• Re: Biden and Another Flatt

    From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to cyclintom@gmail.com on Sat Jan 27 14:34:33 2024
    On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 13:42:08 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
    <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

    New Gatorskins with new innertubes and again another flat 25% into the ride today. Sounds to me like it is time for Flunky to tell us that he can get innertubes on-line from Amazon.

    I thought you had problems with slow leaks, not flattts?

    (Jan 16, 2024) <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/eAEXNTV6WKg/m/allyQpo4AgAJ>
    "I have four bikes down in the garage with flat tires and all of them
    are the slow leaks indicative of worn out car tires shedding wires.
    When I repair a pin hole flat the next ride is the same problem. One
    of the tubes I was repairing had six of these micro holes in it."

    Do you really believe that your punctures are from worn steel belted
    radial or bias ply car tires? There are a few problems with this
    theory. I've been driving for about 50 years and have only seen
    someone driving with an exposed steel belt twice and that was on heavy construction equipment. My limited experience working for a tire
    store in early college (about 1967) indicated that when the cord was
    exposed, the tire would soon go flat. I don't know the wire gauge
    used in tires. I don't think I could push such a thin wire through
    the bicycle tire tread or sidewall unless the tire was unusually thin.
    I suggest that you find a better amazing theory,


    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 27 14:51:21 2024
    On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 14:34:33 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    I don't know the wire gauge
    used in tires. I don't think I could push such a thin wire through
    the bicycle tire tread or sidewall unless the tire was unusually thin.

    <https://www.quora.com/In-practice-the-wires-in-car-and-truck-tyres-are-only-0-1-mm-diameter-but-are-wound-into-a-twisted-cord-with-diameter-of-around-2-mm-Why-as-in-why-a-cord-of-2mm-diameter-and-not-a-single-wire-with-diameter-of-2-mm>
    "In practice the wires in car (and truck) tyres are only 0.1 mm
    diameter, but are wound into a twisted cord with diameter of around 2
    mm."

    0.1mm dia is about #38 AWG which is very thin wire.

    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From zen cycle@21:1/5 to Tom Kunich on Sat Jan 27 19:31:47 2024
    On 1/27/2024 4:42 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
    New Gatorskins with new innertubes and again another flat 25% into the ride today. Sounds to me like it is time for Flunky to tell us that he can get innertubes on-line from Amazon.

    no, it's time for you to excrete yet another inane conspiracy theory
    about how you've been having bad luck lately. I know, how about george
    soros is aiming his jewish space lasers at the roads around san leandro, creating potholes which cause the exposed steel belts from tires to
    scatter wire fragments on the roads where you ride all time. In other
    words, tommy, George Soros is out to get you, you personally.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From zen cycle@21:1/5 to Tom Kunich on Sat Jan 27 21:26:17 2024
    On 1/27/2024 7:52 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
    On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 4:31:52 PM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
    On 1/27/2024 4:42 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
    New Gatorskins with new innertubes and again another flat 25% into the ride today. Sounds to me like it is time for Flunky to tell us that he can get innertubes on-line from Amazon.
    no, it's time for you to excrete yet another inane conspiracy theory
    about how you've been having bad luck lately. I know, how about george
    soros is aiming his jewish space lasers at the roads around san leandro,
    creating potholes which cause the exposed steel belts from tires to
    scatter wire fragments on the roads where you ride all time. In other
    words, tommy, George Soros is out to get you, you personally.

    Shouldn't you and Scharf be telling me how much income taxes I paid and how I should really be investing my money? You guys know so much that you have money rolling out of your ears. And as we all know H&R Block wouldn't know nearly as much as you or
    Scharf about filling out tax forms.

    no, dumbass, we don't know how much in taxes you paid, we just know it
    wasn't "zero" unless your income was so low that you didn't need to pay
    taxes.

    As usual, you lie to inflate your importance. No one knows who you are,
    and no one cares who you are. You'll die in even more obscurity than the shitstain

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 27 19:40:04 2024
    On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 09:08:46 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 16:52:01 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
    <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 4:31:52?PM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
    On 1/27/2024 4:42 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
    New Gatorskins with new innertubes and again another flat 25% into the ride today. Sounds to me like it is time for Flunky to tell us that he can get innertubes on-line from Amazon.
    no, it's time for you to excrete yet another inane conspiracy theory
    about how you've been having bad luck lately. I know, how about george
    soros is aiming his jewish space lasers at the roads around san leandro, >>> creating potholes which cause the exposed steel belts from tires to
    scatter wire fragments on the roads where you ride all time. In other
    words, tommy, George Soros is out to get you, you personally.

    Shouldn't you and Scharf be telling me how much income taxes I paid and how I should really be investing my money? You guys know so much that you have money rolling out of your ears. And as we all know H&R Block wouldn't know nearly as much as you or
    Scharf about filling out tax forms.

    Well Tommy, you told us a bit ago that you were making over $250,000 a
    year and now you are telling us you paid no taxes.

    So, logically H&R is some sort of miracle worker? Make a quarter
    million and pay no taxes?

    Or perhaps more likely scenario - Tommy K. is a lying piece of shit?

    Tom is lying but in a different area. He keeps talking about his
    Traditional and Roth IRAs. An IRA is tax deferred, not tax exempt. He
    can keep his Roth IRA until he dies, but his Traditional IRA needed to
    be withdrawn beginning at age 72. Tom is 79 years old, so he should
    have been paying taxes on his IRA withdrawals for at least the last 7
    years: <https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/plan-participant-employee/retirement-topics-required-minimum-distributions-rmds>
    There are ways to avoid paying taxes on his withdrawals, such as a
    QLAC but I haven't read anything from Tom the even hints that he knows
    about them: <https://finance.yahoo.com/news/avoid-paying-taxes-ira-withdrawals-202808379.html>


    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to Jeff Liebermann on Sun Jan 28 09:28:04 2024
    On 1/27/2024 4:51 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 14:34:33 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    I don't know the wire gauge
    used in tires. I don't think I could push such a thin wire through
    the bicycle tire tread or sidewall unless the tire was unusually thin.

    <https://www.quora.com/In-practice-the-wires-in-car-and-truck-tyres-are-only-0-1-mm-diameter-but-are-wound-into-a-twisted-cord-with-diameter-of-around-2-mm-Why-as-in-why-a-cord-of-2mm-diameter-and-not-a-single-wire-with-diameter-of-2-mm>
    "In practice the wires in car (and truck) tyres are only 0.1 mm
    diameter, but are wound into a twisted cord with diameter of around 2
    mm."

    0.1mm dia is about #38 AWG which is very thin wire.


    It is a thin wire and I have pulled them out of bicycle
    tires. More frequently than syringe needles or drywall screws:

    http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfromthepast/alexflat.jpg

    Less common than beer/liquor bottle shards.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to AMuzi on Sun Jan 28 10:46:54 2024
    On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 09:28:04 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 1/27/2024 4:51 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 14:34:33 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    I don't know the wire gauge
    used in tires. I don't think I could push such a thin wire through
    the bicycle tire tread or sidewall unless the tire was unusually thin.

    <https://www.quora.com/In-practice-the-wires-in-car-and-truck-tyres-are-only-0-1-mm-diameter-but-are-wound-into-a-twisted-cord-with-diameter-of-around-2-mm-Why-as-in-why-a-cord-of-2mm-diameter-and-not-a-single-wire-with-diameter-of-2-mm>
    "In practice the wires in car (and truck) tyres are only 0.1 mm
    diameter, but are wound into a twisted cord with diameter of around 2
    mm."

    0.1mm dia is about #38 AWG which is very thin wire.


    It is a thin wire and I have pulled them out of bicycle
    tires. More frequently than syringe needles or drywall screws:

    http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfromthepast/alexflat.jpg

    Less common than beer/liquor bottle shards.

    I had two flat tires from vehicle tire debris riding along US highway
    #1 in the Florida keys.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From zen cycle@21:1/5 to Tom Kunich on Sun Jan 28 11:32:40 2024
    On 1/28/2024 11:19 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
    On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 6:26:22 PM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
    On 1/27/2024 7:52 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
    On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 4:31:52 PM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
    On 1/27/2024 4:42 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
    New Gatorskins with new innertubes and again another flat 25% into the ride today. Sounds to me like it is time for Flunky to tell us that he can get innertubes on-line from Amazon.
    no, it's time for you to excrete yet another inane conspiracy theory
    about how you've been having bad luck lately. I know, how about george >>>> soros is aiming his jewish space lasers at the roads around san leandro, >>>> creating potholes which cause the exposed steel belts from tires to
    scatter wire fragments on the roads where you ride all time. In other
    words, tommy, George Soros is out to get you, you personally.

    Shouldn't you and Scharf be telling me how much income taxes I paid and how I should really be investing my money? You guys know so much that you have money rolling out of your ears. And as we all know H&R Block wouldn't know nearly as much as you or
    Scharf about filling out tax forms.
    no, dumbass, we don't know how much in taxes you paid, we just know it
    wasn't "zero" unless your income was so low that you didn't need to pay
    taxes.

    As usual, you lie to inflate your importance. No one knows who you are,
    and no one cares who you are. You'll die in even more obscurity than the
    shitstain

    Thanks for demonstrating your fear of your failure and jealousy of my success. You could almost be Krygowski but you would have to gain 50 points of IQ bringing you up to moron.

    you have no success to be jealous of

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to AMuzi on Sun Jan 28 10:24:55 2024
    On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 09:28:04 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 1/27/2024 4:51 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 14:34:33 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    I don't know the wire gauge
    used in tires. I don't think I could push such a thin wire through
    the bicycle tire tread or sidewall unless the tire was unusually thin.

    <https://www.quora.com/In-practice-the-wires-in-car-and-truck-tyres-are-only-0-1-mm-diameter-but-are-wound-into-a-twisted-cord-with-diameter-of-around-2-mm-Why-as-in-why-a-cord-of-2mm-diameter-and-not-a-single-wire-with-diameter-of-2-mm>
    "In practice the wires in car (and truck) tyres are only 0.1 mm
    diameter, but are wound into a twisted cord with diameter of around 2
    mm."

    0.1mm dia is about #38 AWG which is very thin wire.

    It is a thin wire and I have pulled them out of bicycle
    tires.

    Well yes. The thin wires are molded into the rubber. The wires were
    not pushed in by mechanical means, but rather, they were delivered
    embedded in the rubber from the manufactory. I don't believe it is
    possible to mechanically shove one of the wires through a bicycle
    tire, especially by driving over the wire.

    More frequently than syringe needles or drywall screws: >http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfromthepast/alexflat.jpg
    Less common than beer/liquor bottle shards.

    Many years ago, there were several carpenters living along my dirt
    road. They would routinely drop various fasteners onto the road which
    would eventually puncture car tires. The carnage was sufficient to
    inspire threats of violence from the neighbors. The solution was to
    seal the pickup bed with plastic swimming pools and to remove the
    fasteners from the road using magnetic rollers and metal detectors.
    The worst offender were roofing cap nails with square washers
    attached:
    <https://www.google.com/search?q=metal+cap+nails&tbm=isch>
    2nd place were aluminum nails: <https://www.google.com/search?q=aluminum+nails&tbm=isch>
    which were difficult to find with the metal locator and impossible
    with the magnetic roller: <https://www.google.com/search?q=magnetic+roller+for+nails&tbm=isch>

    The carpenters eventually sold their houses thus eliminating the nail
    problem. However, I still bring the magnetic roller on occasional dog
    walks with the neighbors.



    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to Jeff Liebermann on Sun Jan 28 12:52:01 2024
    On 1/28/2024 12:24 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 09:28:04 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 1/27/2024 4:51 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 14:34:33 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    I don't know the wire gauge
    used in tires. I don't think I could push such a thin wire through
    the bicycle tire tread or sidewall unless the tire was unusually thin.

    <https://www.quora.com/In-practice-the-wires-in-car-and-truck-tyres-are-only-0-1-mm-diameter-but-are-wound-into-a-twisted-cord-with-diameter-of-around-2-mm-Why-as-in-why-a-cord-of-2mm-diameter-and-not-a-single-wire-with-diameter-of-2-mm>
    "In practice the wires in car (and truck) tyres are only 0.1 mm
    diameter, but are wound into a twisted cord with diameter of around 2
    mm."

    0.1mm dia is about #38 AWG which is very thin wire.

    It is a thin wire and I have pulled them out of bicycle
    tires.

    Well yes. The thin wires are molded into the rubber. The wires were
    not pushed in by mechanical means, but rather, they were delivered
    embedded in the rubber from the manufactory. I don't believe it is
    possible to mechanically shove one of the wires through a bicycle
    tire, especially by driving over the wire.

    More frequently than syringe needles or drywall screws:
    http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfromthepast/alexflat.jpg
    Less common than beer/liquor bottle shards.

    Many years ago, there were several carpenters living along my dirt
    road. They would routinely drop various fasteners onto the road which
    would eventually puncture car tires. The carnage was sufficient to
    inspire threats of violence from the neighbors. The solution was to
    seal the pickup bed with plastic swimming pools and to remove the
    fasteners from the road using magnetic rollers and metal detectors.
    The worst offender were roofing cap nails with square washers
    attached:
    <https://www.google.com/search?q=metal+cap+nails&tbm=isch>
    2nd place were aluminum nails: <https://www.google.com/search?q=aluminum+nails&tbm=isch>
    which were difficult to find with the metal locator and impossible
    with the magnetic roller: <https://www.google.com/search?q=magnetic+roller+for+nails&tbm=isch>

    The carpenters eventually sold their houses thus eliminating the nail problem. However, I still bring the magnetic roller on occasional dog
    walks with the neighbors.




    Without overanalyzing reasons, severely worn steel radials
    are more common in some neighborhoods than others:

    https://worldtirereview.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/What-Can-You-Do-With-Wire-Showing-On-Tire.jpg

    The dancing-with-death worn tires shed steel wire.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to lou.holtman@gmail.com on Sun Jan 28 12:37:56 2024
    On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 11:01:17 -0800 (PST), Lou Holtman
    <lou.holtman@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 7:25:10?PM UTC+1, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 09:28:04 -0600, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 1/27/2024 4:51 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 14:34:33 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    I don't know the wire gauge
    used in tires. I don't think I could push such a thin wire through
    the bicycle tire tread or sidewall unless the tire was unusually thin. >> >>
    <https://www.quora.com/In-practice-the-wires-in-car-and-truck-tyres-are-only-0-1-mm-diameter-but-are-wound-into-a-twisted-cord-with-diameter-of-around-2-mm-Why-as-in-why-a-cord-of-2mm-diameter-and-not-a-single-wire-with-diameter-of-2-mm>
    "In practice the wires in car (and truck) tyres are only 0.1 mm
    diameter, but are wound into a twisted cord with diameter of around 2
    mm."

    0.1mm dia is about #38 AWG which is very thin wire.

    It is a thin wire and I have pulled them out of bicycle
    tires.
    Well yes. The thin wires are molded into the rubber. The wires were
    not pushed in by mechanical means, but rather, they were delivered
    embedded in the rubber from the manufactory. I don't believe it is
    possible to mechanically shove one of the wires through a bicycle
    tire, especially by driving over the wire.

    You would be surprised as almost every hairdresser had one hair shoved into his or hers finger to the bone at one time.
    Lou

    I would be very surprised. I've never heard of that happening. The
    hair would need to be perfectly straight. There's something called a
    "hair splinter" which is a similar problem but unlikely to be caused
    by "car tires shedding wires": <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9149401/>
    Tom claimed that his bicycle tires and tubes were penetrated by "car
    tires shedding wires".

    I have a Durometer (Shore A type) for measuring the hardness of
    various materials.
    <https://www.google.com/search?q=shore+a+durometer&tbm=isch>
    Mostly, I use it for measuring rubber hardness. It works by trying to
    shove a steel pin into the material and measuring the depth
    penetration. I have no plans to use the tester on my finger but
    suspect it would not be as hard as a bicycle tire.


    (Jan 16, 2024) <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/eAEXNTV6WKg/m/allyQpo4AgAJ>
    "I have four bikes down in the garage with flat tires and all of them
    are the slow leaks indicative of worn out car tires shedding wires.
    When I repair a pin hole flat the next ride is the same problem. One
    of the tubes I was repairing had six of these micro holes in it."

    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)