• Re: No. 113 of The Cowardly Flunkymonkey's Ignorance

    From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to funkmasterxx@hotmail.com on Mon Dec 11 18:39:54 2023
    On Mon, 11 Dec 2023 09:54:23 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com" <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

    That's his painful legacy - no one buys his trash romance novels, every article he had published at the Irish Examiner has been purged, and now - in order to try to stave of the embarrassment of his wasted life being exposed, he would have us believe
    the only interaction he ever had with the Irish Examiner was having a pint in the bar below their office (https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/FbXOZ3lmDvo/m/RawxCPQUAwAJ) when we have direct evidence the he _was_ employed by them.

    I suspect that the bar below the Irish Examiner office might also be
    imaginary. The problem is that none of the two "offices" seem to have
    a basement. There's a third building, but it houses the Irish Times: <https://www.irishexaminer.com/contact-us/>

    I'll assume it's the largest building on Assumption Rd. Please
    correct me if I made a bad guess. Assumption Rd is either a well
    named accident or an editorial opinion: <https://maps.app.goo.gl/pvmCrwWcryxyDVLT8>

    Looking at the building with stree view, I couldn't find any evidence
    of a pub on the ground floor. I also couldn't find anything that
    resembles a basement:
    <https://maps.app.goo.gl/SZJgdBENnm3c4jgYA>
    Looking through the windows of the alleged basement, I find a pile of
    broken down tables:
    <https://maps.app.goo.gl/wBJ2FuCGt7QxQFRMA>
    That doesn't look like a pub. Photos are from July 2022.

    Same with the nearby editorial offices. No basement and no pub in
    sight:
    <https://maps.app.goo.gl/n5y3EGYsvxtSGxgg9>
    The Irish Examiner Editorial Offices are behind the no parking sign
    and the illegally parked FastWay delivery van. There is something
    called the "Wine Buff" two doorways to the left, but that doesn't
    sound like a pub.

    Incidentally, Cork County, Ireland has the most pubs (955). <https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/revealed-how-many-pubs-are-in-each-county-of-ireland-and-where-to-find-the-fewest-people-per-pub/36606544.html>

    So, where is this mysterious basement pub and what is its name?



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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to funkmasterxx@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 12 11:59:27 2023
    On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 02:41:40 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com" <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 9:40:08?PM UTC-5, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Dec 2023 09:54:23 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
    <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    (chomp)

    So, where is this mysterious basement pub and what is its name?

    It's probably the one where he received those two phone calls from US presidents.

    Well, if those phone calls arrived during the Cold War Era, the state
    of the art security device would have been something like this: <https://www.facebook.com/GroovyHistory/photos/maxwell-smart-don-adams-and-chief-edward-platt-using-the-cone-of-silence-in-get-/2187397338237318/>
    <https://www.google.com/search?q=maxwell+smart+cone+of+silence&tbm=isch>



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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to cyclintom@gmail.com on Tue Dec 12 12:44:18 2023
    On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 07:15:14 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
    <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

    Is there even once that Flunky has shown that he actually knows
    something? As an engineer he has shown that he couldn't fix a
    blown lightbulb. So now he has shown that he can even make up
    stories about the employment of someone else. What a turd.

    "10 Characteristics of a Successful Engineer" <https://slcontrols.com/en/10-characteristics-of-a-successful-engineer/>

    Tom, let's see how you score:

    1. Insatiable Curiosity
    Nope. You discourage curiosity. You have the answer to all questions available well in advance. When someone (like me) becomes curious
    about your sources of misinformation, you disappear.

    2. Continuously Seeks to Improve
    Nope. I don't see any evidence of you attending advanced courses,
    reading technical books, or keeping up to date in technical areas.
    While I will admit that this is time consuming and difficult, you show
    no evidence of even trying to improve your skills.

    3. Creativity and Innovation
    Maybe. Some of your creative explanations about how things work and
    how to fix them certainly display creativity. However, it is
    generally expected that innovations should eventually be successful. I
    haven't seen any RECENT involvement in innovative product design, but
    some of your older work-related designs might qualify. Programming
    medical device firmware might be creative or innovative, but I'm not
    qualified to make that determination for firmware.

    4. Problem Solving
    Nope. Creating problems is the opposite of problem solving. Based on
    the large number of corrections to your attempts at solving problems,
    I suspect that you've created far more problems than solutions.

    5. Good Soft Skills Including Communication & Leadership
    Nope. Check the list of "Tip for improving soft skills". You fail
    badly in all areas: <https://slcontrols.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Tips-for-Improving-soft-skills.jpg>
    With the possible exception of political discussions, all your
    communications in RBT have resulted in a highly emotional argument and
    exchange of insults.

    6. Team Player
    Maybe. Judging by your interactions with Jobst Brandt and your
    opinions of your riding companions, I would not want to be on the same
    team as you. You can't build a team based on confrontation and
    criticism. I'll give you the benefit of my doubt because I have no
    way to verify your amazing stories. For what it's worth, I'm a
    terrible team player, but that has no effect on your abilities.

    7. Mathematical and Analytical Abilities Plus Logical Thinking
    Nope. Sorry, but your math sucks and your ability to properly analyze
    problems is equally bad. Want to finish the calculations on how long
    a Di2 battery will last? You didn't even try, even after I worked out
    probably 80% of the calculations.

    8. Attention to Detail
    Unknown. I haven't seen anything you've actually designed or worked
    on. The eBay photos of your blood testing machines are insufficient
    for me to make a determination.

    9. Embrace Change
    Unknown. That might be an understatement. What I see is that you
    want to change everything. No person or company is able to design or
    produce anything that satisfies you. Your solution is always to
    change everything, thus making someone else's design, yours.

    10. Optimistic
    Nope. Most of your postings in RBT are predictions of inevitable
    doom. Most of these predications are political, but there are a few
    that involve bicycle design and infrastructure that qualify. For
    example, your warning that carbon fiber frames will self destruct:
    "Danger From Carbon Fiber Bikes" (July 10, 2016) <https://www.twospoke.com/threads/danger-from-carbon-fiber-bikes.17594/>
    "On the way back to Castro Valley, my friend Tom Kunich (who was also
    riding a full carbon fiber Colnago C-40) crashed on the downhill."


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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to funkmasterxx@hotmail.com on Wed Dec 13 20:15:30 2023
    On Wed, 13 Dec 2023 14:47:27 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com" <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

    You'll also recall Tommy has repeatedly bragged about
    his dedication by saying he was always the first one
    in and the last to leave at every company he worked for.

    I recall Tom writing something like that, but I'm not having any luck
    finding his statement with Google Groups search. Probably because I'm
    really tired. I've been dragging around a common cold for the last 8
    days, lost 6 lbs and have drugged myself to get any sleep every
    evening. About all I can do today, without thinking, is sleep and
    write things in RBT.

    One of the red flags were were told to watch for was someone
    who claimed to be "the first one in in the morning and the
    last one out at night". HP's position was that an individual
    that made those claims was a poor time manager and/or made a
    lot of mistakes they needed to fix, or they were not being
    quite truthful. Granted in my experience at start-ups, such
    dedication was noted and appreciated since there was so much
    work to do and so few people to do it.

    I was last to arrive in the morning and last to leave at night. I did
    not volunteer to work weekends. It was not an easy drive and
    typically took about 60 minutes:
    <https://maps.app.goo.gl/rUeChT6pXgWyRH46A>

    Most of my employment was at Intech Inc, which had about 175 employees distributed among 3 radically different divisions. The marine radio
    division had about 50 employees at its peak. Radio engineering
    department was 3 engineers and 2 techs also at the company peak.

    I was warned about being a bad time manager and to avoid (unpaid)
    overtime. According to the warning, worker efficiency rapidly
    deteriorated after about 8 or 9 hrs of work per day. I tested myself
    by counting mistakes and found the numbers to be accurate. So, I
    worked 9 hrs per day, plus 1/2 hr lunch mostly spent sleeping under my
    desk, and 2 hrs on the road. In order to avoid peak traffic hours, I
    would arrive at about 9:30AM and leave at about 8:30PM. I'm a "night
    person" and tend to do my best work after hours when there are no
    distractions.

    When management would ask me if I could work overtime because a
    project was late, I would point out that I was already working 1 hour
    of overtime every day, 5 days per week. My dedication was duly noted
    and I was adequately compensated with raises and stock options. The
    few times where I was asked to appear on a weekend or holiday were a
    total waste of time and effort.

    My self scheduling system worked well for me, but created problems for
    others. Management complained that I never attended meetings.
    However, when I did attend, they instantly regretted it and quickly
    declared that as long as I filed regular progress reports, I would not
    need to attend meetings. I did attend design reviews, because that
    was essential for doing my job.

    I suspect that Tom's claim of "first in, last out" might be true. I've
    seen engineers who do that burn out in a year or two. It can be done,
    but not for very long. Tom's record of short term employment might be
    an indication of serial burnout. <https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-kunich-22012/details/experience/>
    (Tom. Please fix the overlapping dates between Diablo Research and
    Tality).

    However, In any established company with say over 100 people,
    I believe HPs position holds true. That isn't to say putting in
    extra hours at a small company should _not_ be necessary, even on
    a regular basis, but consistent 12 hour days at an established
    company is an indication that either the employee or their manager
    isn't very good at their job....unless your the type of person
    that's into that sort of thing.

    I don't know about HP, but I was that sort of person that was willing
    to put in consistent 9 or 10 hrs days. At the time, I had no family,
    no commitments, no friends, no social life, no mortgage, no
    responsibilities, and no clue where I was going. I had only one goal
    in life, which was to get my current projects working and into
    production.

    However, as I accumulated friends, responsibilities, two mortgages, a
    sailboat, and numerous side projects (consulting), I switched to a
    more sane timeline or 9 work hours per day, no overtime, and no
    weekends. The real limitation is whether one want to work like that.
    Most people do not want to, or at least don't want to do it for very
    long. By the time I realized that I didn't want to live like that, I
    decided to become self-employed, which resulted in working about 10
    hrs per day, 7 days per week. That wasn't what was suppose to happen,
    but that was the result.

    Drivel: I thought my eyes were getting tired because all the
    characters on my LCD monitor were becoming fuzzy. Then, I pushed the
    "Auto" button and everything became clear again.



    --
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    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 13 22:35:46 2023
    On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 12:30:35 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    When I was working "in the bush" building oil well drilling locations
    we worked, literally, from Can to Can't. The Helicopters we used had
    no instrument flying capability and could only fly when they could see
    the horizon so you have to be at the Heli Pad before daylight to make
    the first flight and they would pick us up at the job site (hopefully)
    early enough to get back to the Camp before dark. 7 days a week for 4
    weeks.

    I've had the displeasure of enduring various medical procedures. My
    mantra was "I can tolerate anything as long as I know when it will be
    over". You knew that it would be over in 4 weeks. However, if such a
    schedule was imposed without limit, you would not have lasted even the
    4 weeks.

    --
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    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to Jeff Liebermann on Thu Dec 14 10:04:19 2023
    On 12/13/2023 10:15 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Wed, 13 Dec 2023 14:47:27 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com" <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

    You'll also recall Tommy has repeatedly bragged about
    his dedication by saying he was always the first one
    in and the last to leave at every company he worked for.

    I recall Tom writing something like that, but I'm not having any luck
    finding his statement with Google Groups search. Probably because I'm
    really tired. I've been dragging around a common cold for the last 8
    days, lost 6 lbs and have drugged myself to get any sleep every
    evening. About all I can do today, without thinking, is sleep and
    write things in RBT.

    One of the red flags were were told to watch for was someone
    who claimed to be "the first one in in the morning and the
    last one out at night". HP's position was that an individual
    that made those claims was a poor time manager and/or made a
    lot of mistakes they needed to fix, or they were not being
    quite truthful. Granted in my experience at start-ups, such
    dedication was noted and appreciated since there was so much
    work to do and so few people to do it.

    I was last to arrive in the morning and last to leave at night. I did
    not volunteer to work weekends. It was not an easy drive and
    typically took about 60 minutes:
    <https://maps.app.goo.gl/rUeChT6pXgWyRH46A>

    Most of my employment was at Intech Inc, which had about 175 employees distributed among 3 radically different divisions. The marine radio
    division had about 50 employees at its peak. Radio engineering
    department was 3 engineers and 2 techs also at the company peak.

    I was warned about being a bad time manager and to avoid (unpaid)
    overtime. According to the warning, worker efficiency rapidly
    deteriorated after about 8 or 9 hrs of work per day. I tested myself
    by counting mistakes and found the numbers to be accurate. So, I
    worked 9 hrs per day, plus 1/2 hr lunch mostly spent sleeping under my
    desk, and 2 hrs on the road. In order to avoid peak traffic hours, I
    would arrive at about 9:30AM and leave at about 8:30PM. I'm a "night
    person" and tend to do my best work after hours when there are no distractions.

    When management would ask me if I could work overtime because a
    project was late, I would point out that I was already working 1 hour
    of overtime every day, 5 days per week. My dedication was duly noted
    and I was adequately compensated with raises and stock options. The
    few times where I was asked to appear on a weekend or holiday were a
    total waste of time and effort.

    My self scheduling system worked well for me, but created problems for others. Management complained that I never attended meetings.
    However, when I did attend, they instantly regretted it and quickly
    declared that as long as I filed regular progress reports, I would not
    need to attend meetings. I did attend design reviews, because that
    was essential for doing my job.

    I suspect that Tom's claim of "first in, last out" might be true. I've
    seen engineers who do that burn out in a year or two. It can be done,
    but not for very long. Tom's record of short term employment might be
    an indication of serial burnout. <https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-kunich-22012/details/experience/>
    (Tom. Please fix the overlapping dates between Diablo Research and
    Tality).

    However, In any established company with say over 100 people,
    I believe HPs position holds true. That isn't to say putting in
    extra hours at a small company should _not_ be necessary, even on
    a regular basis, but consistent 12 hour days at an established
    company is an indication that either the employee or their manager
    isn't very good at their job....unless your the type of person
    that's into that sort of thing.

    I don't know about HP, but I was that sort of person that was willing
    to put in consistent 9 or 10 hrs days. At the time, I had no family,
    no commitments, no friends, no social life, no mortgage, no
    responsibilities, and no clue where I was going. I had only one goal
    in life, which was to get my current projects working and into
    production.

    However, as I accumulated friends, responsibilities, two mortgages, a sailboat, and numerous side projects (consulting), I switched to a
    more sane timeline or 9 work hours per day, no overtime, and no
    weekends. The real limitation is whether one want to work like that.
    Most people do not want to, or at least don't want to do it for very
    long. By the time I realized that I didn't want to live like that, I
    decided to become self-employed, which resulted in working about 10
    hrs per day, 7 days per week. That wasn't what was suppose to happen,
    but that was the result.

    Drivel: I thought my eyes were getting tired because all the
    characters on my LCD monitor were becoming fuzzy. Then, I pushed the
    "Auto" button and everything became clear again.




    Sounds great what does 'auto' actually do?

    https://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch001155.htm

    Mine only has inscrutable hieroglyphic buttons, nothing in
    English.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to frkrygow@sbcglobal.net on Thu Dec 14 09:41:21 2023
    On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 10:07:31 -0500, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 12/13/2023 11:15 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

    Drivel: I thought my eyes were getting tired because all the
    characters on my LCD monitor were becoming fuzzy. Then, I pushed the
    "Auto" button and everything became clear again.

    I could use such an "Auto" button for regular daily life, just walking >around.

    It was really a comment about the quality of the monitor. My LCD
    monitor of the week is an HP w2408. The settings seem to drift with temperature. When I first turned it on, it self calibrated (the
    equivalent of pushing the "auto" button) the room was rather cold and everything looked good. However, when I started the wood burner later
    in the day, the room temperature warmed up causing the monitor control
    settings to drift. Now, I'm finding myself compulsively punching the
    "auto" button. The reason I'm concerned is that I'm scheduled for
    cataract eye surgery in about 3 weeks. The monitor seems in need of
    some repair (probably bulging electrolytic capacitors) but that can
    wait.

    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
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  • From sms@21:1/5 to Jeff Liebermann on Thu Dec 14 10:28:49 2023
    On 12/13/2023 8:15 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

    <snip>

    Drivel: I thought my eyes were getting tired because all the
    characters on my LCD monitor were becoming fuzzy. Then, I pushed the
    "Auto" button and everything became clear again.

    When was the last time that you degaussed your LCD monitor?

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00011UYJU

    Perhaps you could sell Tom a degaussing coil for his monitor along with
    a set of Imperial Torx bits.

    --
    “If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
    really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
    indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
    they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to AMuzi on Thu Dec 14 10:29:05 2023
    On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 10:04:19 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 12/13/2023 10:15 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    Drivel: I thought my eyes were getting tired because all the
    characters on my LCD monitor were becoming fuzzy. Then, I pushed the
    "Auto" button and everything became clear again.

    Sounds great what does 'auto' actually do? >https://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch001155.htm
    Mine only has inscrutable hieroglyphic buttons, nothing in
    English.

    The short answer:
    "The AUTO adjustment key restores the optimal screen position, phase
    and clock settings at the press of a single button, eliminating the
    need to navigate through OSD (On Screen Display) menus and control
    keys."

    "Auto" doesn't adjust anything set by the hieroglyphic symbology shown
    in the ComputerHope.com link. You can punch any or all of the buttons
    shown and it will not change what "auto" changes.

    First, some basics. The video output from older computers is analog
    and uses a VGA connector (15 pin). The video output for more recent
    computers are either HDMI or DP (display port), which are digital. My
    HP monitor uses analog and VGA.

    Analog has a tendency to drift. What's drifting in this case is the
    phase relationship between the various dot (pixel) colors on the
    screen. The trick is to make the various colors converge in the same
    place on the screen resulting in a "sharp" character image instead of
    an out of focus blob.

    Part of the analog video system are 3 analog to digital (A/D)
    converters, one each for the 3 color channels (red, green, blue). The
    clock pitch and phase relationship (timing) between the 3 channels is
    what's drifting. All 3 have to work together or you will see a blob
    instead of a dot. When you punch the "auto" button, you might notice
    a 2 to 4 second delay, while the screen goes mostly black, while the
    system re-calibrates itself. There are various schemes for
    calibration (which I won't go into), but the result is that all 3 A/D converters are now working together and producing sharp pixels instead
    of blobs.

    By using digital video as in HDMI and DP, it is no long necessary to
    adjust the phase relationships between the various colors to get a
    decent picture. However, it your monitor has both HDMI/DP and VGA or
    TV inputs, it needs an "auto" button. If your monitor is HDMI or DP
    only, then there is no "auto" button.

    Getting a descent LCD picture is far more complexicated than I
    described. The "auto" button goes a long way to reducing that
    complexity, but doesn't quite eliminate some of the adjustments.

    Does that help or do you want me to dive deeper into the details?




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    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to fiultra1@yahoo.com on Thu Dec 14 10:57:41 2023
    On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 08:38:59 -0800 (PST), Andre Jute
    <fiultra1@yahoo.com> wrote:

    My Mac has one button that switches it both on and off. -- AJ

    Apple doesn't believe in hardware controls. Instead, they do it in
    software:
    "Customize the calibration using the Pro Display Calibrator" <https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/customize-calibration-pro-display-calibrator-mchlff4659b7/14.0/mac/14.0>

    "Displays settings on Mac" <https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/displays-settings-on-mac-mchlca6faa13/14.0/mac/14.0>

    For my computahs at home I simply say "Alexa. Turn off monitor one".

    Reminder: I'm treading on YOUR thread.

    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 14 10:46:34 2023
    On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 10:28:49 -0800, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
    wrote:

    On 12/13/2023 8:15 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

    <snip>

    Drivel: I thought my eyes were getting tired because all the
    characters on my LCD monitor were becoming fuzzy. Then, I pushed the
    "Auto" button and everything became clear again.

    When was the last time that you degaussed your LCD monitor? >https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00011UYJU

    I tried wearing the degaussing coil on my head, but it didn't fit.
    I'll need a larger diameter coil.

    I'll be going for cataract surgery in about 3 weeks. I'm having
    problems paying attention and remaining focused. I'll ask if they can
    degauss my head at the same time.

    Perhaps you could sell Tom a degaussing coil for his monitor along with
    a set of Imperial Torx bits.

    Tom was looking for Metric Torx bits.

    02/02/2022 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/hE70fWkwt6E/m/LGCH-_r_AAAJ> "...chain skipping on the Campy 10 speeds is a common problem until
    Campy started building special non-stretch cables."

    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to Jeff Liebermann on Thu Dec 14 13:20:03 2023
    On 12/14/2023 12:29 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 10:04:19 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 12/13/2023 10:15 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    Drivel: I thought my eyes were getting tired because all the
    characters on my LCD monitor were becoming fuzzy. Then, I pushed the
    "Auto" button and everything became clear again.

    Sounds great what does 'auto' actually do?
    https://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch001155.htm
    Mine only has inscrutable hieroglyphic buttons, nothing in
    English.

    The short answer:
    "The AUTO adjustment key restores the optimal screen position, phase
    and clock settings at the press of a single button, eliminating the
    need to navigate through OSD (On Screen Display) menus and control
    keys."

    "Auto" doesn't adjust anything set by the hieroglyphic symbology shown
    in the ComputerHope.com link. You can punch any or all of the buttons
    shown and it will not change what "auto" changes.

    First, some basics. The video output from older computers is analog
    and uses a VGA connector (15 pin). The video output for more recent computers are either HDMI or DP (display port), which are digital. My
    HP monitor uses analog and VGA.

    Analog has a tendency to drift. What's drifting in this case is the
    phase relationship between the various dot (pixel) colors on the
    screen. The trick is to make the various colors converge in the same
    place on the screen resulting in a "sharp" character image instead of
    an out of focus blob.

    Part of the analog video system are 3 analog to digital (A/D)
    converters, one each for the 3 color channels (red, green, blue). The
    clock pitch and phase relationship (timing) between the 3 channels is
    what's drifting. All 3 have to work together or you will see a blob
    instead of a dot. When you punch the "auto" button, you might notice
    a 2 to 4 second delay, while the screen goes mostly black, while the
    system re-calibrates itself. There are various schemes for
    calibration (which I won't go into), but the result is that all 3 A/D converters are now working together and producing sharp pixels instead
    of blobs.

    By using digital video as in HDMI and DP, it is no long necessary to
    adjust the phase relationships between the various colors to get a
    decent picture. However, it your monitor has both HDMI/DP and VGA or
    TV inputs, it needs an "auto" button. If your monitor is HDMI or DP
    only, then there is no "auto" button.

    Getting a descent LCD picture is far more complexicated than I
    described. The "auto" button goes a long way to reducing that
    complexity, but doesn't quite eliminate some of the adjustments.

    Does that help or do you want me to dive deeper into the details?




    Thanks. I have never had that feature.

    The oldest monitor here is a mid-90s CRT I got free in 1998
    (customer who works in the Federal courthouse saw a pile of
    them in a contractor's recycle skip and snagged one) and all
    the newer equipment is LCD but sans 'auto' button.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to AMuzi on Thu Dec 14 14:33:32 2023
    On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 13:20:03 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    Thanks. I have never had that feature.

    I don't use the auto button very often. However, when I need to use
    it, such as yesterdays temperature stability experiment, it's handy.

    If you're never seen an "auto" button, there are other ways
    accomplishing the same function. The easiest is to have the monitor
    perform the "auto" function every time you power it on. However,
    that's problematic if users leave the monitor power on 24x7. The
    solution is to have the monitor do the "auto" self-calibration every
    time it wakes up from deep sleep mode. If you're wondering why it
    takes a few extra seconds for the monitor to wake up from sleep mode,
    you can blame the hidden "auto" feature. If my HP w2408 monitor had
    that feature, I would never have noticed yesterday's drift problem.

    The oldest monitor here is a mid-90s CRT I got free in 1998
    (customer who works in the Federal courthouse saw a pile of
    them in a contractor's recycle skip and snagged one) and all
    the newer equipment is LCD but sans 'auto' button.

    If you're monitor is using the VGA (analog) video input, the "auto"
    feature is hiding in there somewhere.

    I forgot to mention that the latest in high fashion monitor packaging
    is to hide the buttons or replace it with a joystick. That's because
    the various advanced LED displays (OLED, Quantum-Dot, Micro-LED, LG
    W-LED, QD-OLED, etc):
    "The billion dollar race for the perfect display" <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyUA1OmXMXA> (18:31)
    The reason is these newer displays have eliminated CCFL and LED
    backlighting which made the LED displays rather fat (thick). With the
    thin panels, there's little room around the edge for all the required
    buttons. My Samsung (something) 34" TV and monitor compromise has a
    joystick on the back of the display, in the lower right corner. If
    you've ever tried using an ordinary box wrench on the back of
    something, you already know how non-intuitive that feels. Why Samsung
    bothered with this, when most of the buttons are already on the remote
    control, is unknown. By most, I mean every button is on the remove
    EXCEPT the "auto" button. Anyway, look around for hidden buttons in
    odd locations.

    Incidentally, the next generation of LCD displays is likely to be
    flexible. No room for a big screen? Just peel the protective backing
    off the flexible LCD panel and glue or Velcro it to the wall, ceiling, furniture, refrigerator, skylight, etc.

    Do not attempt to adjust the picture. There is nothing wrong with
    your monitor. We are totally out of control, but don't let that
    bother you. Just sit back and relax while we take control of you. You
    are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the
    inner mind into your wallet. For us, there are no limits. <https://www.flapperpress.com/post/there-is-nothing-wrong-with-your-television-set-the-story-of-the-outer-limits>

    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to Jeff Liebermann on Thu Dec 14 17:42:36 2023
    On 12/14/2023 4:33 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 13:20:03 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    Thanks. I have never had that feature.

    I don't use the auto button very often. However, when I need to use
    it, such as yesterdays temperature stability experiment, it's handy.

    If you're never seen an "auto" button, there are other ways
    accomplishing the same function. The easiest is to have the monitor
    perform the "auto" function every time you power it on. However,
    that's problematic if users leave the monitor power on 24x7. The
    solution is to have the monitor do the "auto" self-calibration every
    time it wakes up from deep sleep mode. If you're wondering why it
    takes a few extra seconds for the monitor to wake up from sleep mode,
    you can blame the hidden "auto" feature. If my HP w2408 monitor had
    that feature, I would never have noticed yesterday's drift problem.

    The oldest monitor here is a mid-90s CRT I got free in 1998
    (customer who works in the Federal courthouse saw a pile of
    them in a contractor's recycle skip and snagged one) and all
    the newer equipment is LCD but sans 'auto' button.

    If you're monitor is using the VGA (analog) video input, the "auto"
    feature is hiding in there somewhere.

    I forgot to mention that the latest in high fashion monitor packaging
    is to hide the buttons or replace it with a joystick. That's because
    the various advanced LED displays (OLED, Quantum-Dot, Micro-LED, LG
    W-LED, QD-OLED, etc):
    "The billion dollar race for the perfect display" <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyUA1OmXMXA> (18:31)
    The reason is these newer displays have eliminated CCFL and LED
    backlighting which made the LED displays rather fat (thick). With the
    thin panels, there's little room around the edge for all the required buttons. My Samsung (something) 34" TV and monitor compromise has a
    joystick on the back of the display, in the lower right corner. If
    you've ever tried using an ordinary box wrench on the back of
    something, you already know how non-intuitive that feels. Why Samsung bothered with this, when most of the buttons are already on the remote control, is unknown. By most, I mean every button is on the remove
    EXCEPT the "auto" button. Anyway, look around for hidden buttons in
    odd locations.

    Incidentally, the next generation of LCD displays is likely to be
    flexible. No room for a big screen? Just peel the protective backing
    off the flexible LCD panel and glue or Velcro it to the wall, ceiling, furniture, refrigerator, skylight, etc.

    Do not attempt to adjust the picture. There is nothing wrong with
    your monitor. We are totally out of control, but don't let that
    bother you. Just sit back and relax while we take control of you. You
    are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the
    inner mind into your wallet. For us, there are no limits. <https://www.flapperpress.com/post/there-is-nothing-wrong-with-your-television-set-the-story-of-the-outer-limits>



    I very much liked Outer Limits. But I suppose we now have
    CSPAN instead of that and Amazing Stories:

    https://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/5276016.jpg
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to frkrygow@sbcglobal.net on Thu Dec 14 23:09:53 2023
    On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 22:56:03 -0500, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 12/14/2023 12:41 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 10:07:31 -0500, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 12/13/2023 11:15 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

    Drivel: I thought my eyes were getting tired because all the
    characters on my LCD monitor were becoming fuzzy. Then, I pushed the
    "Auto" button and everything became clear again.

    I could use such an "Auto" button for regular daily life, just walking
    around.

    It was really a comment about the quality of the monitor. My LCD
    monitor of the week is an HP w2408. The settings seem to drift with
    temperature. ...

    The settings of my eyes seem to drift as well. Most often, fatigue seems
    to be a factor. Lately I've been doing an unusual amount of night
    driving. I notice "good" nights that distant lights are pinpoints, other >"bad" nights when they are out of focus.

    You might have cataracts. Inability to focus properly is one of the
    common symptoms. I've compared notes with people who have had
    cataracts and the effects vary substantially. I suggest you visit an ophthalmologist and let them make the determination. If you're paying
    out of pocket, an optometrist is cheaper. My ophthalmologist demanded
    a referral from an optometrist. Waste $100, do not pass go, etc. I
    can describe my symptoms if you want, but they are unlikely to be the
    same as yours. <https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cataracts/symptoms-causes/syc-20353790>

    As for the "settings of your eyes" there's very little that you can do
    to adjust your eyes. You can buy adjustable focus eyeglasses: <https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=adjustable+eyeglasses>
    but I don't think they'll do much to eliminate problems because
    they're mostly made for dealing with close-up problems (reading,
    computer, shaving, etc).

    I get my left eye fixed on Jan 3 and the right on Jan 17. I'll let
    you know if it did anything useful. I'm fairly sure it won't do
    anything to prevent my HP LCD monitor from drifting out of focus.



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    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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