• Re: A compliment to (most) folks who post here

    From Ed P@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Tue Jan 9 10:23:47 2024
    On 1/9/2024 8:41 AM, BryanGSimmons wrote:
    This is what I posted to "Nextdoor."

    "To everyone:  Folks often post here without bothering to pay attention
    to simple spelling and grammar.  If your posts are of so little value to
    you that they are not worthy of writing at a middle school level, why
    should anyone else value your posts?  If you want your opinions to be respected, write like reasonably intelligent grownups."


    Yes, I agree. And with that, you don't call women nasty names. When
    you denigrate someone with four language it just makes you look bad.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Wed Jan 10 23:49:13 2024
    On 1/10/2024 11:34 PM, BryanGSimmons wrote:
    On 1/9/2024 9:41 AM, GM wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 9:23:53 AM UTC-6, Ed P wrote:
    On 1/9/2024 8:41 AM, BryanGSimmons wrote:
    This is what I posted to "Nextdoor."

    "To everyone:  Folks often post here without bothering to pay attention >>>> to simple spelling and grammar.  If your posts are of so little
    value to
    you that they are not worthy of writing at a middle school level, why
    should anyone else value your posts?  If you want your opinions to be >>>> respected, write like reasonably intelligent grownups."

    Yes, I agree. And with that, you don't call women nasty names. When
    you denigrate someone with four language it just makes you look bad.


    That is *your* "opinion", Ed...

    Nothing wrong with publicly calling out a bilious nagging shrew like
    Jill (I assume this is the sitch you are referring to; this also
    applies to Janet UK)...

    It's 2024, *not* 1884... women are no.longer a weak " protected class
    "... they can vote, wear pants, hold professional jobs, initiate
    divorce, boast about their orgasms, and even own property in this day
    and age, just so ya know...

    Ed is old fashioned.  Chivalry is a component of male supremacy.


    Has nothing to do with supremacy, has everything to do with respect.
    Not just women, men too. Did it bother you when someone recently called
    you "White Trash"? Do YOU want to be respected?

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Ed P on Thu Jan 11 16:52:16 2024
    On Wed, 10 Jan 2024 23:49:13 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    On 1/10/2024 11:34 PM, BryanGSimmons wrote:
    On 1/9/2024 9:41 AM, GM wrote:

    That is *your* "opinion", Ed...

    Nothing wrong with publicly calling out a bilious nagging shrew like
    Jill (I assume this is the sitch you are referring to; this also
    applies to Janet UK)...

    It's 2024, *not* 1884... women are no.longer a weak " protected class
    "... they can vote, wear pants, hold professional jobs, initiate
    divorce, boast about their orgasms, and even own property in this day
    and age, just so ya know...

    Ed is old fashioned.  Chivalry is a component of male supremacy.

    Has nothing to do with supremacy, has everything to do with respect.
    Not just women, men too. Did it bother you when someone recently called
    you "White Trash"? Do YOU want to be respected?

    Was that me? If not, I wish it was.

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  • From Sqwertz@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Thu Jan 11 23:52:50 2024
    On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 07:41:55 -0600, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    This is what I posted to "Nextdoor."

    "To everyone: Folks often post here without bothering to pay attention
    to simple spelling and grammar. If your posts are of so little value to
    you that they are not worthy of writing at a middle school level, why
    should anyone else value your posts? If you want your opinions to be respected, write like reasonably intelligent grownups."

    It pissed off lots of people. Whatever else about most of the folks on
    this NG, you write like grownups, not morons. Kuthe should post to
    Nextdoor, and maybe when GoogleGroups cuts him off, he will.

    I like to straddle the line on being banned from Nextdoor. I used
    to post lots of ambiguous innuendos and most people didn't get
    them. Nextdoor is very low-brow-IQ. I don't post there much
    anymore.

    -sw

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  • From Sqwertz@21:1/5 to Ed P on Thu Jan 11 23:54:18 2024
    On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 10:23:47 -0500, Ed P wrote:

    Yes, I agree. And with that, you don't call women nasty names. When
    you denigrate someone with four language it just makes you look bad.

    But how many people on Nextdoor know four languages?!?!

    =sw

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 12 18:58:06 2024
    On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 23:54:18 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.compost>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 10:23:47 -0500, Ed P wrote:

    Yes, I agree. And with that, you don't call women nasty names. When
    you denigrate someone with four language it just makes you look bad.

    But how many people on Nextdoor know four languages?!?!

    And how many on RFC?

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Sqwertz on Fri Jan 12 09:14:17 2024
    On 2024-01-12 12:52 a.m., Sqwertz wrote:
    On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 07:41:55 -0600, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    It pissed off lots of people. Whatever else about most of the folks on
    this NG, you write like grownups, not morons. Kuthe should post to
    Nextdoor, and maybe when GoogleGroups cuts him off, he will.

    I like to straddle the line on being banned from Nextdoor. I used
    to post lots of ambiguous innuendos and most people didn't get
    them. Nextdoor is very low-brow-IQ. I don't post there much
    anymore.

    I tried that one or a similar app. I didn't last long. It was our neighbourhood. I live in a town that is an amalgamation of four villages
    and this one was for our village and supposedly for local events and information. Most of the group members were from out of town. It wasn't
    so bad that some were from the other villages within the town but most
    were from other towns and cities, some of them an hour or more away.

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri Jan 12 10:54:00 2024
    On 1/12/2024 9:14 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-01-12 12:52 a.m., Sqwertz wrote:

    I like to straddle the line on being banned from Nextdoor. I used
    to post lots of ambiguous innuendos and most people didn't get
    them.  Nextdoor is very low-brow-IQ.  I don't post there much
    anymore.

    I tried that one or a similar app. I didn't last long. It was our neighbourhood. I live in a town that is an amalgamation of four villages
    and this one was for our village and supposedly for local events and information.  Most of the group members were from out of town. It wasn't
    so bad that some were from the other villages within the town but most
    were from other towns and cities, some of them an hour or more away.


    Dave, you can drill down on NextDoor to limit posts to specific
    neighbohoods. Maybe that feature wasn't there when you tried it.

    Still, NextDoor is pretty lame. In this area the posts primarily
    consist of people who "lost" their dog or cat. It's practically a daily occurrence. Conversely, someone's pet shows up on some doorstep and
    they're trying to find the owner. The pet sometimes has a collar but no
    tag, or a tag that doesn't give a clue who the owner is. (Someone even
    lost a $5000 Macaw! That's a parrot, for those who don't know. Good
    lord, clip the wing feathers so it can't fly away. It's painless and
    your $5000 bird won't fly out the door, which you shouldn't have left
    open in the first place.) I had no idea there were so many careless pet
    owners in the Beaufort area.

    NextDoor has also become increasingly commercial. Many of the posts are nothing but advertising.

    Although I have to say, NextDoor was helpful when the rice rat got into
    the laundry room through the broken dryer vent cap last year. My
    mention of it on NextDoor, along with the photo of a pile of acorns in
    the chewed through dryer hose, garnered an immediate response from a
    local handyman. Turns out he used to work for Dataw Security. He went
    to Lowes Hardware, picked up a new vent cap and hose. He cleaned up the
    acorn mess in the laundry room, installed the new hose and vent cap. He
    only charged me for the (very inexpensive) parts + $25 for the work. It
    saved me the time and trouble of having to drive across town to Lowes
    and do the repairs myself. :)

    Jill

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 13 03:18:50 2024
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 10:54:00 -0500, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
    wrote:

    Dave, you can drill down on NextDoor to limit posts to specific
    neighbohoods. Maybe that feature wasn't there when you tried it.

    Still, NextDoor is pretty lame. In this area the posts primarily
    consist of people who "lost" their dog or cat. It's practically a daily >occurrence. Conversely, someone's pet shows up on some doorstep and
    they're trying to find the owner. The pet sometimes has a collar but no
    tag, or a tag that doesn't give a clue who the owner is. (Someone even
    lost a $5000 Macaw! That's a parrot, for those who don't know. Good
    lord, clip the wing feathers so it can't fly away. It's painless and
    your $5000 bird won't fly out the door, which you shouldn't have left
    open in the first place.) I had no idea there were so many careless pet >owners in the Beaufort area.

    Does one still stick birds in cages in this day and age? And has one
    found out what the purpose of this practice is?

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  • From lucretia@florence.it@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 12 14:34:39 2024
    On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 03:18:50 +1100, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 10:54:00 -0500, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
    wrote:

    Dave, you can drill down on NextDoor to limit posts to specific >>neighbohoods. Maybe that feature wasn't there when you tried it.

    Still, NextDoor is pretty lame. In this area the posts primarily
    consist of people who "lost" their dog or cat. It's practically a daily >>occurrence. Conversely, someone's pet shows up on some doorstep and >>they're trying to find the owner. The pet sometimes has a collar but no >>tag, or a tag that doesn't give a clue who the owner is. (Someone even >>lost a $5000 Macaw! That's a parrot, for those who don't know. Good
    lord, clip the wing feathers so it can't fly away. It's painless and
    your $5000 bird won't fly out the door, which you shouldn't have left
    open in the first place.) I had no idea there were so many careless pet >>owners in the Beaufort area.

    Does one still stick birds in cages in this day and age? And has one
    found out what the purpose of this practice is?

    I had a parrot as a child, he liked to be in his cage at night but the
    rest of the time he came and went. My father clipped his wings a
    little so he stayed in our trees. He had obviously been with a family
    at some stage who had a newborn and he would cry when he saw a child,
    I remember one small kid being terribly distressed by it, we couldn't
    convince him nothing was wrong.

    He did have to be shut in his cage when there were visitors as he
    liked to sample their drinks.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Sat Jan 13 08:04:54 2024
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 14:34:39 -0400, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 03:18:50 +1100, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    Does one still stick birds in cages in this day and age? And has one
    found out what the purpose of this practice is?

    I had a parrot as a child, he liked to be in his cage at night but the
    rest of the time he came and went. My father clipped his wings a
    little so he stayed in our trees. He had obviously been with a family
    at some stage who had a newborn and he would cry when he saw a child,
    I remember one small kid being terribly distressed by it, we couldn't >convince him nothing was wrong.

    He did have to be shut in his cage when there were visitors as he
    liked to sample their drinks.

    We had a parrot too. He could do the sound of our toilet flushing and
    he could do my laugh (no, that didn't sound the same). But when you
    think about it, it's a terribly cruel thing to do. Get a bird that
    should fly around in the Amazon rain forest and put it in a cage for
    decades, why?

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  • From lucretia@florence.it@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 12 19:09:23 2024
    On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 08:04:54 +1100, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 14:34:39 -0400, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 03:18:50 +1100, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    Does one still stick birds in cages in this day and age? And has one >>>found out what the purpose of this practice is?

    I had a parrot as a child, he liked to be in his cage at night but the
    rest of the time he came and went. My father clipped his wings a
    little so he stayed in our trees. He had obviously been with a family
    at some stage who had a newborn and he would cry when he saw a child,
    I remember one small kid being terribly distressed by it, we couldn't >>convince him nothing was wrong.

    He did have to be shut in his cage when there were visitors as he
    liked to sample their drinks.

    We had a parrot too. He could do the sound of our toilet flushing and
    he could do my laugh (no, that didn't sound the same). But when you
    think about it, it's a terribly cruel thing to do. Get a bird that
    should fly around in the Amazon rain forest and put it in a cage for
    decades, why?

    I believe he enjoyed his life and perhaps in the end he had less
    worries than a free bird in the Amazon.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Sat Jan 13 10:37:00 2024
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 19:09:23 -0400, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 08:04:54 +1100, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 14:34:39 -0400, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 03:18:50 +1100, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    Does one still stick birds in cages in this day and age? And has one >>>>found out what the purpose of this practice is?

    I had a parrot as a child, he liked to be in his cage at night but the >>>rest of the time he came and went. My father clipped his wings a
    little so he stayed in our trees. He had obviously been with a family
    at some stage who had a newborn and he would cry when he saw a child,
    I remember one small kid being terribly distressed by it, we couldn't >>>convince him nothing was wrong.

    He did have to be shut in his cage when there were visitors as he
    liked to sample their drinks.

    We had a parrot too. He could do the sound of our toilet flushing and
    he could do my laugh (no, that didn't sound the same). But when you
    think about it, it's a terribly cruel thing to do. Get a bird that
    should fly around in the Amazon rain forest and put it in a cage for >>decades, why?

    I believe he enjoyed his life and perhaps in the end he had less
    worries than a free bird in the Amazon.

    Nah.

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  • From Gregory Morrow@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri Jan 12 19:51:44 2024
    Bruce wrote:
    Does one still stick birds in cages in this day and age? And has one
    found out what the purpose of this practice is?

    I've had a parrot for decades and his cage is home to
    him, he's very friendly, will sit on your shoulder and share
    your chips with you nicely.

    I usually leave to cage door open if I'm home and he walks
    in and out as his leisure for the most part. His wings were
    clipped years ago by his previous host, I've never had them
    clipped, and for whatever reason he doesn't attempt to fly
    very often.

    It's just as well that he doesn't fly much, that's the number
    one reason for domestic bird injury's, flying indoors.

    I've had barn cats that kill squirrel in the house near
    him, and for the most part the kitties are afraid oh him.

    One thing for sure, a parrot can end up out living it's owner.

    Really cool friends though, if you pay attention to them.
    --
    GM

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 13 11:57:51 2024
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 19:51:44 -0500, Gregory Morrow <g.morrow@hog.com>
    wrote:

    Bruce wrote:
    Does one still stick birds in cages in this day and age? And has one
    found out what the purpose of this practice is?

    I've had a parrot for decades and his cage is home to
    him, he's very friendly, will sit on your shoulder and share
    your chips with you nicely.

    I usually leave to cage door open if I'm home and he walks
    in and out as his leisure for the most part. His wings were
    clipped years ago by his previous host, I've never had them
    clipped, and for whatever reason he doesn't attempt to fly
    very often.

    It's just as well that he doesn't fly much, that's the number
    one reason for domestic bird injury's, flying indoors.

    I've had barn cats that kill squirrel in the house near
    him, and for the most part the kitties are afraid oh him.

    One thing for sure, a parrot can end up out living it's owner.

    Really cool friends though, if you pay attention to them.

    But they shit wherever the shitting is good. I say let's leave this
    practice in the previous millennium.

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  • From Gregory Morrow@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri Jan 12 20:05:56 2024
    Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 19:51:44 -0500, Gregory Morrow <g.morrow@hog.com>
    wrote:

    Bruce wrote:
    Does one still stick birds in cages in this day and age? And has one
    found out what the purpose of this practice is?

    I've had a parrot for decades and his cage is home to
    him, he's very friendly, will sit on your shoulder and share
    your chips with you nicely.

    I usually leave to cage door open if I'm home and he walks
    in and out as his leisure for the most part. His wings were
    clipped years ago by his previous host, I've never had them
    clipped, and for whatever reason he doesn't attempt to fly
    very often.

    It's just as well that he doesn't fly much, that's the number
    one reason for domestic bird injury's, flying indoors.

    I've had barn cats that kill squirrel in the house near
    him, and for the most part the kitties are afraid oh him.

    One thing for sure, a parrot can end up out living it's owner.

    Really cool friends though, if you pay attention to them.

    But they shit wherever the shitting is good. I say let's leave this
    practice in the previous millennium.


    We all shit, just not down your back. A small inconvenience
    for such a life long friend.
    --
    GM

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 13 12:08:56 2024
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 20:05:56 -0500, Gregory Morrow <g.morrow@hog.com>
    wrote:

    Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 19:51:44 -0500, Gregory Morrow <g.morrow@hog.com>
    wrote:

    Bruce wrote:
    Does one still stick birds in cages in this day and age? And has one
    found out what the purpose of this practice is?

    I've had a parrot for decades and his cage is home to
    him, he's very friendly, will sit on your shoulder and share
    your chips with you nicely.

    I usually leave to cage door open if I'm home and he walks
    in and out as his leisure for the most part. His wings were
    clipped years ago by his previous host, I've never had them
    clipped, and for whatever reason he doesn't attempt to fly
    very often.

    It's just as well that he doesn't fly much, that's the number
    one reason for domestic bird injury's, flying indoors.

    I've had barn cats that kill squirrel in the house near
    him, and for the most part the kitties are afraid oh him.

    One thing for sure, a parrot can end up out living it's owner.

    Really cool friends though, if you pay attention to them.

    But they shit wherever the shitting is good. I say let's leave this
    practice in the previous millennium.

    We all shit, just not down your back.

    A significant difference.

    A small inconvenience for such a life long friend.

    I can believe it.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 13 12:46:56 2024
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 20:27:40 -0500, Gregory Morrow <g.morrow@hog.com>
    wrote:

    Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 20:05:56 -0500, Gregory Morrow <g.morrow@hog.com>
    wrote:

    We all shit, just not down your back.

    A significant difference.

    A small inconvenience for such a life long friend.

    I can believe it.

    This bird was a rescue from a friend that had a cat
    that was hell bent on killing the parrot, something
    like 22 years ago, and we've been buddies since.

    Good idea.

    My wife is not in love with him...yet. :P

    Even though you keep saying to her "But it's a small inconvenience!"

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri Jan 12 21:03:20 2024
    On 1/12/2024 6:37 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 19:09:23 -0400, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 08:04:54 +1100, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 14:34:39 -0400, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 03:18:50 +1100, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    Does one still stick birds in cages in this day and age? And has one >>>>> found out what the purpose of this practice is?

    I had a parrot as a child, he liked to be in his cage at night but the >>>> rest of the time he came and went. My father clipped his wings a
    little so he stayed in our trees. He had obviously been with a family >>>> at some stage who had a newborn and he would cry when he saw a child,
    I remember one small kid being terribly distressed by it, we couldn't
    convince him nothing was wrong.

    He did have to be shut in his cage when there were visitors as he
    liked to sample their drinks.

    We had a parrot too. He could do the sound of our toilet flushing and
    he could do my laugh (no, that didn't sound the same). But when you
    think about it, it's a terribly cruel thing to do. Get a bird that
    should fly around in the Amazon rain forest and put it in a cage for
    decades, why?

    I believe he enjoyed his life and perhaps in the end he had less
    worries than a free bird in the Amazon.

    Nah.


    That begs the question, should we have any pets? Dog and cats? Fish?
    Is it better to be well fed in a human home or to be prey for another
    animal in the wild?

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  • From Gregory Morrow@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri Jan 12 20:27:40 2024
    Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 20:05:56 -0500, Gregory Morrow <g.morrow@hog.com>
    wrote:

    Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 19:51:44 -0500, Gregory Morrow <g.morrow@hog.com>
    wrote:

    Bruce wrote:
    Does one still stick birds in cages in this day and age? And has one >>>>> found out what the purpose of this practice is?

    I've had a parrot for decades and his cage is home to
    him, he's very friendly, will sit on your shoulder and share
    your chips with you nicely.

    I usually leave to cage door open if I'm home and he walks
    in and out as his leisure for the most part. His wings were
    clipped years ago by his previous host, I've never had them
    clipped, and for whatever reason he doesn't attempt to fly
    very often.

    It's just as well that he doesn't fly much, that's the number
    one reason for domestic bird injury's, flying indoors.

    I've had barn cats that kill squirrel in the house near
    him, and for the most part the kitties are afraid oh him.

    One thing for sure, a parrot can end up out living it's owner.

    Really cool friends though, if you pay attention to them.

    But they shit wherever the shitting is good. I say let's leave this
    practice in the previous millennium.

    We all shit, just not down your back.

    A significant difference.

    A small inconvenience for such a life long friend.

    I can believe it.


    This bird was a rescue from a friend that had a cat
    that was hell bent on killing the parrot, something
    like 22 years ago, and we've been buddies since.

    My wife is not in love with him...yet. :P

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  • From Gregory Morrow@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri Jan 12 21:49:39 2024
    Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 20:27:40 -0500, Gregory Morrow <g.morrow@hog.com>
    wrote:

    Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 20:05:56 -0500, Gregory Morrow <g.morrow@hog.com>
    wrote:

    We all shit, just not down your back.

    A significant difference.

    A small inconvenience for such a life long friend.

    I can believe it.

    This bird was a rescue from a friend that had a cat
    that was hell bent on killing the parrot, something
    like 22 years ago, and we've been buddies since.

    Good idea.

    My wife is not in love with him...yet. :P

    Even though you keep saying to her "But it's a small inconvenience!"

    Yes sort of, she tolerates him but he's not cuddly like
    a doggie or kittie, he tolerates her too, so it's all good.

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  • From Gregory Morrow@21:1/5 to Ed P on Fri Jan 12 21:56:49 2024
    Ed P wrote:
    On 1/12/2024 6:37 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 19:09:23 -0400, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 08:04:54 +1100, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 14:34:39 -0400, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 03:18:50 +1100, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    Does one still stick birds in cages in this day and age? And has one >>>>>> found out what the purpose of this practice is?

    I had a parrot as a child, he liked to be in his cage at night but the >>>>> rest of the time he came and went.  My father clipped his wings a
    little so he stayed in our trees.  He had obviously been with a family >>>>> at some stage who had a newborn and he would cry when he saw a child, >>>>> I remember one small kid being terribly distressed by it, we couldn't >>>>> convince him nothing was wrong.

    He did have to be shut in his cage when there were visitors as he
    liked to sample their drinks.

    We had a parrot too. He could do the sound of our toilet flushing and
    he could do my laugh (no, that didn't sound the same). But when you
    think about it, it's a terribly cruel thing to do. Get a bird that
    should fly around in the Amazon rain forest and put it in a cage for
    decades, why?

    I believe he enjoyed his life and perhaps in the end he had less
    worries than a free bird in the Amazon.

    Nah.


    That begs the question, should we have any pets?  Dog and cats?  Fish?
    Is it better to be well fed in a human home or to be prey for another
    animal in the wild?


    I used to hunt game for eating purposes but I gave it up,
    I'm too much of an animal lover to pull the trigger now.

    I could harvest a deer anytime in season in my back yard,
    hunting and gunfire are legal here.
    --
    GM

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sat Jan 13 13:57:44 2024
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 21:03:20 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    On 1/12/2024 6:37 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 19:09:23 -0400, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    I believe he enjoyed his life and perhaps in the end he had less
    worries than a free bird in the Amazon.

    Nah.

    That begs the question, should we have any pets? Dog and cats? Fish?
    Is it better to be well fed in a human home or to be prey for another
    animal in the wild?

    Putting an animal in a cage is cruel. I don't think anybody can
    disagree with that. But if you go to a cat shelter, dog shelter, etc
    and you give an animal a good home, that's great, I think. Or what
    Ophelia did: go to a shelter and get a dog that may only have a few
    more years to live and give it a nice old age. That's wonderful. We
    may do that for one or two cats later in life. Don't get your animal
    from breeders or puppy mills.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 13 13:59:51 2024
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 21:49:39 -0500, Gregory Morrow <g.morrow@hog.com>
    wrote:

    Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 20:27:40 -0500, Gregory Morrow <g.morrow@hog.com>
    wrote:

    This bird was a rescue from a friend that had a cat
    that was hell bent on killing the parrot, something
    like 22 years ago, and we've been buddies since.

    Good idea.

    My wife is not in love with him...yet. :P

    Even though you keep saying to her "But it's a small inconvenience!"

    Yes sort of, she tolerates him but he's not cuddly like
    a doggie or kittie, he tolerates her too, so it's all good.

    Our parrot used to bite your arm if it was sitting on it. Not
    aggressively, but slowly and hard. Man, did that hurt.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri Jan 12 22:09:01 2024
    On 1/12/2024 9:57 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 21:03:20 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    On 1/12/2024 6:37 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 19:09:23 -0400, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    I believe he enjoyed his life and perhaps in the end he had less
    worries than a free bird in the Amazon.

    Nah.

    That begs the question, should we have any pets? Dog and cats? Fish?
    Is it better to be well fed in a human home or to be prey for another
    animal in the wild?

    Putting an animal in a cage is cruel. I don't think anybody can
    disagree with that.

    Took your advice and set my goldfish free!. They were so happy, they
    just bounced around with joy. They are sleeping now.

    But if you go to a cat shelter, dog shelter, etc
    and you give an animal a good home, that's great, I think. Or what
    Ophelia did: go to a shelter and get a dog that may only have a few
    more years to live and give it a nice old age. That's wonderful. We
    may do that for one or two cats later in life. Don't get your animal
    from breeders or puppy mills.


    My granddaughter's in-laws do that. We visited them a few weeks ago and
    they have a dog that is deaf and blind, but seems quite happy being
    there. Couple of other rescue dogs too.

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  • From Gregory Morrow@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri Jan 12 22:21:45 2024
    Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 21:49:39 -0500, Gregory Morrow <g.morrow@hog.com>
    wrote:

    Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 20:27:40 -0500, Gregory Morrow <g.morrow@hog.com>
    wrote:

    This bird was a rescue from a friend that had a cat
    that was hell bent on killing the parrot, something
    like 22 years ago, and we've been buddies since.

    Good idea.

    My wife is not in love with him...yet. :P

    Even though you keep saying to her "But it's a small inconvenience!"

    Yes sort of, she tolerates him but he's not cuddly like
    a doggie or kittie, he tolerates her too, so it's all good.

    Our parrot used to bite your arm if it was sitting on it. Not
    aggressively, but slowly and hard. Man, did that hurt.


    Yes they can make you bleed without trying, mine likes to play
    which involves that big beak of his but he doesn't try to hurt
    you on purpose. Their claws/talons are sharp too.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sat Jan 13 14:43:12 2024
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 22:09:01 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    On 1/12/2024 9:57 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 21:03:20 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    On 1/12/2024 6:37 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 19:09:23 -0400, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    I believe he enjoyed his life and perhaps in the end he had less
    worries than a free bird in the Amazon.

    Nah.

    That begs the question, should we have any pets? Dog and cats? Fish?
    Is it better to be well fed in a human home or to be prey for another
    animal in the wild?

    Putting an animal in a cage is cruel. I don't think anybody can
    disagree with that.

    Took your advice and set my goldfish free!. They were so happy, they
    just bounced around with joy. They are sleeping now.

    I'm not saying we should release pet animals into the wild after
    they've gotten dependent on pet life.

    But if you go to a cat shelter, dog shelter, etc
    and you give an animal a good home, that's great, I think. Or what
    Ophelia did: go to a shelter and get a dog that may only have a few
    more years to live and give it a nice old age. That's wonderful. We
    may do that for one or two cats later in life. Don't get your animal
    from breeders or puppy mills.

    My granddaughter's in-laws do that. We visited them a few weeks ago and
    they have a dog that is deaf and blind, but seems quite happy being
    there. Couple of other rescue dogs too.

    I think that's great. I'd never want a pet that survives us. Who knows
    what would happen to it. A cat can live 20 years. Who can be sure they
    have another 20 years to live after they are a certain age? My wife's
    younger than me, that helps. And of course, your granddaughter
    probably doesn't have this concern yet, unless you're a 100 :)

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Ed P on Fri Jan 12 22:52:46 2024
    On 2024-01-12 10:09 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 1/12/2024 9:57 PM, Bruce wrote:

    Took your advice and set my goldfish free!.  They were so happy, they
    just bounced around with joy.  They are sleeping now.

    But if you go to a cat shelter, dog shelter, etc
    and you give an animal a good home, that's great, I think. Or what
    Ophelia did: go to a shelter and get a dog that may only have a few
    more years to live and give it a nice old age. That's wonderful. We
    may do that for one or two cats later in life. Don't get your animal
    from breeders or puppy mills.

    My last four dogs have been second hand. One was adopted from the Humane society at age 18 months. A little loving and some training and he
    became a great pet. The next was we got from a friend of a friend whose
    family circumstances made it impossible to care for the dog properly. He
    had been well trained and he quickly fit in here. He was loyal and
    loving, a great dog. The next one had originally been Hurricane Katrina
    and was being evicted from the trailer park in Florida where the family
    spent their winters. He was a handful but he eventually settled down
    and was a nice dog. The current one we took over from a couple who were
    no longer able to care for him. The groomer and dog sitter who knew him
    before think he is so much happier than we had been before. I didn't
    have to train him to come. He just loves to be around us.

    My granddaughter's in-laws do that.  We visited them a few weeks ago and they have a dog that is deaf and blind, but seems quite happy being
    there.  Couple of other rescue dogs too.

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  • From Sqwertz@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat Jan 13 04:03:43 2024
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 09:14:17 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2024-01-12 12:52 a.m., Sqwertz wrote:
    On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 07:41:55 -0600, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    It pissed off lots of people. Whatever else about most of the folks on
    this NG, you write like grownups, not morons. Kuthe should post to
    Nextdoor, and maybe when GoogleGroups cuts him off, he will.

    I like to straddle the line on being banned from Nextdoor. I used
    to post lots of ambiguous innuendos and most people didn't get
    them. Nextdoor is very low-brow-IQ. I don't post there much
    anymore.

    I tried that one or a similar app. I didn't last long. It was our neighbourhood. I live in a town that is an amalgamation of four villages
    and this one was for our village and supposedly for local events and information. Most of the group members were from out of town. It wasn't
    so bad that some were from the other villages within the town but most
    were from other towns and cities, some of them an hour or more away.

    Nextdoor actually verifies your identity, and depending on who set
    up your local groups, you sometimes MUST list your address (or at
    least your street(*)) and always use your real name. I signed
    through referrals of referrals (all but one was fake) at a dozen
    different address, and always change my name. But some asshole
    always rats me out and Nextdoor requires that I submit my DL/ID to
    them for verification (yeah, right... MY ASS!). I've burned
    probably 8 different accounts by now.

    They're hard to thwart, but you can do it.

    (*) It doesn't help that there's only 4 houses on my street and
    the other 3 are on Nextdoor. No thank you!

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  • From Sqwertz@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Sat Jan 13 04:25:43 2024
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 10:54:00 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

    I had no idea there were so many careless pet
    owners in the Beaufort area.

    And in other neighborhoods, people who don't lock their car doors
    with their laptops inside. Even though they read about other
    people's cars getting ransacked and stuff stolen at least weekly.

    Then come crying on nextdoor when it happens to them. They always
    claim their cars were "broken into" but its almost always
    bullshit - they left the doors unlocked with their valuables
    inside. One of their neighbors or even themselves will post video
    of the thieves just opening unlocked doors without any tools.

    Duh! They've got their own cameras showing the unlocked car theft
    from 3 different angles, but leave shit in their cars and don't
    lock the doors (but insist they did lock it). It seems so.... counterproductive.

    Stupid people don't realize how stupid they are and always insist
    they're smarter than everyone else.

    -sw

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  • From lucretia@florence.it@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 13 08:13:29 2024
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 19:51:44 -0500, Gregory Morrow <g.morrow@hog.com>
    wrote:

    Bruce wrote:
    Does one still stick birds in cages in this day and age? And has one
    found out what the purpose of this practice is?

    I've had a parrot for decades and his cage is home to
    him, he's very friendly, will sit on your shoulder and share
    your chips with you nicely.

    I usually leave to cage door open if I'm home and he walks
    in and out as his leisure for the most part. His wings were
    clipped years ago by his previous host, I've never had them
    clipped, and for whatever reason he doesn't attempt to fly
    very often.

    It's just as well that he doesn't fly much, that's the number
    one reason for domestic bird injury's, flying indoors.

    I've had barn cats that kill squirrel in the house near
    him, and for the most part the kitties are afraid oh him.

    My parrot taught my mothers two Siamese to stay clear of him and leave
    him alone too! She had been worried initially that the cats would
    kill him :)

    One thing for sure, a parrot can end up out living it's owner.

    Really cool friends though, if you pay attention to them.

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  • From lucretia@florence.it@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sat Jan 13 08:14:28 2024
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 21:03:20 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    On 1/12/2024 6:37 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 19:09:23 -0400, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 08:04:54 +1100, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 14:34:39 -0400, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 03:18:50 +1100, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    Does one still stick birds in cages in this day and age? And has one >>>>>> found out what the purpose of this practice is?

    I had a parrot as a child, he liked to be in his cage at night but the >>>>> rest of the time he came and went. My father clipped his wings a
    little so he stayed in our trees. He had obviously been with a family >>>>> at some stage who had a newborn and he would cry when he saw a child, >>>>> I remember one small kid being terribly distressed by it, we couldn't >>>>> convince him nothing was wrong.

    He did have to be shut in his cage when there were visitors as he
    liked to sample their drinks.

    We had a parrot too. He could do the sound of our toilet flushing and
    he could do my laugh (no, that didn't sound the same). But when you
    think about it, it's a terribly cruel thing to do. Get a bird that
    should fly around in the Amazon rain forest and put it in a cage for
    decades, why?

    I believe he enjoyed his life and perhaps in the end he had less
    worries than a free bird in the Amazon.

    Nah.


    That begs the question, should we have any pets? Dog and cats? Fish?
    Is it better to be well fed in a human home or to be prey for another
    animal in the wild?

    Well who knows what they think? Maybe they rate their owners, think
    their owners are stupid, maybe they are just glad the owners supply
    the food etc.

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Jan 13 13:40:17 2024
    On 2024-01-12, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    We had a parrot too. He could do the sound of our toilet flushing and
    he could do my laugh (no, that didn't sound the same). But when you
    think about it, it's a terribly cruel thing to do. Get a bird that
    should fly around in the Amazon rain forest and put it in a cage for
    decades, why?


    To let them live an easy life, keep them away from harpy eagles and know they'll outlive you.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Sat Jan 13 09:39:20 2024
    On 2024-01-13 7:14 a.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 21:03:20 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    That begs the question, should we have any pets? Dog and cats? Fish?
    Is it better to be well fed in a human home or to be prey for another
    animal in the wild?

    Well who knows what they think? Maybe they rate their owners, think
    their owners are stupid, maybe they are just glad the owners supply
    the food etc.

    One of the coolest pets I remember from my childhood was my neighbour's
    crow. It was not caged and not even allowed in the house. He was simply domesticated and hung around their house for food and companionship. He
    also spent a lot of time hanging around our house and my mother was not thrilled that he used to sit on the sill of my bedroom window because he
    always crapped when he was there, so it either landed on the sill, on
    the patio below or on the wall.

    The crow used to come with my on my paper route. After a few days he
    learned the route and would fly ahead and wait for me at the next house. Unfortunately met is demise on an electrical line. It was shame to lose
    him.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Sqwertz on Sat Jan 13 09:31:37 2024
    On 2024-01-13 5:25 a.m., Sqwertz wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 10:54:00 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

    I had no idea there were so many careless pet
    owners in the Beaufort area.

    And in other neighborhoods, people who don't lock their car doors
    with their laptops inside. Even though they read about other
    people's cars getting ransacked and stuff stolen at least weekly.


    My wife has been known to leave a purse in plain sight in the car when
    she goes with her walking groups. She takes a second on with her wallet.
    What a fool I am to suggest that someone would break into a locked car
    to steal an empty purse. She rarely locks the car in our driveway. I
    haven't given up entirely on telling her. In fact, I frequently check
    her car doors when I come home or when I go out and I have to tell her
    again to lock it. It is not just self protection. I don't want to make
    it easy for the low life types who roam around at night stealing stuff
    from cars.



    Stupid people don't realize how stupid they are and always insist
    they're smarter than everyone else.


    I can't say that I am strongly opposed to vigilante justice to deal with
    the people stealing from cars but I am not terribly sympathetic to
    people who leave valuable and important items in cars, especially when
    they do not lock them. They are naive not to realize that there are
    people out there who are actively looking for unlocked cars to steal from.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat Jan 13 10:34:34 2024
    On 1/13/2024 9:31 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-01-13 5:25 a.m., Sqwertz wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 10:54:00 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

    I had no idea there were so many careless pet
    owners in the Beaufort area.

    And in other neighborhoods, people who don't lock their car doors
    with their laptops inside. Even though they read about other
    people's cars getting ransacked and stuff stolen at least weekly.


     My wife has been known to leave a purse in plain sight in the car when
    she goes with her walking groups. She takes a second on with her wallet.
    What a fool I am to suggest that someone would break into a locked car
    to steal an empty purse. She rarely locks the car in our driveway. I
    haven't given up entirely on telling her.  In fact, I frequently check
    her car doors when I come home or when I go out and I have to tell her
    again to lock it. It is not just self protection. I don't want to make
    it easy for the low life types who roam around at night stealing stuff
    from cars.



    Stupid people don't realize how stupid they are and always insist
    they're smarter than everyone else.


    I can't say that I am strongly opposed to vigilante justice to deal with
    the people stealing from cars but I am not terribly sympathetic to
    people who leave valuable and important items in cars, especially when
    they do not lock them. They are naive not to realize that there are
    people out there who are actively looking for unlocked cars to steal from.


    Rarely lock my car. Only thing of value is a part box of Tic Tacs.
    Twice, locked cars parked near me were damaged Convertible top cut,
    window broken.

    Many guns are stolen from cars. How dumb to leave one in a car.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sat Jan 13 10:18:42 2024
    On 2024-01-12 9:03 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 1/12/2024 6:37 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 19:09:23 -0400, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    I believe he enjoyed his life and perhaps in the end he had less
    worries than a free bird in the Amazon.

    Nah.


    That begs the question, should we have any pets?  Dog and cats?  Fish?
    Is it better to be well fed in a human home or to be prey for another
    animal in the wild?


    https://www.google.ca/search?q=dead+parrot+sketch&btnK=Google+Search&sxsrf=ALeKk03YIr9n9T_5sFWyItoGS8dMb6tZYw%3A1620668729057&source=hp&ei=OXGZYI8Q0om2Bd_7pTA&iflsig=AINFCbYAAAAAYJl_SZp_oGf_SLRzmsnjod7EaqQtl3Ak&oq=photo+war+of+1812+veterans&gs_lcp=
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    AeACAAcwBiAHPF5IBBjkuMTcuMZgBAKABAaoBB2d3cy13aXqwAQo&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwjPkJC_1b_wAhXShK0KHd99CQYQ4dUDCAk&uact=5#btnK=Google%20Search&fpstate=ive&vld=cid:6500183c,vid:vZw35VUBdzo,st:0

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sat Jan 13 10:56:29 2024
    On 2024-01-13 10:34 a.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 1/13/2024 9:31 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

    I can't say that I am strongly opposed to vigilante justice to deal
    with the people stealing from cars but I am not terribly sympathetic
    to people who leave valuable and important items in cars, especially
    when they do not lock them. They are naive not to realize that there
    are people out there who are actively looking for unlocked cars to
    steal from.


    Rarely lock my car.  Only thing of value is a part box of Tic Tacs.
    Twice, locked cars parked near me were damaged  Convertible top cut,
    window broken.

    I can't believe the number of times I have read about laptops and
    similar items have been stolen from cars. It is also surprising to see
    how many people leave cash in the car. It is common for some people to
    leave coins for parking meters.

    Many guns are stolen from cars.  How dumb to leave one in a car.


    You'd get into a lot of trouble for that here. We have safe storage
    laws and it is extremely rare for people to get permits to carry
    handguns. There are lots of people here who own handguns but they can
    only be used a recognized ranges. Their handguns have to be stored at
    their residence and they have to be trigger logged and in a locked case
    or cabinet. Ammunition has to be stored elsewhere. If your handgun is
    stolen you are likely to be charged for unsafe storage.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat Jan 13 16:10:07 2024
    On 2024-01-13, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2024-01-13 5:25 a.m., Sqwertz wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 10:54:00 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

    I had no idea there were so many careless pet
    owners in the Beaufort area.

    And in other neighborhoods, people who don't lock their car doors
    with their laptops inside. Even though they read about other
    people's cars getting ransacked and stuff stolen at least weekly.


    My wife has been known to leave a purse in plain sight in the car when
    she goes with her walking groups. She takes a second on with her wallet.

    I often leave a purse in less-than-plain sight (black purse on a
    black floor mat). I usually put my wallet in my pocket.

    What a fool I am to suggest that someone would break into a locked car
    to steal an empty purse. She rarely locks the car in our driveway.

    We park our cars in the garage. I sometimes park in the driveway
    for a few hours. I don't lock it under those circumstances. If
    I leave it out overnight (as I did when my husband was hanging a
    deer on my side of the garage), I lock it.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From bob1@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Sat Jan 13 10:12:06 2024
    On 2024-01-09 13:41:55 +0000, BryanGSimmons said:

    This is what I posted to "Nextdoor."

    "To everyone: Folks often post here without bothering to pay attention
    to simple spelling and grammar. If your posts are of so little value
    to you that they are not worthy of writing at a middle school level,
    why should anyone else value your posts? If you want your opinions to
    be respected, write like reasonably intelligent grownups."

    It pissed off lots of people. Whatever else about most of the folks on
    this NG, you write like grownups, not morons. Kuthe should post to
    Nextdoor, and maybe when GoogleGroups cuts him off, he will.


    LOLOLOL

    You are the least eductated schlub here!! .. FULL BLOODED INBRED WHITE
    TRASH RU.

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  • From bob1@21:1/5 to Sqwertz on Sat Jan 13 10:15:58 2024
    On 2024-01-13 10:25:43 +0000, Sqwertz said:


    counterproductive.

    Stupid people don't realize how stupid they are and always insist
    they're smarter than everyone else.

    -sw

    Perfect description of Bryank Semens.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net on Sun Jan 14 05:46:46 2024
    On 13 Jan 2024 13:40:17 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
    <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 2024-01-12, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    We had a parrot too. He could do the sound of our toilet flushing and
    he could do my laugh (no, that didn't sound the same). But when you
    think about it, it's a terribly cruel thing to do. Get a bird that
    should fly around in the Amazon rain forest and put it in a cage for
    decades, why?


    To let them live an easy life, keep them away from harpy eagles and know >they'll outlive you.

    Would you like to live your life in a cage if that would make you live
    20 years longer?

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Sqwertz on Sat Jan 13 13:55:01 2024
    On 2024-01-13 5:25 a.m., Sqwertz wrote:


    Stupid people don't realize how stupid they are and always insist
    they're smarter than everyone else.



    That is a thing. It is called the Dunning-Kruger Effect. It has been researched and they found that stupid people don't know enough to know
    how stupid they are. People with lower abilities don't have the skills
    or knowledge to realize how little they know.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sun Jan 14 05:49:40 2024
    On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 10:34:34 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    On 1/13/2024 9:31 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

    I can't say that I am strongly opposed to vigilante justice to deal with
    the people stealing from cars but I am not terribly sympathetic to
    people who leave valuable and important items in cars, especially when
    they do not lock them. They are naive not to realize that there are
    people out there who are actively looking for unlocked cars to steal from. >>

    Rarely lock my car. Only thing of value is a part box of Tic Tacs.
    Twice, locked cars parked near me were damaged Convertible top cut,
    window broken.

    Sometimes the damage of the break-in is more than the cost of what was
    stolen. You won't have that issue.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to bob1@sympatico.com on Sun Jan 14 05:58:15 2024
    On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 10:12:06 -0700, bob1 <bob1@sympatico.com> wrote:

    On 2024-01-09 13:41:55 +0000, BryanGSimmons said:

    This is what I posted to "Nextdoor."

    "To everyone: Folks often post here without bothering to pay attention
    to simple spelling and grammar. If your posts are of so little value
    to you that they are not worthy of writing at a middle school level,
    why should anyone else value your posts? If you want your opinions to
    be respected, write like reasonably intelligent grownups."

    It pissed off lots of people. Whatever else about most of the folks on
    this NG, you write like grownups, not morons. Kuthe should post to
    Nextdoor, and maybe when GoogleGroups cuts him off, he will.

    LOLOLOL

    You are the least eductated schlub here!! .. FULL BLOODED INBRED WHITE
    TRASH RU.

    Good description but what's a ru?

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to adavid.smith@sympatico.ca on Sun Jan 14 05:50:23 2024
    On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 10:56:29 -0500, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-01-13 10:34 a.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 1/13/2024 9:31 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

    I can't say that I am strongly opposed to vigilante justice to deal
    with the people stealing from cars but I am not terribly sympathetic
    to people who leave valuable and important items in cars, especially
    when they do not lock them. They are naive not to realize that there
    are people out there who are actively looking for unlocked cars to
    steal from.

    Rarely lock my car.  Only thing of value is a part box of Tic Tacs.
    Twice, locked cars parked near me were damaged  Convertible top cut,
    window broken.

    I can't believe the number of times I have read about laptops and
    similar items have been stolen from cars. It is also surprising to see
    how many people leave cash in the car. It is common for some people to
    leave coins for parking meters.

    A coin for ALDI!

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to adavid.smith@sympatico.ca on Sun Jan 14 06:26:26 2024
    On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 13:55:01 -0500, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-01-13 5:25 a.m., Sqwertz wrote:


    Stupid people don't realize how stupid they are and always insist
    they're smarter than everyone else.



    That is a thing. It is called the Dunning-Kruger Effect. It has been >researched and they found that stupid people don't know enough to know
    how stupid they are. People with lower abilities don't have the skills
    or knowledge to realize how little they know.

    Do you know a lot, Dave?

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi123@hawaiiantel.net on Sun Jan 14 08:18:12 2024
    On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 13:02:38 -0800 (PST), dsi1
    <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

    On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 5:18:48 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-01-12 9:03 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 1/12/2024 6:37 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 19:09:23 -0400, lucr...@florence.it wrote:

    I believe he enjoyed his life and perhaps in the end he had less
    worries than a free bird in the Amazon.

    Nah.

    That begs the question, should we have any pets? Dog and cats? Fish?
    Is it better to be well fed in a human home or to be prey for another
    animal in the wild?
    https://www.google.ca/search?q=dead+parrot+sketch&btnK=Google+Search&sxsrf=ALeKk03YIr9n9T_5sFWyItoGS8dMb6tZYw%3A1620668729057&source=hp&ei=OXGZYI8Q0om2Bd_7pTA&iflsig=AINFCbYAAAAAYJl_SZp_oGf_SLRzmsnjod7EaqQtl3Ak&oq=photo+war+of+1812+veterans&gs_lcp=
    Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBggAEBYQHjoHCCMQ6gIQJzoECCMQJzoLCC4QsQMQxwEQowI6BQgAELEDOgUILhCxAzoICAAQsQMQgwE6CAguEMcBEK8BOggILhCxAxCDAToCCC46CwguEMcBEK8BEJMCOgIIADoFCAAQyQM6BQgAEJIDOggIABCxAxDJAzoECAAQCjoICC4QxwEQowI6CAgAEBYQChAeOggIIRAWEB0QHjoFCCEQoAFQ1SdYqnpgk31oAnA
    AeACAAcwBiAHPF5IBBjkuMTcuMZgBAKABAaoBB2d3cy13aXqwAQo&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwjPkJC_1b_wAhXShK0KHd99CQYQ4dUDCAk&uact=5#btnK=Google%20Search&fpstate=ive&vld=cid:6500183c,vid:vZw35VUBdzo,st:0

    rfc loves long links. That metadata is giving out info on your past searches, >your computer and browser, and god knows what else. Yoose guys should
    know better.

    "Howzit, cuz! RFC stay likin' those long links, yeah? But those
    things, they tellin' all kine stories. They talkin' 'bout your past
    searches, your computer, your browser, even the gods know what else!
    Gotta watch out, eh? You guys, you know how it is. Gotta keep things
    on the down-low."

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Sun Jan 14 00:36:37 2024
    jmcquown wrote:

    On 1/12/2024 9:14 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-01-12 12:52 a.m., Sqwertz wrote:

    I like to straddle the line on being banned from Nextdoor. I used
    to post lots of ambiguous innuendos and most people didn't get
    them.  Nextdoor is very low-brow-IQ.  I don't post there much
    anymore.

    I tried that one or a similar app. I didn't last long. It was our neighbourhood. I live in a town that is an amalgamation of four
    villages and this one was for our village and supposedly for local
    events and information.  Most of the group members were from out
    of town. It wasn't so bad that some were from the other villages
    within the town but most were from other towns and cities, some of
    them an hour or more away.


    Dave, you can drill down on NextDoor to limit posts to specific
    neighbohoods. Maybe that feature wasn't there when you tried it.

    Still, NextDoor is pretty lame. In this area the posts primarily
    consist of people who "lost" their dog or cat. It's practically a
    daily occurrence. Conversely, someone's pet shows up on some
    doorstep and they're trying to find the owner. The pet sometimes has
    a collar but no tag, or a tag that doesn't give a clue who the owner
    is. (Someone even lost a $5000 Macaw! That's a parrot, for those
    who don't know. Good lord, clip the wing feathers so it can't fly
    away. It's painless and your $5000 bird won't fly out the door,
    which you shouldn't have left open in the first place.) I had no
    idea there were so many careless pet owners in the Beaufort area.

    NextDoor has also become increasingly commercial. Many of the posts
    are nothing but advertising.

    Although I have to say, NextDoor was helpful when the rice rat got
    into the laundry room through the broken dryer vent cap last year.
    My mention of it on NextDoor, along with the photo of a pile of
    acorns in the chewed through dryer hose, garnered an immediate
    response from a local handyman. Turns out he used to work for Dataw Security. He went to Lowes Hardware, picked up a new vent cap and
    hose. He cleaned up the acorn mess in the laundry room, installed
    the new hose and vent cap. He only charged me for the (very
    inexpensive) parts + $25 for the work. It saved me the time and
    trouble of having to drive across town to Lowes and do the repairs
    myself. :)

    Jill

    Next door is good for finding handymen and in a more diverse area, you
    get more diverse conversation.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi123@hawaiiantel.net on Sun Jan 14 12:13:30 2024
    On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 17:02:48 -0800 (PST), dsi1
    <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

    On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 11:18:24 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
    On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 13:02:38 -0800 (PST), dsi1
    <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

    On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 5:18:48 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-01-12 9:03 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 1/12/2024 6:37 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 19:09:23 -0400, lucr...@florence.it wrote:

    I believe he enjoyed his life and perhaps in the end he had less
    worries than a free bird in the Amazon.

    Nah.

    That begs the question, should we have any pets? Dog and cats? Fish?
    Is it better to be well fed in a human home or to be prey for another >> >> > animal in the wild?
    https://www.google.ca/search?q=dead+parrot+sketch&btnK=Google+Search&sxsrf=ALeKk03YIr9n9T_5sFWyItoGS8dMb6tZYw%3A1620668729057&source=hp&ei=OXGZYI8Q0om2Bd_7pTA&iflsig=AINFCbYAAAAAYJl_SZp_oGf_SLRzmsnjod7EaqQtl3Ak&oq=photo+war+of+1812+veterans&gs_lcp=
    Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBggAEBYQHjoHCCMQ6gIQJzoECCMQJzoLCC4QsQMQxwEQowI6BQgAELEDOgUILhCxAzoICAAQsQMQgwE6CAguEMcBEK8BOggILhCxAxCDAToCCC46CwguEMcBEK8BEJMCOgIIADoFCAAQyQM6BQgAEJIDOggIABCxAxDJAzoECAAQCjoICC4QxwEQowI6CAgAEBYQChAeOggIIRAWEB0QHjoFCCEQoAFQ1SdYqnpgk31oAnA
    AeACAAcwBiAHPF5IBBjkuMTcuMZgBAKABAaoBB2d3cy13aXqwAQo&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwjPkJC_1b_wAhXShK0KHd99CQYQ4dUDCAk&uact=5#btnK=Google%20Search&fpstate=ive&vld=cid:6500183c,vid:vZw35VUBdzo,st:0

    rfc loves long links. That metadata is giving out info on your past searches,
    your computer and browser, and god knows what else. Yoose guys should
    know better.
    "Howzit, cuz! RFC stay likin' those long links, yeah? But those
    things, they tellin' all kine stories. They talkin' 'bout your past
    searches, your computer, your browser, even the gods know what else!
    Gotta watch out, eh? You guys, you know how it is. Gotta keep things
    on the down-low."

    Yoose guys are even more clueless about computers than you are about food.

    Me and who else? Da odda haoles?

    That's pretty frightening.

    A coconut on you head, now dats frightening!

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sun Jan 14 01:16:21 2024
    Bruce wrote:

    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 21:03:20 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    On 1/12/2024 6:37 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 19:09:23 -0400, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    I believe he enjoyed his life and perhaps in the end he had less
    worries than a free bird in the Amazon.

    Nah.

    That begs the question, should we have any pets? Dog and cats?
    Fish? Is it better to be well fed in a human home or to be prey
    for another animal in the wild?

    Putting an animal in a cage is cruel. I don't think anybody can
    disagree with that. But if you go to a cat shelter, dog shelter, etc
    and you give an animal a good home, that's great, I think. Or what
    Ophelia did: go to a shelter and get a dog that may only have a few
    more years to live and give it a nice old age. That's wonderful. We
    may do that for one or two cats later in life. Don't get your animal
    from breeders or puppy mills.

    Ophelia was not unique here. In fact, no one here has adopted from
    other than rescue. I'm on number 7&8 now here. I adopt the ones no
    one will due to age or medical conditions. Everyone else with pets,
    Jill, Sheldon etc. did rescue pets.

    We here did not deserve your self centered lecture, especially when you
    have never adopted a rescue pet per no mention of one here.

    Cash, Daisy-chan, Aunti Mabel, Iowna, Prince, Mona, Mona's brother
    Luko, Jack.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to cshenk@virginia-beach.net on Sun Jan 14 12:26:44 2024
    On Sun, 14 Jan 2024 01:16:21 +0000, "cshenk"
    <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:

    Ophelia was not unique here. In fact, no one here has adopted from
    other than rescue. I'm on number 7&8 now here. I adopt the ones no
    one will due to age or medical conditions. Everyone else with pets,
    Jill, Sheldon etc. did rescue pets.

    If there are more than Ophelia who adopt old, possibly ailing pets to
    give them a good old age, then so much the better. What's your
    problem?

    We here did not deserve your self centered lecture

    There was nothing self-serving about it and I didn't say anybody here
    was doing anything wrong. If someone wants a pup or a kitten, that's
    good too, especially if you get it from an animal shelter or from
    someone who can't look after it anymore.

    , especially when you have never adopted a rescue pet per no mention of one here.

    What are you on about now? All our cats have been rescue pets. Please
    calm down a bit. You sound like Mother Superior after a bottle of
    whiskey.

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sun Jan 14 01:37:02 2024
    Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2024-01-12 10:09 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 1/12/2024 9:57 PM, Bruce wrote:

    Took your advice and set my goldfish free!.  They were so happy,
    they just bounced around with joy.  They are sleeping now.

    But if you go to a cat shelter, dog shelter, etc
    and you give an animal a good home, that's great, I think. Or what Ophelia did: go to a shelter and get a dog that may only have a
    few more years to live and give it a nice old age. That's
    wonderful. We may do that for one or two cats later in life.
    Don't get your animal from breeders or puppy mills.

    My last four dogs have been second hand. One was adopted from the
    Humane society at age 18 months. A little loving and some training
    and he became a great pet. The next was we got from a friend of a
    friend whose family circumstances made it impossible to care for the
    dog properly. He had been well trained and he quickly fit in here. He
    was loyal and loving, a great dog. The next one had originally been
    Hurricane Katrina and was being evicted from the trailer park in
    Florida where the family spent their winters. He was a handful but
    he eventually settled down and was a nice dog. The current one we
    took over from a couple who were no longer able to care for him. The
    groomer and dog sitter who knew him before think he is so much
    happier than we had been before. I didn't have to train him to come.
    He just loves to be around us.

    My granddaughter's in-laws do that.  We visited them a few weeks
    ago and they have a dog that is deaf and blind, but seems quite
    happy being there.  Couple of other rescue dogs too.

    Yes, I recall your Katrina gift. A tiny sliver of light at a terrible
    time. That was my Great Dane Prince, who's owner died of covid before
    there were vaccines. Prince graced our lives for 9 months before he
    passed of old age in his sleep.

    I look back and laugh when I remember Prince. Dang fellow was as tall
    as me! Talk about serious counter surfing!

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to cshenk on Sat Jan 13 21:20:56 2024
    On 2024-01-13 8:37 p.m., cshenk wrote:
    Dave Smith wrote:


    Yes, I recall your Katrina gift. A tiny sliver of light at a terrible
    time. That was my Great Dane Prince, who's owner died of covid before
    there were vaccines. Prince graced our lives for 9 months before he
    passed of old age in his sleep.

    I look back and laugh when I remember Prince. Dang fellow was as tall
    as me! Talk about serious counter surfing!


    Big dogs can be a challenge. They need to be well trained. That Malinois
    from Florida was dangerous with my wife. He pulled her off her feet many
    times. Her injuries included scrapped knees, a sprained foot and a
    broken finger. He was a very difficult to train. A long range big dog
    electric training collar was a godsend. He wasn't an exceptionally big
    dog but he was powerful and high energy.

    The first dog my wife and I had was a Bouvier des Flandres. You don't
    really notice how big your dog is getting when you see it every day, but
    one day when she was about 9 months old she was sitting beside the
    kitchen table and looking down at our food.

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 14 05:31:11 2024
    On 2024-01-13, bob1 wrote:

    On 2024-01-09 13:41:55 +0000, BryanGSimmons said:

    This is what I posted to "Nextdoor."

    You are the least eductated schlub here!!
    .. FULL BLOODED INBRED WHITE TRASH RU.

    When I got my 'NextDoor' invitation in the mail,
    I signed up my dog, 'just in case', what with
    Internet identity theft.

    But now, I forgot the password.

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Mon Jan 15 17:48:12 2024
    Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2024-01-13 8:37 p.m., cshenk wrote:
    Dave Smith wrote:


    Yes, I recall your Katrina gift. A tiny sliver of light at a
    terrible time. That was my Great Dane Prince, who's owner died of
    covid before there were vaccines. Prince graced our lives for 9
    months before he passed of old age in his sleep.

    I look back and laugh when I remember Prince. Dang fellow was as
    tall as me! Talk about serious counter surfing!


    Big dogs can be a challenge. They need to be well trained. That
    Malinois from Florida was dangerous with my wife. He pulled her off
    her feet many times. Her injuries included scrapped knees, a sprained
    foot and a broken finger. He was a very difficult to train. A long
    range big dog electric training collar was a godsend. He wasn't an exceptionally big dog but he was powerful and high energy.

    Fortunately Prince was well trained. We'd watched him a couple of days
    a week for Josh, so by the time he needed a new home, Josh left him to
    us.

    The first dog my wife and I had was a Bouvier des Flandres. You don't
    really notice how big your dog is getting when you see it every day,
    but one day when she was about 9 months old she was sitting beside
    the kitchen table and looking down at our food.

    Lol! I still have the moving van strap we used on the fridge. His one
    issue was to get the munchies at night when we were asleep so that
    stopped him.

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