• Report from Zion Rap Accident Survivor

    From home.surgery.made.easy@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Freeze on Mon Apr 10 10:10:04 2017
    On Saturday, July 6, 2002 at 10:35:24 AM UTC+10, Freeze wrote:
    "park1231" <park1231@cox.net> wrote in message news:<duIU8.6634$0c1.535180@news1.west.cox.net>...
    My condolences to your friend and his family.

    Is the lesson learned that on a double rope rappel that the
    safer way to join two ropes is with an overhand aka EDK
    instead of with a figure 8?

    Sorry to here about your bud...that really sucks.

    I have used the figure eight describe, I did not like it because of
    the distortion of the knot under load. I will have to try the tail
    thing. I have been useing the double fisherman's (barrell knot) for
    about ten years with no problems. It does get pretty tight sometimes.

    Freeze


    Freeze
    Yep, a barrel not is by far the best and almost as good as a longer rope with no knot at all. Even if a Barrel is difficult to undo (that is the point isn't it?) impossible to undo on string type diameters and why it is sometimes called the impossible
    knot. 10mm lines are always easy to undo to my mind.
    I only use opposed direction Figures eights for webbing, always with tails with two half hitches,called a water knot not really a figure 8, which should only be used for stoppers in any case, and there are superior choices even then.
    I never employ one like a mere overhand knot as they did. It is mere laziness beyond bad practice and amazes me it was entertained. That is just asking for trouble I am astounded by the practice and would of refused to hook in.

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