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    From Ahmed Doudar@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 23 16:51:04 2023
    Hi there,

    I just got a brand-new bike with a 1*9 drivetrain. and a KMC Z9 chain.
    When I reverse the movement of the pedals backwards I hear a high clicking sound coming out of the wide teeth of the chainring when they engage the chain links at the lower part of it . Is that normal? And how to fix it if it is not?!

    Appreciate your advise in advance. and thank you guys!

    Ahmed.

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to Ahmed Doudar on Tue Oct 24 13:26:41 2023
    On 10/23/2023 6:51 PM, Ahmed Doudar wrote:
    Hi there,

    I just got a brand-new bike with a 1*9 drivetrain. and a KMC Z9 chain.
    When I reverse the movement of the pedals backwards I hear a high clicking sound coming out of the wide teeth of the chainring when they engage the chain links at the lower part of it . Is that normal? And how to fix it if it is not?!

    Appreciate your advise in advance. and thank you guys!

    Ahmed.

    All derailleur systems make noise (or worse) when
    backpedaling, some more, some less, some a lot more.

    Unless you have some other symptom or problem just stop
    backpedaling and go ride!
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to Tom Kunich on Tue Oct 24 13:27:10 2023
    On 10/24/2023 12:58 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
    On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 4:51:06 PM UTC-7, Ahmed Doudar wrote:
    Hi there,

    I just got a brand-new bike with a 1*9 drivetrain. and a KMC Z9 chain.
    When I reverse the movement of the pedals backwards I hear a high clicking sound coming out of the wide teeth of the chainring when they engage the chain links at the lower part of it . Is that normal? And how to fix it if it is not?!

    Appreciate your advise in advance. and thank you guys!

    Ahmed.
    In all likelihood this sounds like a slight misalignment of the front derailleur. If this is the case you will find that it disappears in some gears. But 9 seeds is a good group that is fairly easy to align with the downtube adjuster.

    1x9 do not have a front changer.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Tom Kunich@21:1/5 to AMuzi on Tue Oct 24 16:10:02 2023
    On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 11:27:13 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
    On 10/24/2023 12:58 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
    On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 4:51:06 PM UTC-7, Ahmed Doudar wrote:
    Hi there,

    I just got a brand-new bike with a 1*9 drivetrain. and a KMC Z9 chain.
    When I reverse the movement of the pedals backwards I hear a high clicking sound coming out of the wide teeth of the chainring when they engage the chain links at the lower part of it . Is that normal? And how to fix it if it is not?!

    Appreciate your advise in advance. and thank you guys!

    Ahmed.
    In all likelihood this sounds like a slight misalignment of the front derailleur. If this is the case you will find that it disappears in some gears. But 9 seeds is a good group that is fairly easy to align with the downtube adjuster.
    1x9 do not have a front changer.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    a...@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971
    I missed that. How the hell do you ride a 1 x 9 on anything other than perfectly flat ground?

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to Tom Kunich on Tue Oct 24 18:38:54 2023
    On 10/24/2023 6:10 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 11:27:13 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
    On 10/24/2023 12:58 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
    On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 4:51:06 PM UTC-7, Ahmed Doudar wrote:
    Hi there,

    I just got a brand-new bike with a 1*9 drivetrain. and a KMC Z9 chain. >>>> When I reverse the movement of the pedals backwards I hear a high clicking sound coming out of the wide teeth of the chainring when they engage the chain links at the lower part of it . Is that normal? And how to fix it if it is not?!

    Appreciate your advise in advance. and thank you guys!

    Ahmed.
    In all likelihood this sounds like a slight misalignment of the front derailleur. If this is the case you will find that it disappears in some gears. But 9 seeds is a good group that is fairly easy to align with the downtube adjuster.
    1x9 do not have a front changer.

    I missed that. How the hell do you ride a 1 x 9 on anything other than perfectly flat ground?

    With the standard 1x9 cassette- 11 to 50 teeth.
    Example:
    https://bikepacking.com/gear/box-prime-9-review/
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Catrike Rider@21:1/5 to AMuzi on Tue Oct 24 19:46:13 2023
    On Tue, 24 Oct 2023 18:38:54 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 10/24/2023 6:10 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 11:27:13?AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
    On 10/24/2023 12:58 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
    On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 4:51:06?PM UTC-7, Ahmed Doudar wrote:
    Hi there,

    I just got a brand-new bike with a 1*9 drivetrain. and a KMC Z9 chain. >>>>> When I reverse the movement of the pedals backwards I hear a high clicking sound coming out of the wide teeth of the chainring when they engage the chain links at the lower part of it . Is that normal? And how to fix it if it is not?!

    Appreciate your advise in advance. and thank you guys!

    Ahmed.
    In all likelihood this sounds like a slight misalignment of the front derailleur. If this is the case you will find that it disappears in some gears. But 9 seeds is a good group that is fairly easy to align with the downtube adjuster.
    1x9 do not have a front changer.

    I missed that. How the hell do you ride a 1 x 9 on anything other than perfectly flat ground?

    With the standard 1x9 cassette- 11 to 50 teeth.
    Example:
    https://bikepacking.com/gear/box-prime-9-review/


    I assume it's a special Derailleur.

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to Catrike Rider on Tue Oct 24 19:05:31 2023
    On 10/24/2023 6:46 PM, Catrike Rider wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Oct 2023 18:38:54 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 10/24/2023 6:10 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 11:27:13?AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
    On 10/24/2023 12:58 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
    On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 4:51:06?PM UTC-7, Ahmed Doudar wrote: >>>>>> Hi there,

    I just got a brand-new bike with a 1*9 drivetrain. and a KMC Z9 chain. >>>>>> When I reverse the movement of the pedals backwards I hear a high clicking sound coming out of the wide teeth of the chainring when they engage the chain links at the lower part of it . Is that normal? And how to fix it if it is not?!

    Appreciate your advise in advance. and thank you guys!

    Ahmed.
    In all likelihood this sounds like a slight misalignment of the front derailleur. If this is the case you will find that it disappears in some gears. But 9 seeds is a good group that is fairly easy to align with the downtube adjuster.
    1x9 do not have a front changer.

    I missed that. How the hell do you ride a 1 x 9 on anything other than perfectly flat ground?

    With the standard 1x9 cassette- 11 to 50 teeth.
    Example:
    https://bikepacking.com/gear/box-prime-9-review/


    I assume it's a special Derailleur.
    It's 2023; everything's special and nothing works with
    anything else.

    That's a feature.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Catrike Rider@21:1/5 to cyclintom@gmail.com on Tue Oct 24 19:40:57 2023
    On Tue, 24 Oct 2023 16:10:02 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
    <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 11:27:13?AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
    On 10/24/2023 12:58 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
    On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 4:51:06?PM UTC-7, Ahmed Doudar wrote:
    Hi there,

    I just got a brand-new bike with a 1*9 drivetrain. and a KMC Z9 chain.
    When I reverse the movement of the pedals backwards I hear a high clicking sound coming out of the wide teeth of the chainring when they engage the chain links at the lower part of it . Is that normal? And how to fix it if it is not?!

    Appreciate your advise in advance. and thank you guys!

    Ahmed.
    In all likelihood this sounds like a slight misalignment of the front derailleur. If this is the case you will find that it disappears in some gears. But 9 seeds is a good group that is fairly easy to align with the downtube adjuster.
    1x9 do not have a front changer.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    a...@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971
    I missed that. How the hell do you ride a 1 x 9 on anything other than perfectly flat ground?

    I cranked up several 7%+ grades a few days ago on 53/36. I have a 599
    drive wheel and I admit had they been any longer than several hundred
    feet, I'd have stopped and downshifted. Yes, I can do that on the
    Catrike, but it'd have been nasty getting going again. I'd have
    probably gone all the way down to the 30T. There's a long uphill on
    that stretch where there's a couple of 8% segments where I opted for
    the 30T from the start.

    I'm a masher, not a spinner.

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  • From Frank Krygowski@21:1/5 to AMuzi on Tue Oct 24 23:03:37 2023
    On 10/24/2023 8:05 PM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 10/24/2023 6:46 PM, Catrike Rider wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Oct 2023 18:38:54 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 10/24/2023 6:10 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 11:27:13?AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
    On 10/24/2023 12:58 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
    On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 4:51:06?PM UTC-7, Ahmed Doudar wrote: >>>>>>> Hi there,

    I just got a brand-new bike with a 1*9 drivetrain. and a KMC Z9
    chain.
    When I reverse the movement of the pedals backwards I hear a high >>>>>>> clicking sound coming out of the wide teeth of the chainring when >>>>>>> they engage the chain links at the lower part of it . Is that
    normal? And how to fix it if it is not?!

    Appreciate your advise in advance. and thank you guys!

    Ahmed.
    In all likelihood this sounds like a slight misalignment of the
    front derailleur. If this is the case you will find that it
    disappears in some gears. But 9 seeds is a good group that is
    fairly easy to align with the downtube adjuster.
    1x9 do not have a front changer.

    I missed that. How the hell do you ride a 1 x 9 on anything other
    than perfectly flat ground?

    With the standard 1x9 cassette- 11 to 50 teeth.
    Example:
    https://bikepacking.com/gear/box-prime-9-review/


    I assume it's a special Derailleur.
    It's 2023; everything's special and nothing works with anything else.

    That's a feature.

    I wonder what's going to happen to all these "innovative" bikes in, say,
    five or ten years when their "special" bits are worn out.

    --
    - Frank Krygowski

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  • From Tom Kunich@21:1/5 to Ahmed Doudar on Tue Oct 24 10:58:18 2023
    On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 4:51:06 PM UTC-7, Ahmed Doudar wrote:
    Hi there,

    I just got a brand-new bike with a 1*9 drivetrain. and a KMC Z9 chain.
    When I reverse the movement of the pedals backwards I hear a high clicking sound coming out of the wide teeth of the chainring when they engage the chain links at the lower part of it . Is that normal? And how to fix it if it is not?!

    Appreciate your advise in advance. and thank you guys!

    Ahmed.
    In all likelihood this sounds like a slight misalignment of the front derailleur. If this is the case you will find that it disappears in some gears. But 9 seeds is a good group that is fairly easy to align with the downtube adjuster.

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  • From Roger Merriman@21:1/5 to Tom Kunich on Wed Oct 25 10:22:45 2023
    Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 11:27:13 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
    On 10/24/2023 12:58 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
    On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 4:51:06 PM UTC-7, Ahmed Doudar wrote:
    Hi there,

    I just got a brand-new bike with a 1*9 drivetrain. and a KMC Z9 chain. >>>> When I reverse the movement of the pedals backwards I hear a high
    clicking sound coming out of the wide teeth of the chainring when they >>>> engage the chain links at the lower part of it . Is that normal? And
    how to fix it if it is not?!

    Appreciate your advise in advance. and thank you guys!

    Ahmed.
    In all likelihood this sounds like a slight misalignment of the front
    derailleur. If this is the case you will find that it disappears in
    some gears. But 9 seeds is a good group that is fairly easy to align
    with the downtube adjuster.
    1x9 do not have a front changer.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    a...@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971
    I missed that. How the hell do you ride a 1 x 9 on anything other than perfectly flat ground?


    My commute bike is that, it’s a heavily old lump as well, mainly due to the panniers and so on. But it’s perfectly comfortable up to 5% doable even in double digits though gets less comfortable or rather harder work.

    Roger Merriman

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  • From Roger Merriman@21:1/5 to Frank Krygowski on Wed Oct 25 10:37:21 2023
    Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    On 10/24/2023 8:05 PM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 10/24/2023 6:46 PM, Catrike Rider wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Oct 2023 18:38:54 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 10/24/2023 6:10 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 11:27:13?AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
    On 10/24/2023 12:58 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
    On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 4:51:06?PM UTC-7, Ahmed Doudar wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi there,

    I just got a brand-new bike with a 1*9 drivetrain. and a KMC Z9 >>>>>>>> chain.
    When I reverse the movement of the pedals backwards I hear a high >>>>>>>> clicking sound coming out of the wide teeth of the chainring when >>>>>>>> they engage the chain links at the lower part of it . Is that
    normal? And how to fix it if it is not?!

    Appreciate your advise in advance. and thank you guys!

    Ahmed.
    In all likelihood this sounds like a slight misalignment of the
    front derailleur. If this is the case you will find that it
    disappears in some gears. But 9 seeds is a good group that is
    fairly easy to align with the downtube adjuster.
    1x9 do not have a front changer.

    I missed that. How the hell do you ride a 1 x 9 on anything other
    than perfectly flat ground?

    With the standard 1x9 cassette- 11 to 50 teeth.
    Example:
    https://bikepacking.com/gear/box-prime-9-review/


    I assume it's a special Derailleur.
    It's 2023; everything's special and nothing works with anything else.

    That's a feature.

    I wonder what's going to happen to all these "innovative" bikes in, say,
    five or ten years when their "special" bits are worn out.

    It’s parts not bikes, so I guess have to swap to different parts if said company has gone out of business, be more that it (cassette) would be gappy
    and possibly sub par shifting.

    Derailleur do seem to last decades if not indefinitely, unless they take physical damage.

    I do get that your range with 9s isn’t huge hence 1by being more doable
    with 11/12/13s systems be they road or MTB.

    My old MTB with its 11-32 does spin out downhill, and it’s stiff on on some of the steeper ramps if I pass though Richmond Park say. But for such a
    bike it’s fine.

    Roger Merriman

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to Frank Krygowski on Wed Oct 25 08:13:15 2023
    On 10/24/2023 10:03 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 10/24/2023 8:05 PM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 10/24/2023 6:46 PM, Catrike Rider wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Oct 2023 18:38:54 -0500, AMuzi
    <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 10/24/2023 6:10 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 11:27:13?AM UTC-7,
    AMuzi wrote:
    On 10/24/2023 12:58 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
    On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 4:51:06?PM UTC-7,
    Ahmed Doudar wrote:
    Hi there,

    I just got a brand-new bike with a 1*9 drivetrain.
    and a KMC Z9 chain.
    When I reverse the movement of the pedals backwards
    I hear a high clicking sound coming out of the wide
    teeth of the chainring when they engage the chain
    links at the lower part of it . Is that normal? And
    how to fix it if it is not?!

    Appreciate your advise in advance. and thank you guys!

    Ahmed.
    In all likelihood this sounds like a slight
    misalignment of the front derailleur. If this is the
    case you will find that it disappears in some gears.
    But 9 seeds is a good group that is fairly easy to
    align with the downtube adjuster.
    1x9 do not have a front changer.

    I missed that. How the hell do you ride a 1 x 9 on
    anything other than perfectly flat ground?

    With the standard 1x9 cassette- 11 to 50 teeth.
    Example:
    https://bikepacking.com/gear/box-prime-9-review/


    I assume it's a special Derailleur.
    It's 2023; everything's special and nothing works with
    anything else.

    That's a feature.

    I wonder what's going to happen to all these "innovative"
    bikes in, say, five or ten years when their "special" bits
    are worn out.


    Ask an Allenax owner.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Sir Ridesalot@21:1/5 to AMuzi on Wed Oct 25 11:11:50 2023
    On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 8:13:19 a.m. UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
    On 10/24/2023 10:03 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 10/24/2023 8:05 PM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 10/24/2023 6:46 PM, Catrike Rider wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Oct 2023 18:38:54 -0500, AMuzi
    <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 10/24/2023 6:10 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 11:27:13?AM UTC-7,
    AMuzi wrote:
    On 10/24/2023 12:58 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
    On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 4:51:06?PM UTC-7,
    Ahmed Doudar wrote:
    Hi there,

    I just got a brand-new bike with a 1*9 drivetrain.
    and a KMC Z9 chain.
    When I reverse the movement of the pedals backwards
    I hear a high clicking sound coming out of the wide
    teeth of the chainring when they engage the chain
    links at the lower part of it . Is that normal? And
    how to fix it if it is not?!

    Appreciate your advise in advance. and thank you guys!

    Ahmed.
    In all likelihood this sounds like a slight
    misalignment of the front derailleur. If this is the
    case you will find that it disappears in some gears.
    But 9 seeds is a good group that is fairly easy to
    align with the downtube adjuster.
    1x9 do not have a front changer.

    I missed that. How the hell do you ride a 1 x 9 on
    anything other than perfectly flat ground?

    With the standard 1x9 cassette- 11 to 50 teeth.
    Example:
    https://bikepacking.com/gear/box-prime-9-review/


    I assume it's a special Derailleur.
    It's 2023; everything's special and nothing works with
    anything else.

    That's a feature.

    I wonder what's going to happen to all these "innovative"
    bikes in, say, five or ten years when their "special" bits
    are worn out.

    Ask an Allenax owner.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    a...@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

    Or someone with any of the three Shimano AX groupsets.

    Cheers

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