• Re: Japanese show "Iron Chef" shown on Food Network in excellent dub

    From Bruce@21:1/5 to amanda61893@gmail.com on Tue Jan 9 09:09:36 2024
    On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 12:55:17 -0800 (PST), Twitchy Witchy
    <amanda61893@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 12:55:33 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
    On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 6:06:40 AM UTC-10, Twitchy Witchy wrote: >> > On Fri

    I'm so glad I found this, it was like reading a time capsule :) and the dubbing still hold up in 2023, i actually found this post because i was trying to look up how the dubbing was done, it's so natural, nothing of it's quality has been done before
    or since.
    I haven't watched Iron Chef in quite a while but it was a groundbreaking show that shocked America and changed the direction of how cooking shows were presented. The idea of ditching the subtitles in favoring of sports style color commentary made a
    lot of sense and offered a lot of freedom in terms of scripting. Iron Chef changed everything and these days, we can barely remember how things were in the past.

    What nonsense. I liked Iron Chef, but I don't see the slightest
    influence of it in current cooking shows.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to amanda61893@gmail.com on Tue Jan 9 09:10:32 2024
    On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 13:02:47 -0800 (PST), Twitchy Witchy
    <amanda61893@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 2:07:23 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Oct 2023 09:55:28 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
    <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

    On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 6:06:40 AM UTC-10, Twitchy Witchy wrote: >> >> On Fri

    I'm so glad I found this, it was like reading a time capsule :) and the dubbing still hold up in 2023, i actually found this post because i was trying to look up how the dubbing was done, it's so natural, nothing of it's quality has been done
    before or since.

    I haven't watched Iron Chef in quite a while but it was a groundbreaking show that shocked America and changed the direction of how cooking shows were presented. The idea of ditching the subtitles in favoring of sports style color commentary made a
    lot of sense and offered a lot of freedom in terms of scripting. Iron Chef changed everything and these days, we can barely remember how things were in the past.
    It was a fun program, but it didn't really change much. I remember a
    lot of subservient Japanese chefs who, when "interviewed", never
    uttered more than "I'll do my best". And Japanese women in the jury
    who all looked the same and had the same little mannerisms and the
    same little giggles with a hand in front of their mouth.
    It's a respect thing in their culture. This show was huge for the cooking world and introduced Japanese and Chinese cooking to huge amounts of people that otherwise may not have ever experienced it. It's good to learn about other cultures and in their
    culture you show respect and self discipline. And I gotta say the women giggling covering their face thing while on television is kinda all over the world regardless of culture especially before the 2000s, Japanese women are just known worldwide as
    polite and restrained and thoughtful. In their culture, you think about what you want to say and when you say something it has value and adds to the conversation, I know the people of Finland and many other Nordic countries are like that as well. Don't
    speak much but when they do talk it's important.

    lol, ok

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to bruce2bowser@gmail.com on Tue Jan 9 09:11:28 2024
    On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 14:05:35 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
    <bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 1:02:51 PM UTC-8, Twitchy Witchy wrote:
    On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 2:07:23 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Oct 2023 09:55:28 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
    <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

    On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 6:06:40 AM UTC-10, Twitchy Witchy wrote:
    On Fri

    I'm so glad I found this, it was like reading a time capsule :) and the dubbing still hold up in 2023, i actually found this post because i was trying to look up how the dubbing was done, it's so natural, nothing of it's quality has been done
    before or since.

    I haven't watched Iron Chef in quite a while but it was a groundbreaking show that shocked America and changed the direction of how cooking shows were presented. The idea of ditching the subtitles in favoring of sports style color commentary made a
    lot of sense and offered a lot of freedom in terms of scripting. Iron Chef changed everything and these days, we can barely remember how things were in the past.
    It was a fun program, but it didn't really change much. I remember a
    lot of subservient Japanese chefs who, when "interviewed", never
    uttered more than "I'll do my best". And Japanese women in the jury
    who all looked the same and had the same little mannerisms and the
    same little giggles with a hand in front of their mouth.
    It's a respect thing in their culture. This show was huge for the cooking world and introduced Japanese and Chinese cooking to huge amounts of people that otherwise may not have ever experienced it. It's good to learn about other cultures and in their
    culture you show respect and self discipline. And I gotta say the women giggling covering their face thing while on television is kinda all over the world regardless of culture especially before the 2000s, Japanese women are just known worldwide as
    polite and restrained and thoughtful. In their culture, you think about what you want to say and when you say something it has value and adds to the conversation, I know the people of Finland and many other Nordic countries are like that as well. Don't
    speak much but when they do talk it's important.

    Time is sometimes irrespective of good shows (especially ones in color).

    The ones in black and white are silent, so that's really boring.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Mon Jan 8 17:49:16 2024
    On 1/8/2024 5:43 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-01-08, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 12:55:17 -0800 (PST), Twitchy Witchy
    <amanda61893@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 12:55:33 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
    On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 6:06:40 AM UTC-10, Twitchy Witchy wrote:
    On Fri

    I'm so glad I found this, it was like reading a time capsule :) and the dubbing still hold up in 2023, i actually found this post because i was trying to look up how the dubbing was done, it's so natural, nothing of it's quality has been done
    before or since.
    I haven't watched Iron Chef in quite a while but it was a groundbreaking show that shocked America and changed the direction of how cooking shows were presented. The idea of ditching the subtitles in favoring of sports style color commentary made a
    lot of sense and offered a lot of freedom in terms of scripting. Iron Chef changed everything and these days, we can barely remember how things were in the past.

    What nonsense. I liked Iron Chef, but I don't see the slightest
    influence of it in current cooking shows.

    The Food Network in the U.S. is nearly wall-to-wall competition shows
    these days. It's challenging to find a show that demonstrates how to cook.


    Ten years ago we used to watch at least one show a night. Have not
    watched it at all in more than five years.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Bruce on Mon Jan 8 22:43:24 2024
    On 2024-01-08, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 12:55:17 -0800 (PST), Twitchy Witchy
    <amanda61893@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 12:55:33 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
    On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 6:06:40 AM UTC-10, Twitchy Witchy wrote: >>> > On Fri

    I'm so glad I found this, it was like reading a time capsule :) and the dubbing still hold up in 2023, i actually found this post because i was trying to look up how the dubbing was done, it's so natural, nothing of it's quality has been done
    before or since.
    I haven't watched Iron Chef in quite a while but it was a groundbreaking show that shocked America and changed the direction of how cooking shows were presented. The idea of ditching the subtitles in favoring of sports style color commentary made a
    lot of sense and offered a lot of freedom in terms of scripting. Iron Chef changed everything and these days, we can barely remember how things were in the past.

    What nonsense. I liked Iron Chef, but I don't see the slightest
    influence of it in current cooking shows.

    The Food Network in the U.S. is nearly wall-to-wall competition shows
    these days. It's challenging to find a show that demonstrates how to cook.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Mon Jan 8 16:04:21 2024
    On 2024-01-08 3:43 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-01-08, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 12:55:17 -0800 (PST), Twitchy Witchy
    <amanda61893@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 12:55:33 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
    On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 6:06:40 AM UTC-10, Twitchy Witchy wrote:
    On Fri

    I'm so glad I found this, it was like reading a time capsule :) and the dubbing still hold up in 2023, i actually found this post because i was trying to look up how the dubbing was done, it's so natural, nothing of it's quality has been done
    before or since.
    I haven't watched Iron Chef in quite a while but it was a groundbreaking show that shocked America and changed the direction of how cooking shows were presented. The idea of ditching the subtitles in favoring of sports style color commentary made a
    lot of sense and offered a lot of freedom in terms of scripting. Iron Chef changed everything and these days, we can barely remember how things were in the past.

    What nonsense. I liked Iron Chef, but I don't see the slightest
    influence of it in current cooking shows.

    The Food Network in the U.S. is nearly wall-to-wall competition shows
    these days. It's challenging to find a show that demonstrates how to cook.

    The only competition show worth watching is the British Bake-off.
    No high drama and there's a sense of co-operation among the contestants.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Graham on Mon Jan 8 18:40:42 2024
    On 2024-01-08 6:04 p.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2024-01-08 3:43 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-01-08, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    What nonsense. I liked Iron Chef, but I don't see the slightest
    influence of it in current cooking shows.

    The Food Network in the U.S. is nearly wall-to-wall competition shows
    these days.  It's challenging to find a show that demonstrates how to
    cook.

    The only competition show worth watching is the British Bake-off.
    No high drama and there's a sense of co-operation among the contestants.


    I hate those cooking competition shows. They are little more than
    "reality" shows. That means that they go out of their way to find
    flamboyant characters and they are a little hard to bear.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to hamilton@invalid.com on Tue Jan 9 10:41:41 2024
    On Mon, 08 Jan 2024 22:43:24 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
    <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2024-01-08, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 12:55:17 -0800 (PST), Twitchy Witchy >><amanda61893@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 12:55:33 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
    On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 6:06:40 AM UTC-10, Twitchy Witchy wrote:
    On Fri

    I'm so glad I found this, it was like reading a time capsule :) and the dubbing still hold up in 2023, i actually found this post because i was trying to look up how the dubbing was done, it's so natural, nothing of it's quality has been done
    before or since.
    I haven't watched Iron Chef in quite a while but it was a groundbreaking show that shocked America and changed the direction of how cooking shows were presented. The idea of ditching the subtitles in favoring of sports style color commentary made a
    lot of sense and offered a lot of freedom in terms of scripting. Iron Chef changed everything and these days, we can barely remember how things were in the past.

    What nonsense. I liked Iron Chef, but I don't see the slightest
    influence of it in current cooking shows.

    The Food Network in the U.S. is nearly wall-to-wall competition shows
    these days. It's challenging to find a show that demonstrates how to cook.

    Ah, I never see competition shows here. It's all individuals showing
    how they cook, whether international food or specific ethnicities.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to adavid.smith@sympatico.ca on Tue Jan 9 10:49:33 2024
    On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 18:40:42 -0500, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-01-08 6:04 p.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2024-01-08 3:43 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-01-08, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    What nonsense. I liked Iron Chef, but I don't see the slightest
    influence of it in current cooking shows.

    The Food Network in the U.S. is nearly wall-to-wall competition shows
    these days.  It's challenging to find a show that demonstrates how to
    cook.

    The only competition show worth watching is the British Bake-off.
    No high drama and there's a sense of co-operation among the contestants.


    I hate those cooking competition shows. They are little more than
    "reality" shows. That means that they go out of their way to find
    flamboyant characters and they are a little hard to bear.

    They're also always one big setup, at least here. Ratings is all that
    matters.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 9 10:43:00 2024
    On Tue, 09 Jan 2024 10:41:41 +1100, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 08 Jan 2024 22:43:24 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
    <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2024-01-08, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 12:55:17 -0800 (PST), Twitchy Witchy >>><amanda61893@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 12:55:33 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
    On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 6:06:40 AM UTC-10, Twitchy Witchy wrote:
    On Fri

    I'm so glad I found this, it was like reading a time capsule :) and the dubbing still hold up in 2023, i actually found this post because i was trying to look up how the dubbing was done, it's so natural, nothing of it's quality has been done
    before or since.
    I haven't watched Iron Chef in quite a while but it was a groundbreaking show that shocked America and changed the direction of how cooking shows were presented. The idea of ditching the subtitles in favoring of sports style color commentary made a
    lot of sense and offered a lot of freedom in terms of scripting. Iron Chef changed everything and these days, we can barely remember how things were in the past.

    What nonsense. I liked Iron Chef, but I don't see the slightest
    influence of it in current cooking shows.

    The Food Network in the U.S. is nearly wall-to-wall competition shows
    these days. It's challenging to find a show that demonstrates how to cook. >>
    Ah, I never see competition shows here. It's all individuals showing
    how they cook, whether international food or specific ethnicities.

    Wait, there's Master Chef. It's not like Iron Chef and it's also
    totally fake. We haven't watched it for ten years.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Graham on Tue Jan 9 10:08:32 2024
    On 2024-01-08, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
    On 2024-01-08 3:43 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-01-08, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 12:55:17 -0800 (PST), Twitchy Witchy
    <amanda61893@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 12:55:33 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
    On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 6:06:40 AM UTC-10, Twitchy Witchy wrote:
    On Fri

    I'm so glad I found this, it was like reading a time capsule :) and the dubbing still hold up in 2023, i actually found this post because i was trying to look up how the dubbing was done, it's so natural, nothing of it's quality has been done
    before or since.
    I haven't watched Iron Chef in quite a while but it was a groundbreaking show that shocked America and changed the direction of how cooking shows were presented. The idea of ditching the subtitles in favoring of sports style color commentary made a
    lot of sense and offered a lot of freedom in terms of scripting. Iron Chef changed everything and these days, we can barely remember how things were in the past.

    What nonsense. I liked Iron Chef, but I don't see the slightest
    influence of it in current cooking shows.

    The Food Network in the U.S. is nearly wall-to-wall competition shows
    these days. It's challenging to find a show that demonstrates how to cook. >>
    The only competition show worth watching is the British Bake-off.
    No high drama and there's a sense of co-operation among the contestants.

    I like "Chopped", for the judges. I also like "Chopped After Hours",
    in which the judges cook, but don't formally compete. A pity it has so
    few episodes.

    I watched a couple of episodes of British Bake-off, but I'm not that
    interested in baking so it didn't grab me.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to bruce bowser on Tue Jan 9 22:37:53 2024
    On 2024-01-09, bruce bowser wrote:

    On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 2:08:39 AM UTC-8, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    I like "Chopped", for the judges. [...]
    Chopped After Hours [...] British Bake-off,

    Wow weee. I never saw any of those shows.

    I saw "Chopped" but mine was about modifying motorcycles.

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