• Re: Slip rolls

    From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Snag on Mon Nov 6 18:58:39 2023
    On 11/6/2023 6:17 PM, Snag wrote:
      My wife's always complaining that when I want/need a tool I just go
    out and buy it . She says it never gives her the opportunity to buy me something ... so this year I'm giving her a list . Top of the list items
    are a benchrest rest for my rifles , and a slip roll . I'm looking at
    the benchrests , but I'm not real conversant on slip rolls . I'd like to
    roll up to 16ga , max probably 12-18" . A friend had a wider HF unit , I
    was less than impressed . Might have been a lemon ... one of my first projects will be repair parts for my 20+ year old smoker . That'll be
    16ga probably 12" wide . Smoked a lot of butts on this rig , can't find
    one with steel this thick any more for less than a small fortune .

    I can tell you stainless sheet is a lot harder to bend/form than mild
    steel if that makes any difference.

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    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff


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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 6 19:17:05 2023
    My wife's always complaining that when I want/need a tool I just go
    out and buy it . She says it never gives her the opportunity to buy me something ... so this year I'm giving her a list . Top of the list items
    are a benchrest rest for my rifles , and a slip roll . I'm looking at
    the benchrests , but I'm not real conversant on slip rolls . I'd like to
    roll up to 16ga , max probably 12-18" . A friend had a wider HF unit , I
    was less than impressed . Might have been a lemon ... one of my first
    projects will be repair parts for my 20+ year old smoker . That'll be
    16ga probably 12" wide . Smoked a lot of butts on this rig , can't find
    one with steel this thick any more for less than a small fortune .
    --
    Snag
    Men don't protect women because they're weak .
    We protect them because they're important .

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  • From Jim Wilkins@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 6 23:14:06 2023
    "Snag" wrote in message news:uic36j$mo71$1@dont-email.me...

    one of my first
    projects will be repair parts for my 20+ year old smoker . That'll be
    16ga probably 12" wide . Smoked a lot of butts on this rig , can't find
    one with steel this thick any more for less than a small fortune .

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    If you can make replacements their lifespan doesn't matter much compared to
    the ease of making them. I get a few years from shop made 22 ga steel heat shields in my woodstove. It was the top rail and uprights on a scrapped
    above ground pool. Acetone removes the paint for spotwelding. When the
    plastic sliding gate assembly on the pool owner's seed spreader broke I made
    a replacement from his old pool metal.

    Water heater shells were good sources of large steel sheets back when the insulation was fiberglass, but now the foam sticks to the steel.

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  • From Jim Wilkins@21:1/5 to Snag on Mon Nov 6 22:54:33 2023
    "Snag" wrote in message news:uic36j$mo71$1@dont-email.me...

    A friend had a wider HF unit , I was less than impressed . Might have been
    a lemon ...

    I have the 30" Central Machinery model, with some Dayton replacement parts
    the previous owner tried before giving up on it. The Dayton manual gives the adjustment procedures but like welding bandsaw blades, having someone show
    and correct you would be better.
    https://www.grainger.com/ec/pdf/13W869_1.pdf

    With care and attention lemonade is possible. Mine has rolled stainless into stovepipe. It struggles with its rated maximum thickness but works
    reasonably well with thinner stock, such as 0.050" 5052. It's been happy
    with bending 22 ga galvy for some under car rust repair, though I cut it
    with an 8" Enco scissors shear that should be less trouble to sharpen. I
    formed the radii by reversing the die and pressing the proper size of rod
    stock into the sheet with its flat edge. Along with the HF spotwelder it's
    let me copy some difficult 3D curved shapes such as the intersection with
    the inner fender well.

    Before I bought it I had a Pexto shear and a finger brake available at work, plus a 24" "Triok" model of the 3-in-1 that was built properly in Taiwan. If
    I had the space I'd own US versions of the separate machines, but I don't except for a Whitney corner notcher and have learned to manage with the CM, which will do almost as much, just not as easily. Adjustments are fussy and don't hold for long, especially on max stock. It helped to have learned how
    to adjust the Pexto to cut paper. The CM was definitely an assembled kit
    that needed to be cleaned up to work properly. Sheet metal work can be
    tricky with a learning curve even with good equipment, it was part of my machine design apprenticeship plus I learned a lot of it in 7th grade
    drafting class. Save the scrap for practice pieces, such as bend allowances.

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