We may no longer have RBP, but still...

I hope all you lurking former RBP'ers remain well during these strange and disturbing times.

Paddle on.

--
Melissa

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On 2020-04-30, Melissa <melissaREMOVE_THIS@willkayakforfood.net> wrote:

We may no longer have RBP, but still...

I hope all you lurking former RBP'ers remain well during these strange and disturbing times.

Paddle on.

Yes, these are surreal times. We're fine and careful here in
Shreveport.

...Edwin

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Melissa wrote:

We may no longer have RBP, but still...

I hope all you lurking former RBP'ers remain well during these
strange and disturbing times.

Paddle on.

--
Melissa

What better way to stay well than go on a sea kayaking tour and abandon society.
--
<Bill>

Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska

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Hello Bill, you wrote:

<Bill>

Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska

I'm in Seward. We do live in a paddling paradise, at least! :)

--
"The ridiculous git has always been a lying, racist, misogynist
sack-o-shit vulgarian grifter without a humane bone in his body."

~ Melissa, describing the 45th President of The United States of
America, Donald J. Trump

"The most powerful country in the world is being run by a sundowning
demagogue whose oceanic ignorance is matched only by his gargantuan
ego."

~ Michelle Goldberg -- opinion writer for the New York Times

"The smaller my footprint, the bigger the world around me becomes, and
the more filled with awe is my life."

~ Melissa

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Hello again, I wrote:

[snip]

Oops! I accidentally used a signature file I use when posting in a
political newsgroup. Sorry about that! :)

--
Melissa

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On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 6:56:47 AM UTC-5, Melissa wrote:

We may no longer have RBP, but still...

I hope all you lurking former RBP'ers remain well during these strange and disturbing times.

Paddle on.

--
Melissa

So good to see an actual boater's post rather than just the plethora of SPAM!

And yes these are strange and disturbing times, but we humans did it! Via overpopulation, our industries and our wanton use of Fossil Fuels. We are now in the midst of the 6th Extinction on Planet Earth, the last being caused by that 6 mile wide meteor
that went meteorite and consequently caused the extinction of the Dinosaurs 65 million years ago.

I don't boat much anymore as I now primarily drive a 100% electric Nissan Leaf. And I divested my house's use of Fossil Fuels too, and had Sp[ire Gas come out and take the gas meter out of this house, so me and my 1930's house are 100% electric now.

John Kuthe...

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On 2020-04-30, Melissa <melissaREMOVE_THIS@willkayakforfood.net> wrote:

Oops! I accidentally used a signature file I use when posting in a
political newsgroup. Sorry about that! :)

I almost did the same thing. Same sentiments as you. ha

It seems from years past reading your posts on the group, you are a
musician and play a stringed instrument, viola perhaps? Also think you
might have drawn some very nice ascii art in the posts? I'm an
organist, mostly doing substitute work for a few churches now.

Seward is a wonderful place. Was there many years ago after flying my
plane up to Alaska with a friend. We drove down from Anchorage to
Seward (because of early fog) and took one of the fjord tours. Never
forget that beautiful tour and all the wildlife we saw on it.

...Edwin

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Melissa wrote:

Hello Bill, you wrote:

<Bill>

Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska

I'm in Seward. We do live in a paddling paradise, at least! :)

--
"The ridiculous git has always been a lying, racist, misogynist
sack-o-shit vulgarian grifter without a humane bone in his body."

~ Melissa, describing the 45th President of The United States of
America, Donald J. Trump

"The most powerful country in the world is being run by a sundowning demagogue whose oceanic ignorance is matched only by his gargantuan
ego."

~ Michelle Goldberg -- opinion writer for the New York Times

"The smaller my footprint, the bigger the world around me becomes, and
the more filled with awe is my life."

~ Melissa

I have not objection to your tag lines. Election in 6 months. My favorite place to go is Bear Glacier. Sometimes charter other times paddle from
Lowel Point. That Glacier is meltiing back quickly. Based on GPS tracks it looks like about 700 feet to 800 feet a year. Plannning the Kachemak Bay
Water Trail for June. Hoping for no fires, smoke, and excessive heat for
this summer.
--
<Bill>

Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska

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Hello Chicago Paddling-Fishing, you wrote:

Tell us how you really feel?

Back in the '80s and '90s, when I lived in NYC, I actually knew "The
Donald". Personally. That's how I got to know who, and what he is. He
hasn't changed. A truly despicable human being.

Perhaps if he finally received a proper psychological diagnosis, confirming
my assessment that he's a psychopathic narcissist, comprehensive ignoramus,
and near-peerless idiot (amongst many other unhappy and severely distasteful "qualities"), I might at least consider giving him a bit of a break -- due
to his obviously severe mental illness.

--
"The ridiculous git has always been a lying, racist, misogynist
sack-o-shit vulgarian grifter without a humane bone in his body."

~ Melissa, describing the 45th President of The United States of
America, Donald J. Trump

"The most powerful country in the world is being run by a sundowning
demagogue whose oceanic ignorance is matched only by his gargantuan
ego."

~ Michelle Goldberg -- opinion writer for the New York Times

"The smaller my footprint, the bigger the world around me becomes, and
the more filled with awe is my life."

~ Melissa

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John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 6:56:47 AM UTC-5, Melissa wrote:

We may no longer have RBP, but still...

I hope all you lurking former RBP'ers remain well during these strange and >> disturbing times.

Paddle on.

--
Melissa

So good to see an actual boater's post rather than just the plethora of SPAM!

And yes these are strange and disturbing times, but we humans did it! Via overpopulation, our industries and our wanton use of Fossil Fuels. We are now in the midst of the 6th Extinction on Planet Earth, the last being caused by that 6 mile wide meteor

that went meteorite and consequently caused the extinction of the Dinosaurs 65 million years ago.

I don't boat much anymore as I now primarily drive a 100% electric Nissan Leaf. And I divested my house's use of Fossil Fuels too, and had Sp[ire Gas come out and take the gas meter out of this house, so me and my 1930's house are 100% electric now.

Hi John,

You like the Leaf? I've heard the batteries drop over time. I drive a Ford C-Max plugin and if I'm careful, I can avoid buying gas for months. I got
over 4,400 miles between May and September last year on electric only. Got
a quote for solar to do 80% of my power but its still a tad high so not
yet (thought it would be even better to charge the car with free power).

--
John Nelson -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chicago Area Paddling/Fishing Page
http://www.chicagopaddling.org http://www.chicagofishing.org
(A Non-Commercial Web Site: No Sponsors, No Paid Ads and Nothing to Sell)

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Melissa <melissaREMOVE_THIS@willkayakforfood.net> wrote:

Hello Bill, you wrote:

<Bill>

Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska

I'm in Seward. We do live in a paddling paradise, at least! :)

--
"The ridiculous git has always been a lying, racist, misogynist
sack-o-shit vulgarian grifter without a humane bone in his body."

~ Melissa, describing the 45th President of The United States of
America, Donald J. Trump

"The most powerful country in the world is being run by a sundowning >demagogue whose oceanic ignorance is matched only by his gargantuan
ego."

~ Michelle Goldberg -- opinion writer for the New York Times

"The smaller my footprint, the bigger the world around me becomes, and
the more filled with awe is my life."

Tell us how you really feel?

--
John Nelson -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chicago Area Paddling/Fishing Page
http://www.chicagopaddling.org http://www.chicagofishing.org
(A Non-Commercial Web Site: No Sponsors, No Paid Ads and Nothing to Sell)

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Hello Edwin, you wrote:

It seems from years past reading your posts on the group, you are a
musician and play a stringed instrument, viola perhaps?

'Cellist. With a specialty in Baroque period instruments and performance practices.

Also think you might have drawn some very nice ascii art in the posts?

No, that would have been someone else.

I may have posted something like the following now and again (an excerpt
from my journal):

"I went paddling today, and looked around at the familiar scenery. Each
time something came into view, my mind presented me with a word. Driftwood; jellyfish; wave; seal; current; eagle; cat's paw, and so on. Then there was
the bird I didn't know the name of, and I thought about all the words in my mind, and about the missing word. I liked the missing word best of all.
Once again I remember...it's time to forget.

Even the loveliest of words can only dance around the truth of
something...or at best, walk us to the door and let us go. The irony of
writing these very words does not escape me as I dance around the truth of
even this moment.

Here I am, trying to write about how I love it when the words fall away,
and perception once again joins breathing as an unspoken act of nature.

I went paddling today, and it took me, like so many times before, to where nothing has a name."

I'm an organist, mostly doing substitute work for a few churches now.

Wonderful! :) When I was very young, I asked too many of the wrong
questions in Sunday School (downstairs at the church my parents took us
to), so they kicked me out, and sent me upstairs to play my 'cello in the services instead. :)

--
Melissa

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Hello John, you wrote:

I don't boat much anymore as I now primarily drive a 100% electric Nissan Leaf. And I divested my house's use of Fossil Fuels too, and had Sp[ire
Gas come out and take the gas meter out of this house, so me and my
1930's house are 100% electric now.

I commend you on your efforts. While those are all worthy, and certainly do decrease the amount of direct pollution you put into your local environment (always a good thing), unfortunately, most of our electricity still comes
from dirty sources. Even major hydroelectric dam systems cause massive, long-term environmental damage in their local environments.

As yet, and perhaps forever, it's impossible for any of us to be "perfect"
(as I type away on this lovely new laptop with all its bells and whistles developed and produced by our dirty research, development, and distribution chains), but some of us do what we can, and continue to strive for something better, cleaner.

As you also know--having encountered me on another, non-paddling-related site--I'm passionate about another electricity-sucking activity. Damn. It's hard to be perfect when some of the things we love have their continued downsides.

I'm trying to get myself as off-grid as possible, but again, if I still
resist going all the way back to hunter-gatherer status, I will remain eminently imperfect. Still, there is much we can do, and I'm all for doing
all we can.

My "solution" to the paddling dilemma has always been to "live where I
paddle". When I was in Washington state (where I discovered my passion for ocean paddling), I moved to an oceanfront house, so I could walk out my
door, and launch on the beach. Now I live in Seward, a "paddling paradise"
I came to quite intentionally.

At least you didn't say "I *never* paddle anymore". That would be truly
sad, and I wouldn't want you to suffer such a fate.

--
"The ridiculous git has always been a lying, racist, misogynist
sack-o-shit vulgarian grifter without a humane bone in his body."

~ Melissa, describing the 45th President of The United States of
America, Donald J. Trump

"The most powerful country in the world is being run by a sundowning
demagogue whose oceanic ignorance is matched only by his gargantuan
ego."

~ Michelle Goldberg -- opinion writer for the New York Times

"The smaller my footprint, the bigger the world around me becomes, and
the more filled with awe is my life."

~ Melissa

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On 2020-05-02, Melissa <melissaREMOVE_THIS@willkayakforfood.net> wrote:

Hello Edwin, you wrote:

'Cellist. With a specialty in Baroque period instruments and performance practices.

Now I remember.

I may have posted something like the following now and again (an excerpt
from my journal):

"I went paddling today, and looked around at the familiar scenery. Each

Yes, and add to that "Random thoughts in search of a navigator" and
"Sings my heart", both of which I also have. Some of the posts were
stellar from the group and I compiled a notebook of many of them. And
do you remember those wonderful posts by Bob Carter, the Presbyterian
minister in Alaska, of his kayak trips? I have quite a few of those.
His prose flowed like poetry.

Wonderful! :) When I was very young, I asked too many of the wrong
questions in Sunday School (downstairs at the church my parents took us
to), so they kicked me out, and sent me upstairs to play my 'cello in the

Sounds like something I would do! ha

...Edwin
____________________________________________________________
"Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes
turned skyward, for there you have been, there you long to
return."-da Vinci http://kd5zlb.org

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Hello Edwin, you wrote:

And do you remember those wonderful posts by Bob Carter, the Presbyterian minister in Alaska, of his kayak trips? I have quite a few of those. His prose flowed like poetry.

Yes, I always enjoyed his posts. That was all on the "Paddlewise" email
list though, not RBP. Here in RBP, I always looked forward to Ken
Strickland's stories.

Just the other day, I was trying to find "Pete's Whitewater" page, where
Ken's stories were usually archived, but haven't yet been able to relocate
it.

--
"The ridiculous git has always been a lying, racist, misogynist
sack-o-shit vulgarian grifter without a humane bone in his body."

~ Melissa, describing the 45th President of The United States of
America, Donald J. Trump

"The most powerful country in the world is being run by a sundowning
demagogue whose oceanic ignorance is matched only by his gargantuan
ego."

~ Michelle Goldberg -- opinion writer for the New York Times

"The smaller my footprint, the bigger the world around me becomes, and
the more filled with awe is my life."

~ Melissa

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Edwin Johnson <edwinljohnson@bellsouth.net> wrote:

On 2020-05-02, Melissa <melissaREMOVE_THIS@willkayakforfood.net> wrote:

Hello Edwin, you wrote:

'Cellist. With a specialty in Baroque period instruments and performance
practices.

Now I remember.

I may have posted something like the following now and again (an excerpt
from my journal):

"I went paddling today, and looked around at the familiar scenery. Each

Yes, and add to that "Random thoughts in search of a navigator" and
"Sings my heart", both of which I also have. Some of the posts were
stellar from the group and I compiled a notebook of many of them. And
do you remember those wonderful posts by Bob Carter, the Presbyterian >minister in Alaska, of his kayak trips? I have quite a few of those.
His prose flowed like poetry.

Was he from Fairbanks?

Someone from a paddling club in Fairbanks decades ago asked for permission
to publish a few postings I did here in a paddling club newsletter there.

--
John Nelson -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chicago Area Paddling/Fishing Page
http://www.chicagopaddling.org http://www.chicagofishing.org
(A Non-Commercial Web Site: No Sponsors, No Paid Ads and Nothing to Sell)

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Hello John, you asked:

Was he from Fairbanks?

Sitka.

--
Melissa

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On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 3:06:36 AM UTC-5, Melissa wrote:

Hello Chicago Paddling-Fishing, you wrote:

Tell us how you really feel?

Back in the '80s and '90s, when I lived in NYC, I actually knew "The
Donald". Personally. That's how I got to know who, and what he is. He hasn't changed. A truly despicable human being.

Perhaps if he finally received a proper psychological diagnosis, confirming my assessment that he's a psychopathic narcissist, comprehensive ignoramus, and near-peerless idiot (amongst many other unhappy and severely distasteful "qualities"), I might at least consider giving him a bit of a break -- due
to his obviously severe mental illness.

...

I'm an RN and I pegged The Donald as narcissistic personality disorder, and I heard of a MD psychiatrist appending the word "malignant" to it too! Because he is!

John Kuthe...

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On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 2:39:45 AM UTC-5, Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:

John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 6:56:47 AM UTC-5, Melissa wrote:

We may no longer have RBP, but still...

I hope all you lurking former RBP'ers remain well during these strange and >> disturbing times.

Paddle on.

--
Melissa

So good to see an actual boater's post rather than just the plethora of SPAM!

And yes these are strange and disturbing times, but we humans did it! Via overpopulation, our industries and our wanton use of Fossil Fuels. We are now in the midst of the 6th Extinction on Planet Earth, the last being caused by that 6 mile wide

meteor that went meteorite and consequently caused the extinction of the Dinosaurs 65 million years ago.

I don't boat much anymore as I now primarily drive a 100% electric Nissan Leaf. And I divested my house's use of Fossil Fuels too, and had Sp[ire Gas come out and take the gas meter out of this house, so me and my 1930's house are 100% electric now.

Hi John,

You like the Leaf? I've heard the batteries drop over time. I drive a Ford C-Max plugin and if I'm careful, I can avoid buying gas for months. I got over 4,400 miles between May and September last year on electric only. Got
a quote for solar to do 80% of my power but its still a tad high so not
yet (thought it would be even better to charge the car with free power).

Oh, I wish I had a zillion $$$ so I could get solar panels all over the detached 3 car garage I have. That MAY suffice to charge my Leaf. I had my electrician run a 240VAC line to the detached 3 car garage for L2 electric car charging for each of the 3
car spaces, even though mine is the only electric car in it so far. I'm looking towards OUR FUTURE when we STOP using so damned many FOSSIL FUELS which have and ARE causing Climate Change, and spelling our HUMAN CAUSED 6th Extinction on the planet! No
one of the previous 5 Extinctions were caused by ANY life forms on our planet, This one is, and WE HUMANS are the cause!

John Kuthe...

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Hello John, you wrote:

I'm an RN and I pegged The Donald as narcissistic personality disorder,
and I heard of a MD psychiatrist appending the word "malignant" to it
too! Because he is!

Indeed, he is. It is what happens when one is utterly bereft of both conscience and empathy.

What disturbs me just as much is the frightening "mini-me" phenomena his ascendancy to power and prominence has brought to light. Millions of our fellow citizens remain delirious, devoted followers and sycophants of the Orange Ogre.

Long after he's tossed from office (I hope), their idiocy will remain
amongst us -- procreating, and "educating" their spawn. The Zombie
Apocalypse has been unleashed, and there seems to be no vaccine.

--
Melissa

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On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 3:29:18 AM UTC-5, Melissa wrote:

Hello John, you wrote:

I'm an RN and I pegged The Donald as narcissistic personality disorder, and I heard of a MD psychiatrist appending the word "malignant" to it
too! Because he is!

Indeed, he is. It is what happens when one is utterly bereft of both conscience and empathy.

What disturbs me just as much is the frightening "mini-me" phenomena his ascendancy to power and prominence has brought to light. Millions of our fellow citizens remain delirious, devoted followers and sycophants of the Orange Ogre.

Long after he's tossed from office (I hope), their idiocy will remain
amongst us -- procreating, and "educating" their spawn. The Zombie Apocalypse has been unleashed, and there seems to be no vaccine.

--
Melissa

Right on Melissa. I just can't believe they (that many voters) actually fell for it!

Oh and my nephew Paul and his wife Kate and their two children just moved from PDX to Washington State, and they have a river/creek in their backyard. And my nephew bought a Tesla Model 3! :-) I can only imagine, I test drove a Tesla S and X's and they
scare the heck out of me!

And no, we have no vaccine for stupid, or evil, or both in combination which is what we apparently have as our POTUS.

John Kuthe...

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John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 2:39:45 AM UTC-5, Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote: >> John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 6:56:47 AM UTC-5, Melissa wrote:

We may no longer have RBP, but still...

I hope all you lurking former RBP'ers remain well during these strange and
disturbing times.

Paddle on.

--
Melissa

So good to see an actual boater's post rather than just the plethora of SPAM!

And yes these are strange and disturbing times, but we humans did it! Via overpopulation, our industries and our wanton use of Fossil Fuels. We are now in the midst of the 6th Extinction on Planet Earth, the last being caused by that 6 mile wide

meteor that went meteorite and consequently caused the extinction of the Dinosaurs 65 million years ago.

I don't boat much anymore as I now primarily drive a 100% electric Nissan Leaf. And I divested my house's use of Fossil Fuels too, and had Sp[ire Gas come out and take the gas meter out of this house, so me and my 1930's house are 100% electric now.

Hi John,

You like the Leaf? I've heard the batteries drop over time. I drive a Ford >> C-Max plugin and if I'm careful, I can avoid buying gas for months. I got >> over 4,400 miles between May and September last year on electric only. Got >> a quote for solar to do 80% of my power but its still a tad high so not
yet (thought it would be even better to charge the car with free power).

Oh, I wish I had a zillion $$$ so I could get solar panels all over the detached 3 car garage I have. That MAY suffice to charge my Leaf. I had my electrician run a 240VAC line to the detached 3 car garage for L2 electric car charging for each of the 3

car spaces, even though mine is the only electric car in it so far. I'm looking towards OUR FUTURE when we STOP using so damned many FOSSIL FUELS which have and ARE causing Climate Change, and spelling our HUMAN CAUSED 6th Extinction on the planet! No
one of the previous 5 Extinctions were caused by ANY life forms on our planet, This one is, and WE HUMANS are the cause!

Well, not sure about a zillion $$$'s. They wanted $20k to cover 80% of my electric bill on a 20 year second mortgage. I just upgraded to 200amp service so I can get a high speed charger in the garage (that upgrade was included
in the 20k price but prices for solar panels have gone up considerably in the last year because of the trade war with China).

--
John Nelson -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chicago Area Paddling/Fishing Page
http://www.chicagopaddling.org http://www.chicagofishing.org
(A Non-Commercial Web Site: No Sponsors, No Paid Ads and Nothing to Sell)

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On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 10:42:14 AM UTC-5, Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote: ...

Hi John,

You like the Leaf? I've heard the batteries drop over time. I drive a Ford
C-Max plugin and if I'm careful, I can avoid buying gas for months. I got >> over 4,400 miles between May and September last year on electric only. Got >> a quote for solar to do 80% of my power but its still a tad high so not >> yet (thought it would be even better to charge the car with free power).

Oh, I wish I had a zillion $$$ so I could get solar panels all over the detached 3 car garage I have. That MAY suffice to charge my Leaf. I had my electrician run a 240VAC line to the detached 3 car garage for L2 electric car charging for each of the

3 car spaces, even though mine is the only electric car in it so far. I'm looking towards OUR FUTURE when we STOP using so damned many FOSSIL FUELS which have and ARE causing Climate Change, and spelling our HUMAN CAUSED 6th Extinction on the planet! No
one of the previous 5 Extinctions were caused by ANY life forms on our planet, This one is, and WE HUMANS are the cause!

Well, not sure about a zillion $$$'s. They wanted $20k to cover 80% of my electric bill on a 20 year second mortgage. I just upgraded to 200amp service
so I can get a high speed charger in the garage (that upgrade was included
in the 20k price but prices for solar panels have gone up considerably in the
last year because of the trade war with China).

Yep, China knows which side their energy bread is buttered on! And China has zillions of $$ thanks to that evil corporation I call Malwart! "Mal" is in malignant, malevolent, etc and "Wart" as in...well, A WART!

Good on YOU! Sounds like you are preparing very properly for moving to a 100% electric car! Believe me, you will NOT regret not spending ANY $$ on gasoline anymore! You won't get the range you had on your Fart Burners but the savings in gasoline and the
acceleration will make up for some of that!

John Kuthe...

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