it is edible, but not my favorite form of beef.
this time Mom just winged it and put in a little too
much soy sauce along with, minced onion, breadcrumbs,
a little milk. tomorrow it will be gone and i can say
i won't miss it by much. glad i can doctor it up with
hot sauce and ketchup.
songbird
On 1/18/2024 8:28 PM, songbird wrote:
it is edible, but not my favorite form of beef.
this time Mom just winged it and put in a little too
much soy sauce along with, minced onion, breadcrumbs,
a little milk. tomorrow it will be gone and i can say
i won't miss it by much. glad i can doctor it up with
hot sauce and ketchup.
songbird
Your mother's version of meat loaf bears no resemblance to anything
called meat loaf I am familiar with. Soy sauce? Nope.
The description is rather vague. Was there no egg added as part of the binder with the
onion & breadcrumbs?
As written I wouldn't want to eat it, nor would I miss it. Hot sauce
and ketchup would certainly not help. So sorry!
On Thursday, January 18, 2024 at 7:28:59 PM UTC-6, songbird wrote:
My sentiments exactly no matter who makes it.
it is edible, but not my favorite form of beef.
songbird
On 2024-01-18 9:37 p.m., itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
On Thursday, January 18, 2024 at 7:28:59 PM UTC-6, songbird wrote:
My sentiments exactly no matter who makes it.
it is edible, but not my favorite form of beef.
songbird
I agree that a meat loaf is often pretty bad. I still have faith in it because I have had some really good ones. Eating at a lot of diners
while working on the road for close to 30 years, I learned to order
meatloaf if it was on the menu. It can be incredible.
On 2024-01-18 9:37 p.m., itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
On Thursday, January 18, 2024 at 7:28:59 PM UTC-6, songbird wrote:
My sentiments exactly no matter who makes it.
it is edible, but not my favorite form of beef.
songbird
I agree that a meat loaf is often pretty bad. I still have faith in it because I have had some really good ones. Eating at a lot of diners
while working on the road for close to 30 years, I learned to order
meatloaf if it was on the menu. It can be incredible.
jmcquown wrote:
...
Your mother's version of meat loaf bears no resemblance to anything
called meat loaf I am familiar with. Soy sauce? Nope. The description
is rather vague. Was there no egg added as part of the binder with the
onion & breadcrumbs?
oh, yes, an eqq white.
As written I wouldn't want to eat it, nor would I miss it. Hot sauce
and ketchup would certainly not help. So sorry!
works fine for me. i'm really not that picky. i've
had a lot of different versions of meatloaf and eaten
them all.
On 1/18/2024 10:10 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2024-01-18 9:37 p.m., itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
I agree that a meat loaf is often pretty bad. I still have faith in it
because I have had some really good ones. Eating at a lot of diners
while working on the road for close to 30 years, I learned to order
meatloaf if it was on the menu. It can be incredible.
Done right, it is very good. I've been eating it all my life.
My preference is no more than 80% lean. Don't overwork the mix with breadcrumbs, egg, ketchup, sour cream. I often add dried onion, toasted.
Your mother's version of meat loaf bears no resemblance to anything
called meat loaf I am familiar with. Soy sauce? Nope. The description
is rather vague. Was there no egg added as part of the binder with the
onion & breadcrumbs?
As written I wouldn't want to eat it, nor would I miss it. Hot sauce
and ketchup would certainly not help. So sorry!
On 1/18/2024 8:28 PM, songbird wrote:
it is edible, but not my favorite form of beef.
this time Mom just winged it and put in a little too
much soy sauce along with, minced onion, breadcrumbs,
a little milk. tomorrow it will be gone and i can say
i won't miss it by much. glad i can doctor it up with
hot sauce and ketchup.
songbird
Your mother's version of meat loaf bears no resemblance to anything
called meat loaf I am familiar with. Soy sauce? Nope.
On 1/18/2024 8:28 PM, songbird wrote:
it is edible, but not my favorite form of beef.
this time Mom just winged it and put in a little too
much soy sauce along with, minced onion, breadcrumbs,
a little milk. tomorrow it will be gone and i can say
i won't miss it by much. glad i can doctor it up with
hot sauce and ketchup.
songbird
Your mother's version of meat loaf bears no resemblance to anything
called meat loaf I am familiar with. Soy sauce? Nope. The
description is rather vague. Was there no egg added as part of the
binder with the onion & breadcrumbs?
As written I wouldn't want to eat it, nor would I miss it. Hot sauce
and ketchup would certainly not help. So sorry!
Jill
On 2024-01-19, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
On 1/18/2024 8:28 PM, songbird wrote:
it is edible, but not my favorite form of beef.
this time Mom just winged it and put in a little too
much soy sauce along with, minced onion, breadcrumbs,
a little milk. tomorrow it will be gone and i can say
i won't miss it by much. glad i can doctor it up with
hot sauce and ketchup.
songbird
Your mother's version of meat loaf bears no resemblance to anything
called meat loaf I am familiar with. Soy sauce? Nope.
A little bit of soy sauce (or Worcestershire sauce or fermented fish
sauce) bumps up the umami, especially if tomatoes are also present.
I have a nice wet rub for beef that uses fish sauce and tomato paste.
I've tried subbing Worcestershire sauce for the fish sauce, but that
makes it taste like A-1 sauce.
On 2024-01-19 01:47:51 +0000, jmcquown said:
On 1/18/2024 8:28 PM, songbird wrote:
it is edible, but not my favorite form of beef.
this time Mom just winged it and put in a little too
much soy sauce along with, minced onion, breadcrumbs,
a little milk. tomorrow it will be gone and i can say
i won't miss it by much. glad i can doctor it up with
hot sauce and ketchup.
songbird
Your mother's version of meat loaf bears no resemblance to anything
called meat loaf I am familiar with. Soy sauce? Nope. The
description is rather vague. Was there no egg added as part of the
binder with the onion & breadcrumbs?
As written I wouldn't want to eat it, nor would I miss it. Hot sauce
and ketchup would certainly not help. So sorry!
Jill
Songbirds mother winged it. Maybe they should just stick to singing.
 I don't keep fish sauce on hand
Jill
On 1/19/2024 9:22 AM, bob wrote:
On 2024-01-19 01:47:51 +0000, jmcquown said:
On 1/18/2024 8:28 PM, songbird wrote:
it is edible, but not my favorite form of beef.
this time Mom just winged it and put in a little too
much soy sauce along with, minced onion, breadcrumbs,
a little milk. tomorrow it will be gone and i can say
i won't miss it by much. glad i can doctor it up with
hot sauce and ketchup.
songbird
Your mother's version of meat loaf bears no resemblance to anything
called meat loaf I am familiar with. Soy sauce? Nope. The
description is rather vague. Was there no egg added as part of the
binder with the onion & breadcrumbs?
As written I wouldn't want to eat it, nor would I miss it. Hot sauce
and ketchup would certainly not help. So sorry!
Jill
Songbirds mother winged it. Maybe they should just stick to singing.
I wasn't trying to be disparaging but it was an odd description. I
still can't imagine soy sauce in meatloaf. songbird did have to "doctor
it up" to eat it.
Bruce wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 23:16:21 -0500, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>...
wrote:
works fine for me. i'm really not that picky. i've
had a lot of different versions of meatloaf and eaten
them all.
What else can you do with it? Fill a hole in your shoe?
some people are so picky that they will not eat strange
versions of meatloaf. i imagine they might throw it out
or feed the family pet or put it in the compost pile after
grandma leaves.
On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 23:16:21 -0500, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>...
wrote:
works fine for me. i'm really not that picky. i've
had a lot of different versions of meatloaf and eaten
them all.
What else can you do with it? Fill a hole in your shoe?
On Thursday, January 18, 2024 at 3:28:59 PM UTC-10, songbird wrote:
it is edible, but not my favorite form of beef.
this time Mom just winged it and put in a little too
much soy sauce along with, minced onion, breadcrumbs,
a little milk. tomorrow it will be gone and i can say
i won't miss it by much. glad i can doctor it up with
hot sauce and ketchup.
songbird
My secret ingredients for meatloaf would be oyster sauce, beef soup powder, and dehydrated onions. There's other stuff too but we don't talk about that.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/owy3evTey5Hqwnt57
On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 19:34:05 -0500, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>
wrote:
Bruce wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 23:16:21 -0500, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>...
wrote:
works fine for me. i'm really not that picky. i've
had a lot of different versions of meatloaf and eaten
them all.
What else can you do with it? Fill a hole in your shoe?
some people are so picky that they will not eat strange
versions of meatloaf. i imagine they might throw it out
or feed the family pet or put it in the compost pile after
grandma leaves.
Yes, I guess. I'd always eat it too.
in my life i've made very few things i could not eat.
liver soup was one of them, i've written about that one
here in the past. i kept trying to fix it in various
ways and all it did was make even more of something i
did not want to eat. so i stopped and got rid of it
and since then have never made liver soup again.
i consider it one of my pet peeves and sins if i waste
food so i try very hard to not do that and am almost
always successful.
but to get back to meatloaf. i've also made some non-
meat versions which were ok to me, but i'm sure others
would find them inedible. about 1/3 TVP, 1/3 pasta and
1/3 oatmeal mixed with various spices and tomato paste
(to give it some reasonable color, but also for the
flavor and umami it adds (fry it first and burn some of
it if you must)). mushrooms and onions are always good.
etc.
On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 20:36:07 -0500, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>
wrote:
in my life i've made very few things i could not eat.
liver soup was one of them, i've written about that one
here in the past. i kept trying to fix it in various
ways and all it did was make even more of something i
did not want to eat. so i stopped and got rid of it
and since then have never made liver soup again.
I don't know if I'd eat it. Liver used to be one of my favourite
meats, so probably.
i consider it one of my pet peeves and sins if i waste
food so i try very hard to not do that and am almost
always successful.
but to get back to meatloaf. i've also made some non-
meat versions which were ok to me, but i'm sure others
would find them inedible. about 1/3 TVP, 1/3 pasta and
1/3 oatmeal mixed with various spices and tomato paste
(to give it some reasonable color, but also for the
flavor and umami it adds (fry it first and burn some of
it if you must)). mushrooms and onions are always good.
etc.
Fake meat can be pretty good these days. We just had a fake meat
schnitzel each. It was just as good as good meat schnitzels that I
remember. I haven't looked at the ingredients yet...
Bruce wrote:
Fake meat can be pretty good these days. We just had a fake meat
schnitzel each. It was just as good as good meat schnitzels that I
remember. I haven't looked at the ingredients yet...
is that a first for you? :)
i will try many things but since we're so used to not
having much added salt it often ends up being too salty.
the other day Mom made a box of the mac-n-cheese and i
forgot how salty that is as it was and made the mistake
of putting some garlic salt on it. yes, i did eat it
but it was too much salt for sure.
jmcquown wrote:
On 1/19/2024 9:22 AM, bob wrote:
On 2024-01-19 01:47:51 +0000, jmcquown said:
On 1/18/2024 8:28 PM, songbird wrote:
it is edible, but not my favorite form of beef.
this time Mom just winged it and put in a little too
much soy sauce along with, minced onion, breadcrumbs,
a little milk. tomorrow it will be gone and i can say
i won't miss it by much. glad i can doctor it up with
hot sauce and ketchup.
songbird
Your mother's version of meat loaf bears no resemblance to anything
called meat loaf I am familiar with. Soy sauce? Nope. The
description is rather vague. Was there no egg added as part of the
binder with the onion & breadcrumbs?
As written I wouldn't want to eat it, nor would I miss it. Hot sauce
and ketchup would certainly not help. So sorry!
Jill
Songbirds mother winged it. Maybe they should just stick to singing.
bob's got a bee in his bonnet...
I wasn't trying to be disparaging but it was an odd description. I
still can't imagine soy sauce in meatloaf. songbird did have to "doctor
it up" to eat it.
i've eaten it for four days - sometimes twice a day, i've
ate it without any changes, i've had it with mushroom gravy,
i've had it with hot sauce and ketchup, i've had it just with
ketchup, i've had it with melted cheese, i've had it with
mayo (not MW). this morning i went back to hot sauce and
ketchup and the cut up potato.
songbird
jmcquown wrote:
On 1/19/2024 9:22 AM, bob wrote:
On 2024-01-19 01:47:51 +0000, jmcquown said:
On 1/18/2024 8:28 PM, songbird wrote:
it is edible, but not my favorite form of beef.
this time Mom just winged it and put in a little too
much soy sauce along with, minced onion, breadcrumbs,
a little milk. tomorrow it will be gone and i can say
i won't miss it by much. glad i can doctor it up with
hot sauce and ketchup.
songbird
Your mother's version of meat loaf bears no resemblance to anything
called meat loaf I am familiar with. Soy sauce? Nope. The
description is rather vague. Was there no egg added as part of the
binder with the onion & breadcrumbs?
As written I wouldn't want to eat it, nor would I miss it. Hot sauce
and ketchup would certainly not help. So sorry!
Jill
Songbirds mother winged it. Maybe they should just stick to singing.
bob's got a bee in his bonnet...
I wasn't trying to be disparaging but it was an odd description. I
still can't imagine soy sauce in meatloaf. songbird did have to "doctor
it up" to eat it.
i've eaten it for four days - sometimes twice a day, i've
ate it without any changes, i've had it with mushroom gravy,
i've had it with hot sauce and ketchup, i've had it just with
ketchup, i've had it with melted cheese, i've had it with
mayo (not MW). this morning i went back to hot sauce and
ketchup and the cut up potato.
songbird
On 2024-01-20 00:37:18 +0000, songbird said:
jmcquown wrote:
On 1/19/2024 9:22 AM, bob wrote:
On 2024-01-19 01:47:51 +0000, jmcquown said:
On 1/18/2024 8:28 PM, songbird wrote:
it is edible, but not my favorite form of beef.
this time Mom just winged it and put in a little too
much soy sauce along with, minced onion, breadcrumbs,
a little milk. tomorrow it will be gone and i can say
i won't miss it by much. glad i can doctor it up with
hot sauce and ketchup.
songbird
Your mother's version of meat loaf bears no resemblance to
anything called meat loaf I am familiar with. Soy sauce?
Nope. The description is rather vague. Was there no egg
added as part of the binder with the onion & breadcrumbs?
As written I wouldn't want to eat it, nor would I miss it.
Hot sauce and ketchup would certainly not help. So sorry!
Jill
Songbirds mother winged it. Maybe they should just stick to
singing.
bob's got a bee in his bonnet...
I wasn't trying to be disparaging but it was an odd description.
I still can't imagine soy sauce in meatloaf. songbird did have
to "doctor it up" to eat it.
i've eaten it for four days - sometimes twice a day, i've
ate it without any changes, i've had it with mushroom gravy,
i've had it with hot sauce and ketchup, i've had it just with
ketchup, i've had it with melted cheese, i've had it with
mayo (not MW). this morning i went back to hot sauce and
ketchup and the cut up potato.
songbird
Retch!
Have you tried the english version.. I've eaten it?
bob wrote:
...
Have you tried the english version.. I've eaten it?
haggis? no, i've never had that.
i don't know of anything else particularly English
that might be meatloafish.
On 2024-01-22 8:25 p.m., songbird wrote:
bob wrote:
...
Have you tried the english version.. I've eaten it?
haggis? no, i've never had that.
i don't know of anything else particularly English
that might be meatloafish.
Why on Earth would you think that there is no English meatloaf?
bob wrote:
...
Have you tried the english version.. I've eaten it?
haggis? no, i've never had that.
i don't know of anything else particularly English
that might be meatloafish.
songbird
On 2024-01-22 6:25 p.m., songbird wrote:
bob wrote:
...
Have you tried the english version.. I've eaten it?
haggis? no, i've never had that.
i don't know of anything else particularly English
that might be meatloafish.
songbird
Haslet - pronounced "hacelet", at least it is in Lincolnshire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haslet
Whenever I visited my paternal grandparents, my grandmother always
bought some for me. I thought it delicious.
bob wrote:
...
Have you tried the english version.. I've eaten it?
haggis? no, i've never had that.
bob wrote:
...
Have you tried the english version.. I've eaten it?
haggis? no, i've never had that.
i don't know of anything else particularly English
that might be meatloafish.
On 2024-01-22 6:25 p.m., songbird wrote:
bob wrote:
...
Have you tried the english version.. I've eaten it?
haggis? no, i've never had that.
i don't know of anything else particularly English
that might be meatloafish.
Haslet - pronounced "hacelet", at least it is in Lincolnshire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haslet
Whenever I visited my paternal grandparents, my grandmother always
bought some for me. I thought it delicious.
On 2024-01-23, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
bob wrote:
...
Have you tried the english version.. I've eaten it?
haggis? no, i've never had that.
Haggis is, technically, a sausage. Or possibly a pudding, if you're
inclined to use that word for steamed sausages.
On 2024-01-23, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
bob wrote:
...
Have you tried the english version.. I've eaten it?
haggis? no, i've never had that.
Haggis is, technically, a sausage. Or possibly a pudding, if you're
inclined to use that word for steamed sausages.
On 2024-01-22 6:25 p.m., songbird wrote:
bob wrote:
...
Have you tried the english version.. I've eaten it?
haggis? no, i've never had that.
i don't know of anything else particularly English
that might be meatloafish.
songbird
Haslet - pronounced "hacelet", at least it is in Lincolnshire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haslet
Whenever I visited my paternal grandparents, my grandmother always
bought some for me. I thought it delicious.
On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 22:33:45 -0700, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
On 2024-01-22 6:25 p.m., songbird wrote:
bob wrote:
...
Have you tried the english version.. I've eaten it?
haggis? no, i've never had that.
i don't know of anything else particularly English
that might be meatloafish.
songbird
Haslet - pronounced "hacelet", at least it is in Lincolnshire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haslet
Whenever I visited my paternal grandparents, my grandmother always
bought some for me. I thought it delicious.
"There isn't a single, specific dish called "English meatloaf.
However, there are several traditional English meat dishes that are
similar to meatloaf in concept and preparation. Here are two prominent examples: haslet and Scotch eggs.
So, while there isn't a single, iconic "English meatloaf," the concept
of a savory meat dish formed into a loaf and cooked is definitely
present in British cuisine."
And in just about every other cuisine.
Graham wrote:
On 2024-01-22 6:25 p.m., songbird wrote:
bob wrote:
...
Have you tried the english version.. I've eaten it?
haggis? no, i've never had that.
i don't know of anything else particularly English
that might be meatloafish.
Haslet - pronounced "hacelet", at least it is in Lincolnshire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haslet
Whenever I visited my paternal grandparents, my grandmother always
bought some for me. I thought it delicious.
in reading the ingredients i see nothing there which makes
it uniquely English. imo, it's just another version of
meatloaf.
I guess they obviously acquired it from the Americas.
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2024-01-23, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
bob wrote:
...
Have you tried the english version.. I've eaten it?
haggis? no, i've never had that.
Haggis is, technically, a sausage. Or possibly a pudding, if you're
inclined to use that word for steamed sausages.
no, i rarely think of anything savory as a pudding
but that is probably an American thing.
Dave Smith wrote:
...
I guess they obviously acquired it from the Americas.
it's a generic term to me, just like meat and loaf
are also generic terms.
in the American lingo there are things like pemmican
which may have different versions of similar things in
other languages, but you won't find those other languages
calling their stuff pemmican...
On 2024-01-23 11:20 a.m., songbird wrote:
Dave Smith wrote:
...
I guess they obviously acquired it from the Americas.
it's a generic term to me, just like meat and loaf
are also generic terms.
in the American lingo there are things like pemmican
which may have different versions of similar things in
other languages, but you won't find those other languages
calling their stuff pemmican...
It was so good of you to clarify that you were thinking of the American
lingo rather than English.
On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 07:22:38 -0500, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>
wrote:
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2024-01-23, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
bob wrote:
...
Have you tried the english version.. I've eaten it?
haggis? no, i've never had that.
Haggis is, technically, a sausage. Or possibly a pudding, if you're
inclined to use that word for steamed sausages.
no, i rarely think of anything savory as a pudding
but that is probably an American thing.
Same here.
Graham wrote:
On 2024-01-22 6:25 p.m., songbird wrote:
bob wrote:
...
Have you tried the english version.. I've eaten it?
haggis? no, i've never had that.
i don't know of anything else particularly English
that might be meatloafish.
Haslet - pronounced "hacelet", at least it is in Lincolnshire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haslet
Whenever I visited my paternal grandparents, my grandmother always
bought some for me. I thought it delicious.
in reading the ingredients i see nothing there which makes
it uniquely English. imo, it's just another version of
meatloaf.
songbird
Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 07:22:38 -0500, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>
wrote:
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2024-01-23, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
bob wrote:
...
Have you tried the english version.. I've eaten it?
haggis? no, i've never had that.
Haggis is, technically, a sausage. Or possibly a pudding, if you're
inclined to use that word for steamed sausages.
no, i rarely think of anything savory as a pudding
but that is probably an American thing.
Same here.
because it's just forms of stuffing to me at that point.
On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 14:20:12 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2024-01-23 11:20 a.m., songbird wrote:
Dave Smith wrote:
...
I guess they obviously acquired it from the Americas.
it's a generic term to me, just like meat and loaf
are also generic terms.
in the American lingo there are things like pemmican
which may have different versions of similar things in
other languages, but you won't find those other languages
calling their stuff pemmican...
It was so good of you to clarify that you were thinking of the American >>lingo rather than English.
You're annoying again. Work on that.
songbird wrote:...
Graham wrote:
On 2024-01-22 6:25 p.m., songbird wrote:
bob wrote:
...
Have you tried the english version.. I've eaten it?
haggis? no, i've never had that.
i don't know of anything else particularly English
that might be meatloafish.
Haslet - pronounced "hacelet", at least it is in Lincolnshire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haslet
Whenever I visited my paternal grandparents, my grandmother always
bought some for me. I thought it delicious.
in reading the ingredients i see nothing there which makes
it uniquely English. imo, it's just another version of
meatloaf.
I think what they are trying to say is just that it's not called 'meat
loaf' in the UK.
On 2024-01-23 11:20 a.m., songbird wrote:
Dave Smith wrote:
...
I guess they obviously acquired it from the Americas.
it's a generic term to me, just like meat and loaf
are also generic terms.
in the American lingo there are things like pemmican
which may have different versions of similar things in
other languages, but you won't find those other languages
calling their stuff pemmican...
It was so good of you to clarify that you were thinking of the American
lingo rather than English.
On 2024-01-23, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 07:22:38 -0500, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>
wrote:
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2024-01-23, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
bob wrote:
...
Have you tried the english version.. I've eaten it?
haggis? no, i've never had that.
Haggis is, technically, a sausage. Or possibly a pudding, if you're >>>>> inclined to use that word for steamed sausages.
no, i rarely think of anything savory as a pudding
but that is probably an American thing.
Same here.
because it's just forms of stuffing to me at that point.
Blood sausage is a form of stuffing?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_pudding
Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 14:20:12 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2024-01-23 11:20 a.m., songbird wrote:
Dave Smith wrote:
...
I guess they obviously acquired it from the Americas.
it's a generic term to me, just like meat and loaf
are also generic terms.
in the American lingo there are things like pemmican
which may have different versions of similar things in
other languages, but you won't find those other languages
calling their stuff pemmican...
It was so good of you to clarify that you were thinking of the American >>>lingo rather than English.
You're annoying again. Work on that.
it's funny, just play.
Bruce wrote:
It was so good of you to clarify that you were thinking of the American
lingo rather than English.
You're annoying again. Work on that.
it's funny, just play.
On 2024-01-23 5:57 p.m., songbird wrote:
Bruce wrote:
You're annoying again. Work on that.
it's funny, just play.
She is playing. She thinks she is funny.
but to me it is the ingredients and flavors that
count over form and presentation. [...] primarily
i classify based upon ingredients first
On 2024-01-23, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2024-01-23 5:57 p.m., songbird wrote:
Bruce wrote:
You're annoying again. Work on that.
it's funny, just play.
She is playing. She thinks she is funny.
I know it's difficult to keep up with the woke gender
required by modern grammar, but constantly using feminine
pronouns for Bruce is insulting to all the ladies here.
Remember, Bruce is technically a guy. He just sounds gay
because he's always complaining.
As to the 'thinks ... is funny', that is just classic
passive aggression he picked up from his hero Trump.
Say something ignorant. If no response, you got in your
'zinger'. If any complaints, say it was just a joke.
On 2024-01-23, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2024-01-23 5:57 p.m., songbird wrote:
Bruce wrote:
You're annoying again. Work on that.
it's funny, just play.
She is playing. She thinks she is funny.
I know it's difficult to keep up with the woke gender
required by modern grammar, but constantly using feminine
pronouns for Bruce is insulting to all the ladies here.
Remember, Bruce is technically a guy. He just sounds gay
because he's always complaining.
As to the 'thinks ... is funny', that is just classic
passive aggression he picked up from his hero Trump.
Say something ignorant. If no response, you got in your
'zinger'. If any complaints, say it was just a joke.
On 2024-01-23, Dave Smith wrote:
She is playing. She thinks she is funny.
I know it's difficult to keep up with the woke gender
required by modern grammar, but constantly using feminine
pronouns for Bruce is insulting to all the ladies here.
Remember, Bruce is technically a guy. He just sounds gayMaybe it is the cattiness.
because he's always complaining.
As to the 'thinks ... is funny', that is just classic
passive aggression he picked up from his hero Trump.
Say something ignorant. If no response, you got in your
'zinger'. If any complaints, say it was just a joke.
On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 4:46:40 AM UTC-10, bob wrote:
On 2024-01-23 05:48:20 +0000, Bruce said:>> > On Mon, 22 Jan 2024
22:33:45 -0700, Graham <g.st...@shaw.ca> wrote:> >> >> On 2024-01-22
6:25 p.m., songbird wrote:> >>> bob wrote:> >>> ...> >>>> Have you
tried the english version.. I've eaten it?> >>>> >>> haggis? no, i've
never had that.> >>>> >>> i don't know of anything else particularly
English> >>> that might be meatloafish.> >>>> >>>> >>> songbird> >>> >>
Haslet - pronounced "hacelet", at least it is in Lincolnshire.> >>> >>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haslet> >>> >> Whenever I visited my
paternal grandparents, my grandmother always> >> bought some for me. I
thought it delicious.> >> > "There isn't a single, specific dish called
"English meatloaf.> > However, there are several traditional English
meat dishes that are> > similar to meatloaf in concept and preparation.
Here are two prominent> > examples: haslet and Scotch eggs.> >> > So,
while there isn't a single, iconic "English meatloaf," the concept> >
of a savory meat dish formed into a loaf and cooked is definitely> >
present in British cuisine."> >> > And in just about every other
cuisine.
Loaf concoctions are popular!>> You could make a v-egg loaf. Here's a
famous vegetarian recipe:>> "Usually bell pepper, onion, celery,
parsley, bread... all goes through> the meat grinder... meat loaf is
how to clean out your vegetable bin.> I like to grind in some raw
potato, even a carrot, makes a good> pusher." Sheldon Martin
You can also make a meat roll. I suppose you could call it a sausage.
They're more enjoyable to make than they are to eat. Here's one stuffed
with pork and zucchini.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/YrKNQjZAAGBPbQEK8
https://photos.app.goo.gl/NugRyS3SW2XHurZC9
Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 20:36:07 -0500, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>
wrote:
Fake meat can be pretty good these days. We just had a fake meat
schnitzel each. It was just as good as good meat schnitzels that I
remember. I haven't looked at the ingredients yet...
is that a first for you? :)
i will try many things but since we're so used to not
having much added salt it often ends up being too salty.
the other day Mom made a box of the mac-n-cheese and i
forgot how salty that is as it was and made the mistake
of putting some garlic salt on it. yes, i did eat it
but it was too much salt for sure.
songbird
On 2024-01-22 8:25 p.m., songbird wrote:
bob wrote:
...
Have you tried the english version.. I've eaten it?
  haggis? no, i've never had that.
  i don't know of anything else particularly English
that might be meatloafish.
Why on Earth would you think that there is no English meatloaf?
On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 20:36:07 -0500, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>
wrote:
in my life i've made very few things i could not eat.
liver soup was one of them, i've written about that one
here in the past. i kept trying to fix it in various
ways and all it did was make even more of something i
did not want to eat. so i stopped and got rid of it
and since then have never made liver soup again.
I don't know if I'd eat it. Liver used to be one of my favourite
meats, so probably.
i consider it one of my pet peeves and sins if i waste
food so i try very hard to not do that and am almost
always successful.
but to get back to meatloaf. i've also made some non-
meat versions which were ok to me, but i'm sure others
would find them inedible. about 1/3 TVP, 1/3 pasta and
1/3 oatmeal mixed with various spices and tomato paste
(to give it some reasonable color, but also for the
flavor and umami it adds (fry it first and burn some of
it if you must)). mushrooms and onions are always good.
etc.
Fake meat can be pretty good these days. We just had a fake meat
schnitzel each. It was just as good as good meat schnitzels that I
remember. I haven't looked at the ingredients yet...
On 1/20/2024 11:36 AM, songbird wrote:
is that a first for you? :)
i will try many things but since we're so used to not
having much added salt it often ends up being too salty.
the other day Mom made a box of the mac-n-cheese and i
forgot how salty that is as it was and made the mistake
of putting some garlic salt on it. yes, i did eat it
but it was too much salt for sure.
songbird
The ingredients in fake meat has been pointed out to him many times.
It's amazing to me how many "vegetarians" insist on products that look,
taste like and have the texture of meat with a ton of chemical
ingredients to make soy taste like meat.
On 1/20/2024 11:36 AM, songbird wrote:
Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 20:36:07 -0500, songbird
<songbird@anthive.com>
wrote:
Fake meat can be pretty good these days. We just had a fake
meat
schnitzel each. It was just as good as good meat schnitzels
that I
remember. I haven't looked at the ingredients yet...
is that a first for you? :)
i will try many things but since we're so used to not
having much added salt it often ends up being too salty.
the other day Mom made a box of the mac-n-cheese and i
forgot how salty that is as it was and made the mistake
of putting some garlic salt on it. yes, i did eat it
but it was too much salt for sure.
songbird
The ingredients in fake meat has been pointed out to him many
times. It's amazing to me how many "vegetarians" insist on
products that look, taste like and have the texture of meat
with a ton of chemical ingredients to make soy taste like meat.
Jill
On 2024-01-20 01:41:03 +0000, Bruce said:
Fake meat can be pretty good these days. We just had a fake meat
schnitzel each. It was just as good as good meat schnitzels that I
remember. I haven't looked at the ingredients yet...
You look at everyone else's food ingredients and immediately post
'em... but you ate this and haven't bothered to look at the
ingredients yet? Sorta of substantiates your prickliness.
if i ever visit them i'll pick up the lingo then.
i know way too many languages as it is, i'm not likely
to go out of my way to pick up yet another without a
really good reason. if they try to invade again i may
have to get out the crisps and chips, pip pip and all
that rot...
songbird
songbird wrote:...
if i ever visit them i'll pick up the lingo then.
i know way too many languages as it is, i'm not likely
to go out of my way to pick up yet another without a
really good reason. if they try to invade again i may
have to get out the crisps and chips, pip pip and all
that rot...
LOL, but it's interesting to know a bit about different names of
things. I just don't fret about it. Some here get all twisted out of
shape if the name and recipe dosn't match to a T, exactly like they
think it should. It would be funny if it weren't so sadly limiting.
On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 16:29:41 -0700, bob <bob@sympatico.com> wrote:
On 2024-01-20 01:41:03 +0000, Bruce said:
Fake meat can be pretty good these days. We just had a fake meat
schnitzel each. It was just as good as good meat schnitzels that I
remember. I haven't looked at the ingredients yet...
You look at everyone else's food ingredients and immediately post
'em... but you ate this and haven't bothered to look at the
ingredients yet? Sorta of substantiates your prickliness.
Substantiating one's prickliness... a fascinating concept indeed!
On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 16:29:41 -0700, bob <bob@sympatico.com> wrote:
On 2024-01-20 01:41:03 +0000, Bruce said:Substantiating one's prickliness... a fascinating concept indeed!
Fake meat can be pretty good these days. We just had a fake meat
schnitzel each. It was just as good as good meat schnitzels that I
remember. I haven't looked at the ingredients yet...
You look at everyone else's food ingredients and immediately post
'em... but you ate this and haven't bothered to look at the
ingredients yet? Sorta of substantiates your prickliness.
In article <uos8m8$20n2j$1@dont-email.me>,
Bruce@invalid.invalid says...
On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 16:29:41 -0700, bob <bob@sympatico.com> wrote:
On 2024-01-20 01:41:03 +0000, Bruce said:Substantiating one's prickliness... a fascinating concept indeed!
Fake meat can be pretty good these days. We just had a fake meat
schnitzel each. It was just as good as good meat schnitzels that I
remember. I haven't looked at the ingredients yet...
You look at everyone else's food ingredients and immediately post
'em... but you ate this and haven't bothered to look at the
ingredients yet? Sorta of substantiates your prickliness.
Only Kuthe admits to doing that.
cshenk wrote:
songbird wrote:
...if i ever visit them i'll pick up the lingo then.
i know way too many languages as it is, i'm not likely
to go out of my way to pick up yet another without a
really good reason. if they try to invade again i may
have to get out the crisps and chips, pip pip and all
that rot...
LOL, but it's interesting to know a bit about different names of
things. I just don't fret about it. Some here get all twisted out
of shape if the name and recipe dosn't match to a T, exactly like
they think it should. It would be funny if it weren't so sadly
limiting.
sure, i don't mind hearing different names and techniques
but i may not remember them or care particularly. :)
today Mom was making cranberry bread and was looking up a
recipe for it, i just told her to use the one for raisin
bread instead. turns out she used the Boston Brown bread
recipe since she was also making that... i'm not sure i'll
get a slice or not. sometimes things get given away
without any allocation to the sous chef...
songbird
songbird wrote:...
...today Mom was making cranberry bread and was looking up a
recipe for it, i just told her to use the one for raisin
bread instead. turns out she used the Boston Brown bread
recipe since she was also making that... i'm not sure i'll
get a slice or not. sometimes things get given away
without any allocation to the sous chef...
Smile, I'm evil like that too sometimes. I hope she added a dood bit of sweetner to that! (or preboiled them with a lot of sugar).
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