• Riding with face mask in smoke and ash

    From Kenneth Litwak@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 11 20:19:44 2020
    Can I use a face mask for COVID-19 to filter out smoke and ash on a ride?
    1. If I go out on a ride would one of these protect my lungs from smoke and ash at all?
    2. Is it possible to breath enough through one while riding?

    I haven't been able to ride this week because there are fires all around me in Riverside County, California (Fontana/Jurupa Valley area) because he sky is orange with smoke and ash. I have face masks for COVID-19. They are not designed to keep smoke,
    ash or viruses out. In fact, scientifically, except for N-95 masks, a mask to protect others from me (the point of a mask during the pandemic if I am sick but don't know it). ( want to ride moderate to hard but mostly moderate. Since I have exercise-
    induced asthma, racing didn't work out very well. I can breath with one of my masks on while walking or sitting but I'm on my bike with a mask on. Any opinions? I really don'tr want to miss my chance for a longish Saturday ride on a day off work. Thanks.

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  • From Joy Beeson@21:1/5 to kennethdlitwak@gmail.com on Sat Sep 12 18:56:27 2020
    On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 20:19:44 -0700 (PDT), Kenneth Litwak <kennethdlitwak@gmail.com> wrote:

    Can I use a face mask for COVID-19 to filter out smoke and ash on a ride?

    1. If I go out on a ride would one of these protect my lungs from smoke and ash at all?
    2. Is it possible to breath enough through one while riding?

    I haven't been able to ride this week because there are fires all around me in Riverside County, California (Fontana/Jurupa Valley area) because he sky is orange with smoke and ash. I have face masks for COVID-19. They are not designed to keep smoke,
    ash or viruses out. In fact, scientifically, except for N-95 masks, a mask to protect others from me (the point of a mask during the pandemic if I am sick but don't know it). ( want to ride moderate to hard but mostly moderate. Since I have exercise-
    induced asthma, racing didn't work out very well. I can breath with one of my masks on while walking or sitting but I'm on my bike with a mask on. Any opinions? I really don'tr want to miss my chance for a longish Saturday ride on a day off work. Thanks.

    Disclaimer: I know nothing from nothing and this is all theoretical.

    Whether a mask will keep out smoke and whether you can breathe through
    it depend entirely on the mask.

    I pull my mask down when I mount the bike only because it makes my
    face hot; I can breathe through it just fine, and was thinking of
    wearing it in the winter until I realized that it would interfere with
    taking sips of water while I ride.

    One thing to look out for is that nearly all masks leak around the
    edges. This doesn't matter if it's a protect-others mask, because the
    escaping air stays close to you, but air that flows around the mask to
    get in is immediately inhaled.

    Smoke contains toxic gasses -- CO, for example -- and only a full-bore respirator will help with that.

    Since the mask isn't to keep out germs, you can keep using it until it
    gets clogged -- perhaps halfway through a ride, if the smoke is thick.
    Some masks can be washed and then used again, and some have replacable
    filters.

    I'm pretty sure you couldn't wear a Scott Pack while riding. (A
    fireman taught me to put my backpack on the way he put on his Scott
    Pack, and it *works*!)

    Some of the masks I've seen pictures of would very dangerously
    restrict your vision.

    The "duckbill" mask my hygenist wears looks as though it would filter
    ash. It can be pulled tight to prevent leaks, and there is a large
    volume inside it and a large area of filter to let the air in.

    Your hardware store is probably sold out of suitable dust masks.

    Whatever, I'd try a mask on a short and slow ride and work my way up.

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    joy beeson at centurylink dot net
    http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/

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  • From Kenneth Litwak@21:1/5 to Joy Beeson on Sat Sep 12 21:25:19 2020
    On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 3:56:31 PM UTC-7, Joy Beeson wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 20:19:44 -0700 (PDT), Kenneth Litwak
    <kennethwrote:

    Can I use a face mask for COVID-19 to filter out smoke and ash on a ride?

    1. If I go out on a ride would one of these protect my lungs from smoke and ash at all?
    2. Is it possible to breath enough through one while riding?

    I haven't been able to ride this week because there are fires all around me in Riverside County, California (Fontana/Jurupa Valley area) because he sky is orange with smoke and ash. I have face masks for COVID-19. They are not designed to keep smoke,
    ash or viruses out. In fact, scientifically, except for N-95 masks, a mask to protect others from me (the point of a mask during the pandemic if I am sick but don't know it). ( want to ride moderate to hard but mostly moderate. Since I have exercise-
    induced asthma, racing didn't work out very well. I can breath with one of my masks on while walking or sitting but I'm on my bike with a mask on. Any opinions? I really don'tr want to miss my chance for a longish Saturday ride on a day off work. Thanks.
    Disclaimer: I know nothing from nothing and this is all theoretical.

    Whether a mask will keep out smoke and whether you can breathe through
    it depend entirely on the mask.

    I pull my mask down when I mount the bike only because it makes my
    face hot; I can breathe through it just fine, and was thinking of
    wearing it in the winter until I realized that it would interfere with taking sips of water while I ride.

    One thing to look out for is that nearly all masks leak around the
    edges. This doesn't matter if it's a protect-others mask, because the escaping air stays close to you, but air that flows around the mask to
    get in is immediately inhaled.

    Smoke contains toxic gasses -- CO, for example -- and only a full-bore respirator will help with that.

    Since the mask isn't to keep out germs, you can keep using it until it
    gets clogged -- perhaps halfway through a ride, if the smoke is thick.
    Some masks can be washed and then used again, and some have replacable filters.

    I'm pretty sure you couldn't wear a Scott Pack while riding. (A
    fireman taught me to put my backpack on the way he put on his Scott
    Pack, and it *works*!)

    Some of the masks I've seen pictures of would very dangerously
    restrict your vision.

    The "duckbill" mask my hygenist wears looks as though it would filter
    ash. It can be pulled tight to prevent leaks, and there is a large
    volume inside it and a large area of filter to let the air in.

    Your hardware store is probably sold out of suitable dust masks.

    Whatever, I'd try a mask on a short and slow ride and work my way up.

    --
    Joy Beeson
    joy beeson at centurylink dot net
    http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/

    Thanks, Joy, for your response and suggestions.

    Ken

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