• Corona

    From Joy Beeson@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 16 23:58:53 2020
    Shamelessly snitched from a post that was re-posted on Facebook.
    Attributions lost somewhere along the way.

    As an RN's daughter, an RN's sister, a First Responder, and the
    survivor of uncounted infections, I can vouch for this advice.

    I'm rashly assuming that you have the common sense to ignore the bits
    that do not apply. Note that the medications are not a shopping list,
    but a memory-jogger, to remind you of stuff that *you* need when
    you're down with a cold.

    I've always kept cough drops in the freezer on the grounds that when I
    need them, I don't feel like shopping.

    I'd suggest soaking in a hot tub instead of sitting next to a shower,
    but we had ours taken out. I need it only when I'm too sick to clean
    a tub -- and a seldom-used tub has to be cleaned *before* as well as
    after. Not worth the house room.

    A fond memory of dormitory life: When I felt poorly, I could go down
    the hall and soak in a tub that somebody else had to clean.

    Wringing a large washrag out of hot water and laying it over your face
    for a few minutes is also good.


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    Great advice

    [above line a comment on the re-post; quote proper begins here]

    ?Allison Langeland?
    to
    Coopersville Informed
    March 12 at 8:31 AM
    Danielle Weatherup
    March 11 at 10:05 AM

    So what I have seen a lot of is recommendations for how to try to
    avoid getting coronavirus in the first place -- good handwashing --
    but what I have NOT seen a lot of is advice for what happens if you
    actually get it, which many of us will. So as your friendly
    neighborhood RN, let me make some suggestions.

    You basically just want to prepare as though you know you’re going to
    get a nasty respiratory bug, like bronchitis or pneumonia. You just
    have the foresight to know it’s coming.

    Things you could consider buying ahead of time so you're not trying to
    go out when you actually have symptoms (not sure what the obsession
    with toilet paper is?): Kleenex, Acetaminophen (Tylenol) in 325 mg
    tablets, Ibuprofen (Advil) in 200 mg tablets, Mucinex, Robitussin or
    whatever your generic cough medicine of choice is (check the label and
    make sure you're not doubling up on acetaminophen - some brands like
    DayQuil have it included and you don't want that). You want a cough
    medicine with both a cough suppressant and expectorant. Vix vaporub
    for your chest is also a great suggestion. (Also I should think this
    would go without saying, but editing to add that of COURSE if you have
    a medical contraindication to any of these over the counter meds, you
    should not take them. If you are on blood thinners, for example, no
    Advil for you — if you are on blood pressure meds, you need to be
    careful about which cough medicine you take. Check with your doc or
    pharmacist if you’re even the slightest bit unsure and these aren’t
    meds you routinely take for a cough/cold)

    If you don’t have a humidifier, that would be a good thing to buy and
    run in your room when you go to bed overnight. (You can also just turn
    the shower on hot and sit in the bathroom breathing in the steam). If
    you have a history of asthma and you have a prescription inhaler, make
    sure the one you have isn’t expired and refill it/get a new one if it
    is.

    This is also a good time to meal prep: make a big batch of your
    favorite soup to freeze and have on hand. Whatever your favorite clear
    fluids are to drink (Sprite, juice, ICE waters, Fresca, whatever
    floats your boat), stock your pantry with those. Maybe get some nice
    soothing tea too!

    For a fever over 101 (again, assuming you are safe to take them), you
    can alternate Tylenol 650 mg and Advil 400 mg so you’re taking a dose
    of one then the other every 3 hours (ie Tylenol at 9 am, Advil at
    noon, Tylenol at 3 Pm etc). If you’re not supposed to take one or the
    other, of course just take the one you can take, but read the label
    and don’t exceed the recommended max dose for 24 hrs.

    Drink A TON, hydrate hydrate hydrate. Rest lots. You should not be
    leaving your house except to go to the doctor (please CALL them
    FIRST), and if you do, wear a mask (regular is fine, you don’t need an
    N95).

    You DO NOT NEED TO GO TO THE ER unless you are having trouble
    breathing or your fever is very high and unmanaged with meds. The
    vast, overwhelming majority of healthy adult cases thus far have been
    managed at home with basic rest/hydration/over-the-counter meds. We
    don’t want to clog the ERs unless you’re actually in distress. The
    hospital beds will be used for people who actively need
    oxygen/breathing treatments/IV fluids.

    If you have a pre-existing lung condition (COPD, emphysema, lung
    cancer) or are on immunosuppressants, now is a great time to talk to
    your PCP or specialist about what they would like you to do if you get
    sick. They might have plans to get you admitted and bypass the ER
    entirely.

    One major relief to you parents is that kids do VERY well with
    coronavirus— they usually bounce back in a few days, NO ONE under 18
    has died, and almost no kids have required hospitalization (unless
    they have a lung disease like CF). Be sure to use kids formulations of
    OTC meds and dose appropriately for their age/weight, and ask the
    pediatrician if you have any questions about medication safety for
    your child’s age.

    I'm always around if you have questions, just shoot me a message any
    time. Just be calm and prepare rationally and everything will be just
    ducky. ??

    Edited to add: WHOAH, dude. Intended this for my healthy friends and
    family, and this went way further than anticipated. Of course NO
    advice is one size fits all, and this is just common sense stuff for
    your average Joe adult to try to be prepared and not overwhelm our
    hospitals with every case of the sniffles, but please use your head,
    consult your doctor or pharmacist, and for the love of god don't use
    me as the be-all-end-all resource here.


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    Joy Beeson
    joy beeson at comcast dot net
    http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/

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  • From John B.@21:1/5 to jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid on Tue Mar 17 11:47:14 2020
    On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 23:58:53 -0400, Joy Beeson
    <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:


    Shamelessly snitched from a post that was re-posted on Facebook.
    Attributions lost somewhere along the way.

    As an RN's daughter, an RN's sister, a First Responder, and the
    survivor of uncounted infections, I can vouch for this advice.

    I'm rashly assuming that you have the common sense to ignore the bits
    that do not apply. Note that the medications are not a shopping list,
    but a memory-jogger, to remind you of stuff that *you* need when
    you're down with a cold.

    I've always kept cough drops in the freezer on the grounds that when I
    need them, I don't feel like shopping.

    I'd suggest soaking in a hot tub instead of sitting next to a shower,
    but we had ours taken out. I need it only when I'm too sick to clean
    a tub -- and a seldom-used tub has to be cleaned *before* as well as
    after. Not worth the house room.

    A fond memory of dormitory life: When I felt poorly, I could go down
    the hall and soak in a tub that somebody else had to clean.

    Wringing a large washrag out of hot water and laying it over your face
    for a few minutes is also good.


    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    Begin quote: >-----------------------------------------------------------------------

    Great advice

    [above line a comment on the re-post; quote proper begins here]

    ?Allison Langeland?
    to
    Coopersville Informed
    March 12 at 8:31 AM
    Danielle Weatherup
    March 11 at 10:05 AM

    So what I have seen a lot of is recommendations for how to try to
    avoid getting coronavirus in the first place -- good handwashing --
    but what I have NOT seen a lot of is advice for what happens if you
    actually get it, which many of us will. So as your friendly
    neighborhood RN, let me make some suggestions.

    You basically just want to prepare as though you know youre going to
    get a nasty respiratory bug, like bronchitis or pneumonia. You just
    have the foresight to know its coming.

    Things you could consider buying ahead of time so you're not trying to
    go out when you actually have symptoms (not sure what the obsession
    with toilet paper is?): Kleenex, Acetaminophen (Tylenol) in 325 mg
    tablets, Ibuprofen (Advil) in 200 mg tablets, Mucinex, Robitussin or
    whatever your generic cough medicine of choice is (check the label and
    make sure you're not doubling up on acetaminophen - some brands like
    DayQuil have it included and you don't want that). You want a cough
    medicine with both a cough suppressant and expectorant. Vix vaporub
    for your chest is also a great suggestion. (Also I should think this
    would go without saying, but editing to add that of COURSE if you have
    a medical contraindication to any of these over the counter meds, you
    should not take them. If you are on blood thinners, for example, no
    Advil for you if you are on blood pressure meds, you need to be
    careful about which cough medicine you take. Check with your doc or >pharmacist if youre even the slightest bit unsure and these arent
    meds you routinely take for a cough/cold)

    If you dont have a humidifier, that would be a good thing to buy and
    run in your room when you go to bed overnight. (You can also just turn
    the shower on hot and sit in the bathroom breathing in the steam). If
    you have a history of asthma and you have a prescription inhaler, make
    sure the one you have isnt expired and refill it/get a new one if it
    is.

    This is also a good time to meal prep: make a big batch of your
    favorite soup to freeze and have on hand. Whatever your favorite clear
    fluids are to drink (Sprite, juice, ICE waters, Fresca, whatever
    floats your boat), stock your pantry with those. Maybe get some nice
    soothing tea too!

    For a fever over 101 (again, assuming you are safe to take them), you
    can alternate Tylenol 650 mg and Advil 400 mg so youre taking a dose
    of one then the other every 3 hours (ie Tylenol at 9 am, Advil at
    noon, Tylenol at 3 Pm etc). If youre not supposed to take one or the
    other, of course just take the one you can take, but read the label
    and dont exceed the recommended max dose for 24 hrs.

    Drink A TON, hydrate hydrate hydrate. Rest lots. You should not be
    leaving your house except to go to the doctor (please CALL them
    FIRST), and if you do, wear a mask (regular is fine, you dont need an
    N95).

    You DO NOT NEED TO GO TO THE ER unless you are having trouble
    breathing or your fever is very high and unmanaged with meds. The
    vast, overwhelming majority of healthy adult cases thus far have been
    managed at home with basic rest/hydration/over-the-counter meds. We
    dont want to clog the ERs unless youre actually in distress. The
    hospital beds will be used for people who actively need
    oxygen/breathing treatments/IV fluids.

    If you have a pre-existing lung condition (COPD, emphysema, lung
    cancer) or are on immunosuppressants, now is a great time to talk to
    your PCP or specialist about what they would like you to do if you get
    sick. They might have plans to get you admitted and bypass the ER
    entirely.

    One major relief to you parents is that kids do VERY well with
    coronavirus they usually bounce back in a few days, NO ONE under 18
    has died, and almost no kids have required hospitalization (unless
    they have a lung disease like CF). Be sure to use kids formulations of
    OTC meds and dose appropriately for their age/weight, and ask the >pediatrician if you have any questions about medication safety for
    your childs age.

    I'm always around if you have questions, just shoot me a message any
    time. Just be calm and prepare rationally and everything will be just
    ducky. ??

    Edited to add: WHOAH, dude. Intended this for my healthy friends and
    family, and this went way further than anticipated. Of course NO
    advice is one size fits all, and this is just common sense stuff for
    your average Joe adult to try to be prepared and not overwhelm our
    hospitals with every case of the sniffles, but please use your head,
    consult your doctor or pharmacist, and for the love of god don't use
    me as the be-all-end-all resource here.


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    I read today that on the 4th the Chinese started testing a medicine
    for the coronavirus.

    "Remdesivir, a new antiviral drug by Gilead Sciences Inc. aimed at
    infectious diseases such Ebola and SARS, will be tested by a medical
    team from Beijing-based China-Japan Friendship Hospital for efficacy
    in treating the deadly new strain of coronavirus, a hospital
    spokeswoman told Bloomberg News Monday.
    --
    cheers,

    John B.

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  • From Frank Krygowski@21:1/5 to Joy Beeson on Tue Mar 17 22:22:28 2020
    On 3/16/2020 11:58 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:

    Shamelessly snitched from a post that was re-posted on Facebook.
    Attributions lost somewhere along the way.

    As an RN's daughter, an RN's sister, a First Responder, and the
    survivor of uncounted infections, I can vouch for this advice.

    I'm rashly assuming that you have the common sense to ignore the bits
    that do not apply. Note that the medications are not a shopping list,
    but a memory-jogger, to remind you of stuff that *you* need when
    you're down with a cold.

    I've always kept cough drops in the freezer on the grounds that when I
    need them, I don't feel like shopping.

    I'd suggest soaking in a hot tub instead of sitting next to a shower,
    but we had ours taken out. I need it only when I'm too sick to clean
    a tub -- and a seldom-used tub has to be cleaned *before* as well as
    after. Not worth the house room.

    A fond memory of dormitory life: When I felt poorly, I could go down
    the hall and soak in a tub that somebody else had to clean.

    Wringing a large washrag out of hot water and laying it over your face
    for a few minutes is also good.


    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    Begin quote: -----------------------------------------------------------------------

    Great advice

    [above line a comment on the re-post; quote proper begins here]

    ?Allison Langeland?
    to
    Coopersville Informed
    March 12 at 8:31 AM
    Danielle Weatherup
    March 11 at 10:05 AM

    So what I have seen a lot of is recommendations for how to try to
    avoid getting coronavirus in the first place -- good handwashing --
    but what I have NOT seen a lot of is advice for what happens if you
    actually get it, which many of us will. So as your friendly
    neighborhood RN, let me make some suggestions.

    You basically just want to prepare as though you know you’re going to
    get a nasty respiratory bug, like bronchitis or pneumonia. You just
    have the foresight to know it’s coming.

    Things you could consider buying ahead of time so you're not trying to
    go out when you actually have symptoms (not sure what the obsession
    with toilet paper is?): Kleenex, Acetaminophen (Tylenol) in 325 mg
    tablets, Ibuprofen (Advil) in 200 mg tablets, Mucinex, Robitussin or
    whatever your generic cough medicine of choice is (check the label and
    make sure you're not doubling up on acetaminophen - some brands like
    DayQuil have it included and you don't want that). You want a cough
    medicine with both a cough suppressant and expectorant. Vix vaporub
    for your chest is also a great suggestion. (Also I should think this
    would go without saying, but editing to add that of COURSE if you have
    a medical contraindication to any of these over the counter meds, you
    should not take them. If you are on blood thinners, for example, no
    Advil for you — if you are on blood pressure meds, you need to be
    careful about which cough medicine you take. Check with your doc or pharmacist if you’re even the slightest bit unsure and these aren’t
    meds you routinely take for a cough/cold)

    If you don’t have a humidifier, that would be a good thing to buy and
    run in your room when you go to bed overnight. (You can also just turn
    the shower on hot and sit in the bathroom breathing in the steam). If
    you have a history of asthma and you have a prescription inhaler, make
    sure the one you have isn’t expired and refill it/get a new one if it
    is.

    This is also a good time to meal prep: make a big batch of your
    favorite soup to freeze and have on hand. Whatever your favorite clear
    fluids are to drink (Sprite, juice, ICE waters, Fresca, whatever
    floats your boat), stock your pantry with those. Maybe get some nice
    soothing tea too!

    For a fever over 101 (again, assuming you are safe to take them), you
    can alternate Tylenol 650 mg and Advil 400 mg so you’re taking a dose
    of one then the other every 3 hours (ie Tylenol at 9 am, Advil at
    noon, Tylenol at 3 Pm etc). If you’re not supposed to take one or the other, of course just take the one you can take, but read the label
    and don’t exceed the recommended max dose for 24 hrs.

    Drink A TON, hydrate hydrate hydrate. Rest lots. You should not be
    leaving your house except to go to the doctor (please CALL them
    FIRST), and if you do, wear a mask (regular is fine, you don’t need an N95).

    You DO NOT NEED TO GO TO THE ER unless you are having trouble
    breathing or your fever is very high and unmanaged with meds. The
    vast, overwhelming majority of healthy adult cases thus far have been
    managed at home with basic rest/hydration/over-the-counter meds. We
    don’t want to clog the ERs unless you’re actually in distress. The hospital beds will be used for people who actively need
    oxygen/breathing treatments/IV fluids.

    If you have a pre-existing lung condition (COPD, emphysema, lung
    cancer) or are on immunosuppressants, now is a great time to talk to
    your PCP or specialist about what they would like you to do if you get
    sick. They might have plans to get you admitted and bypass the ER
    entirely.

    One major relief to you parents is that kids do VERY well with
    coronavirus— they usually bounce back in a few days, NO ONE under 18
    has died, and almost no kids have required hospitalization (unless
    they have a lung disease like CF). Be sure to use kids formulations of
    OTC meds and dose appropriately for their age/weight, and ask the pediatrician if you have any questions about medication safety for
    your child’s age.

    I'm always around if you have questions, just shoot me a message any
    time. Just be calm and prepare rationally and everything will be just
    ducky. ??

    Edited to add: WHOAH, dude. Intended this for my healthy friends and
    family, and this went way further than anticipated. Of course NO
    advice is one size fits all, and this is just common sense stuff for
    your average Joe adult to try to be prepared and not overwhelm our
    hospitals with every case of the sniffles, but please use your head,
    consult your doctor or pharmacist, and for the love of god don't use
    me as the be-all-end-all resource here.


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    Some are saying to avoid ibuprofen if you have COVID-19.

    https://www.bmj.com/content/368/bmj.m1086


    --
    - Frank Krygowski

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