• Mechanical engineering innovation

    From AMuzi@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 25 14:37:58 2024
    complex, IMHO but if that's what you want to do this is a
    way to do it:

    https://bikerumor.com/columbus-trittico-brings-modern-full-internal-routing-to-classic-handmade-looks/
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    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to AMuzi on Thu Jan 25 18:15:45 2024
    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 14:37:58 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    complex, IMHO but if that's what you want to do this is a
    way to do it:

    https://bikerumor.com/columbus-trittico-brings-modern-full-internal-routing-to-classic-handmade-looks/

    I'm kind of partial to seeing loops and strands of cable out in the
    open.

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 26 04:22:15 2024
    On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 14:56:32 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 18:15:45 -0500, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 14:37:58 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    complex, IMHO but if that's what you want to do this is a
    way to do it:
    https://bikerumor.com/columbus-trittico-brings-modern-full-internal-routing-to-classic-handmade-looks/

    I'm kind of partial to seeing loops and strands of cable out in the
    open.

    I was thinking about this today, but isn't a "classic" bicycle one
    equipped with visible cables ?

    I don't mind spending money and effort to make the bike function
    better, but not for purely cosmetic fluff. I have the same philosophy
    about cars. Fins, wings, and fake air scoops are turnoffs for me.

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to lou.holtman@gmail.com on Fri Jan 26 05:48:26 2024
    On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 02:14:50 -0800 (PST), Lou Holtman
    <lou.holtman@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 10:22:22?AM UTC+1, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 14:56:32 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 18:15:45 -0500, Catrike Ryder
    <Sol...@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 14:37:58 -0600, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >> >>
    complex, IMHO but if that's what you want to do this is a
    way to do it:

    https://bikerumor.com/columbus-trittico-brings-modern-full-internal-routing-to-classic-handmade-looks/

    I'm kind of partial to seeing loops and strands of cable out in the
    open.

    I was thinking about this today, but isn't a "classic" bicycle one
    equipped with visible cables ?
    I don't mind spending money and effort to make the bike function
    better, but not for purely cosmetic fluff. I have the same philosophy
    about cars. Fins, wings, and fake air scoops are turnoffs for me.

    Pfff. Nobody is immune for cosmetic ‘fluff’. Even the choice of a color is given in for cosmetic fluff.

    Lou

    Read what I wrote. It's the spending of money and effort for cosmetic
    fluff that are turnoffs for me.

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  • From Zen Cycle@21:1/5 to AMuzi on Fri Jan 26 08:05:30 2024
    On 1/25/2024 3:37 PM, AMuzi wrote:
    complex, IMHO but if that's what you want to do this is a way to do it:

    https://bikerumor.com/columbus-trittico-brings-modern-full-internal-routing-to-classic-handmade-looks/

    Just my opinion -
    I wouldn't exactly call that "classic handmade looks". I'm not referring
    to the internal routing specifically, but the frame design overall. Sure
    it does have a "handmade look", but only in that you can see the welds.
    For me, a "classic" look will give you elegant lugwork with traditional geometry. Very few bike builders are working with lugs any more, There
    are certainly few - if any - standard offerings. You want classic? This
    is it:

    https://officinabattaglin.com/products/custom-steel-bikes/portofino/

    Of note...."fully hidden cable routing when the frame is assembled with
    an electronic disc-brake groupset"

    Apparently Battaglin figured out internal cable routing at least as
    early as 2022.



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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to John B. on Fri Jan 26 09:04:10 2024
    On 1/26/2024 1:56 AM, John B. wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 18:15:45 -0500, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 14:37:58 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    complex, IMHO but if that's what you want to do this is a
    way to do it:

    https://bikerumor.com/columbus-trittico-brings-modern-full-internal-routing-to-classic-handmade-looks/

    I'm kind of partial to seeing loops and strands of cable out in the
    open.

    I was thinking about this today, but isn't a "classic" bicycle one
    equipped with visible cables ?

    Harumph.
    Some might say a 'classic' bicycle has no cables to hide.

    http://www.yellowjersey.org/PANAK7IB.JPG
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Roger Merriman@21:1/5 to Tom Kunich on Fri Jan 26 15:45:07 2024
    Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 7:04:16 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
    On 1/26/2024 1:56 AM, John B. wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 18:15:45 -0500, Catrike Ryder
    <Sol...@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 14:37:58 -0600, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>
    complex, IMHO but if that's what you want to do this is a
    way to do it:

    https://bikerumor.com/columbus-trittico-brings-modern-full-internal-routing-to-classic-handmade-looks/


    I'm kind of partial to seeing loops and strands of cable out in the
    open.

    I was thinking about this today, but isn't a "classic" bicycle one
    equipped with visible cables ?
    Harumph.
    Some might say a 'classic' bicycle has no cables to hide.

    http://www.yellowjersey.org/PANAK7IB.JPG
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    a...@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971
    They are used as delivery vehicles in the San Francisco Financial
    district. But the financial district is rapidly disappearing since
    everything now can be done over the internet.

    Perhaps for documents but moving stuff and people about seems to be a
    growing business ie less a Fixed bike more cargo bike.

    Such as this lot. https://pedalme.co.uk

    Roger Merriman

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  • From Wolfgang Strobl@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 26 18:02:45 2024
    Am Thu, 25 Jan 2024 14:37:58 -0600 schrieb AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>:

    complex, IMHO but if that's what you want to do this is a
    way to do it:

    https://bikerumor.com/columbus-trittico-brings-modern-full-internal-routing-to-classic-handmade-looks/

    I'm quite happy with the partial internal routing on the bikes I built
    in Spring 2023. A closer look into a picture I have shown a while ago,
    from my first test ride, still without tape on the handlebar. <https://www.mystrobl.de/ws/pic/fahrrad/20230408/DSC02154.jpg>

    Internal routing through the fork and down tube hides the hydraulic line
    where it gets in the way and poses a risk, but outside routing makes it
    easy to modify the handlebars and stem.


    --
    Bicycle helmets are the Bach flower remedies of traffic

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  • From Roger Merriman@21:1/5 to Wolfgang Strobl on Fri Jan 26 18:47:29 2024
    Wolfgang Strobl <news5@mystrobl.de> wrote:
    Am Thu, 25 Jan 2024 14:37:58 -0600 schrieb AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>:

    complex, IMHO but if that's what you want to do this is a
    way to do it:

    https://bikerumor.com/columbus-trittico-brings-modern-full-internal-routing-to-classic-handmade-looks/

    I'm quite happy with the partial internal routing on the bikes I built
    in Spring 2023. A closer look into a picture I have shown a while ago,
    from my first test ride, still without tape on the handlebar. <https://www.mystrobl.de/ws/pic/fahrrad/20230408/DSC02154.jpg>

    Internal routing through the fork and down tube hides the hydraulic line where it gets in the way and poses a risk, but outside routing makes it
    easy to modify the handlebars and stem.


    My Gravel and MTB have that ie internal though frame but cables by the
    bars.

    In terms of user experience I’m less concerned about full internal though would make putting a bike in bike box a much more of faff, as I have done
    in the past.

    But one piece bars that you need to buy separate attachments to fit a bike computer let alone lights and so on.

    Roger Merriman

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