• Ping Jill - Air fryer learning curve

    From Graham@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 29 10:45:03 2024
    The instruction book came with temperature/cooking times for different
    foods, including frozen ones. I have found that in most cases, the times
    are a bit on the generous side. I have found that pork chops take 10
    minutes (5 per side) rather than the 14-17 minutes in the leaflet.
    Even so, the internal temperature is usually above the recommended
    one in the thermometer leaflet.
    A generous serving of fries takes about 7-8 minutes rather than 20.
    Last night I cooked a lamb leg "steak" that probably took 18 minutes,
    it was quite thick, but ended up medium-well done. I use an instant-
    read thermometer to check internal temperatures and I deliberately
    cooked the lamb beyond the rare internal temperature as I think it was
    reduced for quick sale when I bought and froze it last fall.

    So be prepared to experiment a bit.

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  • From lucretia@florence.it@21:1/5 to Graham on Mon Jan 29 17:35:39 2024
    On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 10:45:03 -0700, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    The instruction book came with temperature/cooking times for different
    foods, including frozen ones. I have found that in most cases, the times
    are a bit on the generous side. I have found that pork chops take 10
    minutes (5 per side) rather than the 14-17 minutes in the leaflet.
    Even so, the internal temperature is usually above the recommended
    one in the thermometer leaflet.
    A generous serving of fries takes about 7-8 minutes rather than 20.
    Last night I cooked a lamb leg "steak" that probably took 18 minutes,
    it was quite thick, but ended up medium-well done. I use an instant-
    read thermometer to check internal temperatures and I deliberately
    cooked the lamb beyond the rare internal temperature as I think it was >reduced for quick sale when I bought and froze it last fall.

    So be prepared to experiment a bit.

    That's the key. I find it does such a quick job cooking and can
    easily overcook for my taste. So starting out I would check often
    that way I avoided overcooking.

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Graham on Mon Jan 29 19:10:22 2024
    On 1/29/2024 12:45 PM, Graham wrote:
    The instruction book came with temperature/cooking times for different
    foods, including frozen ones. I have found that in most cases, the times
    are a bit on the generous side. I have found that pork chops take 10
    minutes (5 per side) rather than the 14-17 minutes in the leaflet.
    Even so, the internal temperature is usually above the recommended
    one in the thermometer leaflet.
    A generous serving of fries takes about 7-8 minutes rather than 20.
    Last night I cooked a lamb leg "steak" that probably took 18 minutes,
    it was quite thick, but ended up medium-well done. I use an instant-
    read thermometer to check internal temperatures and I deliberately
    cooked the lamb beyond the rare internal temperature as I think it was reduced for quick sale when I bought and froze it last fall.

    So be prepared to experiment a bit.

    Thanks, Graham! I've read a number of posts here about using an air
    fryer and nearly all say the recommended cooking time in the booklets is
    longer than usually needed. I do have an instant read thermometer.

    Jill

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net on Mon Jan 29 19:17:55 2024
    On 1/29/2024 3:20 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
    On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 11:45:09 AM UTC-6, Graham wrote:

    The instruction book came with temperature/cooking times for different
    foods, including frozen ones. I have found that in most cases, the times
    are a bit on the generous side.

    Same here.

    I have found that pork chops take 10
    minutes (5 per side) rather than the 14-17 minutes in the leaflet.

    The only ones I found that take that long to cook until they've just barely turned white in the center are those super thick chops.

    I'll have to see if I can use it to cook baked thick cut stuffed pork
    chops in this thing but that's a ways down the road.

    A generous serving of fries takes about 7-8 minutes rather than 20.

    UGH! I found that out the hard way first time I did fries. I didn't check on
    them trusting the recipe book and recommendations were correct. My
    fries looked a lot worse that dsi1's Brussel sprouts.

    LOL

    So be prepared to experiment a bit.

    First couple of times until she masters it will make her wonder why she wasted her money on such a contraption. Hahahaaaa

    I'm still wondering why and I haven't used it yet. :)

    Jill

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  • From bob@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Tue Jan 30 08:35:39 2024
    On 2024-01-30 00:17:55 +0000, jmcquown said:

    On 1/29/2024 3:20 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
    On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 11:45:09 AM UTC-6, Graham wrote:

    The instruction book came with temperature/cooking times for different
    foods, including frozen ones. I have found that in most cases, the times >>> are a bit on the generous side.

    Same here.

    I have found that pork chops take 10
    minutes (5 per side) rather than the 14-17 minutes in the leaflet.

    The only ones I found that take that long to cook until they've just barely >> turned white in the center are those super thick chops.

    I'll have to see if I can use it to cook baked thick cut stuffed pork
    chops in this thing but that's a ways down the road.

    A generous serving of fries takes about 7-8 minutes rather than 20.

    UGH! I found that out the hard way first time I did fries. I didn't check on
    them trusting the recipe book and recommendations were correct. My
    fries looked a lot worse that dsi1's Brussel sprouts.

    LOL

    So be prepared to experiment a bit.

    First couple of times until she masters it will make her wonder why she
    wasted her money on such a contraption. Hahahaaaa

    I'm still wondering why and I haven't used it yet. :)

    Jill

    When you do try it, I'm interested to know if it really produces a
    product that is even close to as good as oil fried. Seems like it
    will be similar to a shake and bake kinda oven thing.

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  • From bob@21:1/5 to itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net on Tue Jan 30 09:18:09 2024
    On 2024-01-30 15:49:53 +0000, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net said:

    On Tuesday, January 30, 2024 at 9:35:45 AM UTC-6, bob wrote:

    When you do try it, I'm interested to know if it really produces a>
    product that is even close to as good as oil fried. Seems like it> will
    be similar to a shake and bake kinda oven thing.

    Air fryer using oil to spritz the food produces quite similar tasty
    results. The benefit is you're not dealing with a trying to save a
    quart or more or even a cup of oil after cooking or disposing of it. No
    oil spatters all over the stove and surrounding areas either.

    I've done dredged in flour wings as well as naked wings with just
    seasoning on them and both have turned out great. My next way
    to cook them is the baking powder method. That's supposed to
    turn out super, super crispy wings.

    That make sense. Thank you! I mostly fry oysters, shrimp and fish and
    do the fry outdoors. It takes good technique to get those really right
    even in hot deep oil. Never tried a baking powder dredge though. Will
    check into it.

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Tue Jan 30 22:31:26 2024
    jmcquown wrote:

    On 1/29/2024 12:45 PM, Graham wrote:
    The instruction book came with temperature/cooking times for
    different foods, including frozen ones. I have found that in most
    cases, the times are a bit on the generous side. I have found that
    pork chops take 10 minutes (5 per side) rather than the 14-17
    minutes in the leaflet. Even so, the internal temperature is
    usually above the recommended one in the thermometer leaflet. A
    generous serving of fries takes about 7-8 minutes rather than 20.
    Last night I cooked a lamb leg "steak" that probably took 18
    minutes, it was quite thick, but ended up medium-well done. I use
    an instant- read thermometer to check internal temperatures and I deliberately cooked the lamb beyond the rare internal temperature
    as I think it was reduced for quick sale when I bought and froze it
    last fall.

    So be prepared to experiment a bit.

    Thanks, Graham! I've read a number of posts here about using an air
    fryer and nearly all say the recommended cooking time in the booklets
    is longer than usually needed. I do have an instant read thermometer.

    Jill

    I gave up on the booklet times. They don't match how we load ours.

    Most recent was leftover cold popcorn. Worked great at 3 mins, 350F.

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to bob on Tue Jan 30 18:39:06 2024
    On 1/30/2024 10:35 AM, bob wrote:
    On 2024-01-30 00:17:55 +0000, jmcquown said:

    On 1/29/2024 3:20 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
    On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 11:45:09 AM UTC-6, Graham wrote:

    The instruction book came with temperature/cooking times for different >>>> foods, including frozen ones. I have found that in most cases, the
    times
    are a bit on the generous side.

    Same here.

    I have found that pork chops take 10
    minutes (5 per side) rather than the 14-17 minutes in the leaflet.

    The only ones I found that take that long to cook until they've just
    barely
    turned white in the center are those super thick chops.

    I'll have to see if I can use it to cook baked thick cut stuffed pork
    chops in this thing but that's a ways down the road.

    A generous serving of fries takes about 7-8 minutes rather than 20.

    UGH!  I found that out the hard way first time I did fries.  I didn't
    check on
    them trusting the recipe book and recommendations were correct.  My
    fries looked a lot worse that dsi1's Brussel sprouts.

    LOL

    So be prepared to experiment a bit.

    First couple of times until she masters it will make her wonder why she
    wasted her money on such a contraption.  Hahahaaaa

    I'm still wondering why and I haven't used it yet. :)

    Jill

    When you do try it,  I'm interested to know if it really produces a
    product that is even close to as good as oil fried.   Seems like it will
    be similar to a shake and bake kinda oven thing.

    For now I've set it on the floor in the laundry room next to the crock
    pot. (I do use the crock pot, but only every few months.) This may be
    one of those things I use sporadically. I have a food processor like
    that. I use it a couple of times a year to uniformly slice yellow
    crookneck squash for preparing squash casserole. Otherwise, it just
    sits there. What can I say, the price was right. It was an impulse buy.

    Jill

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to bob on Sat Feb 3 07:59:18 2024
    On 1/30/2024 11:18 AM, bob wrote:
    On 2024-01-30 15:49:53 +0000, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net said:

    I've done dredged in flour wings as well as naked wings with just
    seasoning on them and both have turned out great. My next way
    to cook them is the baking powder method. That's supposed to
    turn out super, super crispy wings.

    That make sense. Thank you! I mostly fry oysters, shrimp and fish and do
    the fry outdoors. It takes good technique to get those really right even
    in hot deep oil. Never tried a baking powder dredge though. Will check
    into it.

    Baking powder dredge... Isn't that how Chinese chicken is cooked to
    stay crispy under the General Tso sauce?

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Michael Trew on Sat Feb 3 14:35:09 2024
    On 2024-02-03, Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
    On 1/30/2024 11:18 AM, bob wrote:
    On 2024-01-30 15:49:53 +0000, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net said:

    I've done dredged in flour wings as well as naked wings with just
    seasoning on them and both have turned out great. My next way
    to cook them is the baking powder method. That's supposed to
    turn out super, super crispy wings.

    That make sense. Thank you! I mostly fry oysters, shrimp and fish and do
    the fry outdoors. It takes good technique to get those really right even
    in hot deep oil. Never tried a baking powder dredge though. Will check
    into it.

    Baking powder dredge... Isn't that how Chinese chicken is cooked to
    stay crispy under the General Tso sauce?

    Baking powder in the dredge, not the entirety of the dredge (which
    would taste awful). Use of non-wheat starches contributes to
    crispness: cornstarch or rice flour.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net on Sun Feb 4 09:22:44 2024
    On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 13:27:12 -0800 (PST), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:

    On Saturday, February 3, 2024 at 8:35:16 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2024-02-03, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:

    Baking powder dredge... Isn't that how Chinese chicken is cooked to
    stay crispy under the General Tso sauce?

    Baking powder in the dredge, not the entirety of the dredge (which
    would taste awful). Use of non-wheat starches contributes to
    crispness: cornstarch or rice flour.

    Cindy Hamilton

    Yep, yep!

    Joan's triggered by the word 'corn'.

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