duck very often and i like the dark meat of roasted
    turkey (along with the rest of it) but i do not like
    ground turkey at all. completely different foods to me
    and i won't bother with one while i will greatly enjoy
    the other.

    (snips)

    Harris Teeter added frozen Turkey wings, thighs, and drumsticks, We
    get the thighs about once a month.

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to songbird on Wed Feb 7 17:02:41 2024
    On 2/6/2024 11:09 PM, songbird wrote:
    jmcquown wrote:
    On 2/6/2024 5:07 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-06, dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
    It's probably a good idea to cook ground turkey to well done but I could be wrong. I'm actually afraid of ground turkey.
    I thought only white people were afraid of food.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

    Feel free to gobble all the ground turkey that yoose can handle, white girl.

    That would be zero. I'll take ground pork instead.

    Ground turkey needs a heck of a lot of seasoning to make it taste
    anything other than blah.

    BBQ sauce to the rescue!


    songbird (just joking, i wouldn't cook with it unless i
    had to...

    LOL! When ground turkey became a sort of fad thing back in the 1980's I
    found some recipes in Cooking Light Magazine for using it as burgers.
    Mostly they contained a lot of spices to punch it up. IIRC one called
    for browning the "burgers", placing them in a baking dish, pouring over seasoned tomato sauce, topping with shredded mozz and popping it in the
    oven until the cheese melted. It wasn't bad but wasn't worth bothering
    with except perhaps for the [at the time] lower price. In those days
    ground turkey was touted as "healthier" (aka less fat) than ground beef.
    It was later revealed the fatty skin was being ground in along with
    the meat. I don't think they do that anymore. I haven't checked the
    price of ground turkey lately but there is still plenty of it in the
    meat case at the grocery store.

    Jill

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  • From Gary@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 8 07:05:45 2024
    On 2/6/2024 1:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 1994 at 9:26:22 AM UTC-10, denn...@mauigateway.com wrote:
    One of my favorite hamburger variations is to stuff them with chopped
    green onion and mushrooms. I make two thin patties and put some green
    onions and mushrooms on top of one, top it with the other and pinch
    the edges together. It's really good.
    Before all the e-coli threat, I used to stuff my burgers with ice cubes.
    When cooked on a flaming hot grill, the outsides get charred and yummy
    and the insides stayed rare.
    Now, with poor sanitation in some slaughterhouses, I grind all my own
    meat and cook my hamburgers to medium. No more rare burgers for me,
    thank you...
    You should try stuffing your patties with sauteed mushrooms and slices
    of cheese. MMmmm...

    Stuffing a burger with ice cubes seems pretty radical. You could also try cooking your patties while frozen. My guess is that if you grind your own meat, your risk of e-coli is minimal i.e., you could eat your hamburger raw. I don't have any problem
    with cooking up or eating a rare burger. Mostly, I prefer a medium rare burger.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/crUeEK6dhLTGvk4q7

    That burger stands out to me!
    Plain and simple = simply delicious.
    :)

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to bruce2bowser@gmail.com on Sat Feb 10 12:33:56 2024
    On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 20:22:52 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
    <bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 at 3:00:04 PM UTC-8, jmcquown wrote:
    On 2/6/2024 5:07 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-02-06, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
    It's probably a good idea to cook ground turkey to well done but I could be wrong. I'm actually afraid of ground turkey.
    I thought only white people were afraid of food.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

    Feel free to gobble all the ground turkey that yoose can handle, white girl.

    That would be zero. I'll take ground pork instead.

    Ground turkey needs a heck of a lot of seasoning to make it taste
    anything other than blah.

    Already-seasoned turkey burgers are great. No other preps are necessary.

    Isn't that your approach to all food?

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to cshenk on Sat Feb 10 19:52:35 2024
    cshenk wrote:

    Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2024-02-06, dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
    Feel free to gobble all the ground turkey that yoose can handle,
    white girl.

    That would be zero. I'll take ground pork instead.

    You'd be happy here!

    W got an 8lb pork butt for 99cents a lb last week. We cut off 2 12oz
    pork steaks and vacumn sealed them 1 to a bag, then a 12oz bag of pork
    stew meat (sealed same). We ground the rest and started a bean pot
    with the meaty bone.

    I have about 5.5lbs of ground pork in 8oz separate vacumn bags. When
    we use it, we need either 1/2lb or 1lb ground so it's easiest to go
    1/2 lb and just grab 2 if needed.

    I left in the fridge, 2 bags to make lumpia and Don used 1 for making
    fresh sausage meatballs for dinner last night.

    Made Lumpia today. It's easy to do, not anything like the filipino's
    would have you think. The store markup is userous. Actually making 25
    of them takes about 30 minutes if you don't have a buddy to help. I
    snagged Don and we were done in 15 minutes. I defrosted another bag of
    pork to do it with so had 1.5lbs.

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    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: xxcarol's Lumpia
    Categories: Xxcarol, Pork
    Yield: 25 Servings

    1 1/2 lb Ground pork, thick grind
    1/4 c Green onion, minced
    6 ea Garlic cloves, minced fine
    3/4 c Grated carrot
    2 tb Soy sauce, datu puti
    1 ts Garlic powder
    3 ts Black pepper
    3 ea Minced shiitake (1/4 c)
    1 ea Egg, cold
    25 ea Lumpia wrappers

    Ok, made for a party the only thing missing here is optional to add
    some of the hot-sweet dipping sauce to the mix.

    MMMMM

    Long ago typed up from a memory of being taught how by a lady Officer
    from the Phillipene Navy who shared my 2 bed berthing with me. Unusual circomstanes but she couldn't come due to lack of Officer berthing
    unless she shared mine. We hit it off really well!

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to cshenk on Sat Feb 10 22:52:56 2024
    On 2024-02-10, cshenk <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:

    Title: xxcarol's Lumpia
    Categories: Xxcarol, Pork
    Yield: 25 Servings

    1 1/2 lb Ground pork, thick grind
    1/4 c Green onion, minced
    6 ea Garlic cloves, minced fine
    3/4 c Grated carrot
    2 tb Soy sauce, datu puti
    1 ts Garlic powder
    3 ts Black pepper
    3 ea Minced shiitake (1/4 c)
    1 ea Egg, cold
    25 ea Lumpia wrappers


    Title: Leo's Lumpia
    Categories: Odd
    Yield: I can't remember

    1 lb Hamburger
    1 large yellow onion
    ? salt to taste
    1 package of Lumpia wrappers

    Some of the gals at my work in the Seventies were Filipino. I stole
    their wrapper culture and made my own stuffing.
    Peeling the shells off of each other was the tough part after buying
    them from an Oriental market.
    Make hamburger and onions, and wrap them in the shells. Then fry 'em up.
    Easy peasy "fusion" cooking. ;)
    But I'd prefer your rendition if bought in a restaurant.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Sat Feb 10 18:56:05 2024
    Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2024-02-10, cshenk <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:

    Title: xxcarol's Lumpia
    Categories: Xxcarol, Pork
    Yield: 25 Servings

    1 1/2 lb Ground pork, thick grind
    1/4 c Green onion, minced
    6 ea Garlic cloves, minced fine
    3/4 c Grated carrot
    2 tb Soy sauce, datu puti
    1 ts Garlic powder
    3 ts Black pepper
    3 ea Minced shiitake (1/4 c)
    1 ea Egg, cold
    25 ea Lumpia wrappers


    Title: Leo's Lumpia
    Categories: Odd
    Yield: I can't remember

    1 lb Hamburger
    1 large yellow onion
    ? salt to taste
    1 package of Lumpia wrappers

    Some of the gals at my work in the Seventies were Filipino.

    And lots of those filipinos served as sex whores on navy ships
    (male and female). cshenk knows this well. Just something for
    horny sailors to fuck on long voyages.

    There's not much difference between a female and a tiny
    effeminate male. Popeye humped lots of them, and was even angry
    about officers getting more Filipino sex.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 10 20:02:39 2024
    dsi1 wrote:
    On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 12:53:03 PM UTC-10, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2024-02-10, cshenk <csh...@virginia-beach.net> wrote:

    Title: xxcarol's Lumpia
    Categories: Xxcarol, Pork
    Yield: 25 Servings

    1 1/2 lb Ground pork, thick grind
    1/4 c Green onion, minced
    6 ea Garlic cloves, minced fine
    3/4 c Grated carrot
    2 tb Soy sauce, datu puti
    1 ts Garlic powder
    3 ts Black pepper
    3 ea Minced shiitake (1/4 c)
    1 ea Egg, cold
    25 ea Lumpia wrappers
    Title: Leo's Lumpia
    Categories: Odd
    Yield: I can't remember

    1 lb Hamburger
    1 large yellow onion
    ? salt to taste
    1 package of Lumpia wrappers

    Some of the gals at my work in the Seventies were Filipino. I stole
    their wrapper culture and made my own stuffing.
    Peeling the shells off of each other was the tough part after buying
    them from an Oriental market.
    Make hamburger and onions, and wrap them in the shells. Then fry 'em up.
    Easy peasy "fusion" cooking. ;)
    But I'd prefer your rendition if bought in a restaurant.

    You might like banana lumpia. You just wrap a banana that's been sliced in half and wrap and fry. That's it. You can roll the banana in brown or white or cinnamon sugar before wrapping. It's a popular treat at parties. If you serve a couple with a
    scoop of ice cream, you'll be a hero. That would be inevitable.

    Gong Hee Fat Choy!!!


    Sounds like some wonderful asian shit, Tojo.

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Sun Feb 11 21:30:29 2024
    Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

    On 2024-02-10, cshenk <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:

    Title: xxcarol's Lumpia
    Categories: Xxcarol, Pork
    Yield: 25 Servings

    1 1/2 lb Ground pork, thick grind
    1/4 c Green onion, minced
    6 ea Garlic cloves, minced fine
    3/4 c Grated carrot
    2 tb Soy sauce, datu puti
    1 ts Garlic powder
    3 ts Black pepper
    3 ea Minced shiitake (1/4 c)
    1 ea Egg, cold
    25 ea Lumpia wrappers


    Title: Leo's Lumpia
    Categories: Odd
    Yield: I can't remember

    1 lb Hamburger
    1 large yellow onion
    ? salt to taste
    1 package of Lumpia wrappers

    Some of the gals at my work in the Seventies were Filipino. I stole
    their wrapper culture and made my own stuffing.
    Peeling the shells off of each other was the tough part after buying
    them from an Oriental market.
    Make hamburger and onions, and wrap them in the shells. Then fry 'em
    up. Easy peasy "fusion" cooking. ;)
    But I'd prefer your rendition if bought in a restaurant.

    It's nice and tasty and doesn't take long.

    I get the wrappers with the paper separators but agree, if you have to
    pull them apart due to no separators, it's a bit of a trial! Mine are
    wrapped raw then extras frozen (takes well to freezing). Over time
    I've adapted the recipe to use a full cup of grated carrot, more garlic
    powder (2 tsp) and often add sweet-n-sour sauce to the raw mix.

    Since I use the super thin wrappers, not the thicker 'spring roll' and
    I suspect you do too from peeling the wrappers apart, we are making an
    actual type authentic to Filipeno cooking when it's a fancy type. For
    fast weekday mixes they use spring/eggroll types.

    When cooking, use a high smoke point neutral oil (never corn oil!)
    preheated (such as rapeseed/canola) and fill pan so it comes up about
    1/2 way of the lumpia. cook at higher heat with a splatter screen.
    Properly wrapped with about 2 TB of the mix each (maybe 2.5 TB worth),
    be sure not to crowd the frying pan. You'll be able to see the insides bubbling through the wrapper. Once you see that they are just about
    ready to flip. Check the under side and flip when well browned.

    In your version, obviously leave out the black pepper since Mom can't
    tolerate it (grin). You won't see the bubbling through the wapper if
    you precook the ground beef. Pretty sure of it.

    The effect of the proper wrapper for this type is serious *crunch* that
    can be heard 10ft away (grin).

    I normally cook only the amount we will eat in a day. If you have to refrigerate excess, do *not* cover or the crunch will go away.

    Side note: they have a lot of types of lumpia there. Most use ground
    meat but not all. Some use banana for example. Many use beef, chicken
    or lamb while mine are the pork type. Already noted is some use spring
    roll or eggroll wrapper. Most sold commercially in the USA use the
    thicker wrapper and a machine to mix and wrap. Some even insist that
    is the norm but it's only because they don't know the difference of the paper-thin crunchy wrappers you seem to use and I do. The wrappers I
    use come from the Philippenes. They are hard to find.

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to cshenk on Mon Feb 12 22:35:16 2024
    On 2024-02-11, cshenk <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:

    Side note: they have a lot of types of lumpia there. Most use ground
    meat but not all. Some use banana for example. Many use beef, chicken
    or lamb while mine are the pork type. Already noted is some use spring
    roll or eggroll wrapper. Most sold commercially in the USA use the
    thicker wrapper and a machine to mix and wrap. Some even insist that
    is the norm but it's only because they don't know the difference of the paper-thin crunchy wrappers you seem to use and I do. The wrappers I
    use come from the Philippenes. They are hard to find.


    In all honesty, I haven't made lumpia in thirty years. They've probably upgraded their separators since I last bought some. There weren't any at
    all when I bought them, but I could get them apart with a little careful
    work. :)

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