On Sun, 14 Jan 2024 09:01:43 -0800 (PST), dsi1
<dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 1:43:46 PM UTC-10, Sqwertz wrote:

Carol made me go down an figure out a real dinner for tonight. It
looks like it'll be a "meat and three".

https://i.postimg.cc/5NYhW8nJ/Rainbow-Trout-Broccoli-Squish.jpg

Broiled rainbow trout, steamed broccoli, sauteed yellow squish...
and everybody in the South should already know what the mandatory
third side is. And I even have a couple kiddie cups of mandarins
and mangoes (NOT impregnated in green or red Jello!), that I
accidentally froze in my haste to put away groceries last week and
just discovered now (oops?).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat_and_three
(There's a Hawaiian version too? <sigh> Take it away, dsi1)

Contrary to last night's meal which was a "meat and three more"
(no wiki reference for this one, a Sqwertz Original)

https://i.postimg.cc/T1WCFJGH/Hibernation-Meal.jpg
(pork ribs, fried chicken, chuck eye steak, and ham/bean stew)

-sw

There is no version of meat and three in Hawaii.

I get the impression that a standard meal in Hawaii isn't meat and
three, but meat and one. The one being rice.

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On 2024-01-14, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jan 2024 09:01:43 -0800 (PST), dsi1
<dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 1:43:46 PM UTC-10, Sqwertz wrote:

Carol made me go down an figure out a real dinner for tonight. It
looks like it'll be a "meat and three".

https://i.postimg.cc/5NYhW8nJ/Rainbow-Trout-Broccoli-Squish.jpg

Broiled rainbow trout, steamed broccoli, sauteed yellow squish...
and everybody in the South should already know what the mandatory
third side is. And I even have a couple kiddie cups of mandarins
and mangoes (NOT impregnated in green or red Jello!), that I
accidentally froze in my haste to put away groceries last week and
just discovered now (oops?).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat_and_three
(There's a Hawaiian version too? <sigh> Take it away, dsi1)

Contrary to last night's meal which was a "meat and three more"
(no wiki reference for this one, a Sqwertz Original)

https://i.postimg.cc/T1WCFJGH/Hibernation-Meal.jpg
(pork ribs, fried chicken, chuck eye steak, and ham/bean stew)

-sw

There is no version of meat and three in Hawaii.

I get the impression that a standard meal in Hawaii isn't meat and
three, but meat and one. The one being rice.

Meat and two. Don't forget the macaroni salad.

--
Cindy Hamilton

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On 2024-01-14, dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 1:43:46 PM UTC-10, Sqwertz wrote:

Carol made me go down an figure out a real dinner for tonight. It
looks like it'll be a "meat and three".

https://i.postimg.cc/5NYhW8nJ/Rainbow-Trout-Broccoli-Squish.jpg

Broiled rainbow trout, steamed broccoli, sauteed yellow squish...
and everybody in the South should already know what the mandatory
third side is. And I even have a couple kiddie cups of mandarins
and mangoes (NOT impregnated in green or red Jello!), that I
accidentally froze in my haste to put away groceries last week and
just discovered now (oops?).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat_and_three
(There's a Hawaiian version too? <sigh> Take it away, dsi1)

Contrary to last night's meal which was a "meat and three more"
(no wiki reference for this one, a Sqwertz Original)

https://i.postimg.cc/T1WCFJGH/Hibernation-Meal.jpg
(pork ribs, fried chicken, chuck eye steak, and ham/bean stew)

-sw

There is no version of meat and three in Hawaii. It might be the way the mainlanders see it but the locals don't. The closest thing we have to counting our food is a Korean plate lunch. Typically you order your meat and it comes with rice. Then you get

your choice of 4 side dishes. It could be corn, shoyu potatoes, choy sum, kim chee, cucumber kim chee, chap chae, tofu, et al. We got this plate at the Korean place in the mall. My wife loves the kim chee there. She says it tastes like the kim chee her
mom used to make. I think the guy adds a splash of industrial solvent to the kim chee.

Please ignore all entries that mention the word "Hawaii" in Wikipedia. Mahalo.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/a2UYoeL447Vt4RwS7

Looked delicious, but I would have gone for something else
besides corn.

--
Cindy Hamilton

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On Sun, 14 Jan 2024 17:39:20 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
<hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2024-01-14, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jan 2024 09:01:43 -0800 (PST), dsi1
<dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 1:43:46 PM UTC-10, Sqwertz wrote:

Carol made me go down an figure out a real dinner for tonight. It
looks like it'll be a "meat and three".

https://i.postimg.cc/5NYhW8nJ/Rainbow-Trout-Broccoli-Squish.jpg

Broiled rainbow trout, steamed broccoli, sauteed yellow squish...
and everybody in the South should already know what the mandatory
third side is. And I even have a couple kiddie cups of mandarins
and mangoes (NOT impregnated in green or red Jello!), that I
accidentally froze in my haste to put away groceries last week and
just discovered now (oops?).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat_and_three
(There's a Hawaiian version too? <sigh> Take it away, dsi1)

Contrary to last night's meal which was a "meat and three more"
(no wiki reference for this one, a Sqwertz Original)

https://i.postimg.cc/T1WCFJGH/Hibernation-Meal.jpg
(pork ribs, fried chicken, chuck eye steak, and ham/bean stew)

-sw

There is no version of meat and three in Hawaii.

I get the impression that a standard meal in Hawaii isn't meat and
three, but meat and one. The one being rice.

Meat and two. Don't forget the macaroni salad.

Ah, yes, and not al dente.

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On 2024-01-14, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jan 2024 17:39:20 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
<hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2024-01-14, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jan 2024 09:01:43 -0800 (PST), dsi1
<dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 1:43:46 PM UTC-10, Sqwertz wrote:

Carol made me go down an figure out a real dinner for tonight. It
looks like it'll be a "meat and three".

https://i.postimg.cc/5NYhW8nJ/Rainbow-Trout-Broccoli-Squish.jpg

Broiled rainbow trout, steamed broccoli, sauteed yellow squish...
and everybody in the South should already know what the mandatory
third side is. And I even have a couple kiddie cups of mandarins
and mangoes (NOT impregnated in green or red Jello!), that I
accidentally froze in my haste to put away groceries last week and
just discovered now (oops?).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat_and_three
(There's a Hawaiian version too? <sigh> Take it away, dsi1)

Contrary to last night's meal which was a "meat and three more"
(no wiki reference for this one, a Sqwertz Original)

https://i.postimg.cc/T1WCFJGH/Hibernation-Meal.jpg
(pork ribs, fried chicken, chuck eye steak, and ham/bean stew)

-sw

There is no version of meat and three in Hawaii.

I get the impression that a standard meal in Hawaii isn't meat and
three, but meat and one. The one being rice.

Meat and two. Don't forget the macaroni salad.

Ah, yes, and not al dente.

That's not unusual in the U.S. I was probably 25 years old before
I had al dente pasta.

On the other hand, cold pasta might be better cooked a little more.

"Pasta that's cooked al dente and then served hot is _perfetto_. Pasta
that's cooked al dente and then served cold is a disgrace. That's
because, as the cooked pasta cools, the starch in it goes through a
process known as retrogradation, in which the starch molecules reform
into a more solid crystalline structure—in essence, it rapidly becomes
stale like bread.
The key to cooking pasta that has a better texture when served cool is
to overcook it by about two to three minutes beyond the al dente stage,
so that it's very soft (but not mushy) throughout. That way, once cooled
down under cold running water, it will firm up just enough to regain
that desirable al dente texture."

https://www.seriouseats.com/how-to-make-the-best-pasta-salad

I'm not a big fan of pasta salads, so I don't have any empirical
evidence.

--
Cindy Hamilton

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On Sun, 14 Jan 2024 21:00:00 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
<hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2024-01-14, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Ah, yes, and not al dente.

That's not unusual in the U.S. I was probably 25 years old before
I had al dente pasta.

On the other hand, cold pasta might be better cooked a little more.

"Pasta that's cooked al dente and then served hot is _perfetto_. Pasta
that's cooked al dente and then served cold is a disgrace. That's
because, as the cooked pasta cools, the starch in it goes through a
process known as retrogradation, in which the starch molecules reform
into a more solid crystalline structure—in essence, it rapidly becomes >stale like bread.
The key to cooking pasta that has a better texture when served cool is
to overcook it by about two to three minutes beyond the al dente stage,
so that it's very soft (but not mushy) throughout. That way, once cooled
down under cold running water, it will firm up just enough to regain
that desirable al dente texture."

https://www.seriouseats.com/how-to-make-the-best-pasta-salad

I'm not a big fan of pasta salads, so I don't have any empirical
evidence.

Yes, I can imagine al dente pasta gets too hard when it cools off. But
I also understood that Hawaiian macaroni salad wants the macaroni
mushy anyway. So overcooking FTW.

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