I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so beats below maximum.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so beats below maximum.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so beats below maximum.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until February next year.
Lou
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so beats below maximum.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until February next year.
Lou
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 8:38:34 AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so beats below maximum.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until February next year.
LouNo need to tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about - leave it in a letter to your heirs. https://www.heart.org/en/healthy-living/fitness/fitness-basics/target-heart-rates
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 8:18:55 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 8:38:34 AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so beats below maximum.
Why do you talk about things you know so little about? If you over-rev your heart you do not make it stronger - you wear it out faster. I would just as soon see you around here for a long time and not laying in a hospital ward. You're a real bike rider.One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until February next year.
Why do you start a subject if you get upset when someone responds?LouNo need to tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about - leave it in a letter to your heirs. https://www.heart.org/en/healthy-living/fitness/fitness-basics/target-heart-rates
Lou
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 8:18:55?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 8:38:34?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:No need to tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about - leave it in a letter to your heirs. https://www.heart.org/en/healthy-living/fitness/fitness-basics/target-heart-rates
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until February next year.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so beats below maximum.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
Lou
Why do you start a subject if you get upset when someone responds?
Lou
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 8:38:34?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until February next year.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so beats below maximum.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
Lou
No need to tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about - leave it in a letter to your heirs. https://www.heart.org/en/healthy-living/fitness/fitness-basics/target-heart-rates
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so beats below maximum.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until February next year.
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so beats below maximum.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until February next year.
Even a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on
a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that
the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort
over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so
that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum
effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of
the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM
is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower
end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low
as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25?AM UTC+2, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:Even a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so beats below maximum.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until February next year.
approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on
a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that
the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort
over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so
that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum
effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of
the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM
is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower
end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a
greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low
as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
Yeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who is riding with a HRM forover 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain intensity.
Lou
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25 AM UTC+2, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so beats below maximum.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until February next year.
Even a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on
a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that
the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort
over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum
effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of
the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM
is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower
end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low
as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain intensity.--
Cheers,
John B.Yeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who is riding with a HRM for
Lou
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19 AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:maximum.
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25 AM UTC+2, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman <lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so beats below
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until February next year.
Even a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on
a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort
over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of
the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM
is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower
end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low
as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
for over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain intensity.--
Cheers,
John B.Yeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who is riding with a HRM
re at early retirement age you probably think that you can ride like you did when you were younger. Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your heart. In the group I used to ride with, they have done exactly that.LouSo you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that doesn't actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart Association? I hate to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't get stronger if you overtax it - it gets weaker. While you'
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19 AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote: >>> On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25 AM UTC+2, John B. wrote:
So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that doesn'tOn Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou HoltmanYeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you point that
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote: >>>>>> I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.Even a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an >>>> approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple >>>>>> of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and >>>>>> if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to
keep my heart rate 5 or so beats below maximum.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly
kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting >>>>>> down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I
didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard >>>>>> but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR >>>>> would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I
easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it
easy from now on until February next year.
a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on. >>>>
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that >>>> the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort
over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so >>>> that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum
effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of
the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM
is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower
end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a >>>> greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low
as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why do you talk about
things you know so little about? '. What a f*cking idioit. One might
think that someone who is riding with a HRM for over 30 years knows
best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain intensity.
Lou
actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart Association? I hate
to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't get stronger if
you overtax it - it gets weaker. While you're at early retirement age
you probably think that you can ride like you did when you were younger.
Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your heart. In the group I
used to ride with, they have done exactly that.
Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that max
heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. I have a high
rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now at my age. I can’t help
it. I can’t climb a 10% climb with a HR of 140 bpm.
Lou
Lou Holtman <lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19 AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote: >>> On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25 AM UTC+2, John B. wrote: >>>> On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that doesn't<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:Yeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you point that
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote: >>>>>> I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.Even a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an >>>> approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on >>>> a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on. >>>>
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple >>>>>> of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and >>>>>> if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to >>>>>> keep my heart rate 5 or so beats below maximum.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly
kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting >>>>>> down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99. >>>>>>
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I >>>>>> didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard >>>>>> but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR >>>>> would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I >>>>> easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it >>>>> easy from now on until February next year.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that >>>> the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort >>>> over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so >>>> that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum
effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of >>>> the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM >>>> is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower >>>> end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a >>>> greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low >>>> as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why do you talk about
things you know so little about? '. What a f*cking idioit. One might
think that someone who is riding with a HRM for over 30 years knows
best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain intensity.
Lou
actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart Association? I hate
to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't get stronger if >> you overtax it - it gets weaker. While you're at early retirement age
you probably think that you can ride like you did when you were younger. >> Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your heart. In the group I
used to ride with, they have done exactly that.
Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that max
heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. I have a high
rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now at my age. I can’t help it. I can’t climb a 10% climb with a HR of 140 bpm.
Lou
Even last century sports science noted that the 220 was a guide and a rough one at that!
Roger Merriman
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:maximum.
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25?AM UTC+2, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so beats below
for over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain intensity.Yeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who is riding with a HRMEven a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an >> > > approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until February next year.
a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on. >> > >
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that >> > > the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort
over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so >> > > that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum
effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of
the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM
is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower
end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a >> > > greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low
as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
re at early retirement age you probably think that you can ride like you did when you were younger. Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your heart. In the group I used to ride with, they have done exactly that.So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that doesn't actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart Association? I hate to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't get stronger if you overtax it - it gets weaker. While you'
Lou
Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that max heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. I have a high rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now at my age. I can’t help it. I can’t climb a 10% climb with a HR of 140bpm.
Lou
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 13:40:16 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtmanmaximum.
<lou.holtman@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25?AM UTC+2, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote: >>> > > >> I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so beats below
for over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain intensity.Yeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who is riding with a HRMEven a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an >>> > > approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on >>> > > a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on. >>> > >
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until February next year.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that >>> > > the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort
over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so >>> > > that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum
effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of >>> > > the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM >>> > > is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower
end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a >>> > > greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low >>> > > as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
re at early retirement age you probably think that you can ride like you did when you were younger. Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your heart. In the group I used to ride with, they have done exactly that.So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that doesn't actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart Association? I hate to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't get stronger if you overtax it - it gets weaker. While you'
Lou
140 bpm.
Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that max heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. I have a high rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now at my age. I can’t help it. I can’t climb a 10% climb with a HR of
Lou
I don't remember ever asking the American Heart Association for health >advice.. or the CDC, or the WHO, or anybody else... other than my
own doctor. He says, "my hard riding is why my heart is in such good
shape."
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 13:40:16 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtmanmaximum.
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25?AM UTC+2, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote: >> > > >> I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so beats below
year.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until February next
for over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain intensity.Yeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who is riding with a HRMEven a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an
approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on >> > > a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that
the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort >> > > over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so
that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum
effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of >> > > the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM >> > > is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower >> > > end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a
greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low >> > > as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
you're at early retirement age you probably think that you can ride like you did when you were younger. Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your heart. In the group I used to ride with, they have done exactly that.So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that doesn't actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart Association? I hate to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't get stronger if you overtax it - it gets weaker. While
Lou
of 140 bpm.Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that max heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. I have a high rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now at my age. I can’t help it. I can’t climb a 10% climb with a HR
LouI don't remember ever asking the American Heart Association for health advice.. or the CDC, or the WHO, or anybody else... other than my
own doctor. He says, "my hard riding is why my heart is in such good
shape."
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 17:28:24 -0400, Catrike Ridermaximum.
<soloman@drafting.not> wrote:
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 13:40:16 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman >><lou.holtman@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote: >>>> > On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25?AM UTC+2, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote: >>>> > > >> I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so beats below
year.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until February next
for over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain intensity.Yeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who is riding with a HRMEven a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an >>>> > > approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on >>>> > > a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on. >>>> > >
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that >>>> > > the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort >>>> > > over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so >>>> > > that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum >>>> > > effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of >>>> > > the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM >>>> > > is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower >>>> > > end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a >>>> > > greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low >>>> > > as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
you're at early retirement age you probably think that you can ride like you did when you were younger. Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your heart. In the group I used to ride with, they have done exactly that.So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that doesn't actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart Association? I hate to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't get stronger if you overtax it - it gets weaker. While
Lou
140 bpm.
Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that max heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. I have a high rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now at my age. I can’t help it. I can’t climb a 10% climb with a HR of
Lou
I don't remember ever asking the American Heart Association for health >>advice.. or the CDC, or the WHO, or anybody else... other than my
own doctor. He says, "my hard riding is why my heart is in such good >>shape."
See there, you don't know nothing! Don't you realize that you must
listed to our resident expert Tommy to learn the facts?
After all Tom is an expert, Can you imagine, he even installed the
seat post in a bicycle frame.... after some problems.
If your rest heart rate is actually 130 as you wrote I would question my doctor very closely. Lou is correct that there are variations but not more than 10%.
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 2:28:29?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:maximum.
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 13:40:16 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote: >> >> > On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25?AM UTC+2, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote: >> >> > > >> I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so beats below
year.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until February next
HRM for over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain intensity.Yeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who is riding with aEven a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an
approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on >> >> > > a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that
the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort >> >> > > over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so
that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum
effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of >> >> > > the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM >> >> > > is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower >> >> > > end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a
greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low >> >> > > as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
you're at early retirement age you probably think that you can ride like you did when you were younger. Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your heart. In the group I used to ride with, they have done exactly that.So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that doesn't actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart Association? I hate to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't get stronger if you overtax it - it gets weaker. While
Lou
140 bpm.
Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that max heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. I have a high rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now at my age. I can’t help it. I can’t climb a 10% climb with a HR of
I don't remember ever asking the American Heart Association for health
Lou
advice.. or the CDC, or the WHO, or anybody else... other than my
own doctor. He says, "my hard riding is why my heart is in such good
shape."
If your rest heart rate is actually 130 as you wrote I would question my doctor very closely.
Lou is correct that there are variations but not more than 10%. Your heart is nothing to play games with. The American Heart Association is NOT a government entity - it is a privately funded organization that initially was almost entirely funded bydoctors. I imagine that by now they were unable to refuse the dollars donated by Uncle Sam but with no strings attached.
Even the WHO lists the top two causes of death related to the heart - Ischemic Heart Disease and Stroke (high blood pressure). In the last 20 years the rates of heart disease has risen 31% This growth has been almost entirely from heart disease
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 16:53:49 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunichmaximum.
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 2:28:29?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 13:40:16 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote: >>> >> > On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25?AM UTC+2, John B. wrote: >>> >> > > On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so beats below
year.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until February next
HRM for over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain intensity.Yeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who is riding with aEven a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an
approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on
a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that
the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort >>> >> > > over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so
that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum >>> >> > > effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of >>> >> > > the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM
is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower >>> >> > > end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a
greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low
as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
you're at early retirement age you probably think that you can ride like you did when you were younger. Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your heart. In the group I used to ride with, they have done exactly that.So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that doesn't actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart Association? I hate to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't get stronger if you overtax it - it gets weaker. While
Lou
140 bpm.
Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that max heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. I have a high rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now at my age. I can’t help it. I can’t climb a 10% climb with a HR of
doctors. I imagine that by now they were unable to refuse the dollars donated by Uncle Sam but with no strings attached.I don't remember ever asking the American Heart Association for health
Lou
advice.. or the CDC, or the WHO, or anybody else... other than my
own doctor. He says, "my hard riding is why my heart is in such good
shape."
If your rest heart rate is actually 130 as you wrote I would question my doctor very closely.
I said my resting heart rate was usually in the mid 40s, but
occasionally showed up, according to Garmin, in the mid to low 30s. My
doctor is not concerned about that.
Lou is correct that there are variations but not more than 10%. Your heart is nothing to play games with. The American Heart Association is NOT a government entity - it is a privately funded organization that initially was almost entirely funded by
I don't give a rats ass who/what/where the American Heart Association
is. I go by what my doctor says.
Even the WHO lists the top two causes of death related to the heart - Ischemic Heart Disease and Stroke (high blood pressure). In the last 20 years the rates of heart disease has risen 31% This growth has been almost entirely from heart disease
The WHO (World Health Organization) can kiss my ass, along with all
the rest of the "United Nation."
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 16:53:49 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunichmaximum.
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 2:28:29?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote: >> On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 13:40:16 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote: >> >> On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25?AM UTC+2, John B. wrote: >> >> > > On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so beats below
year.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until February next
HRM for over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain intensity.Yeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who is riding with aEven a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an
approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on
a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that
the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort
over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so
that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum >> >> > > effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of
the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM
is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower
end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a
greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low
as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
you're at early retirement age you probably think that you can ride like you did when you were younger. Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your heart. In the group I used to ride with, they have done exactly that.So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that doesn't actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart Association? I hate to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't get stronger if you overtax it - it gets weaker. While
Lou
HR of 140 bpm.
Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that max heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. I have a high rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now at my age. I can’t help it. I can’t climb a 10% climb with a
doctors. I imagine that by now they were unable to refuse the dollars donated by Uncle Sam but with no strings attached.I don't remember ever asking the American Heart Association for health
Lou
advice.. or the CDC, or the WHO, or anybody else... other than my
own doctor. He says, "my hard riding is why my heart is in such good
shape."
If your rest heart rate is actually 130 as you wrote I would question my doctor very closely.I said my resting heart rate was usually in the mid 40s, but
occasionally showed up, according to Garmin, in the mid to low 30s. My doctor is not concerned about that.
Lou is correct that there are variations but not more than 10%. Your heart is nothing to play games with. The American Heart Association is NOT a government entity - it is a privately funded organization that initially was almost entirely funded by
I don't give a rats ass who/what/where the American Heart Association
is. I go by what my doctor says.
Even the WHO lists the top two causes of death related to the heart - Ischemic Heart Disease and Stroke (high blood pressure). In the last 20 years the rates of heart disease has risen 31% This growth has been almost entirely from heart diseaseThe WHO (World Health Organization) can kiss my ass, along with all
the rest of the "United Nation."
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 5:03:12?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:maximum.
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 16:53:49 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 2:28:29?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote: >> >> On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 13:40:16 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote: >> >> >> On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25?AM UTC+2, John B. wrote: >> >> >> > > On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so beats below
year.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until February next
HRM for over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain intensity.Yeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who is riding with aEven a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an
approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on
a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that
the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort
over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so
that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum >> >> >> > > effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of
the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM
is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower
end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a
greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low
as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
While you're at early retirement age you probably think that you can ride like you did when you were younger. Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your heart. In the group I used to ride with, they have done exactly that.So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that doesn't actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart Association? I hate to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't get stronger if you overtax it - it gets weaker.
Lou
of 140 bpm.
Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that max heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. I have a high rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now at my age. I can’t help it. I can’t climb a 10% climb with a HR
doctors. I imagine that by now they were unable to refuse the dollars donated by Uncle Sam but with no strings attached.I said my resting heart rate was usually in the mid 40s, butI don't remember ever asking the American Heart Association for health
Lou
advice.. or the CDC, or the WHO, or anybody else... other than my
own doctor. He says, "my hard riding is why my heart is in such good
shape."
If your rest heart rate is actually 130 as you wrote I would question my doctor very closely.
occasionally showed up, according to Garmin, in the mid to low 30s. My
doctor is not concerned about that.
Lou is correct that there are variations but not more than 10%. Your heart is nothing to play games with. The American Heart Association is NOT a government entity - it is a privately funded organization that initially was almost entirely funded by
I don't give a rats ass who/what/where the American Heart Association
is. I go by what my doctor says.
Even the WHO lists the top two causes of death related to the heart - Ischemic Heart Disease and Stroke (high blood pressure). In the last 20 years the rates of heart disease has risen 31% This growth has been almost entirely from heart diseaseThe WHO (World Health Organization) can kiss my ass, along with all
the rest of the "United Nation."
You had a typo then since your posting was "My resting heart rate is usually around 140, but my Garmin watch
occasionally shows it dropping down in the mid to low 130s as I sleep.
Doctor says "no problem."
Last year mine would get as low as 20 but that inconceivable fool Lieberman told us all that that wasn't possible because the last hint he had of any sort of knowledge was when he got employed as an engineer and was fired the next day for his big mouth.But we won't have to worry about him for long. As soon as I advised everyone to not take that covid-19 vaccine he rushed down and got it. Now the micro-particles from the mRNA have been found in every organ in the body and with his health record it won't
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:08:55 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunichbelow maximum.
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 5:03:12?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote: >> On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 16:53:49 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 2:28:29?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 13:40:16 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25?AM UTC+2, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so beats
next year.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until February
a HRM for over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain intensity.Yeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who is riding withEven a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an
approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on
a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that
the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort
over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so
that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum
effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of
the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM
is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower
end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a
greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low
as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
While you're at early retirement age you probably think that you can ride like you did when you were younger. Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your heart. In the group I used to ride with, they have done exactly that.So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that doesn't actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart Association? I hate to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't get stronger if you overtax it - it gets weaker.
Lou
a HR of 140 bpm.
Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that max heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. I have a high rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now at my age. I can’t help it. I can’t climb a 10% climb with
by doctors. I imagine that by now they were unable to refuse the dollars donated by Uncle Sam but with no strings attached.I said my resting heart rate was usually in the mid 40s, butI don't remember ever asking the American Heart Association for health >> >> advice.. or the CDC, or the WHO, or anybody else... other than my
Lou
own doctor. He says, "my hard riding is why my heart is in such good >> >> shape."
If your rest heart rate is actually 130 as you wrote I would question my doctor very closely.
occasionally showed up, according to Garmin, in the mid to low 30s. My
doctor is not concerned about that.
Lou is correct that there are variations but not more than 10%. Your heart is nothing to play games with. The American Heart Association is NOT a government entity - it is a privately funded organization that initially was almost entirely funded
mouth. But we won't have to worry about him for long. As soon as I advised everyone to not take that covid-19 vaccine he rushed down and got it. Now the micro-particles from the mRNA have been found in every organ in the body and with his health recordI don't give a rats ass who/what/where the American Heart Association
is. I go by what my doctor says.
Even the WHO lists the top two causes of death related to the heart - Ischemic Heart Disease and Stroke (high blood pressure). In the last 20 years the rates of heart disease has risen 31% This growth has been almost entirely from heart diseaseThe WHO (World Health Organization) can kiss my ass, along with all
the rest of the "United Nation."
You had a typo then since your posting was "My resting heart rate is usually around 140, but my Garmin watch"mid to low 130s"
occasionally shows it dropping down in the mid to low 130s as I sleep. >Doctor says "no problem."
Last year mine would get as low as 20 but that inconceivable fool Lieberman told us all that that wasn't possible because the last hint he had of any sort of knowledge was when he got employed as an engineer and was fired the next day for his big
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 7:23:13?AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:below maximum.
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:08:55 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 5:03:12?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote: >> >> On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 16:53:49 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 2:28:29?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 13:40:16 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25?AM UTC+2, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so beats
next year.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until February
with a HRM for over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain intensity.Yeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who is ridingEven a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an
approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on
a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that
the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort
over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so
that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum
effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of
the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM
is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower
end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a
greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low
as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
While you're at early retirement age you probably think that you can ride like you did when you were younger. Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your heart. In the group I used to ride with, they have done exactly that.So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that doesn't actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart Association? I hate to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't get stronger if you overtax it - it gets weaker.
Lou
HR of 140 bpm.
Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that max heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. I have a high rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now at my age. I can’t help it. I can’t climb a 10% climb with a
by doctors. I imagine that by now they were unable to refuse the dollars donated by Uncle Sam but with no strings attached.I said my resting heart rate was usually in the mid 40s, butI don't remember ever asking the American Heart Association for health >> >> >> advice.. or the CDC, or the WHO, or anybody else... other than my
Lou
own doctor. He says, "my hard riding is why my heart is in such good >> >> >> shape."
If your rest heart rate is actually 130 as you wrote I would question my doctor very closely.
occasionally showed up, according to Garmin, in the mid to low 30s. My
doctor is not concerned about that.
Lou is correct that there are variations but not more than 10%. Your heart is nothing to play games with. The American Heart Association is NOT a government entity - it is a privately funded organization that initially was almost entirely funded
mouth. But we won't have to worry about him for long. As soon as I advised everyone to not take that covid-19 vaccine he rushed down and got it. Now the micro-particles from the mRNA have been found in every organ in the body and with his health record"mid to low 130s"I don't give a rats ass who/what/where the American Heart Association
is. I go by what my doctor says.
Even the WHO lists the top two causes of death related to the heart - Ischemic Heart Disease and Stroke (high blood pressure). In the last 20 years the rates of heart disease has risen 31% This growth has been almost entirely from heart diseaseThe WHO (World Health Organization) can kiss my ass, along with all
the rest of the "United Nation."
You had a typo then since your posting was "My resting heart rate is usually around 140, but my Garmin watch
occasionally shows it dropping down in the mid to low 130s as I sleep.
Doctor says "no problem."
Last year mine would get as low as 20 but that inconceivable fool Lieberman told us all that that wasn't possible because the last hint he had of any sort of knowledge was when he got employed as an engineer and was fired the next day for his big
Do you understand that that would be your heart racing? 30 to 40 is a normal resting heart rate. Standing and walking about 60 to 80. Max heart rate is 220 minus your age. This may not be precise but it is very close.your age. Most of them have build up in the veins and through a stethoscope he can hear the whooshing. Constant exercise caused the good cholesterol to wash most of the bad out of the main heart arteries and this sound which is in most people is not
The heart is a muscle that does not repair itself well. Damage to it usually leaves permanent injuries. Could I exceed 140? Of course I could but it is smart not to. A doctor saying that you have a good heart means that he is comparing you to someone
Exceeding you maximum recommended heart rate for more than a couple of seconds causes damage to the heart which is also supplied with oxygen by the pumping action. Exceeding your recommended heart rate means that your lungs cannot properly oxygenateyour blood and your entire body becomes starved for O2. This is especially important for the heart.
Remember I had to study this carefully since I designed and programmed the first practical heart/lung machine. (This is where Liebermann tells everyone he could have done it better with vacuum tubes. So why did they hire me and not him? Or that assKrygowski will tell you that going from research and development of one important product to another means that I wasn't important to companies who needed their product of interest. Of course he doesn't even know what R&D is. He was too busy being one
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:51:07 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunichbelow maximum.
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 7:23:13?AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:08:55 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 5:03:12?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 16:53:49 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 2:28:29?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 13:40:16 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25?AM UTC+2, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so beats
next year.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until February
with a HRM for over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain intensity.Yeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who is ridingEven a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an
approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on
a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that
the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort
over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so
that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum
effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of
the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM
is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower
end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a
greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low
as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
While you're at early retirement age you probably think that you can ride like you did when you were younger. Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your heart. In the group I used to ride with, they have done exactly that.So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that doesn't actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart Association? I hate to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't get stronger if you overtax it - it gets weaker.
Lou
with a HR of 140 bpm.
Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that max heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. I have a high rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now at my age. I can’t help it. I can’t climb a 10% climb
funded by doctors. I imagine that by now they were unable to refuse the dollars donated by Uncle Sam but with no strings attached.I said my resting heart rate was usually in the mid 40s, butI don't remember ever asking the American Heart Association for health
Lou
advice.. or the CDC, or the WHO, or anybody else... other than my >> >> >> own doctor. He says, "my hard riding is why my heart is in such good
shape."
If your rest heart rate is actually 130 as you wrote I would question my doctor very closely.
occasionally showed up, according to Garmin, in the mid to low 30s. My >> >> doctor is not concerned about that.
Lou is correct that there are variations but not more than 10%. Your heart is nothing to play games with. The American Heart Association is NOT a government entity - it is a privately funded organization that initially was almost entirely
mouth. But we won't have to worry about him for long. As soon as I advised everyone to not take that covid-19 vaccine he rushed down and got it. Now the micro-particles from the mRNA have been found in every organ in the body and with his health record"mid to low 130s"I don't give a rats ass who/what/where the American Heart Association >> >> is. I go by what my doctor says.
Even the WHO lists the top two causes of death related to the heart - Ischemic Heart Disease and Stroke (high blood pressure). In the last 20 years the rates of heart disease has risen 31% This growth has been almost entirely from heart diseaseThe WHO (World Health Organization) can kiss my ass, along with all
the rest of the "United Nation."
You had a typo then since your posting was "My resting heart rate is usually around 140, but my Garmin watch
occasionally shows it dropping down in the mid to low 130s as I sleep. >> >Doctor says "no problem."
Last year mine would get as low as 20 but that inconceivable fool Lieberman told us all that that wasn't possible because the last hint he had of any sort of knowledge was when he got employed as an engineer and was fired the next day for his big
your age. Most of them have build up in the veins and through a stethoscope he can hear the whooshing. Constant exercise caused the good cholesterol to wash most of the bad out of the main heart arteries and this sound which is in most people is notDo you understand that that would be your heart racing? 30 to 40 is a normal resting heart rate. Standing and walking about 60 to 80. Max heart rate is 220 minus your age. This may not be precise but it is very close.
The heart is a muscle that does not repair itself well. Damage to it usually leaves permanent injuries. Could I exceed 140? Of course I could but it is smart not to. A doctor saying that you have a good heart means that he is comparing you to someone
your blood and your entire body becomes starved for O2. This is especially important for the heart.Exceeding you maximum recommended heart rate for more than a couple of seconds causes damage to the heart which is also supplied with oxygen by the pumping action. Exceeding your recommended heart rate means that your lungs cannot properly oxygenate
Krygowski will tell you that going from research and development of one important product to another means that I wasn't important to companies who needed their product of interest. Of course he doesn't even know what R&D is. He was too busy being one ofRemember I had to study this carefully since I designed and programmed the first practical heart/lung machine. (This is where Liebermann tells everyone he could have done it better with vacuum tubes. So why did they hire me and not him? Or that ass
If I'd wanted your advice, I'd have asked for it... I didn't... My
heart health is really none of your business.
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 5:19:51 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:beats below maximum.
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 8:05:15 AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:51:07 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 7:23:13?AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote: >> On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:08:55 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 5:03:12?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 16:53:49 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 2:28:29?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 13:40:16 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25?AM UTC+2, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so
February next year.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until
riding with a HRM for over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain intensity.Yeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who isEven a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an
approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on
a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that
the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort
over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so
that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum
effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of
the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM
is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower
end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a
greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low
as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
weaker. While you're at early retirement age you probably think that you can ride like you did when you were younger. Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your heart. In the group I used to ride with, they have done exactly that.So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that doesn't actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart Association? I hate to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't get stronger if you overtax it - it gets
Lou
climb with a HR of 140 bpm.
Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that max heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. I have a high rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now at my age. I can’t help it. I can’t climb a 10%
funded by doctors. I imagine that by now they were unable to refuse the dollars donated by Uncle Sam but with no strings attached.I said my resting heart rate was usually in the mid 40s, butI don't remember ever asking the American Heart Association for health
Lou
advice.. or the CDC, or the WHO, or anybody else... other than my
own doctor. He says, "my hard riding is why my heart is in such good
shape."
If your rest heart rate is actually 130 as you wrote I would question my doctor very closely.
occasionally showed up, according to Garmin, in the mid to low 30s. My
doctor is not concerned about that.
Lou is correct that there are variations but not more than 10%. Your heart is nothing to play games with. The American Heart Association is NOT a government entity - it is a privately funded organization that initially was almost entirely
diseaseI don't give a rats ass who/what/where the American Heart Association
is. I go by what my doctor says.
Even the WHO lists the top two causes of death related to the heart - Ischemic Heart Disease and Stroke (high blood pressure). In the last 20 years the rates of heart disease has risen 31% This growth has been almost entirely from heart
big mouth. But we won't have to worry about him for long. As soon as I advised everyone to not take that covid-19 vaccine he rushed down and got it. Now the micro-particles from the mRNA have been found in every organ in the body and with his health"mid to low 130s"The WHO (World Health Organization) can kiss my ass, along with all
the rest of the "United Nation."
You had a typo then since your posting was "My resting heart rate is usually around 140, but my Garmin watch
occasionally shows it dropping down in the mid to low 130s as I sleep.
Doctor says "no problem."
Last year mine would get as low as 20 but that inconceivable fool Lieberman told us all that that wasn't possible because the last hint he had of any sort of knowledge was when he got employed as an engineer and was fired the next day for his
someone your age. Most of them have build up in the veins and through a stethoscope he can hear the whooshing. Constant exercise caused the good cholesterol to wash most of the bad out of the main heart arteries and this sound which is in most people isDo you understand that that would be your heart racing? 30 to 40 is a normal resting heart rate. Standing and walking about 60 to 80. Max heart rate is 220 minus your age. This may not be precise but it is very close.
The heart is a muscle that does not repair itself well. Damage to it usually leaves permanent injuries. Could I exceed 140? Of course I could but it is smart not to. A doctor saying that you have a good heart means that he is comparing you to
oxygenate your blood and your entire body becomes starved for O2. This is especially important for the heart.Exceeding you maximum recommended heart rate for more than a couple of seconds causes damage to the heart which is also supplied with oxygen by the pumping action. Exceeding your recommended heart rate means that your lungs cannot properly
ass Krygowski will tell you that going from research and development of one important product to another means that I wasn't important to companies who needed their product of interest. Of course he doesn't even know what R&D is. He was too busy beingRemember I had to study this carefully since I designed and programmed the first practical heart/lung machine. (This is where Liebermann tells everyone he could have done it better with vacuum tubes. So why did they hire me and not him? Or that
rapidly find a new doctor.If I'd wanted your advice, I'd have asked for it... I didn't... MyI'm not advising you about anything - I'm pointing out that you made a false claim about your resting heart rate twice and a more likely statement between them. No big deal but if your doctor told you that a rest heart rate of 130 was good I would
heart health is really none of your business.
I would consult my or a doctor when my resting HR would be 130 or 20 bpm.
Lou
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 8:05:15 AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:beats below maximum.
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:51:07 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 7:23:13?AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote: >> On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:08:55 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 5:03:12?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 16:53:49 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 2:28:29?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 13:40:16 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25?AM UTC+2, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so
February next year.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until
with a HRM for over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain intensity.Yeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who is ridingEven a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an
approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on
a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that
the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort
over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so
that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum
effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of
the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM
is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower
end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a
greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low
as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
weaker. While you're at early retirement age you probably think that you can ride like you did when you were younger. Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your heart. In the group I used to ride with, they have done exactly that.So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that doesn't actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart Association? I hate to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't get stronger if you overtax it - it gets
Lou
with a HR of 140 bpm.
Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that max heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. I have a high rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now at my age. I can’t help it. I can’t climb a 10% climb
funded by doctors. I imagine that by now they were unable to refuse the dollars donated by Uncle Sam but with no strings attached.I said my resting heart rate was usually in the mid 40s, butI don't remember ever asking the American Heart Association for health
Lou
advice.. or the CDC, or the WHO, or anybody else... other than my >> >> >> own doctor. He says, "my hard riding is why my heart is in such good
shape."
If your rest heart rate is actually 130 as you wrote I would question my doctor very closely.
occasionally showed up, according to Garmin, in the mid to low 30s. My
doctor is not concerned about that.
Lou is correct that there are variations but not more than 10%. Your heart is nothing to play games with. The American Heart Association is NOT a government entity - it is a privately funded organization that initially was almost entirely
diseaseI don't give a rats ass who/what/where the American Heart Association
is. I go by what my doctor says.
Even the WHO lists the top two causes of death related to the heart - Ischemic Heart Disease and Stroke (high blood pressure). In the last 20 years the rates of heart disease has risen 31% This growth has been almost entirely from heart
mouth. But we won't have to worry about him for long. As soon as I advised everyone to not take that covid-19 vaccine he rushed down and got it. Now the micro-particles from the mRNA have been found in every organ in the body and with his health record"mid to low 130s"The WHO (World Health Organization) can kiss my ass, along with all >> >> the rest of the "United Nation."
You had a typo then since your posting was "My resting heart rate is usually around 140, but my Garmin watch
occasionally shows it dropping down in the mid to low 130s as I sleep. >> >Doctor says "no problem."
Last year mine would get as low as 20 but that inconceivable fool Lieberman told us all that that wasn't possible because the last hint he had of any sort of knowledge was when he got employed as an engineer and was fired the next day for his big
someone your age. Most of them have build up in the veins and through a stethoscope he can hear the whooshing. Constant exercise caused the good cholesterol to wash most of the bad out of the main heart arteries and this sound which is in most people isDo you understand that that would be your heart racing? 30 to 40 is a normal resting heart rate. Standing and walking about 60 to 80. Max heart rate is 220 minus your age. This may not be precise but it is very close.
The heart is a muscle that does not repair itself well. Damage to it usually leaves permanent injuries. Could I exceed 140? Of course I could but it is smart not to. A doctor saying that you have a good heart means that he is comparing you to
your blood and your entire body becomes starved for O2. This is especially important for the heart.Exceeding you maximum recommended heart rate for more than a couple of seconds causes damage to the heart which is also supplied with oxygen by the pumping action. Exceeding your recommended heart rate means that your lungs cannot properly oxygenate
Krygowski will tell you that going from research and development of one important product to another means that I wasn't important to companies who needed their product of interest. Of course he doesn't even know what R&D is. He was too busy being one ofRemember I had to study this carefully since I designed and programmed the first practical heart/lung machine. (This is where Liebermann tells everyone he could have done it better with vacuum tubes. So why did they hire me and not him? Or that ass
rapidly find a new doctor.If I'd wanted your advice, I'd have asked for it... I didn't... MyI'm not advising you about anything - I'm pointing out that you made a false claim about your resting heart rate twice and a more likely statement between them. No big deal but if your doctor told you that a rest heart rate of 130 was good I would
heart health is really none of your business.
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 09:05:40 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtmanbeats below maximum.
<lou.holtman@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 5:19:51?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 8:05:15?AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:51:07 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 7:23:13?AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote: >>> > >> On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:08:55 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 5:03:12?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 16:53:49 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 2:28:29?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 13:40:16 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25?AM UTC+2, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so
February next year.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until
riding with a HRM for over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain intensity.Yeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who isEven a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an
approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on
a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that
the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort
over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so
that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum
effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of
the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM
is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower
end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a
greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low
as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
weaker. While you're at early retirement age you probably think that you can ride like you did when you were younger. Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your heart. In the group I used to ride with, they have done exactly that.So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that doesn't actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart Association? I hate to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't get stronger if you overtax it - it gets
Lou
with a HR of 140 bpm.
Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that max heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. I have a high rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now at my age. I can’t help it. I can’t climb a 10% climb
funded by doctors. I imagine that by now they were unable to refuse the dollars donated by Uncle Sam but with no strings attached.I said my resting heart rate was usually in the mid 40s, butI don't remember ever asking the American Heart Association for health
Lou
advice.. or the CDC, or the WHO, or anybody else... other than my
own doctor. He says, "my hard riding is why my heart is in such good
shape."
If your rest heart rate is actually 130 as you wrote I would question my doctor very closely.
occasionally showed up, according to Garmin, in the mid to low 30s. My
doctor is not concerned about that.
Lou is correct that there are variations but not more than 10%. Your heart is nothing to play games with. The American Heart Association is NOT a government entity - it is a privately funded organization that initially was almost entirely
diseaseI don't give a rats ass who/what/where the American Heart Association
is. I go by what my doctor says.
Even the WHO lists the top two causes of death related to the heart - Ischemic Heart Disease and Stroke (high blood pressure). In the last 20 years the rates of heart disease has risen 31% This growth has been almost entirely from heart
big mouth. But we won't have to worry about him for long. As soon as I advised everyone to not take that covid-19 vaccine he rushed down and got it. Now the micro-particles from the mRNA have been found in every organ in the body and with his health"mid to low 130s"The WHO (World Health Organization) can kiss my ass, along with all >>> > >> >> the rest of the "United Nation."
You had a typo then since your posting was "My resting heart rate is usually around 140, but my Garmin watch
occasionally shows it dropping down in the mid to low 130s as I sleep.
Doctor says "no problem."
Last year mine would get as low as 20 but that inconceivable fool Lieberman told us all that that wasn't possible because the last hint he had of any sort of knowledge was when he got employed as an engineer and was fired the next day for his
someone your age. Most of them have build up in the veins and through a stethoscope he can hear the whooshing. Constant exercise caused the good cholesterol to wash most of the bad out of the main heart arteries and this sound which is in most people is
Do you understand that that would be your heart racing? 30 to 40 is a normal resting heart rate. Standing and walking about 60 to 80. Max heart rate is 220 minus your age. This may not be precise but it is very close.
The heart is a muscle that does not repair itself well. Damage to it usually leaves permanent injuries. Could I exceed 140? Of course I could but it is smart not to. A doctor saying that you have a good heart means that he is comparing you to
oxygenate your blood and your entire body becomes starved for O2. This is especially important for the heart.
Exceeding you maximum recommended heart rate for more than a couple of seconds causes damage to the heart which is also supplied with oxygen by the pumping action. Exceeding your recommended heart rate means that your lungs cannot properly
ass Krygowski will tell you that going from research and development of one important product to another means that I wasn't important to companies who needed their product of interest. Of course he doesn't even know what R&D is. He was too busy being
Remember I had to study this carefully since I designed and programmed the first practical heart/lung machine. (This is where Liebermann tells everyone he could have done it better with vacuum tubes. So why did they hire me and not him? Or that
rapidly find a new doctor.If I'd wanted your advice, I'd have asked for it... I didn't... MyI'm not advising you about anything - I'm pointing out that you made a false claim about your resting heart rate twice and a more likely statement between them. No big deal but if your doctor told you that a rest heart rate of 130 was good I would
heart health is really none of your business.
I would consult my or a doctor when my resting HR would be 130 or 20 bpm.
Lou
My usual resting heart as recorded by my Garmin watch runs 140/145.
I've seen it show as low as 132, but the Garmin watch is not the best
at discerning heart rate. More often, while I was being professionally >monitored, (I've been hospitalized a few times.. not for heart
issues) it would drift below 140. I've been asked "is that normal?" I
reply that it is and they say no more about it. My father had a
similar low heart rate and we both registered very low blood pressure.
He lived well into his 90s, as did his father, and my mother. My only
concern about this is that I might live beyond my ability to be self >sufficient or that I will live longer than my wife, who is younger
than me but has health issues.
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 5:19:51?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:beats below maximum.
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 8:05:15?AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:51:07 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 7:23:13?AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote: >> > >> On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:08:55 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 5:03:12?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 16:53:49 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 2:28:29?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 13:40:16 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25?AM UTC+2, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so
February next year.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until
riding with a HRM for over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain intensity.Yeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who isEven a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an
approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on
a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that
the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort
over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so
that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum
effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of
the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM
is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower
end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a
greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low
as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
weaker. While you're at early retirement age you probably think that you can ride like you did when you were younger. Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your heart. In the group I used to ride with, they have done exactly that.So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that doesn't actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart Association? I hate to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't get stronger if you overtax it - it gets
Lou
with a HR of 140 bpm.
Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that max heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. I have a high rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now at my age. I can’t help it. I can’t climb a 10% climb
funded by doctors. I imagine that by now they were unable to refuse the dollars donated by Uncle Sam but with no strings attached.I said my resting heart rate was usually in the mid 40s, butI don't remember ever asking the American Heart Association for health
Lou
advice.. or the CDC, or the WHO, or anybody else... other than my >> > >> >> >> own doctor. He says, "my hard riding is why my heart is in such good
shape."
If your rest heart rate is actually 130 as you wrote I would question my doctor very closely.
occasionally showed up, according to Garmin, in the mid to low 30s. My
doctor is not concerned about that.
Lou is correct that there are variations but not more than 10%. Your heart is nothing to play games with. The American Heart Association is NOT a government entity - it is a privately funded organization that initially was almost entirely
diseaseI don't give a rats ass who/what/where the American Heart Association
is. I go by what my doctor says.
Even the WHO lists the top two causes of death related to the heart - Ischemic Heart Disease and Stroke (high blood pressure). In the last 20 years the rates of heart disease has risen 31% This growth has been almost entirely from heart
big mouth. But we won't have to worry about him for long. As soon as I advised everyone to not take that covid-19 vaccine he rushed down and got it. Now the micro-particles from the mRNA have been found in every organ in the body and with his health"mid to low 130s"The WHO (World Health Organization) can kiss my ass, along with all >> > >> >> the rest of the "United Nation."
You had a typo then since your posting was "My resting heart rate is usually around 140, but my Garmin watch
occasionally shows it dropping down in the mid to low 130s as I sleep. >> > >> >Doctor says "no problem."
Last year mine would get as low as 20 but that inconceivable fool Lieberman told us all that that wasn't possible because the last hint he had of any sort of knowledge was when he got employed as an engineer and was fired the next day for his
someone your age. Most of them have build up in the veins and through a stethoscope he can hear the whooshing. Constant exercise caused the good cholesterol to wash most of the bad out of the main heart arteries and this sound which is in most people is
Do you understand that that would be your heart racing? 30 to 40 is a normal resting heart rate. Standing and walking about 60 to 80. Max heart rate is 220 minus your age. This may not be precise but it is very close.
The heart is a muscle that does not repair itself well. Damage to it usually leaves permanent injuries. Could I exceed 140? Of course I could but it is smart not to. A doctor saying that you have a good heart means that he is comparing you to
oxygenate your blood and your entire body becomes starved for O2. This is especially important for the heart.
Exceeding you maximum recommended heart rate for more than a couple of seconds causes damage to the heart which is also supplied with oxygen by the pumping action. Exceeding your recommended heart rate means that your lungs cannot properly
Krygowski will tell you that going from research and development of one important product to another means that I wasn't important to companies who needed their product of interest. Of course he doesn't even know what R&D is. He was too busy being one of
Remember I had to study this carefully since I designed and programmed the first practical heart/lung machine. (This is where Liebermann tells everyone he could have done it better with vacuum tubes. So why did they hire me and not him? Or that ass
rapidly find a new doctor.If I'd wanted your advice, I'd have asked for it... I didn't... MyI'm not advising you about anything - I'm pointing out that you made a false claim about your resting heart rate twice and a more likely statement between them. No big deal but if your doctor told you that a rest heart rate of 130 was good I would
heart health is really none of your business.
I would consult my or a doctor when my resting HR would be 130 or 20 bpm.
Lou
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 12:25:21 -0400, Catrike Riderbeats below maximum.
<sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 09:05:40 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 5:19:51?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 8:05:15?AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote: >>> > On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:51:07 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 7:23:13?AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:08:55 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 5:03:12?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 16:53:49 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 2:28:29?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 13:40:16 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25?AM UTC+2, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman >>> > >> >> >> >> > > <lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so
February next year.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until
riding with a HRM for over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain intensity.Yeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who isEven a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an
approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on
a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that
the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort
over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so
that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum
effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of
the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM
is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower
end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a
greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low
as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
weaker. While you're at early retirement age you probably think that you can ride like you did when you were younger. Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your heart. In the group I used to ride with, they have done exactly that.So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that doesn't actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart Association? I hate to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't get stronger if you overtax it - it gets
Lou
climb with a HR of 140 bpm.
Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that max heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. I have a high rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now at my age. I can’t help it. I can’t climb a 10%
funded by doctors. I imagine that by now they were unable to refuse the dollars donated by Uncle Sam but with no strings attached.I said my resting heart rate was usually in the mid 40s, butI don't remember ever asking the American Heart Association for health
Lou
advice.. or the CDC, or the WHO, or anybody else... other than my
own doctor. He says, "my hard riding is why my heart is in such good
shape."
If your rest heart rate is actually 130 as you wrote I would question my doctor very closely.
occasionally showed up, according to Garmin, in the mid to low 30s. My
doctor is not concerned about that.
Lou is correct that there are variations but not more than 10%. Your heart is nothing to play games with. The American Heart Association is NOT a government entity - it is a privately funded organization that initially was almost entirely
diseaseI don't give a rats ass who/what/where the American Heart Association
is. I go by what my doctor says.
Even the WHO lists the top two causes of death related to the heart - Ischemic Heart Disease and Stroke (high blood pressure). In the last 20 years the rates of heart disease has risen 31% This growth has been almost entirely from heart
big mouth. But we won't have to worry about him for long. As soon as I advised everyone to not take that covid-19 vaccine he rushed down and got it. Now the micro-particles from the mRNA have been found in every organ in the body and with his health"mid to low 130s"The WHO (World Health Organization) can kiss my ass, along with all
the rest of the "United Nation."
You had a typo then since your posting was "My resting heart rate is usually around 140, but my Garmin watch
occasionally shows it dropping down in the mid to low 130s as I sleep.
Doctor says "no problem."
Last year mine would get as low as 20 but that inconceivable fool Lieberman told us all that that wasn't possible because the last hint he had of any sort of knowledge was when he got employed as an engineer and was fired the next day for his
someone your age. Most of them have build up in the veins and through a stethoscope he can hear the whooshing. Constant exercise caused the good cholesterol to wash most of the bad out of the main heart arteries and this sound which is in most people is
Do you understand that that would be your heart racing? 30 to 40 is a normal resting heart rate. Standing and walking about 60 to 80. Max heart rate is 220 minus your age. This may not be precise but it is very close.
The heart is a muscle that does not repair itself well. Damage to it usually leaves permanent injuries. Could I exceed 140? Of course I could but it is smart not to. A doctor saying that you have a good heart means that he is comparing you to
oxygenate your blood and your entire body becomes starved for O2. This is especially important for the heart.
Exceeding you maximum recommended heart rate for more than a couple of seconds causes damage to the heart which is also supplied with oxygen by the pumping action. Exceeding your recommended heart rate means that your lungs cannot properly
ass Krygowski will tell you that going from research and development of one important product to another means that I wasn't important to companies who needed their product of interest. Of course he doesn't even know what R&D is. He was too busy being
Remember I had to study this carefully since I designed and programmed the first practical heart/lung machine. (This is where Liebermann tells everyone he could have done it better with vacuum tubes. So why did they hire me and not him? Or that
rapidly find a new doctor.If I'd wanted your advice, I'd have asked for it... I didn't... MyI'm not advising you about anything - I'm pointing out that you made a false claim about your resting heart rate twice and a more likely statement between them. No big deal but if your doctor told you that a rest heart rate of 130 was good I would
heart health is really none of your business.
I would consult my or a doctor when my resting HR would be 130 or 20 bpm. >>
Lou
My usual resting heart as recorded by my Garmin watch runs 140/145.Make that 40/45 BPM, 32 BPM... not 140... etc...
I've seen it show as low as 132, but the Garmin watch is not the best
at discerning heart rate. More often, while I was being professionally >monitored, (I've been hospitalized a few times.. not for heart
issues) it would drift below 140. I've been asked "is that normal?" I >reply that it is and they say no more about it. My father had a
similar low heart rate and we both registered very low blood pressure.
He lived well into his 90s, as did his father, and my mother. My only >concern about this is that I might live beyond my ability to be self >sufficient or that I will live longer than my wife, who is younger
than me but has health issues.
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 6:27:51 PM UTC+2, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 12:25:21 -0400, Catrike Rider
<sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 09:05:40 -0700 (PDT), Lou HoltmanMake that 40/45 BPM, 32 BPM... not 140... etc...
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 5:19:51?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 8:05:15?AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote: >>>>>> On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:51:07 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:I'm not advising you about anything - I'm pointing out that you made >>>>> a false claim about your resting heart rate twice and a more likely
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 7:23:13?AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote: >>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:08:55 -0700 (PDT), Tom KunichIf I'd wanted your advice, I'd have asked for it... I didn't... My >>>>>> heart health is really none of your business.
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 5:03:12?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:"mid to low 130s"
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 16:53:49 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 2:28:29?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:I said my resting heart rate was usually in the mid 40s, but >>>>>>>>>> occasionally showed up, according to Garmin, in the mid to low 30s. My
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 13:40:16 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:I don't remember ever asking the American Heart Association for health
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25?AM UTC+2, John B. wrote:So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Association? I hate to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:Yeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who is riding with a HRM for
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:Even a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of
climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of
years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried
to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate
5 or so beats below maximum.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my
heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on
Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't
feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased
up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would
be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit
175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on
until February next year.
approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on
a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that
the runner can sustain for a prolonged period. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort
over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so
that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum
effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of
the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM
is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower
end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a
greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low
as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
--
Cheers,
John B.
over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain
intensity.
Lou
get stronger if you overtax it - it gets weaker. While you're at early
retirement age you probably think that you can ride like you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> did when you were younger. Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your
heart. In the group I used to ride with, they have done exactly that.
Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that >>>>>>>>>>>>> max heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a high rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now >>>>>>>>>>>>> at my age. I can’t help it. I can’t climb a 10% climb with a HR of 140 bpm.
Lou
advice.. or the CDC, or the WHO, or anybody else... other than my >>>>>>>>>>>> own doctor. He says, "my hard riding is why my heart is in such good
shape."
If your rest heart rate is actually 130 as you wrote I would >>>>>>>>>>> question my doctor very closely.
doctor is not concerned about that.
Lou is correct that there are variations but not more than 10%. >>>>>>>>>>> Your heart is nothing to play games with. The American Heart >>>>>>>>>>> Association is NOT a government entity - it is a privately >>>>>>>>>>> funded organization that initially was almost entirely funded by doctors. II don't give a rats ass who/what/where the American Heart Association
imagine that by now they were unable to refuse the dollars >>>>>>>>>>> donated by Uncle Sam but with no strings attached.
is. I go by what my doctor says.
Even the WHO lists the top two causes of death related to the >>>>>>>>>>> heart - Ischemic Heart Disease and Stroke (high blood
pressure). In the last 20 years the rates of heart disease has >>>>>>>>>>> risen 31% This growth has been almost entirely from heart disease >>>>>>>>>> The WHO (World Health Organization) can kiss my ass, along with all >>>>>>>>>> the rest of the "United Nation."
You had a typo then since your posting was "My resting heart rate >>>>>>>>> is usually around 140, but my Garmin watch
occasionally shows it dropping down in the mid to low 130s as I sleep.
Doctor says "no problem."
Last year mine would get as low as 20 but that inconceivable fool >>>>>>>>> Lieberman told us all that that wasn't possible because the last >>>>>>>>> hint he had of any sort of knowledge was when he got employed as >>>>>>>>> an engineer and was fired the next day for his big mouth. But we >>>>>>>>> won't have to worry about him for long. As soon as I advised >>>>>>>>> everyone to not take that covid-19 vaccine he rushed down and got >>>>>>>>> it. Now the micro-particles from the mRNA have been found in >>>>>>>>> every organ in the body and with his health record it won't be >>>>>>>>> too long before this shows up as cancer.
Do you understand that that would be your heart racing? 30 to 40 is >>>>>>> a normal resting heart rate. Standing and walking about 60 to 80. >>>>>>> Max heart rate is 220 minus your age. This may not be precise but it is very close.
The heart is a muscle that does not repair itself well. Damage to >>>>>>> it usually leaves permanent injuries. Could I exceed 140? Of course >>>>>>> I could but it is smart not to. A doctor saying that you have a
good heart means that he is comparing you to someone your age. Most >>>>>>> of them have build up in the veins and through a stethoscope he can >>>>>>> hear the whooshing. Constant exercise caused the good cholesterol >>>>>>> to wash most of the bad out of the main heart arteries and this
sound which is in most people is not present.
Exceeding you maximum recommended heart rate for more than a couple >>>>>>> of seconds causes damage to the heart which is also supplied with >>>>>>> oxygen by the pumping action. Exceeding your recommended heart rate >>>>>>> means that your lungs cannot properly oxygenate your blood and your >>>>>>> entire body becomes starved for O2. This is especially important for the heart.
Remember I had to study this carefully since I designed and
programmed the first practical heart/lung machine. (This is where >>>>>>> Liebermann tells everyone he could have done it better with vacuum >>>>>>> tubes. So why did they hire me and not him? Or that ass Krygowski >>>>>>> will tell you that going from research and development of one
important product to another means that I wasn't important to
companies who needed their product of interest. Of course he
doesn't even know what R&D is. He was too busy being one of those who can't. )
statement between them. No big deal but if your doctor told you that >>>>> a rest heart rate of 130 was good I would rapidly find a new doctor.
I would consult my or a doctor when my resting HR would be 130 or 20 bpm. >>>>
Lou
My usual resting heart as recorded by my Garmin watch runs 140/145.
I've seen it show as low as 132, but the Garmin watch is not the best
at discerning heart rate. More often, while I was being professionally
monitored, (I've been hospitalized a few times.. not for heart
issues) it would drift below 140. I've been asked "is that normal?" I
reply that it is and they say no more about it. My father had a
similar low heart rate and we both registered very low blood pressure.
He lived well into his 90s, as did his father, and my mother. My only
concern about this is that I might live beyond my ability to be self
sufficient or that I will live longer than my wife, who is younger
than me but has health issues.
That makes quite a difference in this discussion.
Lou
Lou Holtman <lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 6:27:51 PM UTC+2, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 12:25:21 -0400, Catrike Rider
<sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 09:05:40 -0700 (PDT), Lou HoltmanMake that 40/45 BPM, 32 BPM... not 140... etc...
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 5:19:51?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote: >>>>> On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 8:05:15?AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
I would consult my or a doctor when my resting HR would be 130 or 20 bpm.On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:51:07 -0700 (PDT), Tom KunichI'm not advising you about anything - I'm pointing out that you made >>>>> a false claim about your resting heart rate twice and a more likely >>>>> statement between them. No big deal but if your doctor told you that >>>>> a rest heart rate of 130 was good I would rapidly find a new doctor. >>>>
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 7:23:13?AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:If I'd wanted your advice, I'd have asked for it... I didn't... My >>>>>> heart health is really none of your business.
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:08:55 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 5:03:12?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:"mid to low 130s"
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 16:53:49 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 2:28:29?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:I said my resting heart rate was usually in the mid 40s, but >>>>>>>>>> occasionally showed up, according to Garmin, in the mid to low 30s. My
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 13:40:16 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman >>>>>>>>>>>> <lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:I don't remember ever asking the American Heart Association for health
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25?AM UTC+2, John B. wrote:So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Association? I hate to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:Yeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who is riding with a HRM for
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:Even a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of
climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of
years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried
to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate
5 or so beats below maximum.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my
heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on
Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't
feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased
up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would
be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit
175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on
until February next year.
approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on
a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that
the runner can sustain for a prolonged period. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort
over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so
that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum
effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of
the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM
is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower
end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a
greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low
as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
--
Cheers,
John B.
over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain
intensity.
Lou
get stronger if you overtax it - it gets weaker. While you're at early
retirement age you probably think that you can ride like you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> did when you were younger. Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your
heart. In the group I used to ride with, they have done exactly that.
Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that >>>>>>>>>>>>> max heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a high rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now >>>>>>>>>>>>> at my age. I can’t help it. I can’t climb a 10% climb with a HR of 140 bpm.
Lou
advice.. or the CDC, or the WHO, or anybody else... other than my
own doctor. He says, "my hard riding is why my heart is in such good
shape."
If your rest heart rate is actually 130 as you wrote I would >>>>>>>>>>> question my doctor very closely.
doctor is not concerned about that.
Lou is correct that there are variations but not more than 10%. >>>>>>>>>>> Your heart is nothing to play games with. The American Heart >>>>>>>>>>> Association is NOT a government entity - it is a privately >>>>>>>>>>> funded organization that initially was almost entirely funded by doctors. II don't give a rats ass who/what/where the American Heart Association
imagine that by now they were unable to refuse the dollars >>>>>>>>>>> donated by Uncle Sam but with no strings attached.
is. I go by what my doctor says.
Even the WHO lists the top two causes of death related to the >>>>>>>>>>> heart - Ischemic Heart Disease and Stroke (high blood >>>>>>>>>>> pressure). In the last 20 years the rates of heart disease has >>>>>>>>>>> risen 31% This growth has been almost entirely from heart diseaseThe WHO (World Health Organization) can kiss my ass, along with all
the rest of the "United Nation."
You had a typo then since your posting was "My resting heart rate >>>>>>>>> is usually around 140, but my Garmin watch
occasionally shows it dropping down in the mid to low 130s as I sleep.
Doctor says "no problem."
Last year mine would get as low as 20 but that inconceivable fool >>>>>>>>> Lieberman told us all that that wasn't possible because the last >>>>>>>>> hint he had of any sort of knowledge was when he got employed as >>>>>>>>> an engineer and was fired the next day for his big mouth. But we >>>>>>>>> won't have to worry about him for long. As soon as I advised >>>>>>>>> everyone to not take that covid-19 vaccine he rushed down and got >>>>>>>>> it. Now the micro-particles from the mRNA have been found in >>>>>>>>> every organ in the body and with his health record it won't be >>>>>>>>> too long before this shows up as cancer.
Do you understand that that would be your heart racing? 30 to 40 is >>>>>>> a normal resting heart rate. Standing and walking about 60 to 80. >>>>>>> Max heart rate is 220 minus your age. This may not be precise but it is very close.
The heart is a muscle that does not repair itself well. Damage to >>>>>>> it usually leaves permanent injuries. Could I exceed 140? Of course >>>>>>> I could but it is smart not to. A doctor saying that you have a >>>>>>> good heart means that he is comparing you to someone your age. Most >>>>>>> of them have build up in the veins and through a stethoscope he can >>>>>>> hear the whooshing. Constant exercise caused the good cholesterol >>>>>>> to wash most of the bad out of the main heart arteries and this >>>>>>> sound which is in most people is not present.
Exceeding you maximum recommended heart rate for more than a couple >>>>>>> of seconds causes damage to the heart which is also supplied with >>>>>>> oxygen by the pumping action. Exceeding your recommended heart rate >>>>>>> means that your lungs cannot properly oxygenate your blood and your >>>>>>> entire body becomes starved for O2. This is especially important for the heart.
Remember I had to study this carefully since I designed and
programmed the first practical heart/lung machine. (This is where >>>>>>> Liebermann tells everyone he could have done it better with vacuum >>>>>>> tubes. So why did they hire me and not him? Or that ass Krygowski >>>>>>> will tell you that going from research and development of one >>>>>>> important product to another means that I wasn't important to >>>>>>> companies who needed their product of interest. Of course he
doesn't even know what R&D is. He was too busy being one of those who can't. )
Lou
My usual resting heart as recorded by my Garmin watch runs 140/145.
I've seen it show as low as 132, but the Garmin watch is not the best >>> at discerning heart rate. More often, while I was being professionally >>> monitored, (I've been hospitalized a few times.. not for heart
issues) it would drift below 140. I've been asked "is that normal?" I >>> reply that it is and they say no more about it. My father had a
similar low heart rate and we both registered very low blood pressure. >>> He lived well into his 90s, as did his father, and my mother. My only >>> concern about this is that I might live beyond my ability to be self
sufficient or that I will live longer than my wife, who is younger
than me but has health issues.
That makes quite a difference in this discussion.
Lou
True but fairly obvious to be fair.
And as ever heart rates do differ, I have no idea what my resting is as I don’t measure it.
Roger Merriman
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 7:40:11?PM UTC+2, Roger Meriman wrote:
Lou Holtman <lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 6:27:51?PM UTC+2, Catrike Rider wrote:True but fairly obvious to be fair.
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 12:25:21 -0400, Catrike Rider
<sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 09:05:40 -0700 (PDT), Lou HoltmanMake that 40/45 BPM, 32 BPM... not 140... etc...
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 5:19:51?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 8:05:15?AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:I would consult my or a doctor when my resting HR would be 130 or 20 bpm.
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:51:07 -0700 (PDT), Tom KunichI'm not advising you about anything - I'm pointing out that you made >> >>>>> a false claim about your resting heart rate twice and a more likely
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 7:23:13?AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:If I'd wanted your advice, I'd have asked for it... I didn't... My
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:08:55 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 5:03:12?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:"mid to low 130s"
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 16:53:49 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 2:28:29?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:I said my resting heart rate was usually in the mid 40s, but
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 13:40:16 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:I don't remember ever asking the American Heart Association for health
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25?AM UTC+2, John B. wrote:So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou HoltmanYeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:Even a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of
climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of
years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried
to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate
5 or so beats below maximum.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my
heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on
Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't
feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased
up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would
be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit
175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on
until February next year.
approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on
a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that
the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort
over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so
that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum
effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of
the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM
is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower
end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a
greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low
as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who is riding with a HRM for
over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain
intensity.
Lou
doesn't actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart
Association? I hate to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't
get stronger if you overtax it - it gets weaker. While you're at early
retirement age you probably think that you can ride like you >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> did when you were younger. Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your
heart. In the group I used to ride with, they have done exactly that.
Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> max heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a high rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at my age. I can’t help it. I can’t climb a 10% climb with a HR of 140 bpm.
Lou
advice.. or the CDC, or the WHO, or anybody else... other than my
own doctor. He says, "my hard riding is why my heart is in such good
shape."
If your rest heart rate is actually 130 as you wrote I would
question my doctor very closely.
occasionally showed up, according to Garmin, in the mid to low 30s. My
doctor is not concerned about that.
Lou is correct that there are variations but not more than 10%. >> >>>>>>>>>>> Your heart is nothing to play games with. The American HeartI don't give a rats ass who/what/where the American Heart Association
Association is NOT a government entity - it is a privately
funded organization that initially was almost entirely funded by doctors. I
imagine that by now they were unable to refuse the dollars
donated by Uncle Sam but with no strings attached.
is. I go by what my doctor says.
Even the WHO lists the top two causes of death related to theThe WHO (World Health Organization) can kiss my ass, along with all
heart - Ischemic Heart Disease and Stroke (high blood
pressure). In the last 20 years the rates of heart disease has >> >>>>>>>>>>> risen 31% This growth has been almost entirely from heart disease
the rest of the "United Nation."
You had a typo then since your posting was "My resting heart rate >> >>>>>>>>> is usually around 140, but my Garmin watch
occasionally shows it dropping down in the mid to low 130s as I sleep.
Doctor says "no problem."
Last year mine would get as low as 20 but that inconceivable fool >> >>>>>>>>> Lieberman told us all that that wasn't possible because the last >> >>>>>>>>> hint he had of any sort of knowledge was when he got employed as >> >>>>>>>>> an engineer and was fired the next day for his big mouth. But we >> >>>>>>>>> won't have to worry about him for long. As soon as I advised
everyone to not take that covid-19 vaccine he rushed down and got >> >>>>>>>>> it. Now the micro-particles from the mRNA have been found in
every organ in the body and with his health record it won't be
too long before this shows up as cancer.
Do you understand that that would be your heart racing? 30 to 40 is >> >>>>>>> a normal resting heart rate. Standing and walking about 60 to 80.
Max heart rate is 220 minus your age. This may not be precise but it is very close.
The heart is a muscle that does not repair itself well. Damage to
it usually leaves permanent injuries. Could I exceed 140? Of course >> >>>>>>> I could but it is smart not to. A doctor saying that you have a
good heart means that he is comparing you to someone your age. Most >> >>>>>>> of them have build up in the veins and through a stethoscope he can >> >>>>>>> hear the whooshing. Constant exercise caused the good cholesterol
to wash most of the bad out of the main heart arteries and this
sound which is in most people is not present.
Exceeding you maximum recommended heart rate for more than a couple >> >>>>>>> of seconds causes damage to the heart which is also supplied with
oxygen by the pumping action. Exceeding your recommended heart rate >> >>>>>>> means that your lungs cannot properly oxygenate your blood and your >> >>>>>>> entire body becomes starved for O2. This is especially important for the heart.
Remember I had to study this carefully since I designed and
programmed the first practical heart/lung machine. (This is where
Liebermann tells everyone he could have done it better with vacuum >> >>>>>>> tubes. So why did they hire me and not him? Or that ass Krygowski
will tell you that going from research and development of one
important product to another means that I wasn't important to
companies who needed their product of interest. Of course he
doesn't even know what R&D is. He was too busy being one of those who can't. )
heart health is really none of your business.
statement between them. No big deal but if your doctor told you that >> >>>>> a rest heart rate of 130 was good I would rapidly find a new doctor. >> >>>>
Lou
My usual resting heart as recorded by my Garmin watch runs 140/145.
I've seen it show as low as 132, but the Garmin watch is not the best
at discerning heart rate. More often, while I was being professionally >> >>> monitored, (I've been hospitalized a few times.. not for heart
issues) it would drift below 140. I've been asked "is that normal?" I
reply that it is and they say no more about it. My father had a
similar low heart rate and we both registered very low blood pressure. >> >>> He lived well into his 90s, as did his father, and my mother. My only
concern about this is that I might live beyond my ability to be self
sufficient or that I will live longer than my wife, who is younger
than me but has health issues.
That makes quite a difference in this discussion.
Lou
And as ever heart rates do differ, I have no idea what my resting is as I
don’t measure it.
Roger Merriman
The real rest HR is during sleep and for a healthy normal person with a good condition lies aroud 45 to 55 bpm. Just sitting on the couch doing nothing around 65 bpm. Walking around 70 to 85 bpm. As already mentioned in can vary.
Lou
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 7:40:11 PM UTC+2, Roger Meriman wrote:
Lou Holtman <lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 6:27:51 PM UTC+2, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 12:25:21 -0400, Catrike Rider
<sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 09:05:40 -0700 (PDT), Lou HoltmanMake that 40/45 BPM, 32 BPM... not 140... etc...
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 5:19:51?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote: >>>>> On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 8:05:15?AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
I would consult my or a doctor when my resting HR would be 130 or 20 bpm.On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:51:07 -0700 (PDT), Tom KunichI'm not advising you about anything - I'm pointing out that you made >>>>> a false claim about your resting heart rate twice and a more likely >>>>> statement between them. No big deal but if your doctor told you that >>>>> a rest heart rate of 130 was good I would rapidly find a new doctor. >>>>
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 7:23:13?AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:If I'd wanted your advice, I'd have asked for it... I didn't... My >>>>>> heart health is really none of your business.
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:08:55 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 5:03:12?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:"mid to low 130s"
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 16:53:49 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 2:28:29?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:I said my resting heart rate was usually in the mid 40s, but >>>>>>>>>> occasionally showed up, according to Garmin, in the mid to low 30s. My
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 13:40:16 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman >>>>>>>>>>>> <lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:I don't remember ever asking the American Heart Association for health
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25?AM UTC+2, John B. wrote:So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Association? I hate to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:Yeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who is riding with a HRM for
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:Even a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of
climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of
years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried
to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate
5 or so beats below maximum.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my
heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on
Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't
feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased
up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would
be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit
175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on
until February next year.
approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on
a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that
the runner can sustain for a prolonged period. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort
over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so
that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum
effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of
the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM
is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower
end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a
greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low
as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
--
Cheers,
John B.
over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain
intensity.
Lou
get stronger if you overtax it - it gets weaker. While you're at early
retirement age you probably think that you can ride like you
did when you were younger. Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your
heart. In the group I used to ride with, they have done exactly that.
Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that >>>>>>>>>>>>> max heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a high rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now >>>>>>>>>>>>> at my age. I can’t help it. I can’t climb a 10% climb with a HR of 140 bpm.
Lou
advice.. or the CDC, or the WHO, or anybody else... other than my
own doctor. He says, "my hard riding is why my heart is in such good
shape."
If your rest heart rate is actually 130 as you wrote I would >>>>>>>>>>> question my doctor very closely.
doctor is not concerned about that.
Lou is correct that there are variations but not more than 10%.I don't give a rats ass who/what/where the American Heart Association
Your heart is nothing to play games with. The American Heart >>>>>>>>>>> Association is NOT a government entity - it is a privately >>>>>>>>>>> funded organization that initially was almost entirely funded by doctors. I
imagine that by now they were unable to refuse the dollars >>>>>>>>>>> donated by Uncle Sam but with no strings attached.
is. I go by what my doctor says.
Even the WHO lists the top two causes of death related to the >>>>>>>>>>> heart - Ischemic Heart Disease and Stroke (high blood >>>>>>>>>>> pressure). In the last 20 years the rates of heart disease has >>>>>>>>>>> risen 31% This growth has been almost entirely from heart diseaseThe WHO (World Health Organization) can kiss my ass, along with all
the rest of the "United Nation."
You had a typo then since your posting was "My resting heart rate
is usually around 140, but my Garmin watch
occasionally shows it dropping down in the mid to low 130s as I sleep.
Doctor says "no problem."
Last year mine would get as low as 20 but that inconceivable fool
Lieberman told us all that that wasn't possible because the last >>>>>>>>> hint he had of any sort of knowledge was when he got employed as >>>>>>>>> an engineer and was fired the next day for his big mouth. But we >>>>>>>>> won't have to worry about him for long. As soon as I advised >>>>>>>>> everyone to not take that covid-19 vaccine he rushed down and got
it. Now the micro-particles from the mRNA have been found in >>>>>>>>> every organ in the body and with his health record it won't be >>>>>>>>> too long before this shows up as cancer.
Do you understand that that would be your heart racing? 30 to 40 is
a normal resting heart rate. Standing and walking about 60 to 80. >>>>>>> Max heart rate is 220 minus your age. This may not be precise but it is very close.
The heart is a muscle that does not repair itself well. Damage to >>>>>>> it usually leaves permanent injuries. Could I exceed 140? Of course
I could but it is smart not to. A doctor saying that you have a >>>>>>> good heart means that he is comparing you to someone your age. Most
of them have build up in the veins and through a stethoscope he can
hear the whooshing. Constant exercise caused the good cholesterol >>>>>>> to wash most of the bad out of the main heart arteries and this >>>>>>> sound which is in most people is not present.
Exceeding you maximum recommended heart rate for more than a couple
of seconds causes damage to the heart which is also supplied with >>>>>>> oxygen by the pumping action. Exceeding your recommended heart rate
means that your lungs cannot properly oxygenate your blood and your
entire body becomes starved for O2. This is especially important for the heart.
Remember I had to study this carefully since I designed and >>>>>>> programmed the first practical heart/lung machine. (This is where >>>>>>> Liebermann tells everyone he could have done it better with vacuum >>>>>>> tubes. So why did they hire me and not him? Or that ass Krygowski >>>>>>> will tell you that going from research and development of one >>>>>>> important product to another means that I wasn't important to >>>>>>> companies who needed their product of interest. Of course he >>>>>>> doesn't even know what R&D is. He was too busy being one of those who can't. )
Lou
My usual resting heart as recorded by my Garmin watch runs 140/145. >>> I've seen it show as low as 132, but the Garmin watch is not the best >>> at discerning heart rate. More often, while I was being professionally >>> monitored, (I've been hospitalized a few times.. not for heart
issues) it would drift below 140. I've been asked "is that normal?" I >>> reply that it is and they say no more about it. My father had a
similar low heart rate and we both registered very low blood pressure. >>> He lived well into his 90s, as did his father, and my mother. My only >>> concern about this is that I might live beyond my ability to be self >>> sufficient or that I will live longer than my wife, who is younger
than me but has health issues.
That makes quite a difference in this discussion.
Lou
True but fairly obvious to be fair.
And as ever heart rates do differ, I have no idea what my resting is as I don’t measure it.
Roger MerrimanThe real rest HR is during sleep and for a healthy normal person with a good condition lies aroud 45 to 55 bpm. Just sitting on the couch doing nothing around 65 bpm. Walking around 70 to 85 bpm. As already mentioned in can vary.
Lou
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 7:23:13 AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:below maximum.
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:08:55 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 5:03:12?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote: >> On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 16:53:49 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 2:28:29?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 13:40:16 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25?AM UTC+2, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so beats
next year.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until February
with a HRM for over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain intensity.Yeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who is ridingEven a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an
approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on
a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that
the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort
over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so
that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum
effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of
the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM
is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower
end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a
greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low
as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
While you're at early retirement age you probably think that you can ride like you did when you were younger. Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your heart. In the group I used to ride with, they have done exactly that.So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that doesn't actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart Association? I hate to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't get stronger if you overtax it - it gets weaker.
Lou
with a HR of 140 bpm.
Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that max heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. I have a high rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now at my age. I can’t help it. I can’t climb a 10% climb
by doctors. I imagine that by now they were unable to refuse the dollars donated by Uncle Sam but with no strings attached.I said my resting heart rate was usually in the mid 40s, butI don't remember ever asking the American Heart Association for health
Lou
advice.. or the CDC, or the WHO, or anybody else... other than my
own doctor. He says, "my hard riding is why my heart is in such good >> >> shape."
If your rest heart rate is actually 130 as you wrote I would question my doctor very closely.
occasionally showed up, according to Garmin, in the mid to low 30s. My >> doctor is not concerned about that.
Lou is correct that there are variations but not more than 10%. Your heart is nothing to play games with. The American Heart Association is NOT a government entity - it is a privately funded organization that initially was almost entirely funded
mouth. But we won't have to worry about him for long. As soon as I advised everyone to not take that covid-19 vaccine he rushed down and got it. Now the micro-particles from the mRNA have been found in every organ in the body and with his health recordI don't give a rats ass who/what/where the American Heart Association >> is. I go by what my doctor says.
Even the WHO lists the top two causes of death related to the heart - Ischemic Heart Disease and Stroke (high blood pressure). In the last 20 years the rates of heart disease has risen 31% This growth has been almost entirely from heart diseaseThe WHO (World Health Organization) can kiss my ass, along with all
the rest of the "United Nation."
You had a typo then since your posting was "My resting heart rate is usually around 140, but my Garmin watch"mid to low 130s"
occasionally shows it dropping down in the mid to low 130s as I sleep. >Doctor says "no problem."
Last year mine would get as low as 20 but that inconceivable fool Lieberman told us all that that wasn't possible because the last hint he had of any sort of knowledge was when he got employed as an engineer and was fired the next day for his big
Do you understand that that would be your heart racing? 30 to 40 is a normal resting heart rate. Standing and walking about 60 to 80. Max heart rate is 220 minus your age. This may not be precise but it is very close.
The heart is a muscle that does not repair itself well. Damage to it usually leaves permanent injuries. Could I exceed 140? Of course I could but it is smart not to. A doctor saying that you have a good heart means that he is comparing you to someoneyour age. Most of them have build up in the veins and through a stethoscope he can hear the whooshing. Constant exercise caused the good cholesterol to wash most of the bad out of the main heart arteries and this sound which is in most people is not
Exceeding you maximum recommended heart rate for more than a couple of seconds causes damage to the heart which is also supplied with oxygen by the pumping action. Exceeding your recommended heart rate means that your lungs cannot properly oxygenateyour blood and your entire body becomes starved for O2. This is especially important for the heart.
Remember I had to study this carefully since I designed and programmed the first practical heart/lung machine.
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 11:11:01 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.holtman@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 7:40:11?PM UTC+2, Roger Meriman wrote:
Lou Holtman <lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 6:27:51?PM UTC+2, Catrike Rider wrote: >>> >> On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 12:25:21 -0400, Catrike RiderTrue but fairly obvious to be fair.
<sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 09:05:40 -0700 (PDT), Lou HoltmanMake that 40/45 BPM, 32 BPM... not 140... etc...
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 5:19:51?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote: >>> >>>>> On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 8:05:15?AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
I would consult my or a doctor when my resting HR would be 130 or 20 bpm.On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:51:07 -0700 (PDT), Tom KunichI'm not advising you about anything - I'm pointing out that you made >>> >>>>> a false claim about your resting heart rate twice and a more likely >>> >>>>> statement between them. No big deal but if your doctor told you that >>> >>>>> a rest heart rate of 130 was good I would rapidly find a new doctor. >>> >>>>
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 7:23:13?AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:If I'd wanted your advice, I'd have asked for it... I didn't... My >>> >>>>>> heart health is really none of your business.
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:08:55 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 5:03:12?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:"mid to low 130s"
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 16:53:49 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 2:28:29?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:I said my resting heart rate was usually in the mid 40s, but
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 13:40:16 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:I don't remember ever asking the American Heart Association for health
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25?AM UTC+2, John B. wrote:So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou HoltmanYeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who is riding with a HRM for
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:Even a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of
climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of
years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried
to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate
5 or so beats below maximum.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my
heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on
Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't
feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased
up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would
be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit
175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on
until February next year.
approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on
a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that
the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort
over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so
that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum
effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of
the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM
is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower
end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a
greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low
as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain
intensity.
Lou
doesn't actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Association? I hate to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't
get stronger if you overtax it - it gets weaker. While you're at early
retirement age you probably think that you can ride like you >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> did when you were younger. Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your
heart. In the group I used to ride with, they have done exactly that.
Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> max heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a high rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at my age. I can’t help it. I can’t climb a 10% climb with a HR of 140 bpm.
Lou
advice.. or the CDC, or the WHO, or anybody else... other than my
own doctor. He says, "my hard riding is why my heart is in such good
shape."
If your rest heart rate is actually 130 as you wrote I would >>> >>>>>>>>>>> question my doctor very closely.
occasionally showed up, according to Garmin, in the mid to low 30s. My
doctor is not concerned about that.
Lou is correct that there are variations but not more than 10%. >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Your heart is nothing to play games with. The American Heart >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Association is NOT a government entity - it is a privatelyI don't give a rats ass who/what/where the American Heart Association
funded organization that initially was almost entirely funded by doctors. I
imagine that by now they were unable to refuse the dollars
donated by Uncle Sam but with no strings attached.
is. I go by what my doctor says.
Even the WHO lists the top two causes of death related to the >>> >>>>>>>>>>> heart - Ischemic Heart Disease and Stroke (high bloodThe WHO (World Health Organization) can kiss my ass, along with all
pressure). In the last 20 years the rates of heart disease has >>> >>>>>>>>>>> risen 31% This growth has been almost entirely from heart disease
the rest of the "United Nation."
You had a typo then since your posting was "My resting heart rate >>> >>>>>>>>> is usually around 140, but my Garmin watch
occasionally shows it dropping down in the mid to low 130s as I sleep.
Doctor says "no problem."
Last year mine would get as low as 20 but that inconceivable fool >>> >>>>>>>>> Lieberman told us all that that wasn't possible because the last >>> >>>>>>>>> hint he had of any sort of knowledge was when he got employed as >>> >>>>>>>>> an engineer and was fired the next day for his big mouth. But we >>> >>>>>>>>> won't have to worry about him for long. As soon as I advised
everyone to not take that covid-19 vaccine he rushed down and got >>> >>>>>>>>> it. Now the micro-particles from the mRNA have been found in
every organ in the body and with his health record it won't be >>> >>>>>>>>> too long before this shows up as cancer.
Do you understand that that would be your heart racing? 30 to 40 is >>> >>>>>>> a normal resting heart rate. Standing and walking about 60 to 80. >>> >>>>>>> Max heart rate is 220 minus your age. This may not be precise but it is very close.
The heart is a muscle that does not repair itself well. Damage to >>> >>>>>>> it usually leaves permanent injuries. Could I exceed 140? Of course >>> >>>>>>> I could but it is smart not to. A doctor saying that you have a
good heart means that he is comparing you to someone your age. Most >>> >>>>>>> of them have build up in the veins and through a stethoscope he can >>> >>>>>>> hear the whooshing. Constant exercise caused the good cholesterol >>> >>>>>>> to wash most of the bad out of the main heart arteries and this
sound which is in most people is not present.
Exceeding you maximum recommended heart rate for more than a couple >>> >>>>>>> of seconds causes damage to the heart which is also supplied with >>> >>>>>>> oxygen by the pumping action. Exceeding your recommended heart rate >>> >>>>>>> means that your lungs cannot properly oxygenate your blood and your >>> >>>>>>> entire body becomes starved for O2. This is especially important for the heart.
Remember I had to study this carefully since I designed and
programmed the first practical heart/lung machine. (This is where >>> >>>>>>> Liebermann tells everyone he could have done it better with vacuum >>> >>>>>>> tubes. So why did they hire me and not him? Or that ass Krygowski >>> >>>>>>> will tell you that going from research and development of one
important product to another means that I wasn't important to
companies who needed their product of interest. Of course he
doesn't even know what R&D is. He was too busy being one of those who can't. )
Lou
My usual resting heart as recorded by my Garmin watch runs 140/145.
I've seen it show as low as 132, but the Garmin watch is not the best >>> >>> at discerning heart rate. More often, while I was being professionally >>> >>> monitored, (I've been hospitalized a few times.. not for heart
issues) it would drift below 140. I've been asked "is that normal?" I >>> >>> reply that it is and they say no more about it. My father had a
similar low heart rate and we both registered very low blood pressure. >>> >>> He lived well into his 90s, as did his father, and my mother. My only >>> >>> concern about this is that I might live beyond my ability to be self >>> >>> sufficient or that I will live longer than my wife, who is younger
than me but has health issues.
That makes quite a difference in this discussion.
Lou
And as ever heart rates do differ, I have no idea what my resting is as I >>> don’t measure it.
Roger Merriman
The real rest HR is during sleep and for a healthy normal person with a good condition lies aroud 45 to 55 bpm. Just sitting on the couch doing nothing around 65 bpm. Walking around 70 to 85 bpm. As already mentioned in can vary.
Lou
It's not one size fits all....
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 9:05:42?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:beats below maximum.
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 5:19:51?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 8:05:15?AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:51:07 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 7:23:13?AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote: >> > > >> On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:08:55 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 5:03:12?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 16:53:49 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 2:28:29?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 13:40:16 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25?AM UTC+2, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so
February next year.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until
riding with a HRM for over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain intensity.Yeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who isEven a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an
approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on
a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that
the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort
over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so
that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum
effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of
the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM
is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower
end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a
greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low
as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
weaker. While you're at early retirement age you probably think that you can ride like you did when you were younger. Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your heart. In the group I used to ride with, they have done exactly that.So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that doesn't actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart Association? I hate to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't get stronger if you overtax it - it gets
Lou
with a HR of 140 bpm.
Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that max heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. I have a high rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now at my age. I can’t help it. I can’t climb a 10% climb
funded by doctors. I imagine that by now they were unable to refuse the dollars donated by Uncle Sam but with no strings attached.I said my resting heart rate was usually in the mid 40s, butI don't remember ever asking the American Heart Association for health
Lou
advice.. or the CDC, or the WHO, or anybody else... other than my
own doctor. He says, "my hard riding is why my heart is in such good
shape."
If your rest heart rate is actually 130 as you wrote I would question my doctor very closely.
occasionally showed up, according to Garmin, in the mid to low 30s. My
doctor is not concerned about that.
Lou is correct that there are variations but not more than 10%. Your heart is nothing to play games with. The American Heart Association is NOT a government entity - it is a privately funded organization that initially was almost entirely
diseaseI don't give a rats ass who/what/where the American Heart Association
is. I go by what my doctor says.
Even the WHO lists the top two causes of death related to the heart - Ischemic Heart Disease and Stroke (high blood pressure). In the last 20 years the rates of heart disease has risen 31% This growth has been almost entirely from heart
big mouth. But we won't have to worry about him for long. As soon as I advised everyone to not take that covid-19 vaccine he rushed down and got it. Now the micro-particles from the mRNA have been found in every organ in the body and with his health"mid to low 130s"The WHO (World Health Organization) can kiss my ass, along with all
the rest of the "United Nation."
You had a typo then since your posting was "My resting heart rate is usually around 140, but my Garmin watch
occasionally shows it dropping down in the mid to low 130s as I sleep.
Doctor says "no problem."
Last year mine would get as low as 20 but that inconceivable fool Lieberman told us all that that wasn't possible because the last hint he had of any sort of knowledge was when he got employed as an engineer and was fired the next day for his
someone your age. Most of them have build up in the veins and through a stethoscope he can hear the whooshing. Constant exercise caused the good cholesterol to wash most of the bad out of the main heart arteries and this sound which is in most people is
Do you understand that that would be your heart racing? 30 to 40 is a normal resting heart rate. Standing and walking about 60 to 80. Max heart rate is 220 minus your age. This may not be precise but it is very close.
The heart is a muscle that does not repair itself well. Damage to it usually leaves permanent injuries. Could I exceed 140? Of course I could but it is smart not to. A doctor saying that you have a good heart means that he is comparing you to
oxygenate your blood and your entire body becomes starved for O2. This is especially important for the heart.
Exceeding you maximum recommended heart rate for more than a couple of seconds causes damage to the heart which is also supplied with oxygen by the pumping action. Exceeding your recommended heart rate means that your lungs cannot properly
ass Krygowski will tell you that going from research and development of one important product to another means that I wasn't important to companies who needed their product of interest. Of course he doesn't even know what R&D is. He was too busy being
Remember I had to study this carefully since I designed and programmed the first practical heart/lung machine. (This is where Liebermann tells everyone he could have done it better with vacuum tubes. So why did they hire me and not him? Or that
rapidly find a new doctor.If I'd wanted your advice, I'd have asked for it... I didn't... MyI'm not advising you about anything - I'm pointing out that you made a false claim about your resting heart rate twice and a more likely statement between them. No big deal but if your doctor told you that a rest heart rate of 130 was good I would
heart health is really none of your business.
more than a typo and his 30 bbm while sleeping isn't particularly bad for a healthy person.I would consult my or a doctor when my resting HR would be 130 or 20 bpm.
Lou
If you have a strong heart and are in good condition 20, while not particularly healthy is OK if you're totally relaxed in a lounge chair. The important rest rate is when you're standing. And that should be around 70 or 80. Catrike's 130 was nothing
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 7:40:11?PM UTC+2, Roger Meriman wrote:
Lou Holtman <lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 6:27:51?PM UTC+2, Catrike Rider wrote:True but fairly obvious to be fair.
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 12:25:21 -0400, Catrike Rider
<sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 09:05:40 -0700 (PDT), Lou HoltmanMake that 40/45 BPM, 32 BPM... not 140... etc...
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 5:19:51?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 8:05:15?AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:I would consult my or a doctor when my resting HR would be 130 or 20 bpm.
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:51:07 -0700 (PDT), Tom KunichI'm not advising you about anything - I'm pointing out that you made >> >>>>> a false claim about your resting heart rate twice and a more likely
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 7:23:13?AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:If I'd wanted your advice, I'd have asked for it... I didn't... My
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:08:55 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 5:03:12?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:"mid to low 130s"
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 16:53:49 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 2:28:29?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:I said my resting heart rate was usually in the mid 40s, but
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 13:40:16 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:I don't remember ever asking the American Heart Association for health
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25?AM UTC+2, John B. wrote:So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou HoltmanYeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:Even a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of
climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of
years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried
to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate
5 or so beats below maximum.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my
heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on
Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't
feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased
up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would
be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit
175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on
until February next year.
approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on
a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that
the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort
over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so
that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum
effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of
the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM
is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower
end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a
greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low
as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who is riding with a HRM for
over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain
intensity.
Lou
doesn't actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart
Association? I hate to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't
get stronger if you overtax it - it gets weaker. While you're at early
retirement age you probably think that you can ride like you >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> did when you were younger. Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your
heart. In the group I used to ride with, they have done exactly that.
Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> max heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a high rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at my age. I can’t help it. I can’t climb a 10% climb with a HR of 140 bpm.
Lou
advice.. or the CDC, or the WHO, or anybody else... other than my
own doctor. He says, "my hard riding is why my heart is in such good
shape."
If your rest heart rate is actually 130 as you wrote I would
question my doctor very closely.
occasionally showed up, according to Garmin, in the mid to low 30s. My
doctor is not concerned about that.
Lou is correct that there are variations but not more than 10%. >> >>>>>>>>>>> Your heart is nothing to play games with. The American HeartI don't give a rats ass who/what/where the American Heart Association
Association is NOT a government entity - it is a privately
funded organization that initially was almost entirely funded by doctors. I
imagine that by now they were unable to refuse the dollars
donated by Uncle Sam but with no strings attached.
is. I go by what my doctor says.
Even the WHO lists the top two causes of death related to theThe WHO (World Health Organization) can kiss my ass, along with all
heart - Ischemic Heart Disease and Stroke (high blood
pressure). In the last 20 years the rates of heart disease has >> >>>>>>>>>>> risen 31% This growth has been almost entirely from heart disease
the rest of the "United Nation."
You had a typo then since your posting was "My resting heart rate >> >>>>>>>>> is usually around 140, but my Garmin watch
occasionally shows it dropping down in the mid to low 130s as I sleep.
Doctor says "no problem."
Last year mine would get as low as 20 but that inconceivable fool >> >>>>>>>>> Lieberman told us all that that wasn't possible because the last >> >>>>>>>>> hint he had of any sort of knowledge was when he got employed as >> >>>>>>>>> an engineer and was fired the next day for his big mouth. But we >> >>>>>>>>> won't have to worry about him for long. As soon as I advised
everyone to not take that covid-19 vaccine he rushed down and got >> >>>>>>>>> it. Now the micro-particles from the mRNA have been found in
every organ in the body and with his health record it won't be
too long before this shows up as cancer.
Do you understand that that would be your heart racing? 30 to 40 is >> >>>>>>> a normal resting heart rate. Standing and walking about 60 to 80.
Max heart rate is 220 minus your age. This may not be precise but it is very close.
The heart is a muscle that does not repair itself well. Damage to
it usually leaves permanent injuries. Could I exceed 140? Of course >> >>>>>>> I could but it is smart not to. A doctor saying that you have a
good heart means that he is comparing you to someone your age. Most >> >>>>>>> of them have build up in the veins and through a stethoscope he can >> >>>>>>> hear the whooshing. Constant exercise caused the good cholesterol
to wash most of the bad out of the main heart arteries and this
sound which is in most people is not present.
Exceeding you maximum recommended heart rate for more than a couple >> >>>>>>> of seconds causes damage to the heart which is also supplied with
oxygen by the pumping action. Exceeding your recommended heart rate >> >>>>>>> means that your lungs cannot properly oxygenate your blood and your >> >>>>>>> entire body becomes starved for O2. This is especially important for the heart.
Remember I had to study this carefully since I designed and
programmed the first practical heart/lung machine. (This is where
Liebermann tells everyone he could have done it better with vacuum >> >>>>>>> tubes. So why did they hire me and not him? Or that ass Krygowski
will tell you that going from research and development of one
important product to another means that I wasn't important to
companies who needed their product of interest. Of course he
doesn't even know what R&D is. He was too busy being one of those who can't. )
heart health is really none of your business.
statement between them. No big deal but if your doctor told you that >> >>>>> a rest heart rate of 130 was good I would rapidly find a new doctor. >> >>>>
Lou
My usual resting heart as recorded by my Garmin watch runs 140/145.
I've seen it show as low as 132, but the Garmin watch is not the best
at discerning heart rate. More often, while I was being professionally >> >>> monitored, (I've been hospitalized a few times.. not for heart
issues) it would drift below 140. I've been asked "is that normal?" I
reply that it is and they say no more about it. My father had a
similar low heart rate and we both registered very low blood pressure. >> >>> He lived well into his 90s, as did his father, and my mother. My only
concern about this is that I might live beyond my ability to be self
sufficient or that I will live longer than my wife, who is younger
than me but has health issues.
That makes quite a difference in this discussion.
Lou
And as ever heart rates do differ, I have no idea what my resting is as I
don’t measure it.
Roger Merriman
The real rest HR is during sleep and for a healthy normal person with a good condition lies aroud 45 to 55 bpm. Just sitting on the couch doing nothing around 65 bpm. Walking around 70 to 85 bpm. As already mentioned in can vary.
Lou
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 14:18:39 -0400, Catrike Rider
<soloman@drafting.not> wrote:
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 11:11:01 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman >><lou.holtman@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 7:40:11?PM UTC+2, Roger Meriman wrote:
Lou Holtman <lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 6:27:51?PM UTC+2, Catrike Rider wrote: >>>> >> On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 12:25:21 -0400, Catrike RiderTrue but fairly obvious to be fair.
<sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 09:05:40 -0700 (PDT), Lou HoltmanMake that 40/45 BPM, 32 BPM... not 140... etc...
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 5:19:51?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 8:05:15?AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
I would consult my or a doctor when my resting HR would be 130 or 20 bpm.On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:51:07 -0700 (PDT), Tom KunichI'm not advising you about anything - I'm pointing out that you made >>>> >>>>> a false claim about your resting heart rate twice and a more likely >>>> >>>>> statement between them. No big deal but if your doctor told you that >>>> >>>>> a rest heart rate of 130 was good I would rapidly find a new doctor. >>>> >>>>
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 7:23:13?AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:If I'd wanted your advice, I'd have asked for it... I didn't... My >>>> >>>>>> heart health is really none of your business.
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:08:55 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 5:03:12?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:"mid to low 130s"
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 16:53:49 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 2:28:29?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:I said my resting heart rate was usually in the mid 40s, but >>>> >>>>>>>>>> occasionally showed up, according to Garmin, in the mid to low 30s. My
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 13:40:16 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:I don't remember ever asking the American Heart Association for health
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25?AM UTC+2, John B. wrote:So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Association? I hate to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:Yeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who is riding with a HRM for
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:Even a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of
climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of
years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried
to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate
5 or so beats below maximum.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my
heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on
Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't
feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased
up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would
be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit
175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on
until February next year.
approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on
a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that
the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort
over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so
that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum
effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of
the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM
is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower
end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a
greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low
as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain
intensity.
Lou
get stronger if you overtax it - it gets weaker. While you're at early
retirement age you probably think that you can ride like you
did when you were younger. Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your
heart. In the group I used to ride with, they have done exactly that.
Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> max heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a high rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at my age. I can’t help it. I can’t climb a 10% climb with a HR of 140 bpm.
Lou
advice.. or the CDC, or the WHO, or anybody else... other than my
own doctor. He says, "my hard riding is why my heart is in such good
shape."
If your rest heart rate is actually 130 as you wrote I would >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> question my doctor very closely.
doctor is not concerned about that.
Lou is correct that there are variations but not more than 10%.I don't give a rats ass who/what/where the American Heart Association
Your heart is nothing to play games with. The American Heart >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Association is NOT a government entity - it is a privately >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> funded organization that initially was almost entirely funded by doctors. I
imagine that by now they were unable to refuse the dollars >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> donated by Uncle Sam but with no strings attached.
is. I go by what my doctor says.
Even the WHO lists the top two causes of death related to the >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> heart - Ischemic Heart Disease and Stroke (high bloodThe WHO (World Health Organization) can kiss my ass, along with all
pressure). In the last 20 years the rates of heart disease has >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> risen 31% This growth has been almost entirely from heart disease
the rest of the "United Nation."
You had a typo then since your posting was "My resting heart rate
is usually around 140, but my Garmin watch
occasionally shows it dropping down in the mid to low 130s as I sleep.
Doctor says "no problem."
Last year mine would get as low as 20 but that inconceivable fool
Lieberman told us all that that wasn't possible because the last >>>> >>>>>>>>> hint he had of any sort of knowledge was when he got employed as >>>> >>>>>>>>> an engineer and was fired the next day for his big mouth. But we >>>> >>>>>>>>> won't have to worry about him for long. As soon as I advised >>>> >>>>>>>>> everyone to not take that covid-19 vaccine he rushed down and got
it. Now the micro-particles from the mRNA have been found in >>>> >>>>>>>>> every organ in the body and with his health record it won't be >>>> >>>>>>>>> too long before this shows up as cancer.
Do you understand that that would be your heart racing? 30 to 40 is
a normal resting heart rate. Standing and walking about 60 to 80. >>>> >>>>>>> Max heart rate is 220 minus your age. This may not be precise but it is very close.
The heart is a muscle that does not repair itself well. Damage to >>>> >>>>>>> it usually leaves permanent injuries. Could I exceed 140? Of course
I could but it is smart not to. A doctor saying that you have a >>>> >>>>>>> good heart means that he is comparing you to someone your age. Most
of them have build up in the veins and through a stethoscope he can
hear the whooshing. Constant exercise caused the good cholesterol >>>> >>>>>>> to wash most of the bad out of the main heart arteries and this >>>> >>>>>>> sound which is in most people is not present.
Exceeding you maximum recommended heart rate for more than a couple
of seconds causes damage to the heart which is also supplied with >>>> >>>>>>> oxygen by the pumping action. Exceeding your recommended heart rate
means that your lungs cannot properly oxygenate your blood and your
entire body becomes starved for O2. This is especially important for the heart.
Remember I had to study this carefully since I designed and
programmed the first practical heart/lung machine. (This is where >>>> >>>>>>> Liebermann tells everyone he could have done it better with vacuum >>>> >>>>>>> tubes. So why did they hire me and not him? Or that ass Krygowski >>>> >>>>>>> will tell you that going from research and development of one
important product to another means that I wasn't important to
companies who needed their product of interest. Of course he
doesn't even know what R&D is. He was too busy being one of those who can't. )
Lou
My usual resting heart as recorded by my Garmin watch runs 140/145. >>>> >>> I've seen it show as low as 132, but the Garmin watch is not the best >>>> >>> at discerning heart rate. More often, while I was being professionally >>>> >>> monitored, (I've been hospitalized a few times.. not for heart
issues) it would drift below 140. I've been asked "is that normal?" I >>>> >>> reply that it is and they say no more about it. My father had a
similar low heart rate and we both registered very low blood pressure. >>>> >>> He lived well into his 90s, as did his father, and my mother. My only >>>> >>> concern about this is that I might live beyond my ability to be self >>>> >>> sufficient or that I will live longer than my wife, who is younger >>>> >>> than me but has health issues.
That makes quite a difference in this discussion.
Lou
And as ever heart rates do differ, I have no idea what my resting is as I >>>> don’t measure it.
Roger Merriman
The real rest HR is during sleep and for a healthy normal person with a good condition lies aroud 45 to 55 bpm. Just sitting on the couch doing nothing around 65 bpm. Walking around 70 to 85 bpm. As already mentioned in can vary.
Lou
It's not one size fits all....
Normal heart rate is in the 60 - 100 BPM range >https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/fitness/expert-answers/heart-rate/faq-20057979
but notice that they also state that:
"Keep in mind that many factors can influence heart rate, including:
Age
Fitness and activity levels
Being a smoker
Having cardiovascular disease, high cholesterol or diabetes
Air temperature
Body position (standing up or lying down, for example)
Emotions
Body size
Medications
"
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 10:51:10?AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:below maximum.
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 7:23:13?AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:08:55 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 5:03:12?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote: >> > >> On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 16:53:49 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 2:28:29?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 13:40:16 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25?AM UTC+2, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so beats
next year.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until February
with a HRM for over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain intensity.Yeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who is ridingEven a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an
approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on
a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that
the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort
over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so
that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum
effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of
the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM
is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower
end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a
greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low
as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
While you're at early retirement age you probably think that you can ride like you did when you were younger. Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your heart. In the group I used to ride with, they have done exactly that.So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that doesn't actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart Association? I hate to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't get stronger if you overtax it - it gets weaker.
Lou
a HR of 140 bpm.
Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that max heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. I have a high rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now at my age. I can’t help it. I can’t climb a 10% climb with
funded by doctors. I imagine that by now they were unable to refuse the dollars donated by Uncle Sam but with no strings attached.I said my resting heart rate was usually in the mid 40s, butI don't remember ever asking the American Heart Association for health
Lou
advice.. or the CDC, or the WHO, or anybody else... other than my
own doctor. He says, "my hard riding is why my heart is in such good >> > >> >> shape."
If your rest heart rate is actually 130 as you wrote I would question my doctor very closely.
occasionally showed up, according to Garmin, in the mid to low 30s. My >> > >> doctor is not concerned about that.
Lou is correct that there are variations but not more than 10%. Your heart is nothing to play games with. The American Heart Association is NOT a government entity - it is a privately funded organization that initially was almost entirely
mouth. But we won't have to worry about him for long. As soon as I advised everyone to not take that covid-19 vaccine he rushed down and got it. Now the micro-particles from the mRNA have been found in every organ in the body and with his health record"mid to low 130s"I don't give a rats ass who/what/where the American Heart Association >> > >> is. I go by what my doctor says.
Even the WHO lists the top two causes of death related to the heart - Ischemic Heart Disease and Stroke (high blood pressure). In the last 20 years the rates of heart disease has risen 31% This growth has been almost entirely from heart diseaseThe WHO (World Health Organization) can kiss my ass, along with all
the rest of the "United Nation."
You had a typo then since your posting was "My resting heart rate is usually around 140, but my Garmin watch
occasionally shows it dropping down in the mid to low 130s as I sleep.
Doctor says "no problem."
Last year mine would get as low as 20 but that inconceivable fool Lieberman told us all that that wasn't possible because the last hint he had of any sort of knowledge was when he got employed as an engineer and was fired the next day for his big
your age. Most of them have build up in the veins and through a stethoscope he can hear the whooshing. Constant exercise caused the good cholesterol to wash most of the bad out of the main heart arteries and this sound which is in most people is notDo you understand that that would be your heart racing? 30 to 40 is a normal resting heart rate. Standing and walking about 60 to 80. Max heart rate is 220 minus your age. This may not be precise but it is very close.
None of that is true.
The heart is a muscle that does not repair itself well. Damage to it usually leaves permanent injuries. Could I exceed 140? Of course I could but it is smart not to. A doctor saying that you have a good heart means that he is comparing you to someone
your blood and your entire body becomes starved for O2. This is especially important for the heart.
Exceeding you maximum recommended heart rate for more than a couple of seconds causes damage to the heart which is also supplied with oxygen by the pumping action. Exceeding your recommended heart rate means that your lungs cannot properly oxygenate
It's called oxygen debt, and it's a regular training target. https://www.runnersworld.com/advanced/a20815819/interval-sessions-increasing-your-v02-max/
Remember I had to study this carefully since I designed and programmed the first practical heart/lung machine.
None of that is true either.
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 7:23:13?AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:below maximum.
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:08:55 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 5:03:12?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote: >> >> On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 16:53:49 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 2:28:29?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 13:40:16 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 9:13:17?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:07:19?AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:27:25?AM UTC+2, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
<lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 5:25:04?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I wore my new heart rate monitor for the 25 miles ride with 2000 feet of climbing.
I rode out to Pleasanton and back with a friend and he is a couple of years older than me., I watched him disappear up the climbs and if I tried to keep up with him I maxed out. So I would slow up to keep my heart rate 5 or so beats
next year.
One of the things that I noticed is that traffic significantly kicked my heart rate up. My rest heart rate is 84 or so but coasting down a hill on Dublin grade with traffic flying past, it was 99.
Max heart rate is supposed to be 220 minus your age. But at 140 I didn't feel all that stressed and my breathing wasn't all that hard but I eased up at 140 anyway. I can still climb anything but I just do it slower.
220 minus your age is just crap. For me it would mean that my max HR would be 154 bpm. Pfff, I just back from a week in the Dolomites. I easily hit 175 bpm in the climbs. It is after season and I take it easy from now on until February
with a HRM for over 30 years knows best how his body reacts to a ride with a certain intensity.Yeah everyone with a little experience knows that. If you point that out to a certain person you get the answer 'Why do you talk about things you know so little about? '. What a f*cking idioit. One might think that someone who is ridingEven a casual look on the Internet shows that the 220 - age is only an
approximation of safe maximum heart rate as actual maximum depends on
a number of factors such as age, heredity, health, strength and so on.
Runners talk about "the anaerobic threshold" which is the maximum that
the runner can sustain for a prolonged period.
Then too, distance runners and other sports that demand high effort
over a long period of time normally have a lower resting heart rate so
that has to be taken into consideration when talking about maximum
effort. If for example your rating heart range is in the high end of
the "normal heart rate" - 60 - 100 BPM, say 100 BPM then your 175 BPM
is an increase of 1.75%. If your resting heart rate in on the lower
end, say 60 BPM then your 175 BPM is an increase of 2.9% evidence of a
greater power output.
Top Marathon runners have a resting heart rate in the range of as low
as 33 BPM to a high of 49 BPM.
It is not quite as simple as just 220 - age (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
While you're at early retirement age you probably think that you can ride like you did when you were younger. Ignore the actual heart experts and destroy your heart. In the group I used to ride with, they have done exactly that.So you're actually agreeing with a 90 year old fool that doesn't actually ride bikes rather than the American Heart Association? I hate to tell you this but the heart is a muscle that doesn't get stronger if you overtax it - it gets weaker.
Lou
HR of 140 bpm.
Who said I overtax my heart Einstein. I was only saying that max heartrate is personal and mainly genetically determined. I have a high rev engine and my max HR is around 185 bpm now at my age. I can’t help it. I can’t climb a 10% climb with a
by doctors. I imagine that by now they were unable to refuse the dollars donated by Uncle Sam but with no strings attached.I said my resting heart rate was usually in the mid 40s, butI don't remember ever asking the American Heart Association for health >> >> >> advice.. or the CDC, or the WHO, or anybody else... other than my
Lou
own doctor. He says, "my hard riding is why my heart is in such good >> >> >> shape."
If your rest heart rate is actually 130 as you wrote I would question my doctor very closely.
occasionally showed up, according to Garmin, in the mid to low 30s. My
doctor is not concerned about that.
Lou is correct that there are variations but not more than 10%. Your heart is nothing to play games with. The American Heart Association is NOT a government entity - it is a privately funded organization that initially was almost entirely funded
mouth. But we won't have to worry about him for long. As soon as I advised everyone to not take that covid-19 vaccine he rushed down and got it. Now the micro-particles from the mRNA have been found in every organ in the body and with his health record"mid to low 130s"I don't give a rats ass who/what/where the American Heart Association
is. I go by what my doctor says.
Even the WHO lists the top two causes of death related to the heart - Ischemic Heart Disease and Stroke (high blood pressure). In the last 20 years the rates of heart disease has risen 31% This growth has been almost entirely from heart diseaseThe WHO (World Health Organization) can kiss my ass, along with all
the rest of the "United Nation."
You had a typo then since your posting was "My resting heart rate is usually around 140, but my Garmin watch
occasionally shows it dropping down in the mid to low 130s as I sleep.
Doctor says "no problem."
Last year mine would get as low as 20 but that inconceivable fool Lieberman told us all that that wasn't possible because the last hint he had of any sort of knowledge was when he got employed as an engineer and was fired the next day for his big
Do you understand that that would be your heart racing? 30 to 40 is a normal resting heart rate. Standing and walking about 60 to 80. Max heart rate is 220 minus your age. This may not be precise but it is very close.your age. Most of them have build up in the veins and through a stethoscope he can hear the whooshing. Constant exercise caused the good cholesterol to wash most of the bad out of the main heart arteries and this sound which is in most people is not
The heart is a muscle that does not repair itself well. Damage to it usually leaves permanent injuries. Could I exceed 140? Of course I could but it is smart not to. A doctor saying that you have a good heart means that he is comparing you to someone
Exceeding you maximum recommended heart rate for more than a couple of seconds causes damage to the heart which is also supplied with oxygen by the pumping action. Exceeding your recommended heart rate means that your lungs cannot properly oxygenateyour blood and your entire body becomes starved for O2. This is especially important for the heart.
Remember I had to study this carefully since I designed and programmed the first practical heart/lung machine. (This is where Liebermann tells everyone he could have done it better with vacuum tubes. So why did they hire me and not him? Or that assKrygowski will tell you that going from research and development of one important product to another means that I wasn't important to companies who needed their product of interest. Of course he doesn't even know what R&D is. He was too busy being one
Remember I had to study this carefully since I designed and programmed the first practical heart/lung machine.
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