• Geologic time

    From Doug Landau@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 26 16:19:31 2023
    What is geologic time,
    and,
    Who believes John McPhee?

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  • From Andre Jute@21:1/5 to Doug Landau on Fri Oct 27 16:38:30 2023
    On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 12:19:33 AM UTC+1, Doug Landau wrote:
    What is geologic time,
    and,
    Who believes John McPhee?

    In general, geologic time is the clock in the rock, the various great ages of which our knowledge of them comes by dating layers of rock and finding traces of otherwise long-lost history in them.

    Geologic time isn't only an academic or radiological concept, but it is also an important input into philosophical questions. For instance, the main objections to Darwin's theory of evolution comes from the fossils in the Burgess Shale in Canada. From
    there the theory of an intelligent creator (for want of a better word though I'm personally comfortable with the concept of intelligent direction) gains its idea that there was not nearly enough time for many of the complicated living systems to have
    involved, the eye being a common example. Incidentally, Darwin himself knew that the time factor was an important counter-argument and was intensely uncomfortable with it, to the extent of delaying publication for years until he was forced to publish by
    another fossil hunter coming up independently with his theory of evolution. If you want to know about Darwin, and the atheist British academic community which protected his supposed pre-dominance against all other legitimate claimants, as well as his own
    doubts, you can do worse than to read Paul Johnson's short biography of Darwin -- at the very least it is stylistically witty rather than earnestly dull like others I've thrown against the wall after only a few pages.

    A good read on geologic time and its implications for the Big Questions is "Return of the God Hypothesis" by Stephen C. Meyer, who starts with the Burgess Shale and what we now know of DNA. Meyer titled his earlier book, also very good to read as a
    thoughtful introduction to the same subject, "Darwin's Doubt".

    Andre Jute
    Gird yourself for a sewerage discharge of unsophisticated and misunderstood 30-second hits on Google from the usual RBT chattering monkeys.


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  • From Doug Landau@21:1/5 to Andre Jute on Thu Nov 2 20:54:40 2023
    On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 4:38:33 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
    On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 12:19:33 AM UTC+1, Doug Landau wrote:
    What is geologic time,
    and,
    Who believes John McPhee?

    In general, geologic time is the clock in the rock, the various great ages of which our knowledge of them comes by dating layers of rock and finding traces of otherwise long-lost history in them.

    Geologic time isn't only an academic or radiological concept, but it is also an important input into philosophical questions. For instance, the main objections to Darwin's theory of evolution comes from the fossils in the Burgess Shale in Canada. From
    there the theory of an intelligent creator (for want of a better word though I'm personally comfortable with the concept of intelligent direction) gains its idea that there was not nearly enough time for many of the complicated living systems to have
    involved, the eye being a common example. Incidentally, Darwin himself knew that the time factor was an important counter-argument and was intensely uncomfortable with it, to the extent of delaying publication for years until he was forced to publish by
    another fossil hunter coming up independently with his theory of evolution. If you want to know about Darwin, and the atheist British academic community which protected his supposed pre-dominance against all other legitimate claimants, as well as his own
    doubts, you can do worse than to read Paul Johnson's short biography of Darwin -- at the very least it is stylistically witty rather than earnestly dull like others I've thrown against the wall after only a few pages.

    A good read on geologic time and its implications for the Big Questions is "Return of the God Hypothesis" by Stephen C. Meyer, who starts with the Burgess Shale and what we now know of DNA. Meyer titled his earlier book, also very good to read as a
    thoughtful introduction to the same subject, "Darwin's Doubt".


    Thanks I will

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  • From Tom Kunich@21:1/5 to Doug Landau on Fri Nov 3 08:19:37 2023
    On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 4:19:33 PM UTC-7, Doug Landau wrote:
    What is geologic time,
    and,
    Who believes John McPhee?
    Geologic time is that time before recorded history. While recorded history is quite short, geologic time is very long or not depending on which religious teaching you adhere or not to.

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  • From Andre Jute@21:1/5 to Tom Kunich on Sat Nov 4 01:57:39 2023
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 3:19:40 PM UTC, Tom Kunich wrote:
    On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 4:19:33 PM UTC-7, Doug Landau wrote:
    What is geologic time,
    and,
    Who believes John McPhee?
    Geologic time is that time before recorded history. While recorded history is quite short, geologic time is very long or not depending on which religious teaching you adhere or not to.

    The problem with the well-preserved fossils in the Burgess Shale is that it dates back only about 510m years, to middle Cambrian Period, and thus doesn't offer enough time for the Darwinian evolution of complicated organs like the eye. -- AJ


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  • From Tom Kunich@21:1/5 to Andre Jute on Sat Nov 4 13:21:28 2023
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 1:57:41 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 3:19:40 PM UTC, Tom Kunich wrote:
    On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 4:19:33 PM UTC-7, Doug Landau wrote:
    What is geologic time,
    and,
    Who believes John McPhee?
    Geologic time is that time before recorded history. While recorded history is quite short, geologic time is very long or not depending on which religious teaching you adhere or not to.

    The problem with the well-preserved fossils in the Burgess Shale is that it dates back only about 510m years, to middle Cambrian Period, and thus doesn't offer enough time for the Darwinian evolution of complicated organs like the eye. -- AJ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxIt0_keBF8

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