• Olive Oil + Yeast

    From Baloonon@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 29 16:43:55 2020
    This is a new one for me, but it's been around for a while.

    In 2005 a paper was written by Grady Hull, affiliated with New Belgium
    Brewery, testing the addition of very small amounts of olive oil to
    promote yeast growth.

    https://pdfslide.net/download/link/hull-olive-oil-thesis

    This is a new test of the idea:

    http://brulosophy.com/2020/01/27/impact-of-using-olive-oil-as-an- alternative-to-wort-aeration-exbeeriment-results/

    https://tinyurl.com/vp236bx

    Surprisingly, both found notable effects in faster and more vigorous fermentation, without a negative effect on flavor.

    The amount of olive oil is very small -- the New Belgium experiment went
    no higher than 1 mg per 25 billion cells of yeast. The home brewer
    experiment pushed it all the way up to 8 ml for a dose of yeast.

    Neither seemed to add enough fat to the beer to effect foam, although it
    seems smart to use the least amount possible. Measuring out that small
    of an amount of oil seems like it would be a challenge -- it may be
    possible to make a rough estimate by taking a gram of oil, let it spread
    it out over a flat surface, measure the area of the surface, and then
    use that to get a rough idea of how much might coat the tip of a butter
    knife.

    For everyday brewing it is probably not worthwhile, but for yeasts which sometimes have stuck fermentations it might be something to try.

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  • From Tom Biasi@21:1/5 to Baloonon on Wed Jan 29 15:59:02 2020
    On 1/29/2020 11:43 AM, Baloonon wrote:
    This is a new one for me, but it's been around for a while.

    In 2005 a paper was written by Grady Hull, affiliated with New Belgium Brewery, testing the addition of very small amounts of olive oil to
    promote yeast growth.

    https://pdfslide.net/download/link/hull-olive-oil-thesis

    This is a new test of the idea:

    http://brulosophy.com/2020/01/27/impact-of-using-olive-oil-as-an- alternative-to-wort-aeration-exbeeriment-results/

    https://tinyurl.com/vp236bx

    Surprisingly, both found notable effects in faster and more vigorous fermentation, without a negative effect on flavor.

    The amount of olive oil is very small -- the New Belgium experiment went
    no higher than 1 mg per 25 billion cells of yeast. The home brewer
    experiment pushed it all the way up to 8 ml for a dose of yeast.

    Neither seemed to add enough fat to the beer to effect foam, although it seems smart to use the least amount possible. Measuring out that small
    of an amount of oil seems like it would be a challenge -- it may be
    possible to make a rough estimate by taking a gram of oil, let it spread
    it out over a flat surface, measure the area of the surface, and then
    use that to get a rough idea of how much might coat the tip of a butter knife.

    For everyday brewing it is probably not worthwhile, but for yeasts which sometimes have stuck fermentations it might be something to try.

    That's interesting. I would be tempted to try it with an IPA. I wonder
    if a taste could be perceived in lighter, low hopped beers.

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  • From Denny Conn@21:1/5 to Baloonon on Sun Jun 28 10:49:29 2020
    On Wednesday, January 29, 2020 at 8:44:00 AM UTC-8, Baloonon wrote:
    This is a new one for me, but it's been around for a while.

    In 2005 a paper was written by Grady Hull, affiliated with New Belgium Brewery, testing the addition of very small amounts of olive oil to
    promote yeast growth.

    https://pdfslide.net/download/link/hull-olive-oil-thesis

    This is a new test of the idea:

    http://brulosophy.com/2020/01/27/impact-of-using-olive-oil-as-an- alternative-to-wort-aeration-exbeeriment-results/

    https://tinyurl.com/vp236bx

    Surprisingly, both found notable effects in faster and more vigorous fermentation, without a negative effect on flavor.

    The amount of olive oil is very small -- the New Belgium experiment went
    no higher than 1 mg per 25 billion cells of yeast. The home brewer
    experiment pushed it all the way up to 8 ml for a dose of yeast.

    Neither seemed to add enough fat to the beer to effect foam, although it seems smart to use the least amount possible. Measuring out that small
    of an amount of oil seems like it would be a challenge -- it may be
    possible to make a rough estimate by taking a gram of oil, let it spread
    it out over a flat surface, measure the area of the surface, and then
    use that to get a rough idea of how much might coat the tip of a butter knife.

    For everyday brewing it is probably not worthwhile, but for yeasts which sometimes have stuck fermentations it might be something to try.

    I did something no other homebrewer has done. I actually contacted Grady about this. He said he had never tested it for propagation, only storage. Even then it didn't work well. The whole story is in my book Experimental Homebrewing.

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  • From Baloonon@21:1/5 to Denny Conn on Sun Jul 5 03:22:53 2020
    Denny Conn <homebrewer86@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, January 29, 2020 at 8:44:00 AM UTC-8, Baloonon wrote:

    For everyday brewing it is probably not worthwhile, but for yeasts
    which sometimes have stuck fermentations it might be something to
    try.

    I did something no other homebrewer has done. I actually contacted
    Grady about this. He said he had never tested it for propagation, only storage. Even then it didn't work well. The whole story is in my
    book Experimental Homebrewing.

    Cool, thanks for the detail. Have to admit I forgot about this and never
    ended up trying it, and it sounds like it's not worth it.

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