From the border to the economy, President Biden has accomplished feats in 2023 ...
On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 10:09:30 PM UTC-5, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sun, 31 Dec 2023 07:25:54 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
From the border to the economy, President Biden has accomplished feats in 2023 ...
At least give proper credit to your sources:
<https://babylonbee.com/news/the-biden-administrations-top-10-accomplishments-of-2023>
Imagine the ire from that failed author if anyone but tommy posted without attribution.
Usenet is not going away. It will simply need another service.
I was here from the first.
So I will.
Though I think that I will no longer bother with the Stupid 4 when they are quoted.
It is clearly your choice to be a member or not. The Stupid 4 make itextremely difficult to attend the group. They have made every possible
You can lead a magatard to facts but you can't make them think.
On 1/2/2024 5:52 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
<snip>
You can lead a magatard to facts but you can't make them think.
Perhaps, but the reality is that few "magtards" actually believe the absurdities that they spout.
On 1/2/2024 5:52 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
<snip>
You can lead a magatard to facts but you can't make them think.
Perhaps, but the reality is that few "magtards" actually believe the >absurdities that they spout.
On Tue, 2 Jan 2024 12:26:49 -0800, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:
On 1/2/2024 5:52 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
<snip>
You can lead a magatard to facts but you can't make them think.
Perhaps, but the reality is that few "magtards" actually believe the
absurdities that they spout.
I think we're stuck with the few that believe their own absurdities.
For example, Tom is defending to the death his recent claim to have
ridden downhill at 65 mph.
Oddly, this is also an example of why Tom was never an engineer. One
of the first thing an engineer learns is when to give up. If they
don't learn that, then the only way to get a product into production
is to literally rip it out of their hands or they will continue
engineering it until the sun explodes. There are a few engineers in
RBT. Most of them know when to stop beating an argument to death. Unfortunately, a few don't.
On 1/2/2024 5:52 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
<snip>
You can lead a magatard to facts but you can't make them think.
Perhaps, but the reality is that few "magtards" actually believe the >absurdities that they spout.
On 1/2/2024 1:27 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jan 2024 12:26:49 -0800, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:
On 1/2/2024 5:52 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
<snip>
You can lead a magatard to facts but you can't make them think.
Perhaps, but the reality is that few "magtards" actually believe the
absurdities that they spout.
I think we're stuck with the few that believe their own absurdities.
For example, Tom is defending to the death his recent claim to have
ridden downhill at 65 mph.
Oddly, this is also an example of why Tom was never an engineer. One
of the first thing an engineer learns is when to give up. If they
don't learn that, then the only way to get a product into production
is to literally rip it out of their hands or they will continue
engineering it until the sun explodes. There are a few engineers in
RBT. Most of them know when to stop beating an argument to death.
Unfortunately, a few don't.
He says those things just to get attention.
On Tue, 2 Jan 2024 16:16:55 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunichout why should anyone go into the unemployment office and stand in a line that goes around the block whe they coulf actually be looking for sork. Rea[[y, I am astonished by what you don't know! You wan't to have good job numbers? Just mark everyone else
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 12:26:53?PM UTC-8, sms wrote:
On 1/2/2024 5:52 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:Scharf, are you working? You know nothing about most of the comments you make and then have that Tin Foik trailor?The4 very idesa that
<snip>
You can lead a magatard to facts but you can't make them think.Perhaps, but the reality is that few "magtards" actually believe the
absurdities that they spout.
--
If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
they do about the subject.Tin Foil Awards
Biden has inceased jobs is hilarious: "https://www.brookings.edu/articles/why-havent-workers-returned-to-the-labor-force-after-covid-19/".
When they decide that a worker has not returned to the workforce is a simple method. IT you do noy go into the unemployment office with proof that you lookerd for work, they mark you as no longer in the workforce. But if unemployment insurance has run
Err TOMMY! In 2020 the U,S. unemployment was 6.7%, in 2022 it was 3.5% >Source: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
https://www.investopedia.com/historical-us-unemployment-rate-by-year-7495494
Err TOMMY! In 2020 the U,S. unemployment was 6.7%, in 2022 it was 3.5% Source: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
https://www.investopedia.com/historical-us-unemployment-rate-by-year-7495494
On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 20:04:52 -0500, Catrike Ryderrun out why should anyone go into the unemployment office and stand in a line that goes around the block whe they coulf actually be looking for sork. Rea[[y, I am astonished by what you don't know! You wan't to have good job numbers? Just mark everyone
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jan 2024 07:45:47 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jan 2024 16:16:55 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 12:26:53?PM UTC-8, sms wrote:
On 1/2/2024 5:52 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:Scharf, are you working? You know nothing about most of the comments you make and then have that Tin Foik trailor?The4 very idesa that
<snip>
You can lead a magatard to facts but you can't make them think.Perhaps, but the reality is that few "magtards" actually believe the >>>>> absurdities that they spout.
--
“If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it >>>>> really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as >>>>> they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards
Biden has inceased jobs is hilarious: "https://www.brookings.edu/articles/why-havent-workers-returned-to-the-labor-force-after-covid-19/".
When they decide that a worker has not returned to the workforce is a simple method. IT you do noy go into the unemployment office with proof that you lookerd for work, they mark you as no longer in the workforce. But if unemployment insurance has
Err TOMMY! In 2020 the U,S. unemployment was 6.7%, in 2022 it was 3.5%
Source: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
https://www.investopedia.com/historical-us-unemployment-rate-by-year-7495494
The "unemployment rate" is misnamed. It's actually the number of
people who are not seeking unemployment benefits. There's a massive
number of people who are unemployed and not seeking unemployment
benefits.
But it is the only yardstick there is. Or at least the only one I can
find.
But whether the rate is good or bad it seems that there are far more
illegal workers holding jobs in the U.S. then there citizens looking
for jobs so obviously the U.S. economy is large enough to support 100% employment. For citizens.
BLM???
Black Lives Matter???
Bureau of Land Management ???
???
Someone told me that you said that I couldn't have develooped
medical instruments because I don't pay much attention to standards.
On Tue, 2 Jan 2024 16:31:22 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
Someone told me that you said that I couldn't have develooped
medical instruments because I don't pay much attention to standards.
Tom... I don't know who your "someone" might be, but that's similar to
what I wrote while trying to explain to you that engineering involves
a little design and a very large amount of standards compliance.
Please try to give credit to people other than yourself. Nobody
designs in a vacuum.
(Jan 1, 2024) <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/av7YqTteGv0/m/OlZouvsfBAAJ> "Regulatory compliance and certifications are major parts of
engineering. At some point, you should have designed something based
on a long list of very specific specifications with industry
standards, international standards, trade association standards,
safety standards, etc. After you're done with your design, you should
have had to test your device to insure that it complies with ALL
applicable standards". (Two typo errors corrected)
Scharf, are you working? You know nothing about most of the comments you make and then have that Tin Foik trailor?The4 very idesa that
Biden has inceased jobs is hilarious: "https://www.brookings.edu/articles/why-havent-workers-returned-to-the-labor-force-after-covid-19/".
When they decide that a worker has not returned to the workforce is a simple method. IT you do noy go into the unemployment office with proof that you lookerd for work, they mark you as no longer in the workforce. But if unemployment insurance has runout why should anyone go into the unemployment office and stand in a line that goes around the block whe they coulf actually be looking for sork. Rea[[y, I am astonished by what you don't know! You wan't to have good job numbers? Just mark everyone else
On 1/2/2024 7:52 PM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 20:04:52 -0500, Catrike RyderYou can see the actual employment numbers at BLM. Mr Tricycle is correct
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jan 2024 07:45:47 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jan 2024 16:16:55 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 12:26:53?PM UTC-8, sms wrote:
On 1/2/2024 5:52 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:Scharf, are you working? You know nothing about most of the
<snip>
You can lead a magatard to facts but you can't make them think.Perhaps, but the reality is that few "magtards" actually believe the >>>>>> absurdities that they spout.
--
“If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it >>>>>> really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as >>>>>> they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards
comments you make and then have that Tin Foik trailor?The4 very
idesa that
Biden has inceased jobs is hilarious:
"https://www.brookings.edu/articles/why-havent-workers-returned-to-the-labor-force-after-covid-19/".
When they decide that a worker has not returned to the workforce is
a simple method. IT you do noy go into the unemployment office with
proof that you lookerd for work, they mark you as no longer in the
workforce. But if unemployment insurance has run out why should
anyone go into the unemployment office and stand in a line that
goes around the block whe they coulf actually be looking for sork.
Rea[[y, I am astonished by what you don't know! You wan't to have
good job numbers? Just mark everyone else as out of the workforce.
Err TOMMY! In 2020 the U,S. unemployment was 6.7%, in 2022 it was 3.5% >>>> Source: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
https://www.investopedia.com/historical-us-unemployment-rate-by-year-7495494
The "unemployment rate" is misnamed. It's actually the number of
people who are not seeking unemployment benefits. There's a massive
number of people who are unemployed and not seeking unemployment
benefits.
But it is the only yardstick there is. Or at least the only one I can
find.
But whether the rate is good or bad it seems that there are far more
illegal workers holding jobs in the U.S. then there citizens looking
for jobs so obviously the U.S. economy is large enough to support 100%
employment. For citizens.
that the 'unemployment rate' is utter fiction and useless to gauge labor markets.
On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 12:32:35 PM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
On 1/2/2024 3:26 PM, sms wrote:
On 1/2/2024 5:52 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:I think you're being irrationally charitable
<snip>
You can lead a magatard to facts but you can't make them think.
Perhaps, but the reality is that few "magtards" actually believe the
absurdities that they spout.
Someone told me that you said that I couldn't have develooped medical instruments because I don't pay much attention to standards.
Since you cannot design or program how would you know anything about it?
The design STANDARDS are nothing more than good design practices.
But since you're nothing more than a paperwork Flunky you know anything about it.
Really, I suggest you stop showing the world how little you know.
I'd say it was pretty accurate based on the dearth of available
qualified engineers we're finding for the openings we have.
On Tue, 2 Jan 2024 20:44:46 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:run out why should anyone go into the unemployment office and stand in a line that goes around the block whe they coulf actually be looking for sork. Rea[[y, I am astonished by what you don't know! You wan't to have good job numbers? Just mark everyone
On 1/2/2024 7:52 PM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 20:04:52 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jan 2024 07:45:47 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jan 2024 16:16:55 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 12:26:53?PM UTC-8, sms wrote:
On 1/2/2024 5:52 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:Scharf, are you working? You know nothing about most of the comments you make and then have that Tin Foik trailor?The4 very idesa that
<snip>
You can lead a magatard to facts but you can't make them think. >>>>>>> Perhaps, but the reality is that few "magtards" actually believe the >>>>>>> absurdities that they spout.--
“If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it >>>>>>> really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as >>>>>>> they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards
Biden has inceased jobs is hilarious: "https://www.brookings.edu/articles/why-havent-workers-returned-to-the-labor-force-after-covid-19/".
When they decide that a worker has not returned to the workforce is a simple method. IT you do noy go into the unemployment office with proof that you lookerd for work, they mark you as no longer in the workforce. But if unemployment insurance has
You can see the actual employment numbers at BLM. Mr
Err TOMMY! In 2020 the U,S. unemployment was 6.7%, in 2022 it was 3.5% >>>>> Source: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
https://www.investopedia.com/historical-us-unemployment-rate-by-year-7495494
The "unemployment rate" is misnamed. It's actually the number of
people who are not seeking unemployment benefits. There's a massive
number of people who are unemployed and not seeking unemployment
benefits.
But it is the only yardstick there is. Or at least the only one I can
find.
But whether the rate is good or bad it seems that there are far more
illegal workers holding jobs in the U.S. then there citizens looking
for jobs so obviously the U.S. economy is large enough to support 100%
employment. For citizens.
Tricycle is correct that the 'unemployment rate' is utter
fiction and useless to gauge labor markets.
BLM???
Black Lives Matter???
Bureau of Land Management ???
???
On 1/2/2024 6:59 PM, John B. wrote:
<snip>
BLM???
Black Lives Matter???
Bureau of Land Management ???
???
LOL, I think that he means BLS (Bureau of Labor Statistics).
The number of new claims for unemployment is also one
statistic that is useful in gauging employment trends but
there can be big swings due to specific events, like the
bankruptcy and shutdown of Yellow trucking, and then another
swing as those employees go to work for other trucking
companies.
Another statistic is the increase or decrease in payroll
employment.
On 1/2/2024 11:29 PM, zen cycle wrote:
<snip>
I'd say it was pretty accurate based on the dearth of available
qualified engineers we're finding for the openings we have.
Not sure where you are located, but you might look into hiring some
bored, retired, seniors, who have actual experience in design (not "he
who must not be named).
I thought that I'd be happily retired by now. I began collecting Social Security, then I was contacted by a small company whose CEO I know. I
went back to work for him, on a big project. He needed a hardware
engineer who knows how to actually design and build equipment, and how
to source components.
Not sure how long this gig will last, but the extra money is nice and
the travel keeps me out of trouble.
On Tue, 2 Jan 2024 16:31:22 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
Someone told me that you said that I couldn't have develooped
medical instruments because I don't pay much attention to standards.
Tom... I don't know who your "someone" might be, but that's similar to
what I wrote while trying to explain to you that engineering involves
a little design and a very large amount of standards compliance.
Please try to give credit to people other than yourself. Nobody
designs in a vacuum.
(Jan 1, 2024) <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/av7YqTteGv0/m/OlZouvsfBAAJ> "Regulatory compliance and certifications are major parts of
engineering. At some point, you should have designed something based
on a long list of very specific specifications with industry
standards, international standards, trade association standards,
safety standards, etc. After you're done with your design, you should
have had to test your device to insure that it complies with ALL
applicable standards". (Two typo errors corrected)
tOn Tue, 2 Jan 2024 17:35:09 -0800, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:
On 1/2/2024 4:45 PM, John B. wrote:
<snip>
Err TOMMY! In 2020 the U,S. unemployment was 6.7%, in 2022 it was 3.5%
Source: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
https://www.investopedia.com/historical-us-unemployment-rate-by-year-7495494
True. 2020 was in the middle of the pandemic. Trump's weak response was
a major contributor to the high unemployment rate at that time.
Trump is the only president in the last 80 years to achieve a net job
loss during his presidency. George W. Bush is the runner-up with only 1 >>million jobs added during his administration. Bush's successor, Barack >>Obama, is credited with 12 million new jobs. So far, Biden has had 14 >>million new jobs, but of course he was helped by the economic recovery
and with a lot of the lost jobs during the Trump administration coming back.
But, in many, perhaps most, cases the President really has little to
do with employment, or lack thereof. True it occurred during his term
in office but, for example, he has little to do with job losses in
parts of California, or the poor folks sleeping in the streets I read
about.
On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 20:04:52 -0500, Catrike Ryderrun out why should anyone go into the unemployment office and stand in a line that goes around the block whe they coulf actually be looking for sork. Rea[[y, I am astonished by what you don't know! You wan't to have good job numbers? Just mark everyone
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jan 2024 07:45:47 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jan 2024 16:16:55 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 12:26:53?PM UTC-8, sms wrote:
On 1/2/2024 5:52 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:Scharf, are you working? You know nothing about most of the comments you make and then have that Tin Foik trailor?The4 very idesa that
<snip>
You can lead a magatard to facts but you can't make them think.Perhaps, but the reality is that few "magtards" actually believe the >>>>> absurdities that they spout.
--
If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as >>>>> they do about the subject.Tin Foil Awards
Biden has inceased jobs is hilarious: "https://www.brookings.edu/articles/why-havent-workers-returned-to-the-labor-force-after-covid-19/".
When they decide that a worker has not returned to the workforce is a simple method. IT you do noy go into the unemployment office with proof that you lookerd for work, they mark you as no longer in the workforce. But if unemployment insurance has
The "unemployment rate" is misnamed. It's actually the number of
Err TOMMY! In 2020 the U,S. unemployment was 6.7%, in 2022 it was 3.5% >>>Source: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
https://www.investopedia.com/historical-us-unemployment-rate-by-year-7495494 >>
people who are not seeking unemployment benefits. There's a massive
number of people who are unemployed and not seeking unemployment
benefits.
But it is the only yardstick there is. Or at least the only one I can
find.
But whether the rate is good or bad it seems that there are far more
illegal workers holding jobs in the U.S. then there citizens looking
for jobs so obviously the U.S. economy is large enough to support 100% >employment. For citizens.
Yes, that's why looking at the increase or decrease in payroll
employment is also a good statistic to use. It's where "we have more
people working than at any time" comes from. Of course some job growth
is due to the increase in population. In 1981, when Carter left office,
the 1980 U.S. population was about 226.5 million. In 2021, when Trump
left office the 2000 U.S. population was about 329.5 million.
'Unemployed' only counts people on the UC dole that week, a small subset
of unemployed people (with 'off the books' labor in both groups;
'unemployed' and 'employed', to an unknown extent)
On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 11:26:57 PM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
On 1/2/2024 7:31 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 12:32:35 PM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:This is true, except that no one 'told' you I wrote that. You read it here. >>> Since you cannot design or program how would you know anything about it?
On 1/2/2024 3:26 PM, sms wrote:
On 1/2/2024 5:52 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:I think you're being irrationally charitable
<snip>
You can lead a magatard to facts but you can't make them think.
Perhaps, but the reality is that few "magtards" actually believe the >>>>> absurdities that they spout.
Someone told me that you said that I couldn't have develooped medical instruments because I don't pay much attention to standards.
I have designed circuits as well as systems, and have programmed them.
No matter how many times you tell the lie that I can't, it will never
become true.
The design STANDARDS are nothing more than good design practices.lol...sure sparky, I'll be sure to tell the regulatory agency reviewing
engineer that the energy limitation requirements for hazardous location
designs are just suggestions during my next design review.
But since you're nothing more than a paperwork Flunky you know anything about it.Considering you've never done the paperwork (let alone proving
compliance to requirements), I'd suggest you know nothing about it.
Tell us again how PWM is used to test cables?
Really, I suggest you stop showing the world how little you know.
Will you stop the outright lying?
Perhaps you might have been required to design a simple circuit in college before they handed you a diploma out of pity.
The very fact that you could not even begin to understand a simple program told us the entire story.
You are nothing more than a paperwork wonk required by management.
There is no way that you could get a job as a real engineer
and you know it because engineering positions at three times your salary are all over the place
and you're not taking them because they aren't being offered to you,.
On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 6:00:42 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:every other minute as Flunky pretends. Flunky is not an engineer and all he does and probably all he has ever done is sign off paperwork not knowing if it is proper or not. Frank showed that he wsan't up to a real ejngineering job and fled to academia
On 1/2/2024 9:41 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jan 2024 16:31:22 -0800 (PST), Tom KunichOne guy does, James Dyson:
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
Someone told me that you said that I couldn't have develooped
medical instruments because I don't pay much attention to standards.
Tom... I don't know who your "someone" might be, but that's similar to
what I wrote while trying to explain to you that engineering involves
a little design and a very large amount of standards compliance.
Please try to give credit to people other than yourself. Nobody
designs in a vacuum.
(Jan 1, 2024)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/av7YqTteGv0/m/OlZouvsfBAAJ>
"Regulatory compliance and certifications are major parts of
engineering. At some point, you should have designed something based
on a long list of very specific specifications with industry
standards, international standards, trade association standards,
safety standards, etc. After you're done with your design, you should
have had to test your device to insure that it complies with ALL
applicable standards". (Two typo errors corrected)
https://www.dyson.com/james-dyson
--
Andrew Muzi
a...@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
When you're stupid you hand out bullshit answers like Scharf, Liebermann and Flunky. The ONLY way that they can design "stqandards is by using the present best standards, So any good engineer would use them normally without looking in a standards manal
Can you even imagine Liebermann telling us all about design standards when he never worked in the fielld?
It really is tiersome that the people who have done the least are right here trying their hardest to excuse their inability as due to someone else writing these difficult standards.
And how could you ever have any advancement in science if you weren't breaking the rules?
I certainly wasn't happy learning calculus to discover the mistakes made by TWO PhD's on that poison gas detector. But without those calculations I would never have learned that the response was exponential rather than linear and been able to get the firmware to work.
When you're so stupid that all you can do is follow the pull on your leash, you get people like Scharf.https://www.investopedia.com/historical-us-unemployment-rate-by-year-7495494The "unemployment rate" is misnamed. It's actually the number of
people who are not seeking unemployment benefits. There's a massive
number of people who are unemployed and not seeking unemployment
benefits.
Now here we have an individual, who, based in his own posts, was not intelligent enough to graduate from high school, lives in a crap house
in a slum, drives a cheap second hand car, whines about the cost of
groceries and although having been paid as much a quarter of a million dollars a year now finds it necessary to augment his Social Security
by trying to repair old, junk, second hand bicycles, which in spite of
a bicycle being a rather simple mechanical device has problems
accomplishing even the simplest repair, installing a seat tube - "poke
it in the hole, stupid!
And he feels qualified to refer to others as "Stupid"?
On 1/3/2024 4:17 PM, John B. wrote:
<snip>
When you're so stupid that all you can do is follow the pull on your leash, you get people like Scharf.https://www.investopedia.com/historical-us-unemployment-rate-by-year-7495494The "unemployment rate" is misnamed. It's actually the number of
people who are not seeking unemployment benefits. There's a massive
number of people who are unemployed and not seeking unemployment
benefits.
Now here we have an individual, who, based in his own posts, was not
intelligent enough to graduate from high school, lives in a crap house
in a slum, drives a cheap second hand car, whines about the cost of
groceries and although having been paid as much a quarter of a million
dollars a year now finds it necessary to augment his Social Security
by trying to repair old, junk, second hand bicycles, which in spite of
a bicycle being a rather simple mechanical device has problems
accomplishing even the simplest repair, installing a seat tube - "poke
it in the hole, stupid!
And he feels qualified to refer to others as "Stupid"?
Not sure who stated: "The "unemployment rate" is misnamed. It's actually
the number of people who are not seeking unemployment benefits." But
it's actually the opposite of that.
Those whose unemployment benefits have been exhausted, and have not
found work, are not counted as part of the unemployment rate. They are
the so-called "missing workers."
When the The Economic Policy Institute did a study, back in 2017, the >reported unemployment rate was 4.4% but when they factored in their
estimate of "missing workers" it was 5.2% ><https://www.epi.org/publication/missing-workers/>.
The "jobs created" number is probably a better gauge of the job situation.
Carter: +10.117 million in 48 months.
Reagan: +16.332 million in 96 months.
H.W. Bush: +2.617 million in 48 months.
Clinton: +22.745 million in 96 months.
W. Bush: +0.523 million in 96 months.
Obama: +11.570 million in 96 months.
Trump: -2.670 million in 48 months.
Biden: +14.612 million in 35 months.
This data is available at https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/PAYEMS
Biden's performance in terms of job creation has been amazingly good. Of >course he was helped by all the jobs lost during Trump's presidency
because many of those lost jobs came back after Trump lost the election,
but even factoring in Trump's terrible performance, the job gains under
Biden have been spectacularly good. Companies hire more workers when
they have a positive outlook about the future of the economy.
On Wed, 3 Jan 2024 19:14:05 -0800, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:
Not sure who stated: "The "unemployment rate" is misnamed. It's actually
the number of people who are not seeking unemployment benefits." But
it's actually the opposite of that.
Those whose unemployment benefits have been exhausted, and have not
found work, are not counted as part of the unemployment rate. They are
the so-called "missing workers."
When the The Economic Policy Institute did a study, back in 2017, the
reported unemployment rate was 4.4% but when they factored in their
estimate of "missing workers" it was 5.2%
<https://www.epi.org/publication/missing-workers/>.
The "jobs created" number is probably a better gauge of the job situation. >>
Carter: +10.117 million in 48 months.
Reagan: +16.332 million in 96 months.
H.W. Bush: +2.617 million in 48 months.
Clinton: +22.745 million in 96 months.
W. Bush: +0.523 million in 96 months.
Obama: +11.570 million in 96 months.
Trump: -2.670 million in 48 months.
Biden: +14.612 million in 35 months.
This data is available at https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/PAYEMS
Biden's performance in terms of job creation has been amazingly good. Of
course he was helped by all the jobs lost during Trump's presidency
because many of those lost jobs came back after Trump lost the election,
but even factoring in Trump's terrible performance, the job gains under
Biden have been spectacularly good. Companies hire more workers when
they have a positive outlook about the future of the economy.
The Economic Policy Institute is a left wing propganda group.
First off, the job creation data presented is from the fed, as listed in Scharfs citation.
Second, The EPI reference was from a report they wrote in 2017, and it _supports_ the idea that the reported unemployment rate is generally
lower than the actual unemployment rate.
So, rather than actually address the data, you instead chose to dismiss
it because of your ignorant right-wing bias against data you don't like. FWIW, EPI may be "left-center", but they're substantially less biased
than any of the ridiculously questionable sources you extrapolate your perverted viewpoints from.
Try these on, dumbass:
American Enterprise Institute, just another left wing schill?- https://www.aei.org/economics/a-soft-landing-for-the-economy-and-biden/ "Overall the labor market continues to look healthy, albeit with some
recent softening in the trends for net hiring and wage growth. "
Kiplinger, more left-wing propaganda? https://www.kiplinger.com/economic-forecasts/jobs
"The unemployment rate ticked down to 3.7% in November, reversing the
October rise."
The American Action Forum, more commie pabulum? - https://www.americanactionforum.org/u6-fix/not-a-turkey/
"November fell to 3.7 percent; paired with a 532,000 gain in the labor
force, this decline is all the more suggestive of a stronger labor market."
And no, these articles weren't written by 'token liberals' on the
editorial staff. You're entitled to your own opinion, you aren't
entitles to your own facts, dumbass.
Exactly. The EPI _supported_ the fact that the reported unemployment
rate excludes "missing workers" who are no longer collecting
unemployment.
On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 07:24:57 -0800, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:
Exactly. The EPI _supported_ the fact that the reported unemployment
rate excludes "missing workers" who are no longer collecting
unemployment.
But they made up the number of "missing workers."
On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 10:38:31 AM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:manal every other minute as Flunky pretends. Flunky is not an engineer and all he does and probably all he has ever done is sign off paperwork not knowing if it is proper or not. Frank showed that he wsan't up to a real ejngineering job and fled to
On 1/3/2024 11:43 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 6:00:42 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/2/2024 9:41 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jan 2024 16:31:22 -0800 (PST), Tom KunichOne guy does, James Dyson:
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
Someone told me that you said that I couldn't have develoopedTom... I don't know who your "someone" might be, but that's similar to >>>>> what I wrote while trying to explain to you that engineering involves >>>>> a little design and a very large amount of standards compliance.
medical instruments because I don't pay much attention to standards. >>>>>
Please try to give credit to people other than yourself. Nobody
designs in a vacuum.
(Jan 1, 2024)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/av7YqTteGv0/m/OlZouvsfBAAJ>
"Regulatory compliance and certifications are major parts of
engineering. At some point, you should have designed something based >>>>> on a long list of very specific specifications with industry
standards, international standards, trade association standards,
safety standards, etc. After you're done with your design, you should >>>>> have had to test your device to insure that it complies with ALL
applicable standards". (Two typo errors corrected)
https://www.dyson.com/james-dyson
--
Andrew Muzi
a...@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
When you're stupid you hand out bullshit answers like Scharf, Liebermann and Flunky. The ONLY way that they can design "stqandards is by using the present best standards, So any good engineer would use them normally without looking in a standards
What's clear is that you not only never designed to any standards, you
really don't know what a standard is. (hint: it isn't 'best practices').
Can you even imagine Liebermann telling us all about design standards when he never worked in the fielld?He designed radios, to FCC standards, nitwit.
Funny, I don't recall myself, Scharf, Jeff, or Frank claiming we had
It really is tiersome that the people who have done the least are right here trying their hardest to excuse their inability as due to someone else writing these difficult standards.
difficulty designing to the associated standards.
And how could you ever have any advancement in science if you weren't breaking the rules?The IEC doesn't give a rats ass about advancements in science in the
context of issuing certifications.
I certainly wasn't happy learning calculus to discover the mistakes made by >>> TWO PhD's on that poison gas detector. But without those calculations I would never have learned that the response was exponential rather than linear and been able to get the firmware to work.And tommy thinks you need to have learned calculus in order to
understand non-linear equations (hint: asymptotes and polynomials are
covered before pre-calculus).......
--
Add xx to reply
Expanding your clown act I see. Liebermann never designed anything.
He was hired originally as nothing more than your job - a gopher.
He couldn't even do that without pissing off the people who actually did the work so he was ejected.
With people like you working at your company they don't have a chance of living long.
On 1/4/2024 11:19 AM, floriduh dumbass wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 07:24:57 -0800, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:
Exactly. The EPI _supported_ the fact that the reported unemployment
rate excludes "missing workers" who are no longer collecting
unemployment.
But they made up the number of "missing workers."
No, they estimated, and here's their methodology:
https://www.epi.org/publication/missing-workers/#methodology
Estimated ? "made up", dumbass.
If you weren't so proudly willfully ignorant you might have looked up
how they estimated the number, rather than assuming they "made it up".
On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 11:50:39 -0500, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On 1/4/2024 11:19 AM, floriduh dumbass wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 07:24:57 -0800, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:
Exactly. The EPI _supported_ the fact that the reported unemployment
rate excludes "missing workers" who are no longer collecting
unemployment.
But they made up the number of "missing workers."
No, they estimated, and here's their methodology:
https://www.epi.org/publication/missing-workers/#methodology
Estimated ? "made up", dumbass.
Estimated = made it up
If you weren't so proudly willfully ignorant you might have looked up
how they estimated the number, rather than assuming they "made it up".
They described how they "made it up."
On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 06:54:08 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunichmanal every other minute as Flunky pretends. Flunky is not an engineer and all he does and probably all he has ever done is sign off paperwork not knowing if it is proper or not. Frank showed that he wsan't up to a real ejngineering job and fled to
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 10:38:31?AM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 1/3/2024 11:43 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 6:00:42?AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/2/2024 9:41 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jan 2024 16:31:22 -0800 (PST), Tom KunichOne guy does, James Dyson:
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
Someone told me that you said that I couldn't have develoopedTom... I don't know who your "someone" might be, but that's similar to >>>>>> what I wrote while trying to explain to you that engineering involves >>>>>> a little design and a very large amount of standards compliance.
medical instruments because I don't pay much attention to standards. >>>>>>
Please try to give credit to people other than yourself. Nobody
designs in a vacuum.
(Jan 1, 2024)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/av7YqTteGv0/m/OlZouvsfBAAJ>
"Regulatory compliance and certifications are major parts of
engineering. At some point, you should have designed something based >>>>>> on a long list of very specific specifications with industry
standards, international standards, trade association standards,
safety standards, etc. After you're done with your design, you should >>>>>> have had to test your device to insure that it complies with ALL
applicable standards". (Two typo errors corrected)
https://www.dyson.com/james-dyson
--
Andrew Muzi
a...@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
When you're stupid you hand out bullshit answers like Scharf, Liebermann and Flunky. The ONLY way that they can design "stqandards is by using the present best standards, So any good engineer would use them normally without looking in a standards
you working at your company they don't have a chance of living long.What's clear is that you not only never designed to any standards, youExpanding your clown act I see. Liebermann never designed anything. He was hired originally as nothing more than your job - a gopher. He couldn't even do that without pissing off the people who actually did the work so he was ejected. With people like
really don't know what a standard is. (hint: it isn't 'best practices'). >>>> Can you even imagine Liebermann telling us all about design standards when he never worked in the fielld?
He designed radios, to FCC standards, nitwit.
Funny, I don't recall myself, Scharf, Jeff, or Frank claiming we had
It really is tiersome that the people who have done the least are right here trying their hardest to excuse their inability as due to someone else writing these difficult standards.
difficulty designing to the associated standards.
And how could you ever have any advancement in science if you weren't breaking the rules?The IEC doesn't give a rats ass about advancements in science in the
context of issuing certifications.
I certainly wasn't happy learning calculus to discover the mistakes made byAnd tommy thinks you need to have learned calculus in order to
TWO PhD's on that poison gas detector. But without those calculations I would never have learned that the response was exponential rather than linear and been able to get the firmware to work.
understand non-linear equations (hint: asymptotes and polynomials are
covered before pre-calculus).......
--
Add xx to reply
But what have you designed? You talk a lot about, "I did this or I did
that, but didn't Jeff do a study that showed that your name appears
nowhere as sort of designer, patent holder, or any other evidence that
you did anything at all.
In fact you aren't even smart enough to spell the name of the
companies you claim to have worked for correctly.
So, how about some proof that you did anything more then sweep the
floor and empty the trash for the companies you claim to have worked
for.
On 1/4/2024 11:20 AM, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 06:54:08 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 10:38:31?AM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 1/3/2024 11:43 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:Expanding your clown act I see. Liebermann never designed anything.
On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 6:00:42?AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:What's clear is that you not only never designed to any standards, you >>>> really don't know what a standard is. (hint: it isn't 'best
On 1/2/2024 9:41 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jan 2024 16:31:22 -0800 (PST), Tom KunichOne guy does, James Dyson:
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
Someone told me that you said that I couldn't have develooped
medical instruments because I don't pay much attention to
standards.
Tom... I don't know who your "someone" might be, but that's
similar to
what I wrote while trying to explain to you that engineering
involves
a little design and a very large amount of standards compliance. >>>>>>> Please try to give credit to people other than yourself. Nobody
designs in a vacuum.
(Jan 1, 2024)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/av7YqTteGv0/m/OlZouvsfBAAJ>
"Regulatory compliance and certifications are major parts of
engineering. At some point, you should have designed something based >>>>>>> on a long list of very specific specifications with industry
standards, international standards, trade association standards, >>>>>>> safety standards, etc. After you're done with your design, you
should
have had to test your device to insure that it complies with ALL >>>>>>> applicable standards". (Two typo errors corrected)
https://www.dyson.com/james-dyson
--
Andrew Muzi
a...@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
When you're stupid you hand out bullshit answers like Scharf,
Liebermann and Flunky. The ONLY way that they can design
"stqandards is by using the present best standards, So any good
engineer would use them normally without looking in a standards
manal every other minute as Flunky pretends. Flunky is not an
engineer and all he does and probably all he has ever done is sign
off paperwork not knowing if it is proper or not. Frank showed that
he wsan't up to a real ejngineering job and fled to academia where
someone else has already written the book on standards as proper
engineering method.
practices').
Can you even imagine Liebermann telling us all about designHe designed radios, to FCC standards, nitwit.
standards when he never worked in the fielld?
Funny, I don't recall myself, Scharf, Jeff, or Frank claiming we had
It really is tiersome that the people who have done the least are
right here trying their hardest to excuse their inability as due to
someone else writing these difficult standards.
difficulty designing to the associated standards.
And how could you ever have any advancement in science if youThe IEC doesn't give a rats ass about advancements in science in the
weren't breaking the rules?
context of issuing certifications.
I certainly wasn't happy learning calculus to discover the mistakesAnd tommy thinks you need to have learned calculus in order to
made by
TWO PhD's on that poison gas detector. But without those
calculations I would never have learned that the response was
exponential rather than linear and been able to get the firmware to
work.
understand non-linear equations (hint: asymptotes and polynomials are
covered before pre-calculus).......
--
Add xx to reply
He was hired originally as nothing more than your job - a gopher. He
couldn't even do that without pissing off the people who actually did
the work so he was ejected. With people like you working at your
company they don't have a chance of living long.
But what have you designed? You talk a lot about, "I did this or I did
that, but didn't Jeff do a study that showed that your name appears
nowhere as sort of designer, patent holder, or any other evidence that
you did anything at all.
In fact you aren't even smart enough to spell the name of the
companies you claim to have worked for correctly.
So, how about some proof that you did anything more then sweep the
floor and empty the trash for the companies you claim to have worked
for.
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0684/1595/files/IMG_9600_edited_1024x1024.jpg?v=1648072312
On 1/4/2024 11:19 AM, floriduh dumbass wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 07:24:57 -0800, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:
Exactly. The EPI _supported_ the fact that the reported unemployment
rate excludes "missing workers" who are no longer collecting
unemployment.
But they made up the number of "missing workers."
No, they estimated, and here's their methodology:
https://www.epi.org/publication/missing-workers/#methodology
Estimated ≠ "made up", dumbass.
If you weren't so proudly willfully ignorant you might have looked up
how they estimated the number, rather than assuming they "made it up".
Biden: +14.612 million in 35 months.
On 1/3/2024 7:14 PM, sms wrote:
<snip>
Biden: +14.612 million in 35 months.
The jobs report for December 2023 came out.
Biden: +14.828 million in 36 months. Unemployment rate
unchanged at 3.7%.
"Hiring in the US was unexpectedly strong last month, as the
American economy continued to defy forecasts of a slowdown.
Employers added 216,000 jobs and the unemployment rate was
unchanged at 3.7%, the Labor Department said.
All told, the US added 2.7 million jobs last year, slowing
after the boom of 4.8 million in 2022 and 6.4 million in
2021, but a faster pace than pre-pandemic years.
Pay showed signs of rising, with average hourly earnings in
December up 4.1% from a year earlier."
This is great news, when the economy is doing well, with low
unemployment, strong job gains, wage gains, and strong stock
market performance, it benefits everyone. Now we have to
find a way to get fuel prices down since they've gone up 70¢
since January 2021, about 30%. Total inflation was 17.0%
over the last three years while wage growth was 19.1%.
What's not great is bicycle sales and bike shop income. The
boom in sales during the pandemic led to a post-pandemic
bust. Manufacturers are squeezing the margins on shops.
Direct to consumer eBike sales are bypassing bike shops.
Yes, it's as bad a situation as ever I've seen in our industry. Still
not the bloodbath of electric autos, but bad enough.
On 1/5/2024 9:50 AM, AMuzi wrote:
Yes, it's as bad a situation as ever I've seen in our
industry. Still not the bloodbath of electric autos, but
bad enough.
But the losses in electric vehicles are because of the huge
development costs which will eventually be recouped, plus
the automakers have profits from gasoline powered vehicles
to tide them over.
What's really scary is the prediction that China will start
exporting electric vehicles to the U.S.. BYD is already
exporting to Mexico. BYD has models for under $20,000.
On 1/3/2024 7:14 PM, sms wrote:
<snip>
Biden: +14.612 million in 35 months.
The jobs report for December 2023 came out.
Biden: +14.828 million in 36 months. Unemployment rate unchanged at 3.7%.
"Hiring in the US was unexpectedly strong last month, as the American
economy continued to defy forecasts of a slowdown.
Employers added 216,000 jobs and the unemployment rate was unchanged at
3.7%, the Labor Department said.
All told, the US added 2.7 million jobs last year, slowing after the
boom of 4.8 million in 2022 and 6.4 million in 2021, but a faster pace
than pre-pandemic years.
Pay showed signs of rising, with average hourly earnings in December up
4.1% from a year earlier."
This is great news, when the economy is doing well, with low
unemployment, strong job gains, wage gains, and strong stock market performance, it benefits everyone. Now we have to find a way to get fuel prices down since they've gone up 70¢ since January 2021, about 30%.
Total inflation was 17.0% over the last three years while wage growth
was 19.1%.
What's not great is bicycle sales and bike shop income. The boom in
sales during the pandemic led to a post-pandemic bust. Manufacturers are squeezing the margins on shops. Direct to consumer eBike sales are
bypassing bike shops.
Ebbs and flows....I don't think any lows seen during the pandemic are a
fair comparison, especially considering OPEC manipulated supply after
that to drive prices back up from the lows of 2020.
A fair comparison IMHO should be made using 2019 which in the Boston
area saw a low of 2.45 and a high of 2.90. Greater Boston right now
shows an average of 3.40. In my area they've stabilized at ~$3/gallon
+/-. I actually paid 2.98 last week, but my area tends to run ~30C
cheaper than greater Boston. I don't see it dipping much below that, but considering inflation I think the prices I'm paying now aren't outrageous.
On 1/3/2024 4:17 PM, John B. wrote:
<snip>
When you're so stupid that all you can do is follow thehttps://www.investopedia.com/historical-us-unemployment-rate-by-year-7495494The "unemployment rate" is misnamed. It's actually the
number of
people who are not seeking unemployment benefits.
There's a massive
number of people who are unemployed and not seeking
unemployment
benefits.
pull on your leash, you get people like Scharf.
Now here we have an individual, who, based in his own
posts, was not
intelligent enough to graduate from high school, lives in
a crap house
in a slum, drives a cheap second hand car, whines about
the cost of
groceries and although having been paid as much a quarter
of a million
dollars a year now finds it necessary to augment his
Social Security
by trying to repair old, junk, second hand bicycles, which
in spite of
a bicycle being a rather simple mechanical device has
problems
accomplishing even the simplest repair, installing a seat
tube - "poke
it in the hole, stupid!
And he feels qualified to refer to others as "Stupid"?
Not sure who stated: "The "unemployment rate" is misnamed.
It's actually the number of people who are not seeking
unemployment benefits." But it's actually the opposite of that.
Those whose unemployment benefits have been exhausted, and
have not found work, are not counted as part of the
unemployment rate. They are the so-called "missing workers."
When the The Economic Policy Institute did a study, back in
2017, the reported unemployment rate was 4.4% but when they
factored in their estimate of "missing workers" it was 5.2% <https://www.epi.org/publication/missing-workers/>.
The "jobs created" number is probably a better gauge of the
job situation.
Carter: +10.117 million in 48 months.
Reagan: +16.332 million in 96 months.
H.W. Bush: +2.617 million in 48 months.
Clinton: +22.745 million in 96 months.
W. Bush: +0.523 million in 96 months.
Obama: +11.570 million in 96 months.
Trump: -2.670 million in 48 months.
Biden: +14.612 million in 35 months.
This data is available at
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/PAYEMS
Biden's performance in terms of job creation has been
amazingly good. Of course he was helped by all the jobs lost
during Trump's presidency because many of those lost jobs
came back after Trump lost the election, but even factoring
in Trump's terrible performance, the job gains under Biden
have been spectacularly good. Companies hire more workers
when they have a positive outlook about the future of the
economy.
On 1/5/2024 1:45 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
A fair comparison IMHO should be made using 2019 which in
the Boston area saw a low of 2.45 and a high of 2.90.
Greater Boston right now shows an average of 3.40. In my
area they've stabilized at ~$3/gallon +/-. I actually paid
2.98 last week, but my area tends to run ~30C cheaper than
greater Boston. I don't see it dipping much below that,
but considering inflation I think the prices I'm paying
now aren't outrageous.
Not that it matters to me, but: https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/ohio/youngstown
currently says $2.29 per gallon at ten local stations.
On 1/5/2024 1:45 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
A fair comparison IMHO should be made using 2019 which in the Boston
area saw a low of 2.45 and a high of 2.90. Greater Boston right now
shows an average of 3.40. In my area they've stabilized at ~$3/gallon
+/-. I actually paid 2.98 last week, but my area tends to run ~30C
cheaper than greater Boston. I don't see it dipping much below that,
but considering inflation I think the prices I'm paying now aren't
outrageous.
Not that it matters to me, but: https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/ohio/youngstown
currently says $2.29 per gallon at ten local stations.
On 1/5/2024 1:45 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
A fair comparison IMHO should be made using 2019 which in the Boston
area saw a low of 2.45 and a high of 2.90. Greater Boston right now
shows an average of 3.40. In my area they've stabilized at ~$3/gallon
+/-. I actually paid 2.98 last week, but my area tends to run ~30C
cheaper than greater Boston. I don't see it dipping much below that, but
considering inflation I think the prices I'm paying now aren't outrageous.
Not that it matters to me, but: https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/ohio/youngstown
currently says $2.29 per gallon at ten local stations.
as much as the SoCal guys do:
https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/california/los-angeles
Let's score that.
Uhaul 15' box truck Santa Clara to Houston $3379.
Houston to Santa Clara $1982
[for next Monday 8 January]
Actual numbers: https://freedomandprosperity.org/2023/blog/blue-to-red-tax-migration-part-v/
On 1/5/2024 6:30 PM, AMuzi wrote:
<snip>
as much as the SoCal guys do:
https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/california/los-angeles
Well I'd rather be spending $4 per gallon versus $2.29 per
gallon and live in California! Gasoline is such a small part
of what I spend money on that it's no big deal. I care a lot
more about things like crime and infrastructure.
https://www.numbeo.com/crime/in/San-Jose Crime Index: 49.68
Safety Index: 50.32
https://www.numbeo.com/crime/in/Los-Angeles Crime Index: 52.96
Safety Index: 47.04
https://www.numbeo.com/crime/in/San-Francisco Crime Index:
61.93
Safety Index: 38.07
https://www.numbeo.com/crime/in/Madison Crime Index: 34.57
Safety Index: 65.43
https://www.numbeo.com/crime/in/Youngstown Crime Index:
64.68 Safety Index: 35.32
Madison looks really good. OTOH, housing prices in
Youngstown, and the presumably safer suburbs, are amazingly
low.
On 1/6/2024 8:40 AM, AMuzi wrote:
<snip>
Let's score that.
Uhaul 15' box truck Santa Clara to Houston $3379.
Houston to Santa Clara $1982
[for next Monday 8 January]
Actual numbers:
https://freedomandprosperity.org/2023/blog/blue-to-red-tax-migration-part-v/
Houses are cheaper in Houston. A Californian could sell
their house and buy a larger house outright in Texas with
the proceeds.
But Texas in general, and Houston especially, is a pretty
dismal place to live. I used to go there for work pretty
often when Compaq was in that area.
Even Austin, where I've been spending a lot of time on a job
assignment, isn't great. Awful weather, mediocre restaurants
(except for high-priced BBQ), and not a lot to do in terms
of recreation. Upsides of Austin are the music culture and
the number of craft breweries.
While Texas is slowly turning Blue, it's still controlled by
right-wing wacko politicians for now.
Having worked in both Houston and in the Bay Area, I'd take Texas.
Except for Austin, where I agree with you. Nothing nice to say (50~100
miles west in the Hill Country is great cycling btw)
On 1/3/2024 9:14 PM, sms wrote:
On 1/3/2024 4:17 PM, John B. wrote:
<snip>
When you're so stupid that all you can do is follow thehttps://www.investopedia.com/historical-us-unemployment-rate-by-year-7495494The "unemployment rate" is misnamed. It's actually the
number of
people who are not seeking unemployment benefits.
There's a massive
number of people who are unemployed and not seeking
unemployment
benefits.
pull on your leash, you get people like Scharf.
Now here we have an individual, who, based in his own
posts, was not
intelligent enough to graduate from high school, lives in
a crap house
in a slum, drives a cheap second hand car, whines about
the cost of
groceries and although having been paid as much a quarter
of a million
dollars a year now finds it necessary to augment his
Social Security
by trying to repair old, junk, second hand bicycles,
which in spite of
a bicycle being a rather simple mechanical device has
problems
accomplishing even the simplest repair, installing a seat
tube - "poke
it in the hole, stupid!
And he feels qualified to refer to others as "Stupid"?
Not sure who stated: "The "unemployment rate" is misnamed.
It's actually the number of people who are not seeking
unemployment benefits." But it's actually the opposite of
that.
Those whose unemployment benefits have been exhausted, and
have not found work, are not counted as part of the
unemployment rate. They are the so-called "missing workers."
When the The Economic Policy Institute did a study, back
in 2017, the reported unemployment rate was 4.4% but when
they factored in their estimate of "missing workers" it
was 5.2% <https://www.epi.org/publication/missing-workers/>.
The "jobs created" number is probably a better gauge of
the job situation.
Carter: +10.117 million in 48 months.
Reagan: +16.332 million in 96 months.
H.W. Bush: +2.617 million in 48 months.
Clinton: +22.745 million in 96 months.
W. Bush: +0.523 million in 96 months.
Obama: +11.570 million in 96 months.
Trump: -2.670 million in 48 months.
Biden: +14.612 million in 35 months.
This data is available at
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/PAYEMS
Biden's performance in terms of job creation has been
amazingly good. Of course he was helped by all the jobs
lost during Trump's presidency because many of those lost
jobs came back after Trump lost the election, but even
factoring in Trump's terrible performance, the job gains
under Biden have been spectacularly good. Companies hire
more workers when they have a positive outlook about the
future of the economy.
Regarding numbers reported or produced or fabricated by this
administration:
https://www.ntd.com/us-payrolls-revised-lower-every-month-in-2023-post_939562.html
Well, it's early in the morning, but a quick reading of the above
seems to say that the government has reduced their estimate of jobs
and published a new, lower number. Or , in other terms, "Hey! we made
a mistake and here we've corrected it". That doesn't sound like a
major sin.
Didn't I read somewhere, "Let anyone among you who is without sin be
the first to throw a stone"?
Good old Tommy had promised to leave this site for ever and ever but
he has returned... with another blatant lie!
He states that "2023 is going to be the first year since WW II that
the GDP fell", but reality is
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GDP https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp
Or perhaps a blatant lie is too harsh. Perhaps it is simply stupidity?
On 1/7/2024 2:09 PM, John B. wrote:
<snip>
Well, it's early in the morning, but a quick reading of
the above
seems to say that the government has reduced their
estimate of jobs
and published a new, lower number. Or , in other terms,
"Hey! we made
a mistake and here we've corrected it". That doesn't sound
like a
major sin.
Didn't I read somewhere, "Let anyone among you who is
without sin be
the first to throw a stone"?
The New York Post is an ultra-right-wing publication and
they try to spin everything against Biden.
Such correction in jobs numbers and unemployment numbers
occur all the time and in both directions.
Take any cites from the New York Post with many many grains
of salt.
He was hired originally as nothing more than your job - a gopher.
On 1/4/2024 9:54 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
Expanding your clown act I see. Liebermann never designed anything.
I believe him way before I believe you.
He was hired originally as nothing more than your job - a gopher.
Yes, successful companies have a habit of giving their gophers
"Principal Engineer" titles
He couldn't even do that without pissing off the people who actually did the work so he was ejected.
That may be true.
If it was, he was at least smart enough to realize it
and manage being a reasonably successful consulting engineer.
(yes
tommy, we know, you're going to claim he's on welfare - that's another
lie of you own making). You on the other had didn't get it after being
kicked to the curb 15 times in 20 years
With people like you working at your company they don't have a chance of living long.
I'll just chalk that up with the accuracy of all your predictions...Red
Wave, anyone?
Disregarding the fact that I live in a country where costs are much,
much, lower then the U.S., I haven't been gainfully employed for about
20 years, because, during the 30, or so years I was employed I saved
my money and made conservative investments which now return me
sufficient income to live in a manner I am accustomed to.
So, I'm not looking for a job and wouldn't take a job if offered. Why
should someone like me be counted in any calculation of employed, or unemployed numbers?
On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 06:54:08 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
He was hired originally as nothing more than your job - a gopher.
Tom. It's interesting that you should mention that. Gofer was your
position at Berkeley Computer Corporation (BCC). See Pg 27
Distribution list -> Engineering Support, which I assume was some form
of gopher: <http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/bcc/originals/Admin/BCC_A-11.pdf>
But what have you designed? You talk a lot about, "I did this or I did
that, but didn't Jeff do a study that showed that your name appears
nowhere as sort of designer, patent holder, or any other evidence that
you did anything at all.
In fact you aren't even smart enough to spell the name of the
companies you claim to have worked for correctly.
On 1/7/2024 5:02 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 06:54:08 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
He was hired originally as nothing more than your job - a gopher.
Tom. It's interesting that you should mention that. Gofer was your
position at Berkeley Computer Corporation (BCC). See Pg 27
Distribution list -> Engineering Support, which I assume was some form
of gopher:
<http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/bcc/originals/Admin/BCC_A-11.pdf>
Interesting document.
I worked with Chuck Thacker (page 17) in the early 2000's. He was
employed by Microsoft at the time and was developing Microsoft's Tablet
PC. He came to our lab to do debugging since he was using a CPU & north bridge from the x86 semiconductor company I was working for. He told me
that Intel went to Microsoft and tried to get him fired because he chose
a Transmeta CPU, rather than an Intel CPU, for the Microsoft tablet
reference design, but Intel had no processor that was low enough wattage
for a tablet.
The Microsoft Windows based tablets were a big flop. Too heavy and too
short battery life. At least one of the designs I worked on showed up on
the Big Bang Theory <https://www.starringthecomputer.com/snapshots/big_bang_theory_s3e23_tc1100_1.jpg>.
On 1/7/2024 3:34 PM, John B. wrote:
<snip>
Disregarding the fact that I live in a country where costs are much,
much, lower then the U.S., I haven't been gainfully employed for about
20 years, because, during the 30, or so years I was employed I saved
my money and made conservative investments which now return me
sufficient income to live in a manner I am accustomed to.
So, I'm not looking for a job and wouldn't take a job if offered. Why
should someone like me be counted in any calculation of employed, or
unemployed numbers?
LOL, I was happily retired and then got a job offer from a company whose
CEO I know.
I was not counted in the unemployment number because I was not looking
for a job. I guess I was counted in the "jobs added" number since they
began collecting income taxes, Social Security taxes, and Medicare taxes.
It was fair to not include me as unemployed.
The numbers are good indicators of the health of the job market and the
level of unemployment. They are not perfect.
On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 18:07:09 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 1/7/2024 5:13 PM, sms wrote:
On 1/7/2024 2:09 PM, John B. wrote:
<snip>
Well, it's early in the morning, but a quick reading of
the above
seems to say that the government has reduced their
estimate of jobs
and published a new, lower number. Or , in other terms,
"Hey! we made
a mistake and here we've corrected it". That doesn't sound
like a
major sin.
Didn't I read somewhere, "Let anyone among you who is
without sin be
the first to throw a stone"?
The New York Post is an ultra-right-wing publication and
they try to spin everything against Biden.
Such correction in jobs numbers and unemployment numbers
occur all the time and in both directions.
Take any cites from the New York Post with many many grains
of salt.
meh. The numbers are the numbers, initially glowing then
revised closer to actual as has been the recent pattern.
How about left wing Bloomberg for the same report?
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-01-05/naughty-traders-bring-2023-s-payrolls-sins-into-2024
"It’s the start of 2024, and what better way to end Week No.
1 than a Bureau of Labor Statistics report on the state of
US employment? Would it finally provide clarity on the
direction of the US economy? Alas, it would not!
In fact, Friday’s report left investors as confused about
the economy’s prospects as ever.
...the confusion started at 8:30 a.m. New York time with the
revelation that nonfarm payrolls grew by a
better-than-expected 216,000 (stock futures down; bond
yields up). The prevailing explanation for the move was that
labor market strength risked fanning inflation, which would
delay the start of any Fed policy rate cuts. But just 90
minutes later, a separate report from the Institute for
Supply Management suggested that services employment was in
fact collapsing (stocks up; yields down). By about
lunchtime, the market had more or less figured out that the
signals from both releases were more or less useless — and
prices ended the day hardly changed from Thursday."
There is wide reportage of this current policy to report
falsely high numbers then revise downward quietly later:
https://schiffgold.com/key-gold-news/job-numbers-have-been-revised-down-for-seven-straight-months/
Well, the first thing is there isn't some little guy running around
counting noses. Yup, you over in the corner, you don't have a job and
you don't care, and guy with the wooden leg is looking for work but
only on a farm, and , and, and.
They work with guess work and surveys... Lets see now? Them there guys
over on the corner.... two of them gotta gun in their pocket and two
more got little bags of some sort funny looking stuff.... Hmmm, I
don't know if I want to interview them so we'll just mark them 2 for
and 2 against....
On 1/8/2024 12:03 AM, John B. wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 18:07:09 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 1/7/2024 5:13 PM, sms wrote:
On 1/7/2024 2:09 PM, John B. wrote:
<snip>
Well, it's early in the morning, but a quick reading of
the above
seems to say that the government has reduced their
estimate of jobs
and published a new, lower number. Or , in other terms,
"Hey! we made
a mistake and here we've corrected it". That doesn't sound
like a
major sin.
Didn't I read somewhere, "Let anyone among you who is
without sin be
the first to throw a stone"?
The New York Post is an ultra-right-wing publication and
they try to spin everything against Biden.
Such correction in jobs numbers and unemployment numbers
occur all the time and in both directions.
Take any cites from the New York Post with many many grains
of salt.
meh. The numbers are the numbers, initially glowing then
revised closer to actual as has been the recent pattern.
How about left wing Bloomberg for the same report?
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-01-05/naughty-traders-bring-2023-s-payrolls-sins-into-2024
"Its the start of 2024, and what better way to end Week No.
1 than a Bureau of Labor Statistics report on the state of
US employment? Would it finally provide clarity on the
direction of the US economy? Alas, it would not!
In fact, Fridays report left investors as confused about
the economys prospects as ever.
...the confusion started at 8:30 a.m. New York time with the
revelation that nonfarm payrolls grew by a
better-than-expected 216,000 (stock futures down; bond
yields up). The prevailing explanation for the move was that
labor market strength risked fanning inflation, which would
delay the start of any Fed policy rate cuts. But just 90
minutes later, a separate report from the Institute for
Supply Management suggested that services employment was in
fact collapsing (stocks up; yields down). By about
lunchtime, the market had more or less figured out that the
signals from both releases were more or less useless and
prices ended the day hardly changed from Thursday."
There is wide reportage of this current policy to report
falsely high numbers then revise downward quietly later:
https://schiffgold.com/key-gold-news/job-numbers-have-been-revised-down-for-seven-straight-months/
Well, the first thing is there isn't some little guy running around
counting noses. Yup, you over in the corner, you don't have a job and
you don't care, and guy with the wooden leg is looking for work but
only on a farm, and , and, and.
They work with guess work and surveys... Lets see now? Them there guys
over on the corner.... two of them gotta gun in their pocket and two
more got little bags of some sort funny looking stuff.... Hmmm, I
don't know if I want to interview them so we'll just mark them 2 for
and 2 against....
A series of random errors would not show as consistent large
'restatements' all in one direction.
If it was CE based, battery life and weight were the least of their
problems.
If it was CE based, battery life and weight were the least of their
problems.
A series of random errors would not show as consistent large
'restatements' all in one direction.
On 1/8/2024 5:52 AM, AMuzi wrote:
<snip>
A series of random errors would not show as consistent large
'restatements' all in one direction.
Look at page 5 of <https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf>.
They show both the original, and the revised, unemployment numbers.
In only one month, October, was there actually a revision to the
unemployment rate, and it was from 3.9% down to 3.8%.
Also in that document:
"6.Is the count of unemployed persons limited to just those people
receiving unemployment insurance benefits?
No; the estimate of unemployment is based on a monthly sample survey of >households. All persons who are without jobs and are actively seeking
and available to work are included among the unemployed. (People on
temporary layoff are included even if they do not actively seek work.)
There is no requirement or question relating to unemployment insurance >benefits in the monthly survey."
Actually a 4 year AF serviceman had a good chance at getting a job... >providing he actually had a marketable skill. The welders and
machinists I trained had no problems.
On Mon, 08 Jan 2024 09:47:18 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:52:14 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 1/8/2024 12:03 AM, John B. wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 18:07:09 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 1/7/2024 5:13 PM, sms wrote:
On 1/7/2024 2:09 PM, John B. wrote:
<snip>
Well, it's early in the morning, but a quick reading of
the above
seems to say that the government has reduced their
estimate of jobs
and published a new, lower number. Or , in other terms,
"Hey! we made
a mistake and here we've corrected it". That doesn't sound
like a
major sin.
Didn't I read somewhere, "Let anyone among you who is
without sin be
the first to throw a stone"?
The New York Post is an ultra-right-wing publication and
they try to spin everything against Biden.
Such correction in jobs numbers and unemployment numbers
occur all the time and in both directions.
Take any cites from the New York Post with many many grains
of salt.
meh. The numbers are the numbers, initially glowing then
revised closer to actual as has been the recent pattern.
How about left wing Bloomberg for the same report?
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-01-05/naughty-traders-bring-2023-s-payrolls-sins-into-2024
"It’s the start of 2024, and what better way to end Week No.
1 than a Bureau of Labor Statistics report on the state of
US employment? Would it finally provide clarity on the
direction of the US economy? Alas, it would not!
In fact, Friday’s report left investors as confused about
the economy’s prospects as ever.
...the confusion started at 8:30 a.m. New York time with the
revelation that nonfarm payrolls grew by a
better-than-expected 216,000 (stock futures down; bond
yields up). The prevailing explanation for the move was that
labor market strength risked fanning inflation, which would
delay the start of any Fed policy rate cuts. But just 90
minutes later, a separate report from the Institute for
Supply Management suggested that services employment was in
fact collapsing (stocks up; yields down). By about
lunchtime, the market had more or less figured out that the
signals from both releases were more or less useless — and
prices ended the day hardly changed from Thursday."
There is wide reportage of this current policy to report
falsely high numbers then revise downward quietly later:
https://schiffgold.com/key-gold-news/job-numbers-have-been-revised-down-for-seven-straight-months/
Well, the first thing is there isn't some little guy running around
counting noses. Yup, you over in the corner, you don't have a job and
you don't care, and guy with the wooden leg is looking for work but
only on a farm, and , and, and.
They work with guess work and surveys... Lets see now? Them there guys >>>> over on the corner.... two of them gotta gun in their pocket and two
more got little bags of some sort funny looking stuff.... Hmmm, I
don't know if I want to interview them so we'll just mark them 2 for
and 2 against....
A series of random errors would not show as consistent large
'restatements' all in one direction.
I tend to be skeptical when someone, especially a politician or
bureaucrat, tells me that the country is better or worse than it
appears.
Well :-) Of course, the Politician depends on a large percent of the population being his good buddies and as I have mentioned the best
method of ensuring that is a statement, "If elected I will give
you...". What should one expect?
On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:52:14 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 1/8/2024 12:03 AM, John B. wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 18:07:09 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 1/7/2024 5:13 PM, sms wrote:
On 1/7/2024 2:09 PM, John B. wrote:
<snip>
Well, it's early in the morning, but a quick reading of
the above
seems to say that the government has reduced their
estimate of jobs
and published a new, lower number. Or , in other terms,
"Hey! we made
a mistake and here we've corrected it". That doesn't sound
like a
major sin.
Didn't I read somewhere, "Let anyone among you who is
without sin be
the first to throw a stone"?
The New York Post is an ultra-right-wing publication and
they try to spin everything against Biden.
Such correction in jobs numbers and unemployment numbers
occur all the time and in both directions.
Take any cites from the New York Post with many many grains
of salt.
meh. The numbers are the numbers, initially glowing then
revised closer to actual as has been the recent pattern.
How about left wing Bloomberg for the same report?
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-01-05/naughty-traders-bring-2023-s-payrolls-sins-into-2024
"It’s the start of 2024, and what better way to end Week No.
1 than a Bureau of Labor Statistics report on the state of
US employment? Would it finally provide clarity on the
direction of the US economy? Alas, it would not!
In fact, Friday’s report left investors as confused about
the economy’s prospects as ever.
...the confusion started at 8:30 a.m. New York time with the
revelation that nonfarm payrolls grew by a
better-than-expected 216,000 (stock futures down; bond
yields up). The prevailing explanation for the move was that
labor market strength risked fanning inflation, which would
delay the start of any Fed policy rate cuts. But just 90
minutes later, a separate report from the Institute for
Supply Management suggested that services employment was in
fact collapsing (stocks up; yields down). By about
lunchtime, the market had more or less figured out that the
signals from both releases were more or less useless — and
prices ended the day hardly changed from Thursday."
There is wide reportage of this current policy to report
falsely high numbers then revise downward quietly later:
https://schiffgold.com/key-gold-news/job-numbers-have-been-revised-down-for-seven-straight-months/
Well, the first thing is there isn't some little guy running around
counting noses. Yup, you over in the corner, you don't have a job and
you don't care, and guy with the wooden leg is looking for work but
only on a farm, and , and, and.
They work with guess work and surveys... Lets see now? Them there guys
over on the corner.... two of them gotta gun in their pocket and two
more got little bags of some sort funny looking stuff.... Hmmm, I
don't know if I want to interview them so we'll just mark them 2 for
and 2 against....
A series of random errors would not show as consistent large
'restatements' all in one direction.
Well, what would you expect? Here we are, getting close to an election
year. Do you expect the G-ment to announce something like, "things are
really bad and you'll probably going to, lose your job", or "Well,
things aren't going so well as a great many people are going to be out
of work and the sale of bicycles is expected to fall to an all time
low"?
Hardly a good plan if one expected to be reelected and if the guy on
the top of the heap doesn't get elected the "ripple effect" will be
felt all the way to the bottom of the pile.
On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 8:16:25 AM UTC-8, sms wrote:because they do not go into the Office of Employment and file that they applied for 3 different jobs that week and providing the name of the businesses. Unemployment is so wide spread that even the post office is accepting people that cannot read! I am
On 1/8/2024 5:52 AM, AMuzi wrote:
<snip>
A series of random errors would not show as consistent largeLook at page 5 of <https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf>.
'restatements' all in one direction.
They show both the original, and the revised, unemployment numbers.
In only one month, October, was there actually a revision to the
unemployment rate, and it was from 3.9% down to 3.8%.
Also in that document:
"6.Is the count of unemployed persons limited to just those people
receiving unemployment insurance benefits?
No; the estimate of unemployment is based on a monthly sample survey of
households. All persons who are without jobs and are actively seeking
and available to work are included among the unemployed. (People on
temporary layoff are included even if they do not actively seek work.)
There is no requirement or question relating to unemployment insurance
benefits in the monthly survey."
--
“If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards
Vying for the tin foil hat award AGAIN? You might as well be showing us SNOPES or other "fact check" data that is the same garbage. Unemployment at 3 1/2% Only someone completely blind would say that. People have been dropped from the workforce count
So you, as usual, are full of crap and that's why you couldn't hold an elective office. NONE of the minimum wage jobs that are being advertised, minimum wages or not, can supply a living wage unless you're a kid being supported by your parents or astudent tuition loan.
The Congress SPENT the social security trust fund long ago and presently SS is being supported ONLY by the SS payments coming in' This is good ONLY to the point that the SS appropriations are offset by the SS income. At the moment that is the case butevery recession that the Democrats cause by making it harder for business brings disaster closer. And minimum wage jobs which are becoming the norm do not contribute enough to SS.
Why is it that you claim to be an engineer and cannot understand 6th grade economics? Or are you from a newer generation that wasn't taught economics in any grade? Are you like that ass Flunky and doesn't have a passing clue about how economics worksand believes that Janet Yellen is so fucking important that she would not converse on policy on Facebook? Even though SHE has apologized to this entire country for not following basic economics rules as I originally stated on this very group? Economics
Why is it that you people would EVEN discuss, let alone argue, about the actions of the Democrats EVERY ONE of what has been proven wrong? Why would evenslowly working its way around to charging Fauci? That Congress is PRESENTLY grilling Fauci for him teaching China how to develop and disseminate biological warfare weapons. Or are you too stupid to know what "gain of function" means?
ONE of you argue with my statement that every excess death between 4 and 40 was entirely caused by the Covid-19 vaccine? As if this isn't so fucking plain that there is a bill before Congress making mRNA vaccines illegal. That the legal system is
On 1/9/2024 7:15 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:because they do not go into the Office of Employment and file that they applied for 3 different jobs that week and providing the name of the businesses. Unemployment is so wide spread that even the post office is accepting people that cannot read!
Vying for the tin foil hat award AGAIN? You might as well be showing us SNOPES or other "fact check" data that is the same garbage. Unemployment at 3 1/2% Only someone completely blind would say that. People have been dropped from the workforce count
Hmm. Meanwhile the last couple restaurants I ate in both apologized for
the slow service, saying they are having trouble hiring workers. "Help >Wanted" signs abound here. It certainly doesn't seem like tons of
starving people are desperately looking for work.
On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 8:16:25 AM UTC-8, sms wrote:because they do not go into the Office of Employment and file that they applied for 3 different jobs that week and providing the name of the businesses. Unemployment is so wide spread that even the post office is accepting people that cannot read! I am
On 1/8/2024 5:52 AM, AMuzi wrote:
<snip>
A series of random errors would not show as consistent largeLook at page 5 of <https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf>.
'restatements' all in one direction.
They show both the original, and the revised, unemployment numbers.
In only one month, October, was there actually a revision to the
unemployment rate, and it was from 3.9% down to 3.8%.
Also in that document:
"6.Is the count of unemployed persons limited to just those people
receiving unemployment insurance benefits?
No; the estimate of unemployment is based on a monthly sample survey of
households. All persons who are without jobs and are actively seeking
and available to work are included among the unemployed. (People on
temporary layoff are included even if they do not actively seek work.)
There is no requirement or question relating to unemployment insurance
benefits in the monthly survey."
--
“If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards
Vying for the tin foil hat award AGAIN? You might as well be showing us SNOPES or other "fact check" data that is the same garbage. Unemployment at 3 1/2% Only someone completely blind would say that. People have been dropped from the workforce count
So you, as usual, are full of crap and that's why you couldn't hold an elective office. NONE of the minimum wage jobs that are being advertised, minimum wages or not, can supply a living wage unless you're a kid being supported by your parents or astudent tuition loan.
The Congress SPENT the social security trust fund long ago and presently SS is being supported ONLY by the SS payments coming in' This is good ONLY to the point that the SS appropriations are offset by the SS income. At the moment that is the case butevery recession that the Democrats cause by making it harder for business brings disaster closer. And minimum wage jobs which are becoming the norm do not contribute enough to SS.
Why is it that you claim to be an engineer and cannot understand 6th grade economics? Or are you from a newer generation that wasn't taught economics in any grade? Are you like that ass Flunky and doesn't have a passing clue about how economics worksand believes that Janet Yellen is so fucking important that she would not converse on policy on Facebook? Even though SHE has apologized to this entire country for not following basic economics rules as I originally stated on this very group? Economics
Why is it that you people would EVEN discuss, let alone argue, about the actions of the Democrats EVERY ONE of what has been proven wrong? Why would evenslowly working its way around to charging Fauci? That Congress is PRESENTLY grilling Fauci for him teaching China how to develop and disseminate biological warfare weapons. Or are you too stupid to know what "gain of function" means?
ONE of you argue with my statement that every excess death between 4 and 40 was entirely caused by the Covid-19 vaccine? As if this isn't so fucking plain that there is a bill before Congress making mRNA vaccines illegal. That the legal system is
On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 22:44:40 -0500, Frank Krygowskibecause they do not go into the Office of Employment and file that they applied for 3 different jobs that week and providing the name of the businesses. Unemployment is so wide spread that even the post office is accepting people that cannot read!
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 1/9/2024 7:15 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
Vying for the tin foil hat award AGAIN? You might as well be showing us SNOPES or other "fact check" data that is the same garbage. Unemployment at 3 1/2% Only someone completely blind would say that. People have been dropped from the workforce count
Hmm. Meanwhile the last couple restaurants I ate in both apologized for
the slow service, saying they are having trouble hiring workers. "Help
Wanted" signs abound here. It certainly doesn't seem like tons of
starving people are desperately looking for work.
Too many government welfare programs....
https://www.usa.gov/benefits
I read that minimum wages in California is now $16.00/hour or $124/8
hour day, or $640 a 40 hour week.
If,as you tell us even a growing boy can't get by on that salary tell
us how you make it on your S.S.?
On Tue Jan 9 22:44:40 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:count because they do not go into the Office of Employment and file that they applied for 3 different jobs that week and providing the name of the businesses. Unemployment is so wide spread that even the post office is accepting people that cannot read!
On 1/9/2024 7:15 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
Vying for the tin foil hat award AGAIN? You might as well be showing us SNOPES or other "fact check" data that is the same garbage. Unemployment at 3 1/2% Only someone completely blind would say that. People have been dropped from the workforce
Hmm. Meanwhile the last couple restaurants I ate in both apologized for
the slow service, saying they are having trouble hiring workers. "Help
Wanted" signs abound here. It certainly doesn't seem like tons of
starving people are desperately looking for work.
--
- Frank Krygowski
Here you've got your choise, Mexican restaurants, Americanized Mexican restaurants (fewer peppers) or Chinese. There is one Italian restaurant in town and it is too expensive and there is one Turkish restaurant next door to it. There is one supposedlyGreek Restaurant that wouldn't recogize Greek food if it was hit over the head with it. And the rest are fast food. All of the desent restaurants are out of business.
On 2/24/2024 3:34 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:Greek Restaurant that wouldn't recogize Greek food if it was hit over the head with it. And the rest are fast food. All of the desent restaurants are out of business.
On Tue Jan 9 22:44:40 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
Meanwhile the last couple restaurants I ate in both apologized for
the slow service, saying they are having trouble hiring workers. "Help
Wanted" signs abound here. It certainly doesn't seem like tons of
starving people are desperately looking for work.
Here you've got your choise, Mexican restaurants, Americanized Mexican restaurants (fewer peppers) or Chinese. There is one Italian restaurant in town and it is too expensive and there is one Turkish restaurant next door to it. There is one supposedly
Wow.
A quick Google maps search shows about 18 restaurants within about a
mile of my home. Most are pretty nice places, but a couple are just
pizza or fast food. My two favorite restaurants are each about 3 to 5
miles away, pretty pleasant to reach by bike. Within fifteen minutes
driving there must be 100 restaurants.
You need to move out of that hellhole.
On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 21:17:29 -0500, Frank Krygowskisupposedly Greek Restaurant that wouldn't recogize Greek food if it was hit over the head with it. And the rest are fast food. All of the desent restaurants are out of business.
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 2/24/2024 3:34 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Tue Jan 9 22:44:40 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
Meanwhile the last couple restaurants I ate in both apologized for
the slow service, saying they are having trouble hiring workers. "Help >>>> Wanted" signs abound here. It certainly doesn't seem like tons of
starving people are desperately looking for work.
Here you've got your choise, Mexican restaurants, Americanized Mexican restaurants (fewer peppers) or Chinese. There is one Italian restaurant in town and it is too expensive and there is one Turkish restaurant next door to it. There is one
Wow.
A quick Google maps search shows about 18 restaurants within about a
mile of my home. Most are pretty nice places, but a couple are just
pizza or fast food. My two favorite restaurants are each about 3 to 5
miles away, pretty pleasant to reach by bike. Within fifteen minutes
driving there must be 100 restaurants.
You need to move out of that hellhole.
I'd classify having 18 restaurants within a mile of my home as living
in a hellhole.
On 2/25/2024 2:57 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:supposedly Greek Restaurant that wouldn't recogize Greek food if it was hit over the head with it. And the rest are fast food. All of the desent restaurants are out of business.
On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 21:17:29 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 2/24/2024 3:34 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Tue Jan 9 22:44:40 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
Meanwhile the last couple restaurants I ate in both apologized for
the slow service, saying they are having trouble hiring workers. "Help >>>>> Wanted" signs abound here. It certainly doesn't seem like tons of
starving people are desperately looking for work.
Here you've got your choise, Mexican restaurants, Americanized Mexican restaurants (fewer peppers) or Chinese. There is one Italian restaurant in town and it is too expensive and there is one Turkish restaurant next door to it. There is one
Wow.
A quick Google maps search shows about 18 restaurants within about a
mile of my home. Most are pretty nice places, but a couple are just
pizza or fast food. My two favorite restaurants are each about 3 to 5
miles away, pretty pleasant to reach by bike. Within fifteen minutes
driving there must be 100 restaurants.
You need to move out of that hellhole.
I'd classify having 18 restaurants within a mile of my home as living
in a hellhole.
?? How so?
I don't eat the same thing every day and the waitress
selection is another plus.
?? How so?
I don't eat the same thing every day and the waitress selection is
another plus.
I made 5 times more money than a years worth of property taxes last month alone and it was a bad month. I pay no income taxes and I watch experts like you complain about sales taxes.
On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 21:06:18 GMT, Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I made 5 times more money than a years worth of property taxes last month alone and it was a bad month. I pay no income taxes and I watch experts like you complain about sales taxes.
Looking up your property tax history on the Alameda Country site, it
shows that you paid $2,813.95 this year (2023-2024). Five times that
would be:
$2,814 * 5 = $14,070 per month
$14,070 * 12 months/year = $168,840/year income.
To go from $1 million to $2 million "worth" almost overnight, you
would have had to have saved all the money you "made" for 5.9 years
without spending any money on food, taxes, gasoline, bicycle, etc.
That's not very likely.
It's really amazing that you could make that much money in such a
short time without a working knowledge of the arithmetic.
On 3/5/2024 7:33 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 21:06:18 GMT, Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I made 5 times more money than a years worth of property taxes last month alone and it was a bad month. I pay no income taxes and I watch experts like you complain about sales taxes.
Looking up your property tax history on the Alameda Country site, it
shows that you paid $2,813.95 this year (2023-2024). Five times that
would be:
$2,814 * 5 = $14,070 per month
$14,070 * 12 months/year = $168,840/year income.
To go from $1 million to $2 million "worth" almost overnight, you
would have had to have saved all the money you "made" for 5.9 years
without spending any money on food, taxes, gasoline, bicycle, etc.
That's not very likely.
It's really amazing that you could make that much money in such a
short time without a working knowledge of the arithmetic.
Not to mention how he made all that money in this horrible Biden recession!
I'm surprised however you didn't note how he claims to be making that
much without paying income tax - did tommy just admit to tax fraud?
To go from $1 million to $2 million "worth" almost overnight, you
would have had to have saved all the money you "made" for 5.9 years
without spending any money on food, *taxes*, gasoline, bicycle, etc.
That's not very likely.
On 3/6/2024 2:47 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Using the value of your house as part of your net worth is very
misleading, especially in the Bay Area. That is not real money that you
have access to. You'd have to sell your property and pay a lot of
capital gains taxes, then you'd have to move somewhere else and buy or
rent. There are no taxes on the paper increase in value of your house
until you sell. To claim that that paper profit as income is ludicrous.
There's also a reverse mortgage. Tom might have already done that in
2011. Between 02/17/2010 and 10/23/2011, the house was listed for
sale. The final entry was "listing removed" which means it didn't
sell.
On 3/7/2024 2:27 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
<snip>
There's also a reverse mortgage. Tom might have already done that in
2011. Between 02/17/2010 and 10/23/2011, the house was listed for
sale. The final entry was "listing removed" which means it didn't
sell.
Possible, but unlikely, that he would fall for the reverse-mortgage scam.
Banks are so picky right now that they're not going to lend a lot of
money to someone with no job, no assets other than some home equity, and
only income from Social Security.
On 3/7/2024 6:50 PM, sms wrote:
On 3/7/2024 2:27 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
<snip>
There's also a reverse mortgage. Tom might have already done that in
2011. Between 02/17/2010 and 10/23/2011, the house was listed for
sale. The final entry was "listing removed" which means it didn't
sell.
Possible, but unlikely, that he would fall for the reverse-mortgage scam.
wait...you remember this is kunich we're talking about...the guy who
thinks there was no recession before obama took office and thinks the >secretary of the treasury directs the chairman of the fed.....is
unlikely to fall for a financial scam?
Setting aside that imo tommy is probably the _most_ likely person in
this forum to get scammed, I don't think reverse mortgages are any more >susceptible to fraud or mismanagement than any other mortgage-type of >financial tool. Certain types of reverse mortgages are sponsored and >guaranteed by the government.
https://www.forbes.com/advisor/mortgages/reverse-mortgages/
Banks are so picky right now that they're not going to lend a lot of
money to someone with no job, no assets other than some home equity, and
only income from Social Security.
Actually, someone with no job, no assets other than some home equity,
and only income from Social Security are exactly the demographic that
reverse mortgages target, especially those run by less reputable companies.
On Wed Mar 6 14:47:49 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:speel?
On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 16:14:19 -0500, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On 3/5/2024 7:33 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:Yep, it's all Biden's fault:
On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 21:06:18 GMT, Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I made 5 times more money than a years worth of property taxes last month alone and it was a bad month. I pay no income taxes and I watch experts like you complain about sales taxes.
Looking up your property tax history on the Alameda Country site, it
shows that you paid $2,813.95 this year (2023-2024). Five times that
would be:
$2,814 * 5 = $14,070 per month
$14,070 * 12 months/year = $168,840/year income.
To go from $1 million to $2 million "worth" almost overnight, you
would have had to have saved all the money you "made" for 5.9 years
without spending any money on food, taxes, gasoline, bicycle, etc.
That's not very likely.
It's really amazing that you could make that much money in such a
short time without a working knowledge of the arithmetic.
Not to mention how he made all that money in this horrible Biden recession! >>
01/20/2023
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/85qODEJbdFE/m/uHojwq_tAQAJ> >> "If I had not needed to cash in my stock option to gain cancer
treatments for my mother and then getting a divorce, I would easily
have been a multimillionaire. Instead I am only worth about a million
and a half due to Biden's latest market recession."
I'm surprised however you didn't note how he claims to be making that
much without paying income tax - did tommy just admit to tax fraud?
I did include *taxes*. See below.
To go from $1 million to $2 million "worth" almost overnight, you
would have had to have saved all the money you "made" for 5.9 years
without spending any money on food, *taxes*, gasoline, bicycle, etc.
That's not very likely.
Hmmm... I just took a closer look at Tom's current property tax bill.
After 2011, Tom paid both 1st and 2nd property tax payments before the
1st payment was due, usually between October and December. Very good.
Before 2011, Tom was routinely paying a 10% late fee for paying the
first installment late. This time, he again began paying the 1st
installment late, which again included a 10% ($134) late fee. Is Tom
running out of cash? It's difficult to tell, but something certainly
has changed.
According to CA Govt Code ? 6254.21 (2021), Tom is entitled to hide
his physical address and information in various ways. None of these
ways would stop anyone beyond a total beginner from searching the
internet and finding any public information. However, I'll pretend to
follow the law and not provide URL's.
So, according to Liebermann, after I had my head injury and had severe memory failures I was screwing up on my taxes. And after I started getting clear of that damage I started paying my taxes on time or early, Do you all have his intensely interested
On 3/8/2024 12:24 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
After Obama's Great Recession, which Flunky does not believe in, (BTW,
this is a pure indication that Flunky does not have any investments)
my investments went from $880,000 to $330,000 or more aptly, I was
ruined.
What in HELL did you invest in? It must not have been U.S. stocks. See https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2019/business/stock-market-by-president/index.html
On 3/8/2024 4:36 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 3/8/2024 12:24 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
After Obama's Great Recession, which Flunky does not believe in,
(BTW, this is a pure indication that Flunky does not have any
investments) my investments went from $880,000 to $330,000 or more
aptly, I was ruined.
What in HELL did you invest in? It must not have been U.S. stocks. See
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2019/business/stock-market-by-president/index.html
Tommy didn't invest in anything. He has no investments other than his
house which his mom gave to him. He never lost anything during the bush/cheney recession because he didn't have anything invested.
He's so brole he can't even afford to replace the clogged faucets in his house, and he's such a cuckold his wife wouldn't let him spend the money
on it anyway.
IOW, he was ruined before he ever got a start.
On 3/8/2024 1:53 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 3/8/2024 4:36 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 3/8/2024 12:24 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
After Obama's Great Recession, which Flunky does not believe in,
(BTW, this is a pure indication that Flunky does not have any
investments) my investments went from $880,000 to $330,000 or more
aptly, I was ruined.
What in HELL did you invest in? It must not have been U.S. stocks. See
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2019/business/stock-market-by-president/index.html
Tommy didn't invest in anything. He has no investments other than his
house which his mom gave to him. He never lost anything during the
bush/cheney recession because he didn't have anything invested.
He's so brole he can't even afford to replace the clogged faucets in
his house, and he's such a cuckold his wife wouldn't let him spend the
money on it anyway.
IOW, he was ruined before he ever got a start.
He’s just confused about what the market did and when.
Clinton
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1993 9.97%
1994 1.33%
1995 37.20%
1996 22.68%
1997 33.10%
1998 28.34%
1999 20.89%
2000 -9.03%
Obama
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2009 +25.94%
2010 +14.82%
2011 +2.10%
2012 +15.89%
2013 +32.15%
2014 +13.52%
2015 +1.38%
2016 +11.77%
Biden
-----
2021 +28.70%
2022 -25.00%
2023 +26.29%
It was 2001-2008, during the George W. Bush presidency, when the market
had some steep declines due to the Republican-caused recession. The root cause of the recession was defaults on mortgage loans, caused by
Republican deregulation of the banking industry. It was Republicans that sought to weaken bank regulation.
Historically, the stock market has done better under Democratic administrations, “the S&P 500 returned 8.4% annually on average under Democrats, versus 2.7% under Republicans, a difference of 5.7%
percentage points.”
However it's important to understand that the stock market is not
necessarily the best indication of how the economy is doing. The
employment rate and unemployment rate are also important. Employment
went up by 0.13% under W, 1.04% under Obama, fell 0.51% under Trump, and
has gone up by 4.3% under Biden. For unemployment, the unemployment rate
fell under Democratic presidents by an average of 0.8 percentage points, while it increased under Republican presidents by an average of 1.1 percentage points.
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