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    From Tom Kunich@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 5 16:46:28 2023
    Judging from the comments from the Stupid 4 I suppose it is safe to see who is buying magic mushrooms and why they would be being advertised on this site so heavily. Flunky is obviously on cloud 9 and hasn't come back to earth since he was employed an an
    "electronics engineer" who claims that electric cars don't burn.

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  • From funkmasterxx@hotmail.com@21:1/5 to Tom Kunich on Thu Oct 5 19:18:06 2023
    On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 7:46:31 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
    Judging from the comments from the Stupid 4 I suppose it is safe to see who is buying magic mushrooms and why they would be being advertised on this site so heavily. Flunky is obviously on cloud 9 and hasn't come back to earth since he was employed an
    an "electronics engineer" who claims that electric cars don't burn.

    The only thing this proves is that I live rent free in tommy's head (and no, I never claimed electric don't burn, you stupid fuck)

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  • From Roger Meriman@21:1/5 to Tom Kunich on Sat Oct 7 09:01:30 2023
    Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
    Judging from the comments from the Stupid 4 I suppose it is safe to see
    who is buying magic mushrooms and why they would be being advertised on
    this site so heavily. Flunky is obviously on cloud 9 and hasn't come back
    to earth since he was employed an an "electronics engineer" who claims
    that electric cars don't burn.


    It’s this time of year get self conscious university students looking for Magic Mushrooms in the Parks at least the old hunting grounds type of
    parks!

    Need a lot of them to have any effect but I guess they will learn! It’s not illegal in uk to pick and consume them (or at least was) but is to
    distribute and dry them at which point they jump in strength and to quite a high illegal category!

    Certainly with the home picked variety the main danger is picking the wrong mushrooms..

    Roger Merriman

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to Roger Meriman on Sat Oct 7 07:44:30 2023
    On 10/7/2023 4:01 AM, Roger Meriman wrote:
    Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
    Judging from the comments from the Stupid 4 I suppose it is safe to see
    who is buying magic mushrooms and why they would be being advertised on
    this site so heavily. Flunky is obviously on cloud 9 and hasn't come back
    to earth since he was employed an an "electronics engineer" who claims
    that electric cars don't burn.


    It’s this time of year get self conscious university students looking for Magic Mushrooms in the Parks at least the old hunting grounds type of
    parks!

    Need a lot of them to have any effect but I guess they will learn! It’s not illegal in uk to pick and consume them (or at least was) but is to
    distribute and dry them at which point they jump in strength and to quite a high illegal category!

    Certainly with the home picked variety the main danger is picking the wrong mushrooms..

    Roger Merriman


    Thanks I did not know that: https://mushies.co.uk/blogs/news/5-types-of-psilocybin-mushrooms-that-grow-wild-in-the-uk
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  • From Tom Kunich@21:1/5 to AMuzi on Sat Oct 7 07:25:29 2023
    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 5:44:35 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
    On 10/7/2023 4:01 AM, Roger Meriman wrote:
    Tom Kunich <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Judging from the comments from the Stupid 4 I suppose it is safe to see >> who is buying magic mushrooms and why they would be being advertised on >> this site so heavily. Flunky is obviously on cloud 9 and hasn't come back >> to earth since he was employed an an "electronics engineer" who claims
    that electric cars don't burn.


    It’s this time of year get self conscious university students looking for
    Magic Mushrooms in the Parks at least the old hunting grounds type of parks!

    Need a lot of them to have any effect but I guess they will learn! It’s not
    illegal in uk to pick and consume them (or at least was) but is to distribute and dry them at which point they jump in strength and to quite a
    high illegal category!

    Certainly with the home picked variety the main danger is picking the wrong
    mushrooms..

    Roger Merriman

    Thanks I did not know that: https://mushies.co.uk/blogs/news/5-types-of-psilocybin-mushrooms-that-grow-wild-in-the-uk
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    a...@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971
    In order to get drug addicts early you have to start them out young to somehow enjoy not seeing the world through unaugment eyes.

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 7 13:59:50 2023
    On Sat, 07 Oct 2023 09:01:30 GMT, Roger Meriman <roger@sarlet.com>
    wrote:

    Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
    Judging from the comments from the Stupid 4 I suppose it is safe to see
    who is buying magic mushrooms and why they would be being advertised on
    this site so heavily. Flunky is obviously on cloud 9 and hasn't come back
    to earth since he was employed an an "electronics engineer" who claims
    that electric cars don't burn.


    It’s this time of year get self conscious university students looking for >Magic Mushrooms in the Parks at least the old hunting grounds type of
    parks!

    Need a lot of them to have any effect but I guess they will learn! It’s not >illegal in uk to pick and consume them (or at least was) but is to
    distribute and dry them at which point they jump in strength and to quite a >high illegal category!

    California is considering making "plant derived" psychedelics legal
    for personal use:
    "California Might Legalize Magic Mushrooms" <https://theintercept.com/2023/09/08/california-psychedelics-bill/>

    Certainly with the home picked variety the main danger is picking the wrong >mushrooms..

    Yes, that's a potential problem, but experience, identification web
    sites, samples, and books on the topic help prevent fatal mistakes.
    Despite that, we usually manage to kill off at least one person every
    hear in the county. I don't recall anyone dying due to misidentifying psilocybe mushrooms.

    Usually, it's where the poisonous and non-poisonous variety look very
    similar.
    <https://www.google.com/search?q=poisonous+mushroom+look-alikes>
    There are some of similar species, but all are non-poisonous. I have
    no idea what the situation is in the UK.

    Locally, psilocybe semilanceata mushrooms grow mostly near horse and
    cow droppings and rotting grass: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybe_semilanceata>
    It's possible to grow them from spores, but not easy because the
    environmental conditions need to be perfect.

    When I owned a rental, one group of students decided to help finance
    the rent by growing psilocybe mushrooms in the garage. They bought
    steel shelves, growing racks, horse manure and spores. When the crop
    arrived, they washed, dried, and ground the mushrooms into a powder
    that looked much like black and white finely ground paper.

    When I discovered what they were doing, I found myself at risk of
    getting arrested as an accessory should they get caught selling the
    stuff. So, I asked them to cease growing or find another rental. They
    then tried to bribe me by giving me some of their dried mushroom crop.
    The instructions were to add "a little" to an omelet. I ate too much.
    The effect was that everything seemed funny to me. I was laughing
    almost continuously for 2 or 3 days. Eventually, I recovered only to
    discover that I had sprained my jaw muscles from laughing so much. I
    couldn't open my mouth. I ate and drank through a straw. Eventually,
    I was advised that gargling with warm salt water would loosen the
    muscles. When the tenants finally found somewhere else to live, they
    left me with a dead car full of broken beer bottles, a garage that
    smelled from decaying mushrooms and considerable damage to the house.
    It took me 3 months to clean up the mess.

    If you read a mushroom identification book, many of the mushrooms are
    listed as "edible". Edible does NOT mean that the mushrooms will
    taste good. It means that the mushroom will not kill you or produce undesirable side effects. I've tried some of the mushrooms listed as
    "edible". They didn't kill me and there were no side effects.
    However, they tasted either awful to boringly bland.


    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From Roger Meriman@21:1/5 to Jeff Liebermann on Sun Oct 8 11:56:24 2023
    Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 07 Oct 2023 09:01:30 GMT, Roger Meriman <roger@sarlet.com>
    wrote:

    Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
    Judging from the comments from the Stupid 4 I suppose it is safe to see
    who is buying magic mushrooms and why they would be being advertised on
    this site so heavily. Flunky is obviously on cloud 9 and hasn't come back >>> to earth since he was employed an an "electronics engineer" who claims
    that electric cars don't burn.


    ItÂ’s this time of year get self conscious university students looking for >> Magic Mushrooms in the Parks at least the old hunting grounds type of
    parks!

    Need a lot of them to have any effect but I guess they will learn! ItÂ’s not >> illegal in uk to pick and consume them (or at least was) but is to
    distribute and dry them at which point they jump in strength and to quite a >> high illegal category!

    California is considering making "plant derived" psychedelics legal
    for personal use:
    "California Might Legalize Magic Mushrooms" <https://theintercept.com/2023/09/08/california-psychedelics-bill/>

    Certainly with the home picked variety the main danger is picking the wrong >> mushrooms..

    Yes, that's a potential problem, but experience, identification web
    sites, samples, and books on the topic help prevent fatal mistakes.
    Despite that, we usually manage to kill off at least one person every
    hear in the county. I don't recall anyone dying due to misidentifying psilocybe mushrooms.

    Usually, it's where the poisonous and non-poisonous variety look very similar.
    <https://www.google.com/search?q=poisonous+mushroom+look-alikes>
    There are some of similar species, but all are non-poisonous. I have
    no idea what the situation is in the UK.

    Locally, psilocybe semilanceata mushrooms grow mostly near horse and
    cow droppings and rotting grass: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybe_semilanceata>
    It's possible to grow them from spores, but not easy because the environmental conditions need to be perfect.

    When I owned a rental, one group of students decided to help finance
    the rent by growing psilocybe mushrooms in the garage. They bought
    steel shelves, growing racks, horse manure and spores. When the crop arrived, they washed, dried, and ground the mushrooms into a powder
    that looked much like black and white finely ground paper.

    When I discovered what they were doing, I found myself at risk of
    getting arrested as an accessory should they get caught selling the
    stuff. So, I asked them to cease growing or find another rental. They
    then tried to bribe me by giving me some of their dried mushroom crop.
    The instructions were to add "a little" to an omelet. I ate too much.
    The effect was that everything seemed funny to me. I was laughing
    almost continuously for 2 or 3 days. Eventually, I recovered only to discover that I had sprained my jaw muscles from laughing so much. I couldn't open my mouth. I ate and drank through a straw. Eventually,
    I was advised that gargling with warm salt water would loosen the
    muscles. When the tenants finally found somewhere else to live, they
    left me with a dead car full of broken beer bottles, a garage that
    smelled from decaying mushrooms and considerable damage to the house.
    It took me 3 months to clean up the mess.

    Yup never tried the dried stuff but advice was it was well powerful stuff unlike the picked stuff. Which broadly like drink ie can get a effect relatively easily but you’d have to work at it to get a large effect and
    will clear by next morning, quite frankly amusing as it is even as country
    teen way too much effort!

    If you read a mushroom identification book, many of the mushrooms are
    listed as "edible". Edible does NOT mean that the mushrooms will
    taste good. It means that the mushroom will not kill you or produce undesirable side effects. I've tried some of the mushrooms listed as "edible". They didn't kill me and there were no side effects.
    However, they tasted either awful to boringly bland.


    Sure but again it’s effort vs benefits and so on.

    Roger Merriman

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 8 10:21:29 2023
    On Sun, 08 Oct 2023 11:56:24 GMT, Roger Meriman <roger@sarlet.com>
    wrote:
    Yup never tried the dried stuff but advice was it was well powerful stuff >unlike the picked stuff. Which broadly like drink ie can get a effect >relatively easily but you’d have to work at it to get a large effect and
    will clear by next morning, quite frankly amusing as it is even as country >teen way too much effort!

    This might be of interest. It's from the UK perspective:
    "Things to know before trying magic mushrooms for the first time" <https://www.alchimiaweb.com/blogen/magic-mushrooms-first-time/>

    Except for the feeling of "well being" after I stopped laughing, I
    don't recall any of the effects mentioned in the article. For me, it
    was a 2 or 3 day carnival ride and circus. No sign of digestive
    distress. I obviously overdosed. According to the above article 1 or
    2 grams is a typical dose: <https://www.alchimiaweb.com/blogen/magic-mushrooms-first-time/#HowmanymagicmushroomsshouldItake>
    My guess(tm) is I ate about 20 grams (or more). Based on personal
    experience, I can testify that this dose was not a good idea.

    If you read a mushroom identification book, many of the mushrooms are
    listed as "edible". Edible does NOT mean that the mushrooms will
    taste good. It means that the mushroom will not kill you or produce
    undesirable side effects. I've tried some of the mushrooms listed as
    "edible". They didn't kill me and there were no side effects.
    However, they tasted either awful to boringly bland.

    Sure but again it’s effort vs benefits and so on.
    Roger Merriman

    In California, mushroom hunting season typically starts with the first
    rains, which is usually in November. With global warming, the season
    moves around. In general, a light rain and warm weather do the trick.
    In the past, I would spend some time hunting for mushrooms in the
    hills near my house. The trick is to get to the mushrooms before the
    banana slugs eat them.
    <https://ffsc.us>
    The popular in person "fungus fair" will again be held via Zoom. Maybe
    next year.

    Some of the locals have tried toxin test kits and reported good
    results:
    <https://amatoxtest.com>
    <https://amatoxtest.com/buy-now-2/> <https://www.kqed.org/science/1957996/new-test-strips-detect-harmful-toxin-in-some-common-california-mushrooms>
    I haven't tried them, mostly because of the high price ($25/test). I
    usually go mushroom hunting in a group, which usually includes a few
    people with plenty of experience. The rule of thumb is to not eat
    anything that cannot be positively identified or which one of the
    experienced hunters considers problematic. Confirming the
    identification is a good idea. I'm still alive, so the group method
    works. Offhand, I suspect most problems come from solo hunters, those
    who rely solely on photos, and 2nd hand sources.

    Nobody died, but this is not a good thing:
    "Wild 'death cap' mushroom seriously sickens 14 in California" <https://medicalxpress.com/news/2017-06-wild-death-cap-mushroom-sickens.html>

    Eating mushrooms of unknown origin can also be a problem. They're
    difficult to identify after they are picked: <https://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-11-calif-deaths-mushrooms.html>

    I use this photo guide for identifying US west coast mushrooms.
    There's probably something similar for your area: <https://www.amazon.com/All-That-Rain-Promises-More/dp/0898153883>




    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From Roger Meriman@21:1/5 to Jeff Liebermann on Sun Oct 8 22:11:57 2023
    Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 08 Oct 2023 11:56:24 GMT, Roger Meriman <roger@sarlet.com>
    wrote:
    Yup never tried the dried stuff but advice was it was well powerful stuff
    unlike the picked stuff. Which broadly like drink ie can get a effect
    relatively easily but youÂ’d have to work at it to get a large effect and
    will clear by next morning, quite frankly amusing as it is even as country >> teen way too much effort!

    This might be of interest. It's from the UK perspective:
    "Things to know before trying magic mushrooms for the first time" <https://www.alchimiaweb.com/blogen/magic-mushrooms-first-time/>

    Except for the feeling of "well being" after I stopped laughing, I
    don't recall any of the effects mentioned in the article. For me, it
    was a 2 or 3 day carnival ride and circus. No sign of digestive
    distress. I obviously overdosed. According to the above article 1 or
    2 grams is a typical dose: <https://www.alchimiaweb.com/blogen/magic-mushrooms-first-time/#HowmanymagicmushroomsshouldItake>
    My guess(tm) is I ate about 20 grams (or more). Based on personal experience, I can testify that this dose was not a good idea.

    broadly similar though picked and eaten fresh is I’m told more dilute and
    so much harder to overdose simply down to the amount of mushrooms to
    collect and eat!

    Hence though they grow readily on the hills and even my school grounds
    while I suspect most teens in the area would know this, the effort vs
    reward.


    If you read a mushroom identification book, many of the mushrooms are
    listed as "edible". Edible does NOT mean that the mushrooms will
    taste good. It means that the mushroom will not kill you or produce
    undesirable side effects. I've tried some of the mushrooms listed as
    "edible". They didn't kill me and there were no side effects.
    However, they tasted either awful to boringly bland.

    Sure but again itÂ’s effort vs benefits and so on.
    Roger Merriman

    In California, mushroom hunting season typically starts with the first
    rains, which is usually in November. With global warming, the season
    moves around. In general, a light rain and warm weather do the trick.
    In the past, I would spend some time hunting for mushrooms in the
    hills near my house. The trick is to get to the mushrooms before the
    banana slugs eat them.
    <https://ffsc.us>
    The popular in person "fungus fair" will again be held via Zoom. Maybe
    next year.

    Some of the locals have tried toxin test kits and reported good
    results:
    <https://amatoxtest.com>
    <https://amatoxtest.com/buy-now-2/> <https://www.kqed.org/science/1957996/new-test-strips-detect-harmful-toxin-in-some-common-california-mushrooms>
    I haven't tried them, mostly because of the high price ($25/test). I
    usually go mushroom hunting in a group, which usually includes a few
    people with plenty of experience. The rule of thumb is to not eat
    anything that cannot be positively identified or which one of the
    experienced hunters considers problematic. Confirming the
    identification is a good idea. I'm still alive, so the group method
    works. Offhand, I suspect most problems come from solo hunters, those
    who rely solely on photos, and 2nd hand sources.

    Nobody died, but this is not a good thing:
    "Wild 'death cap' mushroom seriously sickens 14 in California" <https://medicalxpress.com/news/2017-06-wild-death-cap-mushroom-sickens.html>

    Eating mushrooms of unknown origin can also be a problem. They're
    difficult to identify after they are picked: <https://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-11-calif-deaths-mushrooms.html>

    I use this photo guide for identifying US west coast mushrooms.
    There's probably something similar for your area: <https://www.amazon.com/All-That-Rain-Promises-More/dp/0898153883>




    Lot of areas are keen that folks don’t noting that I live london or edge of it at least so the potential for areas being deprived of the entire lot is there!

    Did see one of the rather pretty red ones few years back which seems to be
    the one garden gnomes are painting sitting on!

    Roger Merriman

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