• Final Word on Mike Vandeman and mountain biking from Ed Dolan

    From EdwardDolan@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 1 03:14:48 2016
    Time for me to move on. RBS was basically ruined by Mike Vandeman and also
    by me due to our constant harping on a single topic, mountain biking on
    single track trails. I am done discussing that topic. I am also done with defending Mike Vandeman since I discovered that he is a brain dead liberal know-nothing. If he can be that dumb on his politics, then he can’t be all that smart on anything else. I will not bother to either support or oppose
    him on his special topic, but he can damn well go to Hell along with all the other brain dead liberal know-nothings. And that is what I will tell him if
    he shows up on this newsgroup ever again.

    RBS is now open to other discussions. If some of you want to go on and on
    about mountain biking, I will let it pass. Truth to tell, the world is going
    to Hell and there is nothing anyone can do to prevent it, least of all an
    idiot like Mike Vandeman. The one thing he is for sure is a crank and a crackpot. I have always known that from the beginning, but I cut him lots of slack on that because of the nature of the special topic. But cranks and crackpots do not live in the real world. They live in their own cockeyed
    world and it is a waste of time to try to discuss anything with such types.

    It is my hope that we can open this newsgroup to discussion for the purposes for which the group was established, bicycles and recreation. Surely that is
    a broad enough topic to engender lots of interest from a variety of folks
    who like to bicycle. In short, let’s start over without any more drivel
    about mountain biking and hiking trails.

    Ed Dolan – Minnesota

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  • From sltom992@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Edward Dolan on Thu Aug 9 08:26:10 2018
    On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 1:14:46 AM UTC-8, Edward Dolan wrote:
    Time for me to move on. RBS was basically ruined by Mike Vandeman and also by me due to our constant harping on a single topic, mountain biking on single track trails. I am done discussing that topic. I am also done with defending Mike Vandeman since I discovered that he is a brain dead liberal know-nothing. If he can be that dumb on his politics, then he can’t be all that smart on anything else. I will not bother to either support or oppose him on his special topic, but he can damn well go to Hell along with all the other brain dead liberal know-nothings. And that is what I will tell him if he shows up on this newsgroup ever again.

    RBS is now open to other discussions. If some of you want to go on and on about mountain biking, I will let it pass. Truth to tell, the world is going to Hell and there is nothing anyone can do to prevent it, least of all an idiot like Mike Vandeman. The one thing he is for sure is a crank and a crackpot. I have always known that from the beginning, but I cut him lots of slack on that because of the nature of the special topic. But cranks and crackpots do not live in the real world. They live in their own cockeyed world and it is a waste of time to try to discuss anything with such types.

    It is my hope that we can open this newsgroup to discussion for the purposes for which the group was established, bicycles and recreation. Surely that is a broad enough topic to engender lots of interest from a variety of folks who like to bicycle. In short, let’s start over without any more drivel about mountain biking and hiking trails.

    Ed Dolan – Minnesota

    Ed, you are being far to critical. The lefties are trying to convince everyone that they are some sort of majority. They aren't. And every time one of them goes off about their dream world of socialism, taught in virtually every college in this country
    now, they alienate more and more people. Did you catch that socialist woman being asked how she intended to pay for free college and free health care? She showed the most scrambled brains I've ever seen. So thinking people, and most are, grow more and
    more perturbed by the Democrat Party and the nutcakes they have become. Watch the next election in November - the party in power normally loses about 14 seats but I suspect that we will lose none this year though I doubt that we will gain any since the
    blue states are blue for a reason - they are holding their breaths.

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  • From EdwardDolan@21:1/5 to Edward Dolan on Thu Aug 9 22:32:53 2018
    On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 1:14:46 AM UTC-8, Edward Dolan wrote:

    Time for me to move on. RBS was basically ruined by Mike Vandeman and also
    by me due to our constant harping on a single topic, mountain biking on single track trails. I am done discussing that topic. I am also done with defending Mike Vandeman since I discovered that he is a brain dead liberal know-nothing. If he can be that dumb on his politics, then he can’t be all that smart on anything else. I will not bother to either support or oppose him on his special topic, but he can damn well go to Hell along with all
    the
    other brain dead liberal know-nothings. And that is what I will tell him
    if
    he shows up on this newsgroup ever again.

    RBS is now open to other discussions. If some of you want to go on and on about mountain biking, I will let it pass. Truth to tell, the world is
    going
    to Hell and there is nothing anyone can do to prevent it, least of all an idiot like Mike Vandeman. The one thing he is for sure is a crank and a crackpot. I have always known that from the beginning, but I cut him lots
    of
    slack on that because of the nature of the special topic. But cranks and crackpots do not live in the real world. They live in their own cockeyed world and it is a waste of time to try to discuss anything with such
    types.

    It is my hope that we can open this newsgroup to discussion for the
    purposes
    for which the group was established, bicycles and recreation. Surely that
    is
    a broad enough topic to engender lots of interest from a variety of folks
    who like to bicycle. In short, let’s start over without any more drivel about mountain biking and hiking trails.

    Ed Dolan – Minnesota

    Ed, you are being far to critical. The lefties are trying to convince
    everyone that they are some sort of majority. They aren't. And every time
    one of them goes off about their dream world of socialism, taught in
    virtually every college in this country now, they alienate more and more
    people. Did you catch that socialist woman being asked how she intended
    to pay for free college and free health care? She showed the most
    scrambled brains I've ever seen. So thinking people, and most are, grow
    more and more perturbed by the Democrat Party and the nutcakes they have
    become. Watch the next election in November - the party in power normally
    loses about 14 seats but I suspect that we will lose none this year
    though I doubt that we will gain any since the blue states are blue for a
    reason - they are holding their breaths.

    Mike Vandeman was for open borders, yet he wanted to preserve the
    environment in as pristine a condition as possible. When I pointed our to
    him this contradiction. he came back with the idea that you could control
    what people did no matter how crowded things got. I realized at that point
    that I was talking to a crank and a crackpot.

    What bothers me the most is that certain large sections of the nation seem
    to be embarked on permanent liberal trajectory. The West Coast and the North Eastern states come immediately to mind as well as most large cities. Thank
    God for the middle of the country, especially the rural areas, which remain Republican and conservative. It was a miracle that Trump won, but you can
    see how the media and other mainline institutions are attempting to destroy him. The culture of the nation has become liberal and I do not know if Trump can turn things around. I suspect not.

    Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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  • From Tom Kunich@21:1/5 to Edward Dolan on Wed Jan 11 10:01:31 2023
    On Thursday, August 9, 2018 at 8:32:53 PM UTC-7, Edward Dolan wrote:
    On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 1:14:46 AM UTC-8, Edward Dolan wrote:

    Time for me to move on. RBS was basically ruined by Mike Vandeman and also by me due to our constant harping on a single topic, mountain biking on single track trails. I am done discussing that topic. I am also done with defending Mike Vandeman since I discovered that he is a brain dead liberal know-nothing. If he can be that dumb on his politics, then he can’t be all
    that smart on anything else. I will not bother to either support or oppose him on his special topic, but he can damn well go to Hell along with all the
    other brain dead liberal know-nothings. And that is what I will tell him if
    he shows up on this newsgroup ever again.

    RBS is now open to other discussions. If some of you want to go on and on about mountain biking, I will let it pass. Truth to tell, the world is going
    to Hell and there is nothing anyone can do to prevent it, least of all an idiot like Mike Vandeman. The one thing he is for sure is a crank and a crackpot. I have always known that from the beginning, but I cut him lots of
    slack on that because of the nature of the special topic. But cranks and crackpots do not live in the real world. They live in their own cockeyed world and it is a waste of time to try to discuss anything with such types.

    It is my hope that we can open this newsgroup to discussion for the purposes
    for which the group was established, bicycles and recreation. Surely that is
    a broad enough topic to engender lots of interest from a variety of folks who like to bicycle. In short, let’s start over without any more drivel about mountain biking and hiking trails.

    Ed Dolan – Minnesota

    Ed, you are being far to critical. The lefties are trying to convince
    everyone that they are some sort of majority. They aren't. And every time >> one of them goes off about their dream world of socialism, taught in
    virtually every college in this country now, they alienate more and more >> people. Did you catch that socialist woman being asked how she intended >> to pay for free college and free health care? She showed the most
    scrambled brains I've ever seen. So thinking people, and most are, grow >> more and more perturbed by the Democrat Party and the nutcakes they have >> become. Watch the next election in November - the party in power normally >> loses about 14 seats but I suspect that we will lose none this year
    though I doubt that we will gain any since the blue states are blue for a >> reason - they are holding their breaths.
    Mike Vandeman was for open borders, yet he wanted to preserve the environment in as pristine a condition as possible. When I pointed our to him this contradiction. he came back with the idea that you could control what people did no matter how crowded things got. I realized at that point that I was talking to a crank and a crackpot.

    What bothers me the most is that certain large sections of the nation seem to be embarked on permanent liberal trajectory. The West Coast and the North Eastern states come immediately to mind as well as most large cities. Thank God for the middle of the country, especially the rural areas, which remain Republican and conservative. It was a miracle that Trump won, but you can see how the media and other mainline institutions are attempting to destroy him. The culture of the nation has become liberal and I do not know if Trump can turn things around. I suspect not.

    Ed Dolan - Minnesota
    The bicycle groups are all inhabited by normal people and normal people have a large percentage of cranks in them so Vandeman who is probably dead of old age or the effects of the covid-19 vaccine by now is just another member of the groups.

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  • From pH@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 14 02:09:50 2023
    On 2023-01-11, Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
    <snip>
    Heavens to Murgagroyd!

    "Ed Dolan the Great" and Mike Vandeman(n)!

    Pinch me, I must be dreaming......

    I wonder if Vandemann is stilll alive.....?

    pH

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  • From EdwardDolan@21:1/5 to Edward Dolan on Sat Jan 28 08:01:28 2023
    "Tom Kunich" wrote in message news:66a4402e-630e-420f-88ce-86092bd7a96en@googlegroups.com...

    On Thursday, August 9, 2018 at 8:32:53 PM UTC-7, Edward Dolan wrote:
    On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 1:14:46 AM UTC-8, Edward Dolan wrote:

    Time for me to move on. RBS was basically ruined by Mike Vandeman and
    also
    by me due to our constant harping on a single topic, mountain biking on single track trails. I am done discussing that topic. I am also done
    with
    defending Mike Vandeman since I discovered that he is a brain dead
    liberal
    know-nothing. If he can be that dumb on his politics, then he can’t be all
    that smart on anything else. I will not bother to either support or
    oppose
    him on his special topic, but he can damn well go to Hell along with all the
    other brain dead liberal know-nothings. And that is what I will tell him
    if
    he shows up on this newsgroup ever again.

    RBS is now open to other discussions. If some of you want to go on and
    on
    about mountain biking, I will let it pass. Truth to tell, the world is going
    to Hell and there is nothing anyone can do to prevent it, least of all
    an
    idiot like Mike Vandeman. The one thing he is for sure is a crank and a crackpot. I have always known that from the beginning, but I cut him
    lots
    of
    slack on that because of the nature of the special topic. But cranks and crackpots do not live in the real world. They live in their own cockeyed world and it is a waste of time to try to discuss anything with such
    types.

    It is my hope that we can open this newsgroup to discussion for the purposes
    for which the group was established, bicycles and recreation. Surely
    that
    is
    a broad enough topic to engender lots of interest from a variety of
    folks
    who like to bicycle. In short, let’s start over without any more drivel about mountain biking and hiking trails.

    Ed Dolan – Minnesota

    Ed, you are being far to critical. The lefties are trying to convince
    everyone that they are some sort of majority. They aren't. And every
    time
    one of them goes off about their dream world of socialism, taught in
    virtually every college in this country now, they alienate more and
    more
    people. Did you catch that socialist woman being asked how she intended
    to pay for free college and free health care? She showed the most
    scrambled brains I've ever seen. So thinking people, and most are, grow
    more and more perturbed by the Democrat Party and the nutcakes they
    have
    become. Watch the next election in November - the party in power
    normally
    loses about 14 seats but I suspect that we will lose none this year
    though I doubt that we will gain any since the blue states are blue for
    a
    reason - they are holding their breaths.

    Mike Vandeman was for open borders, yet he wanted to preserve the
    environment in as pristine a condition as possible. When I pointed out to
    him this contradiction, he came back with the idea that you could control what people did no matter how crowded things got. I realized at that point that I was talking to a crank and a crackpot.

    What bothers me the most is that certain large sections of the nation seem
    to be embarked on permanent liberal trajectory. The West Coast and the
    North
    Eastern states come immediately to mind as well as most large cities.
    Thank
    God for the middle of the country, especially the rural areas, which
    remain
    Republican and conservative. It was a miracle that Trump won, but you can
    see how the media and other mainline institutions are attempting to
    destroy
    him. The culture of the nation has become liberal and I do not know if
    Trump
    can turn things around. I suspect not.

    Ed Dolan - Minnesota

    The bicycle groups are all inhabited by normal people and normal people have
    a large percentage of cranks in them so Vandeman who is probably dead of old age or the effects of the covid-19 vaccine by now is just another member of
    the groups.

    Mike Vandeman and I petty much destroyed this news group. Tom Sherman >>>>> and I destroyed other bicycle newsgroups. This was inevitable as there >>>>> were no moderators or editors for the groups. You simply must have
    them. Otherwise, craziness prevails. And as you say, normal people
    will leave in flocks.

    If you will notice in the comments section to all news articles
    appearing on the Internet there are moderators who will delete a post >>>>> for various reasons. This is of course a form of censorship, but quite >>>>> necessary. Usenet was a free-for-all and that is what finally
    destroyed it.

    I think both Mike Vandeman and Tom Sherman simply wearied of the
    eternal conflict. Frankly I got tired of kicking ass myself. Usenet
    discussions not only needed a moderator, they also needed a director. >>>>> It is good riddance to a type of forum which was impossible from the >>>>> get-go. Nevertheless it lasted for a few years and was fun while it
    lasted. We should not mourn its passing.

    Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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