• Covid vaccination question

    From Mr. Luddite@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 12 07:12:47 2021
    This question popped into my head after I received
    a covid "booster" shot.

    I got the first, two dose regiment vaccinations
    last February and March. After the first
    I was given the covid vaccination card that
    everyone gets with the first dose indicated
    and then the second dose a month later.

    Back then, there was no talk of a "booster" being
    contemplated. There were questions of how long
    the vaccine would remain effective, with most
    experts saying at least a year.

    But, the covid card has room for *four* vaccine
    records. The first two lines are for "Dose 1 and
    Dose 2". The next two lines are reserved for "other".

    The card is not a record for other types of vaccinations
    like flu. It's specifically for anti covid vaccinations.

    So, does this mean that even then, when covid vaccinations
    first started, that it was anticipated that additional
    shots or doses would be required? If so, the public
    was never informed of this.

    Not sure I trust the big pharmaceutical companies. It
    is very possible they anticipated a federal program
    (i.e. - taxpayer funded) goldmine.

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 12 12:25:21 2021
    On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 07:12:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
    wrote:


    This question popped into my head after I received
    a covid "booster" shot.

    I got the first, two dose regiment vaccinations
    last February and March. After the first
    I was given the covid vaccination card that
    everyone gets with the first dose indicated
    and then the second dose a month later.

    Back then, there was no talk of a "booster" being
    contemplated. There were questions of how long
    the vaccine would remain effective, with most
    experts saying at least a year.

    But, the covid card has room for *four* vaccine
    records. The first two lines are for "Dose 1 and
    Dose 2". The next two lines are reserved for "other".

    The card is not a record for other types of vaccinations
    like flu. It's specifically for anti covid vaccinations.

    So, does this mean that even then, when covid vaccinations
    first started, that it was anticipated that additional
    shots or doses would be required? If so, the public
    was never informed of this.

    Not sure I trust the big pharmaceutical companies. It
    is very possible they anticipated a federal program
    (i.e. - taxpayer funded) goldmine.

    I said when this whole thing started drug companies do not build this
    kind of infrastructure for a one shot deal.
    It was confirmed when they said "Don't laminate the card" after the
    second dose.

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  • From Mr. Luddite@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Mon Dec 13 16:02:45 2021
    On 12/13/2021 3:28 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 12:25:29 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 07:12:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com>
    wrote:

    This question popped into my head after I received
    a covid "booster" shot.

    I got the first, two dose regiment vaccinations
    last February and March. After the first
    I was given the covid vaccination card that
    everyone gets with the first dose indicated
    and then the second dose a month later.

    Back then, there was no talk of a "booster" being
    contemplated. There were questions of how long
    the vaccine would remain effective, with most
    experts saying at least a year.

    But, the covid card has room for *four* vaccine
    records. The first two lines are for "Dose 1 and
    Dose 2". The next two lines are reserved for "other".

    The card is not a record for other types of vaccinations
    like flu. It's specifically for anti covid vaccinations.

    So, does this mean that even then, when covid vaccinations
    first started, that it was anticipated that additional
    shots or doses would be required? If so, the public
    was never informed of this.

    Not sure I trust the big pharmaceutical companies. It
    is very possible they anticipated a federal program
    (i.e. - taxpayer funded) goldmine.
    I said when this whole thing started drug companies do not build this
    kind of infrastructure for a one shot deal.
    It was confirmed when they said "Don't laminate the card" after the
    second dose.

    ===

    Ahh, yet another Covid conspiracy theory. Can we find out who designed that multi entry card and see if they are in on it too? And what about the hospitals and ER folks? Surely they are profiting big time also, at least the ones that haven't been
    worked to mental and physical exhaustion. Let's call up Tucker Carlson and give him more fodder for his unfounded rumor and innuendo machine.

    Personally I'm just glad that semi-effective vaccines were developed and distributed in near record time, and that the majority of my friends and relatives are not anti-vaxers. The statistics show that at least some of the former anti-vaxers have
    finally gotten religion and signed up for shots.

    For the record, I am certainly not an "anti-vaxer" Both Mrs.E. and I
    received the two-dose Moderna vaccine and also both received the booster.

    Heck, I even still wear a mask when I go to the supermarket or other
    place with a lot of people milling around.

    I just find it interesting that very early on in the vaccination program
    that someone or some group seemed to think additional shots may be
    required. Turns out they were.



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  • From wayne.beardsley@gmail.com@21:1/5 to gfre...@aol.com on Mon Dec 13 12:28:00 2021
    On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 12:25:29 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 07:12:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com>
    wrote:

    This question popped into my head after I received
    a covid "booster" shot.

    I got the first, two dose regiment vaccinations
    last February and March. After the first
    I was given the covid vaccination card that
    everyone gets with the first dose indicated
    and then the second dose a month later.

    Back then, there was no talk of a "booster" being
    contemplated. There were questions of how long
    the vaccine would remain effective, with most
    experts saying at least a year.

    But, the covid card has room for *four* vaccine
    records. The first two lines are for "Dose 1 and
    Dose 2". The next two lines are reserved for "other".

    The card is not a record for other types of vaccinations
    like flu. It's specifically for anti covid vaccinations.

    So, does this mean that even then, when covid vaccinations
    first started, that it was anticipated that additional
    shots or doses would be required? If so, the public
    was never informed of this.

    Not sure I trust the big pharmaceutical companies. It
    is very possible they anticipated a federal program
    (i.e. - taxpayer funded) goldmine.
    I said when this whole thing started drug companies do not build this
    kind of infrastructure for a one shot deal.
    It was confirmed when they said "Don't laminate the card" after the
    second dose.

    ===

    Ahh, yet another Covid conspiracy theory. Can we find out who designed that multi entry card and see if they are in on it too? And what about the hospitals and ER folks? Surely they are profiting big time also, at least the ones that haven't been
    worked to mental and physical exhaustion. Let's call up Tucker Carlson and give him more fodder for his unfounded rumor and innuendo machine.

    Personally I'm just glad that semi-effective vaccines were developed and distributed in near record time, and that the majority of my friends and relatives are not anti-vaxers. The statistics show that at least some of the former anti-vaxers have
    finally gotten religion and signed up for shots.

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Mon Dec 13 17:30:50 2021
    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 12:28:00 -0800 (PST),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 12:25:29 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 07:12:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com>
    wrote:

    This question popped into my head after I received
    a covid "booster" shot.

    I got the first, two dose regiment vaccinations
    last February and March. After the first
    I was given the covid vaccination card that
    everyone gets with the first dose indicated
    and then the second dose a month later.

    Back then, there was no talk of a "booster" being
    contemplated. There were questions of how long
    the vaccine would remain effective, with most
    experts saying at least a year.

    But, the covid card has room for *four* vaccine
    records. The first two lines are for "Dose 1 and
    Dose 2". The next two lines are reserved for "other".

    The card is not a record for other types of vaccinations
    like flu. It's specifically for anti covid vaccinations.

    So, does this mean that even then, when covid vaccinations
    first started, that it was anticipated that additional
    shots or doses would be required? If so, the public
    was never informed of this.

    Not sure I trust the big pharmaceutical companies. It
    is very possible they anticipated a federal program
    (i.e. - taxpayer funded) goldmine.
    I said when this whole thing started drug companies do not build this
    kind of infrastructure for a one shot deal.
    It was confirmed when they said "Don't laminate the card" after the
    second dose.

    ===

    Ahh, yet another Covid conspiracy theory. Can we find out who designed that multi entry card and see if they are in on it too? And what about the hospitals and ER folks? Surely they are profiting big time also, at least the ones that haven't been
    worked to mental and physical exhaustion. Let's call up Tucker Carlson and give him more fodder for his unfounded rumor and innuendo machine.

    Holy hyperbole batman.
    It isn't a conspiracy just a fact.

    Drug companies are in business to sell drugs and this is one sold at
    the point of a government gun. It doesn't get any more lucrative than
    that.

    If you think they are actually "free" you have become a democrat.

    It is also a fact that when they said not to laminate your card they
    told us it was to leave room for boosters.
    I thought it would be an annual routine like the flu shot, another
    cash cow but this is looking more like every 6-9 months. They are
    already talking about another booster and it hasn't been a year yet.


    Personally I'm just glad that semi-effective vaccines were developed and distributed in near record time, and that the majority of my friends and relatives are not anti-vaxers. The statistics show that at least some of the former anti-vaxers have
    finally gotten religion and signed up for shots.

    Semi effective is the right description. Most of the people with
    Omicron are fully vaccinated. The last time Lee Health and NCH were
    publishing data (last summer/fall) 18-22% of the people in the
    hospital "with" Covid were vaccinated. They did admit ANYONE who tests
    positive at intake, and everyone is tested, gets listed as a covid
    patient, even if they have a gunshot wound or were in a car crash.
    They call it "Isolated with Covid". Lee Health was putting them all in
    the Cleveland Avenue hospital down town if possible.
    That may explain why the US Covid numbers are so high.
    My wife was in Lee Health (Health Park) for a week in August and
    talked to the nurses about this every day.

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 13 17:34:34 2021
    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 16:02:45 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
    wrote:

    On 12/13/2021 3:28 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 12:25:29 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>> On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 07:12:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com>
    wrote:

    This question popped into my head after I received
    a covid "booster" shot.

    I got the first, two dose regiment vaccinations
    last February and March. After the first
    I was given the covid vaccination card that
    everyone gets with the first dose indicated
    and then the second dose a month later.

    Back then, there was no talk of a "booster" being
    contemplated. There were questions of how long
    the vaccine would remain effective, with most
    experts saying at least a year.

    But, the covid card has room for *four* vaccine
    records. The first two lines are for "Dose 1 and
    Dose 2". The next two lines are reserved for "other".

    The card is not a record for other types of vaccinations
    like flu. It's specifically for anti covid vaccinations.

    So, does this mean that even then, when covid vaccinations
    first started, that it was anticipated that additional
    shots or doses would be required? If so, the public
    was never informed of this.

    Not sure I trust the big pharmaceutical companies. It
    is very possible they anticipated a federal program
    (i.e. - taxpayer funded) goldmine.
    I said when this whole thing started drug companies do not build this
    kind of infrastructure for a one shot deal.
    It was confirmed when they said "Don't laminate the card" after the
    second dose.

    ===

    Ahh, yet another Covid conspiracy theory. Can we find out who designed that multi entry card and see if they are in on it too? And what about the hospitals and ER folks? Surely they are profiting big time also, at least the ones that haven't been
    worked to mental and physical exhaustion. Let's call up Tucker Carlson and give him more fodder for his unfounded rumor and innuendo machine.

    Personally I'm just glad that semi-effective vaccines were developed and distributed in near record time, and that the majority of my friends and relatives are not anti-vaxers. The statistics show that at least some of the former anti-vaxers have
    finally gotten religion and signed up for shots.

    For the record, I am certainly not an "anti-vaxer" Both Mrs.E. and I >received the two-dose Moderna vaccine and also both received the booster.

    Heck, I even still wear a mask when I go to the supermarket or other
    place with a lot of people milling around.

    I just find it interesting that very early on in the vaccination program
    that someone or some group seemed to think additional shots may be
    required. Turns out they were.

    Wayne thinks they were in on the conspiracy too.

    It is strange that he worked in finance and he thinks someone
    predicting that Pfizer and Moderna would try to maximize the return on
    their investment is a "conspiracy theory".

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  • From Bill@21:1/5 to gfretwell@aol.com on Tue Dec 14 01:05:04 2021
    <gfretwell@aol.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 12:28:00 -0800 (PST),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 12:25:29 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>> On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 07:12:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com>
    wrote:

    This question popped into my head after I received
    a covid "booster" shot.

    I got the first, two dose regiment vaccinations
    last February and March. After the first
    I was given the covid vaccination card that
    everyone gets with the first dose indicated
    and then the second dose a month later.

    Back then, there was no talk of a "booster" being
    contemplated. There were questions of how long
    the vaccine would remain effective, with most
    experts saying at least a year.

    But, the covid card has room for *four* vaccine
    records. The first two lines are for "Dose 1 and
    Dose 2". The next two lines are reserved for "other".

    The card is not a record for other types of vaccinations
    like flu. It's specifically for anti covid vaccinations.

    So, does this mean that even then, when covid vaccinations
    first started, that it was anticipated that additional
    shots or doses would be required? If so, the public
    was never informed of this.

    Not sure I trust the big pharmaceutical companies. It
    is very possible they anticipated a federal program
    (i.e. - taxpayer funded) goldmine.
    I said when this whole thing started drug companies do not build this
    kind of infrastructure for a one shot deal.
    It was confirmed when they said "Don't laminate the card" after the
    second dose.

    ===

    Ahh, yet another Covid conspiracy theory. Can we find out who designed
    that multi entry card and see if they are in on it too? And what about
    the hospitals and ER folks? Surely they are profiting big time also, at
    least the ones that haven't been worked to mental and physical
    exhaustion. Let's call up Tucker Carlson and give him more fodder for
    his unfounded rumor and innuendo machine.

    Holy hyperbole batman.
    It isn't a conspiracy just a fact.

    Drug companies are in business to sell drugs and this is one sold at
    the point of a government gun. It doesn't get any more lucrative than
    that.

    If you think they are actually "free" you have become a democrat.

    It is also a fact that when they said not to laminate your card they
    told us it was to leave room for boosters.
    I thought it would be an annual routine like the flu shot, another
    cash cow but this is looking more like every 6-9 months. They are
    already talking about another booster and it hasn't been a year yet.


    Personally I'm just glad that semi-effective vaccines were developed and
    distributed in near record time, and that the majority of my friends and
    relatives are not anti-vaxers. The statistics show that at least some
    of the former anti-vaxers have finally gotten religion and signed up for shots.

    Semi effective is the right description. Most of the people with
    Omicron are fully vaccinated. The last time Lee Health and NCH were publishing data (last summer/fall) 18-22% of the people in the
    hospital "with" Covid were vaccinated. They did admit ANYONE who tests positive at intake, and everyone is tested, gets listed as a covid
    patient, even if they have a gunshot wound or were in a car crash.
    They call it "Isolated with Covid". Lee Health was putting them all in
    the Cleveland Avenue hospital down town if possible.
    That may explain why the US Covid numbers are so high.
    My wife was in Lee Health (Health Park) for a week in August and
    talked to the nurses about this every day.


    Wife: Did I get fat during quarantine?
    Husband: you were never skinny.
    Time of Death: 11pm
    Cause: Covid

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  • From Mr Robot@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 14 16:45:02 2021
    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 16:02:45 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
    wrote:

    On 12/13/2021 3:28 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 12:25:29 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>> On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 07:12:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com>
    wrote:

    This question popped into my head after I received
    a covid "booster" shot.

    I got the first, two dose regiment vaccinations
    last February and March. After the first
    I was given the covid vaccination card that
    everyone gets with the first dose indicated
    and then the second dose a month later.

    Back then, there was no talk of a "booster" being
    contemplated. There were questions of how long
    the vaccine would remain effective, with most
    experts saying at least a year.

    But, the covid card has room for *four* vaccine
    records. The first two lines are for "Dose 1 and
    Dose 2". The next two lines are reserved for "other".

    The card is not a record for other types of vaccinations
    like flu. It's specifically for anti covid vaccinations.

    So, does this mean that even then, when covid vaccinations
    first started, that it was anticipated that additional
    shots or doses would be required? If so, the public
    was never informed of this.

    Not sure I trust the big pharmaceutical companies. It
    is very possible they anticipated a federal program
    (i.e. - taxpayer funded) goldmine.
    I said when this whole thing started drug companies do not build this
    kind of infrastructure for a one shot deal.
    It was confirmed when they said "Don't laminate the card" after the
    second dose.

    ===

    Ahh, yet another Covid conspiracy theory. Can we find out who designed that multi entry card and see if they are in on it too? And what about the hospitals and ER folks? Surely they are profiting big time also, at least the ones that haven't been
    worked to mental and physical exhaustion. Let's call up Tucker Carlson and give him more fodder for his unfounded rumor and innuendo machine.

    Personally I'm just glad that semi-effective vaccines were developed and distributed in near record time, and that the majority of my friends and relatives are not anti-vaxers. The statistics show that at least some of the former anti-vaxers have
    finally gotten religion and signed up for shots.

    For the record, I am certainly not an "anti-vaxer" Both Mrs.E. and I >received the two-dose Moderna vaccine and also both received the booster.

    Heck, I even still wear a mask when I go to the supermarket or other
    place with a lot of people milling around.

    I just find it interesting that very early on in the vaccination program
    that someone or some group seemed to think additional shots may be
    required. Turns out they were.

    You are certainly a moron.

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  • From Mr Robot@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 14 16:44:33 2021
    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 12:28:00 -0800 (PST),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 12:25:29 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 07:12:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com>
    wrote:

    This question popped into my head after I received
    a covid "booster" shot.

    I got the first, two dose regiment vaccinations
    last February and March. After the first
    I was given the covid vaccination card that
    everyone gets with the first dose indicated
    and then the second dose a month later.

    Back then, there was no talk of a "booster" being
    contemplated. There were questions of how long
    the vaccine would remain effective, with most
    experts saying at least a year.

    But, the covid card has room for *four* vaccine
    records. The first two lines are for "Dose 1 and
    Dose 2". The next two lines are reserved for "other".

    The card is not a record for other types of vaccinations
    like flu. It's specifically for anti covid vaccinations.

    So, does this mean that even then, when covid vaccinations
    first started, that it was anticipated that additional
    shots or doses would be required? If so, the public
    was never informed of this.

    Not sure I trust the big pharmaceutical companies. It
    is very possible they anticipated a federal program
    (i.e. - taxpayer funded) goldmine.
    I said when this whole thing started drug companies do not build this
    kind of infrastructure for a one shot deal.
    It was confirmed when they said "Don't laminate the card" after the
    second dose.

    ===

    Ahh, yet another Covid conspiracy theory. Can we find out who designed that multi entry card and see if they are in on it too? And what about the hospitals and ER folks? Surely they are profiting big time also, at least the ones that haven't been
    worked to mental and physical exhaustion. Let's call up Tucker Carlson and give him more fodder for his unfounded rumor and innuendo machine.

    Personally I'm just glad that semi-effective vaccines were developed and distributed in near record time, and that the majority of my friends and relatives are not anti-vaxers. The statistics show that at least some of the former anti-vaxers have
    finally gotten religion and signed up for shots.

    Exactly.

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  • From Mr Robot@21:1/5 to gfretwell@aol.com on Tue Dec 14 16:43:55 2021
    On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 12:25:21 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

    On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 07:12:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
    wrote:


    This question popped into my head after I received
    a covid "booster" shot.

    I got the first, two dose regiment vaccinations
    last February and March. After the first
    I was given the covid vaccination card that
    everyone gets with the first dose indicated
    and then the second dose a month later.

    Back then, there was no talk of a "booster" being
    contemplated. There were questions of how long
    the vaccine would remain effective, with most
    experts saying at least a year.

    But, the covid card has room for *four* vaccine
    records. The first two lines are for "Dose 1 and
    Dose 2". The next two lines are reserved for "other".

    The card is not a record for other types of vaccinations
    like flu. It's specifically for anti covid vaccinations.

    So, does this mean that even then, when covid vaccinations
    first started, that it was anticipated that additional
    shots or doses would be required? If so, the public
    was never informed of this.

    Not sure I trust the big pharmaceutical companies. It
    is very possible they anticipated a federal program
    (i.e. - taxpayer funded) goldmine.

    I said when this whole thing started drug companies do not build this
    kind of infrastructure for a one shot deal.
    It was confirmed when they said "Don't laminate the card" after the
    second dose.

    I said when I first encountered you that you're a fucking idiot.
    Nothing has changed.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Mr Robot@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 14 16:43:15 2021
    On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 07:12:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
    wrote:


    This question popped into my head after I received
    a covid "booster" shot.

    I got the first, two dose regiment vaccinations
    last February and March. After the first
    I was given the covid vaccination card that
    everyone gets with the first dose indicated
    and then the second dose a month later.

    Back then, there was no talk of a "booster" being
    contemplated. There were questions of how long
    the vaccine would remain effective, with most
    experts saying at least a year.

    But, the covid card has room for *four* vaccine
    records. The first two lines are for "Dose 1 and
    Dose 2". The next two lines are reserved for "other".

    The card is not a record for other types of vaccinations
    like flu. It's specifically for anti covid vaccinations.

    So, does this mean that even then, when covid vaccinations
    first started, that it was anticipated that additional
    shots or doses would be required? If so, the public
    was never informed of this.

    Not sure I trust the big pharmaceutical companies. It
    is very possible they anticipated a federal program
    (i.e. - taxpayer funded) goldmine.

    No, you're just ill-informed and basically stupid. It's not a matter
    of trust, except in the peer-reviewed investigations.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Mr Robot@21:1/5 to califbill9998remove8@gmail.com on Tue Dec 14 16:48:00 2021
    On Tue, 14 Dec 2021 01:05:04 -0000 (UTC), Bill
    <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

    <gfretwell@aol.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 12:28:00 -0800 (PST),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 12:25:29 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>> On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 07:12:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com>
    wrote:

    This question popped into my head after I received
    a covid "booster" shot.

    I got the first, two dose regiment vaccinations
    last February and March. After the first
    I was given the covid vaccination card that
    everyone gets with the first dose indicated
    and then the second dose a month later.

    Back then, there was no talk of a "booster" being
    contemplated. There were questions of how long
    the vaccine would remain effective, with most
    experts saying at least a year.

    But, the covid card has room for *four* vaccine
    records. The first two lines are for "Dose 1 and
    Dose 2". The next two lines are reserved for "other".

    The card is not a record for other types of vaccinations
    like flu. It's specifically for anti covid vaccinations.

    So, does this mean that even then, when covid vaccinations
    first started, that it was anticipated that additional
    shots or doses would be required? If so, the public
    was never informed of this.

    Not sure I trust the big pharmaceutical companies. It
    is very possible they anticipated a federal program
    (i.e. - taxpayer funded) goldmine.
    I said when this whole thing started drug companies do not build this
    kind of infrastructure for a one shot deal.
    It was confirmed when they said "Don't laminate the card" after the
    second dose.

    ===

    Ahh, yet another Covid conspiracy theory. Can we find out who designed
    that multi entry card and see if they are in on it too? And what about >>> the hospitals and ER folks? Surely they are profiting big time also, at >>> least the ones that haven't been worked to mental and physical
    exhaustion. Let's call up Tucker Carlson and give him more fodder for
    his unfounded rumor and innuendo machine.

    Holy hyperbole batman.
    It isn't a conspiracy just a fact.

    Drug companies are in business to sell drugs and this is one sold at
    the point of a government gun. It doesn't get any more lucrative than
    that.

    If you think they are actually "free" you have become a democrat.

    It is also a fact that when they said not to laminate your card they
    told us it was to leave room for boosters.
    I thought it would be an annual routine like the flu shot, another
    cash cow but this is looking more like every 6-9 months. They are
    already talking about another booster and it hasn't been a year yet.


    Personally I'm just glad that semi-effective vaccines were developed and >>> distributed in near record time, and that the majority of my friends and >>> relatives are not anti-vaxers. The statistics show that at least some
    of the former anti-vaxers have finally gotten religion and signed up for shots.

    Semi effective is the right description. Most of the people with
    Omicron are fully vaccinated. The last time Lee Health and NCH were
    publishing data (last summer/fall) 18-22% of the people in the
    hospital "with" Covid were vaccinated. They did admit ANYONE who tests
    positive at intake, and everyone is tested, gets listed as a covid
    patient, even if they have a gunshot wound or were in a car crash.
    They call it "Isolated with Covid". Lee Health was putting them all in
    the Cleveland Avenue hospital down town if possible.
    That may explain why the US Covid numbers are so high.
    My wife was in Lee Health (Health Park) for a week in August and
    talked to the nurses about this every day.


    Wife: Did I get fat during quarantine?
    Husband: you were never skinny.
    Time of Death: 11pm
    Cause: Covid


    She was the dumb one.. married you.

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  • From Mr Robot@21:1/5 to gfretwell@aol.com on Tue Dec 14 16:45:43 2021
    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 17:34:34 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 16:02:45 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
    wrote:

    On 12/13/2021 3:28 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 12:25:29 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>> On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 07:12:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com>
    wrote:

    This question popped into my head after I received
    a covid "booster" shot.

    I got the first, two dose regiment vaccinations
    last February and March. After the first
    I was given the covid vaccination card that
    everyone gets with the first dose indicated
    and then the second dose a month later.

    Back then, there was no talk of a "booster" being
    contemplated. There were questions of how long
    the vaccine would remain effective, with most
    experts saying at least a year.

    But, the covid card has room for *four* vaccine
    records. The first two lines are for "Dose 1 and
    Dose 2". The next two lines are reserved for "other".

    The card is not a record for other types of vaccinations
    like flu. It's specifically for anti covid vaccinations.

    So, does this mean that even then, when covid vaccinations
    first started, that it was anticipated that additional
    shots or doses would be required? If so, the public
    was never informed of this.

    Not sure I trust the big pharmaceutical companies. It
    is very possible they anticipated a federal program
    (i.e. - taxpayer funded) goldmine.
    I said when this whole thing started drug companies do not build this
    kind of infrastructure for a one shot deal.
    It was confirmed when they said "Don't laminate the card" after the
    second dose.

    ===

    Ahh, yet another Covid conspiracy theory. Can we find out who designed that multi entry card and see if they are in on it too? And what about the hospitals and ER folks? Surely they are profiting big time also, at least the ones that haven't been
    worked to mental and physical exhaustion. Let's call up Tucker Carlson and give him more fodder for his unfounded rumor and innuendo machine.

    Personally I'm just glad that semi-effective vaccines were developed and distributed in near record time, and that the majority of my friends and relatives are not anti-vaxers. The statistics show that at least some of the former anti-vaxers have
    finally gotten religion and signed up for shots.

    For the record, I am certainly not an "anti-vaxer" Both Mrs.E. and I >>received the two-dose Moderna vaccine and also both received the booster.

    Heck, I even still wear a mask when I go to the supermarket or other
    place with a lot of people milling around.

    I just find it interesting that very early on in the vaccination program >>that someone or some group seemed to think additional shots may be >>required. Turns out they were.

    Wayne thinks they were in on the conspiracy too.

    It is strange that he worked in finance and he thinks someone
    predicting that Pfizer and Moderna would try to maximize the return on
    their investment is a "conspiracy theory".



    I guess you don't like market capitalism. Who knew.

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  • From Mr Robot@21:1/5 to gfretwell@aol.com on Tue Dec 14 16:47:25 2021
    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 17:30:50 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 12:28:00 -0800 (PST),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 12:25:29 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 07:12:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com>
    wrote:

    This question popped into my head after I received
    a covid "booster" shot.

    I got the first, two dose regiment vaccinations
    last February and March. After the first
    I was given the covid vaccination card that
    everyone gets with the first dose indicated
    and then the second dose a month later.

    Back then, there was no talk of a "booster" being
    contemplated. There were questions of how long
    the vaccine would remain effective, with most
    experts saying at least a year.

    But, the covid card has room for *four* vaccine
    records. The first two lines are for "Dose 1 and
    Dose 2". The next two lines are reserved for "other".

    The card is not a record for other types of vaccinations
    like flu. It's specifically for anti covid vaccinations.

    So, does this mean that even then, when covid vaccinations
    first started, that it was anticipated that additional
    shots or doses would be required? If so, the public
    was never informed of this.

    Not sure I trust the big pharmaceutical companies. It
    is very possible they anticipated a federal program
    (i.e. - taxpayer funded) goldmine.
    I said when this whole thing started drug companies do not build this
    kind of infrastructure for a one shot deal.
    It was confirmed when they said "Don't laminate the card" after the
    second dose.

    ===

    Ahh, yet another Covid conspiracy theory. Can we find out who designed that multi entry card and see if they are in on it too? And what about the hospitals and ER folks? Surely they are profiting big time also, at least the ones that haven't been
    worked to mental and physical exhaustion. Let's call up Tucker Carlson and give him more fodder for his unfounded rumor and innuendo machine.

    Holy hyperbole batman.
    It isn't a conspiracy just a fact.

    Drug companies are in business to sell drugs and this is one sold at
    the point of a government gun. It doesn't get any more lucrative than
    that.

    If you think they are actually "free" you have become a democrat.

    It is also a fact that when they said not to laminate your card they
    told us it was to leave room for boosters.
    I thought it would be an annual routine like the flu shot, another
    cash cow but this is looking more like every 6-9 months. They are
    already talking about another booster and it hasn't been a year yet.


    Personally I'm just glad that semi-effective vaccines were developed and distributed in near record time, and that the majority of my friends and relatives are not anti-vaxers. The statistics show that at least some of the former anti-vaxers have
    finally gotten religion and signed up for shots.

    Semi effective is the right description. Most of the people with
    Omicron are fully vaccinated. The last time Lee Health and NCH were >publishing data (last summer/fall) 18-22% of the people in the
    hospital "with" Covid were vaccinated. They did admit ANYONE who tests >positive at intake, and everyone is tested, gets listed as a covid
    patient, even if they have a gunshot wound or were in a car crash.
    They call it "Isolated with Covid". Lee Health was putting them all in
    the Cleveland Avenue hospital down town if possible.
    That may explain why the US Covid numbers are so high.
    My wife was in Lee Health (Health Park) for a week in August and
    talked to the nurses about this every day.

    Well, if stupid shits like you and Tucker would stop promoting
    conspiracy theories, and if we could get 60 million people vaccinated,
    and then push the vaccines to places like Africa, we wouldn't have to
    get a booster.

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  • From John H@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Thu Dec 16 17:52:43 2021
    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 12:28:00 -0800 (PST),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 12:25:29 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 07:12:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com>
    wrote:

    This question popped into my head after I received
    a covid "booster" shot.

    I got the first, two dose regiment vaccinations
    last February and March. After the first
    I was given the covid vaccination card that
    everyone gets with the first dose indicated
    and then the second dose a month later.

    Back then, there was no talk of a "booster" being
    contemplated. There were questions of how long
    the vaccine would remain effective, with most
    experts saying at least a year.

    But, the covid card has room for *four* vaccine
    records. The first two lines are for "Dose 1 and
    Dose 2". The next two lines are reserved for "other".

    The card is not a record for other types of vaccinations
    like flu. It's specifically for anti covid vaccinations.

    So, does this mean that even then, when covid vaccinations
    first started, that it was anticipated that additional
    shots or doses would be required? If so, the public
    was never informed of this.

    Not sure I trust the big pharmaceutical companies. It
    is very possible they anticipated a federal program
    (i.e. - taxpayer funded) goldmine.
    I said when this whole thing started drug companies do not build this
    kind of infrastructure for a one shot deal.
    It was confirmed when they said "Don't laminate the card" after the
    second dose.

    ===

    Ahh, yet another Covid conspiracy theory. Can we find out who designed that multi entry card and see if they are in on it too? And what about the hospitals and ER folks? Surely they are profiting big time also, at least the ones that haven't been
    worked to mental and physical exhaustion. Let's call up Tucker Carlson and give him more fodder for his unfounded rumor and innuendo machine.

    Personally I'm just glad that semi-effective vaccines were developed and distributed in near record time, and that the majority of my friends and relatives are not anti-vaxers. The statistics show that at least some of the former anti-vaxers have
    finally gotten religion and signed up for shots.

    Thank God for Trump!

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 17 02:06:35 2021
    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 16:02:45 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
    wrote:

    On 12/13/2021 3:28 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 12:25:29 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>> On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 07:12:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com>
    wrote:

    This question popped into my head after I received
    a covid "booster" shot.

    I got the first, two dose regiment vaccinations
    last February and March. After the first
    I was given the covid vaccination card that
    everyone gets with the first dose indicated
    and then the second dose a month later.

    Back then, there was no talk of a "booster" being
    contemplated. There were questions of how long
    the vaccine would remain effective, with most
    experts saying at least a year.

    But, the covid card has room for *four* vaccine
    records. The first two lines are for "Dose 1 and
    Dose 2". The next two lines are reserved for "other".

    The card is not a record for other types of vaccinations
    like flu. It's specifically for anti covid vaccinations.

    So, does this mean that even then, when covid vaccinations
    first started, that it was anticipated that additional
    shots or doses would be required? If so, the public
    was never informed of this.

    Not sure I trust the big pharmaceutical companies. It
    is very possible they anticipated a federal program
    (i.e. - taxpayer funded) goldmine.
    I said when this whole thing started drug companies do not build this
    kind of infrastructure for a one shot deal.
    It was confirmed when they said "Don't laminate the card" after the
    second dose.

    ===

    Ahh, yet another Covid conspiracy theory. Can we find out who designed that multi entry card and see if they are in on it too? And what about the hospitals and ER folks? Surely they are profiting big time also, at least the ones that haven't been
    worked to mental and physical exhaustion. Let's call up Tucker Carlson and give him more fodder for his unfounded rumor and innuendo machine.

    Personally I'm just glad that semi-effective vaccines were developed and distributed in near record time, and that the majority of my friends and relatives are not anti-vaxers. The statistics show that at least some of the former anti-vaxers have
    finally gotten religion and signed up for shots.

    For the record, I am certainly not an "anti-vaxer" Both Mrs.E. and I >received the two-dose Moderna vaccine and also both received the booster.

    Heck, I even still wear a mask when I go to the supermarket or other
    place with a lot of people milling around.

    I just find it interesting that very early on in the vaccination program
    that someone or some group seemed to think additional shots may be
    required. Turns out they were.

    I have been saying that since day 1 of the vax program.
    BTW did you hear Fauci tell Lester Holt NBC News Thursday.

    "There will be breakthroughs, I can't imagine that the booster will
    protect you from initial infection".

    I have the whole question and answer recorded and when WEB.COM fixes
    my web site I will post it. Helluva message from that quack.
    "Get the shot but I can't imagine it will protect it will protect you
    from infection".
    Put that on a bumper sticker.

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  • From justan@21:1/5 to John H on Fri Dec 17 09:17:25 2021
    John H <jherring@cox.net> Wrote in message:r
    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 12:28:00 -0800 (PST),"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:>On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 12:25:29 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>> On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 07:12:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.
    wrote:>> > >> >This question popped into my head after I received >> >a covid "booster" shot. >> > >> >I got the first, two dose regiment vaccinations >> >last February and March. After the first >> >I was given the covid vaccination card that >>
    everyone gets with the first dose indicated >> >and then the second dose a month later. >> > >> >Back then, there was no talk of a "booster" being >> >contemplated. There were questions of how long >> >the vaccine would remain effective, with most >> >
    experts saying at least a year. >> > >> >But, the covid card has room for *four* vaccine >> >records. The first two lines are for "Dose 1 and >> >Dose 2". The next two lines are reserved for "other". >> > >> >The card is not a record for other types of
    vaccinations >> >like flu. It's specifically for anti covid vaccinations. >> > >> >So, does this mean that even then, when covid vaccinations >> >first started, that it was anticipated that additional >> >shots or doses would be required? If so, the
    public >> >was never informed of this. >> > >> >Not sure I trust the big pharmaceutical companies. It >> >is very possible they anticipated a federal program >> >(i.e. - taxpayer funded) goldmine.>> I said when this whole thing started drug companies do
    not build this >> kind of infrastructure for a one shot deal. >> It was confirmed when they said "Don't laminate the card" after the >> second dose.>>===>>Ahh, yet another Covid conspiracy theory. Can we find out who designed that multi entry card and
    see if they are in on it too? And what about the hospitals and ER folks? Surely they are profiting big time also, at least the ones that haven't been worked to mental and physical exhaustion. Let's call up Tucker Carlson and give him more fodder for
    his unfounded rumor and innuendo machine.>>Personally I'm just glad that semi-effective vaccines were developed and distributed in near record time, and that the majority of my friends and relatives are not anti-vaxers. The statistics show that at least
    some of the former anti-vaxers have finally gotten religion and signed up for shots.Thank God for Trump!-- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.https://www.avg.com

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  • From John H@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 17 09:55:23 2021
    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 16:02:45 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
    wrote:

    On 12/13/2021 3:28 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 12:25:29 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>> On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 07:12:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com>
    wrote:

    This question popped into my head after I received
    a covid "booster" shot.

    I got the first, two dose regiment vaccinations
    last February and March. After the first
    I was given the covid vaccination card that
    everyone gets with the first dose indicated
    and then the second dose a month later.

    Back then, there was no talk of a "booster" being
    contemplated. There were questions of how long
    the vaccine would remain effective, with most
    experts saying at least a year.

    But, the covid card has room for *four* vaccine
    records. The first two lines are for "Dose 1 and
    Dose 2". The next two lines are reserved for "other".

    The card is not a record for other types of vaccinations
    like flu. It's specifically for anti covid vaccinations.

    So, does this mean that even then, when covid vaccinations
    first started, that it was anticipated that additional
    shots or doses would be required? If so, the public
    was never informed of this.

    Not sure I trust the big pharmaceutical companies. It
    is very possible they anticipated a federal program
    (i.e. - taxpayer funded) goldmine.
    I said when this whole thing started drug companies do not build this
    kind of infrastructure for a one shot deal.
    It was confirmed when they said "Don't laminate the card" after the
    second dose.

    ===

    Ahh, yet another Covid conspiracy theory. Can we find out who designed that multi entry card and see if they are in on it too? And what about the hospitals and ER folks? Surely they are profiting big time also, at least the ones that haven't been
    worked to mental and physical exhaustion. Let's call up Tucker Carlson and give him more fodder for his unfounded rumor and innuendo machine.

    Personally I'm just glad that semi-effective vaccines were developed and distributed in near record time, and that the majority of my friends and relatives are not anti-vaxers. The statistics show that at least some of the former anti-vaxers have
    finally gotten religion and signed up for shots.

    For the record, I am certainly not an "anti-vaxer" Both Mrs.E. and I >received the two-dose Moderna vaccine and also both received the booster.

    Heck, I even still wear a mask when I go to the supermarket or other
    place with a lot of people milling around.

    I just find it interesting that very early on in the vaccination program
    that someone or some group seemed to think additional shots may be
    required. Turns out they were.

    Having spent many years as a government employee, I think I could make
    a good guess as to why the extra lines are there.

    The card was probably designed by some underling at the directions of
    his boss. After meeting all the requirements of his boss, the
    underling was left with some extra space at the bottom of the card.
    What would you have done, left it blank or filled it with something?

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  • From Mr. Luddite@21:1/5 to John H on Fri Dec 17 12:13:30 2021
    On 12/17/2021 9:55 AM, John H wrote:
    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 16:02:45 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
    wrote:

    On 12/13/2021 3:28 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 12:25:29 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>> On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 07:12:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com>
    wrote:

    This question popped into my head after I received
    a covid "booster" shot.

    I got the first, two dose regiment vaccinations
    last February and March. After the first
    I was given the covid vaccination card that
    everyone gets with the first dose indicated
    and then the second dose a month later.

    Back then, there was no talk of a "booster" being
    contemplated. There were questions of how long
    the vaccine would remain effective, with most
    experts saying at least a year.

    But, the covid card has room for *four* vaccine
    records. The first two lines are for "Dose 1 and
    Dose 2". The next two lines are reserved for "other".

    The card is not a record for other types of vaccinations
    like flu. It's specifically for anti covid vaccinations.

    So, does this mean that even then, when covid vaccinations
    first started, that it was anticipated that additional
    shots or doses would be required? If so, the public
    was never informed of this.

    Not sure I trust the big pharmaceutical companies. It
    is very possible they anticipated a federal program
    (i.e. - taxpayer funded) goldmine.
    I said when this whole thing started drug companies do not build this
    kind of infrastructure for a one shot deal.
    It was confirmed when they said "Don't laminate the card" after the
    second dose.

    ===

    Ahh, yet another Covid conspiracy theory. Can we find out who designed that multi entry card and see if they are in on it too? And what about the hospitals and ER folks? Surely they are profiting big time also, at least the ones that haven't been
    worked to mental and physical exhaustion. Let's call up Tucker Carlson and give him more fodder for his unfounded rumor and innuendo machine.

    Personally I'm just glad that semi-effective vaccines were developed and distributed in near record time, and that the majority of my friends and relatives are not anti-vaxers. The statistics show that at least some of the former anti-vaxers have
    finally gotten religion and signed up for shots.

    For the record, I am certainly not an "anti-vaxer" Both Mrs.E. and I
    received the two-dose Moderna vaccine and also both received the booster.

    Heck, I even still wear a mask when I go to the supermarket or other
    place with a lot of people milling around.

    I just find it interesting that very early on in the vaccination program
    that someone or some group seemed to think additional shots may be
    required. Turns out they were.

    Having spent many years as a government employee, I think I could make
    a good guess as to why the extra lines are there.

    The card was probably designed by some underling at the directions of
    his boss. After meeting all the requirements of his boss, the
    underling was left with some extra space at the bottom of the card.
    What would you have done, left it blank or filled it with something?



    I don't know. "Other" seems a little ambiguous.
    .

    Maybe:

    "For Future Use"

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  • From Mr Robot@21:1/5 to John H on Mon Dec 20 13:31:52 2021
    On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 17:52:43 -0500, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 12:28:00 -0800 (PST),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 12:25:29 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 07:12:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com>
    wrote:

    This question popped into my head after I received
    a covid "booster" shot.

    I got the first, two dose regiment vaccinations
    last February and March. After the first
    I was given the covid vaccination card that
    everyone gets with the first dose indicated
    and then the second dose a month later.

    Back then, there was no talk of a "booster" being
    contemplated. There were questions of how long
    the vaccine would remain effective, with most
    experts saying at least a year.

    But, the covid card has room for *four* vaccine
    records. The first two lines are for "Dose 1 and
    Dose 2". The next two lines are reserved for "other".

    The card is not a record for other types of vaccinations
    like flu. It's specifically for anti covid vaccinations.

    So, does this mean that even then, when covid vaccinations
    first started, that it was anticipated that additional
    shots or doses would be required? If so, the public
    was never informed of this.

    Not sure I trust the big pharmaceutical companies. It
    is very possible they anticipated a federal program
    (i.e. - taxpayer funded) goldmine.
    I said when this whole thing started drug companies do not build this
    kind of infrastructure for a one shot deal.
    It was confirmed when they said "Don't laminate the card" after the
    second dose.

    ===

    Ahh, yet another Covid conspiracy theory. Can we find out who designed that multi entry card and see if they are in on it too? And what about the hospitals and ER folks? Surely they are profiting big time also, at least the ones that haven't been
    worked to mental and physical exhaustion. Let's call up Tucker Carlson and give him more fodder for his unfounded rumor and innuendo machine.

    Personally I'm just glad that semi-effective vaccines were developed and distributed in near record time, and that the majority of my friends and relatives are not anti-vaxers. The statistics show that at least some of the former anti-vaxers have
    finally gotten religion and signed up for shots.

    Thank God for Trump!

    Yeah, sitting on his ass really works for you, because that's what you
    do. Fuck off asshole.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John H@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 22 07:41:32 2021
    On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 12:13:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
    wrote:

    On 12/17/2021 9:55 AM, John H wrote:
    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 16:02:45 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
    wrote:

    On 12/13/2021 3:28 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 12:25:29 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 07:12:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com> >>>>> wrote:

    This question popped into my head after I received
    a covid "booster" shot.

    I got the first, two dose regiment vaccinations
    last February and March. After the first
    I was given the covid vaccination card that
    everyone gets with the first dose indicated
    and then the second dose a month later.

    Back then, there was no talk of a "booster" being
    contemplated. There were questions of how long
    the vaccine would remain effective, with most
    experts saying at least a year.

    But, the covid card has room for *four* vaccine
    records. The first two lines are for "Dose 1 and
    Dose 2". The next two lines are reserved for "other".

    The card is not a record for other types of vaccinations
    like flu. It's specifically for anti covid vaccinations.

    So, does this mean that even then, when covid vaccinations
    first started, that it was anticipated that additional
    shots or doses would be required? If so, the public
    was never informed of this.

    Not sure I trust the big pharmaceutical companies. It
    is very possible they anticipated a federal program
    (i.e. - taxpayer funded) goldmine.
    I said when this whole thing started drug companies do not build this >>>>> kind of infrastructure for a one shot deal.
    It was confirmed when they said "Don't laminate the card" after the
    second dose.

    ===

    Ahh, yet another Covid conspiracy theory. Can we find out who designed that multi entry card and see if they are in on it too? And what about the hospitals and ER folks? Surely they are profiting big time also, at least the ones that haven't
    been worked to mental and physical exhaustion. Let's call up Tucker Carlson and give him more fodder for his unfounded rumor and innuendo machine.

    Personally I'm just glad that semi-effective vaccines were developed and distributed in near record time, and that the majority of my friends and relatives are not anti-vaxers. The statistics show that at least some of the former anti-vaxers have
    finally gotten religion and signed up for shots.

    For the record, I am certainly not an "anti-vaxer" Both Mrs.E. and I
    received the two-dose Moderna vaccine and also both received the booster. >>>
    Heck, I even still wear a mask when I go to the supermarket or other
    place with a lot of people milling around.

    I just find it interesting that very early on in the vaccination program >>> that someone or some group seemed to think additional shots may be
    required. Turns out they were.

    Having spent many years as a government employee, I think I could make
    a good guess as to why the extra lines are there.

    The card was probably designed by some underling at the directions of
    his boss. After meeting all the requirements of his boss, the
    underling was left with some extra space at the bottom of the card.
    What would you have done, left it blank or filled it with something?



    I don't know. "Other" seems a little ambiguous.
    .

    Maybe:

    "For Future Use"

    - signed, A. Fauci

    LOL!

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  • From Mr Robot@21:1/5 to John H on Thu Dec 23 15:34:08 2021
    On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 07:41:32 -0500, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:

    On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 12:13:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
    wrote:

    On 12/17/2021 9:55 AM, John H wrote:
    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 16:02:45 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
    wrote:

    On 12/13/2021 3:28 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 12:25:29 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>> On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 07:12:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com> >>>>>> wrote:

    This question popped into my head after I received
    a covid "booster" shot.

    I got the first, two dose regiment vaccinations
    last February and March. After the first
    I was given the covid vaccination card that
    everyone gets with the first dose indicated
    and then the second dose a month later.

    Back then, there was no talk of a "booster" being
    contemplated. There were questions of how long
    the vaccine would remain effective, with most
    experts saying at least a year.

    But, the covid card has room for *four* vaccine
    records. The first two lines are for "Dose 1 and
    Dose 2". The next two lines are reserved for "other".

    The card is not a record for other types of vaccinations
    like flu. It's specifically for anti covid vaccinations.

    So, does this mean that even then, when covid vaccinations
    first started, that it was anticipated that additional
    shots or doses would be required? If so, the public
    was never informed of this.

    Not sure I trust the big pharmaceutical companies. It
    is very possible they anticipated a federal program
    (i.e. - taxpayer funded) goldmine.
    I said when this whole thing started drug companies do not build this >>>>>> kind of infrastructure for a one shot deal.
    It was confirmed when they said "Don't laminate the card" after the >>>>>> second dose.

    ===

    Ahh, yet another Covid conspiracy theory. Can we find out who designed that multi entry card and see if they are in on it too? And what about the hospitals and ER folks? Surely they are profiting big time also, at least the ones that haven't
    been worked to mental and physical exhaustion. Let's call up Tucker Carlson and give him more fodder for his unfounded rumor and innuendo machine.

    Personally I'm just glad that semi-effective vaccines were developed and distributed in near record time, and that the majority of my friends and relatives are not anti-vaxers. The statistics show that at least some of the former anti-vaxers have
    finally gotten religion and signed up for shots.

    For the record, I am certainly not an "anti-vaxer" Both Mrs.E. and I
    received the two-dose Moderna vaccine and also both received the booster. >>>>
    Heck, I even still wear a mask when I go to the supermarket or other
    place with a lot of people milling around.

    I just find it interesting that very early on in the vaccination program >>>> that someone or some group seemed to think additional shots may be
    required. Turns out they were.

    Having spent many years as a government employee, I think I could make
    a good guess as to why the extra lines are there.

    The card was probably designed by some underling at the directions of
    his boss. After meeting all the requirements of his boss, the
    underling was left with some extra space at the bottom of the card.
    What would you have done, left it blank or filled it with something?



    I don't know. "Other" seems a little ambiguous.
    .

    Maybe:

    "For Future Use"

    - signed, A. Fauci

    LOL!

    Unlike your signature... I'm a dumbass.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John H@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 24 09:25:58 2021
    On Thu, 23 Dec 2021 15:34:08 -0800, Mr Robot <robot@mr_robot.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 07:41:32 -0500, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:

    On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 12:13:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> >>wrote:

    On 12/17/2021 9:55 AM, John H wrote:
    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 16:02:45 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> >>>> wrote:

    On 12/13/2021 3:28 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 12:25:29 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 07:12:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com> >>>>>>> wrote:

    This question popped into my head after I received
    a covid "booster" shot.

    I got the first, two dose regiment vaccinations
    last February and March. After the first
    I was given the covid vaccination card that
    everyone gets with the first dose indicated
    and then the second dose a month later.

    Back then, there was no talk of a "booster" being
    contemplated. There were questions of how long
    the vaccine would remain effective, with most
    experts saying at least a year.

    But, the covid card has room for *four* vaccine
    records. The first two lines are for "Dose 1 and
    Dose 2". The next two lines are reserved for "other".

    The card is not a record for other types of vaccinations
    like flu. It's specifically for anti covid vaccinations.

    So, does this mean that even then, when covid vaccinations
    first started, that it was anticipated that additional
    shots or doses would be required? If so, the public
    was never informed of this.

    Not sure I trust the big pharmaceutical companies. It
    is very possible they anticipated a federal program
    (i.e. - taxpayer funded) goldmine.
    I said when this whole thing started drug companies do not build this >>>>>>> kind of infrastructure for a one shot deal.
    It was confirmed when they said "Don't laminate the card" after the >>>>>>> second dose.

    ===

    Ahh, yet another Covid conspiracy theory. Can we find out who designed that multi entry card and see if they are in on it too? And what about the hospitals and ER folks? Surely they are profiting big time also, at least the ones that haven't
    been worked to mental and physical exhaustion. Let's call up Tucker Carlson and give him more fodder for his unfounded rumor and innuendo machine.

    Personally I'm just glad that semi-effective vaccines were developed and distributed in near record time, and that the majority of my friends and relatives are not anti-vaxers. The statistics show that at least some of the former anti-vaxers have
    finally gotten religion and signed up for shots.

    For the record, I am certainly not an "anti-vaxer" Both Mrs.E. and I >>>>> received the two-dose Moderna vaccine and also both received the booster. >>>>>
    Heck, I even still wear a mask when I go to the supermarket or other >>>>> place with a lot of people milling around.

    I just find it interesting that very early on in the vaccination program >>>>> that someone or some group seemed to think additional shots may be
    required. Turns out they were.

    Having spent many years as a government employee, I think I could make >>>> a good guess as to why the extra lines are there.

    The card was probably designed by some underling at the directions of
    his boss. After meeting all the requirements of his boss, the
    underling was left with some extra space at the bottom of the card.
    What would you have done, left it blank or filled it with something?



    I don't know. "Other" seems a little ambiguous.
    .

    Maybe:

    "For Future Use"

    - signed, A. Fauci

    LOL!

    Unlike your signature... I'm a dumbass.

    Yes, you seem to be.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mr. Luddite@21:1/5 to John H on Fri Dec 24 11:08:49 2021
    On 12/24/2021 9:25 AM, John H wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Dec 2021 15:34:08 -0800, Mr Robot <robot@mr_robot.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 07:41:32 -0500, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:

    On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 12:13:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
    wrote:

    On 12/17/2021 9:55 AM, John H wrote:
    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 16:02:45 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> >>>>> wrote:

    On 12/13/2021 3:28 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 12:25:29 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 07:12:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:

    This question popped into my head after I received
    a covid "booster" shot.

    I got the first, two dose regiment vaccinations
    last February and March. After the first
    I was given the covid vaccination card that
    everyone gets with the first dose indicated
    and then the second dose a month later.

    Back then, there was no talk of a "booster" being
    contemplated. There were questions of how long
    the vaccine would remain effective, with most
    experts saying at least a year.

    But, the covid card has room for *four* vaccine
    records. The first two lines are for "Dose 1 and
    Dose 2". The next two lines are reserved for "other".

    The card is not a record for other types of vaccinations
    like flu. It's specifically for anti covid vaccinations.

    So, does this mean that even then, when covid vaccinations
    first started, that it was anticipated that additional
    shots or doses would be required? If so, the public
    was never informed of this.

    Not sure I trust the big pharmaceutical companies. It
    is very possible they anticipated a federal program
    (i.e. - taxpayer funded) goldmine.
    I said when this whole thing started drug companies do not build this >>>>>>>> kind of infrastructure for a one shot deal.
    It was confirmed when they said "Don't laminate the card" after the >>>>>>>> second dose.

    ===

    Ahh, yet another Covid conspiracy theory. Can we find out who designed that multi entry card and see if they are in on it too? And what about the hospitals and ER folks? Surely they are profiting big time also, at least the ones that haven't
    been worked to mental and physical exhaustion. Let's call up Tucker Carlson and give him more fodder for his unfounded rumor and innuendo machine.

    Personally I'm just glad that semi-effective vaccines were developed and distributed in near record time, and that the majority of my friends and relatives are not anti-vaxers. The statistics show that at least some of the former anti-vaxers
    have finally gotten religion and signed up for shots.

    For the record, I am certainly not an "anti-vaxer" Both Mrs.E. and I >>>>>> received the two-dose Moderna vaccine and also both received the booster.

    Heck, I even still wear a mask when I go to the supermarket or other >>>>>> place with a lot of people milling around.

    I just find it interesting that very early on in the vaccination program >>>>>> that someone or some group seemed to think additional shots may be >>>>>> required. Turns out they were.

    Having spent many years as a government employee, I think I could make >>>>> a good guess as to why the extra lines are there.

    The card was probably designed by some underling at the directions of >>>>> his boss. After meeting all the requirements of his boss, the
    underling was left with some extra space at the bottom of the card.
    What would you have done, left it blank or filled it with something? >>>>>


    I don't know. "Other" seems a little ambiguous.
    .

    Maybe:

    "For Future Use"

    - signed, A. Fauci

    LOL!


    Unlike your signature... I'm a dumbass.


    Yes, you seem to be.


    Confession is good for the soul but we already knew that.



    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
    https://www.avg.com

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  • From Mr Robot@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 24 15:46:42 2021
    On Fri, 24 Dec 2021 11:08:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
    wrote:

    On 12/24/2021 9:25 AM, John H wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Dec 2021 15:34:08 -0800, Mr Robot <robot@mr_robot.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 07:41:32 -0500, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:

    On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 12:13:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> >>>> wrote:

    On 12/17/2021 9:55 AM, John H wrote:
    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 16:02:45 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> >>>>>> wrote:

    On 12/13/2021 3:28 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 12:25:29 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 07:12:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:

    This question popped into my head after I received
    a covid "booster" shot.

    I got the first, two dose regiment vaccinations
    last February and March. After the first
    I was given the covid vaccination card that
    everyone gets with the first dose indicated
    and then the second dose a month later.

    Back then, there was no talk of a "booster" being
    contemplated. There were questions of how long
    the vaccine would remain effective, with most
    experts saying at least a year.

    But, the covid card has room for *four* vaccine
    records. The first two lines are for "Dose 1 and
    Dose 2". The next two lines are reserved for "other".

    The card is not a record for other types of vaccinations
    like flu. It's specifically for anti covid vaccinations.

    So, does this mean that even then, when covid vaccinations >>>>>>>>>> first started, that it was anticipated that additional
    shots or doses would be required? If so, the public
    was never informed of this.

    Not sure I trust the big pharmaceutical companies. It
    is very possible they anticipated a federal program
    (i.e. - taxpayer funded) goldmine.
    I said when this whole thing started drug companies do not build this >>>>>>>>> kind of infrastructure for a one shot deal.
    It was confirmed when they said "Don't laminate the card" after the >>>>>>>>> second dose.

    ===

    Ahh, yet another Covid conspiracy theory. Can we find out who designed that multi entry card and see if they are in on it too? And what about the hospitals and ER folks? Surely they are profiting big time also, at least the ones that haven't
    been worked to mental and physical exhaustion. Let's call up Tucker Carlson and give him more fodder for his unfounded rumor and innuendo machine.

    Personally I'm just glad that semi-effective vaccines were developed and distributed in near record time, and that the majority of my friends and relatives are not anti-vaxers. The statistics show that at least some of the former anti-vaxers
    have finally gotten religion and signed up for shots.

    For the record, I am certainly not an "anti-vaxer" Both Mrs.E. and I >>>>>>> received the two-dose Moderna vaccine and also both received the booster.

    Heck, I even still wear a mask when I go to the supermarket or other >>>>>>> place with a lot of people milling around.

    I just find it interesting that very early on in the vaccination program
    that someone or some group seemed to think additional shots may be >>>>>>> required. Turns out they were.

    Having spent many years as a government employee, I think I could make >>>>>> a good guess as to why the extra lines are there.

    The card was probably designed by some underling at the directions of >>>>>> his boss. After meeting all the requirements of his boss, the
    underling was left with some extra space at the bottom of the card. >>>>>> What would you have done, left it blank or filled it with something? >>>>>>


    I don't know. "Other" seems a little ambiguous.
    .

    Maybe:

    "For Future Use"

    - signed, A. Fauci

    LOL!


    Unlike your signature... I'm a dumbass.


    Yes, you seem to be.


    Confession is good for the soul but we already knew that.

    Says the guy without one..

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mr Robot@21:1/5 to John H on Fri Dec 24 15:46:13 2021
    On Fri, 24 Dec 2021 09:25:58 -0500, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:

    On Thu, 23 Dec 2021 15:34:08 -0800, Mr Robot <robot@mr_robot.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 07:41:32 -0500, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:

    On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 12:13:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> >>>wrote:

    On 12/17/2021 9:55 AM, John H wrote:
    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 16:02:45 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> >>>>> wrote:

    On 12/13/2021 3:28 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 12:25:29 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 07:12:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:

    This question popped into my head after I received
    a covid "booster" shot.

    I got the first, two dose regiment vaccinations
    last February and March. After the first
    I was given the covid vaccination card that
    everyone gets with the first dose indicated
    and then the second dose a month later.

    Back then, there was no talk of a "booster" being
    contemplated. There were questions of how long
    the vaccine would remain effective, with most
    experts saying at least a year.

    But, the covid card has room for *four* vaccine
    records. The first two lines are for "Dose 1 and
    Dose 2". The next two lines are reserved for "other".

    The card is not a record for other types of vaccinations
    like flu. It's specifically for anti covid vaccinations.

    So, does this mean that even then, when covid vaccinations
    first started, that it was anticipated that additional
    shots or doses would be required? If so, the public
    was never informed of this.

    Not sure I trust the big pharmaceutical companies. It
    is very possible they anticipated a federal program
    (i.e. - taxpayer funded) goldmine.
    I said when this whole thing started drug companies do not build this >>>>>>>> kind of infrastructure for a one shot deal.
    It was confirmed when they said "Don't laminate the card" after the >>>>>>>> second dose.

    ===

    Ahh, yet another Covid conspiracy theory. Can we find out who designed that multi entry card and see if they are in on it too? And what about the hospitals and ER folks? Surely they are profiting big time also, at least the ones that haven't
    been worked to mental and physical exhaustion. Let's call up Tucker Carlson and give him more fodder for his unfounded rumor and innuendo machine.

    Personally I'm just glad that semi-effective vaccines were developed and distributed in near record time, and that the majority of my friends and relatives are not anti-vaxers. The statistics show that at least some of the former anti-vaxers
    have finally gotten religion and signed up for shots.

    For the record, I am certainly not an "anti-vaxer" Both Mrs.E. and I >>>>>> received the two-dose Moderna vaccine and also both received the booster.

    Heck, I even still wear a mask when I go to the supermarket or other >>>>>> place with a lot of people milling around.

    I just find it interesting that very early on in the vaccination program >>>>>> that someone or some group seemed to think additional shots may be >>>>>> required. Turns out they were.

    Having spent many years as a government employee, I think I could make >>>>> a good guess as to why the extra lines are there.

    The card was probably designed by some underling at the directions of >>>>> his boss. After meeting all the requirements of his boss, the
    underling was left with some extra space at the bottom of the card.
    What would you have done, left it blank or filled it with something? >>>>>


    I don't know. "Other" seems a little ambiguous.
    .

    Maybe:

    "For Future Use"

    - signed, A. Fauci

    LOL!

    Unlike your signature... I'm a dumbass.

    Yes, you seem to be.

    Does it make you hard Dumbass?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)