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On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:05:15 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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Yes Sir! A badly needed tool!
But on the other hand you've got the axle (or would wouldn't need the
nut) and you've got the nut (or you wouldn't need the tool)...
And you've got fingers (or you wouldn't be doing the work) :-)
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:05:15 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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Is this how cancer works? 1,199 rear derailleur hanger products: <https://soshanger.ca/en/14-rear-derailleur-hangers>
The high mutation rate cancer is upon us.
On 11/20/2023 9:06 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:05:15 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
https://soshanger.ca/en/home/3926-thread-star-rear-12-mmaxle-thread-identifier.html
Is this how cancer works? 1,199 rear derailleur hanger products:
<https://soshanger.ca/en/14-rear-derailleur-hangers>
The high mutation rate cancer is upon us.
There are no senior engineers in management. Every kid with a drawing
program creates a new one just because "We didn't make that one".
Last night I bought a headlight dimmer switch. Fits all GM product
(Corvair, Cadillac, Buick, GM pickups etc) 1962 through 1980. Our
industry could learn something from that, as could the modern auto
business.
On 11/21/2023 8:57 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/20/2023 9:06 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:05:15 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:There are no senior engineers in management. Every kid with a
https://soshanger.ca/en/home/3926-thread-star-rear-12-mmaxle-thread-identifier.html
Is this how cancer works? 1,199 rear derailleur hanger products:
<https://soshanger.ca/en/14-rear-derailleur-hangers>
The high mutation rate cancer is upon us.
drawing program creates a new one just because "We didn't make that
one".
Last night I bought a headlight dimmer switch. Fits all GM product
(Corvair, Cadillac, Buick, GM pickups etc) 1962 through 1980. Our
industry could learn something from that, as could the modern auto
business.
Agreed. But then some here would say "But your headlight dimmer switch
isn't made from carbon fiber! And it doesn't upload data about how
many times you've used your high beams! And it doesn't work with a
phone app!"
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> writes:
On 11/21/2023 8:57 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/20/2023 9:06 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:05:15 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>There are no senior engineers in management. Every kid with a
https://soshanger.ca/en/home/3926-thread-star-rear-12-mmaxle-thread-identifier.html
Is this how cancer works? 1,199 rear derailleur hanger products:
<https://soshanger.ca/en/14-rear-derailleur-hangers>
The high mutation rate cancer is upon us.
drawing program creates a new one just because "We didn't make that
one".
Last night I bought a headlight dimmer switch. Fits all GM product
(Corvair, Cadillac, Buick, GM pickups etc) 1962 through 1980. Our
industry could learn something from that, as could the modern auto
business.
Agreed. But then some here would say "But your headlight dimmer switch
isn't made from carbon fiber! And it doesn't upload data about how
many times you've used your high beams! And it doesn't work with a
phone app!"
In the case of a dimmer switch, it's not integrated into a fragile and complicated stalk on the steering column. I don't understand what was
wrong with the dimmer switch on the floor.
On 11/20/2023 9:06 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:05:15 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
https://soshanger.ca/en/home/3926-thread-star-rear-12-mmaxle-thread-identifier.html
Is this how cancer works? 1,199 rear derailleur hanger products:
<https://soshanger.ca/en/14-rear-derailleur-hangers>
The high mutation rate cancer is upon us.
There are no senior engineers in management. Every kid with
a drawing program creates a new one just because "We didn't
make that one".
Last night I bought a headlight dimmer switch. Fits all GM
product (Corvair, Cadillac, Buick, GM pickups etc) 1962
through 1980. Our industry could learn something from that,
as could the modern auto business.
On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 07:57:19 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 11/20/2023 9:06 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:05:15 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
https://soshanger.ca/en/home/3926-thread-star-rear-12-mmaxle-thread-identifier.html
Is this how cancer works? 1,199 rear derailleur hanger products:
<https://soshanger.ca/en/14-rear-derailleur-hangers>
The high mutation rate cancer is upon us.
There are no senior engineers in management. Every kid with
a drawing program creates a new one just because "We didn't
make that one".
Not a drawing program. More likely a CAD (computah aided design)
program.
Modern technology has greatly improved our ability to make design
changes on the fly. In the not so distant past, making a design
change on a component required a major documentation effort. Today,
all it takes is making a few changes to the computerized drawings.
That not only changes the part but also makes changes to associated documentation for the entire sub-assembly (if all the drawings and documentation were linked). With inventory reduction and "just in
time" manufacturing, there's no incentive to recycle an old component
into the next generation of products. Since design cycles are now
shorter than production cycles, it's possible to have several
generations of product designs in the pipeline at the same time. If something needs "improving" on the current design, just throw it away
and give the customer the latest and greatest when it hits the end of
the production queue.
Incidentally, the latest fad is to eliminate the traditional prototype
stage and simply have the CAD output sent to the CNC (computerized
numerical control) machines and out comes that part or product. First
to market usually wins and "customer tested" products, such as Windows
10 and 11, are becoming the norm. Speed kills but is also profitable.
The problem with derailleur hangers is that they don't cost enough to
justify vanity manufacturing. Someone could easily reverse engineer
all the available hangers. Add a vertical mill and a water jet cutter
and you have any of 1,199 incompatible hangers on demand. The problem
is that it would cost too much. Also, nobody (except Tom) has so many different bicycles that they would need a huge number of replacement
hangers. So, there's no mass market. Nice idea, but it's not the way
to get rich.
Last night I bought a headlight dimmer switch. Fits all GM
product (Corvair, Cadillac, Buick, GM pickups etc) 1962
through 1980. Our industry could learn something from that,
as could the modern auto business.
Nice. Today, you would have to deal with six different variations of
each GM product PER YEAR before you find the correct version of the
dimmer switch. 1962 through 1980 (19 models) times 6 variations per
year and that would be 114 SKU numbers.
On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 07:57:19 -0600, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
There are no senior engineers in management. Every kid withNot a drawing program. More likely a CAD (computah aided design)
a drawing program creates a new one just because "We didn't
make that one".
program.
Modern technology has greatly improved our ability to make design
changes on the fly. In the not so distant past, making a design
change on a component required a major documentation effort. Today,
all it takes is making a few changes to the computerized drawings.
That not only changes the part but also makes changes to associated documentation for the entire sub-assembly (if all the drawings and documentation were linked). With inventory reduction and "just in
time" manufacturing, there's no incentive to recycle an old component
into the next generation of products. Since design cycles are now
shorter than production cycles, it's possible to have several
generations of product designs in the pipeline at the same time. If something needs "improving" on the current design, just throw it away
and give the customer the latest and greatest when it hits the end of
the production queue.
On 11/21/2023 2:18 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 07:57:19 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 11/20/2023 9:06 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:05:15 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>
https://soshanger.ca/en/home/3926-thread-star-rear-12-mmaxle-thread-identifier.html
Is this how cancer works? 1,199 rear derailleur hanger products:
<https://soshanger.ca/en/14-rear-derailleur-hangers>
The high mutation rate cancer is upon us.
There are no senior engineers in management. Every kid with
a drawing program creates a new one just because "We didn't
make that one".
Not a drawing program. More likely a CAD (computah aided design)
program.
Modern technology has greatly improved our ability to make design
changes on the fly. In the not so distant past, making a design
change on a component required a major documentation effort. Today,
all it takes is making a few changes to the computerized drawings.
That not only changes the part but also makes changes to associated
documentation for the entire sub-assembly (if all the drawings and
documentation were linked). With inventory reduction and "just in
time" manufacturing, there's no incentive to recycle an old component
into the next generation of products. Since design cycles are now
shorter than production cycles, it's possible to have several
generations of product designs in the pipeline at the same time. If
something needs "improving" on the current design, just throw it away
and give the customer the latest and greatest when it hits the end of
the production queue.
Incidentally, the latest fad is to eliminate the traditional prototype
stage and simply have the CAD output sent to the CNC (computerized
numerical control) machines and out comes that part or product. First
to market usually wins and "customer tested" products, such as Windows
10 and 11, are becoming the norm. Speed kills but is also profitable.
The problem with derailleur hangers is that they don't cost enough to
justify vanity manufacturing. Someone could easily reverse engineer
all the available hangers. Add a vertical mill and a water jet cutter
and you have any of 1,199 incompatible hangers on demand. The problem
is that it would cost too much. Also, nobody (except Tom) has so many
different bicycles that they would need a huge number of replacement
hangers. So, there's no mass market. Nice idea, but it's not the way
to get rich.
Last night I bought a headlight dimmer switch. Fits all GM
product (Corvair, Cadillac, Buick, GM pickups etc) 1962
through 1980. Our industry could learn something from that,
as could the modern auto business.
Nice. Today, you would have to deal with six different variations of
each GM product PER YEAR before you find the correct version of the
dimmer switch. 1962 through 1980 (19 models) times 6 variations per
year and that would be 114 SKU numbers.
I occasionally work on modern cars. Nothing fits anything
else generally and a surprising proportion involve a couple
hours of removing unrelated parts before starting the actual
job and then of course more time to reinstall them.
On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 07:57:19 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 11/20/2023 9:06 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:05:15 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
https://soshanger.ca/en/home/3926-thread-star-rear-12-mmaxle-thread-identifier.html
Is this how cancer works? 1,199 rear derailleur hanger products:
<https://soshanger.ca/en/14-rear-derailleur-hangers>
The high mutation rate cancer is upon us.
There are no senior engineers in management. Every kid with
a drawing program creates a new one just because "We didn't
make that one".
Not a drawing program. More likely a CAD (computah aided design)
program.
Modern technology has greatly improved our ability to make design
changes on the fly. In the not so distant past, making a design
change on a component required a major documentation effort. Today,
all it takes is making a few changes to the computerized drawings.
That not only changes the part but also makes changes to associated >documentation for the entire sub-assembly (if all the drawings and >documentation were linked). With inventory reduction and "just in
time" manufacturing, there's no incentive to recycle an old component
into the next generation of products. Since design cycles are now
shorter than production cycles, it's possible to have several
generations of product designs in the pipeline at the same time. If >something needs "improving" on the current design, just throw it away
and give the customer the latest and greatest when it hits the end of
the production queue.
Incidentally, the latest fad is to eliminate the traditional prototype
stage and simply have the CAD output sent to the CNC (computerized
numerical control) machines and out comes that part or product. First
to market usually wins and "customer tested" products, such as Windows
10 and 11, are becoming the norm. Speed kills but is also profitable.
The problem with derailleur hangers is that they don't cost enough to
justify vanity manufacturing. Someone could easily reverse engineer
all the available hangers. Add a vertical mill and a water jet cutter
and you have any of 1,199 incompatible hangers on demand. The problem
is that it would cost too much. Also, nobody (except Tom) has so many >different bicycles that they would need a huge number of replacement
hangers. So, there's no mass market. Nice idea, but it's not the way
to get rich.
Last night I bought a headlight dimmer switch. Fits all GM
product (Corvair, Cadillac, Buick, GM pickups etc) 1962
through 1980. Our industry could learn something from that,
as could the modern auto business.
Nice. Today, you would have to deal with six different variations of
each GM product PER YEAR before you find the correct version of the
dimmer switch. 1962 through 1980 (19 models) times 6 variations per
year and that would be 114 SKU numbers.
On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 12:18:05 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 07:57:19 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 11/20/2023 9:06 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:05:15 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>
https://soshanger.ca/en/home/3926-thread-star-rear-12-mmaxle-thread-identifier.html
Is this how cancer works? 1,199 rear derailleur hanger products:
<https://soshanger.ca/en/14-rear-derailleur-hangers>
The high mutation rate cancer is upon us.
There are no senior engineers in management. Every kid with
a drawing program creates a new one just because "We didn't
make that one".
Not a drawing program. More likely a CAD (computah aided design)
program.
Modern technology has greatly improved our ability to make design
changes on the fly. In the not so distant past, making a design
change on a component required a major documentation effort. Today,
all it takes is making a few changes to the computerized drawings.
That not only changes the part but also makes changes to associated >>documentation for the entire sub-assembly (if all the drawings and >>documentation were linked). With inventory reduction and "just in
time" manufacturing, there's no incentive to recycle an old component
into the next generation of products. Since design cycles are now
shorter than production cycles, it's possible to have several
generations of product designs in the pipeline at the same time. If >>something needs "improving" on the current design, just throw it away
and give the customer the latest and greatest when it hits the end of
the production queue.
Incidentally, the latest fad is to eliminate the traditional prototype >>stage and simply have the CAD output sent to the CNC (computerized >>numerical control) machines and out comes that part or product. First
to market usually wins and "customer tested" products, such as Windows
10 and 11, are becoming the norm. Speed kills but is also profitable.
The problem with derailleur hangers is that they don't cost enough to >>justify vanity manufacturing. Someone could easily reverse engineer
all the available hangers. Add a vertical mill and a water jet cutter
and you have any of 1,199 incompatible hangers on demand. The problem
is that it would cost too much. Also, nobody (except Tom) has so many >>different bicycles that they would need a huge number of replacement >>hangers. So, there's no mass market. Nice idea, but it's not the way
to get rich.
Last night I bought a headlight dimmer switch. Fits all GM
product (Corvair, Cadillac, Buick, GM pickups etc) 1962
through 1980. Our industry could learn something from that,
as could the modern auto business.
Nice. Today, you would have to deal with six different variations of
each GM product PER YEAR before you find the correct version of the
dimmer switch. 1962 through 1980 (19 models) times 6 variations per
year and that would be 114 SKU numbers.
Well, back in the old days you just went down to the "car shop" place.
Went into the parts department and told them what you wanted. The
parts guy would scurry around and finally hand you the part and Lo! It fitted.
As for Tommy, I also found that going to the Bike shop and telling
them that I wanted "the thingamajig for a 9 speed Shimano Deore
shifting thing" worked equally well.
John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> writes:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 12:18:05 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 07:57:19 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 11/20/2023 9:06 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:05:15 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>
https://soshanger.ca/en/home/3926-thread-star-rear-12-mmaxle-thread-identifier.html
Is this how cancer works? 1,199 rear derailleur hanger products:
<https://soshanger.ca/en/14-rear-derailleur-hangers>
The high mutation rate cancer is upon us.
There are no senior engineers in management. Every kid with
a drawing program creates a new one just because "We didn't
make that one".
Not a drawing program. More likely a CAD (computah aided design) >>>program.
Modern technology has greatly improved our ability to make design
changes on the fly. In the not so distant past, making a design
change on a component required a major documentation effort. Today,
all it takes is making a few changes to the computerized drawings.
That not only changes the part but also makes changes to associated >>>documentation for the entire sub-assembly (if all the drawings and >>>documentation were linked). With inventory reduction and "just in
time" manufacturing, there's no incentive to recycle an old component >>>into the next generation of products. Since design cycles are now >>>shorter than production cycles, it's possible to have several
generations of product designs in the pipeline at the same time. If >>>something needs "improving" on the current design, just throw it away
and give the customer the latest and greatest when it hits the end of
the production queue.
Incidentally, the latest fad is to eliminate the traditional prototype >>>stage and simply have the CAD output sent to the CNC (computerized >>>numerical control) machines and out comes that part or product. First
to market usually wins and "customer tested" products, such as Windows
10 and 11, are becoming the norm. Speed kills but is also profitable.
The problem with derailleur hangers is that they don't cost enough to >>>justify vanity manufacturing. Someone could easily reverse engineer
all the available hangers. Add a vertical mill and a water jet cutter >>>and you have any of 1,199 incompatible hangers on demand. The problem
is that it would cost too much. Also, nobody (except Tom) has so many >>>different bicycles that they would need a huge number of replacement >>>hangers. So, there's no mass market. Nice idea, but it's not the way
to get rich.
Last night I bought a headlight dimmer switch. Fits all GM
product (Corvair, Cadillac, Buick, GM pickups etc) 1962
through 1980. Our industry could learn something from that,
as could the modern auto business.
Nice. Today, you would have to deal with six different variations of >>>each GM product PER YEAR before you find the correct version of the >>>dimmer switch. 1962 through 1980 (19 models) times 6 variations per
year and that would be 114 SKU numbers.
Well, back in the old days you just went down to the "car shop" place.
Went into the parts department and told them what you wanted. The
parts guy would scurry around and finally hand you the part and Lo! It
fitted.
I suppose when you were a lad they looked it up on paper. What I
remember is microfiche, and microfilm. You can probably still enjoy
both at a local library.
John B. <sloc...@gmail.com> writes:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 12:18:05 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 07:57:19 -0600, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>
On 11/20/2023 9:06 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:05:15 -0600, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
https://soshanger.ca/en/home/3926-thread-star-rear-12-mmaxle-thread-identifier.html
Is this how cancer works? 1,199 rear derailleur hanger products:
<https://soshanger.ca/en/14-rear-derailleur-hangers>
The high mutation rate cancer is upon us.
There are no senior engineers in management. Every kid with
a drawing program creates a new one just because "We didn't
make that one".
Not a drawing program. More likely a CAD (computah aided design) >>program.
Modern technology has greatly improved our ability to make design >>changes on the fly. In the not so distant past, making a design
change on a component required a major documentation effort. Today,
all it takes is making a few changes to the computerized drawings.
That not only changes the part but also makes changes to associated >>documentation for the entire sub-assembly (if all the drawings and >>documentation were linked). With inventory reduction and "just in
time" manufacturing, there's no incentive to recycle an old component >>into the next generation of products. Since design cycles are now >>shorter than production cycles, it's possible to have several >>generations of product designs in the pipeline at the same time. If >>something needs "improving" on the current design, just throw it away >>and give the customer the latest and greatest when it hits the end of >>the production queue.
Incidentally, the latest fad is to eliminate the traditional prototype >>stage and simply have the CAD output sent to the CNC (computerized >>numerical control) machines and out comes that part or product. First
to market usually wins and "customer tested" products, such as Windows >>10 and 11, are becoming the norm. Speed kills but is also profitable.
The problem with derailleur hangers is that they don't cost enough to >>justify vanity manufacturing. Someone could easily reverse engineer
all the available hangers. Add a vertical mill and a water jet cutter >>and you have any of 1,199 incompatible hangers on demand. The problem
is that it would cost too much. Also, nobody (except Tom) has so many >>different bicycles that they would need a huge number of replacement >>hangers. So, there's no mass market. Nice idea, but it's not the way
to get rich.
Last night I bought a headlight dimmer switch. Fits all GM
product (Corvair, Cadillac, Buick, GM pickups etc) 1962
through 1980. Our industry could learn something from that,
as could the modern auto business.
Nice. Today, you would have to deal with six different variations of >>each GM product PER YEAR before you find the correct version of the >>dimmer switch. 1962 through 1980 (19 models) times 6 variations per
year and that would be 114 SKU numbers.
Well, back in the old days you just went down to the "car shop" place. Went into the parts department and told them what you wanted. TheI suppose when you were a lad they looked it up on paper. What I
parts guy would scurry around and finally hand you the part and Lo! It fitted.
remember is microfiche, and microfilm. You can probably still enjoy
both at a local library.
As for Tommy, I also found that going to the Bike shop and telling
them that I wanted "the thingamajig for a 9 speed Shimano Deore
shifting thing" worked equally well.
--
I suppose when you were a lad they looked it up on paper. What I
remember is microfiche, and microfilm. You can probably still enjoy
both at a local library.
I suppose when you were a lad they looked it up on paper. What IThat's when he was in the Air Force. When he was a lad it was charcoal and a shovel
remember is microfiche, and microfilm. You can probably still enjoy
both at a local library.
I suppose when you were a lad they looked it up on paper. What I
remember is microfiche, and microfilm. You can probably still enjoy
both at a local library.
That's when he was in the Air Force. When he was a lad it was
charcoal and a shovel
On 11/20/2023 9:06 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:05:15 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
https://soshanger.ca/en/home/3926-thread-star-rear-12-mmaxle-thread-identifier.html
Is this how cancer works? 1,199 rear derailleur hanger products:
<https://soshanger.ca/en/14-rear-derailleur-hangers>
The high mutation rate cancer is upon us.
There are no senior engineers in management. Every kid with
a drawing program creates a new one just because "We didn't
make that one".
Last night I bought a headlight dimmer switch. Fits all GM
product (Corvair, Cadillac, Buick, GM pickups etc) 1962
through 1980. Our industry could learn something from that,
as could the modern auto business.
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