Winterizing that ship is something many pilots are required to do because of the winter weather and lack of flying. Mice are always a problem in many areas of the country and there is never a more inviting place to raise a family than the glider trailer
of glider itself. Yes, those nasty little critters will eat insulation and wire along with interior. Some people use rat or mice poison and it works but when the mice or rat dies in the trailer or cockpit it sure can create a nasty smell and mess.
I have a couple of trailers stored in the hangar and yes, we have had a mice problem in the past, but I have found the solution that requires no poison. Try going to the market and buying a few bars of Irish Spring original scent bars of soap and place
them in the trailer or cockpit, the rats and mice hate the smell of that stuff and will not come within 20 feet of the soap. Since trying this I have yet to see any trace of a rodent in my trailers. Old Bob, The Purist

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On 12/15/2022 4:27 AM, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

Winterizing that ship is something many pilots are required to do because of the winter weather and lack of flying. Mice are always a problem in many areas of the country and there is never a more inviting place to raise a family than the glider

trailer of glider itself. Yes, those nasty little critters will eat insulation and wire along with interior. Some people use rat or mice poison and it works but when the mice or rat dies in the trailer or cockpit it sure can create a nasty smell and mess.

I have a couple of trailers stored in the hangar and yes, we have had a mice problem in the past, but I have found the solution that requires no poison. Try going to the market and buying a few bars of Irish Spring original scent bars of soap and place

them in the trailer or cockpit, the rats and mice hate the smell of that stuff and will not come within 20 feet of the soap. Since trying this I have yet to see any trace of a rodent in my trailers. Old Bob, The Purist

The RV group I monitor has folks that say Irish Springs soap keeps the mice out of their
motorhome, and folks that say the mice like to nibble on it. There are many other methods
with the same results, from moth balls, flashing LED lights, softener sheets for dryers,
cats, etc. But, if the soap fails for you, you got options!

The one thing that seems to work for everyone is to plug every opening so the mice can't
get in. I did that for my motorhome by turning on the interior lights at night, and
looking at the outside (and underneath) of the motorhome for light leaks, then plugging
the openings with expanding foam or steel wool.

Another method that might be as good, according to the RV folks that use it, is metal
shields around the tires, about as high as the axle. This method also protects the wiring
in the engine compartment, but that's not a trailer issue.
--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

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So, how do you keep the hot chicks away (remembering the TV commercials)?

Dan
5J

On 12/15/22 05:27, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

Winterizing that ship is something many pilots are required to do because of the winter weather and lack of flying. Mice are always a problem in many areas of the country and there is never a more inviting place to raise a family than the glider

trailer of glider itself. Yes, those nasty little critters will eat insulation and wire along with interior. Some people use rat or mice poison and it works but when the mice or rat dies in the trailer or cockpit it sure can create a nasty smell and mess.

I have a couple of trailers stored in the hangar and yes, we have had a mice problem in the past, but I have found the solution that requires no poison. Try going to the market and buying a few bars of Irish Spring original scent bars of soap and place

them in the trailer or cockpit, the rats and mice hate the smell of that stuff and will not come within 20 feet of the soap. Since trying this I have yet to see any trace of a rodent in my trailers. Old Bob, The Purist

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On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 10:40:52 AM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:

So, how do you keep the hot chicks away (remembering the TV commercials)?

Dan
5J

Put on your bucket hat.

Steve Leonard

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Marry one.

If that strategy fails, I will follow the advice to take the hot chick to gliderport for
weekend, and the problem will resolve itself.

On 12/15/2022 8:40 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:

So, how do you keep the hot chicks away (remembering the TV commercials)?

Dan
5J

On 12/15/22 05:27, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

Winterizing that ship is something many pilots are required to do because of the winter
weather and lack of flying. Mice are always a problem in many areas of the country and
there is never a more inviting place to raise a family than the glider trailer of glider
itself. Yes, those nasty little critters will eat insulation and wire along with
interior. Some people use rat or mice poison and it works but when the mice or rat dies
in the trailer or cockpit it sure can create a nasty smell and mess.
I have a couple of trailers stored in the hangar and yes, we have had a mice problem in
the past, but I have found the solution that requires no poison. Try going to the market
and buying a few bars of Irish Spring original scent bars of soap and place them in the
trailer or cockpit, the rats and mice hate the smell of that stuff and will not come
within 20 feet of the soap. Since trying this I have yet to see any trace of a rodent in
my trailers. Old Bob, The Purist

--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

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Laughed out loud!

On 12/15/2022 10:48 AM, Steve Leonard wrote:

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 10:40:52 AM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:

So, how do you keep the hot chicks away (remembering the TV commercials)?

Dan
5J

Put on your bucket hat.

Steve Leonard

--
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On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 11:43:43 AM UTC-6, JC wrote:

Laughed out loud!
On 12/15/2022 10:48 AM, Steve Leonard wrote:

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 10:40:52 AM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:

So, how do you keep the hot chicks away (remembering the TV commercials)? >>
Dan
5J

Put on your bucket hat.

Steve Leonard

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I dunno, I remember Ginger & MaryAnn all over Gilligan at various times...oh, wait, that was on a killer landout & retrieve😋

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On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 3:12:57 PM UTC-5, sgs...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 11:43:43 AM UTC-6, JC wrote:

Laughed out loud!
On 12/15/2022 10:48 AM, Steve Leonard wrote:

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 10:40:52 AM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:

So, how do you keep the hot chicks away (remembering the TV commercials)?

Dan
5J

Put on your bucket hat.

Steve Leonard

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I dunno, I remember Ginger & MaryAnn all over Gilligan at various times...oh, wait, that was on a killer landout & retrieve😋

Look, don't want to upset the ladies again, but hot chicks like gliders, A couple of our members mothers would certainly confirm that observation. Old Bob, The Perverted Purist

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On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 12:28:22 PM UTC-5, Eric Greenwell wrote:

Marry one.

If that strategy fails, I will follow the advice to take the hot chick to gliderport for
weekend, and the problem will resolve itself.
On 12/15/2022 8:40 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:

So, how do you keep the hot chicks away (remembering the TV commercials)?

Dan
5J

On 12/15/22 05:27, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

Winterizing that ship is something many pilots are required to do because of the winter
weather and lack of flying. Mice are always a problem in many areas of the country and
there is never a more inviting place to raise a family than the glider trailer of glider
itself. Yes, those nasty little critters will eat insulation and wire along with
interior. Some people use rat or mice poison and it works but when the mice or rat dies
in the trailer or cockpit it sure can create a nasty smell and mess.
I have a couple of trailers stored in the hangar and yes, we have had a mice problem in
the past, but I have found the solution that requires no poison. Try going to the market
and buying a few bars of Irish Spring original scent bars of soap and place them in the
trailer or cockpit, the rats and mice hate the smell of that stuff and will not come
within 20 feet of the soap. Since trying this I have yet to see any trace of a rodent in
my trailers. Old Bob, The Purist

--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

Eric, take my gliderport lessons and put them to practice. You guys in the north have no idea as to what a hot chick at the gliderport looks like. If you think Bo Derek was a 10 then you should come on down to TCSC and observe the talent on any given
weekend. Recently we have had a few outstanding examples of what we call on the spectrum of hot vs crazy spectrum. I promise you that a few of our outstanding candidates would make a gay guy go straight. Now I am just an old tow plane pilot, but I do
keep a score sheet in the cockpit and evaluate every potential candidate.

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On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 1:32:01 PM UTC-8, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 12:28:22 PM UTC-5, Eric Greenwell wrote:

Marry one.

If that strategy fails, I will follow the advice to take the hot chick to gliderport for
weekend, and the problem will resolve itself.
On 12/15/2022 8:40 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:

So, how do you keep the hot chicks away (remembering the TV commercials)?

Dan
5J

On 12/15/22 05:27, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

Winterizing that ship is something many pilots are required to do because of the winter
weather and lack of flying. Mice are always a problem in many areas of the country and
there is never a more inviting place to raise a family than the glider trailer of glider
itself. Yes, those nasty little critters will eat insulation and wire along with
interior. Some people use rat or mice poison and it works but when the mice or rat dies
in the trailer or cockpit it sure can create a nasty smell and mess.
I have a couple of trailers stored in the hangar and yes, we have had a mice problem in
the past, but I have found the solution that requires no poison. Try going to the market
and buying a few bars of Irish Spring original scent bars of soap and place them in the
trailer or cockpit, the rats and mice hate the smell of that stuff and will not come
within 20 feet of the soap. Since trying this I have yet to see any trace of a rodent in
my trailers. Old Bob, The Purist

--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

Eric, take my gliderport lessons and put them to practice. You guys in the north have no idea as to what a hot chick at the gliderport looks like. If you think Bo Derek was a 10 then you should come on down to TCSC and observe the talent on any given

weekend. Recently we have had a few outstanding examples of what we call on the spectrum of hot vs crazy spectrum. I promise you that a few of our outstanding candidates would make a gay guy go straight. Now I am just an old tow plane pilot, but I do
keep a score sheet in the cockpit and evaluate every potential candidate.

Boy, has this thread ever declined into debauchery!

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On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 6:02:37 PM UTC-8, 2G wrote:

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 1:32:01 PM UTC-8, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 12:28:22 PM UTC-5, Eric Greenwell wrote:

Marry one.

If that strategy fails, I will follow the advice to take the hot chick to gliderport for
weekend, and the problem will resolve itself.
On 12/15/2022 8:40 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:

So, how do you keep the hot chicks away (remembering the TV commercials)?

Dan
5J

On 12/15/22 05:27, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

Winterizing that ship is something many pilots are required to do because of the winter
weather and lack of flying. Mice are always a problem in many areas of the country and
there is never a more inviting place to raise a family than the glider trailer of glider
itself. Yes, those nasty little critters will eat insulation and wire along with
interior. Some people use rat or mice poison and it works but when the mice or rat dies
in the trailer or cockpit it sure can create a nasty smell and mess. >> I have a couple of trailers stored in the hangar and yes, we have had a mice problem in
the past, but I have found the solution that requires no poison. Try going to the market
and buying a few bars of Irish Spring original scent bars of soap and place them in the
trailer or cockpit, the rats and mice hate the smell of that stuff and will not come
within 20 feet of the soap. Since trying this I have yet to see any trace of a rodent in
my trailers. Old Bob, The Purist

--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

Eric, take my gliderport lessons and put them to practice. You guys in the north have no idea as to what a hot chick at the gliderport looks like. If you think Bo Derek was a 10 then you should come on down to TCSC and observe the talent on any given

weekend. Recently we have had a few outstanding examples of what we call on the spectrum of hot vs crazy spectrum. I promise you that a few of our outstanding candidates would make a gay guy go straight. Now I am just an old tow plane pilot, but I do
keep a score sheet in the cockpit and evaluate every potential candidate.

Boy, has this thread ever declined into debauchery!

From rodents to hot chicks, you guys must be bored. Hmmm....

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On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 5:42:32 PM UTC-5, 6PK wrote:

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 6:02:37 PM UTC-8, 2G wrote:

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 1:32:01 PM UTC-8, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 12:28:22 PM UTC-5, Eric Greenwell wrote:

Marry one.

If that strategy fails, I will follow the advice to take the hot chick to gliderport for
weekend, and the problem will resolve itself.
On 12/15/2022 8:40 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:

So, how do you keep the hot chicks away (remembering the TV commercials)?

Dan
5J

On 12/15/22 05:27, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

Winterizing that ship is something many pilots are required to do because of the winter
weather and lack of flying. Mice are always a problem in many areas of the country and
there is never a more inviting place to raise a family than the glider trailer of glider
itself. Yes, those nasty little critters will eat insulation and wire along with
interior. Some people use rat or mice poison and it works but when the mice or rat dies
in the trailer or cockpit it sure can create a nasty smell and mess.
I have a couple of trailers stored in the hangar and yes, we have had a mice problem in
the past, but I have found the solution that requires no poison. Try going to the market
and buying a few bars of Irish Spring original scent bars of soap and place them in the
trailer or cockpit, the rats and mice hate the smell of that stuff and will not come
within 20 feet of the soap. Since trying this I have yet to see any trace of a rodent in
my trailers. Old Bob, The Purist

--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

Eric, take my gliderport lessons and put them to practice. You guys in the north have no idea as to what a hot chick at the gliderport looks like. If you think Bo Derek was a 10 then you should come on down to TCSC and observe the talent on any

given weekend. Recently we have had a few outstanding examples of what we call on the spectrum of hot vs crazy spectrum. I promise you that a few of our outstanding candidates would make a gay guy go straight. Now I am just an old tow plane pilot, but I
do keep a score sheet in the cockpit and evaluate every potential candidate.

Boy, has this thread ever declined into debauchery!

From rodents to hot chicks, you guys must be bored. Hmmm....

Not really, just tired of the charging battery encyclopedia! i I cannot believe some of this so-called professional advice. Old Bob, The Purist

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On 12/16/2022 6:29 PM, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 5:42:32 PM UTC-5, 6PK wrote:

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 6:02:37 PM UTC-8, 2G wrote:

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 1:32:01 PM UTC-8, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote...
Boy, has this thread ever declined into debauchery!

From rodents to hot chicks, you guys must be bored. Hmmm....

Not really, just tired of the charging battery encyclopedia! i I cannot believe some of this so-called professional advice. Old Bob, The Purist

Well, believe at least most of it: I'm an electrical engineer, 2G is an electrical
engineer, Jon - not sure about Jon, but he looks like one, acts like one, got the
instruments, and talks like one, so maybe he is one?

--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

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On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 11:22:34 PM UTC-5, Eric Greenwell wrote:

On 12/16/2022 6:29 PM, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 5:42:32 PM UTC-5, 6PK wrote:

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 6:02:37 PM UTC-8, 2G wrote:

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 1:32:01 PM UTC-8, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote...
Boy, has this thread ever declined into debauchery!

From rodents to hot chicks, you guys must be bored. Hmmm....

Not really, just tired of the charging battery encyclopedia! i I cannot believe some of this so-called professional advice. Old Bob, The Purist

Well, believe at least most of it: I'm an electrical engineer, 2G is an electrical
engineer, Jon - not sure about Jon, but he looks like one, acts like one, got the
instruments, and talks like one, so maybe he is one?
--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

I do understand your type of guys, my son is a structural PE, I listen to how we should do things all the time, always a boring conversation. Old Bob, The Purist

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On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 7:12:22 AM UTC-5, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 11:22:34 PM UTC-5, Eric Greenwell wrote:

On 12/16/2022 6:29 PM, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 5:42:32 PM UTC-5, 6PK wrote:

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 6:02:37 PM UTC-8, 2G wrote:

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 1:32:01 PM UTC-8, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote...
Boy, has this thread ever declined into debauchery!

From rodents to hot chicks, you guys must be bored. Hmmm....

Not really, just tired of the charging battery encyclopedia! i I cannot believe some of this so-called professional advice. Old Bob, The Purist

Well, believe at least most of it: I'm an electrical engineer, 2G is an electrical
engineer, Jon - not sure about Jon, but he looks like one, acts like one, got the
instruments, and talks like one, so maybe he is one?
--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

I do understand your type of guys, my son is a structural PE, I listen to how we should do things all the time, always a boring conversation. Old Bob, The Purist

As my ME friends say, "PE's design targets, ME's blow them up".

Back to mice, they can fit through a hole about a dime diameter, just big enough to get their head through.
My issue with mothballs in a trailer is the lingering smell in the glider. Also mind what you put mothballs on, they sorta melt with time and can stain whatever they sit on.
Keeping food out of the glider and trailer is good, as is removing rags, cushions, etc. as these become attractants. They don't seem to attack the felt on various taildollies, wing saddles, etc.

Dad joke...
Have you ever smelled mothballs?
If so, what did you do, spread its wings?

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On 12/17/2022 5:34 AM, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 7:12:22 AM UTC-5, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 11:22:34 PM UTC-5, Eric Greenwell wrote:

On 12/16/2022 6:29 PM, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 5:42:32 PM UTC-5, 6PK wrote:

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 6:02:37 PM UTC-8, 2G wrote:

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 1:32:01 PM UTC-8, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote...
Boy, has this thread ever declined into debauchery!

From rodents to hot chicks, you guys must be bored. Hmmm....

Not really, just tired of the charging battery encyclopedia! i I cannot believe some of this so-called professional advice. Old Bob, The Purist

Well, believe at least most of it: I'm an electrical engineer, 2G is an electrical
engineer, Jon - not sure about Jon, but he looks like one, acts like one, got the
instruments, and talks like one, so maybe he is one?
--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

I do understand your type of guys, my son is a structural PE, I listen to how we should do things all the time, always a boring conversation. Old Bob, The Purist

As my ME friends say, "PE's design targets, ME's blow them up".

Back to mice, they can fit through a hole about a dime diameter, just big enough to get their head through.
My issue with mothballs in a trailer is the lingering smell in the glider. Also mind what you put mothballs on, they sorta melt with time and can stain whatever they sit on.
Keeping food out of the glider and trailer is good, as is removing rags, cushions, etc. as these become attractants. They don't seem to attack the felt on various taildollies, wing saddles, etc.

Dad joke...
Have you ever smelled mothballs?
If so, what did you do, spread its wings?

THe mothballs might have been recommended for the engine compartment of the motorhome.
It's the wire harness chewing that really burns people's butts, as it often disables the
motorhome, and can cost thousands to repair in severe cases. Not a real issue for
trailers, though.

I think a trailer should be easy to defend -at Cobra trailers- given the very small number
of holes in the bottom of the trailer, and essentially none in the top.

--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

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On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 10:40:31 AM UTC-6, Eric Greenwell wrote:

On 12/17/2022 5:34 AM, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 7:12:22 AM UTC-5, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 11:22:34 PM UTC-5, Eric Greenwell wrote: >>> On 12/16/2022 6:29 PM, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 5:42:32 PM UTC-5, 6PK wrote:

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 6:02:37 PM UTC-8, 2G wrote:

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 1:32:01 PM UTC-8, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote...
Boy, has this thread ever declined into debauchery!

From rodents to hot chicks, you guys must be bored. Hmmm....

Not really, just tired of the charging battery encyclopedia! i I cannot believe some of this so-called professional advice. Old Bob, The Purist

Well, believe at least most of it: I'm an electrical engineer, 2G is an electrical
engineer, Jon - not sure about Jon, but he looks like one, acts like one, got the
instruments, and talks like one, so maybe he is one?
--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

I do understand your type of guys, my son is a structural PE, I listen to how we should do things all the time, always a boring conversation. Old Bob, The Purist

As my ME friends say, "PE's design targets, ME's blow them up".

Back to mice, they can fit through a hole about a dime diameter, just big enough to get their head through.
My issue with mothballs in a trailer is the lingering smell in the glider. Also mind what you put mothballs on, they sorta melt with time and can stain whatever they sit on.
Keeping food out of the glider and trailer is good, as is removing rags, cushions, etc. as these become attractants. They don't seem to attack the felt on various taildollies, wing saddles, etc.

Dad joke...
Have you ever smelled mothballs?
If so, what did you do, spread its wings?

THe mothballs might have been recommended for the engine compartment of the motorhome.
It's the wire harness chewing that really burns people's butts, as it often disables the
motorhome, and can cost thousands to repair in severe cases. Not a real issue for
trailers, though.

I think a trailer should be easy to defend -at Cobra trailers- given the very small number
of holes in the bottom of the trailer, and essentially none in the top.
--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

I have a coupla stick gadgets that make hi freq noise, run by C batteries. Can't vouch for them but suggested by my friendsr at Air Sailing. FOB X52.

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On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 3:34:00 PM UTC-6, Tony wrote:

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 10:40:31 AM UTC-6, Eric Greenwell wrote:

On 12/17/2022 5:34 AM, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 7:12:22 AM UTC-5, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 11:22:34 PM UTC-5, Eric Greenwell wrote: >>> On 12/16/2022 6:29 PM, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 5:42:32 PM UTC-5, 6PK wrote:

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 6:02:37 PM UTC-8, 2G wrote:

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 1:32:01 PM UTC-8, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote...
Boy, has this thread ever declined into debauchery!

From rodents to hot chicks, you guys must be bored. Hmmm....

Not really, just tired of the charging battery encyclopedia! i I cannot believe some of this so-called professional advice. Old Bob, The Purist

Well, believe at least most of it: I'm an electrical engineer, 2G is an electrical
engineer, Jon - not sure about Jon, but he looks like one, acts like one, got the
instruments, and talks like one, so maybe he is one?
--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

I do understand your type of guys, my son is a structural PE, I listen to how we should do things all the time, always a boring conversation. Old Bob, The Purist

As my ME friends say, "PE's design targets, ME's blow them up".

Back to mice, they can fit through a hole about a dime diameter, just big enough to get their head through.
My issue with mothballs in a trailer is the lingering smell in the glider. Also mind what you put mothballs on, they sorta melt with time and can stain whatever they sit on.
Keeping food out of the glider and trailer is good, as is removing rags, cushions, etc. as these become attractants. They don't seem to attack the felt on various taildollies, wing saddles, etc.

Dad joke...
Have you ever smelled mothballs?
If so, what did you do, spread its wings?

THe mothballs might have been recommended for the engine compartment of the motorhome.
It's the wire harness chewing that really burns people's butts, as it often disables the
motorhome, and can cost thousands to repair in severe cases. Not a real issue for
trailers, though.

I think a trailer should be easy to defend -at Cobra trailers- given the very small number
of holes in the bottom of the trailer, and essentially none in the top.
--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

I have a coupla stick gadgets that make hi freq noise, run by C batteries. Can't vouch for them but suggested by my friendsr at Air Sailing. FOB X52.

By the way I do NOT recommend the tyre covers for the trailer or motor home, at least in temperate climes - they make the most awesome mousie housies!

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On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 4:34:00 PM UTC-5, sgs...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 10:40:31 AM UTC-6, Eric Greenwell wrote:

On 12/17/2022 5:34 AM, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 7:12:22 AM UTC-5, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 11:22:34 PM UTC-5, Eric Greenwell wrote:

On 12/16/2022 6:29 PM, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 5:42:32 PM UTC-5, 6PK wrote:

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 6:02:37 PM UTC-8, 2G wrote:

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 1:32:01 PM UTC-8, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote...
Boy, has this thread ever declined into debauchery!

From rodents to hot chicks, you guys must be bored. Hmmm....

Not really, just tired of the charging battery encyclopedia! i I cannot believe some of this so-called professional advice. Old Bob, The Purist

Well, believe at least most of it: I'm an electrical engineer, 2G is an electrical
engineer, Jon - not sure about Jon, but he looks like one, acts like one, got the
instruments, and talks like one, so maybe he is one?
--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

I do understand your type of guys, my son is a structural PE, I listen to how we should do things all the time, always a boring conversation. Old Bob, The Purist

As my ME friends say, "PE's design targets, ME's blow them up".

Back to mice, they can fit through a hole about a dime diameter, just big enough to get their head through.
My issue with mothballs in a trailer is the lingering smell in the glider. Also mind what you put mothballs on, they sorta melt with time and can stain whatever they sit on.
Keeping food out of the glider and trailer is good, as is removing rags, cushions, etc. as these become attractants. They don't seem to attack the felt on various taildollies, wing saddles, etc.

Dad joke...
Have you ever smelled mothballs?
If so, what did you do, spread its wings?

THe mothballs might have been recommended for the engine compartment of the motorhome.
It's the wire harness chewing that really burns people's butts, as it often disables the
motorhome, and can cost thousands to repair in severe cases. Not a real issue for
trailers, though.

I think a trailer should be easy to defend -at Cobra trailers- given the very small number
of holes in the bottom of the trailer, and essentially none in the top.
--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

I have a coupla stick gadgets that make hi freq noise, run by C batteries. Can't vouch for them but suggested by my friendsr at Air Sailing. FOB X52.

I have these mouse and rat traps that electrocute the victims when they go inside to get the peanut butter, the only problem is that the traps must be checked daily or there will be a nasty smell similar to a motorglider when the victims starts to decay.
These must have been the invention of an EE, a structural PE would have just crushed them with some type of dynamic load.
I have used these high pitch electronic devises to no avail, the mouse electric chair which is akin to Old Sparky here in Florida is the way to go, it certainly took care of Bundy, so mouse and rats are no problem. OBTP

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On Sat, 17 Dec 2022 08:40:25 -0800, Eric Greenwell
<owner@thegreenwells.netto> wrote:

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I think a trailer should be easy to defend -at Cobra trailers- given the very small number
of holes in the bottom of the trailer, and essentially none in the top.

--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

One potential issue with older Cobra trailers (and perhaps newer ones
as well) is the open mouse path between the tow hitch ball receiver
and the aft end of the drawtube inside the trailer. At least in older
trailers (mine is 1987 vintage), this tube provides a clear entry path
from the outside to inside the trailer.

It is relatively simple to seal the inner end of the drawtube with
metal mesh, expanding foam, or both, to seal this ingress point.

Bob

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On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 8:17:21 PM UTC-8, Bob Gibbons wrote:

On Sat, 17 Dec 2022 08:40:25 -0800, Eric Greenwell <ow...@thegreenwells.netto> wrote:

... text deletd

I think a trailer should be easy to defend -at Cobra trailers- given the very small number
of holes in the bottom of the trailer, and essentially none in the top.

--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

One potential issue with older Cobra trailers (and perhaps newer ones
as well) is the open mouse path between the tow hitch ball receiver
and the aft end of the drawtube inside the trailer. At least in older trailers (mine is 1987 vintage), this tube provides a clear entry path
from the outside to inside the trailer.

It is relatively simple to seal the inner end of the drawtube with
metal mesh, expanding foam, or both, to seal this ingress point.

Bob

--
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com

I recommend the rolling log mouse trap. It doesn't need resetting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qk8W5uf-Dw

Tom

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Gee... I feel so much safer knowing that youtube (google) protects me
from seeing a mouse fall off a stick into a *dry* bucket; or protects me
from seeing a beer or wine bottle or cigarette. Do they think I can't
figure out what's behind that fuzz ball?

Hey, maybe google RAS prime will automatically protect us from the likes
of the Crazy Canadian.............

Dan
5J

On 12/17/22 23:06, 2G wrote:

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 8:17:21 PM UTC-8, Bob Gibbons wrote:

On Sat, 17 Dec 2022 08:40:25 -0800, Eric Greenwell
<ow...@thegreenwells.netto> wrote:

... text deletd

I think a trailer should be easy to defend -at Cobra trailers- given the very small number
of holes in the bottom of the trailer, and essentially none in the top.

--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

One potential issue with older Cobra trailers (and perhaps newer ones
as well) is the open mouse path between the tow hitch ball receiver
and the aft end of the drawtube inside the trailer. At least in older
trailers (mine is 1987 vintage), this tube provides a clear entry path
from the outside to inside the trailer.

It is relatively simple to seal the inner end of the drawtube with
metal mesh, expanding foam, or both, to seal this ingress point.

Bob

--
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software.
www.avg.com

I recommend the rolling log mouse trap. It doesn't need resetting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qk8W5uf-Dw

Tom

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On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 9:49:45 AM UTC-8, Dan Marotta wrote:

Gee... I feel so much safer knowing that youtube (google) protects me
from seeing a mouse fall off a stick into a *dry* bucket; or protects me
from seeing a beer or wine bottle or cigarette. Do they think I can't
figure out what's behind that fuzz ball?

What you may also be protected from is the cannibalism that occurs among these mice caught live in a trap.

Hey, maybe google RAS prime will automatically protect us from the likes
of the Crazy Canadian.............

Dan
5J
On 12/17/22 23:06, 2G wrote:

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 8:17:21 PM UTC-8, Bob Gibbons wrote:

On Sat, 17 Dec 2022 08:40:25 -0800, Eric Greenwell
<ow...@thegreenwells.netto> wrote:

... text deletd

I think a trailer should be easy to defend -at Cobra trailers- given the very small number
of holes in the bottom of the trailer, and essentially none in the top. >>>
--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

One potential issue with older Cobra trailers (and perhaps newer ones
as well) is the open mouse path between the tow hitch ball receiver
and the aft end of the drawtube inside the trailer. At least in older
trailers (mine is 1987 vintage), this tube provides a clear entry path
from the outside to inside the trailer.

It is relatively simple to seal the inner end of the drawtube with
metal mesh, expanding foam, or both, to seal this ingress point.

Bob

--
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software.
www.avg.com

I recommend the rolling log mouse trap. It doesn't need resetting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qk8W5uf-Dw

Tom

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I've seen a lot worse and can still sleep at night.

Dan
5J

On 12/19/22 00:32, 2G wrote:

What you may also be protected from is the cannibalism that occurs among these mice caught live in a trap.

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