• LAHD Drawer Slides

    From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 15 13:58:24 2022
    I'm working (in stages) on a big work bench and storage unit to go the
    full length of the back wall of my shop. I originally planned a single monolithic steel top bench 56 feet long. I've since decided to make it
    semi modular because somebody will want to disassemble and sell it.
    Probably at the estate sale after I die.

    I also asked my wife if she had any ideas about how to get more out of
    it. She made what is actually a fantastic suggestion. Put 6 or 8 foot
    long wing benches in every 8 feet. This allows me to my 8 foot modules
    with drawers one at a time, and in the long run will increase the bench
    top surface by nearly 1.5-1.8 times. Sure that's more surface are to
    suffer from HSD (horizontal surface disease), but it means its also more
    space to pile up things out of the way to make room for the current
    project.

    I have some steel tube (its pretty expensive right now), and I have 1/4
    inch steel plate for the entire project.

    Drawers are the problem. I can make plywood drawers (probably one or
    two at a time unless the price comes down) that will easily manage
    hundred of pounds. More specifically though drawer slides are the
    problem. I recently found a source for 250lb 30 inch slides at a pretty reasonable price. I think the seller wound up with a huge surplus lot.
    I've purchased 32 sets so far, and will purchase a probably that many
    more. Now what I am looking for are LONG ASS HEAVY DUTY drawer slides
    for the wing benches. I think 60 inch is a minimum, and 72 would be
    better. I've found a fair number of 60 inchers. The good news is every
    set I've found is rated for 500lbs. The bad news is every set I've
    found is relatively expensive. I may not do all the wings that way, but
    I hate to create dead space in the middle of all this investment either.
    I'd like to setup at least one 6foot wing with slide out drawers/trays
    for storing six foot stock. Long stock will probably still have be
    stored outside for now.

    Now before any of you all go off and tell me about buying a hodge podge
    of desks, file cabinets, and bins at auctions and yard sales... for the
    purpose of this I just don't care. I want something better than that.
    I have a hodge podge of stuff already, and that will probably all go
    upstairs over my office.

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  • From Jim Wilkins@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 16 07:10:53 2022
    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:t3cm9f$1og$1@gioia.aioe.org...

    ...Now what I am looking for are LONG ASS HEAVY DUTY drawer slides
    for the wing benches. I think 60 inch is a minimum, and 72 would be
    better. I've found a fair number of 60 inchers. The good news is every
    set I've found is rated for 500lbs. The bad news is every set I've
    found is relatively expensive. I may not do all the wings that way, but
    I hate to create dead space in the middle of all this investment either.
    I'd like to setup at least one 6foot wing with slide out drawers/trays
    for storing six foot stock. Long stock will probably still have be
    stored outside for now.

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    The lowest "drawer" could be a separate bin or stock rack on casters.

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Sat Apr 16 11:11:49 2022
    On 4/16/2022 4:10 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Bob La Londe"  wrote in message news:t3cm9f$1og$1@gioia.aioe.org...
    ...Now what I am looking for are LONG ASS HEAVY DUTY drawer slides for
    the wing benches.  I think 60 inch is a minimum, and 72 would be
    better.  I've found a fair number of 60 inchers.  The good news is every set I've found is rated for 500lbs.  The bad news is every set I've
    found is relatively expensive.  I may not do all the wings that way, but
    I hate to create dead space in the middle of all this investment either.
     I'd like to setup at least one 6foot wing with slide out drawers/trays
    for storing six foot stock.  Long stock will probably still have be
    stored outside for now.

    -------------------

    The lowest "drawer" could be a separate bin or stock rack on casters.



    That is a good idea. I have considered something along those lines.
    Also the upper drawers do not necessarily need to be full extension if I
    just want to be able to use the space. They can be half extension with
    a roller support or reversed drawer slide on the back half. The back
    portion could be open to one or both sides.





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  • From Jim Wilkins@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Sat Apr 16 18:51:07 2022
    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:t3f0t7$1lpk$1@gioia.aioe.org...

    On 4/16/2022 4:10 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:t3cm9f$1og$1@gioia.aioe.org...
    ...Now what I am looking for are LONG ASS HEAVY DUTY drawer slides for the wing benches. I think 60 inch is a minimum, and 72 would be better. I've found a fair number of 60 inchers. The good news is every set I've found
    is rated for 500lbs. The bad news is every set I've found is relatively expensive. I may not do all the wings that way, but I hate to create dead space in the middle of all this investment either. I'd like to setup at
    least one 6foot wing with slide out drawers/trays for storing six foot
    stock. Long stock will probably still have be stored outside for now.

    -------------------

    The lowest "drawer" could be a separate bin or stock rack on casters.



    That is a good idea. I have considered something along those lines.
    Also the upper drawers do not necessarily need to be full extension if I
    just want to be able to use the space. They can be half extension with
    a roller support or reversed drawer slide on the back half. The back
    portion could be open to one or both sides.

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    A drawer for small items may not need roller slides, just rails. I initially set up my shop bench on cut-down wooden bureaus for tool storage and haven't needed to change them, although they accumulated heavy loads of tools and
    pipe fittings.

    I have both wooden and metal roller-slide machinists' tool chests. There
    isn't much difference, except that the rollers are more trouble to re-engage
    if pulled out too far.

    The trade school where I'm taking evening adult-ed Auto Repair has
    magnificent tool cabinets. I'll try to remember to write down the brand.

    I know how to fix the vehicles I have now but they are 20+ year old tech
    that could have to be replaced any time now. Thanks to road salt cars age quickly in New England. The spray from the tires and the car ahead gets into and corrodes everything. My BIL was an Audi mechanic and sufficiently
    familiar - and frustrated - with the new stuff that he also drives
    20-year-old cars he can fix in his barn without the dealer's computer.

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  • From Jim Wilkins@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 19 07:21:18 2022
    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:t3cm9f$1og$1@gioia.aioe.org...

    I'm working (in stages) on a big work bench and storage unit to go the
    full length of the back wall of my shop. I originally planned a single monolithic steel top bench 56 feet long. I've since decided to make it
    semi modular because somebody will want to disassemble and sell it.
    Probably at the estate sale after I die.

    I also asked my wife if she had any ideas about how to get more out of
    it. She made what is actually a fantastic suggestion. Put 6 or 8 foot
    long wing benches in every 8 feet. This allows me to my 8 foot modules
    with drawers one at a time, and in the long run will increase the bench
    top surface by nearly 1.5-1.8 times. Sure that's more surface are to
    suffer from HSD (horizontal surface disease), but it means its also more
    space to pile up things out of the way to make room for the current
    project.

    ---------------------

    The trade school auto shop has 6-caster 6' x 2' Husky tool chests with wood tops, ~$1000 each. Although I'd choke on the price (which came from my
    taxes) they are very nice and strong enough to support the instructor's son sitting on a drawer.

    Several of them were damaged in shipping. When I've taken the time to track such things down to the salvage dealer I've gotten very good deals on them, like a 60 gallon air compressor minus the pump for $75. The trick is knowing what I can or can't fix.

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Tue Apr 19 09:11:36 2022
    On 4/19/2022 4:21 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Bob La Londe"  wrote in message news:t3cm9f$1og$1@gioia.aioe.org...

    I'm working (in stages) on a big work bench and storage unit to go the
    full length of the back wall of my shop.  I originally planned a single monolithic steel top bench 56 feet long.  I've since decided to make it
    semi modular because somebody will want to disassemble and sell it.
    Probably at the estate sale after I die.

    I also asked my wife if she had any ideas about how to get more out of
    it.  She made what is actually a fantastic suggestion.  Put 6 or 8 foot long wing benches in every 8 feet.  This allows me to my 8 foot modules
    with drawers one at a time, and in the long run will  increase the bench
    top surface by nearly 1.5-1.8 times.  Sure that's more surface are to
    suffer from HSD (horizontal surface disease), but it means its also more space to pile up things out of the way to make room for the current
    project.

    ---------------------

    The trade school auto shop has 6-caster 6' x 2' Husky tool chests with
    wood tops, ~$1000 each. Although I'd choke on the price (which came from
    my taxes) they are very nice and strong enough to support the
    instructor's son sitting on a drawer.

    Several of them were damaged in shipping. When I've taken the time to
    track such things down to the salvage dealer I've gotten very good deals
    on them, like a 60 gallon air compressor minus the pump for $75. The
    trick is knowing what I can or can't fix.



    Trust me. I've looked at a lot of different "tool boxes" as bench
    drawers. They won't cut it. I own Old Craftsman, new Craftsman, Husky
    (Home Depot brand), Waterloo, and Harbor Freight boxes. I even have a
    great big stainless steel roll around box I bought at Max Club back in
    the day. My goal is to eliminate most of them saving only a couple
    bottom boxes or carts for tool carts for individual machines in the
    shop. The rest will make some cheap dumpster diver very happy when I
    list them on cragislist or market place... or YEESH! have a driveway
    sale. I also have several quite decent work benches. One I think will
    get moved outside under a shade for work I'd rather do outside, and the
    others will probably go upstairs above my office for stuff I projects
    I'd like to leave setup, but rarely use like reloading shotgun shells
    you can't buy anymore.

    They even make big long steel benches with banks of drawers that will
    "almost" work. In my last house I had a laboratory bench in the garage
    that would have been great if my wife hadn't used it as a dumping ground
    for every little thing. The biggest problem with the lab bench is most
    of the drawers were pretty small. I like shallow drawers for some
    things, but they were also very narrow.

    For the most part every main bench drawer will be "about" 44 inches wide outside dimension and 30 inches deep. Every bay will be built the same
    with six sets of slides. For deeper drawers I'll utilize more than one
    set of slides on the same drawer. This will allow me to make drawers
    for "almost" any application. Shallow drawers for hand tools, medium
    drawers for some power tools, and deeper drawers for bulky/heavy things.


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