• Re: trump HATES police fire and e.m.s.

    From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to bruce2bowser@gmail.com on Tue Jan 4 19:53:15 2022
    On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 15:58:30 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
    <bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:

    Trump Bills Secret Service $40,000 At Mar-a-Lago Since Leaving Office
    The Guardian - May 21, 2021
    -- https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/21/trump-secret-service-mar-a-lago-florida-room


    That is just how it works. How much do we pay for the other former
    president's security?

    As much as you may hate him, Nixon was the only former president to
    waive off SS protection and hire his own, although the law allowed him
    to have it.
    In 1994 protection was reduced to 10 years
    Obama reupped that law in 2013, making it lifetime again and the
    wording is such that the only way it would be unavailable is if the
    president was removed by impeachment (not resignation or an amendment
    25 action).
    They all get a million dollars a year for security and other
    incidental expenses in addition to other percs. Obama spent $1,153,000
    in 2018 according to a Congressional Research Service memo, the new
    record high at the time.

    Personally I think it is stupid. In 1958 when the original law was
    passed former presidents like Truman may not have really had much
    money but these days they are all millionaires shortly after they
    leave office. They can afford their own security and office space.
    Carter, maybe the poorest former president at ~$10M, costs us the
    least ($400k or so)

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  • From Bill@21:1/5 to gfretwell@aol.com on Wed Jan 5 19:26:51 2022
    <gfretwell@aol.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 15:58:30 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser <bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:

    Trump Bills Secret Service $40,000 At Mar-a-Lago Since Leaving Office
    The Guardian - May 21, 2021
    --
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/21/trump-secret-service-mar-a-lago-florida-room


    That is just how it works. How much do we pay for the other former president's security?

    As much as you may hate him, Nixon was the only former president to
    waive off SS protection and hire his own, although the law allowed him
    to have it.
    In 1994 protection was reduced to 10 years
    Obama reupped that law in 2013, making it lifetime again and the
    wording is such that the only way it would be unavailable is if the
    president was removed by impeachment (not resignation or an amendment
    25 action).
    They all get a million dollars a year for security and other
    incidental expenses in addition to other percs. Obama spent $1,153,000
    in 2018 according to a Congressional Research Service memo, the new
    record high at the time.

    Personally I think it is stupid. In 1958 when the original law was
    passed former presidents like Truman may not have really had much
    money but these days they are all millionaires shortly after they
    leave office. They can afford their own security and office space.
    Carter, maybe the poorest former president at ~$10M, costs us the
    least ($400k or so)




    Clinton billed the SS $10,000 a month for the housing at his new mansion in
    New York. Approximately the monthly mortgage payment for the estate.
    Share the blame!

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to califbill9998remove8@gmail.com on Wed Jan 5 18:40:44 2022
    On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:26:51 -0000 (UTC), Bill
    <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

    <gfretwell@aol.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 15:58:30 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
    <bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:

    Trump Bills Secret Service $40,000 At Mar-a-Lago Since Leaving Office
    The Guardian - May 21, 2021
    --
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/21/trump-secret-service-mar-a-lago-florida-room


    That is just how it works. How much do we pay for the other former
    president's security?

    As much as you may hate him, Nixon was the only former president to
    waive off SS protection and hire his own, although the law allowed him
    to have it.
    In 1994 protection was reduced to 10 years
    Obama reupped that law in 2013, making it lifetime again and the
    wording is such that the only way it would be unavailable is if the
    president was removed by impeachment (not resignation or an amendment
    25 action).
    They all get a million dollars a year for security and other
    incidental expenses in addition to other percs. Obama spent $1,153,000
    in 2018 according to a Congressional Research Service memo, the new
    record high at the time.

    Personally I think it is stupid. In 1958 when the original law was
    passed former presidents like Truman may not have really had much
    money but these days they are all millionaires shortly after they
    leave office. They can afford their own security and office space.
    Carter, maybe the poorest former president at ~$10M, costs us the
    least ($400k or so)




    Clinton billed the SS $10,000 a month for the housing at his new mansion in >New York. Approximately the monthly mortgage payment for the estate.
    Share the blame!

    The Bowz doesn't want to hear that. He is even in denial about Clinton
    and Epstein being friends saying all the AP and UPI photos are
    photoshopped.

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  • From Mr Robot@21:1/5 to gfretwell@aol.com on Thu Jan 6 15:50:05 2022
    On Wed, 05 Jan 2022 18:40:44 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

    On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:26:51 -0000 (UTC), Bill ><califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

    <gfretwell@aol.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 15:58:30 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
    <bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:

    Trump Bills Secret Service $40,000 At Mar-a-Lago Since Leaving Office
    The Guardian - May 21, 2021
    --
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/21/trump-secret-service-mar-a-lago-florida-room


    That is just how it works. How much do we pay for the other former
    president's security?

    As much as you may hate him, Nixon was the only former president to
    waive off SS protection and hire his own, although the law allowed him
    to have it.
    In 1994 protection was reduced to 10 years
    Obama reupped that law in 2013, making it lifetime again and the
    wording is such that the only way it would be unavailable is if the
    president was removed by impeachment (not resignation or an amendment
    25 action).
    They all get a million dollars a year for security and other
    incidental expenses in addition to other percs. Obama spent $1,153,000
    in 2018 according to a Congressional Research Service memo, the new
    record high at the time.

    Personally I think it is stupid. In 1958 when the original law was
    passed former presidents like Truman may not have really had much
    money but these days they are all millionaires shortly after they
    leave office. They can afford their own security and office space.
    Carter, maybe the poorest former president at ~$10M, costs us the
    least ($400k or so)




    Clinton billed the SS $10,000 a month for the housing at his new mansion in >>New York. Approximately the monthly mortgage payment for the estate. >>Share the blame!

    The Bowz doesn't want to hear that. He is even in denial about Clinton
    and Epstein being friends saying all the AP and UPI photos are
    photoshopped.

    FYI, moron, Trump was also his "friend." I doubt he participated in
    the sex with children thing, as he's likely been impotent for decades.
    Maybe he just liked to watch, sort of like the hookers peeing on the
    Moscow hotel bed.

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