Hey, guys! I've been thinking about this idea and I'm wondering if it's worth pursuing. So, our gliders have this reclined position where our legs, feet, and the instrument panel are smack in the middle of our field of view. But what if we had a gliderwith a more upright sitting position and a glass cockpit that would let us see well below us as we fly over amazing sights like mountain tops, ridges, clouds, and even wildlife? Some powered aircraft, like the Edgley Optica and the Seabird Seeker, have
If your club had a glider with this cockpit with amazing views and an open class wingspan for keeping a decent performance, would you be interested in flying it? Do you think you would enjoy flying it more than a conventional high-performance glider?
Thanks, looking forward to hearing your opinions.
On Wednesday, 22 March 2023 at 16:39:57 UTC, Gonzalo Garcia-Atance wrote:glider with a more upright sitting position and a glass cockpit that would let us see well below us as we fly over amazing sights like mountain tops, ridges, clouds, and even wildlife? Some powered aircraft, like the Edgley Optica and the Seabird Seeker,
Hey, guys! I've been thinking about this idea and I'm wondering if it's worth pursuing. So, our gliders have this reclined position where our legs, feet, and the instrument panel are smack in the middle of our field of view. But what if we had a
I do not see why it should not be even more save than a conventional reclined pilot position, as you can put more distance between your vertebrae and the exterior of the fuselage.If your club had a glider with this cockpit with amazing views and an open class wingspan for keeping a decent performance, would you be interested in flying it? Do you think you would enjoy flying it more than a conventional high-performance glider?No thanks. I prefer a cockpit with crash protection up to CS-22 standard.
Thanks, looking forward to hearing your opinions.
I do not see why it should not be even more save than a conventional reclined pilot position, as you can put more distance between your vertebrae and the exterior of the fuselage.some if not all crash forces. Sitting inside a clear eggshell isn't what I want to deal with if I am in a situation where I might get smacked with a planet. Distance from the exterior of the aircraft to the vertebra is immaterial. Plenty of other body
Because Plexiglass has no structural integrity. It will shatter on impact, leaving many sharp fragments to interfere with your skin's ability to keep the blood on the inside of your little pink body. Carbon Fiber, Kevlar and even fiberglass can absorb
Coming from hang gliding like many of us, I sure miss the view below. Maybe that’s why I am circling too much. would love to have better visibility if it could be achieved without compromising safety much.absorb some if not all crash forces. Sitting inside a clear eggshell isn't what I want to deal with if I am in a situation where I might get smacked with a planet. Distance from the exterior of the aircraft to the vertebra is immaterial. Plenty of other
I wouldn’t mind compromising a point or two on glide. DGs have better visibility than most other gliders.
Ramy
On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 4:36:06 PM UTC-7, Gonzalo Garcia-Atance wrote:
El miércoles, 22 de marzo de 2023 a las 23:26:11 UTC, Mark Mocho escribió:
I do not see why it should not be even more save than a conventional reclined pilot position, as you can put more distance between your vertebrae and the exterior of the fuselage.
Because Plexiglass has no structural integrity. It will shatter on impact, leaving many sharp fragments to interfere with your skin's ability to keep the blood on the inside of your little pink body. Carbon Fiber, Kevlar and even fiberglass can
.Thats an interesting point I was not considering... thanks very much. I supouse the Plexiglas can be supported by a frame all around the edge. But anyway I will have a look into this. I have been thinking about this glider for more than a decade now..
El miércoles, 22 de marzo de 2023 a las 23:26:11 UTC, Mark Mocho escribió:absorb some if not all crash forces. Sitting inside a clear eggshell isn't what I want to deal with if I am in a situation where I might get smacked with a planet. Distance from the exterior of the aircraft to the vertebra is immaterial. Plenty of other
I do not see why it should not be even more save than a conventional reclined pilot position, as you can put more distance between your vertebrae and the exterior of the fuselage.
Because Plexiglass has no structural integrity. It will shatter on impact, leaving many sharp fragments to interfere with your skin's ability to keep the blood on the inside of your little pink body. Carbon Fiber, Kevlar and even fiberglass can
Thats an interesting point I was not considering... thanks very much. I supouse the Plexiglas can be supported by a frame all around the edge. But anyway I will have a look into this. I have been thinking about this glider for more than a decade now...
Coming from hang gliding like many of us, I sure miss the view below. Maybe that’s why I am circling too much. would love to have better visibility if it could be achieved without compromising safety much.About 15 years ago, I experimented with a camera mounted on the bottom of fuselage, approximately underneath my knees, pointed down and forward at about 45 degrees. The display on the panel. It was somewhat useful, and now cameras and displays are so
I wouldn’t mind compromising a point or two on glide. DGs have better visibility than most other gliders.
Ramy
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 5:30:13 PM UTC-7, Ramy wrote:much better, it'd be worth trying again.
Coming from hang gliding like many of us, I sure miss the view below. Maybe that’s why I am circling too much. would love to have better visibility if it could be achieved without compromising safety much.
I wouldn’t mind compromising a point or two on glide. DGs have better visibility than most other gliders.
RamyAbout 15 years ago, I experimented with a camera mounted on the bottom of fuselage, approximately underneath my knees, pointed down and forward at about 45 degrees. The display on the panel. It was somewhat useful, and now cameras and displays are so
Tweak a Condor glider to have more plex, and fly around with it. See if you like it. I use a head tracker, and sometimes find myself sticking my head "through" the canopy to look below me for traffic, etc.
Tweak a Condor glider ... etc
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The GAPA has pretty good visibilityI flew one many years ago. It has so much visibility, it is not possible to make the seat belt tight enough to banish the feeling you are about to slide sideways off the seat to your certain death. But, I liked it after a while.
Nick
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Hi Gonzalo,
You may find this interesting. It is a prototype/concept made by Glasflügel. I don't know if it actually flew. I posted a page from the book Glasflugel on my Soaring News Facebook page. You can see it using the link below.
https://www.facebook.com/CumulusSoaring/posts/pfbid0hAnrF9GEx3Bk5LUiHCqgUnUUE8tNvskz5Np8hWx7jMvrYxERaDuNkuTP8Wuf6pP7l
From the book Glasflügel https://www.cumulus-soaring.com/store/glasflugel-book
Best Regards,
Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
Condor has a couple options for the view you seek.And one more,
1) The SG-38 primary glider available here (https://www.cumulus-soaring.com/store/condor2-sg38) for $13
2) Cntl + F1 toggles the cockpit view, including completely eliminating it, in any Condor glider - the ultimate birds-eye view from high performance gliders, allows you to sit up-right, and is perfectly safe.
Hey, guys! I've been thinking about this idea and I'm wondering if it's worth pursuing. So, our gliders have this reclined position where our legs, feet, and the instrument panel are smack in the middle of our field of view. But what if we had a gliderwith a more upright sitting position and a glass cockpit that would let us see well below us as we fly over amazing sights like mountain tops, ridges, clouds, and even wildlife? Some powered aircraft, like the Edgley Optica and the Seabird Seeker, have
If your club had a glider with this cockpit with amazing views and an open class wingspan for keeping a decent performance, would you be interested in flying it? Do you think you would enjoy flying it more than a conventional high-performance glider?
Thanks, looking forward to hearing your opinions.
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