• How I started in soaring ...

    From Glider Pilot@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 5 05:27:44 2023
    Ever wondered what makes a soaring pilot?

    For me it started when I was kid around 11-years old building balsa wood RC gliders. I was thinking it would be cool to return to my roots and build a retro kit today more than four decades later. He is my short video:

    https://youtu.be/0rCN3jGQvyM

    Oscar

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  • From John Sinclair@21:1/5 to Glider Pilot on Sun Feb 5 13:42:11 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 5:27:46 AM UTC-8, Glider Pilot wrote:
    Ever wondered what makes a soaring pilot?

    For me it started when I was kid around 11-years old building balsa wood RC gliders. I was thinking it would be cool to return to my roots and build a retro kit today more than four decades later. He is my short video:

    https://youtu.be/0rCN3jGQvyM

    Oscar




    I got hooked on Soaring in 1951. I had enlisted in the USAF, but my report date was about 10 days off! With nothing much to do, I found myself driving north from San Diego along the coast highway. I took a dirt side road to the edge of a 1000 foot cliff.
    Sitting on the edge of the cliff wondering what being a GI was going to be like, suddenly an open cockpit glider flew by! Shortly, he returned from the other direction, this time he was waving at me! He made numerous passes waving and shouting! After a
    while, he landed on the beach below me and shortly, a Piper Cub landed, hooked him up and took off towing the glider. That event was seared into my memory. I must have been close to Torrey Pines and the pod and boom glider was a Baby Bowlus!
    I took my first glider ride at Black Forest Gliderport, Co. and ordered a Duster sailplane kit shortly afterwards!
    I was hooked,
    JJ

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  • From Hank Nixon@21:1/5 to Glider Pilot on Sun Feb 5 16:33:58 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 8:27:46 AM UTC-5, Glider Pilot wrote:
    Ever wondered what makes a soaring pilot?

    For me it started when I was kid around 11-years old building balsa wood RC gliders. I was thinking it would be cool to return to my roots and build a retro kit today more than four decades later. He is my short video:

    https://youtu.be/0rCN3jGQvyM

    Oscar
    I saw my first glider contest at Harris Hill in 1955. I flew a model glider in the kids contest that was part of the nationals. I wanted to be a glider pilot from then on while building models and learning about aviation, especially soaring. My mom
    bought me a membership in SSA when I was 11. Now a 62 year life member. After college I started gliding lessons before I bought my first car.
    UH

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  • From R@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 6 10:06:15 2023
    50 year anniversary this month for me. Life membership a year later. Installment plan…4 easy payments …$50.
    Soloed in a 2-22 with a pellet variometer. After 5 lessons in a Cub they made me chief tow pilot (nobody wanted to tow).
    A classmate offered to take me for a ride in a 2-33 on a perfect day. It was all I needed. His daddy bought him a Diamant. At the time a most spectacular glider.

    R

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  • From Herbert Kilian@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 6 11:14:34 2023
    On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 12:06:17 PM UTC-6, R wrote:
    50 year anniversary this month for me. Life membership a year later. Installment plan…4 easy payments …$50.
    Soloed in a 2-22 with a pellet variometer. After 5 lessons in a Cub they made me chief tow pilot (nobody wanted to tow).
    A classmate offered to take me for a ride in a 2-33 on a perfect day. It was all I needed. His daddy bought him a Diamant. At the time a most spectacular glider.

    R
    Tough to compete with UH and others on this topic.
    Turning 30 in 1980 and having a family with 2 small boys, I requested the OK of my wonderful wife to join a club near Hamelin Germany (Pied Piper Town). I had built RC models of all kinds and always wanted to be the pilot up there looking down rather
    that standing with a transmitter on the ground. Soloed on the winch in Oerlinghausen at flight No. 28 and over a year was cleared to fly all 10 club gliders, up to the Speed Astir. Now at 4,000 h, at glider #5, I still love the sport and the gliding
    family.
    Be kind to each other, even to those flying motorgliders.

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  • From Darren Braun@21:1/5 to Glider Pilot on Mon Feb 6 11:32:31 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 5:27:46 AM UTC-8, Glider Pilot wrote:
    Ever wondered what makes a soaring pilot?

    For me it started when I was kid around 11-years old building balsa wood RC gliders. I was thinking it would be cool to return to my roots and build a retro kit today more than four decades later. He is my short video:

    https://youtu.be/0rCN3jGQvyM

    Oscar

    Nice slope, where is that?

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  • From miltonpilot JLH@21:1/5 to Darren Braun on Mon Feb 6 13:40:05 2023
    On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 11:32:32 AM UTC-8, Darren Braun wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 5:27:46 AM UTC-8, Glider Pilot wrote:
    Ever wondered what makes a soaring pilot?

    For me it started when I was kid around 11-years old building balsa wood RC gliders. I was thinking it would be cool to return to my roots and build a retro kit today more than four decades later. He is my short video:

    https://youtu.be/0rCN3jGQvyM

    Oscar
    Nice slope, where is that?

    I built and flew control line, free flight and R/C models in the late 50's to mid 60's. Soloed in a 2-22 (with a pellet vario) at Bermuda High Soaring School in 1969. I was a flight instructor, ride pilot and tow pilot at BHSS. Gren Seibels let me fly
    his 301 Libelle one day in 1975 and I was hooked forever. Now living in Reno, flying glider #4 out of Air Sailing. JLH/H4

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  • From youngblood8116@gmail.com@21:1/5 to youngbl...@gmail.com on Mon Feb 6 14:56:15 2023
    On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 5:30:51 PM UTC-5, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 1:06:17 PM UTC-5, R wrote:
    50 year anniversary this month for me. Life membership a year later. Installment plan…4 easy payments …$50.
    Soloed in a 2-22 with a pellet variometer. After 5 lessons in a Cub they made me chief tow pilot (nobody wanted to tow).
    A classmate offered to take me for a ride in a 2-33 on a perfect day. It was all I needed. His daddy bought him a Diamant. At the time a most spectacular glider.

    R
    Ok R. you're just a youngster! Bill Harris was probably your instructor, and Maggie was making hot dogs in the crockpot at Kendall Gliderport.
    Let me throw a name out there and see how many people remember Paul Crowell, AKA Pablo and Fritz Sebek. Now I know Burt knows them both, so we will not count his vote. Fritz gave me my first glider ride and from that day on I was a hooked glider guy.
    Scotty Bingham and I had Std Cirrus's and flew almost every day. Eileen was part of the sky diving group at the gliderport and later began flying gliders out at Kendall Gliderport.
    Henry, most people would not believe how much fun we had back in the good days in Miami. OBTP
    And I forgot to add. we did not have motorgliders!

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  • From youngblood8116@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 6 14:30:49 2023
    On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 1:06:17 PM UTC-5, R wrote:
    50 year anniversary this month for me. Life membership a year later. Installment plan…4 easy payments …$50.
    Soloed in a 2-22 with a pellet variometer. After 5 lessons in a Cub they made me chief tow pilot (nobody wanted to tow).
    A classmate offered to take me for a ride in a 2-33 on a perfect day. It was all I needed. His daddy bought him a Diamant. At the time a most spectacular glider.

    R
    Ok R. you're just a youngster! Bill Harris was probably your instructor, and Maggie was making hot dogs in the crockpot at Kendall Gliderport.
    Let me throw a name out there and see how many people remember Paul Crowell, AKA Pablo and Fritz Sebek. Now I know Burt knows them both, so we will not count his vote. Fritz gave me my first glider ride and from that day on I was a hooked glider guy.
    Scotty Bingham and I had Std Cirrus's and flew almost every day. Eileen was part of the sky diving group at the gliderport and later began flying gliders out at Kendall Gliderport.
    Henry, most people would not believe how much fun we had back in the good days in Miami. OBTP

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  • From Dan Marotta@21:1/5 to youngbl...@gmail.com on Mon Feb 6 17:13:25 2023
    Returning from a business trip in Australia, my brother invited me to
    spend some time with him in Hawaii to fly a glider. I asked what good
    is an airplane without an engine but, loving to fly, I accepted the
    invitation.

    We went to Dillingham where I met Elmer Udd and, after a conversation
    about my flight experience, he let me fly the brand new Grob-103 from
    brake release to final roll out! Next day, I returned and on my 5th
    flight, soloed in a 2-33. Returning to Texas, I joined TSA and the SSA
    and went right to a Commercial add-on.

    I got my winch training on a subsequent trip to Australia and began a
    journey of ever increasing performance. I started my Silver Badge and
    won first place in the TSA Labor Dan lap races, Sports Class, in my
    first glider, a Glasflugel Mosquito and finished in my second, an ASW-19b.

    I completed my Gold Badge in the -19b and then completed my Diamond
    Badge in my third glider, an LS-6a, a wonderful ship! I flew two
    contests in the LS-6 finishing in the middle of the pack in one and dead
    last in the other. Since then, I've just flown for fun in a second
    LS-6, a borrowed Mosquito, a LAK-17a, and finally, in my Stemme.

    I haven't stopped flying powered aircraft, either, and just passed my
    50th anniversary of my first solo as a USAF student pilot.

    Dan
    5J

    On 2/6/23 15:56, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 5:30:51 PM UTC-5, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 1:06:17 PM UTC-5, R wrote:
    50 year anniversary this month for me. Life membership a year later. Installment plan…4 easy payments …$50.
    Soloed in a 2-22 with a pellet variometer. After 5 lessons in a Cub they made me chief tow pilot (nobody wanted to tow).
    A classmate offered to take me for a ride in a 2-33 on a perfect day. It was all I needed. His daddy bought him a Diamant. At the time a most spectacular glider.

    R
    Ok R. you're just a youngster! Bill Harris was probably your instructor, and Maggie was making hot dogs in the crockpot at Kendall Gliderport.
    Let me throw a name out there and see how many people remember Paul Crowell, AKA Pablo and Fritz Sebek. Now I know Burt knows them both, so we will not count his vote. Fritz gave me my first glider ride and from that day on I was a hooked glider guy.
    Scotty Bingham and I had Std Cirrus's and flew almost every day. Eileen was part of the sky diving group at the gliderport and later began flying gliders out at Kendall Gliderport.
    Henry, most people would not believe how much fun we had back in the good days in Miami. OBTP
    And I forgot to add. we did not have motorgliders!

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  • From Papa3@21:1/5 to Glider Pilot on Mon Feb 6 15:38:01 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 8:27:46 AM UTC-5, Glider Pilot wrote:
    Ever wondered what makes a soaring pilot?

    For me it started when I was kid around 11-years old building balsa wood RC gliders. I was thinking it would be cool to return to my roots and build a retro kit today more than four decades later. He is my short video:

    https://youtu.be/0rCN3jGQvyM

    Oscar

    Coming up on 40 years for me. I was a kid visiting my mom's family in Germany when my cousins took me along to the gliderport east of Hamburg. Having built static and flying models since I was about 5, this took things to a whole other level. A
    winch launch with the K-13 was incredible. My flying waited a few years 'til freshman year of college. Walking back from some orientation I cut through a courtyard, and sitting there was a 1-34 being displayed by the college glider club. First
    flight the next day, and pretty much been going non-stop since late 1984.

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  • From Bill Tisdale@21:1/5 to Dan Marotta on Tue Feb 7 05:47:33 2023
    On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 7:13:29 PM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
    Returning from a business trip in Australia, my brother invited me to
    spend some time with him in Hawaii to fly a glider. I asked what good
    is an airplane without an engine but, loving to fly, I accepted the invitation.

    We went to Dillingham where I met Elmer Udd and, after a conversation
    about my flight experience, he let me fly the brand new Grob-103 from
    brake release to final roll out! Next day, I returned and on my 5th
    flight, soloed in a 2-33. Returning to Texas, I joined TSA and the SSA
    and went right to a Commercial add-on.

    I got my winch training on a subsequent trip to Australia and began a journey of ever increasing performance. I started my Silver Badge and
    won first place in the TSA Labor Dan lap races, Sports Class, in my
    first glider, a Glasflugel Mosquito and finished in my second, an ASW-19b.

    I completed my Gold Badge in the -19b and then completed my Diamond
    Badge in my third glider, an LS-6a, a wonderful ship! I flew two
    contests in the LS-6 finishing in the middle of the pack in one and dead last in the other. Since then, I've just flown for fun in a second
    LS-6, a borrowed Mosquito, a LAK-17a, and finally, in my Stemme.

    I haven't stopped flying powered aircraft, either, and just passed my
    50th anniversary of my first solo as a USAF student pilot.

    Dan
    5J
    On 2/6/23 15:56, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 5:30:51 PM UTC-5, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 1:06:17 PM UTC-5, R wrote:
    50 year anniversary this month for me. Life membership a year later. Installment plan…4 easy payments …$50.
    Soloed in a 2-22 with a pellet variometer. After 5 lessons in a Cub they made me chief tow pilot (nobody wanted to tow).
    A classmate offered to take me for a ride in a 2-33 on a perfect day. It was all I needed. His daddy bought him a Diamant. At the time a most spectacular glider.

    R
    Ok R. you're just a youngster! Bill Harris was probably your instructor, and Maggie was making hot dogs in the crockpot at Kendall Gliderport.
    Let me throw a name out there and see how many people remember Paul Crowell, AKA Pablo and Fritz Sebek. Now I know Burt knows them both, so we will not count his vote. Fritz gave me my first glider ride and from that day on I was a hooked glider guy.
    Scotty Bingham and I had Std Cirrus's and flew almost every day. Eileen was part of the sky diving group at the gliderport and later began flying gliders out at Kendall Gliderport.
    Henry, most people would not believe how much fun we had back in the good days in Miami. OBTP
    And I forgot to add. we did not have motorgliders!

    I started flying airplanes as a Freshman in college, 1974. I got my first 2-33 "tourist ride" in Franconia NH in 1975. Life, work and many moves around the country put me in Las Vegas. Standing in the registration line for a CES convention I met a glider
    pilot that invited me to the local club. Solo'd an L-13 in 3 flights and within 5 months completed my glider add-on in 1998. Spent 22yrs with that club in various management roles, obtained my CFI-G and performed tow pilot duties. Now I am retired and
    back "home" in New England with another well established club. I am also flying back at Franconia during our club's annual safari.

    Bill
    SGS 1-35C, 83H

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  • From R@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 7 12:36:14 2023
    Hard to believe the Blanik first flight was in 1956. Ahead of its time. The all metal Schweizer 2-32 would first fly in 1962 and go on to win a Open Class Championship.

    R

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  • From J6 aka Airport Bum@21:1/5 to Glider Pilot on Tue Feb 7 12:17:00 2023
    Very cool video, Oscar! Here's my story:

    So, it was 1966, a hot lazy summer day north of Canton, Ohio, and my 11-year-old self was laying in the grass on big hill in the cow pasture behind our house. Daydreaming and admiring the puffy clouds, you know. Suddenly I noticed a red and white long-
    winged aircraft, circling overhead. Interesting, no engine, a glider! Then it got smaller and smaller, obviously gaining altitude.... Mind blown. How could this be? That evening, I excitedly told my dad about this (he soloed a Cub in the 30's, never
    got his license though). He explained updrafts to me. Wow. He called a few friends, and found out that there was a glider club operating at nearby Martin Field, must be from there.

    The next day I got permission to ride my bike to Martin Field, 3 miles or so, furthest from home I'd ever ridden at that time. Yep, gliders were flying there. The club was "Freedom's Soaring Thunderbirds", now called "Soaring Thunderbirds" and
    currently operating out of Wadsworth Airport, west of Akron. The red and white glider was a K-8. I stayed all day watching, so long that I got in trouble because I got home so late.

    The next weekend my dad took me over there, and they put me in the front seat of a Blanik (along with a load of lead) and I took a ride. Mind blown again.....

    I immediately shifted my interest from slot cars to model airplanes, specifically RC gliders. Built a bunch of 'em. I read every single book on aviation that I could find in the Canton Public Library. I remember one in particular was about gliding
    activity between WW I and WW II, complete with pictures, wish I could remember the name of the book. I would occasionally see a glider in the air, and would ride my bike over to Martin Field to watch them flying.

    One weekend a year or so after my first sighting there was a WHOLE BUNCH of gliders flying - a contest! Amazing variety of gliders, but I was attracted to one in particular, it had a V tail and a beautiful streamlined nose, an SHK or SH-1. I remember
    asking the pilot how it could be controlled with such a strange tail, and he showed and explained to me the mixing function, I was amazed. I am sure that his patient time with me was a seed of my fascination with the stability and control of aircraft,
    which led to my wonderful 35 year career as an aeronautical engineer.

    Haha, 12 or so years after meeting this guy, my first sailplane was - an SHK!

    Anyway, the club moved to a different airport before I was old enough to start training, sigh. But I flew my RC gliders, never got that good at it but had lots of fun, even did some thermal soaring occasionally! And we vacationed on the Outer Banks of
    NC, and I slope soared my RC gliders on Jockey's Ridge there. There I saw hang gliders (1972 or so, don't fly higher than you are willing to fall!) and caught the bug. I ordered a kit from Sky Sports, a LARK (Low Aspect Ratio Kite), a standard Rogallo
    wing, and taught myself to fly it.

    As a freshman at Purdue University's School of Aeronautical Engineering, I found out that a club called the Lafayette Soaring Society was operating east of the campus, I checked it out, they trained in a 2-22, and I joined up. Only took a few flights
    though before I realized that schoolwork and girls (or, at least the efforts trying to meet them...) would not allow me the time (nor did I have the money) to learn to fly sailplanes just then. My instructor for those few flights was an Aerodynamics
    Grad Student named Dan Somers, many of you know him now.

    I reverted back to hang gliding through my college years. Numerous weekend trips to Indian Dunes, Michigan, when I could take time off from schoolwork. Some good flying, maybe more so some good partying on the beach, haha.

    When I graduated in 1977, I got a job at Boeing in Seattle, and finally had the money to learn to fly sailplanes. Joined the Boeing Employee's Soaring Club, and got some GREAT training. British style operation, the core of club was a group of British
    ex-pat aero engineers/glider pilots who came over in the '60's when the British aeronautic industry had some major cutbacks and Boeing was full bore designing the 727 and 737 etc. Passed my check ride 7 months after starting. Gained notoriety in the
    club a year later by attempting a 300k FAI triangle in the club's ratty old 1-26 "Thunder Chicken". This flight ended in my first landout, in a fallow wheat field halfway along the second leg, because of - extreme airsickness! I was high and on
    schedule, the clouds ahead looked great, but I just couldn't handle the dry heaves anymore.... I'll save this landout story for another time, or you can ask me about it, it's a good one! I defeated airsickness finally a few years later, I really had to
    force myself sometimes to stick with it....

    Gave up the hang gliding around 1981, to concentrate on sailplane flying. To this day, I miss the hang gliding, wish I had had the time and energy to do both.

    Over the 46 years since I started, I have had to take a few long breaks from the sport, for career reasons, but I always came back. So I'm only around 2000 hours, but they have all been interesting.... I got all my Diamonds south of the Mason-Dixon and
    east of the Mississippi. My 500k was an FAI triangle out of Peach State Gliderport, there were a half dozen of us flying it that day (separately, not together as a gaggle), the first time any 500k triangles were ever flown in Georgia I believe. Wave
    flight over Mount Mitchell NC for my Diamond climb, took 4 years of trying for me to get that one.... At least 2 dozen off-airport landings (one was in my Mustang II homebuilt airplane, sure glad I had the glider experience, which made this one a whole
    lot less stressful). I realized that my wife was the one for me when she arrived to retrieve me out of a cow pasture - with a big smile on her face, viewing it all as a great adventure! My first contest, Cordele in 1983, I landed out every single day,
    haha (I wasn't the only one!). A fair amount of towing in our club's Pawnee, starting to pay back for the many tows that I have gratefully received. Nowadays I fly a few contests every year, but primarily I fly western mountain expeditions, out of
    remote airfields with my self-launcher, the call of the mountains is very strong for me these days.

    Thanks for this opportunity to share how I got into soaring.

    Cheers,
    Jim J6

    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 7:27:46 AM UTC-6, Glider Pilot wrote:
    Ever wondered what makes a soaring pilot?

    For me it started when I was kid around 11-years old building balsa wood RC gliders. I was thinking it would be cool to return to my roots and build a retro kit today more than four decades later. He is my short video:

    https://youtu.be/0rCN3jGQvyM

    Oscar

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  • From mropitz1@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 7 13:40:09 2023
    Well, I was born into a soaring family, so my first ride was probably sometime in 1950 when my mother was pregnant with me. My father hung a very nice
    wooden model DFS Kranich over my crib. (Unfortunately, I destroyed that model by playing with it when I was very young, but I remember it well.) I grew up on
    glider fields, flying models until I could start taking actual lessons when I was 13
    to solo at 14, and I haven't stopped since. My father started and ended his flying
    in gliders with a lot of other stuff in between, and that's how it looks like it will be
    for me as well.

    Mike Opitz
    RO

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  • From David Martin@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 7 13:57:27 2023
    In 1970, as a newly minted and married 2nd Lt USAF civil engineering, I was sent to the eastern front, RAF Upper Heyford. Our off base housing was in Stratton Audley which just happened to be right next to the RAF gliding center of Bicester. As I
    walked out the first morning after arriving, I saw ships being winched into the air and thought "That looks interesting!!" As a member of a NATO force I could join the RAF gliding center where flight costs were literally pennies. 60 or so flights in
    the T-21 off the winch with each one being 3, 4 or maybe 5 minutes I got to go solo. Once solo you could upgrade to aero tow and got to fly many different ships, OLY 2b, Oly 419, Gruno Baby, Slingsby Dart and finally the Libelle. Left the UK with 300
    hrs a silver badge and have been at it ever since. Still married to the same wonderful wife who puts up with my addiction.

    David Martin
    BV

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  • From Dan Marotta@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 7 15:02:41 2023
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  • From R@21:1/5 to David Martin on Tue Feb 7 14:26:22 2023
    On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 4:57:29 PM UTC-5, David Martin wrote:
    In 1970, as a newly minted and married 2nd Lt USAF civil engineering, I was sent to the eastern front, RAF Upper Heyford. Our off base housing was in Stratton Audley which just happened to be right next to the RAF gliding center of Bicester. As I
    walked out the first morning after arriving, I saw ships being winched into the air and thought "That looks interesting!!" As a member of a NATO force I could join the RAF gliding center where flight costs were literally pennies. 60 or so flights in the
    T-21 off the winch with each one being 3, 4 or maybe 5 minutes I got to go solo. Once solo you could upgrade to aero tow and got to fly many different ships, OLY 2b, Oly 419, Gruno Baby, Slingsby Dart and finally the Libelle. Left the UK with 300 hrs a
    silver badge and have been at it ever since. Still married to the same wonderful wife who puts up with my addiction.

    David Martin
    BV

    David…you were lucky in many ways….1st being you were small enough to fit into all the classics. I always wanted to fly the Salto after seeing one on the cover of Soaring. Just a bit too big to fit.

    R

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  • From J6 aka Airport Bum@21:1/5 to Dan Marotta on Tue Feb 7 15:17:36 2023
    Story of my first landout, since you asked.....

    So, it was June 1979, I was flying out of Ephrata, Washington, in the Boeing Employee's Soaring Club (BESC) ratty old 1-26, "Thunder Chicken". I was attempting a 300k FAI Triangle (Ephrata/Waterville/Davenport/return), it would've been the first 300k
    ever done in that 1-26. It was mid-week, with a good soaring forecast, and we took off work and school. My friend and fellow Boeing engineer/club member/partner in my SHK Steve Greene and my then-girlfriend/club member/UofW student and enthusiastic
    glider pilot Karen Bethel were my crew. I took off first, and got out on course early, as you must if flying distance in a 1-26! Steve in the SHK and Karen solo in a club Blanik took off a little later, flying local and monitoring the radio while I
    flew the task.

    It was a great soaring day! Cloudbase 10,000 ft and not much wind. Strong lift, cloud streets lining up nicely with the courselines. Despite my inexperience and the 1-26 glide performance, I was making good time. Bagged the first turnpoint Waterville
    on schedule, but then things got a bit rowdier. Well along the second leg, I was still on schedule to make the task, but then breakfast was revisited. Several times. ALL of breakfast! TRIED to find more breakfast, but it was all gone! You get the
    picture....

    10,000 ft under a great cloud, with clouds lined up nicely towards Davenport, about the middle of a great soaring day, hours of good lift remaining. And I pulled the spoilers, grrrrrrr. If you know Eastern Washington, there are great fields everywhere,
    just pick one near a road and where the crop is fallow and the furrows line up with the wind, a great area for first landout.

    A slight hitch appeared, but I had been well trained for this eventuality: I turned final and then could see that the field sloped off a bit to one side. No problem, just S turn a little and land in a banked turn with the wings parallel to the slope.
    That I did, and it was a good landing. I was proud. Of course, after 5 minutes on the ground, the nausea was gone and I felt great!

    I knew the road number that I landed near (not very many roads in Eastern Washington!), and I knew about how many miles I was along that road out of Waterville. I will just radio my crew, tell them where I am, and they'll come get me.... I'll be back
    at Ephrata, in the shade and drinking a beer soon!

    So I called Karen on the radio, told her I landed out and where I was. Come get me, honey!

    A very assertive radio transmission followed: "Thunder Chicken, I am over the hills at 9000 ft climbing in 6 knots, I will come get you WHEN I AM DONE FLYING."

    Yep, understood, with crystal clarity! Steve in the SHK was wisely silent. Hahahahaha

    They left me baking in the Eastern Washington sun and looking at those beautiful clouds for quite a while.

    At the end-of-season banquet that year, we all recounted our landout stories, and I got a lot of laughs, but Karen got a standing ovation! We who landed out each got a "Knights of the Open Field" award, proudly received. Landouts build character and
    skills!

    I love landout stories, I have a lot of them, and some of them are even TRUE.

    Cheers,
    Jim J6

    On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 4:04:42 PM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
    Great story, Jim! Tell us about that land out in the 1-26.

    Dan
    5J
    On 2/7/23 13:17, J6 aka Airport Bum wrote:
    Very cool video, Oscar! Here's my story:

    So, it was 1966, a hot lazy summer day north of Canton, Ohio, and my 11-year-old self was laying in the grass on big hill in the cow pasture behind our house. Daydreaming and admiring the puffy clouds, you know. Suddenly I noticed a red and white
    long-winged aircraft, circling overhead. Interesting, no engine, a glider! Then it got smaller and smaller, obviously gaining altitude.... Mind blown. How could this be? That evening, I excitedly told my dad about this (he soloed a Cub in the 30's, never
    got his license though). He explained updrafts to me. Wow. He called a few friends, and found out that there was a glider club operating at nearby Martin Field, must be from there.

    The next day I got permission to ride my bike to Martin Field, 3 miles or so, furthest from home I'd ever ridden at that time. Yep, gliders were flying there. The club was "Freedom's Soaring Thunderbirds", now called "Soaring Thunderbirds" and
    currently operating out of Wadsworth Airport, west of Akron. The red and white glider was a K-8. I stayed all day watching, so long that I got in trouble because I got home so late.

    The next weekend my dad took me over there, and they put me in the front seat of a Blanik (along with a load of lead) and I took a ride. Mind blown again.....

    I immediately shifted my interest from slot cars to model airplanes, specifically RC gliders. Built a bunch of 'em. I read every single book on aviation that I could find in the Canton Public Library. I remember one in particular was about gliding
    activity between WW I and WW II, complete with pictures, wish I could remember the name of the book. I would occasionally see a glider in the air, and would ride my bike over to Martin Field to watch them flying.

    One weekend a year or so after my first sighting there was a WHOLE BUNCH of gliders flying - a contest! Amazing variety of gliders, but I was attracted to one in particular, it had a V tail and a beautiful streamlined nose, an SHK or SH-1. I remember
    asking the pilot how it could be controlled with such a strange tail, and he showed and explained to me the mixing function, I was amazed. I am sure that his patient time with me was a seed of my fascination with the stability and control of aircraft,
    which led to my wonderful 35 year career as an aeronautical engineer.

    Haha, 12 or so years after meeting this guy, my first sailplane was - an SHK!

    Anyway, the club moved to a different airport before I was old enough to start training, sigh. But I flew my RC gliders, never got that good at it but had lots of fun, even did some thermal soaring occasionally! And we vacationed on the Outer Banks
    of NC, and I slope soared my RC gliders on Jockey's Ridge there. There I saw hang gliders (1972 or so, don't fly higher than you are willing to fall!) and caught the bug. I ordered a kit from Sky Sports, a LARK (Low Aspect Ratio Kite), a standard Rogallo
    wing, and taught myself to fly it.

    As a freshman at Purdue University's School of Aeronautical Engineering, I found out that a club called the Lafayette Soaring Society was operating east of the campus, I checked it out, they trained in a 2-22, and I joined up. Only took a few flights
    though before I realized that schoolwork and girls (or, at least the efforts trying to meet them...) would not allow me the time (nor did I have the money) to learn to fly sailplanes just then. My instructor for those few flights was an Aerodynamics Grad
    Student named Dan Somers, many of you know him now.

    I reverted back to hang gliding through my college years. Numerous weekend trips to Indian Dunes, Michigan, when I could take time off from schoolwork. Some good flying, maybe more so some good partying on the beach, haha.

    When I graduated in 1977, I got a job at Boeing in Seattle, and finally had the money to learn to fly sailplanes. Joined the Boeing Employee's Soaring Club, and got some GREAT training. British style operation, the core of club was a group of British
    ex-pat aero engineers/glider pilots who came over in the '60's when the British aeronautic industry had some major cutbacks and Boeing was full bore designing the 727 and 737 etc. Passed my check ride 7 months after starting. Gained notoriety in the club
    a year later by attempting a 300k FAI triangle in the club's ratty old 1-26 "Thunder Chicken". This flight ended in my first landout, in a fallow wheat field halfway along the second leg, because of - extreme airsickness! I was high and on schedule, the
    clouds ahead looked great, but I just couldn't handle the dry heaves anymore.... I'll save this landout story for another time, or you can ask me about it, it's a good one! I defeated airsickness finally a few years later, I really had to force myself
    sometimes to stick with it....

    Gave up the hang gliding around 1981, to concentrate on sailplane flying. To this day, I miss the hang gliding, wish I had had the time and energy to do both.

    Over the 46 years since I started, I have had to take a few long breaks from the sport, for career reasons, but I always came back. So I'm only around 2000 hours, but they have all been interesting.... I got all my Diamonds south of the Mason-Dixon
    and east of the Mississippi. My 500k was an FAI triangle out of Peach State Gliderport, there were a half dozen of us flying it that day (separately, not together as a gaggle), the first time any 500k triangles were ever flown in Georgia I believe. Wave
    flight over Mount Mitchell NC for my Diamond climb, took 4 years of trying for me to get that one.... At least 2 dozen off-airport landings (one was in my Mustang II homebuilt airplane, sure glad I had the glider experience, which made this one a whole
    lot less stressful). I realized that my wife was the one for me when she arrived to retrieve me out of a cow pasture - with a big smile on her face, viewing it all as a great adventure! My first contest, Cordele in 1983, I landed out every single day,
    haha (I wasn't the only one!). A fair amount of towing in our club's Pawnee, starting to pay back for the many tows that I have gratefully received. Nowadays I fly a few contests every year, but primarily I fly western mountain expeditions, out of remote
    airfields with my self-launcher, the call of the mountains is very strong for me these days.

    Thanks for this opportunity to share how I got into soaring.

    Cheers,
    Jim J6

    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 7:27:46 AM UTC-6, Glider Pilot wrote:
    Ever wondered what makes a soaring pilot?

    For me it started when I was kid around 11-years old building balsa wood RC gliders. I was thinking it would be cool to return to my roots and build a retro kit today more than four decades later. He is my short video:

    https://youtu.be/0rCN3jGQvyM

    Oscar

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    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)