• OT: Low Profile Outlet

    From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 15 11:45:39 2022
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    Wire...Box... 120v-Plug

    I could have sworn I saw something like that once, but for the life of
    me I can't find it.


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  • From Jim Wilkins@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 16 07:55:04 2022
    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:srv4o0$2lq$2@dont-email.me...

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    Wire...Box... 120v-Plug

    I could have sworn I saw something like that once, but for the life of
    me I can't find it.

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    There are Low Voltage junction boxes about half the depth of 120V AC boxes. They are deep enough for barrier strips and these: https://www.discount-low-voltage.com/Connectivity/Keystone-Wallplate-Inserts but not NEMA 5-15 receptacles, the common 120VAC wall outlet.

    I haven't seen an outlet strip with cords at both ends, and can't suggest making something that might not be legal.

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  • From Leon Fisk@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Sun Jan 16 09:22:55 2022
    On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 07:55:04 -0500
    "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> wrote:

    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:srv4o0$2lq$2@dont-email.me...

    ~~~~~|_____| >~~~

    Wire...Box... 120v-Plug

    I could have sworn I saw something like that once, but for the life of
    me I can't find it.

    -------------------

    There are Low Voltage junction boxes about half the depth of 120V AC boxes. >They are deep enough for barrier strips and these: >https://www.discount-low-voltage.com/Connectivity/Keystone-Wallplate-Inserts >but not NEMA 5-15 receptacles, the common 120VAC wall outlet.

    I haven't seen an outlet strip with cords at both ends, and can't suggest >making something that might not be legal.


    I wasn't sure what he wanted. A low profile box or an outlet <shrug>

    You can get surface mount Duplex Outlets:

    https://www.menards.com/main/electrical/light-switches-dimmers-outlets/electrical-outlets/eaton-surface-mount-receptacle-brown/542b-box/p-1444427451976-c-9526.htm

    These are about the shallowest boxes I've seen:

    https://www.menards.com/main/electrical/electrical-boxes-covers/electrical-boxes/legrand-reg-slater-reg-1-gang-8-cu-in-pvc-shallow-electrical-switch-outlet-box/p108w/p-1444451200706-c-6425.htm

    https://www.menards.com/main/electrical/electrical-boxes-covers/electrical-boxes/raco-2-galvanized-steel-electrical-switch-outlet-box/405/p-1444451777335-c-6425.htm

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Sun Jan 16 09:33:13 2022
    On 1/16/2022 5:55 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Bob La Londe"  wrote in message news:srv4o0$2lq$2@dont-email.me...

    ~~~~~|_____| >~~~

    Wire...Box... 120v-Plug

    I could have sworn I saw something like that once, but for the life of
    me I can't find it.

    -------------------

    There are Low Voltage junction boxes about half the depth of 120V AC
    boxes. They are deep enough for barrier strips and these: https://www.discount-low-voltage.com/Connectivity/Keystone-Wallplate-Inserts

    but not NEMA 5-15 receptacles, the common 120VAC wall outlet.

    I haven't seen an outlet strip with cords at both ends, and can't
    suggest making something that might not be legal.



    Yeah I am very familiar with low voltage equipment like that I held an
    L67 and C12 (combined later) license for 23 years until I retired from contracting.

    I am looking for a low profile box/outlet with receptacle on the small
    side. There are some older surface mount bakelite receptacles, but I am
    not a fan of bakelite.

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  • From Jim Wilkins@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Sun Jan 16 12:36:12 2022
    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:ss1hca$14r0$1@gioia.aioe.org...

    On 1/16/2022 5:55 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:srv4o0$2lq$2@dont-email.me...

    ~~~~~|_____| >~~~

    Wire...Box... 120v-Plug

    I could have sworn I saw something like that once, but for the life of
    me I can't find it.

    -------------------

    There are Low Voltage junction boxes about half the depth of 120V AC
    boxes. They are deep enough for barrier strips and these: https://www.discount-low-voltage.com/Connectivity/Keystone-Wallplate-Inserts but not NEMA 5-15 receptacles, the common 120VAC wall outlet.

    I haven't seen an outlet strip with cords at both ends, and can't suggest making something that might not be legal.


    Yeah I am very familiar with low voltage equipment like that I held an
    L67 and C12 (combined later) license for 23 years until I retired from contracting.

    I am looking for a low profile box/outlet with receptacle on the small
    side. There are some older surface mount bakelite receptacles, but I am
    not a fan of bakelite.

    -----------------------
    I've installed snap-in outlets in tight spaces in custom equipment, like
    oven controllers. https://www.amazon.com/Wire-Snap-Convenience-Outlet-15Amps/dp/B01DWPLHV0
    The right-angled pigtail leads don't increase the required box depth and you can install them in your choice of plastic or metal container, or shear,
    punch and fold your own as I often do. A safe-edge file squares the corners
    of a milled cutout neatly.

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  • From whit3rd@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Sun Jan 16 12:50:21 2022
    On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 4:55:44 AM UTC-8, Jim Wilkins wrote:

    I haven't seen an outlet strip with cords at both ends, and can't suggest making something that might not be legal.

    Oh, Wiremold makes those; steel channel with outlets every
    six inches, ready to take house wiring or a cord.

    <https://www.legrand.us/wire-and-cable-management/raceway-and-cord-covers/plugmold-systems/wiremold-20gb306tr-tamper-resistant-plugmold-multioutlet-system-in-white/p/wh20gb306tr>

    I screwed six feet of it to the wall and made it a branch circuit, so there's ONE place in the house
    where the bevy of trickle chargers can live.

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Sun Jan 16 13:43:45 2022
    On 1/16/2022 10:36 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Bob La Londe"  wrote in message news:ss1hca$14r0$1@gioia.aioe.org...

    On 1/16/2022 5:55 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Bob La Londe"  wrote in message news:srv4o0$2lq$2@dont-email.me...

    ~~~~~|_____| >~~~

    Wire...Box... 120v-Plug

    I could have sworn I saw something like that once, but for the life of
    me I can't find it.

    -------------------

    There are Low Voltage junction boxes about half the depth of 120V AC
    boxes. They are deep enough for barrier strips and these:
    https://www.discount-low-voltage.com/Connectivity/Keystone-Wallplate-Inserts >>
    but not NEMA 5-15 receptacles, the common 120VAC wall outlet.

    I haven't seen an outlet strip with cords at both ends, and can't
    suggest making something that might not be legal.


    Yeah I am very familiar with low voltage equipment like that I held an
    L67 and C12 (combined later) license for 23 years until I retired from contracting.

    I am looking for a low profile box/outlet with receptacle on the small side.  There are some older surface mount bakelite receptacles, but I am
    not a fan of bakelite.

    -----------------------
    I've installed snap-in outlets in tight spaces in custom equipment, like
    oven controllers. https://www.amazon.com/Wire-Snap-Convenience-Outlet-15Amps/dp/B01DWPLHV0
    The right-angled pigtail leads don't increase the required box depth and
    you can install them in your choice of plastic or metal container, or
    shear, punch and fold your own as I often do. A safe-edge file squares
    the corners of a milled cutout neatly.


    I am about resigned to making something custom using an outlet like that
    at this point. I had hoped to find a ready made solution as I'm just so
    darn busy in the shop, but ultimately I answer to SWMBO even before
    customers.


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  • From Jim Wilkins@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Mon Jan 17 08:35:31 2022
    "whit3rd" wrote in message news:4bfecc8f-dee5-470b-8b86-2dcf8dd78760n@googlegroups.com...

    On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 4:55:44 AM UTC-8, Jim Wilkins wrote:

    I haven't seen an outlet strip with cords at both ends, and can't suggest making something that might not be legal.

    Oh, Wiremold makes those; steel channel with outlets every
    six inches, ready to take house wiring or a cord.

    <https://www.legrand.us/wire-and-cable-management/raceway-and-cord-covers/plugmold-systems/wiremold-20gb306tr-tamper-resistant-plugmold-multioutlet-system-in-white/p/wh20gb306tr>

    I screwed six feet of it to the wall and made it a branch circuit, so
    there's ONE place in the house
    where the bevy of trickle chargers can live.

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    We had those on the front edge of the upper shelf on electronics lab
    benches. They are very convenient for equipment on the upper shelf but not
    so good for stuff on the bench top because the dangling cords get in the
    way. For that I prefer an outlet strip tucked behind the gear.

    My kitchen solution, which also isn't what was apparently asked for, is a 6 outlet strip with magnets added to the back, stuck high on the stove side of the refrigerator. Being me, I added a GFCI and a remote volt/amp/wattmeter display to it to imitate this at a fraction of the price: https://www.amazon.com/P3-P4330-Kill-Surge-Protector/dp/B004OG94VW

    It normally plugs into the single stove top outlet, or into the inverter
    when running from batteries and solar power, thus the wattmeter to monitor voltage, current and watt hour consumption from the batteries.

    The 7 outlet USB3 hub attached under the top shelf on my computer desk
    doubles as a charging station. An AT35 USB3 wattmeter shows if the device is actually properly connected and charging, and how many mAh it accepted from empty to fully charged, a good measure of battery condition.

    I added external Anderson connectors to a little 30V 5A USB2 wattmeter so it can show the charging of a 12V battery, or fast charge a hungry USB device
    from a lab power supply. Anderson PP45s are a good choice for battery power which can flow in either direction because they genderless and dead-front
    safe from shorting when unplugged.
    https://www.usbgear.com/usb3-info.html

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  • From Bob Engelhardt@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 17 08:26:29 2022
    https://www.lowes.com/pd/Wiremold-700-Series-1-Piece-White-Raceway-Electrical-Box/3277047

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