• Ameriware- US made cookware

    From terrabellaslv@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 21 19:56:56 2016
    On Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 8:18:22 AM UTC-7, mystr0 wrote:
    I noticed Costco is now carrying (online) a line called Ameriware,
    it's discription and 25 year warranty but also the fact that it's
    forged in the US certainly got my attention especially after I read in
    the WSJ that US steel companies which have survived are considered
    some of the very best in the world for quality....has anyone here used
    or is familiar with this cookware?

    In short, this cookware is crap, for so many reasons.

    Trying to find a replacement for one that got damaged--all too easily--for a rented out guest home, I called the manufacturer in Wisconsin, who makes the product (and several other brands), then spoke with the rep who knows how all those products are
    made. The rep admitted that Ameriware is not among even among the middle of the road brands.

    First, a cookware line that is all non-stick is a very bad sign. No one needs or should ever use non-stick for everything. Good quality 3+ ply stainless is easy to use, easy to clean up and fairly non-stick when used the right way. There are times, like
    high heat searing, that a non-stick is useful but not this low-end plastic stuff. One or two scan pans or ceramic fry pans is all you need for that purpose. You will never go back. You will save yourself the heartache of scrubbing and cleaning when you
    have quality cookware.

    Second, the coating is toxic. The manufacturer confirmed that the chemical context is essentially old school, chemically like the brand Teflon. Poison! Never use plastic and never heat it. Discerning home chefs can taste the difference in food cooked in
    toxic past crap and clean inert steel.

    Third, it's not durable. People that "love" their non-stick cookware are not experienced, serious cooks. The plastic cooking tools to avoid scratching the plastic costed cookware are toxic too.Look at the melted ends; you eat that crap. So toss it out.

    Fourth, this brand in particular is not quality non-stick. The difference between this crap and stainless is 180 degrees. Food sticks to the pans unless kept to a simmer. And the coating wears off so easily!

    Fifth, the overall quality of the pan is mediocre at best, not well constructed at all. Look at the handle. The injected steel is not even finished well. It's sloppy. The handle is not well constructed and it gets hot. The flimsy plastic sleeve melts and
    it's a hassle. If you must have a handle cover, make it silicone. The better pans are designed so you do not need a sleeve at all, they stay cool. The coating comes right off. Again. you eat that poison. And, the pan is not usable, even with the coating
    off and loads of oil.This is sold at fairs and road shows. Its made for the non-discerning cook who is clueless.

    I can attest that this brand, doesn't wear well. Over the course of a fe weeks, the pan was more aggravating to use. The pan was overheated and improperly used, but not by a long shot. Still, the coating came completely off.

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  • From terrabellaslv@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 21 20:29:06 2016
    On Monday, May 7, 2007 at 7:01:17 PM UTC-7, mystr0 wrote:
    Thanks for the headsup, if peeling and cracking is included in the 25
    year then it's an excellent buy
    but I have never seen this offered before but since Costco is
    selling it they will make good on problems but http://www.vollrathco.com/ seems quite vague
    on it's Nonstick..not so on SS or Carbon, hmmm

    No, according to the rep, peeling and cracking would be blamed on the user for overheting it. Good luck with the warranty; usually the manufacturer gets out of it.

    On the other hand I bought my all cld from Williams Sonoma. They were unsympathetic to my delaminated pan. But I spoke with the rep and they replaced it. $230 saved. Go withAll clad and buy as you cn if it's too costly. Save coupons up and get it from
    Bed Bath and Beyond.

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  • From terrabellaslv@gmail.com@21:1/5 to pltrgyst on Fri Oct 21 20:01:04 2016
    On Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 9:20:02 AM UTC-7, pltrgyst wrote:
    On 6 May 2007 08:18:22 -0700, maestro <highpurity@gmail.com> wrote:

    I noticed Costco is now carrying (online) a line called Ameriware,
    it's discription and 25 year warranty but also the fact that it's
    forged in the US certainly got my attention especially after I read in
    the WSJ that US steel companies which have survived are considered
    some of the very best in the world for quality....has anyone here used
    or is familiar with this cookware?

    In order for a warranty to have value, that company or comopany
    subsidiary must be around for the duration of the warranty. In most
    cases today, that's questionable.

    Interestingly, they no longer seem to be available through cookswarehouse.com, for whom they were originally made and by whom
    ythey were exclusively sold for years.

    You could look at http://www.ameriwareprofessional.com/, or at the manufacturer site http://www.vollrathco.com/.

    Or you could read gardenweb.com:

    "Ameriware cookware

    Posted by maria67 (My Page)

    I purchased this cookware (very pricey) 3 years ago at Fort Rucker AL
    and I found it to be mediocre. The handles are very user unfriendly.
    The bottom coating is nearly peeled off. The non-stick coating has to
    be seasoned every week, and is too easily damaged. The only good thing
    about this cookware is the even heat distribution. I would not buy it
    again.

    Follow-Up Postings:

    * Posted by geoffshepherd

    Interesting. The pieces they (Cook's Warehouse) are selling now under
    the Pro-HG name are made by Vollrath and carry a 25-year warranty from Vollrath. The interior non-stick is ceramic-titanium reinforced. The
    exterior has some other kind of non-stick, but the bottoms are all
    machined flat leaving an uncoated aluminum base. I bought a 12-piece
    set + urethane utensils for $425 a week ago.

    The handles and lids are typical of commercial cookware (Vollrath,
    Wearever, etc) available at a restaurant supply. Indeed, Vollrath
    cookware is available locally, and the pieces are very similar in
    design, just different finish options/sizes and about the same price
    as Cook's Warehouse show prices.

    As non-sticks go, since finding out from Cook's Warehouse that even
    the HG-Pro finish has plastic in it (unlike what the sales rep
    claimed), I have my doubts as to ultimate longevity. The 25-year
    warranty only covers defects, not wear-and-tear, so whether a loss in
    the non-stick properties or peeling/chipping constitutes a defect is
    up to the manufacturer (Vollrath in the case of HG-Pro). "

    or http://www.cookingforengineers.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=129:

    "Do you need NSF certified kitchen equipment?
    In general, it doesn't hurt to have tools bearing the NSF mark, but I wouldn't use it as a deciding factor when purchasing gear for your
    kitchen. Recently a salesman we saw at Costco pushing Cook's
    Warehouse's Ameriware Professional cookware and claimed that the
    Ameriware pans were "more durable and safer because they are
    government certified for professional kitchens which is why Ameriware
    can claim their cookware to be Professional". (While saying this, the salesman flipped the pan over and showed the NSF mark etched into the
    bottom of the aluminum pan.) The salesman then went on to use the certification as one of the reasons why the pan's high price was
    justifiable as professional cookware is expensive. (That last
    statement is usually not true. Cookware designed for the professional
    kitchen is often cheaper than those designed for the home because they
    are replaced on at regular intervals. For example, Vollrath, a
    reputable restaurant equipment manufacturer who happens to manufacture Ameriware for Cook's Warehouse, makes a 12 in. non-stick aluminum pan
    that can be bought from a restaurant supply store for $25 while the comparable Ameriware pan was over $80 with the "show discount". Of
    course, the Ameriware pan has a space age titanium-ceramic non-stick surface... but no one has given me the opportunity to test a
    traditional non-stick against the Ameriware non-stick, yet.)"

    All in all, it looks like it's overpriced marketing of ordinary pans
    you can get at any good restaurant supply store.

    -- Larry

    Yes Larry, so true. All god points. pass on this stuff! Even Volrath reps are not proud of this line. The company reps I talked to wanted to differentiate the Ameriware from the other lines they manufacture under their own label. And they do not carry
    any with the same composition becsue it's not good enough to even carry the Wearever line.

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  • From corine.bullard@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 10 09:24:44 2018
    On Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 9:18:22 AM UTC-6, mystr0 wrote:
    I noticed Costco is now carrying (online) a line called Ameriware,
    it's discription and 25 year warranty but also the fact that it's
    forged in the US certainly got my attention especially after I read in
    the WSJ that US steel companies which have survived are considered
    some of the very best in the world for quality....has anyone here used
    or is familiar with this cookware?

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  • From Ed Pawlowski@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 12 15:52:54 2018
    On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 09:24:44 -0800 (PST), corine.bullard@gmail.com
    wrote:

    On Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 9:18:22 AM UTC-6, mystr0 wrote:
    I noticed Costco is now carrying (online) a line called Ameriware,
    it's discription and 25 year warranty but also the fact that it's
    forged in the US certainly got my attention especially after I read in
    the WSJ that US steel companies which have survived are considered
    some of the very best in the world for quality....has anyone here used
    or is familiar with this cookware?


    Never heard of it until now. Looks good in the demo. I'd like to see
    some details, such as how thick the pans is. The web site leave much
    to be desired.

    You may want to ask for rec.food.cooking as this group is pretty much
    dead these days.

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