Michael Trew wrote:
On 1/6/2024 5:23 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2024-01-06, Dave Smith<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Brussels sprouts are one of those vegetables that develop a nasty
taste when over cooked and IMO cooking them until they are tender
all the way through if overcooking. I boil them until there is
still a slight crunch in the middle. They are delicious that way.
Cook them until they are completely soft and they are nasty.
Dry heat. No boiling. Roast, grill, fry, air-fry. Everything
in the cabbage family likes dry heat.
You don't like cabbage in vegetable soup? I'm not opposed to
dry-roasting cabbage, but maybe I've been doing it wrong. It's
always cooked in a pot here... Usually with onions, potatoes, and
sometimes kielbasa.
Relax, cabbage family is happiest steamed but they also take well to
other methods except roasting is normally a really ungood fail. It's
kinda like dehydrated cabbage.
On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 12:57:44 PM UTC-6, Graham wrote:
For me, the roasting/grilling did nothing for those bitter cabbages.
On 2024-01-06 11:35 a.m., itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
I don't see the attraction of charred greens. They were very trendy
On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 4:23:17 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >>>>
Dry heat. No boiling. Roast, grill, fry, air-fry. EverythingI've also had them grilled with a light char, but that sulfur comes shining >>> through. I don't get this taste with regular green cabbage of which I love. >>>
in the cabbage family likes dry heat.
Cindy Hamilton
in restos pre-covid. It seems that the fashion is re-emerging.
On 1/6/2024 1:46 PM, cshenk wrote:
Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 10:43:14 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2024-01-06 5:23 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:taste >>> when over cooked and IMO cooking them until they are tender
On 2024-01-06, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Brussels sprouts are one of those vegetables that develop a nasty
all the way >>> through if overcooking. I boil them until there is
still a slight crunch >>> in the middle. They are delicious that way.
Cook them until they are >>> completely soft and they are nasty.
Dry heat. No boiling. Roast, grill, fry, air-fry. Everything
in the cabbage family likes dry heat.
I have tried roasting them but didn't have much like. Boiled until
still a little crunchy works for me.
That's how they got their bad reputation with children.
I really like them. I don't like them at
all if they are cooked until soft. I have similar issues with
parsnip. I love them roasted but can't stand them boiled.
Yet you boil Brussels sprouts.
Bruce, still crunchy in center. Different thing going on from what you
are trying to say.
Bruce isn't trying to say anything, Carol. Just more shit-stirring. No
one in this thread said they like *boiled* (aka cooked to death)
brussels sprouts.
On 1/6/2024 4:48 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 12:57:44 PM UTC-6, Graham wrote:
For me, the roasting/grilling did nothing for those bitter cabbages.
On 2024-01-06 11:35 a.m., itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
I don't see the attraction of charred greens. They were very trendy
On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 4:23:17 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >>>>>
Dry heat. No boiling. Roast, grill, fry, air-fry. EverythingI've also had them grilled with a light char, but that sulfur comes shining
in the cabbage family likes dry heat.
Cindy Hamilton
through. I don't get this taste with regular green cabbage of which I love.
in restos pre-covid. It seems that the fashion is re-emerging.
So don't buy brussels sprouts. :)
On 2024-01-06, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
I cannot remember the last time I *boiled* brussels sprouts. They only
taste bitter to me if they are larger, older brussels sprouts. Then
again, Joan might not like them even if they were smaller. Not everyone
likes brussels sprouts.
One of the old posters here believed slicing the sprouts released the
poison and made them palatable. :)
We steam ours for ten to fifteen minutes whole, slice and coat with
butter. Salt and pepper to taste. I always peel off the outer leaves to
get down to the lighter green ones. I don't know if that's necessary.
In article <kvrm4bF1nk1U1@mid.individual.net>, firstname@lastname.oc.ku writes:
Roasted chicken drumsticks, cured in salt, pepper and raw sugar, then marinatedAnything cooking at your house tonight?
with lemon juice, soy sauce and mustard, tostones (fried green plantaines) and
probably a vegetable medley of roasted broccoli, zucchini and mushrooms
On 2024-01-06 1:27 p.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 10:43:14 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2024-01-06 5:23 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2024-01-06, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Brussels sprouts are one of those vegetables that develop
a nasty taste
when over cooked and IMO cooking them until they are
tender all the way
through if overcooking. I boil them until there is still a
slight crunch
in the middle. They are delicious that way. Cook them
until they are
completely soft and they are nasty.
Dry heat. No boiling. Roast, grill, fry, air-fry.
Everything
in the cabbage family likes dry heat.
I have tried roasting them but didn't have much like. Boiled
until still
a little crunchy works for me. I really like them. I don't
like them at
all if they are cooked until soft. I have similar issues
with parsnip.
I love them roasted but can't stand them boiled.
Microwave is perfect for brussels. I like parsnip roasted
too but
Julia Childs also had another useful way to cook them when
you have a
lot on the go. They really do take on a new flavour.
Julia Childs recipe
Puree of Parsnips Mellowed with Cream
A heavenly accompaniment to a roasted goose or duck, the
Thanksgiving
turkey or a loin of pork.
Puree a handful of boil-steamed parsnips. Blend them in the
top of a
double boiler (or pyrex pot in water) with a modest amount of
cream.
(1/2 to 2/3 cup for 4 cups of parsnips) and season to taste.
Cover and cook, stirring occasionally, for 15-20minuted –
the puree
will develop a new and delicious character as it warms with
the cream.
Correct seasoning again before serving.
They really are great and you can keep them there until ready to
serve.
Sounds interesting. I had a parsnip puree in a restaurant a few
years ago. It was pretty good.
On 2024-01-06, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
I cannot remember the last time I *boiled* brussels sprouts. They only
taste bitter to me if they are larger, older brussels sprouts. Then
again, Joan might not like them even if they were smaller. Not everyone
likes brussels sprouts.
One of the old posters here believed slicing the sprouts released the
poison and made them palatable. :)
We steam ours for ten to fifteen minutes whole, slice and coat with
butter. Salt and pepper to taste. I always peel off the outer leaves to
get down to the lighter green ones. I don't know if that's necessary.
leo
On 1/6/2024 4:40 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
On 2024-01-06, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
I cannot remember the last time I *boiled* brussels sprouts. They only
taste bitter to me if they are larger, older brussels sprouts. Then
again, Joan might not like them even if they were smaller. Not everyone >>> likes brussels sprouts.
One of the old posters here believed slicing the sprouts released the
poison and made them palatable. :)
Poison?
We steam ours for ten to fifteen minutes whole, slice and coat withWhen cooking them whole, I do like my mother did. Remove the lower
butter. Salt and pepper to taste. I always peel off the outer leaves to
get down to the lighter green ones. I don't know if that's necessary.
outer leaves, slice off the very bottom of the stem then cut an X in
stem. Steam until just tender. Butter, S&P is a given. :)
On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 5:19:28 PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote:
Yes, several times over the years hoping a different way of cooking them would have me liking them.
itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
Did you try them again after you first found them repulsive?For me, the roasting/grilling did nothing for those bitter cabbages.
It must be as cilantro is one of those herbs that I can't abide.
It also could be like the classic cilantro thing, and you just
simply can't stand them. Like me, when it comes to pineapple.
Oh, so true!
We are all different.
Everybody's different.
itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 5:19:28 PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote: >>>
Did you try them again after you first found them repulsive?Yes, several times over the years hoping a different way of cooking them
would have me liking them.
It must be as cilantro is one of those herbs that I can't abide.
It also could be like the classic cilantro thing, and you just
simply can't stand them. Like me, when it comes to pineapple.
Oh, so true!
We are all different.
Sadly, I will never enjoy pineapple, and you'll never enjoy
brussel sprouts. A damn shame.
But the good news is that we will never make this a religion
and resort to armed conflict.
I wish the rest of the world could quit fighting, now and forever.
On 1/6/2024 4:48 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 12:57:44 PM UTC-6, Graham
wrote:
For me, the roasting/grilling did nothing for those bitter
On 2024-01-06 11:35 a.m., itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
I don't see the attraction of charred greens. They were very
On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 4:23:17 AM UTC-6, Cindy
Hamilton wrote:
I've also had them grilled with a light char, but that
Dry heat. No boiling. Roast, grill, fry, air-fry. Everything
in the cabbage family likes dry heat.
Cindy Hamilton
sulfur comes shining
through. I don't get this taste with regular green cabbage
of which I love.
trendy
in restos pre-covid. It seems that the fashion is re-emerging.
cabbages.
So don't buy brussels sprouts. :)
Jill
On 1/6/2024 1:25 PM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 11:08:34 -0500, jmcquown
<j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:
On 1/5/2024 6:15 PM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 17:55:28 -0500, jmcquown
<j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:
On 1/5/2024 5:22 PM, Graham wrote:
On 2024-01-05 2:49 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
I'll be making another Spinach & Feta quiche.I'm thawing out some pork chops that will go in the air
I also plan to make brussels sprouts au gratin. I know
some of you
dislike those small cabbage-like vegetables but I love
them. For this
dish I cut off the tough ends and slice the brussels
sprouts in half.
I first steam them until just about tender. Then place
them in glass
baking dish. From there it's a similar treatment as
making potatoes
au gratin.
Prepare a bechamel sauce and add shredded gruyere
cheese; stir until
it's nicely incorporated. Pour the sauce over the
brussels sprouts
and top with buttered breadcrumbs. Bake until the
sauce is bubbly and
the crumbs are nicely browned on top.
Anything cooking at your house tonight?
Jill
fryer, possibly
with a mustard/panko coating.
The pork chops sound good but I'd have to cook those in
the oven as I do
not have an air fryer. Enjoy your dinner! :)
Jill
Couldn't do without an air fryer now (basically a more
practical form
of convection oven) I air fried a couple of chicken wings
and some
corn for tonight.
Your dinner sounds nice. My problem with an air fryer is
lack of
counterspace.
Jill
I don't keep it out on the counter, I keep it in the hall
closet.
I'm not being argumentative but I have a crockpot and after I
use it I have to store it in the laundry room. That's one
reason I don't use it more often. I rarely use my food
processor for the same reason. I really don't want another
small appliance I have to keep putting away in another room.
Jill
On 1/6/2024 1:53 PM, cshenk wrote:
jmcquown wrote:
On 1/5/2024 7:44 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
On 06/01/2024 00:18, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 3:49:19 PM UTC-6, jmcquownI find that the sulfur is only a problem, when they are
wrote:
Not a clue, but definitely no sulfur bombs. Why are
Anything cooking at your house tonight?
Jill
those bitter
cabbages so high in sulfur????
overcooked
- particularly if they are boiled.
I cannot remember the last time I boiled brussels sprouts.
They only
taste bitter to me if they are larger, older brussels
sprouts. Then
again, Joan might not like them even if they were smaller. Not
everyone likes brussels sprouts.
Jill
I think the term is 'par-boiled' right? Thats a light short
simmer if
I used the term right.
That certainly is a cooking term. It's not what I did with the
brussels sprouts.
Jill
On 2024-01-06 11:27 a.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
Puree a handful of boil-steamed parsnips. Blend them in the top of a
double boiler (or pyrex pot in water) with a modest amount of cream.
(1/2 to 2/3 cup for 4 cups of parsnips) and season to taste.
This looks great! saved!
Anything cooking at your house tonight?
On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:49:06 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
Anything cooking at your house tonight?
I can't remember what I had for dinner last night. But I remember
I had chili dogs for breakfast at 3:30AM which fucked up the renal
ultrasound 7.5 hours later. Several spots "obscured by intestinal
gasses".
On 6 Jan 2024 21:25:10 -0600, sqwertz wrote:
I had chili dogs for breakfast at 3:30AM which fucked
up the renal ultrasound 7.5 hours later. Several spots
"obscured by intestinal gasses".
God, Sqwertz has a new disease. Suicide by food.
On 2024-01-07, Bruce wrote:
On 6 Jan 2024 21:25:10 -0600, sqwertz wrote:
I had chili dogs for breakfast at 3:30AM which fucked
up the renal ultrasound 7.5 hours later. Several spots
"obscured by intestinal gasses".
God, Sqwertz has a new disease. Suicide by food.
Careful now there, Bruce.
Tantamount to a death wish.
Bryan would be proud.
On 2024-01-06, Graham wrote:
On 2024-01-06 11:27 a.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
Puree a handful of boil-steamed parsnips. Blend them in the top of a
double boiler (or pyrex pot in water) with a modest amount of cream.
(1/2 to 2/3 cup for 4 cups of parsnips) and season to taste.
This looks great! saved!
It's a bit skimpy on the details of the seasoning.
On 1/6/2024 1:25 PM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 11:08:34 -0500, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:
On 1/5/2024 6:15 PM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 17:55:28 -0500, jmcquown
<j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
On 1/5/2024 5:22 PM, Graham wrote:
On 2024-01-05 2:49 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
I'll be making another Spinach & Feta quiche.
I also plan to make brussels sprouts au gratin. I know
some of you dislike those small cabbage-like vegetables
but I love them. For this dish I cut off the tough ends
and slice the brussels sprouts in half. I first steam
them until just about tender. Then place them in glass
baking dish. From there it's a similar treatment as
making potatoes au gratin.
Prepare a bechamel sauce and add shredded gruyere cheese;
stir until it's nicely incorporated. Pour the sauce over
the brussels sprouts and top with buttered breadcrumbs.Â
Bake until the sauce is bubbly and the crumbs are nicely
browned on top.
Anything cooking at your house tonight?
JillI'm thawing out some pork chops that will go in the air
fryer, possibly with a mustard/panko coating.
The pork chops sound good but I'd have to cook those in the
oven as I do not have an air fryer. Enjoy your dinner! :)
Jill
Couldn't do without an air fryer now (basically a more
practical form of convection oven) I air fried a couple of
chicken wings and some corn for tonight.
Your dinner sounds nice. My problem with an air fryer is lack of counterspace.
Jill
I don't keep it out on the counter, I keep it in the hall closet.
I'm not being argumentative but I have a crockpot and after I use it
I have to store it in the laundry room. That's one reason I don't
use it more often. I rarely use my food processor for the same
reason. I really don't want another small appliance I have to keep
putting away in another room.
Jill
On 1/6/2024 1:46 PM, cshenk wrote:
Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 10:43:14 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2024-01-06 5:23 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2024-01-06, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
tender >>all the way >>> through if overcooking. I boil them untiltaste >>> when over cooked and IMO cooking them until they areBrussels sprouts are one of those vegetables that develop a
nasty
there is >>still a slight crunch >>> in the middle. They are
delicious that way. >>Cook them until they are >>> completely soft
and they are nasty.
Dry heat. No boiling. Roast, grill, fry, air-fry.
Everything in the cabbage family likes dry heat.
I have tried roasting them but didn't have much like. Boiled
until still a little crunchy works for me.
That's how they got their bad reputation with children.
I really like them. I don't like them at
all if they are cooked until soft. I have similar issues with
parsnip. I love them roasted but can't stand them boiled.
Yet you boil Brussels sprouts.
Bruce, still crunchy in center. Different thing going on from what
you are trying to say.
Bruce isn't trying to say anything, Carol. Just more shit-stirring.
No one in this thread said they like boiled (aka cooked to death)
brussels sprouts.
Jill
On 1/6/2024 1:44 PM, cshenk wrote:
Same here. Neither Don nor I like them roasted, A bit in the
steamer works best for us but simmered for a bit like Jill does
them works too.
I lightly steamed the brussels sprouts for the gratin I mentioned.
They finished cooking in the oven.
Jill
On 2024-01-06, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2024-01-06, Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
You don't like cabbage in vegetable soup?
Sure, a little bit of it. I blanch and freeze the cabbage, then
when I add a handful to soup, it's right at the end so it doesn't
overcook. If it's soft, it cooked too much.
There's a whole head of cabbage in this, simmered for about 40
minutes.
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jmcquown wrote:
On 1/6/2024 1:46 PM, cshenk wrote:
Bruce wrote:
Yet you boil Brussels sprouts.
Bruce, still crunchy in center. Different thing going on from what
you are trying to say.
Bruce isn't trying to say anything, Carol. Just more shit-stirring.
No one in this thread said they like boiled (aka cooked to death)
brussels sprouts.
Jill
Yup. I'm replying less often to his silly posts. I've noticed a lot
of his posts are spurring nasty replies. I'm not innocent on that but
he's best just not replied to much.
On 1/6/2024 1:53 PM, cshenk wrote:
jmcquown wrote:
On 1/5/2024 7:44 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
On 06/01/2024 00:18, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 3:49:19 PM UTC-6, jmcquown
wrote:
Anything cooking at your house tonight?
Jill
Not a clue, but definitely no sulfur bombs. Why are those
bitter cabbages so high in sulfur????
I find that the sulfur is only a problem, when they are
overcooked - particularly if they are boiled.
I cannot remember the last time I boiled brussels sprouts. They
only taste bitter to me if they are larger, older brussels
sprouts. Then again, Joan might not like them even if they were
smaller. Not everyone likes brussels sprouts.
Jill
I think the term is 'par-boiled' right? Thats a light short simmer
if I used the term right.
That certainly is a cooking term. It's not what I did with the
brussels sprouts.
Jill
jmcquown wrote:
On 1/6/2024 1:44 PM, cshenk wrote:
(snips made)
Same here. Neither Don nor I like them roasted, A bit in the
steamer works best for us but simmered for a bit like Jill does
them works too.
I lightly steamed the brussels sprouts for the gratin I mentioned.
They finished cooking in the oven.
Jill
I might try that one day. I tend to avoid the oven. Just a quirk from
the years in Japan with truely outrageous electrical rates. It was
easy to pay as much for electricity as rent, and rent was not cheap!
jmcquown wrote:
Bruce isn't trying to say anything, Carol. Just more shit-stirring.
No one in this thread said they like boiled (aka cooked to death)
brussels sprouts.
Jill
Yup. I'm replying less often to his silly posts. I've noticed a lot
of his posts are spurring nasty replies. I'm not innocent on that but
he's best just not replied to much.
He'll complain but that's his problem for so many attention grabbing
posts.
BTW, found out yesterday that Don has 'issues' with Steelhead trout!
Relates to a bad fishing trip. He likes Salmon though. Oh well, I
adore steelhead!
On 2024-01-07 2:32 p.m., cshenk wrote:
Yup. I'm replying less often to his silly posts. I've noticed a lot
of his posts are spurring nasty replies. I'm not innocent on that but
he's best just not replied to much.
He'll complain but that's his problem for so many attention grabbing
posts.
You can give him credit for his attention seeking behaviour and you can
take some credit for reinforcing it.
On 1/7/2024 2:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
I might try that one day. I tend to avoid the oven. Just a quirk from
the years in Japan with truely outrageous electrical rates. It was
easy to pay as much for electricity as rent, and rent was not cheap!
I'm glad my electric bill is not outrageous. I use the oven frequently (even in the summer).
On 07/01/2024 20:17, jmcquown wrote:
On 1/7/2024 2:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
My electric bill in Scotland has gone up outrageously. It's not just the >charge for each unit of electricity, but just the daily standing chargeI might try that one day. I tend to avoid the oven. Just a quirk from >>> the years in Japan with truely outrageous electrical rates. It was
easy to pay as much for electricity as rent, and rent was not cheap!
I'm glad my electric bill is not outrageous. I use the oven frequently
(even in the summer).
is now more than the total charge I paid a few years ago.
I have an electric oven, but the hob/cooktop is gas, the central heating
and hot water are oil, all the lighting is LED, and I don't leave lights
on in unoccupied areas. But the monthly bills continue to rise.
On 07/01/2024 20:17, jmcquown wrote:
On 1/7/2024 2:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
My electric bill in Scotland has gone up outrageously. It's not just the charge for each unit of electricity, but just the daily standing chargeI might try that one day. I tend to avoid the oven. Just a quirk from >>> the years in Japan with truely outrageous electrical rates. It was
easy to pay as much for electricity as rent, and rent was not cheap!
I'm glad my electric bill is not outrageous. I use the oven
frequently (even in the summer).
is now more than the total charge I paid a few years ago.
I have an electric oven, but the hob/cooktop is gas, the central heating
and hot water are oil, all the lighting is LED, and I don't leave lights
on in unoccupied areas. But the monthly bills continue to rise.
Air-fryers and combi microwaves have become increasingly popular among
my friends.
On 07/01/2024 20:17, jmcquown wrote:
On 1/7/2024 2:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
My electric bill in Scotland has gone up outrageously. It's not just the charge for each unit of electricity, but just the daily standing chargeI might try that one day. I tend to avoid the oven. Just a quirk from >>> the years in Japan with truely outrageous electrical rates. It was
easy to pay as much for electricity as rent, and rent was not cheap!
I'm glad my electric bill is not outrageous. I use the oven
frequently (even in the summer).
is now more than the total charge I paid a few years ago.
I have an electric oven, but the hob/cooktop is gas, the central heating
and hot water are oil, all the lighting is LED, and I don't leave lights
on in unoccupied areas. But the monthly bills continue to rise.
Air-fryers and combi microwaves have become increasingly popular among
my friends.
On 2024-01-07 3:37 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
On 07/01/2024 20:17, jmcquown wrote:
I hate to imagine. We had friends who lived in Scotland for a while inI'm glad my electric bill is not outrageous. I use the ovenMy electric bill in Scotland has gone up outrageously. It's not just
frequently (even in the summer).
the charge for each unit of electricity, but just the daily standing
charge is now more than the total charge I paid a few years ago.
I have an electric oven, but the hob/cooktop is gas, the central
heating and hot water are oil, all the lighting is LED, and I don't
leave lights on in unoccupied areas. But the monthly bills continue to
rise.
Air-fryers and combi microwaves have become increasingly popular among
my friends.
the 90s and there were shocked at the price of electricity.
On 1/7/2024 3:37 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
My electric bill in Scotland has gone up outrageously. It's not just
the charge for each unit of electricity, but just the daily standing
charge is now more than the total charge I paid a few years ago.
I have an electric oven, but the hob/cooktop is gas, the central
heating and hot water are oil, all the lighting is LED, and I don't
leave lights on in unoccupied areas. But the monthly bills continue to
rise.
Air-fryers and combi microwaves have become increasingly popular among
my friends.
I Googled and saw 27 pence/kWh or about .31 USD. Double what I pay if
that is accurate.
On Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 12:08:25 PM UTC-10, S Viemeister
wrote:
On 07/01/2024 21:39, Ed P wrote:
On 1/7/2024 3:37 PM, S Viemeister wrote:I live in the Highlands, on the north coast, and our bills are a
My electric bill in Scotland has gone up outrageously. It's not
just the charge for each unit of electricity, but just the
daily standing charge is now more than the total charge I paid
a few years ago.
I have an electric oven, but the hob/cooktop is gas, the
central heating and hot water are oil, all the lighting is LED,
and I don't leave lights on in unoccupied areas. But the
monthly bills continue to rise.
Air-fryers and combi microwaves have become increasingly
popular among my friends.
I Googled and saw 27 pence/kWh or about .31 USD. Double what I
pay if that is accurate.
bit higher (even though much of Scotland's electricity is produced
here!).
These are my current (heh) rates -
Standing charge 63.20p per day Unit rate 28.55p per Kilowatt hour
Today's exchange rate is 1.2716 USD to 1.00 GBP.
We've got the highest electricity rates in America but your figures
are truly impressive. Hopefully, you're using a notebook and not a
desktop computer. In your land, every little bit would be a
consideration.
On 2024-01-07, S Viemeister wrote:
My electric bill in Scotland has gone up outrageously.
It's not just the charge for each unit of electricity,
but just the daily standing charge is now
What is a 'standing charge'? Is it a monthly
billing fee regardless of energy quantity?
On 2024-01-07, S Viemeister wrote:
My electric bill in Scotland has gone up outrageously.
It's not just the charge for each unit of electricity,
but just the daily standing charge is now
What is a 'standing charge'? Is it a monthly
billing fee regardless of energy quantity?
My electric bill in Scotland has gone up outrageously.
It's not just the charge for each unit of electricity,
but just the daily standing charge is now
On 07/01/2024 20:17, jmcquown wrote:
On 1/7/2024 2:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
My electric bill in Scotland has gone up outrageously. It's not just the charge for each unit of electricity, but just the daily standing chargeI might try that one day. I tend to avoid the oven. Just a quirk from >>> the years in Japan with truely outrageous electrical rates. It was
easy to pay as much for electricity as rent, and rent was not cheap!
I'm glad my electric bill is not outrageous. I use the oven
frequently (even in the summer).
is now more than the total charge I paid a few years ago.
I have an electric oven, but the hob/cooktop is gas, the central heating
and hot water are oil, all the lighting is LED, and I don't leave lights
on in unoccupied areas. But the monthly bills continue to rise.
Air-fryers and combi microwaves have become increasingly popular among
my friends.
On 2024-01-07 1:37 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
On 07/01/2024 20:17, jmcquown wrote:On my last bill I paid C$41.53 for the electricity. That's for 447KWH at C$0.0929/KWH. But another C$71.86 for admin, delivery, transmission, distribution,"balance pool allocation",rate riders and local access fees.
On 1/7/2024 2:41 PM, cshenk wrote:My electric bill in Scotland has gone up outrageously. It's not just
I might try that one day. I tend to avoid the oven. Just a quirk from >>>> the years in Japan with truely outrageous electrical rates. It was
easy to pay as much for electricity as rent, and rent was not cheap!
I'm glad my electric bill is not outrageous. I use the oven
frequently (even in the summer).
the charge for each unit of electricity, but just the daily standing
charge is now more than the total charge I paid a few years ago.
I have an electric oven, but the hob/cooktop is gas, the central
heating and hot water are oil, all the lighting is LED, and I don't
leave lights on in unoccupied areas. But the monthly bills continue to
rise.
Air-fryers and combi microwaves have become increasingly popular among
my friends.
I might try that one day. I tend to avoid the oven. Just a quirk
from the years in Japan with truely outrageous electrical rates.
It was easy to pay as much for electricity as rent, and rent was
not cheap!
I'm glad my electric bill is not outrageous. I use the oven
frequently (even in the summer).
Jill
Yes. The first 1,200$ bill for a month electric had us make immediate shifts.
On 2024-01-07 2:32 p.m., cshenk wrote:
BTW, found out yesterday that Don has 'issues' with Steelhead trout! Relates to a bad fishing trip. He likes Salmon though. Oh well, I
adore steelhead!
That is unfortunate. We can get fresh steelhead frequently. We both
like trout and salmon but will opt for steelhead when it is available.
On 1/7/2024 2:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
jmcquown wrote:
On 1/6/2024 1:44 PM, cshenk wrote:
(snips made)
Same here. Neither Don nor I like them roasted, A bit in the
steamer works best for us but simmered for a bit like Jill does
them works too.
I lightly steamed the brussels sprouts for the gratin I mentioned.
They finished cooking in the oven.
Jill
I might try that one day. I tend to avoid the oven. Just a quirk
from the years in Japan with truely outrageous electrical rates.
It was easy to pay as much for electricity as rent, and rent was
not cheap!
I'm glad my electric bill is not outrageous. I use the oven
frequently (even in the summer).
Jill
On 07/01/2024 20:17, jmcquown wrote:
On 1/7/2024 2:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
I might try that one day. I tend to avoid the oven. Just a
quirk from the years in Japan with truely outrageous electrical
rates. It was easy to pay as much for electricity as rent, and
rent was not cheap!
I'm glad my electric bill is not outrageous. I use the oven
frequently (even in the summer).
My electric bill in Scotland has gone up outrageously. It's not just
the charge for each unit of electricity, but just the daily standing
charge is now more than the total charge I paid a few years ago.
I have an electric oven, but the hob/cooktop is gas, the central
heating and hot water are oil, all the lighting is LED, and I don't
leave lights on in unoccupied areas. But the monthly bills continue
to rise.
Air-fryers and combi microwaves have become increasingly popular
among my friends.
jmcquown wrote:
On 1/7/2024 2:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
I might try that one day. I tend to avoid the oven. Just a quirk
from the years in Japan with truely outrageous electrical rates.
It was easy to pay as much for electricity as rent, and rent was
not cheap!
I'm glad my electric bill is not outrageous. I use the oven
frequently (even in the summer).
Jill
Yes. The first 1,200$ bill for a month electric had us make immediate >shifts.
Yes. The first 1,200$ bill for a month electric had us make immediate shifts.
jmcquown wrote:
On 1/7/2024 2:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
jmcquown wrote:
On 1/6/2024 1:44 PM, cshenk wrote:
(snips made)
Same here. Neither Don nor I like them roasted, A bit in the
steamer works best for us but simmered for a bit like Jill does
them works too.
I lightly steamed the brussels sprouts for the gratin I mentioned.
They finished cooking in the oven.
Jill
I might try that one day. I tend to avoid the oven. Just a quirk
from the years in Japan with truely outrageous electrical rates.
It was easy to pay as much for electricity as rent, and rent was
not cheap!
I'm glad my electric bill is not outrageous. I use the oven
frequently (even in the summer).
Jill
Yes. The first 1,200$ bill for a month electric had us make immediate shifts.
On 1/7/2024 11:35 PM, cshenk wrote:
I might try that one day. I tend to avoid the oven. Just a quirk
from the years in Japan with truely outrageous electrical rates.
It was easy to pay as much for electricity as rent, and rent was
not cheap!
I'm glad my electric bill is not outrageous. I use the oven
frequently (even in the summer).
Jill
Yes. The first 1,200$ bill for a month electric had us make immediate
shifts.
That is what I spent for 2023. Actually, $1170 for the year. What do
you do to use that much? Heat?  6000 sq ft house?
On 1/7/2024 11:35 PM, cshenk wrote:
I'm glad my electric bill is not outrageous. I use the oven
frequently (even in the summer).
Jill
Yes. The first 1,200$ bill for a month electric had us make immediate
shifts.
Wow. That's Japan for ya. ;) Even with the AC running in the summer
the monthly bill is rarely over $160/month. Usually a lot less than that.
On 1/7/2024 11:51 PM, Ed P wrote:
On 1/7/2024 11:35 PM, cshenk wrote:
I might try that one day. I tend to avoid the oven. Just a quirk >>>>> from the years in Japan with truely outrageous electrical rates.
It was easy to pay as much for electricity as rent, and rent was
not cheap!
I'm glad my electric bill is not outrageous. I use the oven
frequently (even in the summer).
Jill
Yes. The first 1,200$ bill for a month electric had us make immediate
shifts.
That is what I spent for 2023. Actually, $1170 for the year. What do
you do to use that much? Heat?  6000 sq ft house?
She was referring to the electric prices when they lived in Japan, years
ago.
Jill
On 1/7/2024 11:35 PM, cshenk wrote:
I might try that one day. I tend to avoid the oven. Just a
quirk from the years in Japan with truely outrageous electrical
rates. It was easy to pay as much for electricity as rent, and
rent was not cheap!
I'm glad my electric bill is not outrageous. I use the oven
frequently (even in the summer).
Jill
Yes. The first 1,200$ bill for a month electric had us make
immediate shifts.
That is what I spent for 2023. Actually, $1170 for the year. What do
you do to use that much? Heat? 6000 sq ft house?
Ed P wrote:
On 1/7/2024 11:35 PM, cshenk wrote:
I might try that one day. I tend to avoid the oven. Just a
quirk from the years in Japan with truely outrageous electrical
rates. It was easy to pay as much for electricity as rent, and
rent was not cheap!
I'm glad my electric bill is not outrageous. I use the oven
frequently (even in the summer).
Jill
Yes. The first 1,200$ bill for a month electric had us make
immediate shifts.
That is what I spent for 2023. Actually, $1170 for the year. What do
you do to use that much? Heat? 6000 sq ft house?
Ed, that was Japan. Not where I am now.
On 1/8/2024 9:06 AM, jmcquown wrote:
On 1/7/2024 11:51 PM, Ed P wrote:
On 1/7/2024 11:35 PM, cshenk wrote:
I might try that one day. I tend to avoid the oven. Just
a quirk from the years in Japan with truely outrageous
electrical rates. It was easy to pay as much for
electricity as rent, and rent was not cheap!
I'm glad my electric bill is not outrageous. I use the oven frequently (even in the summer).
Jill
Yes. The first 1,200$ bill for a month electric had us make
immediate shifts.
That is what I spent for 2023. Actually, $1170 for the year.
What do you do to use that much? Heat?  6000 sq ft house?
She was referring to the electric prices when they lived in Japan,
years ago.
Jill
I see that now, but still crazy.
Hottest month in the summer here is $140. In CT I could hit $200.
This month will be less than $60.
Ed P wrote:
On 1/8/2024 9:06 AM, jmcquown wrote:
On 1/7/2024 11:51 PM, Ed P wrote:
On 1/7/2024 11:35 PM, cshenk wrote:
I might try that one day. I tend to avoid the oven. Just
a quirk from the years in Japan with truely outrageous
electrical rates. It was easy to pay as much for
electricity as rent, and rent was not cheap!
I'm glad my electric bill is not outrageous. I use the oven
frequently (even in the summer).
Jill
Yes. The first 1,200$ bill for a month electric had us make
immediate shifts.
That is what I spent for 2023. Actually, $1170 for the year.
What do you do to use that much? Heat?  6000 sq ft house?
She was referring to the electric prices when they lived in Japan,
years ago.
Jill
I see that now, but still crazy.
Hottest month in the summer here is $140. In CT I could hit $200.
This month will be less than $60.
It was crazy in Japan. Here in VA, it's not cheap but nothing like
Japan.
On Mon, 08 Jan 2024 04:35:54 +0000, "cshenk"
<cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
jmcquown wrote:
quirk >> > from the years in Japan with truely outrageous electricalOn 1/7/2024 2:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
I might try that one day. I tend to avoid the oven. Just a
rates. >> > It was easy to pay as much for electricity as rent, and
rent was >> > not cheap!
I'm glad my electric bill is not outrageous. I use the oven
frequently (even in the summer).
Jill
Yes. The first 1,200$ bill for a month electric had us make
immediate shifts.
$1200 a month? Maybe you had 2 airconditioners going, unknowingly. One
was heating and one was cooling.
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