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    From AMuzi@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 17 09:13:54 2023
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    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Zen Cycle@21:1/5 to AMuzi on Mon Dec 18 10:00:28 2023
    On 12/18/2023 9:31 AM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 12/17/2023 10:39 PM, Kenneth Litwak wrote:
    On Sunday, December 17, 2023 at 7:13:59 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
    On 12/17/2023 1:39 AM, Kenneth Litwak wrote:
    I needed to fix a flat on my mountain bike today. I did not ride it
    much where we used to live, but where we now live, Oceanside, CA,
    there are no flat roads. It has been a very long time since I had to
    fix a rear tire flat on this bike, and I had a really hard time
    getting the tire off the rim. So, I went to the nearest bike shop.
    This is not the sort of bike shop I wanted to go to. Lots of ebikes
    and no major brands for tires or tubes. I found a tire the right
    size, 26 x1.5" and bought it. The brand was CST. I was looking for
    Specialized or Bontrager, but they didn't have any and the main guy
    there said that Specialized does not make tires. Huh? I have used
    Specialized Snake Skin tires on my road bike. What do you mean
    Specialized doesn't make tires. He claimed that all the Specialized
    tires are made by someone else and then labeled Specialized.
    Really???? I wanted to get a new tire and so I bougth a CST tire.
    I've never heard of CST. I haven't used it yet--I couldn't get it
    completely on the rim, but I wonder if I should take it back. I
    don't want to spend $40.00 on some Chinese off-brand. I also wanted
    a tube from a known company. I guess I should have left because I
    ended up with an Ultracycle tube. Should I try to get my money back
    becuase this is cheap junk, or do you think it will be okay? Any
    tips for getting the last few inches of one side of a tire on to the
    rim? I've never had a tire resist me so much.Thanks.,
    CST is a major manufacturer and may well have made your
    'Specialized' product, I don't know that but CST does a huge
    volume for other labels. To clarify, Specialized does not
    make tires. They started with Mituboshi Japan 45 years ago,
    but now source many tire vendors.

    Back to the technical side, 26-inch decimal series is known
    for easy tire mounting generally (there are indeed
    exceptions!). In my experience the rim liner is your
    biggest variable, rim brand/model second and tires least
    likely to vary as much from one to another.

    If it's a solid section rim (nipples stick up inside) use a
    rubber liner which is not so wide as to occlude the tire
    seating ledges on either side. Overly thick, doubled or
    overly wide rubber rim liners make tire mounting quite painful.

    If it's a hollow section rim, use a fabric liner, as thin as
    you can find, which fully covers the nipple wells. Often
    previous problems have led someone to layer up various tapes
    until tire mounting is difficult.

    Then again, if none of those problems are seen, some rims
    are just badly designed with insufficient difference between
    tire seat and center section depths. Live with it or buy a
    wheel.

    Or certainly try another tire, they are not all that expensive. A
    mechanic was



    Thanks, Andrew. I went to a better bike store, one for serious
    cyclists. A mechanic there managed to get my tire on all the way. I
    found that the label said "559", not "599." I guess that means it
    isn't right for my rim. THe next time I have to fix a flat on my rear
    wheel, I'll buy a new tire and tube No more trips to Omega BIkes in
    OCeanside. The peopelp at Trek North County were much better, as I
    expected they would be. I would have gone there first, but it was
    closing time and they were 20-30 minutes away. I could buy a new tire
    now to keep one on hand, but the last time I had spare MTB tires, they
    grew brittle and unusuable.
    Thanks

    Ken

    All's well that ends well but the "599" number was a typo. There is no
    such size.  Next closest thing, an EA-1 597, would leave room for your entire hand between tire and rim and room to spare.

    Did you ask second tech why the tire mounting was difficult for you? Something not optimized (rim liner? too wide a tube?) or your technique?
    or a truly undersize (unlikely) tire?


    An anecdote I can offer was a set of Fortezza Tricomps I tried to mount
    onto a set of Rolf Vector Pro rims 20 years ago. I couldn't get them on
    no matter how much I tried. I took the tires and rims to the shop where
    I bought the tires (they were our team sponsor at the time) and asked
    the shop manager if he had any ideas. He gave it a try as well....no
    luck. He ended up swapping the tricomps for a set of Michelins which
    mounted up with no problem.

    The interesting thing is that I was replacing a set of Tricomps I
    already had on the Rolfs. Those mounted without issue as well, it was
    just this one pair that wouldn't go.
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