• No Soup for You! (in prisons and jails). NEXT!

    From Sqwertz@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Tue Jan 23 18:04:36 2024
    On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 15:12:25 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

    On 1/19/2024 3:01 AM, Sqwertz wrote:

    Lentil soup isn't a dinner, even with the nasty cornbread (prison
    food).

    A bowl of lentil soup (and many other types of soup) make a nice filling >>> evening meal and that's all I require to call it dinner. Do tell us
    about your experience with lentil soup (or is it just the cornbread?) as >>> "prison food".

    Its just the cornbread. They don't serve soup in prisons (or
    jails - unless you're on a doctor-ordered liquid diet).

    I believe you about them not baking cornbread. They don't serve soup in jails? Really? Hmmm, explain to me the cup of vegetable beef soup
    (likely heated up from industrial sized cans) someone I know was given
    to eat after they spent the night in the drunk tank back in the 1990's.
    They were given a cup of soup and a bologna sandwich on white bread. I
    know this because I went to pick the person up after they were released ROR.

    Np, they DO bake cornbread. And no, they don't serve soup. I've
    been in jails and prisons from coast to coast and have never seen
    soup except for broth on a doctor-ordered diet. Of course there
    will be exceptions.

    But the bologna is universal. Wrapped in plastic wrap with 4
    slices of squishy bread (often wheat) and a slice of imitation
    cheese and 1 measly packet of mustard (never mayo, gotta buy that
    at the commissaries). Drunk tank meal kits usually also include
    a red apple (never yellow) or a grungy orange.

    I've looked all over and tried to find more info about that
    bologna and even obtain some. It's grey, full of bone chips and
    air pickets, mealy, watery (previously frozen)... pure food of the
    Gods when you're in the drunk tank. And it's pretty much AYCE as
    nobody else wants theirs. I'll always give up my apple for a
    stack of that grey bologna and imitation cheese w/mustard packet.

    Back to soup though... Jail and prisons are required to give you a
    certain amount of protein, carbs, calories, and vitamins each day.
    And soup has way too much overhead with near zero return on those
    requirements.

    The Federal Bureau of Prisons and Jails do have rules that 2 meals
    a day must be "hot" for genpops (general jail/prison populations
    and absent a lockdown situation), but that would never apply to
    drunk tanks these days with the mass outsourcing of guards and
    foodservice to the mega-corporations who count every penny of a
    meal (like Aramark, yes they're not just a restaurant and hospital
    laundry service anymore).

    Soup may have satisfied some Podunk county regulation of a "hot
    meal" requirement in drunk tanks back in the 90's but that would
    rarely, if ever, be the case nowadays.

    So I don't stand alone in my opinion that "soup is not a meal".
    And I speak from experience ;-) And while bean-ish soup may have
    a fair amount of protein, it would never be served in prisons.
    Farts cause fights.

    -sw

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Sqwertz on Tue Jan 23 18:44:27 2024
    Sqwertz wrote:
    On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 15:12:25 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

    On 1/19/2024 3:01 AM, Sqwertz wrote:

    Lentil soup isn't a dinner, even with the nasty cornbread (prison
    food).

    A bowl of lentil soup (and many other types of soup) make a nice filling >>>> evening meal and that's all I require to call it dinner. Do tell us
    about your experience with lentil soup (or is it just the cornbread?) as >>>> "prison food".

    Its just the cornbread. They don't serve soup in prisons (or
    jails - unless you're on a doctor-ordered liquid diet).

    I believe you about them not baking cornbread. They don't serve soup in
    jails? Really? Hmmm, explain to me the cup of vegetable beef soup
    (likely heated up from industrial sized cans) someone I know was given
    to eat after they spent the night in the drunk tank back in the 1990's.
    They were given a cup of soup and a bologna sandwich on white bread. I
    know this because I went to pick the person up after they were released ROR.

    Np, they DO bake cornbread. And no, they don't serve soup. I've
    been in jails and prisons from coast to coast and have never seen
    soup except for broth on a doctor-ordered diet. Of course there
    will be exceptions.

    But the bologna is universal. Wrapped in plastic wrap with 4
    slices of squishy bread (often wheat) and a slice of imitation
    cheese and 1 measly packet of mustard (never mayo, gotta buy that
    at the commissaries). Drunk tank meal kits usually also include
    a red apple (never yellow) or a grungy orange.

    I've looked all over and tried to find more info about that
    bologna and even obtain some. It's grey, full of bone chips and
    air pickets, mealy, watery (previously frozen)... pure food of the
    Gods when you're in the drunk tank. And it's pretty much AYCE as
    nobody else wants theirs. I'll always give up my apple for a
    stack of that grey bologna and imitation cheese w/mustard packet.

    Back to soup though... Jail and prisons are required to give you a
    certain amount of protein, carbs, calories, and vitamins each day.
    And soup has way too much overhead with near zero return on those requirements.

    The Federal Bureau of Prisons and Jails do have rules that 2 meals
    a day must be "hot" for genpops (general jail/prison populations
    and absent a lockdown situation), but that would never apply to
    drunk tanks these days with the mass outsourcing of guards and
    foodservice to the mega-corporations who count every penny of a
    meal (like Aramark, yes they're not just a restaurant and hospital
    laundry service anymore).

    Soup may have satisfied some Podunk county regulation of a "hot
    meal" requirement in drunk tanks back in the 90's but that would
    rarely, if ever, be the case nowadays.

    So I don't stand alone in my opinion that "soup is not a meal".
    And I speak from experience ;-) And while bean-ish soup may have
    a fair amount of protein, it would never be served in prisons.
    Farts cause fights.

    -sw


    The Duncan Hines of prison cuisine.

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