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    From 2G@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 27 08:10:38 2023
    This fire occurred in a police parking lot in Dearborn, MI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUEA9hEIRiA
    The problem was traced to a manufacturing problem of the battery cells.

    Welcome to the brave, new world of electrification.

    Tom 2G

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  • From kinsell@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 28 10:16:32 2023
    It was actually in a holding lot at a Ford factory. CNBC used a FOIA
    request to get the video:

    https://www.cnbc.com/video/2023/04/20/newly-video-shows-fire-involving-ford-f-150-lightning-electric-pickup.html

    In particular, it was traced to anodes and cathodes shorting together
    due to cells swelling slightly during charging.

    Lithium batteries have been in use for about 30 years now, you'd think
    they'd learn not to short those anodes and cathodes. Never ends well.


    On 4/27/23 9:10 AM, 2G wrote:
    This fire occurred in a police parking lot in Dearborn, MI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUEA9hEIRiA
    The problem was traced to a manufacturing problem of the battery cells.

    Welcome to the brave, new world of electrification.

    Tom 2G

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  • From Andy Blackburn@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 28 19:07:15 2023
    So sorry for the loss of your motorglider.

    People need to be careful about how they store their motorglider batteries - they pack a lot of energy. This isn't the first instance of a problem.

    Andy Blackburn
    9B

    On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 8:10:40 AM UTC-7, 2G wrote:
    This fire occurred in a police parking lot in Dearborn, MI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUEA9hEIRiA
    The problem was traced to a manufacturing problem of the battery cells.

    Welcome to the brave, new world of electrification.

    Tom 2G

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  • From 2G@21:1/5 to Andy Blackburn on Fri Apr 28 21:13:03 2023
    On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 7:07:17 PM UTC-7, Andy Blackburn wrote:
    So sorry for the loss of your motorglider.

    People need to be careful about how they store their motorglider batteries - they pack a lot of energy. This isn't the first instance of a problem.

    Andy Blackburn
    9B
    On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 8:10:40 AM UTC-7, 2G wrote:
    This fire occurred in a police parking lot in Dearborn, MI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUEA9hEIRiA
    The problem was traced to a manufacturing problem of the battery cells.

    Welcome to the brave, new world of electrification.

    Tom 2G

    Hey Andy, have you had too much wine for dinner? Hope you kick your habit.

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  • From jfitch@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 29 18:51:52 2023
    On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 9:13:05 PM UTC-7, 2G wrote:
    On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 7:07:17 PM UTC-7, Andy Blackburn wrote:
    So sorry for the loss of your motorglider.

    People need to be careful about how they store their motorglider batteries - they pack a lot of energy. This isn't the first instance of a problem.

    Andy Blackburn
    9B
    On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 8:10:40 AM UTC-7, 2G wrote:
    This fire occurred in a police parking lot in Dearborn, MI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUEA9hEIRiA
    The problem was traced to a manufacturing problem of the battery cells.

    Welcome to the brave, new world of electrification.

    Tom 2G
    Hey Andy, have you had too much wine for dinner? Hope you kick your habit.
    I guess some don't know that the Ford F150 motorglider is prone to self immolation.

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  • From Charlie M. (UH, Pi & 002 owner/pilo@21:1/5 to jfitch on Sat Apr 29 19:49:34 2023
    On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 9:51:54 PM UTC-4, jfitch wrote:
    On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 9:13:05 PM UTC-7, 2G wrote:
    On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 7:07:17 PM UTC-7, Andy Blackburn wrote:
    So sorry for the loss of your motorglider.

    People need to be careful about how they store their motorglider batteries - they pack a lot of energy. This isn't the first instance of a problem.

    Andy Blackburn
    9B
    On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 8:10:40 AM UTC-7, 2G wrote:
    This fire occurred in a police parking lot in Dearborn, MI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUEA9hEIRiA
    The problem was traced to a manufacturing problem of the battery cells.

    Welcome to the brave, new world of electrification.

    Tom 2G
    Hey Andy, have you had too much wine for dinner? Hope you kick your habit.
    I guess some don't know that the Ford F150 motorglider is prone to self immolation.

    I'm guessing, since it's battery powered, "Ford" stands for, "Fire on rainy days"?

    ;-)

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  • From bumper@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 29 23:58:00 2023
    The Ford electric motorglider is cleverly engineered with built-in dual functionality, It has the ability to harness lift in thermals, or if parked on the ramp, can function as a handy thermal generator for other gliders (just once).

    bumper

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  • From youngblood8116@gmail.com@21:1/5 to bumper on Sun Apr 30 04:56:00 2023
    On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 2:58:02 AM UTC-4, bumper wrote:
    The Ford electric motorglider is cleverly engineered with built-in dual functionality, It has the ability to harness lift in thermals, or if parked on the ramp, can function as a handy thermal generator for other gliders (just once).

    bumper

    Another great benefit of the motorglider, used as a cigar lighter, then you can drive home in your Tesla. OBTP

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  • From jfitch@21:1/5 to bumper on Sun Apr 30 07:37:57 2023
    On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:58:02 PM UTC-7, bumper wrote:
    The Ford electric motorglider is cleverly engineered with built-in dual functionality, It has the ability to harness lift in thermals, or if parked on the ramp, can function as a handy thermal generator for other gliders (just once).

    bumper
    As the saying goes, "Build a man a fire, you will keep him warm for one night. Set a man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life."

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  • From Dan Marotta@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 30 12:27:32 2023
    Hey! my current ford has been running without burning up for the past
    12 years. Oh, wait... It burns fossil fuels directly rather than that
    which was burned to charge batteries.

    Dan
    5J

    On 4/29/23 20:49, Charlie M. (UH, Pi & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
    On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 9:51:54 PM UTC-4, jfitch wrote:
    On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 9:13:05 PM UTC-7, 2G wrote:
    On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 7:07:17 PM UTC-7, Andy Blackburn wrote:
    So sorry for the loss of your motorglider.

    People need to be careful about how they store their motorglider batteries - they pack a lot of energy. This isn't the first instance of a problem.

    Andy Blackburn
    9B
    On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 8:10:40 AM UTC-7, 2G wrote:
    This fire occurred in a police parking lot in Dearborn, MI:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUEA9hEIRiA
    The problem was traced to a manufacturing problem of the battery cells. >>>>>
    Welcome to the brave, new world of electrification.

    Tom 2G
    Hey Andy, have you had too much wine for dinner? Hope you kick your habit. >> I guess some don't know that the Ford F150 motorglider is prone to self immolation.

    I'm guessing, since it's battery powered, "Ford" stands for, "Fire on rainy days"?

    ;-)

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